This week on Jerusalem Dateline: President Obama secures support for Iran nuclear deal; critics say it will let Iran cross nuke threshold; plus does ISIS really have a plan to conquer the world? and migrants flood Europe will Europe still be Europe
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Chris: THIS WEEK ON
"JERUSALEM DATELINE,"
PRESIDENT OBAMA CROSSES
THE THRESHOLD WITH THE
PRESIDENTIAL VETO ON THE
IRANIAN NUCLEAR DEAL.
BUT CRITICS SAY THE
AGREEMENT WILL LINK IRAN
ACROSS THE NUCLEAR
THRESHOLD, AND PUT ISRAEL
AND THE UNITED STATES IN
PERIL.
PLUS, ISIS, WHAT YOU
SHOULD KNOW.
DO THEY REALLY HAVE A PLAN
TO TAKE OVER THE WORLD?
AND EUROPE PLACES A WAVE
OF MIGRANTS, AND SOME
WONDER IF EUROPE WILL
STILL BE EUROPE WHEN THE
FLOOD SUBSIDES.
HELLO, AND WELCOME TO THIS
EDITION OF "JERUSALEM
DATELINE." I'M CHRIS
MITCHELL.
THEY CHANT DEATH TO
AMERICA IN IRAN, EVEN SO,
PRESIDENT OBAMA JUST GOT
ENOUGH VOTES THIS WEEK SO
HIS NUCLEAR DEAL CAN PASS
THE SENATE.
THAT'S DESPITE WARNINGS
THE PLAN WILL CLEAR THE
WAY FOR IRAN TO BUILD
NUCLEAR WEAPONS.
EVEN AFTER THEY'VE MADE AN
AGREEMENT WITH THE UNITED
STATES AND FIVE OTHER
WORLD POWERS.
IRAN'S LEADERS ARE STILL
MAKING IT CLEAR THEY
CONSIDER THE U.S. THE
GREAT SATAN.
GEORGE THOMAS HAS THE
STORY.
George: AT THE STATE
DEPARTMENT, OFFICIALS
CONTINUE TO STRESS THE
PRESIDENT'S STATEMENT,
THAT THE U.S. WOULD STILL
IMPOSE FURTHER SANCTIONS
SHOULD IRAN CHANGE ITS
BEHAVIOR TOWARDS THE DEAL.
AND THAT THE PLAN WOULD
PREVENT IRAN FROM BECOMING
A NUCLEAR POWER.
WE'VE BEEN VERY CLEAR
ABOUT WHAT THIS AGREEMENT
IS ABOUT.
IT IS ABOUT STOPPING IRAN
FROM GETTING A NUCLEAR
WEAPON.
George: BUT OPPONENTS
LIKE RETIRED GENERAL JERRY
BOYKIN SAYS THE DEAL WILL
ACTUALLY HAVE THE OPPOSITE
EFFECT.
THIS IS, IN FACT, A
PATHWAY TO IRAN HAVING A
NUCLEAR WEAPON.
George: BOYKIN AND
NEARLY 2 OTHER RETIRED
GENERALS AND ADMIRALS
APPEALED TO CONGRESS IN A
LETTER LAST WEEK TO REJECT
THE DEAL.
BOYKINS SAYS THE AGREEMENT
ALSO GIVES IRAN ACCESS TO
MORE MONEY TO FUND TERROR
GROUPS AROUND THE WORLD.
THERE IS GOING TO BE A
LARGE AMOUF MEY,
$150 BILLION -- I'VE HEARD
ESTIMATES OVER A FIVE-YEAR
PERIOD THAT RUN AS MUCH AS
$700 BILLION -- THAT IS
GOING TO GO INTO THE
COFFERS OF A VERY ROGUE
ISLAMIC REGIME, WHO IS THE
BIGGEST SPONSOR OF
TERRORISM.
THAT MEANS THAT HEZBOLLAH,
HAMAS, AND OTHER TERRORIST
ORGANIZATIONS ARE GOING TO
GET A LOT OF MONEY, WHICH
THEY CAN USE AGAINST THEIR
TWO PRIMARY ENEMIES, WHICH
IS ISRAEL AND AMERICA.
George: AS CHANCES OF
STOPPINGHE DEAL DWINDLE,
REPUBLICANS ARE PLANNING
TO PUSH NEW LEGISLATION
FOR SANCTIONS, TARGETING
THE FINANCES OF IRANIAN
INSTITUTIONS THAT SUPPORT
TERROR.
