- [Announcer] Some call him
the Donald Trump of South America.
CBN News sits down foran exclusive interview
with the President of Brazil.
Campaign 2020 is in full swing.
More on the ever growinglist of Democratic hopefuls
who want to take on the President.
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- The President of Brazilmakes his way to America.
Welcome to Faith Nation, I'm John Jessup.
- And I'm Jenna Browder.
Well he is called theTrump of the tropics,
and Brazil's newpresident, Jair Bolsonaro,
has wasted no time rollingback left wing agendas.
- He met with President Trumpyesterday at the White House
and shortly after hisvisit to the Oval Office,
Bolsonaro sat down withCBN's George Thomas
for this exclusive interview.
- [George] Jair Bolsonaro is in America
to tell Donald Trumpthat he has a president
who not only admires him, but is also
a friend of the United States.
- [Interpreter] It is time to overcome
old resistances and explorethe very best potential
between Brazil and the United States.
After all, it is fair to say that today
Brazil does have a presidentthat is not anti-American.
- [George] During atwo hour meeting at the
White House Tuesday,which included a luncheon
and Rose Garden pressconference, the two leaders
signed agreements anddiscussed how to work together
to end the upheaval in Venezuela.
President Trump said Bolsonaro'shistoric election win
marked a new day in Brazil and a new era
in friendship with the United States.
- I want to congratulate you again
on your tremendous election victory.
Last October it was an incredible feat,
and really a truly incredible challenge,
and the end result was something
the whole world was talking about.
- [George] By all accounts,Bolsonaro's inauguration
as Brazil's 38th presidentwas a significant milestone
in the world's fifth largest country.
After years of leftistrule, the 63 year old
former paratrooper turned politician
is the first conservative president
in Brazil's democratic era.
- [Interpreter] My campaigndidn't have a lot of money.
Almost all the media inBrazil was against us,
so it was a huge miracle that we won.
- Now, just 78 days into his presidency,
Bolsonaro is already shaking up
Brazil's political establishment.
Unlike previousadministrations that pursued
an aggressive anti-Americanand anti-Israel foreign policy,
Bolsonaro is pushing for stronger ties
with the United States and Israel,
even announcing shortlyafter winning the presidency
that he intends to movehis country's embassy
from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem.
President Bolsonaro.
- Okay.
- George Thomas, pleasureto meet you, sir.
Welcome to the United States.
Following his meetingwith President Trump,
Bolsonaro sat down foran exclusive interview
with CBN News at Blair House,
located steps from the White House.
Blair House is used forvisiting dignitaries
and foreign heads of state.
You've discussed movingyour country's embassy
from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem.
When is that going to happen,
and why is this important to Brazil?
- [Interpreter] Each country has the right
to decide where its own capital is,
and the capital ofIsrael became Jerusalem.
Therefore we are studying the possibility
of making that decision at the right time.
When Trump took over, ittook him almost nine months
to make the decision, andI am now in my third month.
- [George] Bolsonaro is often referred to
as the Trump of the tropics.
Like President Trump, Bolsonaro believes
the mainstream media is fiercely opposed
to his presidency and agenda,
and Bolsonaro alsoregularly uses social media
to connect directly with his supporters.
- [Interpreter] To a large extent,
I support what Trump does.
He wants to make America great,
and I also want to make Brazil great.
I also have concerns aboutthe indiscriminant entrance
of foreigners without any criteria.
Beyond this, we are bothChristians and are God-fearing men.
(crowd cheering)
- [George] Bolsonaro'smiddle name is Messias,
Portuguese for Messiah.
He is a Catholic and his wife, Michelle,
is a Protestant evangelicalwho attends a Baptist church.
An assassination attempt bya knife-wielding attacker
a month before the electionalmost cost Bolsonaro his life.
He says it is nothing short of a miracle
that he's alive today.
- [Interpreter] Doctors whoattended to me said that
for every 100 stabbingsof the kind I endured,
only one person survives,so I am a survivor,
and owe my life to God.
It was His will for me to live.
- [George] The attackbecame a turning point
in his campaign, as the populist candidate
went on to win, promising to tackle
Brazil's rampant corruption and violence.
Two months into his presidency,
Bolsonaro is shakingBrazil's political world,
even standing up to dictators
like Venezuela's Nicolas Maduro.
Both Bolsonaro and Trump refused to say
whether military plans were on the table
to intervene in Venezuela.
- [Interpreter] I discussedthis matter with Trump,
and obviously that conversationwill remain private.
Trump says all possibilitiesare on the table,
and I, in large part, support decisions
of the American government.
- President of Brazil (foreign language)
- [George] Bolsonarohas surrounded himself
with well-known Brazilian evangelicals
like Pastor Silas Milafaia,who regularly visits
and prays with Bolsonaro.
Silas told CBN News thathe believes Bolsonaro
is God's chosen man to lead Brazil.
- [Interpreter] Even thoughBolsonaro is not an evangelical,
he always defends theprinciples that we evangelicals
have defended, namely,he is against abortion.
He is against the privilegeof the LGBTQ movement.
