- [Gordon] A newlywedgoes under the knife.

- I was about to be put under,

and waking up could eitherbe like really great news

or like really devastating news.

- [Gordon] See whathappens when she wakes up.

- He was like, oh there wasn't a tumor.

And I'm like these drugs are so strong.

- And the coffee shop prayer

that changed everything.

Plus civil rights gone wrong.

Pro-life factavist,Ryan Bomberger joins us.

That and more on today's700 Club Interactive.

Well welcome to the show.

New research shows only asmall number of Christians

read their bible on a daily basis.

- Well according to Lifewayonly a third of Americans

who regularly attend church say

they read the bible everyday.

About a quarter said theyread it a few times a week.

Lifeway research executivedirector, Bob McDonald

said, Jesus' prayer for his followers was

that they would be sanctifiedby the truth of God's word.

It's not surprisingthat the lives of those

who spend time reading theBible look more like Christ.

- And if you're havingtrouble making it everyday,

here's an easy fix, justhave an email service

that puts it into your inboxor something that flashes

up on your phone.- Good morning Gordon,

Jesus here.

- You know, knock knock.

At least you can getthrough a couple of verses,

and I encourage peopleto try a chapter a day.

It's an easy way actuallyof reading through the Bible

every single year.

And we've got Bible plansavailable on cbn.com.

It's more than one it's likea couple a chapters a day.

And if you do thatconsistently, and you get

reminded to do it consistently,

well then you can--- Habit.

- Yeah.

Habits are good.

- Yes.

- Well in 1995 a movie airedstarring Neil Patrick Harris,

it was called Not Our Son.

And it was about a serialarsonist terrorizing a state.

- The film tells the story of a father

who knew he had to go to the police.

For George and Margaret Keller, the movie

was more than just a made for TV drama.

It was the true story of their life.

- [Announcer] In the summer of 1992,

an arsonist began settingfires across Washington State.

For six months, more than 120 buildings

were destroyed leading to three deaths

and over $17,000,000 in property damage.

Authorities asked the public for help

finding the arsonist.

The Kellers remember it well.

- The first thing thatcaptured my attention

were the three pencilsketches and I looked,

and I said that looks like my son, Paul.

And my heart just stopped.

- Paul, you don't havea clue what you've done.

(dramatic music)

- [Announcer] As Christians,George and Margaret

knew what they had to do.

- No loving father is gonna want to even

believe that his childis capable of crimes,

much less something that is so horrendous,

but this is the truth,

the Lord gave me thestrength at that moment

to go and contact the arsontaskforce which I did.

- [Announcer] Paul wasarrested, plead guilty,

and was sentenced to 99 yearsin prison without parole.

For George and Margaret itbecame the beginning of a

different kind of sentence.

- I would think giving up your son

which was real, would merit support,

instead of abandonment,but then the first person

that left us was our pastor at that time.

- Everybody just walked away.

And I still don't get that.

- [Announcer] For the next three years,

George and Margaret plummetedinto financial despair

when their marketing business collapsed.

- All my business clients just went away.

And I began to just sink.

We lost the home, we lost our savings,

ending up on welfare,going through bankruptcy,

and devastation, all the while knowing

that we did what was right.

- [Announcer] They alsostruggled emotionally.

- I felt like a darkdepression just settling down.

The kind that's debilitating.

- Depression, severe anxiety,post traumatic stress,

all those things were going on.

I was just a wreck, cause it was hell.

And I did ask the Lordmany times to take me home.

Please Lord, this is enough, take me.

- [Announcer] For a timethey got help through

Christian counseling andprescription medication.

But it wasn't enough.

So the Kellers continued to pray,

and clung to their faith.

- In the middle of thedarkness, my anchor of faith

in the Lord Jesus held.

I was being strengthenedto just live another day,

and another day, and another day.

- My prayer was Lord Idon't know if you're gonna

bring me out of this or not.

But if I'm ever wellfrom this, and you could

ever use this to just help one person,

then as much as I don't wantto, I'm willing to stay.

- [Announcer] One morning, Margaret woke

up feeling different.

- The depression's gone.

The anxiety is gone.