ONE OF THEM IS TEHRAN'S
ELITE MILITARY UNIT, THE
ISLAMIC REVOLUTIONARY
GUARDS.
ON TUESDAY, THE UNIT'S
COMMANDER ISSUED THIS
WARNING.
AMERICA IS STILL THE
GREAT SATAN.
George: A SENTIMENT
THAT WAS ALSO ECHOED THE
SAME DAY DURING THE
OPENING SESSION OF IRAN'S
POWERFUL CLERICAL BODY.
THIS NUCLEAR DEAL, WILL
UNDER, NO CIRCUMSTANCES,
ALTER OUR COUNTRY'S
FOREIGN POLICY.
THE ISLAMIC REPUBLIC OF
IRAN CONSIDERS THE U.S.
ITS NUMBER ONE ENEMY.
George: GEORGE
THOMAS, CBN NEWS.
Chris: SENATOR TOM
COTTON FROM ARKANSAS IS
ONE OF THE MOST OUTSPOKEN
CRITICS OF THE IRAN
NUCLEAR DEAL.
HE VISITED ISRAEL THIS
WEEK AND EXPLAINED TO US
WHY HE SAYS THIS AGREEMENT
MAY BE ONE OF THE WORST IN
AMERICAN HISTORY.
SENATOR COTTON, THANK YOU
FOR BEING WITH US RIGHT
NOW.
IT IS GREAT TO BE HERE
WITH YOU.
Chris: WHAT DO YOU
SEE AS THE FLAWS IN THE
IRAN NUCLEAR DEAL?
THERE ARE MULTIPLE
FLAWS.
I THINK IT IS DANGEROUS
FOR THE UNITED STATES.
DANGEROUS FOR OUR AL ALLIES
LIKE ISRAEL AND FOR WORLD
PEACE.
FIRST, IN THE IMMEDIATE
AND NON-NUCLEAR DIMENSION,
WE'RE GOING TO GIVE TENS
OF BILLIONS OF DOLLARS IN
IMMEDIATE SANCTIONS RELIEF
TO A GOVERNMENT THAT IS
STILL THE WORLD'S WORST
STATE SPONSOR OF
TERRORISM, THAT HAS THE
BLOOD OF HUNDREDS OF
AMERICAN SOLDIERS IN IRAQ
AND AFGHANISTAN ON ITS
HANDS, AND STILL CHANTS
DEATH TO AMERICA AND DEATH
TO ISRAEL IN THE STREETS.
SECOND, EVEN IF IRAN
FOLLOWS THE DEAL TO THE
LETTER, THEY'RE GOING TO
BE A NUCLEAR THRESHOLD
STATE IN A MERE 10 TO 15
YEARS, WHICH PRIME
MINISTER NETANYAHU SAID IS
THE BLINK OF AN EYE IN THE
LIFE OF NATIONS.
THIRD, IRAN,
UNFORTUNATELY, DOESN'T
HAVE A REPUTATION OR
HISTORY OF FOLLOWING ITS
INTERNATIONAL OBLIGATIONS.
SO THEY'RE LIKELY TO
DEVELOP NUCLEAR WEAPONS
CAPABILITY WELL BEFORE THE
10 TO 15-YEAR PERIOD
CONCLUDES.
Chris: HOW DO YOU
FIND OUT ABOUT THE SECRET
DEALS BETWEEN THE IAEA AND
IRAN?
WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT
THAT?
THERE ARE TWO SECRET
SIDE DEALS BETWEEN IRAN
AND THE ATOMIC NUCLEAR
AGENCY.
ONE WOULD HAVE TO DO WITH
THE MILITARY BASE WHERE WE
BELIEVE IRAN TESTED
NUCLEAR DETONATORS.
AND THE SECOND IS IRAN'S
NUCLEAR PROGRAM CH, WHICH IS
A CRITICAL PROGRAM OF
INSPECTING THAT.
IT WOULD BE LIKE STARTING
A DIET WITHOUT KNOWING
YOUR STARTING WEIGHT.
IT IS THE UNITED STATES
GOVERNMENT THAT HAS THE
OBLIGATION TO EXPOSE THOSE
SIDE AGREEMENTS TO US
BECAUSE THERE IS FEDERAL
LAW THAT REQUIRES IT.
THE ADMINISTRATION, STILL
TO THIS DAY, HAS NOT
OBTAINED THE AGREEMENTS,
AND THEY HAVE NOT PROVIDED
THEM TO THE CONGRESS OR
THE AMERICAN PEOPLE.