He recognizes the greatnessand importance of Israel,
defends the family, andwants to fight corruption
and restore our economy.
- On his first official day as president,
Bolsonaro promised to makeJudeo-Christian principles
a top priority in his administration.
Can you talk about the impact
that decades of leftist ideology has had
on the social andspiritual fabric of Brazil?
- [Interpreter] The ideologyof the left has taken over
the universities and alsothe journalists of Brazil.
The impact has been the worst possible,
and one of the main goalsis to erode family values.
- [George] It was thiskind of message that drove
the majority of Brazil'sevangelicals to support Bolsonaro.
- [Interpreter] The evangelicalsof Brazil are equivalent
to a third of thepopulation and are growing.
I had massive support from them,
because until recentlythey had no one to support
who shared their values and faith.
- Your motto is Brazil above everything.
What do you mean by that?
- [Interpreter] 28years, and I saw that in
never existed, and my feeling
to know the truth.
- His favorite Bible verse is John 8:32.
Then you will know the truth
and the truth will set you free.
Why is faith so importantto you, Mr. President?
- [Interpreter] Just like in a marriage
between a man and a woman,if you don't have truth,
the marriage ends quickly.
In politics, if you don't have truth,
the government ends quickly.
- After our interview, President Bolsonaro
met with a group of prominentAmerican evangelical leaders.
Among them, the ChristianBroadcasting Network's
Dr. Pat Robertson and Gordon Robertson,
and evangelist Ryan Reinhard Bonnke.
The American delegationprayed for Bolsonaro
and promised to standwith his administration
as he fights to protect Brazil's
Christian heritage and family values.
They also pledged to help Brazil provide
humanitarian relief forthose suffering in Venezuela.
Why is this meeting importantto you, Mr. President?
- [Interpreter] I recognize the work
evangelicals do in mycountry, which is no different
to what they do around theworld, sharing the Word of God
and strengthening family values.
- Thanks, George, and joining us now
is Bishop Harry Jackson,pastor of Hope Christian Church
just outside of Washington, D.C.
Bishop Jackson, thankyou for being with us.
We know that you were in theroom with evangelical leaders
and President Bolsonaro yesterday.
Why was it so importantfor you to be there,
and what was it that you and the group
wanted to communicate to him?
- Well, I think we wanted to communicate
support for his views.
He's pro life, pro family,also he's pro Israel,
which is pretty amazing,and he stated with us
out of deep, sincere faith,that two miracles occurred.
You've covered some of them already.
One was that he surviveda near death attack,
and Brazil is noted forthe high murder rate.
Maybe you don't really realize.
As many other South American countries,
there's a violent back drop.
Then secondly he received80% of the Catholic
and 80% of the evangelicalvotes, so he seems to be,
and he quoted Scripture, SaintJohn chapter eight verse 32
it says, "You shall know the truth
"and the truth shall make you free."
He said as he covered thecountry and shared the truth
as he understood it aboutwhere his nation was
and God's way, in a sense, out,
the people that heard it responded.
That's how he won.
We were there to say we offer support.
Some of the pastors are going to work on
humanitarian and evangelistic support.
There were words by ReinhardBonnke that were amazing,
talking about people comingto Christ by the millions
in a country if we have faith.
He seemed to be open to all of that.
Then there were other players,without going too long winded
who I believe could help himorganize for future victory.
As you know Pat Robertson hasexperience in all those areas,
ran for president, organizedin national political parties,
understands how to do outreachto the least of these,
so we became like an assembled team
that says hey, we'llhelp you turn your nation
into a sheep nation.
- Yeah. Bishop Jackson,what was your impression
of Bolsonaro, just being up close to him?
- Well, I'll be very, very honest.
I was very impressed.
As he came in, I wasone of the first people
that he greeted, and hissincerity, genuineness
seemed to be almost tangible.
But you also had that military bearing
in a sense of you couldfeel a sense of courage
and a sense that thisman was an ambassadorial
kind of figure, stands onprinciples and very brave.
- Real quickly here,you spent time praying
with the Brazilian delegationand for the president himself.
What was it that you guys prayed for
and why is it importantfor us not just to pray for
our national leaders, butfor leaders around the world?
- Well, we really prayedfor the peace of his nation.
Pat Robertson led us corporately in prayer
for the salvation,evangelization of the nation.
I believe that national reformation
is the thing we should be seeking God for,
but there's a new alignment of
light versus dark around the world.
I think it has to do withwhether you're pro life or not
in the nations, and also strangely,
whether you're pro Israel, if you believe
that Israel has a right even to exist.
So this man is courageous on those fronts
and it's exciting to be supportive of him.
- Bishop Jackson, thankyou so much for your time.
- Thank you, John.
- Well turning to the2020 election, one issue
making headlines as Democratskick off their campaigns,
changing the way Americanselect our president.
Among the proposed changes,
abolishing the Electoral College.
- We can have national voting,
and that means get ridof the Electoral College.
- [Jenna] It was the ElectoralCollege vote that gave
Donald Trump the victoryover Hillary Clinton in 2016.
Clinton won the popular vote.