The feeling of beingso traumatized is gone.

All those conditions thatI had had were replaced

with total joy, and I had such a freedom,

and it was a healing, itwas a gift from the Lord.

- I reached a tipping pointwhen I was able to look

in the mirror and said,I'm not depressed anymore,

and that was very significant to me.

And since then I have not experienced

what I would call beinga depressed person.

- [Announcer] Over time,they stabilized financially.

And also found communitywith people who welcomed

them with open arms.

- Christian folks, who Ihave met through the years,

who are more loving andtender than any family

that I could ever know,

standing with us in prayer all this way.

- [Announcer] Today, Paulcontinues to serve his sentence,

while George and Margaretrun their own ministry,

and share their story of overcoming grief

everywhere they go.

- I believe I love Jesusmore through all this.

- Jesus said, I will neverleave you nor forsake you.

He did not lie.

When you say Jesus hereI am, it is enough,

he loves you so much he isgoing to bring you through.

- More of the untold stories,

what happens to the parents of children

who commit these horrible crimes.

For them it was a son committing arson,

but we're seeing it overand over again in today's

culture with the number ofextreme acts of violence,

and the parents left wonderinghow could this ever happen?

And it seems to go beyond mental illness

where that seems to bea convenient explanation

but we're getting into shootings now,

and things that there's nohistory of any mental illness.

And what do you do as a parent?

- Well I think becausethese people are willing

to surrender and put theirpain, and their grief,

and their depression on the alter.

God's now using them tosure up the lives of others.

I think of the scripture that says,

thou wilt keep him in perfectpieces, mind is stayed

on thee because he trusts in thee.

In mean, these people came out victorious

from a scathing furnaceto me of many things.

I'm sure there was blame from some people.

- Oh absolutely.

- And even blame for turning in their son.

- And they said that they were shunned.

- Yeah.

- The community shunned them,

their church shunned them.

And they had no explanation for why.

You know the verse that comes to me is,

yeah thou I walk through thevalley of the shadow of death.

We keep wanting God todeliver us from that valley.

- Yeah.

- But if there's somethingthat happens in that walk

through it where you comeout on the other side,

and you say, yes, his promises are true,

he will never leave you,he will never forsake you.

Well coming up, he sayshe was conceived in rape

but adopted and loved.

Ryan Bomberger is here totell us about civil rights

gone wrong, you don'twant to miss his powerful

story, that's up next.

(upbeat music)

- Fredrick Douglas oncesaid I still see before me

a life of trials, butjustice must be done,

the truth must be told,I will not be silent.

Our next guest says whilemany things have changed

civil rights have gone wrong.

Take a look.

- [Announcer] Ryan Bomberger grew up

with 12 other siblings.

Nine were adopted including him.

When Ryan was 13, he found out that his

biological mother became pregnant with him

after she was raped.

The news left him devastated.

But soon Ryan realized,he had a story to tell.

In his book, Not Equal,Ryan educates others

on the horrors of the abortion industry,

and offers powerful proof that triumph can

come from tragedy.

- Ryan Bomberger joins us now.

Welcome to the show first of all.

But Ryan I think the kids struggle

with the whole adoption issue in general.

Now your story is that youwere conceived when your

mom experienced a rape.

Tell me what you went through.

I mean here you are justin your early teen years

and you're trying to swallow that.

I mean how did you deal with that?

- It was crazy but becauseI was loved like crazy

by my parents, helped keep me stable.

But when you find out at 13that your earlier narrative

was false, wasn't right,it's a little disconcerting

you could say.

But because I had parents who loved me

and always encouragedme to express myself,

you know in a family of15 if you don't express

yourself you get lost in the mix.

It was really a painfultime because for so long

I wondered why didn't she want me,

why didn't she want me.

And it transformed into,wow she chose to be

stronger than her circumstance.

She loved me enough to give me the chance

to love and be loved.

And so it was a really difficult time.

But God turned it intosomething really constructive

and powerful years down the road.

- You know, Ryan when we talk about

abortion in our culturetoday, there are some

scenarios that we leave as outs, you know,

if the baby is severelydamaged in some way,

if the mother's life isthreatened, if rape has occurred.

