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The Watchman: Lone Wolves or Known Wolves?

On this week's edition of The Watchman, we sit down with terrorism expert Patrick Poole to discuss the "known wolf" phenomenon in Western jihadi attacks. We're also joined by director Nolan Lebovitz for a look at his new film ... Read Transcript


Erick: AND WELCOME TO

THE WATCHMAN.

"WELL, 2015 IS STILL VERY"

"YOUNG, AND WE'VE ALREADY"

SEEN A STRING OF ISLAMIC

TERRORIST ATTACKS HERE ON

WESTERN SOIL.

WE'VE SEEN JIHADISTS

"MASSACRE PEOPLE IN PARIS,"

"IN COPENHAGEN, DENMARK."

AND WE'VE HAD A MAJOR

TERRORIST CELL BROKEN UP

"IN BELGIUM, AND WE'VE HAD"

SOME ISIS-RELATED TERROR

ARRESTS RIGHT HERE ON U.S.

SOIL.

"NOW, MOST OF THE TIME WHEN"

THESE ATTACKS HAPPEN HERE

"IN THE WEST, THE"

MAINSTREAM MEDIA SAYS

"THESE ARE ""LONE WOLVES,"""

LIKE THEY JUST APPEARED

OUT OF NOWHERE TO CARRY

OUT ACTS OF CARNAGE.

WHAT IF THESE ARE ACTUALLY

KNOWN WOLVES.

THAT IS THE TERM QUOTED BY

"PATRICK, WHO IS AN EXPERT"

ON JIHAD AND RADICAL

"ISLAM, AND A REGULAR"

JOURNALIST FOR P.J.

MEDIA.COM.

TAKE A LOOK AT MY

INTERVIEW WITH PATRICK

POOLE TALKING ABOUT THE

KNOWN WOLVES THAT ARE IN

YOUR BACKYARD.

"PATRICK POOLE, WELCOME"

BACK MY FRIEND.

IT IS ALWAYS GREAT TO HAVE

YOU HERE AND GET YOUR

INSIGHTS.

ESPECIALLY NOW.

WE'RE COMING OUT OF THE

ASHES OF THIS HORRIFIC

ATTACK IN PARIS.

WE'RE SEEING ARREST AFTER

"ARREST, IT SEEMS, IN"

EUROPE AND THE UNITED

STATES.

A LOT OF PEOPLE HAVE

"DUBBED THIS THE ""LONE"

"WOLF"" SYNDROME."

BUT YOU'VE COME UP WITH A

"NEW TERM TO IDENTIFY THEM,"

KNOWN WOLVES.

TALK ABOUT THAT A LITTLE

BIT.

"WHAT IS A ""KNOWN WOLF,"""

WHEN IT COMES TO ISLAMIC

JIHAD.

" ERICK, WHAT WE'VE SEEN"

"IN THESE TERROR INCIDENTS,"

GOING BACK TO EVEN THE

"9/11 ATTACKS, IS THAT TIME"

AND TIME AGAIN THESE

"TERROR ATTACKS, WHETHER IT"

"IS IN THE UNITED STATES,"

"CANADA, THE SYDNEY GUY IN"

"AUSTRALIA LAST MONTH, THE"

PARIS ATTACKS -- IN ALL OF

THESE CASES THESE WERE

INDIVIDUALS WHO WERE

ALREADY KNOWN TO LAW

ENFORCEMENTS.

AND SUFFICIENT ACTION

WASN'T TAKEN AGAINST THEM

TO BE ABLE TO PREVENT THEM

FROM KILLING CITIZENS.

"FOR INSTANCE, IN THE"

"SYDNEY HOSTAGE SITUATION,"

SHEIKH HURON WAS OUT ON

BAIL ON TWO SEPARATE

CHARGES.

HE HAD ALREADY BEEN

CONVICTED OF HARASSING THE

WIDOWS OF AUSTRALIAN

SOLDIERS WHO WERE KILLED

IN COMBAT IN AFGHANISTAN.

"YOU KNOW, HE WAS A"

WELL-KNOWN EXTREMIST

FIGURE IN AUSTRALIA.

