On this week's edition of The Watchman, we sit down with terrorism experts Patrick Poole and Ryan Mauro to discuss Iran, ISIS, Yemen and Syria--and why it matters for Americans.
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Erick: AND WELCOME TO
"THE WATCHMAN."
WELL, ISIS CONTINUES TO
WREAK HAVOC THROUGHOUT THE
MIDDLE EAST AND NORTH
AFRICA, BEHEADING,
ENSLAVING, AND BUDGETING
BUDGET BUTCHERING ITS WAY TO
A NEW CALIPHATE.
BUT HOW DOES IT AFFECT YOU
AT HOME.
JOINING ME TODAY TO DISCUSS
IT ARE TWO OF AMERICA'S TOP
NATIONAL SECURITY EXPERTS.
NEITHER IS A STRANGER TO
THIS PROGRAM.
RYAN ALOS, AND HE IS A GUEST
AND FOX NEWS AND MANY
OTHERS.
AND A CLEAN JOURNALIST
PATRICK POOLE IS AN EXPERT
ON ISLAMIC TERRORISM AND A
REGULAR CONTRIBUTOR TO PJ
PJJMEDIA.COM.
WELCOME, GENTLEMAN.
RYAN, I WANT TO START WITH
YOU.
WE'RE GOING TO GET INTO THE
DOMESTIC THREATS, THE
HOMELAND, BUT I WANT TO ASK
YOU FIRST ABOUT THE STATE OF
ISIS, THE STATE OF THE
ISLAMIC STATE.
WE HAVE HAD LIMITED U.S.
AIRSTRIKES OVER THE PAST FEW
MONTHS.
HOW IS ISIS RIGHT NOW?
HAVE THEY BEEN WEAKENED, ARE
THEY GROWING STRONGER?
THEY'VE BEEN PUSHING BACK
IN SOME AREAS, WHICH THEY
GAINED IN SYRIA OR
ELSEWHERE, SO WHILE WE CAN
FOCUS ON THE TERRITORY
THEY'VE LOST IN IRAQ, WELL,
THEY'RE EXPANDING ELSEWHERE,
SO THEY'RE STILL EXPANDING
IN TERMS OF GEOGRAPHIC
TERRITORY.
BUT WHEN YOU ALSO LOOK AT
THE NUMBERS THAT THE
ADMINISTRATION HAS PUT OUT,
THE NUMBERS OF ISIS THAT
HAVE BEEN KILLED, YOU ALSO
HAVE TO ACCOUNT FOR THE
NUMBER OF FOREIGN FIGHTERS
THAT ARE FLOWING IN.
Erick: WHICH HAS NOT
CEASED.
IT IS UNABATED.
RIGHT, THERE IS NO
EVIDENCE IT HAS DECREASED AT
ALL.
SO WHEN YOU PUT THOSE TWO
NUMBERS TOGETHER, WE ARE, AT
BEST, BREAKING EVEN.
Erick: TALK ABOUT HOW
THE ISIS IS STREACIAL
ESTABLISH NEW FRANCHISES.
AND DISSIPATE ALL OF THE
MEDIA HYPE ABOUT RETAKING OF
TIKRIT, WE SEE THAT THEY ARE
PUSHING INTO AMBAR PROVINCE,
AND MAKING INCURSIONS INTO
PALESTINIAN CAMPS SOUTH OF
DAMASCUS.
SO A LOT OF THE
ADMINISTRATION'S SPIN IS
EXACTLY THAT, IT IS SPIN.
AND THEN WE SEE THESE ISIS
AFFILIATES POPPING UP,
GROUPS PLEDGING ALLEGIANCE.
I SAW HERE THE OTHER DAY IN
THE PHILIPPINES, SEVERAL
JIHADIST GROUPS PLEDGED
ALLEGIANCE.
SO CLEARLY THESE JIHADIST
GROUPS KNOW SOMETHING THAT
THE OBAMA ADMINISTRATION
DOESN'T BECAUSE THEY'RE
GAINING SPEED AND MOMENTUM.
