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- [John] Tonight, the summer surge.

- This is a pandemic that isflaring up all over the place.

- [John] Coronaviruscases breaking new records

in hotspots across the country.

- Please, I'm beggingyou, wear a face covering.

- [John] This as major retailers

implement their own mask-wearing mandates.

- Let us not forget that we are involved

in a serious social revolution.

- [John] The life and legacyof the conscience of Congress,

civil rights icon John Lewis.

- Push and pull until weredeem the soul of America.

- Plus, a global studylooks at the influence

of God, religion, andprayer around the world.

All this and more tonighton "Faith Nation."

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Good evening.

The continued spike in coronavirus cases

fueling concern across the country.

Welcome to "Faith Nation."

I'm John Jessup. JennaBrowder is out this evening.

We begin with a potential fora new round of financial help

for American businesses comingjust as many contemplate

whether the pandemic willforce them to close for good.

President Trump today meetingwith Republican lawmakers

to discuss the next form of relief.

CBN White House Correspondent Ben Kennedy

has our top story tonight.

Ben, can you give us anidea of what's expected

in this next bill?

- Oh yeah, John, President Trump says

he wants the payroll taxcut while the GOP is pushing

for liability protection,jobs, and even healthcare.

- This is a pandemic that isflaring up all over the place.

- [Ben] In response, theWhite House called House

and Senate Republicanleaders to the Oval Office

to talk about a phasefour COVID-19 relief bill.

- Kids in school, jobs, and healthcare

will be the theme of the proposal.

- For those small businesses,

we wanna make sure you can stay open.

- [Ben] It's a key priority,

as debate over more relieflegislation coincides

with a coronavirus surgeacross the country,

3.7 million confirmed cases,

more than 140,000 Americans have died.

- This is a a worldwide problem,

caused by China, butit's a worldwide problem.

Our countries are going through hell.

- [Ben] In a desperateattempt to slow the spread,

Surgeon General Dr. JeromeAdams took to Twitter

with a public plea.

- Please, I'm beggingyou, wear a face covering.

These small actions willmake a big difference.

- [Ben] On the vaccine front,Oxford University released

early results, saying phaseone of the human trials

showed a positive immuneresponse, increased presence

of antibodies and T cellsthat might stop the virus

in its tracks.

- The truth is that we don't know

when we'll have a final result

on how well the vaccine works.

It's likely to be monthsrather than weeks,

but we said before wewere aiming for September,

October time.

I still think that's arealistic aspiration,

but we can't be certain.

- Now today, President Trumpannounced he is bringing back

the coronavirus dailytask force briefings,

which he will lead.

He says those will mostlikely begin tomorrow.

That is Tuesday at 5:00 pm.

John.

- All right, CBN's BenKennedy. Thanks, Ben.

Well, joining me now is CBNMedical Reporter Lorie Johnson.

Lorie, thanks for being with us.

Why don't we start right whereBen left off with a vaccine.

What is the latest thatyou're hearing on a vaccine?

Any news on that front?

- Well, John, last week Ispoke with the NIH director,

Francis Collins, who is on the front lines

of the coronavirus pandemic, as you know,

and a lot of peoplearen't aware of the fact

that he's a very outspoken Christian,

a man of God and a man of science.

And he is very excited.

He believes that there willbe a vaccine by December

and that it will be massproduced by that time

and available to thepeople who need it most

at the end of the year,beginning of next year,

we're talking about peoplewho work in hospitals

and nursing homes, people invery highly affected areas,

and that by spring, John,everyone in the United States

who wants a vaccine will beable to have that vaccine.

Of course, we know that recent polls show

that one in five Americans say

even when a vaccine isavailable, they will reject it.

Francis Collins said that he understands

a lot of people are a little wary

because the vaccine hasbeen rushed to market,

but that the rushing aspect of it,

it doesn't have anythingto do with the fact

that it will work and will be safe.

It's really more of the manufacturing

that's being done rightnow rather than later.

- Dr. Collins trying to givethe reassuring word there.

Well, plain and simple,to the great mask debate.

Do masks work and should therebe a federal mask mandate

with the surge now that we'reseeing in several states?

- Well, of course everyone hasso many different opinions,

but the scientific opinion is yes,

masks have been shown to work.

But sure, we can understand

why people are a little bit hesitant

and a little bit confusedabout the mask issue

because, remember, at the verybeginning of the pandemic,

the Surgeon General Jerome Adams,

who you just saw beggingpeople to wear a mask,

he came out and said to the nation,

"Hey, don't worry aboutit. Masks don't work,"

and then later, Anthony Fauci said,

"Only the people who need to wear masks

are those who might thinkthat they are sick."