- President Trump seemsto be in a Twitter fight
with the husband of one ofhis top White House officials.
George Conway is the husbandof Kelly Anne Conway.
He has long been a vocalcritic of the president,
but now the two are goingafter each other on Twitter.
Earlier this week, Conwaytweeted he believes
the President has amental health disorder,
even linking to guidelines from diagnoses
used by medical professionals.
Well, the President isfighting back today,
tweeting George Conway,often referred to as
Mr. Kelly Anne Conwayby those who know him,
is very jealous of his wife's success
and angry that I, with her help,
didn't give him the jobhe so desperately wanted.
I barely know him, but just take a look.
Stone cold loser and husband from hell.
Conway replied to the Presidentwith just three words.
You are nuts.
- Ooh, ouch, okay.
Well Julia Manchester withThe Hill joins us now.
Julia, great to have you.
Thanks for being here.
- Thank you for having me.
- What do you make of this back and forth
between the President and George Conway?
- Yeah, well it's interesting.
We've seen this story kindof bubbling over the past,
I guess, couple of months,more than a couple of months.
You know, we see that GeorgeConway is very popular
in conservative circles,along with Kelly Anne.
However, ever since theMueller investigation
really started to play out,we've seen that Conway,
who's a lawyer, hasrecently really stepped up
his criticism of President Trump,
and I think it all justcame to a head this week
when the President responded on Twitter.
In a strange way, I think this is almost
a good thing for KellyAnne, because it gives her
an opportunity to prove herloyalty to President Trump,
and we know that loyalty is something
that the President putsquite a bit of stock in.
- Prove loyalty, but alsostrange to parse that
with this is your husband andbeing loyal to the President.
- Interesting dinnertime conversation.
- Yeah, I would only imagine.
So the President's also being criticized
for tweets that he made onthe late Senator John McCain
saying that he was never a fan.
Why can't he seem to let this go?
- You know, I think the President
is a fighter in a way, and Ithink this is his own way of,
in a way, exerting dominanceover the Republican party.
If we really delve into this,if you look at Lindsey Graham,
Lindsey Graham heads theSenate Judiciary Committee,
very good friend of the late Senator's,
and the Senate JudiciaryCommittee is obviously
tied into all of theseinvestigations in a way
that are happening in the House.
It's kind of the mirror image of that,
so this may be PresidentTrump in a strange sort of way
sending a signal toRepublicans on Capitol Hill,
who have rebuked him inthe past couple of days,
whether it has been on his foreign policy
or a couple of other resolutions.
- Switching gears here, inan interview with NBC News,
Representative JamesClyburn, he drew a comparison
between Hitler and President Trump.
Julia, does this kind of extreme rhetoric,
is it helpful forDemocrats, or do you think
it could backfire againstthem if they're not careful?
- Right, so I think the numberone rule in public relations
people are often taught, is don't bring
Hitler or Nazis into the conversation.
I think this absolutely could backfire
for Representative Clyburn.
I don't think it's necessarily helpful
in the on-going discussion insuch a partisan environment
in Washington, and I thinkessentially, you know,
this could play into thePresident's hands in a way.
He could say, well, thisman compared me to Hitler.
It gives him a direct line ofattack onto House Democrats,
who he already has a very tenserelationship with right now.
- Real quickly onto the2020 Presidential race,
the Wall Street Journal isreporting that Joe Biden
told supporters he wantsto run or he will run,
but needs fundraising, buthe's also trying to make sure
he makes a mark kindof like Bernie Sanders
and Beto O'Rourke when they announced.
How big of an issue is thefundraising issue for him?
- We're actually hearingfrom a lot of Democrats
and those in Biden's innercircle that fundraising
is proving to be a bitof an issue for him,
and that Biden may havesome anxieties about that.
We saw that Bernie Sanders, Beto O'Rourke
have really come out swinging
with these small dollar donations.
Let's not forget thatBeto O'Rourke was able
to get national donors in hisTexas senate race last year,
and I think Biden is a little on edge
because the progressive wing of the party
is really on fire supportingpeople like Bernie Sanders,
but Biden has always beenseen as a centrist Democrat.
- Of the crowded Democratic field, Julia,
who else are you keeping an eye on?
- I think Kamala Harris at this point.
She has also fundraised quite a bit.
She's had a near flawlessroll out, if you will,
coming out on Martin LutherKing day with that video,
scoring a CNN Town Hall, thefirst Democratic candidate,
I believe, to get thatsort of exposure this year.
She's also a woman of color,and I think that speaks
to a lot of Democratic voters who are
looking for more diversity.
- Julia Manchester with The Hill,
thank you so much for being with us.
- Thank you.
- [Jenna] Well, the Secretary of State
is in the Middle East, and CBNNews is right there with him.
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- Well at the top of theshow we brought to you
that exclusive interviewwith the President of Brazil,
and during the report, GeorgeThomas mentioned the prayer
that Pat Robertson prayedover President Bolsonaro.
- That's right, and tonightwe want to leave you
with a little bit of that prayer.
- All right, that's going todo it for Faith Nation tonight.
- Have a great night,and see you tomorrow.
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