YEAH.
ALGERIA, AND BOKO HARAM IN
NIGERIA, AND IN AFGHAN,
PAKISTAN, WE'RE SEEING
STIRINGS AS WELL OF ISIS
SUPPORTERS.
RYAN, YOU TALK ABOUT IT
BEING -- AND PATRICK ALLUDED
TO IT AS WELL -- BEING A
GLOBAL PHENOMENON.
WE HAVE HAD THOUSANDS OF
WESTERNERS TRAVEL TO THIS
NEW CALIPHATE.
TALK ABOUT THE PIPELINE FROM
EUROPE IN PARTICULAR TO IRAQ
AND SYRIA, AND ALSO THE
UNITED STATES, U.S. CITIZENS
JOINING ISIS OVERSEAS.
THAT IS INCREASING, WHEN
YOU SEE THE NUMBERS IN
EUROPE AND THE UNITED
STATES, AND AN INCREASING
NUMBER ARE REFERRED TO AT
SOMETIMES SELF-RADICALIZED,
BUT THEY'RE ALMOST ALWAYS IN
CONTACT WITH FOREIGNORS WHO
SUPPORT ISIS.
BUT WE'RE SEEING THAT NUMBER
INCREASE.
AND THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO
FOLLOW GOD'S WILL, AND HOW
THEY INTERPRET THAT.
THEY SAY THEIR FIRST
OBLIGATION IS TO GO TO THE
CALIPHATE.
BUT IF THEY FEEL THEY'RE
UNABLE TO DO THAT, THAT
THEY'LL BE ARRESTED AT THE
AIRPORT, THAT'S WHEN THEY
CARRY OUT AN ATTACK HERE IN
THE UNITED STATES.
SO WE'RE STUCK IN THIS
POSITION IF WE START
INTERCEPTING THEM AS THEY GO
OVERSEAS, IT INCREASES THAT
THE RADICALIZED ARE GOING TO
CARRY OUT AND ATTACK HERE.
EITHER WAY WE'RE DEFINITELY
IN DANGER.
Erick: RYAN, THIS SEEMS
TO BE A STRICT IDEOLOGICAL
MESSAGE THEY'RE RESPONDING
TO.
BECAUSE PEOPLE ASK ME ALL OF
THE TIME, WHY ARE AMERICANS
JOINING ISIS?
WE HAVE EVERYTHING HERE.
IS IT THE IDEOLOGY THAT IS
DRAWING THEM?
THERE.
AND THERE ARE SPECIFIC
TENENTS OF THE IDEOLOGY,
THAT IF YOU WERE TO DESTROY
THEM, ANOTHER WOULD COME TO
REPLACE THEM.
AND ONE OF THE THINGS IS
THEY'RE FULFILLING END-TIME
PROPHECY.
AND THEY BELIEVE THAT THE
BATTLE THEY'RE ENGAGING IN
THERE, THE LAST LOYAL
JIHADISTS, ONE-THIRD WILL BE
KILLED, ONE-THIRD WILL FLEE,
AND ONE-THIRD WILL REMAIN TO
BRING VICTORY OVER THE
ENEMIES OF ISLAM.
EVEN WHEN YOU KILL THEM,
THAT IS VINDICATEING THE
IDEOLOGY.
AND THE SECOND TENENT IS
THEY BELIEVE THIS IS
ATONEMENT FOR THEIR SIN.
ESSENTIALLY THEY HAVE TO DO
A LOT OF GOOD TO MAKE UP FOR
THEIR PAST SIN, BUT THERE IS
NO WAY TO QUANTIFY THAT.
SO THEY SAY, I'VE DONE A LOT
OF BAD THINGS IN MY LIFE,
AND DYING IN JIHAD IS THE
ONLY WAY TO GUARANTEE MY
ENTRY INTO PARADISE.