AND HE HAD EVEN SAID

PREVIOUSLY THAT HE WAS

GOING TO STAGE A PROTEST

"IN MARTIN PLACE, WHICH WAS"

"WHERE THIS SHOP WAS, AND"

THAT'S WHERE HE TOOK THE

HOSTAGE.

Erick: AND KILLED TWO

HOSTAGES.

YEAH.

AND GOING BACK TO THE TWO

INCIDENCES IN CANADA IN

"OCTOBER, TWO SEPARATE"

"INCIDENTS WITHIN A WALK,"

MOST NOTABLY THE ATTACK ON

PARLIAMENT HILL --

Erick: AND OUTSIDE OF

MONTREAL.

AND IN BOTH OF THOSE

"CASES, THOSE TWO"

INDIVIDUALS HAD THEIR

PASSPORTS PULLED BY THE

ROYAL CANADIAN MOUNTED

POLICE BECAUSE OF THEIR

KNOWN TERRORIST

SYMPATHIES.

"AND IN THOSE TWO CASES,"

YOU HAD INDIVIDUALS DEAD.

AND YOU HAD A GUN FIGHT IN

THE HALLS OF PARLIAMENT IN

CANADA.

AND SO WITH THE DIRECT

ATTACK ON FREE SPEECH IN

PARIS THAT WE SAW ON

"CHARLIE HEBDO, AND THE "

FACT THAT IT WAS OVER

"SEVERAL DAYS -- YOU KNOW,"

IT WAS A SITUATION THAT

CONTINUED THROUGHOUT THE

"WEEK, SO THE NEWS CYCLE"

WAS NOT ABLE TO BURY THE

STORY.

IT WAS A DIRECT ATTACK ON

FREE SPEECH.

IT CONTINUED FOR SEVERAL

DAYS.

I THINK IT REALLY CAPTURED

A LOT OF PEOPLE'S

ATTENTION AND THESE PAST

INCIDENTS KIND OF HAVE

INCREASED PEOPLE'S

AWARENESS OF THE DEGREE OF

THE PROBLEM.

PLUS ISIS.

Erick: YES.

ISIS IN THE PARIS ATTACKS

ARE SOMEWHAT OF A TIPPING

"POINT IN THAT REGARD,"

PATRICK.

THIS IS FRUSTRATING.

THESE ARE HARDENED ISLAMIC

TERRORISTS WHO HAVE KILLED

"PEOPLE, WHO HAVE EUROPEAN,"

"CANADA, AUSTRALIAN,"

AMERICAN BLOOD ON THEIR

HANDS.

AND THEY WERE ON THE LAW

ENFORCEMENT AUTHORITY'S

RADAR SCREENS BEFORE THEY

CARRIED OUT THESE ATTACKS.

WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS

THESE ATTACKS POSSIBLY

COULD HAVE BEEN PREVENTED.

ABSOLUTELY.

Erick: HOW IS THIS

HAPPENING?

THEY'RE ON THE RADAR

SCREEN AND SLIDING OFF THE

SCREEN AND CARRYING OUT

JIHADI ATTACKS.

HOW IS THIS HAPPENING?

REALLY TWO THINGS:

AUTHORITIES ARE NOT ABLE

TO LOOK AT THE IDEOLOGICAL

DRIVERS.

"THIS ADMINISTRATION, AS"

"YOU KNOW, AND AS USED"

"REPORTED ON, THE"

ADMINISTRATION HAS

COMPLETELY BANNED ANY

DISCUSSION OF THE

"IDEOLOGICAL DRIVERS, AND"

YOU CAN'T LOOK AT THE

SUPPORT NETWORKS.

TWO PERFECT CASES HERE INT

UNITED STATES.

"THE BOSTON BOMBING, WHICH"

"YOU REPORTED ON, WHERE THE"

RUSSIAN F.S.B.WENT TO THE

"F.B.I. NOT ONCE, BUT TWICE"

ABOUT TAMERLAN TSARNAEV.

AND SO THE RUSSIANS WARNED

US TWICE ABOUT TAMERLAN

TSARNAEV --

Erick: ONE OF THE

BOMBERS.

" AND THE F.B.I., BY"

"THEIR OWN ADMISSION, SAID,"

"WELL, THEY INTERVIEWED AND"

"THEY COULDN'T FIND, YOU"

"KNOW, A NOTE OF"

RADICALIZATION.

