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- Ireland was once a nationwhere almost everyone

went to church, now inparts of the country,

almost no one does.

So what happened?

Dale Hurd reports from Dublin

on Ireland's Christian legacyand why it isn't over yet.

- [Reporter] If there's a symbol

of what happened to faith inIreland, it might be this,

the Church of the Annunciation,just outside of Dublin.

It's one of the largestchurch buildings in Ireland.

And it's about to be knocked down

because so few people attend services.

Anyone in Ireland over50 can still remember

a nation where almosteveryone went to church,

but today live in anation where in some areas

almost no one goes to church.

- The Christian faiththat has dominated Ireland

for centuries died with surprising speed.

And as one leader putit, "Today for the Irish

God has become irrelevant."

- [Reporter] They not onlywalked away from the church,

they legalized same-sex marriage,

abortion, and elected anopenly gay prime minister.

Nick Park heads Ireland'sEvangelical Alliance.

- It was very much a cultural religion

but they were Catholicbecause they were Irish,

and the two were seen as synonymous.

- We were very arrogant as a church.

- [Reporter] Patty Monaghan helps lead

the Evangelical Catholic Initiative.

- Sadly it's taken the two referendums,

the vote that lost, oneon same-sex marriage,

one on abortion, to bringhome to the Catholic church

in Ireland that they'renow a minority church.

- [Reporter] Church buildings abandoned,

some Catholic seminaries, almost empty.

One clergyman wrote that thebattle for faith in Ireland

has been lost.

But a new church is rising.

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This is the largest church in Ireland

and it is Romanian Pentecostal.

The worshipers atBatania or Bethany church

came to Ireland to find work

but now realized they were sentto Ireland as missionaries.

Batania church is exploding.

It's building a new five anda half million dollar facility

on faith, one that willaccommodate 1500 worshipers.

I met two of its pastorsat the construction site.

- We're praying for this country.

We're fasting for this country.

And I think God has a planwith us to be a blessing

for this country, and themore people to know God

and to be saved in this country,because God loves Ireland.

- Now we realize God has a greater plan,

a bigger purpose for ourlives to deliver his message

and his kingdom works for this country.

- [Reporter] In fact,the second largest church

in Ireland is also Romanian Pentecostal.

Batania Pastor, Jurjea,remembers when nations

like Ireland sent Biblesto communist Romania.

- And those Bibles are coming back now.

- [Reporter] Africanchurches are also growing.

The Nigerian RedeemedChristian Church of God

has grown to more than100 churches in Ireland

with several thousand members.

And even though most Irish

have rejected the institutional church,

polls show many still believethe core of the gospel.

- Among Irish youth,

I think it's something like 70% of them

said they really believedJesus rose from the dead.

They really believed in heaven and hell.

They really believed

that Jesus was the incarnate Son of God.

So you've still got thesevery high rates of belief

in the facts of the Gospel.

- When we were choked byreligion and institutionalism

there wasn't much life,

but now that we have thoseinstitutions crumbling

I think that we're inthe land of opportunity.

- [Reporter] Monaghansays the spirit is moving

in some Catholic churches as well.

- I do know there's aspiritual awakening happening

in this country.

And some parish priests arereally becoming born again,

filled with the Holy Spirit,

and getting a vision for what's possible.

There's that spiritualheritage within this nation.

I believe the enemy,Satan, wants to destroy,

but there's I believeit's gonna happen again.

- [Reporter] Ireland,once a mission field,

then a base for missions, hasbecome a mission field again.

- Dale Hurd joins usnow via Skype with more.

Dale, how did Irelandleave the faith so quickly?

- Well, you know, they did studies

back when Ireland was very religious

and it showed that thefaith wasn't very deep.

Ireland is about, you know,

the Irish are aboutrelationship and community.

And I think the CatholicChurch was a part of that.

And then when these scandalsjust rocked the nation,

terrible scandals involvingchildren, you know,

that there was nothingto hold the Irish there,

they were through.

- Many debate, whether Europeis really post-Christian

because we're seeing greatmoves of God in many places.

Is it post-Christian?

- Well you get a room of Christian leaders

from Europe together, andthat'll start a fight.

There are, great thingsare happening, as you say

but the culture has been lost.

I mean, we're talking about nations

that were completelyChristian, more or less.

And now in many cases,almost no one goes to church.

And so, you know, while God is moving

they've lost the culture.

We have instances in nations like Britain

that are officially Christianpersecuting Christians.

And it's the only group thatthey pick on are Christians,

and they're a Christian nation.