Erick: THAT IS
FASCINATING.
I'M GLAD YOU BROUGHT THAT
UP.
AND, PATRICK, YOU WANT TO
SAY SOMETHING.
GETTING BACK TO THE
ADMINISTRATION'S SPIN, BACK
IN LATE SEPTEMBER, F.B.I.
DIRECTOR DACOMCOMI APPEARED
ON 60 MINUTES, AND HE SAID
THERE WERE ABOUT A DOZEN
ISIS MEMBERS.
IT IS ON TAPE.
AND FEBRUARY ROLLS AROUND,
AND DIRECTOR OF
INTELLIGENCE, JAMES CLAPPER,
IN 2011, CAME OUT AND SAID,
WELL, THERE ARE ABOUT 180,
AND WE KNOW OF 40 WHO HAVE
ALREADY RETURNED.
SO CLEARLY THE F.B.I.
DIRECTOR WAS LYING THROUGH
HIS TEETH TO 60 MINUTES OR
ELSE THERE WAS THIS
INCREDIBLE SURGE OVER -- YOU
KNOW, AT THE END OF THE
YEAR.
AND WE SEE THESE CASES
POPPING UP ON ALMOST DAILY
BASIS NOW.
Erick: AND COMIE, IN A
RARE MOMENT AND CANDOR, SAID
IN ALL 50 U.S. STATES, WE
HAVE INVESTIGATIONS ONGOING
INTO ISIS-RELATED ACTIVITY
ON AMERICAN SOIL.
SO FOLKS, WHAT THE F.B.I.
DIRECTOR IS SAYING IN EVERY
STATE IN THE UNION, WE HAVE
A NETWORK OF ISIS SUPPORTERS
AND SYMPATHIZERS.
IN YOUR HOME TOWN, COLUMBUS,
OHIO, WE RECENTLY HAD AN
ARREST OF A SOMALI MAN WHO
HAD FOUGHT WITH ISIS,
TRAINED WITH ISIS OVERSEAS,
AND WE'RE NOT SURE IF IT WAS
ISIS OR THE al-NUSRA
FRONT, BUT HE RETURNED.
AND, PATRICK, WHEN THEY
RETURN, ALL BETS ARE OFF,
RIGHT?
YES.
AND THIS IS A CASE OF
ANOTHER F.B.I. FAILURE.
THEY INTERVIEWED HIM BEFORE
HE LEFT FOR SYRIA.
TWO DAYS AFTER HE BECAME A
U.S. CITIZEN, THE F.B.I.
INTERVIEWS HIM, AND HE IS
CAUGHT LYING BY THE F.B.I.
AND HE CLAIMS HIS BROTHER
WAS OVER IN SYRIA FIGHTING
AND WHO WAS KILLED IN JUNE.
THEY ALLOW HIM TO APPLY FOR
A PASSPORT, ALLOW HIM TO
TRAVEL TO TURKEY.
FROM THERE HE GOES INTO
SYRIA, TRAINS, AND COMES
BACK, AND HE IS WANDERING
THE STREETS OF COLUMBUS,
OHIO.
Erick: THE HEARTLAND OF
AMERICA.
AT WHICH TIME HE COULD
HAVE COMMITTED A TERROR
ATTACK.
HE IS ARRESTED IN LATE
FEBRUARY ON STATE TERRORISM
CHARGES BECAUSE THE FEDS
WANTED TO GET HIM OFF THE
STREET AS SOON AS POSSIBLE.
AND HE WAS INDICTED BY THE
FEDS HERE JUST A COUPLE OF
WEEKS AGO FOR PLANNING
TERROR ATTACKS.
PARTICULAR TARGETING COPS
AND MILITARY SOLDIERS.
Erick: THAT'S ALWAYS A
THEME, MILITARY AND LAW
ENFORCEMENT ARE TARGETS
AGAIN AND AGAIN.
