On this week's edition of The Watchman, we sit down with terrorism expert Patrick Poole to discuss the "known wolf" phenomenon in Western jihadi attacks. We're also joined by director Nolan Lebovitz for a look at his new film ...
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Erick: AND WELCOME TO
THE WATCHMAN.
"WELL, 2015 IS STILL VERY"
"YOUNG, AND WE'VE ALREADY"
SEEN A STRING OF ISLAMIC
TERRORIST ATTACKS HERE ON
WESTERN SOIL.
WE'VE SEEN JIHADISTS
"MASSACRE PEOPLE IN PARIS,"
"IN COPENHAGEN, DENMARK."
AND WE'VE HAD A MAJOR
TERRORIST CELL BROKEN UP
"IN BELGIUM, AND WE'VE HAD"
SOME ISIS-RELATED TERROR
ARRESTS RIGHT HERE ON U.S.
SOIL.
"NOW, MOST OF THE TIME WHEN"
THESE ATTACKS HAPPEN HERE
"IN THE WEST, THE"
MAINSTREAM MEDIA SAYS
"THESE ARE ""LONE WOLVES,"""
LIKE THEY JUST APPEARED
OUT OF NOWHERE TO CARRY
OUT ACTS OF CARNAGE.
WHAT IF THESE ARE ACTUALLY
KNOWN WOLVES.
THAT IS THE TERM QUOTED BY
"PATRICK, WHO IS AN EXPERT"
ON JIHAD AND RADICAL
"ISLAM, AND A REGULAR"
JOURNALIST FOR P.J.
MEDIA.COM.
TAKE A LOOK AT MY
INTERVIEW WITH PATRICK
POOLE TALKING ABOUT THE
KNOWN WOLVES THAT ARE IN
YOUR BACKYARD.
"PATRICK POOLE, WELCOME"
BACK MY FRIEND.
IT IS ALWAYS GREAT TO HAVE
YOU HERE AND GET YOUR
INSIGHTS.
ESPECIALLY NOW.
WE'RE COMING OUT OF THE
ASHES OF THIS HORRIFIC
ATTACK IN PARIS.
WE'RE SEEING ARREST AFTER
"ARREST, IT SEEMS, IN"
EUROPE AND THE UNITED
STATES.
A LOT OF PEOPLE HAVE
"DUBBED THIS THE ""LONE"
"WOLF"" SYNDROME."
BUT YOU'VE COME UP WITH A
"NEW TERM TO IDENTIFY THEM,"
KNOWN WOLVES.
TALK ABOUT THAT A LITTLE
BIT.
"WHAT IS A ""KNOWN WOLF,"""
WHEN IT COMES TO ISLAMIC
JIHAD.
" ERICK, WHAT WE'VE SEEN"
"IN THESE TERROR INCIDENTS,"
GOING BACK TO EVEN THE
"9/11 ATTACKS, IS THAT TIME"
AND TIME AGAIN THESE
"TERROR ATTACKS, WHETHER IT"
"IS IN THE UNITED STATES,"
"CANADA, THE SYDNEY GUY IN"
"AUSTRALIA LAST MONTH, THE"
PARIS ATTACKS -- IN ALL OF
THESE CASES THESE WERE
INDIVIDUALS WHO WERE
ALREADY KNOWN TO LAW
ENFORCEMENTS.
AND SUFFICIENT ACTION
WASN'T TAKEN AGAINST THEM
TO BE ABLE TO PREVENT THEM
FROM KILLING CITIZENS.
"FOR INSTANCE, IN THE"
"SYDNEY HOSTAGE SITUATION,"
SHEIKH HURON WAS OUT ON
BAIL ON TWO SEPARATE
CHARGES.
HE HAD ALREADY BEEN
CONVICTED OF HARASSING THE
WIDOWS OF AUSTRALIAN
SOLDIERS WHO WERE KILLED
IN COMBAT IN AFGHANISTAN.
"YOU KNOW, HE WAS A"
WELL-KNOWN EXTREMIST
FIGURE IN AUSTRALIA.
AND HE HAD EVEN SAID
PREVIOUSLY THAT HE WAS
GOING TO STAGE A PROTEST
"IN MARTIN PLACE, WHICH WAS"
"WHERE THIS SHOP WAS, AND"
THAT'S WHERE HE TOOK THE
HOSTAGE.