And we have this all across Europe,

this story of the Finnishmember of parliament

who faces prison forsimply tweeting verses

from Romans condemning homosexuality.

- Do you think this isgonna get worse, Dale?

What's the future ofChristianity in Europe?

- I think persecution will get worse.

There's nothing to keep Europe

from persecuting Christians

because it's unmooredfrom standards, you know,

traditional standards of law.

It's whatever, you know,makes it feel better, it does.

And right now it seesChristianity as oppressive.

But I believe in the great commission,

I believe in the irrevocable calls of God

on Europe and on many of these nations

and Europeans are empty spiritually.

And so there is the,there's the turf there

for a major mass revivaland many are praying for it.

- And what really stoodout to me in your piece.

I mean, many things, but thefact that Bibles were sent

from Ireland to Romaniaduring the cold war.

And now those Bibles are coming back,

not just the Bibles, but the missionaries.

- It's called the great reflex.

And this was the prayerof early missionaries

like William Carey and David Livingston,

that the people of Africa andAsia from these mission fields

would one day carry theGospel back to Europe.

- Well, it seems like now'sthe time and now's the day.

Dale, another excellent report.

Thank you for joining us today.

- Thank you.

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- President Trump has taken on

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but what about defenseand national security?

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the China threat is growing.

Brigadier General, Robert Spalding

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How China Took Over WhileAmerica's Elite Slept."

He's a former China strategist

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and Senior Fellow at the Hudson Institute.

What should be our greaterconcern when it comes to China?

- What I wrote about in my book

is a very stealthy way that they go about

using globalization and theinternet to insinuate themselves

in every democratic institutionwithin the United States,

even to the point where suppressing speech

and suppressing religion

is something that theycan do really at will.

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specifics in a moment,

but President Trump saysthat he's been in touch

with Chinese president XiJinping about the Coronavirus,

that they're friends, theyhave a good relationship.

So how do you see this viral outbreak

affecting U.S, China relations?

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of the Chinese Communist Party.

So what's finally happening within China

is that Chinese peopleare beginning to wake up

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Of course, they've beenquarantined to their apartments,

some have actually been lockedin their apartments to die.

I think, you know, the United States,

and other democracieshave come to know things

like the concentration camps in Xinjiang

and the forced organ harvestingof prisoners of conscience

that has been illuminatedby the UK Tribunal.

But the people of China

have essentially been kept in the dark.

And so for the first time

they're actually beginningto see the true nature

of the regime, which hasled to widespread dissent

within the country for the first time,

really since theTiananmen Square massacre.

- Now the president'sfiscal year 2021 budget

I think keeps the defense budget

about the same, around $740 billion.

What will that mean for thenational defense strategy

that prioritizes China?

- Well, I think one of themajor things to have happened,

policy-wise in the United States

is last August we pulled out of

the intermediate Nuclear Forces Treaty,

which was a treaty betweenRussia and the United States.

Now what that treaty saidwas the United States

couldn't build intermediaterange, ballistic

or cruise missiles, but theRussians were violating it.

And the Chinese have used the fact

that they weren't asignatory to build thousands,

literally thousands ofintermediate range ballistic

and cruise missiles thatare conventionally armed.

Some are nuclear armed in the region

which really puts our forceslike carrier battle groups

in our bases, our air basesin the region, under threat.

And what we needed to do wasreally begin to build some

of those weapons ourselves,

because they are quite effective

and efficient at creating deterrence.

They are taking ourinnovation, our technology

our talent, and capital,and using it to build

up their science and technology capability

and their manufacturing capability.

And so not just building weapons

or buying weapons is whatthe United States need to do.

Rather it needs to begin to invest

in infrastructure, and manufacturing,

and science, and technology,and STEM education.

By the way these are all things

that the Eisenhower Administration

did during the beginning of the Cold War

which led to our victory.

So the National SecurityStrategy really talks about

changing the equation, stopgiving all of our technology,

our innovation, our talent,

and our capital to the Chineseto build up their power.

Let's begin to invest inAmerican and American people.

And I'm hopeful that inthe next administration

we'll begin to put some ofthose measures in place.

- Well I know in his Stateof the Union address,

the President said he's committed

to building the newestbranch of the U.S. Military.

That's the U.S. Space Force.

The Russians are shadowingour spy satellites in space.

So how concerned should webe about outer space warfare

with the Russians or the Chinese?

- Within their region, very concerned

because we don't haveany of the same ground

or air-based assets thatthe Chinese Communist Party

has built in the region.

And so that really makes ourspace-based assets vulnerable.