SO, RYAN, WE HAVE THIS
PIPELINE INCREASINGLY FROM
THE U.S., MINNESOTA IN
PARTICULAR, MI MINAPOLIS,
BUT NOTHING TO THE EXTENT OF
EUROPE.
TALK ABOUT BRITAIN, FRANCE,
GERMANY, AND WE'VE LITERALLY
HAD THOUSANDS OF YOUNG
MUSLIMS TRAVEL TO THIS
CALIPHATE.
TALK ABOUT THE SITUATION IN
EUROPE AND HOW IT AFFECTS US
HERE.
IT IS HORRIFIC.
BECAUSE YOU HAVE RADICAL
EXTREMISM BREWING ON THE
STREETS.
YOU HAVE SHAR'IA ON THE
STREETS.
IT IS HARD FOR US TO BELIEVE
THAT'S WHERE WE'RE HEADED.
BUT IF YOU WANT TO SEE THE
FUTURE OF THE UNITED STATES,
YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT EUROPE.
THERE IS A MAJOR PROBLEM
WITH IDENTITY, WHERE YOU
HAVE LOW INCOME, IMMIGRANT
POPULATIONS THERE THAT DON'T
FEEL ATTACHED TO THE
NATIONAL IDENTITY.
AND THEY'RE EVEN MUSLIM
ACTIVISTS THAT ARE COMING
OUT AND TALKING ABOUT THIS,
AND SAYING THAT IS THE
FUNDAMENTAL PROBLEM, THE
LACK OF ASSIMILATION.
YOU CAN'T JUST MOVE HERE AND
LIVE HERE.
YOU HAVE TO BECOME A
EUROPEAN.
Erick: AND THEY'RE NOT
DOING IT, TO A LARGE DOING
IT.
THEY'RE NOT DOING IT.
Erick: THEY'RE NOT
ASSIMILATING AND
INTEGRATING.
COULD THAT HAPPEN HERE IN
THE SOMALI COMMUNITIES?
I'VE SPENT EXTENSIVE TIME ON
THE GROUND HERE IN THE U.S.,
AND THERE IS A PROBLEM THERE
WITHINTEGRATION AND
ASSIMILATION.
AND MY FEAR IS WE COULD HAVE
A EUROPEAN-STYLE SITUATION
RESULTING WHERE THEY BECOME
BREEDING GROUNDS FOR
RADICALISM.
ERICK, I WOULD HAVE TO
TAKE ISSUE WITH THE
ASSIMILATION THAT IS A CAUSE
FOR RADICALIZATION.
IF IT WAS JUST ASSIMILATION,
WE WOULD SEE IT MUCH MORE
PERVASIVE THAN WHAT IT IS.
FOR EXAMPLE, THE SIX GUYS
THAT WERE ARRESTED IN
MINNEAPOLIS.
THEY ALL ATTENDED COLLEGE.
THE SHIRA AKMED CASE, HE WAS
THE FIRST SUICIDE BOMBER
BACK IN 2008.
AND HE HAD ATTENDED
COLLEGE.
HE HAD A GOOD JOB AT A
HOSPITAL.
SO IN TERMS OF THE AMERICAN
EXPERIENCE, AND EVEN SOME OF
THESE FOREIGN FIGHTERS
COMING FROM EUROPE AND
AUSTRALIA -- YOU KNOW, WE
SAW THE ISIS VIDEO OF THE
AUSTRALIAN DOCTOR.
Erick: THAT'S RIGHT.
THE FORMER MALE MODEL THAT
WENT TO JOIN ISIS.
SO THERE ARE -- THEY PLAY
ON THOSE THEMES OF
ALIENATION.
BUT IN PRACTICAL TERMS, I
DON'T THINK THAT IT'S REALLY
THAT BIG OF A DRIVER.
Erick: WE'VE GOT TO
LEAVE IT RIGHT THERE, GUYS.
RYAN, HOLD THAT THOUGHT.
I GUESS IT ALL COMES BACK TO
IDEOLOGY.