Erick: AND KILLED TWO
HOSTAGES.
YEAH.
AND GOING BACK TO THE TWO
INCIDENCES IN CANADA IN
"OCTOBER, TWO SEPARATE"
"INCIDENTS WITHIN A WALK,"
MOST NOTABLY THE ATTACK ON
PARLIAMENT HILL --
Erick: AND OUTSIDE OF
MONTREAL.
AND IN BOTH OF THOSE
"CASES, THOSE TWO"
INDIVIDUALS HAD THEIR
PASSPORTS PULLED BY THE
ROYAL CANADIAN MOUNTED
POLICE BECAUSE OF THEIR
KNOWN TERRORIST
SYMPATHIES.
"AND IN THOSE TWO CASES,"
YOU HAD INDIVIDUALS DEAD.
AND YOU HAD A GUN FIGHT IN
THE HALLS OF PARLIAMENT IN
CANADA.
AND SO WITH THE DIRECT
ATTACK ON FREE SPEECH IN
PARIS THAT WE SAW ON
"CHARLIE HEBDO, AND THE "
FACT THAT IT WAS OVER
"SEVERAL DAYS -- YOU KNOW,"
IT WAS A SITUATION THAT
CONTINUED THROUGHOUT THE
"WEEK, SO THE NEWS CYCLE"
WAS NOT ABLE TO BURY THE
STORY.
IT WAS A DIRECT ATTACK ON
FREE SPEECH.
IT CONTINUED FOR SEVERAL
DAYS.
I THINK IT REALLY CAPTURED
A LOT OF PEOPLE'S
ATTENTION AND THESE PAST
INCIDENTS KIND OF HAVE
INCREASED PEOPLE'S
AWARENESS OF THE DEGREE OF
THE PROBLEM.
PLUS ISIS.
Erick: YES.
ISIS IN THE PARIS ATTACKS
ARE SOMEWHAT OF A TIPPING
"POINT IN THAT REGARD,"
PATRICK.
THIS IS FRUSTRATING.
THESE ARE HARDENED ISLAMIC
TERRORISTS WHO HAVE KILLED
"PEOPLE, WHO HAVE EUROPEAN,"
"CANADA, AUSTRALIAN,"
AMERICAN BLOOD ON THEIR
HANDS.
AND THEY WERE ON THE LAW
ENFORCEMENT AUTHORITY'S
RADAR SCREENS BEFORE THEY
CARRIED OUT THESE ATTACKS.
WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS
THESE ATTACKS POSSIBLY
COULD HAVE BEEN PREVENTED.
ABSOLUTELY.
Erick: HOW IS THIS
HAPPENING?
THEY'RE ON THE RADAR
SCREEN AND SLIDING OFF THE
SCREEN AND CARRYING OUT
JIHADI ATTACKS.
HOW IS THIS HAPPENING?
REALLY TWO THINGS:
AUTHORITIES ARE NOT ABLE
TO LOOK AT THE IDEOLOGICAL
DRIVERS.
"THIS ADMINISTRATION, AS"
"YOU KNOW, AND AS USED"
"REPORTED ON, THE"
ADMINISTRATION HAS
COMPLETELY BANNED ANY
DISCUSSION OF THE
"IDEOLOGICAL DRIVERS, AND"
YOU CAN'T LOOK AT THE
SUPPORT NETWORKS.
TWO PERFECT CASES HERE INT
UNITED STATES.
"THE BOSTON BOMBING, WHICH"
"YOU REPORTED ON, WHERE THE"
RUSSIAN F.S.B.WENT TO THE
"F.B.I. NOT ONCE, BUT TWICE"
ABOUT TAMERLAN TSARNAEV.
AND SO THE RUSSIANS WARNED
US TWICE ABOUT TAMERLAN
TSARNAEV --
Erick: ONE OF THE
BOMBERS.
" AND THE F.B.I., BY"
"THEIR OWN ADMISSION, SAID,"
"WELL, THEY INTERVIEWED AND"
"THEY COULDN'T FIND, YOU"
"KNOW, A NOTE OF"
RADICALIZATION.