- Right.

- I mean, God has madesomething so amazingly beautiful

out of your story.

Well handsome too.

Yeah that too.- No I didn't mean me.

(laughing)

- But in the blackcommunity abortion is huge.

How many kids a day?

- Well there in a year 259,000,

and that can equate toaround 800, 850 a year,

some people round it up to a thousand,

we don't actually have exact numbers cause

the federal government doesn't keep them.

But among Planned Parenthood,the leading abortion

organization in the country, 247 each day.

- [Terry] Wow.

- I mean that's, people talkabout black lives matter

well when do they matter?

They should matter in and out of the womb.

- And why aren't we hearingthat from civil rights leaders.

Why have they drunk thekool-aid so to speak.

It's like everybody, the woman's right

has taken such precedent in our culture

that the child is nowcalled blob of tissue,

I mean it's just likeeverything's gotten out of whack.

- Right not a person.

I mean it's even moreironic that civil rights

organization, particularlyAfrican American

led organizations, whohave fought for people

with my complexion to beconsidered human beings,

are now considering anothergroup of human beings

less than human.

I mean the irony ofusing the 14th amendment

to say, wait a minuteI'm sorry woman deserve

the right to end the life,actually not even woman,

abortionists, mostly male.

Abortionists get toend the life of a child

because that individualis not human enough,

is not a person.

And so trying to fightthat irony with my book

Not Equal: Civil Rights Gone Wrong,

is part of the mix, part of what we do

through the Radiance Foundation.

But it pains me to seeonce great civil rights

organization siding withan industry that kills

the image of God.

- Your parents obviously hada different way of thinking,

a different way of seeingthe world, a different

way of valuing life, I look at that

and I think how do wetranslate that to people,

how do you through the Radiance Foundation

in your organization finda way to share that truth

every life matters?

- Yeah.

- It doesn't diminish black lives matter.

- Not at all.- It means every life matters.

- Right.

Every life matters.

And growing up with two parentswho firmly believed that,

who believed that we'recreated in the image of God,

they believe that every child is precious,

and every child deserves to be loved.

In my family we have thosewith physical disabilities,

those who came from horrific backgrounds,

physical abuse or sexual abuse.

But my parents understood that God's

love transforms everything.

It may not delivery usfully this side of heaven

but it is transformative.

And so when you grow up withparents who believe that

and they infuse that intoeverything that they do,

I can't help but share that same passion.

- You know in our family wehave five adopted children,

two that are biologically born.

But I remember when we found out

that our last three came from a

very violent, difficult background.

My husband said do youthink that's a red light?

And I said, I don't thinkso, because if not us, who?

Talk about adoption,the Christian community,

God's plan, how he sees us.

I mean we need to get the message.

- Ephesians 1:5, I mean Godpredecen us through adoption,

he understood that thisprocess was how we become

members of this family.- [Judy] Was his idea.

- Yes.

And I love, my wife Bethany,my amazing wife Bethany

and I have four kids,two of them are adopted,

and people don't understandthere's such powerful

biblical examples, howabout the most important

one, the one literally changes the world

and changes our lives,and we find in genealogy

for instance of Christ,it does not end with Mary,

it ends with Joesph.

- Yeah.

- So you're talking abouta story of adoption there.

That literally transformed the world

and so we just try toencourage people to understand

that adoption is God's plan, and that it's

how we become part of his family.

That there's no salvation without it.

And so as advocates of adoption,

wherever we go throughthe Radiance Foundation,

we encourage people to pray on it,

you know just don't jumpinto it, pray and ask

God if he's moving yourheart toward adoption.

- One of the things I think it requires is

some selflessness.

Have we in our culture,do you think become

so needing what we want,what we think is significant,

that we're unwilling tobe sacrificial at all

in the way that we live.

- The true sign of astrong society is the way

that we're willing to giveup something of ourselves,

self sacrifice makes us a better culture,

makes us a better society.

And adoption is a beautiful act of love

and self sacrifice.

But we're living in anincreasing narcicisstic society

that's all about me, andforgetting that Christ

is always calling for us totake care the least of these.