"BUT AS WE KNOW, HE WAS"

GOING TO THE ISLAMIC

"SOCIETY OF BOSTON, WHICH"

WAS FOUNDED BY AN

al-QAEDA FUNDRAISER --

Erick: MUSLIM

BROTHERHOOD-CONNECTED.

YEAH.

"AND SEVERAL TERRORISTS,"

"LIKE TERIK MAHANA, AND NOW"

"AHMAD ABOUSAMRA, ALL CAME"

OUT OF THAT MOSQUE.

"AND THE F.B.I. SAID, WE"

COULDN'T FIND A NOTE.

AND RIGHT THERE IT WAS.

Erick: AND ONE OF THE

MOST NOTORIOUS LONE WOLF

IS NADAL HUSAN.

"TELL US ABOUT THAT, THE"

FORT HOOD INCIDENT.

IN CASE OF THE FORT

"HOOD INCIDENT, THE F.B.I."

"WAS WATCHING IN REALTIME,"

AS HE WAS IN COMMUNICATION

WITH A al-QAEDA IN

YEMEN.

THEY WANTED TO OPEN A CASE

"ON MAJOR NADAL HASAN, AND"

THE F.B.I. HEADQUARTERS

CAME DOWN AND SHUT DOWN

THE INVESTIGATION.

WHEN IT BECAME AWARE THAT

THE F.B.I. WAS AWARE OF

"THIS LONE WOLF, THEY SAID,"

"LOOK, WE LOOKED AT THE"

E-MAIL CORRESPONDENCE AND

IT WAS IN ACCORDANCE WITH

HIS RESEARCH AND STUDIES

AT WALTER REED HOSPITAL.

"FOUR YEARS LATER, WHEN WE"

GET TO SEE THE TEXT OF

"THESE E-MAILS, ONE OF HIS"

LAST E-MAILS WAS TALKING

ABOUT DOING A SUICIDE

BOMBING AND KILLING ENEMY

SOLDIERS.

Erick: AND THIS

E-MAIL WAS FROM NADAL

HASAN TO ANWAR

"al-AWLAKI, AN al-QAEDA"

"CLERIC, WHO WAS ASKING FOR"

ADVICE IS IT OKAY TO KILL

AMERICAN SOLDIERS IN

"SUICIDE BOMBINGS, AND THIS"

DIDN'T RAISE RED FLAGS?

APPARENTLY NOT.

AND THEN YOU HAVE 13 DEAD

AMERICANS AND OTHERS

INJURED IN FORT HOOD.

Erick: THIS IS

MADDENING.

"WE HAVE FORT HOOD, A KNOWN"

WOLF.

AND ONE OF THE BOSTON

"BOMBERS, A KNOWN WOLF."

I THINK ONE OF THE MOST

NOTORIOUS CASE WAS PARIS.

WE JUST SAW THE PARIS

ATTACKS.

THE BROTHERS THAT KILLED

"12 PEOPLE AT ""CHARLIE"

"HEBDO,"" INCLUDING TWO"

"POLICE OFFICERS, THEY WERE"

ON THE RADAR OF THE LAW

ENFORCEMENT.

ONE OF THE BROTHERS HAD

BEEN IN PRISON FOR HIS

ROLE IN FUNDING JIHAD IRAQ

TO KILL AMERICANS.

Erick: AND RELEASED

"EARLY, BY THE WAY."

" YEAH, HE ONLY SERVED"

HALF OF HIS SENTENCE.

AND THEY WERE ON THE RADAR

AGAIN WHEN THEY WERE

PLOTTING A JAIL BREAK OF A

NOTORIOUS JIHADIST.

AND THE U.S. HAD BOTH

BROTHERS ON THE NO-FLY

LIST --

Erick: AND THE U.K.

"DID, TOO."

SO THERE WAS NO SECRET

WHO THESE GUYS WERE.

THEY WERE A JIHADI

ATTACK WAITING TO HAPPEN

ON FRENCH SOIL.

AND THEY HAD BEEN IN

YEMEN.

AND THEY HAD BEEN IN

"YEMEN, AND IT LOOKS LIKE"

THEY MIGHT HAVE BEEN

PASSED BY al-QAEDA IN

THE ARABIAN PENINSULA.

