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Trump's Middle East PeacePlan is coming soon.
Will it include a New State Solution?
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This spring, PresidentTrump plans to announce
his long awaited Middle East Peace Plan.
He's being tight-lipped about it.
Already some are saying theplan will be dead on arrival.
Trump has worked hard tobring Gulf state Arabs
into the peace process,
and now another plan brings in Egypt.
It's an idea calledthe New State Solution,
which focuses on aPalestinian state in Gaza
and parts of the Sinai.
Here to explain more from Washington, D.C.
Is Yaakov Peri.
He's the former head of Israel'sShin Bet Security Service
and former Minister ofScience and Technology.
Welcome, Mr. Peri.
- Thank you, Gary,thank you for having us.
- So tell us, what is the NewState Solution Initiative?
- Well after more than 50 years
all the negotiations betweenIsrael and Palestinians failed.
Put the blame on Israel orput the blame on Palestinians,
doesn't matter, there is no solution,
and we have to have two of the solution
which separates thePalestinians from Israel.
We are coming with a new idea,the New State Solution idea,
which says that Egypt will lease
10% of the Sinai Desert.
Egypt is holding 60,000square kilometers of Sinai,
and will annex it as alease to the Gaza Strip,
and will build, or help to build
the new independentPalestinian state there.
It gives the Palestiniansa lot of benefits,
like a new, own state.
We are not dealing anymorewith the right of return.
It gives Egypt a big economical power,
a guarantee for security, and of course,
a status which Egypt is seeking,
to be a hegemony in the Middle East.
There are also questionsthat are unanswered,
but the humanitariansituation nowadays in Gaza
needs quite a
immediate solution.
- Well, the Trump administrationis kinda tight-lipped
about it's soon to be released
peace plan for the Middle East
and some are already sayingit's dead on arrival.
What do you think is in it?
Is it dead on arrival?
- Well, nobody knows reallywhat are the details.
The rumor are claiming that it's based
on the Clinton plan,
and if it's more of the same
of Clinton plans, itwill probably not work,
mainly from the Palestinian side.
But we'll have to see and wait
to see what's coming on.
The New State Solution
is a solution that can work.
It depends of course, with the Egyptians,
the Palestinians, the Israelis,
and the moderate Arab big states,
and all those that I mentioned
are partners to this idea.
- Well, I was going to ask you,
is el-Sisi behind this in Egypt,
and will the plan likelyinclude some of the ideas
of New State, Trump's plan?
- Well, I hope so, and as far as we know,
we have began some discussions
with people who are
close to the Egyptian authorities,
and it seems to be hopeful
because Sisi is quite involved
in what's going on in Gazaand in the Palestinian issue,
and to lease 60,000 square meter
is not something that
probably Sisi will object.
- Well, he's been receivinga lot of terrorism
from the Sinai, so I'm surehe would prefer to see this,
and it seems President Trump wants to use
economic development and investment
in the Palestinian territories,
of course, with the helpof wealthy Gulf states,
as an incentive for a peace deal,
so what are your thoughts on that,
and could that also apply to the Sinai?
- No doubt, no doubt.
The biggest Arab moderate states
are sharing two interests with Israel,
the anti-Iranian one
and the fight against the radical Islam.
Economical projects in the West Bank
and mainly in the Gaza Strip,
are going to be part,or a very important part
of the solution, yes.
The answer is positive.
- Well, and I don't wantto be pessimistic here,
but how do you negotiate peace
with a divided Palestinian leadership?
You have Hamas in Gaza,Fatah in the West Bank.
Neither seem willing to negotiate.
- You're absolutely right.
What's going on inside the Palestinian
population, the society,is quite complicated,
but I think that if we will come
with a New State Solution idea,
which is something very creative,
doable, we can roll it on.
We still have some partnersin the Palestinian side,
and I am sure that it will gain a majority
of the Israeli public,so we have to start,
because the humanitariansituation in the Gaza Strip
is on the edge of a humanitarian crisis,
and the sooner the better.
- And finally, as you know,
many evangelical Christianshere in the United States,
big supporters of Israel,
and a lot of them don'tsupport a two state solution,
so what would you liketo see our viewers do?
What can they do about this, if anything?