- Your book is called, NotEqual: Civil Rights Gone Wrong.

What do you mean by that?

- An industry that's been hijacked by,

you know, for instancethe abortion industry,

by Planned Parenthood,that is seeing humanity

in a whole differentlight instead of seeing us

as precious and as irreplaceable.

It's an industry that'sbeen taken over by those

who see individuals and human beings as

almost as commodities,as a revenue generator.

And so you know we talkabout so many different

issues in here, we talkabout fatherlessness,

we talk about poverty,talk about of course the

abortion industry,adoption, and even groups

like the NAACP, who I would of thought

would of been on our side.

When you talk aboutracism, you can't help but

talk about the systemic racismof the abortion industry.

And so when I talk about being not equal,

someone with a storylike mine that would be

easily written off considered less unequal

because of the circumstancesof my conception.

But those circumstances don't change

the condition of my worth.

- And they didn't surprise God a bit.

(laughing)

I wanna mention Ryan's book is called,

Not Equal: Civil Rights Gone Wrong.

You know it does addressso many of the cultural

issues we all face today.

We need to read books like this,

think about it and then standon God's side on these issues.

You can get a copy by visiting cbn.com.

Well up next, doctorsgive a young newlywed

some shocking news.

- We need to act quicklybecause if this thing

erupts or it bursts, it will be spreading

cancer cells like all inside your abdomen.

- [Terry] How prayers from strangers

resulted in a miracle,and we're gonna be praying

for you, don't go away.

(soft music)

- Megan Thompson was toldshe had a baseball size

mass on one of her ovaries,and then after hearing

that report, she decided to goto the hospital coffee shop.

While there, she felt likeshe should ask for prayer

from a table of strangers.

Turns out, they were Christians,

and she was about to experience a miracle.

- Cam and I met rock climbing.

We actually both went to the same college.

Our wedding was gorgeous.

We had our wedding on thespot where I got baptized.

So that's when everything came to a head.

I felt like I had issues,and pain, and like discomfort

from like early adolescents.

Used to really feel alot of pain in my abdomen

when I would exercise,and so that's kinda when

I started exercising was college,

and that's when I realizedsomething isn't right,

but since I didn't have health insurance

I was never able toreally check anything out.

You know, I'm gettingmarried, I'll finally

have health insurance so I could go see

a gynecologist and figureout what was going on.

I think it was within the first two weeks

I came back from our honeymoon.

When I finally had like a real exam

they realized my uterus was tilted,

and they're like okaymaybe something's in there,

and that's when they did an ultrasound.

And he called me in and I think he asked

for my husband to come, and so I was like

oh okay, this might be moreserious than I thought it was.

He basically explainedthat there was a mass

on one of my ovaries.

It was seven and a half centimeters.

And he explained thereare walls growing through,

it's septic.

So we need to act quicklybecause if this thing

erupts or bursts or if we try to go in

and we basically burstit, it will be spreading

cancer cells like all inside your abdomen.

They don't go away on their own,

so we need to cut from yournavel down to your pubic bone,

it's six or seven inches.

And she goes, we'll have to dolike a partial hysterectomy.

Once we do pathology we'llknow if it's cancer or not.

I just thought like, okayGod if this is your story

for me and the sufferingwell is how you want me

to be a lighthouse to peoplethen I pray that I do it well.

After my preop appointmentI went to a coffee shop

near the hospital.

I felt like I was supposedto talk to this certain

table that was sitting in the cafe.

I just kinda walked up to the table

and I was like, hey areyou guys Christians.

And he was like, yeah I'm a pastor.

And they were like, yeah we're believers,

what do you need prayer for?

And I'm like, well I'mgoing for surgery tomorrow,

I have a tumor and they don'tknow if it's cancer or not,

and so they just likeliterally laid hands on me

like in the middle of thecoffee shop and prayed

so bold and powerfully over me.

I didn't feel physically different.

I just left there beinglike, thank you for

that encounter Lord,that was really special.

The next morning it was an early surgery.

It was weird to know that Iwas about to be put under,

and waking up could eitherbe like really great news

or like really devastating news.

They had Cam in the room when I woke up.