IT IS THAT JIHADIST
IDEOLOGY.
MUCH MORE COMING UP WITH
RYAN MORROW AND PATRICK
POOLE.
WHATEVER HAPPENED TO THE
MUSLIM BROTHERHOOD?
THEY'RE STILL HERE.
FIND OUT AFTER THE BREAK.
Erick: WELCOME BACK.
WE'RE TALKING TO RYAN MORROW
AND PATRICK POOLE, TWO TOP
NATIONAL SECURITY EXPERTS,
ABOUT THE GLOBAL JIHAD THAT
IS IN YOUR BACKYARD.
ONE OF THE GRANDDADDIES OF
THAT IS THE MUSLIM
BROTHERHOOD.
YOU HAD THE MUSLIM
BROTHERHOOD, WHICH SPAWNED
al-QAEDA, WHICH SPAWNED
ISIS.
WHICH SPAWNED THE MUSLIM
BROTHERHOOD.
AND THEY TOOK A HIT,
MOHAMMED MORSI, THE
PRESIDENT WAS DEPOSED.
THE BROTHERSHIP HAS BEEN
WEAKENED IN THE BROTHERSHIP,
I GUESS YOU COULD CALL IT.
WHAT IS THE STATE OF THE
BROTHERHOOD?
HAVE THEY SHIFTED THEIR
TACTICS?
WHAT IS GOING ON WITH THE
GLOBAL MUSLIM BROTHERHOOD
NETWORK RIGHT NOW?
THE POLLS SHOW THEY HAVE
SUBSTANTIAL AMOUNTS OF
POPULARITY.
IT IS NOT ONCE WHERE IT ONCE
WAS BECAUSE PEOPLE HAD TO
EXPERIENCE LIVING UNDER THEN
IN EGYPT, BUT THEY ARE STILL
VERY POWERFUL.
THEY HAVE BECOME
ANTAGONISTIC AGAINST
AL-SISSI, AND THEY SAY YOU
HAVE TO RELEASE THE MUSLIM
BROTHERHOOD GUY --
Erick: WHO JUST GOT
SENTENCED TO 25 YEARS?
IT WAS LESS THAN WHAT WAS
EXPECTED.
SO THEY'RE STILL A POWERFUL
FORCE.
THE WAY THEY'RE TRYING TO
REHABILITATE THEMSELVES IS
BY SAYING WHAT MORSI DID IS
NOT REFLECTIVE OF THE ENTIRE
GROUP.
AND WE STAND FOR DEMOCRACY.
WHICH IS EXACTLY WHAT THE
COMMUNISTS SAID.
LENON OR STALIN, THAT'S WHAT
THEY SAID.
Erick: AND THE
BROTHERHOOD IS SHIFTING
THEIR POWER TO THE WEST.
EXPOUND ON THAT, PATRICK.
WHEN I WAS IN EGYPT LAST
YEAR, MEETING WITH ONE OF
THE EGYPTIAN OFFICIALS, ONE
OF THE CONCERNS THEY KEPT
EXPRESSING IS THEY WERE
CRACKING DOWN ON THE
BROTHERHOOD, AND KUWAIT,
U.A.E., U.A.E. EVEN
DESIGNATING TWO AMERICAN
BROTHERHOOD AFFILIATES,
C.A.R.E. AND M.A.S. -- THEY
WERE CONCERNED THAT THE
BROTHERHOOD WAS GOING TO
SURVIVE, JUST LIKE HAMAS DID
IN THE LATE '80s, BY
MOVING THEIR EFFORTS TO
EUROPE AND TO THE UNITED
STATES.
YOU KNOW, AS WE TALKED ABOUT
BEFORE, ERICK, HAMAS
SURVIVED FOR TWO YEARS IN
LATE '80s, WHEN THE
ISRAELIS HAD THEM ON THEIR
HEELS.
HAMAS SURVIVED OPERATING OUT
OF A CONDO IN SPRINGFIELD,
VIRGINIA, IN THE D.C. AREA.