SO IT REMAINS TO BE SEEN

WHAT WESTERN AUTHORITIES

ARE -- HOW THEY'RE GOING

TO RESPOND TO THESE SERIES

OF ATTACKS?

ARE THEY GOING TO BEGIN TO

TAKE SERIOUSLY THE

IDEOLOGICAL DRIVERS?

OF COURSE WE HAVE ALL OF

THESE TERRORISM EXPERTS

"LITTERING WASHINGTON, D.C."

AND THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO

WITH IDEOLOGY.

IT'S BECAUSE HIS DAD

DIDN'T HUG HIM ENOUGH.

Erick: YEAH.

WE HAVE ALL OF THESE

EXPERTS WHO HAVE NO

TRAINING IN PSYCHIATRY.

Erick: THERE CAN'T BE

ANY THEOLOGICAL CONNECTION

BETWEEN ISLAMIC TERRORISM

WHATSOEVER.

YEAH.

AND ARE WE GOING TO BE

ABLE TO ALLOW LAW

ENFORCEMENT TO LOOK AT

THESE NOTES?

LIKE THE ISLAMIC SOCIETY

OF BOSTON.

Erick: THE RISE OF

"ISIS, IT HAS BEEN A GAME"

"CHANGER, IT SEEMS, IN"

TERMS OF THIS HOMEGROWN

JIHAD.

"IS THAT WE'RE SEEING, THAT"

THE ISLAMIC STATE HAS

GALVANIZED A WHOLE NEW

"GENERATION, AND MAYBE EVEN"

SOME UNLIKELY FOLKS TO

JOIN THE JIHAD?

ABSOLUTELY.

WE SEE THESE

ADMINISTRATION REPORTS

"WHERE, OH, WE KILLED 40 OR"

100 ISIS FIGHTERS.

"THERE ARE 1,000 ISIS"

FIGHTERS GOING OVER THE

"BORDER, THE TURKISH-SYRIAN"

BORDER TO JOIN ISIS EVERY

"MONTH, REPORTEDLY."

SO THEY ARE FILLING

THROUGH RANKS FASTER THAN

WE CAN KILL THEM WITH WHAT

WE'RE CURRENTLY DOING.

AND WE SEE THEIR

"PROPAGANDA, WHETHER IT IS"

THERE AT THEIR ENGLISH

"LANGUAGE MAGAZINE, OR"

THESE PROPAGANDA VIDEOS

THEY PUT OUT.

THEY'RE TARGETING WESTERN

RECRUITS AND TELLING THEM

"TO KILL WESTERNERS,"

"POLICE, ETC., HERE IN THE"

WEST.

Erick: RANDOM

ATTACKS.

RANDOM BEHEADINGS.

SOMEONE IS WALKING TO WORK

IN THE MORNING AND THEY'RE

SNATCHED OFF THE STREET

AND BEHEADED.

BASICALLY GUERRILLA WAR IN

SOME RESPECTS ON WESTERN

"SOIL IS THE ULTIMATE GOAL,"

IT SEEMS.

"PATRICK, WE CAN'T THANK"

YOU ENOUGH.

CHECK OUT HIS WORK.

"UP NEXT, ABRAHAM, ISAAC,"

"AND JACOB, NOAH'S ARK,"

ADAM AND EVE -- WHY DOES

IT STILL MATTER TODAY?

WE SPEAK TO A PRODUCER.

STICK AROUND.

Erick: WELCOME BACK.

"WELL, A LOT OF PEOPLE SAY"

THE BIBLE DOESN'T MATTER

"TODAY, THAT IT IS JUST AN"

ARCHAIC COLLECTION OF OLD

WRITINGS THAT HAVE NO

BEARING ON OUR LIVES IN

THE YEAR 2015.

"WELL, A NEW FILM CALLED"

"ROADMAP GENESIS, THE MAP "

OTHERWISE.

WE'RE JOINED BY ITS

"DIRECTOR, NOLAN LIEBOWITZ."

GREAT TO HAVE YOU.

THANK YOU FOR HAVING

ME.

Erick: YOU CAME HERE

AND INTERVIEWED ME IN

"WASHINGTON, D.C., AND I"

"MADE MANY DIVA DEMANDS, WE"

HAD A TRAILER SET UP --

" NO, NO, NOT AT ALL."