"BUT AS WE KNOW, HE WAS"
GOING TO THE ISLAMIC
"SOCIETY OF BOSTON, WHICH"
WAS FOUNDED BY AN
al-QAEDA FUNDRAISER --
Erick: MUSLIM
BROTHERHOOD-CONNECTED.
YEAH.
"AND SEVERAL TERRORISTS,"
"LIKE TERIK MAHANA, AND NOW"
"AHMAD ABOUSAMRA, ALL CAME"
OUT OF THAT MOSQUE.
"AND THE F.B.I. SAID, WE"
COULDN'T FIND A NOTE.
AND RIGHT THERE IT WAS.
Erick: AND ONE OF THE
MOST NOTORIOUS LONE WOLF
IS NADAL HUSAN.
"TELL US ABOUT THAT, THE"
FORT HOOD INCIDENT.
IN CASE OF THE FORT
"HOOD INCIDENT, THE F.B.I."
"WAS WATCHING IN REALTIME,"
AS HE WAS IN COMMUNICATION
WITH A al-QAEDA IN
YEMEN.
THEY WANTED TO OPEN A CASE
"ON MAJOR NADAL HASAN, AND"
THE F.B.I. HEADQUARTERS
CAME DOWN AND SHUT DOWN
THE INVESTIGATION.
WHEN IT BECAME AWARE THAT
THE F.B.I. WAS AWARE OF
"THIS LONE WOLF, THEY SAID,"
"LOOK, WE LOOKED AT THE"
E-MAIL CORRESPONDENCE AND
IT WAS IN ACCORDANCE WITH
HIS RESEARCH AND STUDIES
AT WALTER REED HOSPITAL.
"FOUR YEARS LATER, WHEN WE"
GET TO SEE THE TEXT OF
"THESE E-MAILS, ONE OF HIS"
LAST E-MAILS WAS TALKING
ABOUT DOING A SUICIDE
BOMBING AND KILLING ENEMY
SOLDIERS.
Erick: AND THIS
E-MAIL WAS FROM NADAL
HASAN TO ANWAR
"al-AWLAKI, AN al-QAEDA"
"CLERIC, WHO WAS ASKING FOR"
ADVICE IS IT OKAY TO KILL
AMERICAN SOLDIERS IN
"SUICIDE BOMBINGS, AND THIS"
DIDN'T RAISE RED FLAGS?
APPARENTLY NOT.
AND THEN YOU HAVE 13 DEAD
AMERICANS AND OTHERS
INJURED IN FORT HOOD.
Erick: THIS IS
MADDENING.
"WE HAVE FORT HOOD, A KNOWN"
WOLF.
AND ONE OF THE BOSTON
"BOMBERS, A KNOWN WOLF."
I THINK ONE OF THE MOST
NOTORIOUS CASE WAS PARIS.
WE JUST SAW THE PARIS
ATTACKS.
THE BROTHERS THAT KILLED
"12 PEOPLE AT ""CHARLIE"
"HEBDO,"" INCLUDING TWO"
"POLICE OFFICERS, THEY WERE"
ON THE RADAR OF THE LAW
ENFORCEMENT.
ONE OF THE BROTHERS HAD
BEEN IN PRISON FOR HIS
ROLE IN FUNDING JIHAD IRAQ
TO KILL AMERICANS.
Erick: AND RELEASED
"EARLY, BY THE WAY."
" YEAH, HE ONLY SERVED"
HALF OF HIS SENTENCE.
AND THEY WERE ON THE RADAR
AGAIN WHEN THEY WERE
PLOTTING A JAIL BREAK OF A
NOTORIOUS JIHADIST.
AND THE U.S. HAD BOTH
BROTHERS ON THE NO-FLY
LIST --
Erick: AND THE U.K.
"DID, TOO."
SO THERE WAS NO SECRET
WHO THESE GUYS WERE.
THEY WERE A JIHADI
ATTACK WAITING TO HAPPEN
ON FRENCH SOIL.
AND THEY HAD BEEN IN
YEMEN.
AND THEY HAD BEEN IN
"YEMEN, AND IT LOOKS LIKE"
THEY MIGHT HAVE BEEN
PASSED BY al-QAEDA IN
THE ARABIAN PENINSULA.