Erick: NOT FAR FROM
WHERE WE'RE SITTING.
HAMAS IN ARM?
YES.
AND THE NUMBER TWO IN HAMAS
IS RUNNING HAMAS FROM
WASHINGTON, D.C.
AND THAT'S WHAT THE EYPTIANS
ARE CONCERNED TO SEE, SEEING
ANOTHER REPLAY OF THIS,
WHERE THE BROTHERHOOD IS
CLAMPED DOWN AND THEN THEY
BUILD THEIR POWER BASE.
MOHAMMED MORSI WAS RECRUITED
AS A MUSLIM STUDENT
ASSOCIATION MEMBER, OUT AT
U.S.C., IN SOUTHERN
CALIFORNIA.
Erick: HERE?
YES.
YOU HAVE THREE SENIOR MUSLIM
BROTHERHOOD OFFICIALS WHO
WERE ALL RECRUITED RIGHT
HERE IN THE UNITED STATES.
Erick: RYAN, WE HAVE
ABOUT 15 SECONDS LEFT.
OBAMA ADMINISTRATION, MUSLIM
BROTHERHOOD, STILL ALIGNED?
DO THEY STILL THINK THE
BROTHERHOOD ARE THE GOOD
DIE GUYS IN THE MIDDLE
EAST?
DEFINITELY.
AND THEY'RE SAYING THAT ISIS
IS A ZIONIST AMERICAN
CREATION, BUT ALSO SAYING WE
ARE THE MODERATE WHO ARE
CONDEMNING ISIS, EVEN IF
THEY'RE ADVANCING THE
PREMISES OF ISIS, THEY STILL
SAY THEY'RE THE MODERATES
THAT ARE THE SOLUTION.
Erick: AMAZING.
WE ARE THE COUNTER-WEIGHT TO
THE BAD GUYS IN AL-QAEDA.
SAME END GAME, CALIPHATE,
SHAR'IA LAW FOR ONE AND
ALL.
MORE WITH RYAN AND PATRICK,
TALKING IRAN, YEMEN.
MUCH MORE AFTER THE BREAK.
DON'T MOVE.
Erick: AND WELCOME
BACK.
WE'RE TALKING GLOBAL JIHAD,
ISLAMIC TERROR WITH PATRICK
POOLE OF PJMEDIA.COM, AND
RYAN MORROW.
A LOT OF TIMES I THINK ISIS
IS CAPTURING SUCH HEADLINES
THAT IRAN AND THE IRANIAN
REGIME GETS OVERSHADOWED A
BIT.
RYAN, TALK ABOUT WHY EVERY
AMERICAN SHOULD CARE ABOUT A
POTENTIALLY NUCLEAR IRAN?
THEY SAY THEY ARE
COMMITTED TO THE DOWNFALL OF
ALL NON-ISLAMIC GOVERNMENTS
AROUND THE ENTIRE WORLD, AND
THAT WOULD INCLUDE US.
AND AS THE PROXY WAR HEATS
UP BETWEEN IRAN AND SAUDI
ARABIA, THAT SPILLS OVER
DIRECTLY ON OUR SOIL.
THE SAUDIS TRIED TO KILL THE
AMBASSADOR TO WASHINGTON,
D.C. BY BLOWING UP A
RESTAURANT HE WAS GOING TO,
AND THAT WOULD HAVE KILLED
AMERICANS.
Erick: PATRICK, NOW IT
SEEMS THE OBAMA
ADMINISTRATION, FIRST
THEY'RE ROMANCING THE MUSLIM
BROTHERHOOD, AND NOW IT
SEEMS LIKE THEY'RE
BROMANCING THE IRO IRANIAN
REGIME.
TALK ABOUT WHY THAT STRATEGY
IS FLAWED, TO ALIGN
OURSELVES WITH THE IRANIAN
REGIME.
IT IS KIND OF AN IRANIAN
KIM SIM.