And the first words outof my mouth were just,

is it cancer?

He was like, oh there wasn't a tumor.

And I'm like, oh manthese drugs are so strong.

Was it cancer, you know?

And he's like, they didn't find anything.

My oncologist came in.

And first thing out ofhis mouth were like,

I swear this never happens.

Did you take out theovary and fallopian tube?

He goes, I couldn't take it.

Like morally I couldn't take it out.

It was a perfectly healthy ovary.

And I just remember thosewords like perfectly healthy.

And then he explained, Iwent through inch by inch,

every bit of your intestines.

He goes, I palpatedevery organ in your body,

and he said, I couldn't find anything,

there was just nothing there.

Your uterus is in the positionit was supposed to be in,

it's not tilted anymore.

And there's no evidence exceptfor the ultrasound of it.

I'm a normal patientjust like anyone else.

There is no evidence whatsoever,

not in my blood, not inmy body, not in the scans.

I've had two wonderful surprise babies.

Flora is three and Clementine is one.

We've been married four years.

I have like no pain or anything that

I used to experience before.

It's so funny to look at life post tumor

because it really is so free.

Sometimes we think God'sgoing to do something

we think there is like a certain platform

that he wants to use in our life.

Like I thought that the platform that God

wanted to use for my lifewas like to suffer well.

But he actually hadhealing in mind for me.

There's hope in that.

- And he's got healing in mind for you.

Realize Jesus suffered sothat you don't have to.

Now there are some thatare called into the

fellowship of suffering,and Jesus promises

that we're gonna havetribulation in this world.

But then he says, be ofgood cheer for I have

overcome the world.

So when bad things happen,when bad news happens,

do what Megan did, gofind some Christians,

and let's say Jesus is the answer to this.

And he will see you through.

For Megan, it was a wonderful miracle.

Where what was a seven centimeter tumor

turned out to be zero.

No longer there.

And then on top of it,and God doesn't do things

half way on top of it, atilted uterus becomes normal,

everything about her is normal,

and two wonderful children.

That's what God has in store for you.

He's got a plan, he's got a purpose.

That plan and purposeis not for suffering.

That plan and purpose is to give you hope

and a future.

And that hope and future look to,

look to him, because he is the author

and finisher of all our faith.

Now we're gonna pray,before we pray Terry's

got some prayer requests thathave come in on Facebook.

- I do.

Ruth says asking forprayers for my daughter

Crystal to be delivered from depression.

Sherline writes, pray for my grandson.

He is 18 and having panic attacks.

His name is Bailey.

And then Lidia says,please pray for complete

health and financial breakthrough.

Also that my son Michaeland family will have

an encounter with the Lord.

- Well let's pray for theseand let's pray for you.

Lord we just lift theseneeds to you right now.

And we come against any depression now,

anyone who has depression we speak life,

we speak liberty, we speak righteousness,

peace, and joy.

For anyone suffering from panic attacks.

Fear is torment.

So we ask for your perfect love to come in

and cast out all that fear.

Let them know that you have their future,

they can rest in you.

They can find rest with you.

For anyone having financial difficulties,

Lord God be their provider.

They're all sufficientone, be there for them.

Supply every need accordingto your riches and glory.

And for those praying for their children,

for their grandchildren,Lord send messengers after

your own heart, let themhave encounters with you,

manifest your presence in their lives.

We ask it all, Terry God's giving.

- Yeah, I believe thereare, this is either a person

or it may be multipleparents, that you have just

been praying, you're righton the verge of giving up

because you've prayed so long and so hard,

don't stop praying, it'sright around the corner,

your children are coming to Christ.

Stay on your knees forthem, contend for them

in Jesus' name.

- There's someone youhave a recurring pain

and it's in your right eyeand goes up into your sinus

cavity above your eye,God is healing all that.

If there's any infection we rebuke it now

in Jesus name, we say behealed and be pain free,

in the name of Jesus, Amen.

Amen.- [Terry] Amen

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Call us 1-800-700-7000.

Here's a word from James.

Pray for one another,that you may be healed.

The effective, fervent prayers of a

righteous man avails much.

God bless you, well see you again.