Erick: IT WAS GREAT

SPENDING TIME WITH YOU AND

GETTING TO SEE YOUR HEART.

YOU TOLD ME ABOUT YOUR

FAITH JOURNEY WHEN WE

SPENT TIME TOGETHER DURING

THE INTERVIEW.

"BUT TELL ME, FIRST OF ALL,"

HOW YOU CAME UP WITH THIS

GREAT IDEA.

TELL ME HOW YOU CAME UP

"WITH THE IDEA OF ""ROADMAP"

"GENESIS."""

I WAS A HOLLYWOOD

FILM-MAKER AND I MADE REAL

HOLLYWOOD MOVIES.

AND SONY RELEASED MY LAST

"ONE CALLED ""TORTURE,"" AND"

IT STARRED LAWRENCE

FISHBURNE IN 2008.

I WOKE UP ONE MORNING

AFTER I HAD GOTTEN MARRIED

AND AFTER I HAD MY

"DAUGHTER, AND THE WORLD"

JUST DIDN'T LOOK THE SAME

WAY TO ME AS IT HAD

BEFORE.

I TOLD MY WIFE I WAS GOING

TO STUDY TO BECOME A

RABBI.

AND THAT WAS THE BEGINNING

OF MY JOURNEY.

THE JOURNEY HAD LED ME TO

LIVING IN ISRAEL LAST

"YEAR, AND IT LED ME TO"

THIS MOVIE.

BECAUSE EVERY DAY I WOULD

BASICALLY COME HOME FROM

RABBINICAL SCHOOL AND TELL

"MY WIFE, WE JUST READ THE"

MOST AMAZING THING IN

"SCHOOL, AND I SHOULD"

TOTALLY MAKE A MOVIE.

"AND SHE WAS TELL ME, TAKE"

IT EASY.

JUST GO LEARN AND KEEP

THESE IDEAS TO OURSELVES

UNTIL YOU REALLY HIT A

GOOD ONE.

Erick: BY THE WAY --

SORRY TO INTERRUPT YOU.

WHAT WAS YOUR WIFE'S

INITIAL REACTION.

YOU'RE THIS HOLLYWOOD

FILM-MAKER AND YOU COME

"HOME AND SAY, I WANT TO BE"

A RABBI.

WHAT WAS YOUR WIFE'S

REACTION TO THAT?

" STUNNED, TO BE TOTALLY"

HONEST.

BUT I THINK THAT -- I SAY

"IT IN THE MOVIE, THE"

JOURNEY WOULD NOT HAVE

BEEN POSSIBLE WITHOUT HER.

THIS IS A JOURNEY WE'VE

"TAKEN TOGETHER, WITH OUR"

KIDS.

AND I THINK IT HAS MADE IT

ALL THE MORE MEANINGFUL

BECAUSE OF IT.

"BECAUSE, LISTEN, I WOULD"

"STUDY HEBREW, BIBLICAL"

GRAMMAR BY READING THE

BOOK OF GENESIS TO MY SON

WHEN HE WAS AN INFANT.

"IN FULL DISCLOSURE, HE"

WOULD FALL ASLEEP.

BUT IT IS PART OF THE BOND

I HAVE WITH MY CHILDREN.

NOW WHEN I READ THE TORAH

TO THEM OR THE FIVE BOOKS

OF MOSES EVERY SATURDAY

MORNING AND WE READ THE

"STORIES AND TALK ABOUT IT,"

THEY'RE PART OF IT.

"AND I DO IT FOR THEM, MORE"

THAN I DO IT FOR MYSELF.

Erick: AND YOU CAN

SEE THESE FAMILY BONDS

"THAT YOU MENTIONED, NOLAN,"

AND I THINK THEY REALLY

SHINE THROUGH IN THE FILM.

"TALK ABOUT WHAT ""GENESIS"""

MEANS TO YOU PERSONALLY.

YOU'RE GOING TO RABBINICAL

SCHOOL AND YOU'RE IN

"JERUSALEM, AND THERE WAS"

THIS PROFOUND CONNECTION

YOU MADE WITH THE BOOK OF

GENESIS.