BEFORE 9/11, HEZBOLLAH HAD
KILLED MORE AMERICANS THAN
ANY OTHER TERRORIST GROUP IN
THE WORLD.
THEY WERE THE "A" TEAM OF
TERRORISM.
AND WE TALK ABOUT FOREIGN
FIGHTERS IN SYRIA -- IN
FACT, NOBODY REALLY TALKS
ABOUT THE FOREIGN SHI'A
FIGHTERS WHO ARE BACKING THE
ASSAD REGIME.
THERE ARE LONG LINES OF
HEZBOLLAH CASKETS FLOWING
BACK INTO LEBANON, HEZBOLLAH
FIGHTERS WHO HAVE BEEN
KILLED, I.R.G.C C.
COMMANDERS FROM IRAN.
THAT'S THE OTHER SIDE OF THE
EQUATION, THAT IRAN HAS
TREMENDOUS INTEREST IN
PROTECTING UP AND PROPPING
UP THE ASSAD REGIME SO
HEZBOLLAH IS NOT CUT OFF,
THAT THE SHI'A CRESCENT IS
REALLY SEVERED, AND
HEZBOLLAH IS IN A MUCH
WEAKER POSITION.
IRAN IS CONTINUING TO THROW
EVERYTHING THEY CAN INTO
THIS CALDRON THAT IS SYRIA,
WHICH THE ADMINISTRATION HAS
BEEN APPARENTLY ON EVERY
SIDE OF, DEPENDING ON THE
TIME OF THE DAY.
Erick: AND, RYAN, IT
SEEMS LIKE IRAN IS JUST ON
THE MARCH THROUGHOUT THE
REGION, WHETHER IT IS
LEBANON, SYRIA, IRAQ,
YEMEN.
TALK ABOUT THEIR
EXPANSIONIST GOALS IN THE
MIDDLE EAST.
IT IS OBVIOUSLY TO UNIFY
ALL OF THE SHI'ITES,
INCLUDING THE MINORITIES, IN
THE SUNNI ARAB COUNTRIES
UNDER THEIR HELM.
IT IS ACTUALLY EASIER THAN
WHAT MOST PEOPLE REALIZE.
WHAT YOU'RE SEEING THAT
HAPPENED IN YEMEN CAN BE
REPEATED IN SAUDI ARABIA.
BECAUSE ABOUT 90% OF THE
SAUDI OIL IS LOCATED IN THE
EASTERN PROVINCE.
THE REASON THAT IS
SIGNIFICANT IS BECAUSE THE
EASTERN PROVINCE IS MAJORITY
SHI'ITE.
SO THE IRANIANS CAN STIR IT
UP AND DIRECTLY THREATEN
THOSE OIL FIELDS, ON TOP OF
THE MORE OVERT THREAT FROM
THEIR MISSILES AND
EVERYTHING ELSE.
SO IF THE IRANIANS STIR UP
SHI'A UNREST THROUGHOUT THE
REGION, THEY CONTROL ENERGY
RESOURCES.
Erick: THAT'S A GREAT
POINT.
THE OIL FIELDS IN THE
EASTERN SAWED SAW, AND A
NIGHTMARE SCENARIO.
AND EVERY AMERICAN WOULD
FEEL THE PINCH.
AND IRAN'S INTERCONTINENTAL
BALLISTIC MISSILES -- YOU
DEVELOP THEM FOR ONE REASON,
TO MOUNT THEM WITH A NUCLEAR
WAR HEAD, BUT DON'T WORRY,
THEY'RE OUR FRIENDS NOW.
AND IT IS NOT CLEAR
ANYTHING THAT THEY'RE GIVING
UP.
Erick: A ONE-SIDED
DEAL, TO SAY THE LEAST.
PATRICK, BRING IN FULL
CIRCLE, I GUESS,
AL-QAEDA.