SO IT REMAINS TO BE SEEN
WHAT WESTERN AUTHORITIES
ARE -- HOW THEY'RE GOING
TO RESPOND TO THESE SERIES
OF ATTACKS?
ARE THEY GOING TO BEGIN TO
TAKE SERIOUSLY THE
IDEOLOGICAL DRIVERS?
OF COURSE WE HAVE ALL OF
THESE TERRORISM EXPERTS
"LITTERING WASHINGTON, D.C."
AND THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO
WITH IDEOLOGY.
IT'S BECAUSE HIS DAD
DIDN'T HUG HIM ENOUGH.
Erick: YEAH.
WE HAVE ALL OF THESE
EXPERTS WHO HAVE NO
TRAINING IN PSYCHIATRY.
Erick: THERE CAN'T BE
ANY THEOLOGICAL CONNECTION
BETWEEN ISLAMIC TERRORISM
WHATSOEVER.
YEAH.
AND ARE WE GOING TO BE
ABLE TO ALLOW LAW
ENFORCEMENT TO LOOK AT
THESE NOTES?
LIKE THE ISLAMIC SOCIETY
OF BOSTON.
Erick: THE RISE OF
"ISIS, IT HAS BEEN A GAME"
"CHANGER, IT SEEMS, IN"
TERMS OF THIS HOMEGROWN
JIHAD.
"IS THAT WE'RE SEEING, THAT"
THE ISLAMIC STATE HAS
GALVANIZED A WHOLE NEW
"GENERATION, AND MAYBE EVEN"
SOME UNLIKELY FOLKS TO
JOIN THE JIHAD?
ABSOLUTELY.
WE SEE THESE
ADMINISTRATION REPORTS
"WHERE, OH, WE KILLED 40 OR"
100 ISIS FIGHTERS.
"THERE ARE 1,000 ISIS"
FIGHTERS GOING OVER THE
"BORDER, THE TURKISH-SYRIAN"
BORDER TO JOIN ISIS EVERY
"MONTH, REPORTEDLY."
SO THEY ARE FILLING
THROUGH RANKS FASTER THAN
WE CAN KILL THEM WITH WHAT
WE'RE CURRENTLY DOING.
AND WE SEE THEIR
"PROPAGANDA, WHETHER IT IS"
THERE AT THEIR ENGLISH
"LANGUAGE MAGAZINE, OR"
THESE PROPAGANDA VIDEOS
THEY PUT OUT.
THEY'RE TARGETING WESTERN
RECRUITS AND TELLING THEM
"TO KILL WESTERNERS,"
"POLICE, ETC., HERE IN THE"
WEST.
Erick: RANDOM
ATTACKS.
RANDOM BEHEADINGS.
SOMEONE IS WALKING TO WORK
IN THE MORNING AND THEY'RE
SNATCHED OFF THE STREET
AND BEHEADED.
BASICALLY GUERRILLA WAR IN
SOME RESPECTS ON WESTERN
"SOIL IS THE ULTIMATE GOAL,"
IT SEEMS.
"PATRICK, WE CAN'T THANK"
YOU ENOUGH.
CHECK OUT HIS WORK.
"UP NEXT, ABRAHAM, ISAAC,"
"AND JACOB, NOAH'S ARK,"
ADAM AND EVE -- WHY DOES
IT STILL MATTER TODAY?
WE SPEAK TO A PRODUCER.
STICK AROUND.
Erick: WELCOME BACK.
"WELL, A LOT OF PEOPLE SAY"
THE BIBLE DOESN'T MATTER
"TODAY, THAT IT IS JUST AN"
ARCHAIC COLLECTION OF OLD
WRITINGS THAT HAVE NO
BEARING ON OUR LIVES IN
THE YEAR 2015.
"WELL, A NEW FILM CALLED"
"ROADMAP GENESIS, THE MAP "
OTHERWISE.
WE'RE JOINED BY ITS
"DIRECTOR, NOLAN LIEBOWITZ."
GREAT TO HAVE YOU.
THANK YOU FOR HAVING
ME.
Erick: YOU CAME HERE
AND INTERVIEWED ME IN
"WASHINGTON, D.C., AND I"
"MADE MANY DIVA DEMANDS, WE"
HAD A TRAILER SET UP --
" NO, NO, NOT AT ALL."