- I would urge them tosupport the two state solution
because a separation between Israel
and the Palestinians is a must,
is a Israeli interest anda Palestinian interest,
and the Sinai Desert
is a very, very creative idea
which can work.
Of course, we have questions still left
about the West Bank and about Jerusalem
and we'll have to solve it,
but those who are supporting the existence
and the survival of the State of Israel
should heavily supportthis New State Solution,
which you can, of course,
find more details in theNewStateSolution.org.
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- A new Wall StreetJournal NBC News poll finds
that a growing number of Americans
view the Democratic party asbeing out of the mainstream
on the issue of abortion.
In 2015, just four years ago,
only 34% of those polledthought the Democrat position
was out of the mainstream,but the new poll finds
the percentage has grown to 41%,
a 7% jump in four years.
However, 51% of those polledstill believe Democrats
are in the mainstream intheir view of abortion.
Well, joining us to discussthis social issue and more
is Florida StateRepresentative Kim Daniels.
She's a Democrat fromJacksonville, Florida.
Kim, thank you for being with us.
- Thank you for having me here.
- So what do you think ofthese poll numbers and results?
Is your party out of the mainstream
or is it still in themainstream on abortion?
- Well, I believe that thepolls are pretty much correct
because of the recentactivities that have taken place
with the laws that have passed,
and a lot of times what goes on
in the upper echelons of the party
doesn't represent whatthe actual people feel,
and in my community,
we don't believe in abortion on demand.
- What's happening in Florida?
- Well, in Florida, we do have a bill
that's coming up beforethe legislature that,
it's called the HeartbeatBill, and it actually
declares that a baby isnot just a lump of flesh,
or a fetus, but that's anactual live human being.
- [Gary] So what do youthink's gonna happen with that?
Is there a chance of it getting passed?
- [Kim] I think it will pass.
I believe it will pass.
- [Gary] I know your Governorwould sign it, wouldn't he?
- Absolutely, we have a Governorthat would support that,
and I think that with the boldness
of what happened in New York,
those who sat back andwouldn't say anything,
they're speaking out now because
I believe that if theywant to commit infanticide,
or kill babies, and Imean, after they're born
and in the late stages of pregnancy,
then in Florida, we needto do something now,
because a little leavenleavens the whole lump,
little foxes spoil the vine,
and if you let these little things go by,
sooner or later we'llbe to where New York is.
- Do you mind if we shift alittle bit to race relations?
I'd like to talk a little bit about
race relations in the U.S.- Okay, let's talk about it.
- Now, I'm someone who asa child, just pre-teen,
in the mid to late '60s,in Flint, Michigan,
marched in a Civil Rights movement,
and I personally thinkthat we've come a long way
in race from those days.
Now, I'm looking at it obviously
from the perspective of a white man.
What don't whites get about it?
Have we come a long way?
Where are we at right now?
- Well, we've come a long way,
but I think we can--
It's not about the race, it's about
categorizing racism on one side.
Racism is still an issue,
but it's not just Republican racists.
We've got people Democraticracists, Republican racists.
- [Gary] Is your party speaking out enough
against racism in its party?
- Well, they're speakingout against racism,
but not in this party because I personally
had to deal with a letterthat came to my office,
where one of the head guysin the Democratic party
was sitting in a meetingcalling black people colored,
and saying that integration,
he used, while I don'tknow what, the F word,
messed everything up,and it was pretty bold,
and there were Democrats who hid that
because of political reasons,and I was the one who
did a letter to demand that he be removed
because that kind of language and that,
it shouldn't be tolerated.
- Did anybody join you in that?
In your party?- No.
But he still was removed.
No, as a matter of fact, they didn't,
so it's not about racism,it's about agenda.
Racism is real, just this week,
I was in a department store shopping,
you know, a big department store,
and I went to the bathroom,and I had a dress on,
and a woman came up tome and grabbed the tag
and said, "Did you pay for this dress?"
- Oh, boy.- So, and then when I got out,
it was a big store, andwhen I was in my car,
and I was sitting theretexting, I'm trying to GPS,
and I looked up, I wassurrounded by the police.
And I was like, areyou all surrounding me?
They were like, oh, theysaid your car was suspicious.
I had a brand new car,
so profiling, I have 21 year old boys
who go to college in thesame city that I work in,
and we have to have codes,
and when the Governor had his ball,
I had my gown on, I had to run
because my sons gave me a code.