ISIS IS SUCH A MONITOR AND
GLOBAL PHENOMENON, IT SEEMS
TO OVERSHADOW OTHER BAD
ACTORS.
WHAT'S THE STATE OF
AL-QAEDA RIGHT NOW, WHICH
HAS FRANCHISES AROUND THE
GLOBE AS WELL.
WE'RE TALKING ABOUT
SYRIA, AND THEY'RE FRAN
CHISED THERE.
FRANCHISED THERE.
THEY JU JUST TOOK OVER THE
MAJOR CITY OF IDLIB, AND
THEY'RE MAKING AGAINST
TOWARDS THE MEDITERRANEAN
COAST, WHICH ARE STRONGHOLDS
OF THE ALAWITE ASSAD
REGIME.
AND YOU AND I HAVE BEEN
FOLLOWING THIS FOR A LONG
TIME, AND EVEN HERE IN
WASHINGTON, D.C., THERE WAS
AN ARTICLE IN FOREIGN
AFFAIRS HERE THIS YEAR THAT
WAS ADVOCATING FOR MODERATE
al-QAEDA AS A BASTION
AGAINST ISIS.
WE'VE GONE FROM MODERATE
MUSLIM BROTHERHOOD, MODERATE
HEZBOLLAH, MODERATE IRANIAN
REGIME, WHICH THE "NEW YORK
TIMES" WAS FLOATING A COUPLE
MONTHS AGO.
AND NOW WE'RE AT MODERATE
AL-QAEDA.
WE'RE RUNNING OUT OF
MODERATES.
Erick: AFTER THE BREAK,
GUYS, SOME SOLUTIONS TO,
POTENTIAL SOLUTIONS, WE'LL
DISCUSS.
MUCH MORE AFTER THE BREAK
WITH PATRICK POOLE AND RYAN
MORROW.
SO STICK AROUND.
Erick: AND WELCOME
BACK.
WE'RE WRAPPING UP WITH RYAN
MORROW AND PATRICK POOLE.
PATRICK, WE'LL START WITH
YOU,SOME FINAL THOUGHTS IN
THE BRIEF TIME WE HAVE.
WHAT IS NEXT?
WHAT CAN BE DONE?
ERICK, I THINK OUR
OPTIONS ARE EXTREMELY
LIMITED.
ONE OF THETHINGS WE'RE
HEARING IN WASHINGTON,
D.C. -- WE LOST THE IRAQ
WAR.
AND THAT REALLY HASN'T SUNK
INTO OUR POLITICAL MEDIA
CLASS.
WE LOST THE WAR.
WE HAVE EXTREMELY LIMITED
OPTIONS.
AND THEN WE HAVE THE OBAMA
ADMINISTRATION IN POWER.
SO IT'S GOING TO BE
DIFFICULT FOR THE UNITED
STATES TO EFFECT ANY KIND OF
OF SOLUTION TO THESE
PROBLEMS.
Erick: WE'LL SEE IN
2016.
RYAN, WHAT ABOUT YOU?
THIS AREA OF SYRIA CALLED
DOBVIK BECAUSE THEY BELIEVE
THEY ARE FULFILLING
END-TIMES PROPHECY, AND
THEY'LL TAKE OVER THIS AREA,
CALLED DOBVIK, AND HOLD THE
INFIDELS THERE, AND THAT
WILL COMMENCE A GREAT BATTLE
WHICH WILL TRIGGER THE END
TIMES, WHICH THEY THINK IS A
WONDERFUL THING.
SO IF THEIR PREMISES IS
BASED ON THEM HOLDING
DAVICK, USE IT AGAINST
THEM.
Erick: PATRICK POOLE
AND RYAN MORROW, CHECK OUT
THEIR GREAT WORK.
THESE GUYS ARE PROLIFIC AND
THEY'RE TWO OF THE BEST.
THANKS FOR JOINING US HERE
ON "THE WATCHMAN."
UNTIL NEXT TIME, REMEMBER,
NEVER HOLD YOUR PEACE.