Erick: IT WAS GREAT
SPENDING TIME WITH YOU AND
GETTING TO SEE YOUR HEART.
YOU TOLD ME ABOUT YOUR
FAITH JOURNEY WHEN WE
SPENT TIME TOGETHER DURING
THE INTERVIEW.
"BUT TELL ME, FIRST OF ALL,"
HOW YOU CAME UP WITH THIS
GREAT IDEA.
TELL ME HOW YOU CAME UP
"WITH THE IDEA OF ""ROADMAP"
"GENESIS."""
I WAS A HOLLYWOOD
FILM-MAKER AND I MADE REAL
HOLLYWOOD MOVIES.
AND SONY RELEASED MY LAST
"ONE CALLED ""TORTURE,"" AND"
IT STARRED LAWRENCE
FISHBURNE IN 2008.
I WOKE UP ONE MORNING
AFTER I HAD GOTTEN MARRIED
AND AFTER I HAD MY
"DAUGHTER, AND THE WORLD"
JUST DIDN'T LOOK THE SAME
WAY TO ME AS IT HAD
BEFORE.
I TOLD MY WIFE I WAS GOING
TO STUDY TO BECOME A
RABBI.
AND THAT WAS THE BEGINNING
OF MY JOURNEY.
THE JOURNEY HAD LED ME TO
LIVING IN ISRAEL LAST
"YEAR, AND IT LED ME TO"
THIS MOVIE.
BECAUSE EVERY DAY I WOULD
BASICALLY COME HOME FROM
RABBINICAL SCHOOL AND TELL
"MY WIFE, WE JUST READ THE"
MOST AMAZING THING IN
"SCHOOL, AND I SHOULD"
TOTALLY MAKE A MOVIE.
"AND SHE WAS TELL ME, TAKE"
IT EASY.
JUST GO LEARN AND KEEP
THESE IDEAS TO OURSELVES
UNTIL YOU REALLY HIT A
GOOD ONE.
Erick: BY THE WAY --
SORRY TO INTERRUPT YOU.
WHAT WAS YOUR WIFE'S
INITIAL REACTION.
YOU'RE THIS HOLLYWOOD
FILM-MAKER AND YOU COME
"HOME AND SAY, I WANT TO BE"
A RABBI.
WHAT WAS YOUR WIFE'S
REACTION TO THAT?
" STUNNED, TO BE TOTALLY"
HONEST.
BUT I THINK THAT -- I SAY
"IT IN THE MOVIE, THE"
JOURNEY WOULD NOT HAVE
BEEN POSSIBLE WITHOUT HER.
THIS IS A JOURNEY WE'VE
"TAKEN TOGETHER, WITH OUR"
KIDS.
AND I THINK IT HAS MADE IT
ALL THE MORE MEANINGFUL
BECAUSE OF IT.
"BECAUSE, LISTEN, I WOULD"
"STUDY HEBREW, BIBLICAL"
GRAMMAR BY READING THE
BOOK OF GENESIS TO MY SON
WHEN HE WAS AN INFANT.
"IN FULL DISCLOSURE, HE"
WOULD FALL ASLEEP.
BUT IT IS PART OF THE BOND
I HAVE WITH MY CHILDREN.
NOW WHEN I READ THE TORAH
TO THEM OR THE FIVE BOOKS
OF MOSES EVERY SATURDAY
MORNING AND WE READ THE
"STORIES AND TALK ABOUT IT,"
THEY'RE PART OF IT.
"AND I DO IT FOR THEM, MORE"
THAN I DO IT FOR MYSELF.
Erick: AND YOU CAN
SEE THESE FAMILY BONDS
"THAT YOU MENTIONED, NOLAN,"
AND I THINK THEY REALLY
SHINE THROUGH IN THE FILM.
"TALK ABOUT WHAT ""GENESIS"""
MEANS TO YOU PERSONALLY.
YOU'RE GOING TO RABBINICAL
SCHOOL AND YOU'RE IN
"JERUSALEM, AND THERE WAS"
THIS PROFOUND CONNECTION
YOU MADE WITH THE BOOK OF
GENESIS.