They were surrounded by the police.
So there is a lot of profilingand things that really--
- [Gary] How do we getaway from that, Kim?
- [Kim] We need to be real,
and deal with what the real issue is.
It's not a Democratic issue,
it's not a Republican issue.
- [Gary] It's a heart issue, is it not?
- [Kim] It's a heart issue,and it's an environmental--
We've created an environment
where in the black community,leaders not the people,
if they can't deal with something,
then they start callingpeople racists or sell-outs,
or whatever, and that's notgonna handle the problem.
People are dying, youngmen, I'm burying them.
My sons' friends are dying.
- A lot of negative stuffin our society today,
but there's a lot of positive.
And I know that God changed you.
- Although I was the fastestfemale sprinter in the nation
in junior college, went to Florida State.
I was on the fastest relay team in America
at Florida State, all three of the girls
on that trike team went to the Olympics,
on that relay team.
I went to the streets.
I became a crack addict, a drug addict,
a woman on the streets, and right now,
I sit a few blocks from the same place
that I used to smoke dope, wave down cars,
and do everything ungodly thatyou're not supposed to do,
and I'm a member of theHouse of Representatives.
So I represent hope.
Jesus rescued me from that life.
You know, he taught mea better way in life,
and I serve a real God who brought me out,
so those who don't like it,they'll have to get over it,
because I ain't going nowhere.
The point is we need tofind a place to meet,
whether it's Democrats against Democrats,
Democrats against Republicans,
no kingdom dividedagainst itself will stand.
Those people who saythat they're so inclusive
are exclusive, theyexclude people like me,
and it's time that people know
that God is the onethat we need to turn to.
- So it's all aboutheart and about America.
Not party.- I love America.
On a bad day, America is thebest country in the world.
- Amen.
Okay, Kim Daniels, thank you
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- The Barna Group has just completed
the largest study ever onreligious freedom in America.
It took four years to complete,
and the results are astonishing.
3/4 of the U.S. clergy now believe
religious freedom is becomingless valued in our country,
and two out of five adults polled,
43% say religious freedomis worse in America
than 10 years ago.
Well, joining us to sharemore polling insights
is the president of theBarna Group, David Kinnaman.
David, it's a pleasure seeing you
and having you with us today,
so are we losing our commitment
to the First Amendmentto our Constitution?
What surprised you themost about this study?
- Well, one of the interestingthings from the study,
we were looking at the perspectives of
pastors in the United States,
we looked at both Catholic clergy
as well as Protestant leaders,
and as you mentioned,the vast majority of them
are concerned about thestate of religious liberty.
They are concerned aboutthe tone and texture
of the conversations thathappen around religion,
and they're also concerned about how
practicing Christians will be able to
practice their faith in the future.
Part of that that was really interesting
was they were actuallyconcerned about how they preach
and teach, and we found thata vast majority of pastors
say they are often constrained or limited
in the way that they preachand teach in today's society.
They actually feel pressure tonot preach on certain topics,
or pressured to speak on topics
that they're not ready to talk about.
- Well, what are some of those topics
they're telling you about?
- Well, we found thatcertainly issues of sexuality,
the LGBT community, and recognizing
sort of how to talk about thatfrom a biblical perspective,
issues of morality, values, politics,
consumerism, immigration.
There's all this sort ofpressure to speak out on issues
or to not speak out on issues.
- It seems like a lot of pastors
are almost afraid to preach about sin,
consequences of sin, preach about Hell.
I know there are concernsabout the decline
of traditional values and young people
are dropping out of church, so tell us
a little bit about that.
- You know, one of the interesting things
that we find in the research is that
young people are often more willing
to be challenged, and tobe pushed by the church
than the church iswilling to challenge them,
and in fact, the thingsthat we really learned
about those who areresilient in their faith
is they're actually taughtabout a lot of really
deep theological truths, andwe don't shy away from that
in those churches thatretain young people,
that produce resilient discipleship.
But it is certainly a moredifficult environment.
We see in the research that
young Christians are telling us
they feel afraid to speak up.
They feel misunderstood, marginalized.
It is a very difficult environment
to grow up as a young Christian,
and so we should acknowledge that
and recognize that, butbe all the more committed
to teaching these youngpeople the truth of scripture.