And now, of course, science tells us

that masks to do work andeveryone should wear a mask

when they go into public places.

So, but as far as like a national mandate,

the president is very firm

that he doesn't think thatthat's the right thing to do

as far as our own individual freedoms,

but that it would be niceif people chose to do that

when a mask is required.

- Lorie, we just have a few seconds left.

To the other nationaldebate going on right now,

whether kids should go back to school

or completely virtual this fall.

Is it safe for kids to be backin the classroom in person?

- Well again, the science is on the side

of kids going back to school.

We know that kids don't transmit the virus

as readily as we thought originally,

and that staying away from school, John,

is so bad for childrenand actually affects

lower income people morethan the upper income

so that just widens therich and the poor disparity.

This issue is going to be decided

on an individual school district basis,

depending on what's going onin the individual communities,

not something that's going tobe judged on a national basis.

- All right, CBN MedicalReporter Lorie Johnson.

Thanks, Lorie.

- My pleasure.

- Well this week's sessionof the United States House

started with Republicanand Democratic lawmakers

joining in a moment ofsilence for one of their own,

Congressman John Lewis.

- [Nancy] Rise in a momentof silence and remembrance

of the conscience of the Congress,the honorable John Lewis.

- Flags in Washington

and many places around thecountry still at half mast

in honor of Lewis, who died late Friday

after battling stagefour pancreatic cancer.

The peaceful warrior, as he was known,

was considered a lion ofthe civil rights movement.

His bloody beating by Alabamastate troopers in 1965

galvanized oppositionto racial segregation.

Lewis, a Democrat, was calledthe conscience of Congress

and maintained strong friendships

on both sides of the aisle.

Statements from PresidentTrump and Vice President Pence

were among the many thathonored Lewis' life and legacy.

Well here with us now isspecial guest Alveda King,

director of civil rights for the unborn

for Priests for Life.

Dr. King, thanks for being with us today.

- Thank you for thisopportunity. Hello everyone.

- Well, Congressman John Lewis

was a friend and ally of your uncle,

the Reverend Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr.

As of last Friday, he wasthe last living speaker

at the March on Washington,dying on the same day

as the Reverend C.T. Vivian.

How do you remember the lifeand legacy of John Lewis?

- I met John Lewis in the 1960s.

I was a youth organizer, andof course he was already known

as the peaceful warrior ofthe civil rights movement.

My father, Reverend AlfredDaniel Williams King,

was there on that bridge,on the Edmund Pettus bridge,

when John was beatenand my dad was beaten,

Hosea Williams and others.

And so I know that hehas been very consistent

throughout his lifetime until he died

with being forgiving, peaceful,and caring about the people.

He was a servant leader.

And that is the way I rememberCongressman John Lewis.

- Alveda, the Edmund Pettus Bridge,

named after a KKK leaderwho supported slavery,

it's where John Lewis was brutally beaten,

marching for the right to vote

along with your father and others.

What do you of the ideaof renaming the bridge

in honor of John Lewis,as some are suggesting?

- I believe it would be very appropriate,

if the bridge is renamed ofcourse, to Freedom Walkway

or Freedom Pathway with avery distinguished notation

to Congressman Lewis and others.

Things happen and occur in groups

rather than one leader and one individual

being the only one thatshould be recognized.

I know in the Bible pattern, for example,

you had Moses and Abraham and et cetera,

but in the New Testament,

you had Christ and the disciples, the 12,

at the Pentecost, 120.

And so I believe it's appropriate.

I more like the thingPresident Trump says,

a garden, a historical garden

with these historical figures there,

perhaps even in their natural habitat

of serving or building or doing.

So I, if the bridge is renamed,

I would love to see it named something

that would not onlyremember Congressman Lewis,

and I mean a champion there,but to remember others as well.

- You know, more and moreAmericans now see racism

as a major issue thatneeds to be addressed.

The fight for equality andjustice predates John Lewis,

your father, and uncle, and so many others

who made peaceful stands.

Dr. King, is it possible toovercome the racial wounds

without a move by the power of God?

- It is very possibleonce we acknowledge God.

And with God, all things are possible.

Martin Luther King, Jrsaid that they should come

when we don't have blackpower or white power,

only God power and human power,

with the humans subjected to God Almighty.

And once we subject ourselves to God,

all things are possible.

So I do definitely believe it is possible.

We have to acknowledge that weare one race, the human race.

- Powerful words.

You know, I listened thismorning on my way into work

to a historian talk about John Lewis

and how he adopted the theologyof redemptive suffering,

getting into what he calls good trouble

by practicing non-violence.