EVEN THOUGH THEY ARE NOT
JUST GOVERNMENT DOCUMENTS.
THEY WEREN'T OBTAINED
THROUGH SENSITIVE,
CLANDESTINE METHODS.
AND IRAN KNOWS WHAT THEY
AGREED TO.
I THINK THE UNITED STATES
GOVERNMENT SHOULD OBTAIN
THE AGREEMENTS AND EXPOSE
THE AGREEMENTS.
THE ASSOCIATED PRESS
REPORTED WHAT WAS THE MORE
NARROW AND LIMITED
AGREEMENT, WHICH WOULD
ESSENTIALLY ALLOW IRAN TO
INSPECT ITSELF.
KIND OF LIKE LETTING AN
NFL PLAYER TAKE HIS OWN
DRUG TEST AT HOME AND MAIL
IT IN TO ROGER GOODELL SO
HE CAN ESTABLISH HIS
ELIGIBILITY.
Chris: WHY IS THIS SO
SIGNIFICANT AND IMPORTANT
TO THE AMERICAN PEOPLE?
THE NUCLEAR DEAL IS
SIGNIFICANT BECAUSE OF THE
NATURE OF THE IRANIAN
REGIME.
THERE ARE PLENTY OF
COUNTRIES THAT ARE NUCLEAR
THRESHOLD CAPABLE.
JAPAN IS PROBABLY THE BEST
EXAMPLE.
THE AMERICAN PEOPLE DON'T
WORRY ABOUT JAPAN AND ITS
NUCLEAR POWER PROGRAM
BECAUSE JAPAN IS A
PEACEFUL, CONSTITUTIONAL
DEMOCRACY.
IRAN, HOWEVER, IS RUN BY
RADICAL CLERICS WHO
CONTINUALLY CHANT DEATH TO
AMERICA AND DEATH TO
ISRAEL IN THE STREET, LED
BY THEIR NATIONAL
LEADERSHIP.
THEY HAVE THE BLOOD OF
HUNDREDS OF AMERICANS ON
THEIR HANDS FROM THE WARS
IN IRAQI AND AFGHANISTAN.
THEY CONTINUE TO TRY TO
KILL JEWS ALL AROUND THE
WORLD.
NOT JUST IN ISRAEL, BUT IN
PLACES LIKE BULGARIA AND
ARGENTINA.
AND THEY'RE DESTABILIZING
THE ENTIRE MIDDLE EAST.
AND THEY'RE PROPPING UP
BASHAR al-ASSAD.
WE'RE GOING TO GIVE THEM
TENS OF BILLIONS OF
DOLLARS, WE'RE GOING TO
LIFT SANCTIONS ON THEIR
OIL AND OTHER ECONOMIC
TRACTIONS, AND WE'RE GOING
TO LIFT THE INTERNATIONAL
ARMS EMBARGO, AND
ULTIMATELY LIFT SANCTIONS
ON THEIR BALLISTIC
PROGRAM, AND ALL THE WHILE
ALLOWING THEM TO DEVELOP
THEIR NUCLEAR PROGRAM.
SO WHAT DOES THAT MEAN?
THAT MEANS IN JUST A FEW
YEARS, IRAN WILL HAVE A
STRONGER ECONOMY, AND THEY
WITHSTAND FUTURE SANCTIONS
IF THEY CHEAT ON A DEAL,
AND THEY'LL HAVE A
STRONGER CONVENTIONAL
ARMY.
Chris: DO YOU THINK
THIS DEAL COULD LEAD TO
WAR IN THE MIDDLE EAST?
I THINK THIS DEAL IS
MORE LIKELY TO PRODUCE A
WAR, RATHER THAN THE
OPPOSITE, LIKE PRESIDENT
OBAMA INTENDED.
AGAIN, THE OPPOSITE OF
WHAT PRESIDENT OBAMA
INTENDED.
IN PART BECAUSE IT SHOWS
THAT THE UNITED STATES IS
NOT WILLING TO PLAY A
TRADITIONAL ROLE OF BEING
A FORCE OR STABILITY
THROUGHOUT THE REGION.
AND WE ARE ENCOURAGING
OTHER COUNTRIES, LIKE
SAUDI ARABIA, OR UNIT ARAB
EMIRATES, TO TAKE THEIR
OWN PATH, TO PERHAPS GET
THEIR OWN NUCLEAR WEAPONS,
WHICH IS WHAT SOME LEADERS
OF THOSE COUNTRIES HAVE
SUGGESTED PUBLICLY, AND
MANY HAVE SUGGESTED
PRIVATELY TO ME AND OTHER
MEMBERS OF THE UNITED
STATES CONGRESS.