But even more insidious is this ability

to influence Americansat the individual level,

particularly after 2016, wesaw the Russians use AI bots,

artificial intelligencebots, social media networks,

and big data analysis to create protests

throughout the United States.

The Chinese are perfectingthese technologies

and techniques as well.

And it really creates achallenge for democracies today.

- Cyber security, a bigissue right here in the U.S..

Okay, U.S. BrigadierGeneral Robert Spalding,

author, former China Strategist

for the Joint Chiefs of Staff,

and Senior Fellow at the Hudson Institute.

Thank you so much forsharing your insights.

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- American popular cultureis steadily being inundated

with pro LGBTQ messages.

Marvel is pushing anonscreen same-sex kiss

in a movie out next fall.

HGTV has announced itplans to feature a throuple

in its "House Hunters" series.

That show will feature amarried man and a woman

who have two kids

and are in a relationshipwith another woman

who lives with them.

And then there's AOC.

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- Here to set us straighton these cultural influences

from the LGBTQ communityis George Carneal,

raised by a Southern Baptist minister.

Mr. Carneal spent 25 years

immersed in the homosexual lifestyle.

He is author of the new book,

"From Queer To Christ: MyJourney Into The Light."

So George, tell us why is this onslaught

from the LGBTQ community occurringin our culture this time?

It seems they've gone fromfighting for societal tolerance

to indoctrination,demanding that our culture

embrace a minority lifestyle.

- I think it's going tocontinue to get worse.

I knew when they opened the flood Gates,

it's never going to be enough really

until we look at the bigger picture

of what the agenda is really about.

And that is silencingChristians and all opposition

to this agenda and anythingthat is pro-family,

pro-Christian, pro-life, pro-America.

It's just an agendathat's going to keep going

until they can silence everyone.

- Well explain to usthen, how is it that you,

raised by a SouthernBaptist minister, a Father,

came to embrace a gay lifestyle?

- Well, my journey was,

I really struggled with a lotof bullying when I was a kid.

There was a disconnect with my male peers

and because of the demandsof my father's ministry

he wasn't around a lot.

I think there was something in me

that was missing maleaffection and male bonding.

So when I first, and I wentthrough a lot of bullying,

so when I first steppedinto a gay bar at 18

it was the first time that men

were looking at me differentlyand treating me differently.

I wasn't getting the negative attention

but it was a positive attention.

And it really becameaddicting because for someone

who really didn't have thatfor 18 years of their life

I just quickly becameaddicted to that life,

and it just descended within three years.

By that point I was already battling drugs

and alcohol, depression,I had a sex addiction,

I was a prostitute, andI attempted suicide,

and it would still be 22 more years

before God would finallyget me out of that life.

- There's a growing effortin states around the nation

right now to adopt legislationprohibiting counseling,

that attempts to bring gays and lesbians

out of the homosexual lifestyle.

Your thoughts on that.

Should we have lawsbanning conversion therapy?

- Absolutely not.

The way they tell it, theyact as if every counselor

out there is doing harmto an LGBT individual,

and it's not the case.

I've worked with both secularand Christian counselors

and everyone has beenrespectful of my journey,

what I've been struggling with.

Even my faith, I havenot had anyone harm me.

And I've been through lots of therapy

with lots of therapists.

What they need to understand

is there are LGBT individualswho do not want these feelings

and they want help getting that healing

and wholeness that they want

so they can have a family and children,

that is their desire.

And they have every rightto seek out whatever kind

of counseling they need to getthat healing and wholeness.

The LGBT activists and even government,

the government does nothave the right to step in

and mandate and dictate

that we have to be saddledwith these feelings.

- And I'm sure just likeyou many gays, George,

you at one time viewedChristians as intolerant enemies.

So how should churches andChristians respond then

to gay members in their congregations?

- For me, I really hated Christians.

I had such a negative view of them

and I had really been hurt by them

because a lot of them give the narrative

that God created AIDS to kill the fags.

God destroyed Sodom and Gomorrah

to get rid of the homosexuals.

You hear all of the perverted stuff.

And then they'll say allfags are going to hell.

And this really stole anyhope that I had in my own life

of trying to think or believethat God was really an ally.

And it was really God slowly immersing me

back into the church,

but with Christians who trulyhad the heart of Christ,

that allowed me a safe placeto go and just sit with them.

And I wasn't harassed, orbullied, or mistreated.

But it was sitting underthe power of the conviction,

of the Holy Spirit, ofpastors who had the guts

to speak the truth of God's word.