TALK ABOUT THAT CONNECTION
AND WHAT THE BOOK OF
GENESIS MEANS TO YOU?
IN THE BEGINNINGS OF
"THIS PROJECT, THE IDEA WAS"
MAYBE I DO A MOVIE ABOUT
ALL FIVE BOOKS.
MAYBE I DO A MOVIE ABOUT
THE ENTIRE BIBLE.
BUT THE TRUTH IS YOU CAN'T
MAKE A MOVIE ABOUT
ANYTHING REGARDING THE
BIBLE UNLESS YOU ADDRESS
THE VERY BEGINNING.
IF YOU CAN'T TRUST THE
"BEGINNING OF THE BIBLE,"
THEN YOU CAN'T TRUST THE
REST OF THE BIBLE.
IF YOU CAN'T APPRECIATE
IT -- AND MY APPRECIATION
"FOR GENESIS, AS A YOUNG"
"FATHER, WAS OFF THE"
CHARTS.
BECAUSE YOU CAN FINALLY
UNDERSTAND THE STORIES I
BELIEVE THE WAY THEY'RE
SUPPOSED TO BE UNDERSTOOD
WHEN YOU HAVE CHILDREN.
WHEN YOU'RE A SON AND WHEN
"YOU HAVE A CHILD, LIKE I"
"WAS, YOU UNDERSTAND WHAT"
IT MEANS TO BE A CREATOR.
WHAT IT MEANS TO BE A
HUSBAND.
WHAT IT MEANS TO BE A
FATHER.
WHAT IT MEANS TO BE A
NEIGHBOR.
Erick: THAT IS SO
TRUE.
WE'VE GOT TO STOP RIGHT
THERE.
WE'RE HEADING TO A
"COMMERCIAL, BUT MUCH MORE"
COMING UP AFTER THE BREAK
"WITH NOLAN LIEBOWITZ, THE"
DIRECTOR OF A GREAT NEW
"DOCUMENTARY, ""ROADMAP"
"GENESIS."""
MUCH MORE AFTER THE BREAK.
DON'T LEAVE.
STAY TUNED.
¶¶¶
Erick: AND WELCOME
BACK.
WE'RE TALKING TO NOLAN
"LIEBOWITZ, DIRECTOR OF A"
GREAT NEW FILM CALLED
"ROADMAP GENESIS, THE MAP "
"NOLAN, ONE OF THE THINGS I"
LOVE ABOUT THE FILM IS YOU
INTERVIEW BOTH CHRISTIAN
AND JEWISH LEADERS.
YOU MENTIONED BEFORE THE
"BREAK, YOU CAN'T REALLY"
UNDERSTAND THE ENTIRE
"BIBLE, BELIEVE THE BIBLE,"
UNLESS YOU BELIEVE AND
"UNDERSTAND THE BEGINNING,"
"WHERE IT ALL STARTS,"
GENESIS.
TALK ABOUT BRINGING
CHRISTIAN AND JEWISH
LEADERS TOGETHER FOR THIS
FILM.
I JUST FINISHED A ROUND
"OF TRAVEL IN THIS COUNTRY,"
WHERE I WALKED IN AND
SCREENED THE MOVIE IN
EVANGELICAL CHURCHES
"ACROSS ORLANDO, DALLAS,"
"ATLANTA, PHOENIX, ALL IN A"
WEEK.
I WOKE UP EVERY DAY IN A
DIFFERENT CITY.
AND I WALKED INTO AN
EVANGELICAL CHURCH IN
"ORLANDO, SCREENED THE"
"MOVIE, AND A WOMAN STOOD"
"UP AND SAID TO ME, EVERY"
SUNDAY I PRAY FOR THE
"JEWISH PEOPLE IN ISRAEL,"
AND YOU'RE THE FIRST RABBI
WHO HAS EVER WALKED INTO
THIS CHURCH.
I COULDN'T BELIEVE IT.
IN THAT WAY THE MOVIE HAS
BEEN A BLESSING.
IT HAS BEEN A BLESSING
BECAUSE HAS AFFORDED ME
THE OPPORTUNITY TO MEET SO
MANY INCREDIBLE PEOPLE
ACROSS THE COUNTRY.