Chris: SENATOR,
APPRECIATE YOUR TIME.
THANK YOU.
Chris: UP NEXT, IT IS
THE WORST REFUGEE CRISIS
SINCE WORLD WAR II.
MIDDLE EASTERN AND
NORTHERN AFRICAN REFUGEES
ARE SWARMING EUROPE, AND
MANY WONDER WHEN IT WILL
STOP.
Chris: WELCOME BACK
TO "JERUSALEM DATELINE."
REFUGEES FROM SYRIA, IRAQ,
AFGHANISTAN, AND NORTH
AFRICA ARE POURING INTO
EUROPE.
TRAGICALLY, MANY HAVE DIED
ON THEIR JOURNEY.
BUT WHAT HAPPENS IF THE
MIGRANT SEARCH DOESN'T
STOP.
DALE HURD REPORTS FROM
STOCKHOLM AND BRUSSELS.
Reporter: IT IS A
STAGGERING HUMANITARIAN
CRISIS.
THE LARGEST REFUGEE INFLUX
SINCE WORLD WAR II.
MORE THAN 300,000 AFRICANS
AND ASIANS HAVE CROSSED
EUROPE'S BORDER THIS YEAR,
DOUBLE LAST YEAR'S PACE.
HUNDREDS MORE HAVE DIED
TRYING IN JUST THE PAST
FEW WES.
BUT THE OTHER SIDE OF THIS
TRAGEDY IS HOW IT WILL
CHANGE EUROPE.
NON-WESTERN MIGRANTS HAD
ALREADY BEEN FLOODING INTO
EUROPE FOR DECADES.
LEADERS REFUSED TO STOP IT
FOR MANY REASONS.
SOME SAW MIGRANTS AT CHEAP
LABOR.
OTHERS WERE BEING AFRAID
OF BEING BRANDED RACIST
FOR OPPOSING IT.
BUT EXPERTS WERE ASKING IF
EUROPE WOULD STILL BE
EUROPE IF IMMIGRANTS SOME
DAY OUTNUMBERED NATIVES.
IT IS INCREASINGLY
CLEAR IN WESTERN EUROPEAN
COUNTRIES THAT AS THE
POPULATION APPROACH A
TIPPING POINT, THERE ARE
INCREASING GROUPS OF
PEOPLE WHO ARE ESSENTIALLY
ASKING THE QUESTION, IF
THE POLITICAL
ESTABLISHMENT CONTINUES TO
GET ITS WAY, IN FIVE, 10,
20 YEARS TIME, HOW MANY
GERMANS ARE GOING TO BE
LEFT IN GERMANY, HOW MANY
ENGLISH PEOPLE ARE GOING
TO BE LEFT IN ENGLISH.
Reporter: THIS FRENCH
WRITER CALLS THE INFLUX
THE GREAT REPLACEMENT, AND
SAYS IT IS THE BIGGEST
THING TO HAPPEN TO FRANCE
SINCE THE 15th CENTURY.
BECAUSE WHAT IS
HAPPENING IS THE
POPULATION IS CHANGING.
CAN FRANCE BE THE SAME
WITH DIFFERENT PEOPLE?
OBVIOUSLY, THE ANSWER IS
NO.
Reporter: FOR YEARS,
SWEDEN HAS TAKEN IN MORE
MIGRANTS PER CAPITA THAN
ANY OTHER EUROPEAN NATION,
AND THE EXPERIMENT HAS NOT
GONE WELL.
SEGREGATION AND
UNEMPLOYMENT AMONG
MIGRANTS REMAIN HIGH.
PREDOMINANTLY MIGRANT
GANGS HAVE DEVELOPED THE
HABIT RECENTLY OF THROWING
HAND GRENADES DURING EACH
OTHER DURING STREET
BATTLES.
SOME AREAS HAVE BECOME
DANGEROUS FOR LAW
ENFORCEMENT TO ENTER.
OFFICIALS DENIED THAT THE
AREAS ARE NO-GO ZONES, BUT
WHAT WAS DESCRIBED TO US
CERTAINLY SOUNDED LIKE
NO-GO ZONES.
POLICE OFFICERS AND
ALSO FIRE AND AMBULANCE
SERVICES, THEY'RE COMING
TO THESE AREAS AND THEY
ARE ATTACKED.
THEY ARE -- THE KIDS ARE
THROWING STONES AT THEM.