TALK ABOUT THAT CONNECTION

AND WHAT THE BOOK OF

GENESIS MEANS TO YOU?

IN THE BEGINNINGS OF

"THIS PROJECT, THE IDEA WAS"

MAYBE I DO A MOVIE ABOUT

ALL FIVE BOOKS.

MAYBE I DO A MOVIE ABOUT

THE ENTIRE BIBLE.

BUT THE TRUTH IS YOU CAN'T

MAKE A MOVIE ABOUT

ANYTHING REGARDING THE

BIBLE UNLESS YOU ADDRESS

THE VERY BEGINNING.

IF YOU CAN'T TRUST THE

"BEGINNING OF THE BIBLE,"

THEN YOU CAN'T TRUST THE

REST OF THE BIBLE.

IF YOU CAN'T APPRECIATE

IT -- AND MY APPRECIATION

"FOR GENESIS, AS A YOUNG"

"FATHER, WAS OFF THE"

CHARTS.

BECAUSE YOU CAN FINALLY

UNDERSTAND THE STORIES I

BELIEVE THE WAY THEY'RE

SUPPOSED TO BE UNDERSTOOD

WHEN YOU HAVE CHILDREN.

WHEN YOU'RE A SON AND WHEN

"YOU HAVE A CHILD, LIKE I"

"WAS, YOU UNDERSTAND WHAT"

IT MEANS TO BE A CREATOR.

WHAT IT MEANS TO BE A

HUSBAND.

WHAT IT MEANS TO BE A

FATHER.

WHAT IT MEANS TO BE A

NEIGHBOR.

Erick: THAT IS SO

TRUE.

WE'VE GOT TO STOP RIGHT

THERE.

WE'RE HEADING TO A

"COMMERCIAL, BUT MUCH MORE"

COMING UP AFTER THE BREAK

"WITH NOLAN LIEBOWITZ, THE"

DIRECTOR OF A GREAT NEW

"DOCUMENTARY, ""ROADMAP"

"GENESIS."""

MUCH MORE AFTER THE BREAK.

DON'T LEAVE.

STAY TUNED.

¶¶¶

Erick: AND WELCOME

BACK.

WE'RE TALKING TO NOLAN

"LIEBOWITZ, DIRECTOR OF A"

GREAT NEW FILM CALLED

"ROADMAP GENESIS, THE MAP "

"NOLAN, ONE OF THE THINGS I"

LOVE ABOUT THE FILM IS YOU

INTERVIEW BOTH CHRISTIAN

AND JEWISH LEADERS.

YOU MENTIONED BEFORE THE

"BREAK, YOU CAN'T REALLY"

UNDERSTAND THE ENTIRE

"BIBLE, BELIEVE THE BIBLE,"

UNLESS YOU BELIEVE AND

"UNDERSTAND THE BEGINNING,"

"WHERE IT ALL STARTS,"

GENESIS.

TALK ABOUT BRINGING

CHRISTIAN AND JEWISH

LEADERS TOGETHER FOR THIS

FILM.

I JUST FINISHED A ROUND

"OF TRAVEL IN THIS COUNTRY,"

WHERE I WALKED IN AND

SCREENED THE MOVIE IN

EVANGELICAL CHURCHES

"ACROSS ORLANDO, DALLAS,"

"ATLANTA, PHOENIX, ALL IN A"

WEEK.

I WOKE UP EVERY DAY IN A

DIFFERENT CITY.

AND I WALKED INTO AN

EVANGELICAL CHURCH IN

"ORLANDO, SCREENED THE"

"MOVIE, AND A WOMAN STOOD"

"UP AND SAID TO ME, EVERY"

SUNDAY I PRAY FOR THE

"JEWISH PEOPLE IN ISRAEL,"

AND YOU'RE THE FIRST RABBI

WHO HAS EVER WALKED INTO

THIS CHURCH.

I COULDN'T BELIEVE IT.

IN THAT WAY THE MOVIE HAS

BEEN A BLESSING.

IT HAS BEEN A BLESSING

BECAUSE HAS AFFORDED ME

THE OPPORTUNITY TO MEET SO

MANY INCREDIBLE PEOPLE

ACROSS THE COUNTRY.