"AND JEWS AND CHRISTIANS,"
WE'RE LIKE FIRST COUSINS
WHO DON'T SPEAK ENOUGH.
THAT'S THE TRUTH.
IF THIS MOVIE HELPS A
"CONVERSATION, IF IT HELPS"
"BUILD BRIDGES, WHICH IS"
REALLY WHAT IT IS SUPPOSED
"TO DO, IF IT CAN"
ACCOMPLISH ITS GOAL OF
"BUILDING THAT BRIDGE, TO"
BRING US BACK TO THE TABLE
"TOGETHER, IT WILL HAVE"
BEEN MISSION ACCOMPLISHED.
Erick: IN THE LEAD-IN
"TO OUR INTERVIEW, A LOT OF"
"PEOPLE THINK, LOOK, THE"
BOOK OF GENESIS IS NOT
RELEVANT TODAY.
THE BIBLE IS NOT RELEVANT
TODAY.
"RIGHT NOW WE HAVE ISIS,"
AND IRAN DRIVING FOR A
"NUCLEAR WEAPON, CIVIL"
UNREST IN MANY COUNTRIES.
HOW IS GENESIS RELEVANT
TODAY TO EVERYTHING THAT
IS GOING ON IN THE WORLD
RIGHT NOW?
" THE TORAH, THE BIBLE,"
IT'S THE ANTEDOTE.
I KNOW THAT SOUNDS LIKE AN
EXAGGERATION.
BUT THE CHILDREN OF THESE
"INSANE FANATICS, OF THESE"
"MUSLIM EXTREMISTS, THEY'RE"
SUPER PROUD OF WHAT THEY
"LEARN, AND THEY HOLD THESE"
BELIEFS TO TRUE.
AND OUR CHILDREN GO TO
"SCHOOL, AND OUR CHILDREN"
"QUESTION EVERYTHING,"
INCLUDING THE FOUNDATION
UPON WHICH THIS COUNTRY
WAS FOUNDED.
GOD IS THERE AT THE
BEGINNING OF THE FOUNDING
"OF THIS COUNTRY, AND YET"
CHILDREN ARE DISCOURAGED
TO DISCUSS GOD IN THE
SCHOOLS TODAY IN AMERICA.
AND THIS TODAY IS THE
DILEMMA.
IT IS OUR DILEMMA.
HOW DO WE RAISE OUR
CHILDREN TO FACE THE WORLD
AS IT IS?
NOT THE WAY IT SHOULD BE.
NOT THE WAY WE WOULD LIKE
"IT TO BE, BUT THE WAY THAT"
IT IS.
THE WAY IT IS IS A HARSH
"PLACE, WHERE PEOPLE WILL"
"CHALLENGE THEM LITERALLY,"
"PHYSICALLY, MILITARILY --"
JEWS AND CHRISTIANS ARE
BEING SLAUGHTERED ACROSS
"THE MIDDLE EAST, AND THE"
BIBLE BRINGS US BACK TO A
PLACE WHERE WE UNDERSTAND
WHO WE ARE AND WHAT OUR
MISSION AND THE WORLD IS.
I THINK THAT THE BOOK OF
GENESIS REALLY ACTS LIKE
THE ROADMAP.
ROADMAP GENESIS IS NOT
ONLY JUST THE NAME.
IT IS THE WAY I BELIEVE MY
OWN CHILDREN SHOULD BE
EDUCATED.
Erick: YOU TALK ABOUT
"THE HARDSHIP, AND IT IS A"
"CRUEL WORLD IN MANY TIMES,"
ESPECIALLY FOR JEWS AND
CHRISTIANS IN THE MIDDLE
EAST.
YOU LOOK AT THE STORIES OF
RESILIENCE IN THE BOOK OF
GENESIS.
"ABRAHAM, ISAAC, JACOB,"
"NOAH'S ARK, AND IT GOES ON"
AND ON.
STORIES OF OVERCOMING
"GREAT ODDS, GREAT"
"OBEDIENCE, AND TRUST IN"
GOD.
I THINK IT IS JUST
INCREDIBLE.
YOU HIT ON ALL OF THAT IN
THE FILM WITH AN ALL-STAR
"CAST OF COMMENTATORS,"
TALKING ABOUT THE
RELEVANCE OF GENESIS
TODAY.