THERE ARE MORE OR LESS
RIOTS.
THERE ARE FIREARMS,
HANDGUNS, ESPECIALLY.
Reporter: THIS
SWEDISH ECONOMIST, TINO
SANANDAJI, SAYS HIS
ECONOMY FACES COLLAPSE.
YOU DON'T HAVE TO BE A
NOSTRODAMUS TO PREDICT THE
FUTURE.
YOU CAN GO TO THE CITIES
THAT ARE 20 YEARS AHEAD
DEMOGRAPHICALLY, AND
THAT'S WHAT SWEDEN IS
GOING TO BE.
AND OF THE 300
MUNICIPALITIES, IT IS THE
BOTTOM 10.
EMPLOYMENT, UNEMPLOYMENT,
SCHOOL OUTCOMES, POVERTY.
Reporter: SWEDISH
IMMIGRATION POLICY DOESN'T
WORK, THE STATISTICS
CLEARLY PROVE IT.
SO WHY IS SWEDEN BRINGING
IN MORE AND MORE IM
IMMIGRANTS?
AND WHY ARE OPPONENTS IN
SWEDEN AND OTHER NATIONS
BRANDED AS RACIST.
IT BASICALLY MAKES THE
PASSAGE MORE DANGEROUS
WITH FENCES.
Reporter: THEY SAY IT
HAS BECOME A KIND OF
RELIGIOUS SUBSTITUTE.
IF YOU WANT TO SORT OF
PSYCHOLOGYIZE, SWEDEN IS
ONE OF THE MOST SECULAR
COUNTRIES IN THE WORLD.
THEY LOST THEIR MORAL
GROUNDING.
BECAUSE TH THE ELITIST,
ESPECIALLY, NEED SOME
MORALITY.
INSTEAD, THEIR VALUES ARE
ANTI-RACISM.
THEY CREATED THIS
ALTERNATIVE REALITY FOR
THEMSELVES.
BUT IN 1930s, AND
THEY'RE THE GUYS FIGHTING
HITLER.
Reporter: BUT MORE
AND MORE SWEDES SEEM TO
FINALLY HAVE HAD ENOUGH
BECAUSE THE
ANTI-IMMIGRATION SWEDEN
DEMOCRATS ARE THE MOST
POPULAR PARTY IN THE
COUNTRY.
THE LOCAL
MUNICIPALITIES,
GOVERNMENTS AND
AUTHORITIES THAT RUN A
COUNTRY, THEY'RE ALL
SAYING, IT IS NOT WORKING.
WE'RE STANDING BEFORE A
COLLAPSE OF THE SYSTEM
ALMOST IN SWEDEN.
PEOPLE LIVING IN THE
MULTI-CULTURAL CHAOS THEY
CREATED, THEY SEE THIS.
Reporter: RIGHT-WING
NATIONAL PARTIES ARE
STRENGTHENING IN MOST
EUROPEAN NATIONS BECAUSE
IN MANY CASES, THE
ESTABLISHMENT SEEMS
UNWILLING OR UNABLE TO
STOP THE MIGRANT INFLUX.
A NEW POLL SHOWS
IMMIGRATION IS THE NUMBER
ONE ISSUE IN EUROPE.
WHY WOULD YOU ALLOW
UNLIMITED IMMIGRATION?
IT IS MADNESS.
BUT IT IS A POLITICAL
THING, YOU SEE.
AS LONG AS YOU'VE GOT
THESE OPEN BORDERS, THE
LEFT-WING POLITICAL LEAGUE
CAN SAY WE'RE GOOD PEOPLE
BECAUSE WE'RE NOT RACIST
LIKE THE NASTY PEOPLE WHO
WANT TO CONTROL
IMMIGRATION.
Reporter: ALMOST A
MILLION MIGRANTS HAVE
ARRIVE IN GERMANY THIS
YEAR ALONE.
GERMAN SUPPORT FOR OPEN
BORDERS IS FALLING.
THE FEAR OF OPEN BORDERS
IN EUROPE SEEMS TO TO BE THE
SAME FEAR THAT HELPING
DONALD TRUMP'S CAMPAIGN
FOR PRESIDENT.
DESPERATE PEOPLE ARE IN
NEED OF BEING HELPED.
BUT MANY ARE ASKING, WHAT
WOULD HAPPEN TO EUROPE IF
THE REFUGEE SURGE DOESN'T
STOP?
DALE HURD, CBN NEWS,
REPORTING FROM EUROPE.