"AND JEWS AND CHRISTIANS,"

WE'RE LIKE FIRST COUSINS

WHO DON'T SPEAK ENOUGH.

THAT'S THE TRUTH.

IF THIS MOVIE HELPS A

"CONVERSATION, IF IT HELPS"

"BUILD BRIDGES, WHICH IS"

REALLY WHAT IT IS SUPPOSED

"TO DO, IF IT CAN"

ACCOMPLISH ITS GOAL OF

"BUILDING THAT BRIDGE, TO"

BRING US BACK TO THE TABLE

"TOGETHER, IT WILL HAVE"

BEEN MISSION ACCOMPLISHED.

Erick: IN THE LEAD-IN

"TO OUR INTERVIEW, A LOT OF"

"PEOPLE THINK, LOOK, THE"

BOOK OF GENESIS IS NOT

RELEVANT TODAY.

THE BIBLE IS NOT RELEVANT

TODAY.

"RIGHT NOW WE HAVE ISIS,"

AND IRAN DRIVING FOR A

"NUCLEAR WEAPON, CIVIL"

UNREST IN MANY COUNTRIES.

HOW IS GENESIS RELEVANT

TODAY TO EVERYTHING THAT

IS GOING ON IN THE WORLD

RIGHT NOW?

" THE TORAH, THE BIBLE,"

IT'S THE ANTEDOTE.

I KNOW THAT SOUNDS LIKE AN

EXAGGERATION.

BUT THE CHILDREN OF THESE

"INSANE FANATICS, OF THESE"

"MUSLIM EXTREMISTS, THEY'RE"

SUPER PROUD OF WHAT THEY

"LEARN, AND THEY HOLD THESE"

BELIEFS TO TRUE.

AND OUR CHILDREN GO TO

"SCHOOL, AND OUR CHILDREN"

"QUESTION EVERYTHING,"

INCLUDING THE FOUNDATION

UPON WHICH THIS COUNTRY

WAS FOUNDED.

GOD IS THERE AT THE

BEGINNING OF THE FOUNDING

"OF THIS COUNTRY, AND YET"

CHILDREN ARE DISCOURAGED

TO DISCUSS GOD IN THE

SCHOOLS TODAY IN AMERICA.

AND THIS TODAY IS THE

DILEMMA.

IT IS OUR DILEMMA.

HOW DO WE RAISE OUR

CHILDREN TO FACE THE WORLD

AS IT IS?

NOT THE WAY IT SHOULD BE.

NOT THE WAY WE WOULD LIKE

"IT TO BE, BUT THE WAY THAT"

IT IS.

THE WAY IT IS IS A HARSH

"PLACE, WHERE PEOPLE WILL"

"CHALLENGE THEM LITERALLY,"

"PHYSICALLY, MILITARILY --"

JEWS AND CHRISTIANS ARE

BEING SLAUGHTERED ACROSS

"THE MIDDLE EAST, AND THE"

BIBLE BRINGS US BACK TO A

PLACE WHERE WE UNDERSTAND

WHO WE ARE AND WHAT OUR

MISSION AND THE WORLD IS.

I THINK THAT THE BOOK OF

GENESIS REALLY ACTS LIKE

THE ROADMAP.

ROADMAP GENESIS IS NOT

ONLY JUST THE NAME.

IT IS THE WAY I BELIEVE MY

OWN CHILDREN SHOULD BE

EDUCATED.

Erick: YOU TALK ABOUT

"THE HARDSHIP, AND IT IS A"

"CRUEL WORLD IN MANY TIMES,"

ESPECIALLY FOR JEWS AND

CHRISTIANS IN THE MIDDLE

EAST.

YOU LOOK AT THE STORIES OF

RESILIENCE IN THE BOOK OF

GENESIS.

"ABRAHAM, ISAAC, JACOB,"

"NOAH'S ARK, AND IT GOES ON"

AND ON.

STORIES OF OVERCOMING

"GREAT ODDS, GREAT"

"OBEDIENCE, AND TRUST IN"

GOD.

I THINK IT IS JUST

INCREDIBLE.

YOU HIT ON ALL OF THAT IN

THE FILM WITH AN ALL-STAR

"CAST OF COMMENTATORS,"

TALKING ABOUT THE

RELEVANCE OF GENESIS

TODAY.