How did John Lewis influenceyou as a peaceful warrior?

- John Lewis was part of a movement.

We understood that unearnedsuffering is redemptive.

That's something MartinLuther King Jr said.

However, as Christians,we're following the doctrine

and the gospel of JesusChrist, not a social gospel,

and we deal with not even social justice,

but the justice and mercy of God,

the judgment of Godbeing tempered by mercy,

the gospel of Jesus Christ.

And so if we follow the example of Christ,

that would include thenon-violent principles

that John Lewis followed

and carried out throughout his lifetime.

He and I had different platforms.

I, as I say, I'm more likea Christian evangelist,

the gospel of Jesus Christ,

and John fighting for social justice

and the social gospel kind of thing.

However, I admire himas a peaceful warrior.

That's the man that I know, or knew.

Of course, he's gone now.

And I did console his family as well.

- Dr. Alveda King, thanksfor making time for us today

and sharing yourreflections of John Lewis.

- Thank you.

- [John] Coming up, we divedeeper in today's headlines

with CBN News Chief PoliticalAnalyst David Brody.

You're watching CBN's "Faith Nation."

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- Welcome back.

Joining me now to discuss someof the day's top headlines.

David Brody, CBN NewsChief Political Analyst.

David, why don't we beginwhere Ben Kennedy started,

our CBN White House Correspondent.

We know that there's consensusgrowing for phase four,

of the coronavirus stimulus.

Less so when it comes to how much

and whether it shouldinclude the payroll tax cuts

the president is advocating orfunding for the CDC and NIH.

Lawmakers are, of course, against a clock.

They've got the August recess coming up.

Can Washington get it done?

- (laughs) Can Washington get it done?

Ha ha, hilarious, rim shot.

Look, here's what's gonna happen.

The payroll tax cut is notgonna happen, all right.

The president wants this,

but no one on Capitol Hill wants it.

Even Republicans are saying,

"I don't know if this is the right move,"

and here's why, John.

The last time I checked, apayroll tax cut helps people

that are, wait for it, employed.

The problem is, is that what the Democrats

and many Republicans are saying,

we need to help the unemployed.

So what does a payroll tax cut do exactly?

Yes, there's an economic argument for it,

but we'll save that foranother "Faith Nation"

stellar analysis.

Okay, I wasn't talking about myself.

I was hoping you'd have someone else on.

But look, the truth of the matter is

that's not gonna happen.

Now, the CDC funding, the NIH funding,

the Trump administrationwants to zero that out.

That's also not gonna happen.

I mean, Senate Republicanswant to give 10 billion

and 15 million respectivelyto the CDC and the NIH.

My guess is you'll seesome sort of figure emerge.

- Now, David, the presidenthas already threatened to veto

if the next bill doesn'tinclude the payroll tax cut.

What about that?

- Right. Well, there's that for sure.

I mean, he says that,

but we're gonna see what'sgonna happen regarding that.

Look, for Trump, it's always about

the art of the deal, right, sohe has to put his marker down

and he'll probably say, "We'lllook at it and phase five,"

if there's a phase five.

So it's just not gonna happen.

Now there is the issue ofunemployment insurance,

which will run out at the end of the month

for many folks at $600 a week.

Now there's no sense that they'regoing to get anything done

by the end of the month, but into August,

they will, I'm sure, extendor re-extend those benefits

and then it'll just be retroactive.

So people will get their unemployment.

I don't think there'sany question about that.

- David, you were channeling me.

You just answered my nextquestion. We'll move on.

The White House announced

the return-- Wow.

- the return of the coronavirustask force briefings.

The president will holdthe first one tomorrow.

Good idea or bad idea.

- (chuckles) Well, okay, so here...

John, why am I laughing?

I'm cracking myself up.

Look.

Good idea in theory,

and I'll get to the bad part in a moment.

Good idea in theory is that,

look, the president cancontrol the narrative.

He'll get in front of the cameras.

It looks like he's taking charge.

He's on top of things.

He'll be able to say what hewants to say at the beginning

about vaccines andtherapeutics and all that.

Theory.

Here's the potential bad news.

Hmm, Donald Trump isn'tall that disciplined

and he could get sidetracked very easily,

and if this thing goessideways, like it has before,

then watch out, Katy, bar the door.

So that's the problem for this president.

Look, I've said,

well, I really haven't said all along,

but I'm about to say it here,

but the president'sAchilles' heel all along,

a lot of people have lotsof Achilles' heels for him.

The Achilles heel for thispresident is self-discipline.