- My understanding isthis wasn't just about
Christian opinions, you polled all faiths,
did you, in America?
Did you break down the concernsby various faith groups?
Are say, more Muslims, Jews,
more concerned than Christiansabout religious freedom,
or are they about the same?
- Part of what we weretrying to understand was
is religious liberty something that
everyone is concernedabout in the same ways,
and we did find that Jewish and Muslim,
and other faith clergy leaders
also are concerned aboutreligious liberty as well,
and I think this is an important thing,
that if we were concerned about
religious liberty for Christians,
we also oughta be concerned about
religious liberty for peopleof other faith groups.
We found in the research among adults
that there is this growingconcern about religious liberty,
although in the last two years,
under the Trump administration,
that concern has been mitigated somewhat.
But certainly when you speak to people
in Christian higher education,
when you talk about theopportunities to sort of
run institutions likeadoption services and others
in a very religiously plural culture,
there is concerns abouthow will people's rights,
how will these organizations,how will these churches,
how will these colleges and universities,
how will their rights topractice their religion,
not really to worship and to do the things
in the church building,but how to practice
those faith commitmentsout in the public square.
Those are really, really large concerns
that most people, they sortof feel it in the water,
but they don't reallyhow to articulate it,
and I think that's actuallypart of what we learned
in this study was this growing sense
that we need a better way forward
when it comes to religiousliberty in our times today.
- Did any of them share with you
on why they felt this was happening?
- When we talked to faith leaders,
there is this sense that you know,
we actually looked at awhole range of things,
like is it a concern about LGBT agenda?
Is it concerns aroundother sort of faith groups
pushing Christianity to the sidelines?
And those were some of the concerns that
Christian leaders talk about,
and certainly there is awide range of concerns.
Part of, I think, our current moment
is that we're in a much morereligiously plural environment,
Christianity is not asdominant as it used to be
in American culture, andwhat can we do about sort of
the concerns about this next generation?
So how do we articulate away forward for Christianity,
and acknowledging that thisis a different environment?
In some ways, we actually think that
it's a good news for Christianity
to have to be just not the only voice,
but one of many voicesin our society today.
You know, of course, we hope other people
would become Christians,but what does it mean for us
to be part of areligiously plural culture?
And how do we help to love people,
even if we have differences?
How do we have ourconversations on social media?
So when we talk aboutdiscipling this next generation,
how can we teach them to think about
their current cultural environment?
I think about the story ofDaniel in the Old Testament,
this young leader whowas in a pluralistic,
religiously, you know, weird world,
and he was able to sortof think about his context
and think about theologicaltruths that he was holding to,
his commitment to prayer, hiscommitments to relationships,
his commitments to his public square,
his role as a politicalleader within Babylon,
and in a similar way, I actually hope
that that would be part of our experience
as Christians today, is that
we realize that we arein a type of new exile
here in the United States.
That can be a good thing in terms of
our opportunities tominister and to be effective,
but to recognize that this is a much more
complex environment, andthat the fight for truth
isn't just gonna be wonwith sheer firepower.
- And the old saying fromthe persecuted church
around the world, morepersecution, more church growth.
Okay, David Kinnaman,president of the Barna Group,
thanks for sharing your insights.
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- Recently House Democratswent on the record
in support of illegal immigrant voting.
Yes, the House voted 228 to 197
defending the practice,which is taking place
in some American communities.
It's all part of an effort by Democrats
to gain new voters for their party.
They know illegal immigrantswould likely vote for them,
because the party supports open borders,
sanctuary cities, and entitlementbenefits for illegals.
The thinking is let themin, give them stuff,
and they'll vote for us.
And now Speaker Pelosisays it's time to add
more potential Democratsto the voting rolls.
Let's give 16-year-olds the right to vote.
- I think it's reallyimportant to capture kids
when they're in high school,
when they're interested in all of this,
when they're learning aboutgovernment, to be able to vote.
- 16-year-olds don't havethe emotional maturity
and experience to begranted the right to vote.
So think again Madame Speaker.
Your zeal to gain millionsof new Democrat voters
is clouding your judgment.
If you want to advocate illegalimmigrant voting rights,
and the casting ofballots by 16-year-olds,
go right ahead.
But Bernie, Biden, Beto or not,
ideas like that may cost your party dearly
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