- John, Charlie Kirk isnow one of the founders
of the new Falkirk Centerat liberty University.
You know, Kirk's a Biblebelieving Christian
and he's teamed with Liberty's president,
Jerry Falwell Jr. toeducate and fight back
against the assault onJudeo-Christian values.
So here's some of that interview.
And it was during our visit
to our Faith Nation studios
where he talked about socialism,
Christianity and the riseof atheism in America.
- The fastest growing religionin America is atheism.
And I challenge Christians to be as bold
and evangelistic andpersuasive as atheists are.
And sometimes Christians don't.
And so there's two ways that you can,
it's way over simplified,
but basic two ways Isee Christians dealing
in this atheist world,one, there's a philosophy
that we should be 100%correct theologically,
but go create our own communities
and never talk to anyone externally,
basically becoming pseudomonks in the hills.
The other, which iswhat I like to embrace,
and what Jerry Falwell believes at Liberty
is go forth into the world
understanding you're gonna be persecuted,
you're gonna be called names,
you're gonna lose friends.
Especially getting involvedin civics engagement
and political engagement,
but understanding the fulfillment
of the gospel of Jesus Christ as being the
salt and light that he calls us to be.
And look, our values areunder assault every single day
under a secular, atheist,leftist, Marxist movement
within our government, within our culture,
within higher education,
and our failure to recognize that
and do something about it
might be the end of America.
- By the way, the rise ofsocialism, a huge deal.
By the way, we heard Jesus is a socialist,
I don't know if you heard that.
- Well that's nonsense Ihear that all the time.
- I'm sorry, I saw that.
- I'm happy to debunk that too.
That's total nonsense.
- Why don't you do so
because there's a youngergeneration that's believe this.
- Well the fact that Jesus was anything
except the savior of the world
is preposterous to me.
That somehow he was something
of a working classphilosophy in the mid 1800s,
somehow that's what he was
when 1,800 years earlier he was dying
for our sins and being a lot bigger
than just some political philosopher.
Time and time again,
a couple points,
time and time again Jesus Christ
was given the opportunity toget engaged in government.
He was a much higher caller than that.
Think about it, he's oneof the only people ever
in documented history tohave such a widespread impact
outside of political government influence,
so even if you look at Napoleon,
look at Mohammad, Alexander the Great,
Julius Caesar, thewy workedthrough the instruments
of government.
Jesus was like that's not why I'm here.
Render unto Caesar what is Caesar's,
But I'm above all of it.
Given unto God what is God's.
God's dominion is what we're all under.
But he didn't argue for any sort
of specific governmentstructure intentionally.
Number two, everything he called
as far as helping the poor,Matthew five essentially,
the sermon on the mound, thecharge for us Christians,
it starts and ends withthe individual calling,
not the collective calling.
Super important that you can't
abdicate your own responsibility
to somebody else, to some otherauthority except yourself.
You yourself give up yourcloak and your tunic.
Your yourself turn the other cheek.
Now that's hard because you wanna give up,
oh no, no that's somebodyelse's responsibility.
No, no, no you go help the poor individual
that needs to be clothed,that needs to be fed,
that needs to be taken care of.
That's a called individual,
of individual responsibility.
- All right politics, look,
how does it feel to be the,
basically hated every day by the liberals.
- Great.
(laughing)
I mean I have comfort
in why I believe what I believe.
I get protested from Berkeley,
Stanford, UCLA, UT Austin,
University of Florida.
I just, the hate, I meanI know this sounds silly,
it just doesn't bother me,
I know why I believe what I believe.
I embrace any sort of backlash.
I love discussion.
And look, under the most harsh fires
is where the most amazing iron can be,
can be cast.
And I find that to be definitely the case.
The more I travel, the morekind of protests I get,
the more people I talk to,
the more I understand why I believe
what I believe.