That's it in a nutshell.

This will be key in these briefings.

- All right, David,

I think we're going tohave to leave it there.

CBN News

Chief Political Analyst- Oh.

- David Brody, thanks for the laughter

and for your insights.

- Oh, anytime.

Oh, you mean laughter firstthen insights. Gotcha.

- (laughs) Both, we'll take 'em both.

- All right.

- [John] Well coming up,how people across the globe

view the importance ofreligion and prayer.

That and more when "Faith Nation" returns.

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- Well tonight, even though we're living

in a more secularized world,many people across the globe

say religion is stillimportant and that God plays

an important role in their lives.

A new worldwide survey, or study, rather,

from the Pew Research Centersurveyed people in 34 countries

on their beliefs as well asthe importance of God, prayer,

and religion in their lives.

It found a global divideamong nations though

over how important aspects of faith are

and whether belief in God isnecessary to lead a moral life.

Well here now for more onthat story is Jacob Poushter,

associate director withthe Pew Research Center.

Jacob, thanks for beingwith us this this evening.

Can you tell us a littlebit more about the survey?

It looked at people across 34 countries.

What was the percentage thatsaid religion is important

and that God plays animportant role in their lives?

- Thank you for having me.

About 6 in 10 around the world

said that religion isimportant in their lives

and that God plays animportant role in their lives.

But as you said, therewas quite a variation

across countries for that number.

Some countries, it's higher than the 60%.

Some countries it's lower than the 60%.

But overall, that's what we found

from asking our questionacross 34 countries.

- And why don't we just pick it up there?

The interesting breakdown

is that not everyonethinks that belief in God

is necessary to be moral.

How does that connectionbetween God and morality

vary across differentcountries and regions?

- So when you ask it that way,45% across the 34 countries

say that it's necessary to believe in God

in order to be moral.

And some countries are,again, are above that number,

so in Indonesia, Philippines, up to 96%

say that it's necessary to believe in God

in order to be moral.

And then there's a country like Sweden,

where only 9% say it'snecessary to believe in God

in order to be moral.

And the US is sort of right in the middle.

About 44% in the US say it'snecessary to believe in God

in order to be moral versus54% who say the opposite

in the United States.

- Jacob, in most of Western Europe,

the share of people whosay God is important

has decreased over timesaying that God is irrelevant.

The opposite though istrue in Russia and Ukraine.

Can you explain why that isand expand on those findings?

- So we have in Russia and Ukraine,

we actually have data from 1991,

right when the Sovietunion was collapsing.

And we know in both those countries,

religion has sort of seen a resurgence.

So in those countries,you actually saw a rise

in those who say that thatreligion is important.

But in Western Europe, we'veactually seen a decline

in religiosity over thelast couple decades,

where more and more people in Europe

are either saying that they're agnostic

or they don't believe inanything in particular,

so a secularization in Western Europe

has happened at the sametime that there's been

sort of an increasing religiosity

in some former Soviet Union countries.

- So Jacob, how does that compare overall?

We just kind of focusedon Russia and Ukraine,

but how does this surveycompare to past surveys?

- Well, in past surveys,and this one included,

we see that there's various factors

that go into religiosity.

One thing that is definitelyat play is country wealth.

Typically, as countries get richer,

they actually tend to be less likely

to say that religion is important,

they're less likely tosay that it's necessary

to believe in God in order to be moral,

and we've seen thesepatterns across the countries

that we survey, both in this survey

and in past surveys that we've done.

So country wealth is an important factor

when it comes to religiosity overall,

and generally, those richer countries

tend to be less religious and countries

with less GDP per capitatend to be more religious,

and that holds to this day.

- All right, Jacob Poushterwith the Pew Research Center,

thanks for your time andhelping us understand

this fascinating survey.

- Thank you very much.

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They have their whole lives ahead of them.

Theirs is a world ofendless possibilities.

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- And finally, tonight,despite empty stadium seats

and canned crowd cheersplayed over the sound system,

baseball is back for ashortened 60-game season

and lots of new rules.

Major League teams faced off this weekend

in seven preseason games.

Players and coaches foundunique ways to communicate

and keep things exciting.

The New York Mets used cutouts of fans

to fill seats behind home plate.

And rather than high fives,

the players exchanged airfist bumps after the game.

Thursday is the officialstart of the season,

with the Washington Nationals defending

their World Series titleagainst the Yankees.

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Nats pitcher Max Scherzersaid, "This is 2020 baseball

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Well thank you so much forwatching "Faith Nation."

Have a great night and hopeto see you back here tomorrow.

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