WHERE IS THE BEST PLACE WE
CAN SEE IT?
I ENCOURAGE EVERYONE TO
SEE THIS FILM.
IF YOU GO TO OUR
"WEBSITE,"
"www.roadmapgenesis.com,"
YOU CAN BUY A D.V.D. AND
"SPREAD THE WORD, OR YOU"
CAN DOWNLOAD IT OFF
OF iTUNES.
" Erick: NOLAN, THANKS"
SO MUCH FOR JOINING US.
GOOD LUCK WITH THE FILM.
GOD BLESS YOU.
KEEP UP THE GREAT WORK.
WE'LL TALK TO YOU AGAIN
SOON.
" THANK YOU, ERICK."
Erick: AND COMING UP
"NEXT, WOULD YOU LIKE TO"
"COME TO ISRAEL WITH ""THE"
"WATCHMAN""?"
FIND OUT HOW AFTER THE
BREAK.
.
Erick: I AM THRILLED
TO ANNOUNCE THAT ALONG
WITH MY CBN NEWS COLLEAGUE
"CHRIS MITCHELL, I'LL BE"
HELPING TO LEAD THE
DATELINE JERUSALEM TOUR OF
"ISRAEL, FROM NOVEMBER 3 TO"
"THE 13th, 2015."
AND I WANT YOU TO JOIN US.
CHRIS HAS BEEN BASED IN
JERUSALEM FOR 15 YEARS AS
CBN'S MIDDLE EAST BUREAU
CHIEF.
DURING THAT TIME HE HAS
COVERED ALL OF THE MAJOR
"EVENTS IN THE MIDDLE EAST,"
AND HE HAS ALSO BEEN MY
TRUSTED GUIDE ON MANY
TRIPS TO ISRAEL.
SO IT IS GOING TO BE A
BLAST TO TEAM UP WITH
CHRIS TO LEAD OUR TOUR
TOGETHER LATER THIS YEAR.
"NOW, IF YOU'VE NEVER BEEN"
"TO ISRAEL, LET ME TELL YOU"
IT IS A LIFE-CHANGING
EXPERIENCE.
THERE IS NOTHING LIKE
WALKING THROUGHOUT THE
"HOLY LAND, IN THE"
FOOTSTEPS OF JESUS AND THE
PROPHETS AND SEEING THE
BIBLE COME TO LIFE BEFORE
YOUR VERY EYES.
NOT ONLY WILL OUR TOUR
TAKE YOU TO ALL OF THE
"IMPORTANT BIBLICAL SITES,"
CHRIS AND I WILL ALSO GIVE
YOU A UNIQUE PERSPECTIVE
ON THE SECURITY CHALLENGES
FACING ISRAEL AND WHAT IT
ALL MEANS FOR US HERE IN
AMERICA AND FOR THE
FUTURE.
BIBLE PROPHECY.
THE TOUR IS BEING RUN BY
INSPIRATION CRUISES AND
TRAVEL MANAGEMENT COMPANY
"IN THE BUSINESS, SO THIS"
IS ALL GOING TO BE FIRST
CLASS.
COUNT ON IT.
YOU CAN FIND ALL OF THE
INFORMATION ON HOW TO SIGN
UP FOR THE TRIP BY GOING
TO THE WEB PAGE THAT YOU
SEE RIGHT THERE ON YOUR
SCREEN.
THERE IS ALSO A VIDEO AT
THAT LINK WHERE CHRIS WILL
TELL YOU MUCH MORE ABOUT
THIS EPIC EXPERIENCE.
"FOLKS, MY FIRST TRIP TO"
ISRAEL CHANGED MY LIFE.
YOU MAY HAVE HEARD ME TALK
ABOUT IT HERE ON THE SHOW.
"ONCE YOU GO, YOU'RE NEVER"
THE SAME.
SO JOIN US FROM NOVEMBER 3
"TO THE 13th, 2015, 10"
DAYS IN THE LAND OF
"ISRAEL, THE HOLY LAND."
I WOULD LOVE TO BREAK
BREAD WITH YOU LATER THIS
YEAR IN JERUSALEM.
DURING SUCH A TIME AS
THIS.