And I knew that by theChristians in my own life

who were loving and whoinvested time in me,

and poured love into me,

that really gave me alot of food for thought.

And God started to expose thelies of the LGBT activists

including the liberal theologians

who pushed the "gay is okay" narrative.

And after I had to work through the lies

and God deprogrammed me of those lies

and gave me the healing that I needed,

gave me the strength towalk out of that life.

- The Episcopal Church just ordained

its first lesbian Bishop, Bonnie Perry.

Should people who are openly homosexual

be in leadership positions in churches?

- Absolutely not.

And that goes for heterosexuals

who are sleeping outside of marriage

or they're living withsomeone and they're unmarried.

No, there's a Godly,

there's a way that we'resupposed to live our lives,

that God calls us to do in His Word.

And unless we are meeting those standards,

not that anyone's perfect,

but we should really be doingour best to live a Godly life

because we are an influence on others.

And not only that, weare representing God.

So no, they should not be allowed.

- And finally, George, howshould Christians then respond

to these LGBTQ influencesthat we're now seeing

in movies, films, politics,culture, what's your advice?

- My advice is, I knowHollywood is glamorizing it

and they are giving a sanitized version

of what homosexuality is.

But until you sit down and listen

to the testimonies of every gay, lesbian,

and transgender individualwho has come out

of that life and you listento the horror stories

of what we've been throughand the reality of that life

which I share in my book, it's not X-rated

but I don't sugarcoat it.

But the life is so different

from what Hollywood andwhat the media portray.

And so when a Christian affirms this,

they think that they'redoing the most loving thing,

but you're not, you're notonly hurting that individual.

And you're pushing them into a life

of where they're not goingto find any peace, happiness

or contentment, but they are,

you are pushing them intofurther rebellion against God.

And I've seen the casualties of that life.

And I'm warning Christiansto stop affirming this

tell them the truth and love.

And just so you'll knowin the back of my book

I put all of the talkingpoints that the LGBT activists

and the Christian liberal theologian Jews

and I debunked that with scripture.

So if you have individuals in your life

who are not willing to listen to this

give them the book or at least to get it

and familiarize yourselfwith those talking points

so when they do come at you and say,

no, no, no, no, it's okay.

You can give them scripture

because they are not going to sit down

and study God's word to getthe truth for themselves.

- Okay, the book is,

"From Queer To Christ: MyJourney Into The Light."

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- Asia Bibi, thePakistani Christian mother

who spent more than nine years in prison

on charges of committing blasphemy

told the online French Catholicnews service, Alitalia,

she prayed daily andread the Bible regularly

during her imprisonment.

She says her sufferingwas a trial sent by God.

She explained that Psalm91 encouraged her the most

during her incarceration.

"The Lord is my refuge."

Although radical Muslimsstill threatened her life,

Bibi says she hopes somedayto return to Pakistan.

She says, she'd likepeople to work together

to end the country's blasphemy law.

This law has become a tool of radicals

and those who want to level charges

against anyone they don't like.

Especially if there's a property dispute,

argument, or disagreement.

The accuser yells, blasphemer!

Crowds gather around,the accused is arrested

considered guilty without anysolid evidence against them.

Judges are intimidated,threatened with death

if they rule in favor of the accused.

It's only when cases go tothe Pakistani Supreme Court

when we see acquittals,

like the one in the case of Asia Bibi.

But also in the case of Asia Bibi,

the innocent defendantoften remains in prison

for years before they're finally free

and sometimes militantskill them upon release.

During the period, 1987 to 2017,

238 Christians were jailed onblasphemy charges in Pakistan.

But guess what, 516 Ahmadisand 720 other Muslims

were also imprisoned.

Yes, Christians have been singled out

because while there have been nearly 500

fewer blasphemy cases forthem compared to Muslims,

Christians are only about 2%of the Pakistani population,

a bit disproportionate don't you think?

And while the blasphemy law needs to go

and many Pakistanis supportremoving the law from the books

few will stick their neck outand be advocates for change.

Muslim Governor of Punjab,Salman Taseer did that.

He was assassinated in 2011.

What then is the solution?

Perhaps a new law thatwould imprison anyone

who falsely accuses anotherPakistani of blasphemy.

That may be the best Asia Bibi,

and other Pakistanis couldhope for in this time.

Bibi says her greatestjoy has been bowing down

to the greatness of God.

So let's join her in bowingdown to the greatness of God.

Let's continue to prayfor Asia and her family.

And let's not forgetto pray for Christians

and others unfairly imprisoned in Pakistan

and elsewhere around the world.

Pray that God's justice prevails.

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