WHERE IS THE BEST PLACE WE

CAN SEE IT?

I ENCOURAGE EVERYONE TO

SEE THIS FILM.

IF YOU GO TO OUR

"WEBSITE,"

"www.roadmapgenesis.com,"

YOU CAN BUY A D.V.D. AND

"SPREAD THE WORD, OR YOU"

CAN DOWNLOAD IT OFF

OF iTUNES.

" Erick: NOLAN, THANKS"

SO MUCH FOR JOINING US.

GOOD LUCK WITH THE FILM.

GOD BLESS YOU.

KEEP UP THE GREAT WORK.

WE'LL TALK TO YOU AGAIN

SOON.

" THANK YOU, ERICK."

Erick: AND COMING UP

"NEXT, WOULD YOU LIKE TO"

"COME TO ISRAEL WITH ""THE"

"WATCHMAN""?"

FIND OUT HOW AFTER THE

BREAK.

.

Erick: I AM THRILLED

TO ANNOUNCE THAT ALONG

WITH MY CBN NEWS COLLEAGUE

"CHRIS MITCHELL, I'LL BE"

HELPING TO LEAD THE

DATELINE JERUSALEM TOUR OF

"ISRAEL, FROM NOVEMBER 3 TO"

"THE 13th, 2015."

AND I WANT YOU TO JOIN US.

CHRIS HAS BEEN BASED IN

JERUSALEM FOR 15 YEARS AS

CBN'S MIDDLE EAST BUREAU

CHIEF.

DURING THAT TIME HE HAS

COVERED ALL OF THE MAJOR

"EVENTS IN THE MIDDLE EAST,"

AND HE HAS ALSO BEEN MY

TRUSTED GUIDE ON MANY

TRIPS TO ISRAEL.

SO IT IS GOING TO BE A

BLAST TO TEAM UP WITH

CHRIS TO LEAD OUR TOUR

TOGETHER LATER THIS YEAR.

"NOW, IF YOU'VE NEVER BEEN"

"TO ISRAEL, LET ME TELL YOU"

IT IS A LIFE-CHANGING

EXPERIENCE.

THERE IS NOTHING LIKE

WALKING THROUGHOUT THE

"HOLY LAND, IN THE"

FOOTSTEPS OF JESUS AND THE

PROPHETS AND SEEING THE

BIBLE COME TO LIFE BEFORE

YOUR VERY EYES.

NOT ONLY WILL OUR TOUR

TAKE YOU TO ALL OF THE

"IMPORTANT BIBLICAL SITES,"

CHRIS AND I WILL ALSO GIVE

YOU A UNIQUE PERSPECTIVE

ON THE SECURITY CHALLENGES

FACING ISRAEL AND WHAT IT

ALL MEANS FOR US HERE IN

AMERICA AND FOR THE

FUTURE.

BIBLE PROPHECY.

THE TOUR IS BEING RUN BY

INSPIRATION CRUISES AND

TRAVEL MANAGEMENT COMPANY

"IN THE BUSINESS, SO THIS"

IS ALL GOING TO BE FIRST

CLASS.

COUNT ON IT.

YOU CAN FIND ALL OF THE

INFORMATION ON HOW TO SIGN

UP FOR THE TRIP BY GOING

TO THE WEB PAGE THAT YOU

SEE RIGHT THERE ON YOUR

SCREEN.

THERE IS ALSO A VIDEO AT

THAT LINK WHERE CHRIS WILL

TELL YOU MUCH MORE ABOUT

THIS EPIC EXPERIENCE.

"FOLKS, MY FIRST TRIP TO"

ISRAEL CHANGED MY LIFE.

YOU MAY HAVE HEARD ME TALK

ABOUT IT HERE ON THE SHOW.

"ONCE YOU GO, YOU'RE NEVER"

THE SAME.

SO JOIN US FROM NOVEMBER 3

"TO THE 13th, 2015, 10"

DAYS IN THE LAND OF

"ISRAEL, THE HOLY LAND."

I WOULD LOVE TO BREAK

BREAD WITH YOU LATER THIS

YEAR IN JERUSALEM.

DURING SUCH A TIME AS

THIS.

EMBED THIS VIDEO

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