Chris: COMING UP, A
DEEPER LOOK INTO ISIS WITH
ISLAMIC EXPERT ROBERT
SPENCER.
WHAT THEIR GOALS ARE AND
WHY THEY POSE A THREAT TO
THE REST OF THE WORLD.
Chris: WELCOME BACK
TO "JERUSALEM DATELINE."
PRESIDENT OBAMA ONCE
CALLED THEM THE J.V. TEAM,
BUT ISIS IS A DEADLY
TERRORIST GROUP.
THEY'RE COMMITTING
UNSPEAKABLE MURDERS AND AT
STROS CENTURIESATROCITIES.
BUT MANY DON'T KNOW MUCH
ABOUT THIS RADICAL GROUP.
TAKE A LOOK.
Reporter: ISIS, OR
THE ISLAMIC STATE, BURST
ON THE INTERNATIONAL SCENE
IN 2014, WHEN IT TOOK OVER
HUGE SWATHS OF IRAQ AND
SYRIA.
TODAY ISIS CONTROLS THE
LAND AREA THE SIZE OF
GREAT BRITAIN AND IS THE
WEALTHIEST JIHADIST
ORGANIZATION IN THE WORLD.
AS IT EXPANDS, ISLAMIC
STATE FORCES BRING CHAOS
AND SAVAGERY WHEREVER THEY
GO.
DESPITE WHAT WE KNOW ABOUT
ISIS, THERE IS MUCH THAT
REMAINS MYSTERIOUS, UNTIL
NOW.
IN HIS NEW BOOK, "THE
COMPLETE INFIDEL'S GUIDE
TO ISIS," ROBERT SPENCER
REVEALS EVERYTHING YOU
NEED TO TNEED TO KNOW ABOUT ISIS.
Chris: FIRST OF ALL,
ROBERT, THANK YOU FOR
BEING HERE.
HAPPY TO BE HERE.
Chris: FIRST OF ALL,
ROBERT, WHY DID YOU WRITE
THE BOOK?
I THINK THERE IS SO
MUCH MISINFORMATION AND
DISMOTIVATION ABOUT ISIS
AT THE HIGHEST LEVEL, IT
IS HAM-STRINGING OUR
ABILITY TO DEAL WITH IT.
IT IS A UNIVERSAL THING.
IT IS NOT JUST THE
PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED
STATES THAT SAYS ISIS HAS
NOTHING TO DO WITH ISLAM,
BUT THE ENTIRE GOVERNMENT,
THE OPPOSITION PARTY, THE
PRIME MINISTER OF GREAT
BRITAIN.
VIRTUALLY EVERY AUTHORITY
IN THE WESTERN WORLD IS IN
DENIAL.
Chris: WHAT IS THE
MOTIVATING IDEOLOGY OF
ISIS AND WHAT ARE THEIR
GOALS?
ISIS IS QUINTESSENTIAL
QUINTESSENTIALLY ISLAMIC.
THEY ARE GUIDED BY THE
EXAMPLE OF MUHAMMAD AND
THE TEACHINGS OF THE
QURAN, WHICH MANDATES WAR.
THE ONLY EARTHLY AUTHORITY
IS TO THE CALIPH.
THIS HAS PROVEN ALREADY TO
BE AN EXTRAORDINARILY
POWERFUL CLAIM.
Chris: IT SEEMS
ALMOST LIKE A SIREN SONG
THAT ISIS IS DRAWING THEM
TO.
WHAT'S THE ATTRACTION?
THEY SAY THIS IS THE
PERFECT ISLAMIC STATE.
THIS IS THE ISLAMIC STATE
WHERE ISLAMIC LAW IS FULLY
IN EFFECT.
INOWHERE ELSE IN THE WORLD
CAN THIS BE SAID.
THIS IS THE ISLAMIC STATE
WHERE THERE IS THE CALIPH.
NOWHERE ELSE IN THE WORLD
CAN THAT BE SAID.
Chris: YOU WRITE
ABOUT IT IN THE BOOK THAT
ISIS HAS ACTUALLY
PENETRATED THE UNITED
STATES.
THERE WAS A STORY ABOUT
THIS COUPLE FROM
MISSISSIPPI STATE
UNIVERSITY THAT WERE
ARRESTED.
BUT ON THEIR WAY TO TRY TO
GET TO ISIS -- HOW HAS
ISIS PENETRATED THE UNITED
STATES?
THEY DO IT BY MEANS OF
SOCIAL MEDIA.
THEY'RE VERY SOPHISTICATED
IN THEIR USE OF THE
INTERNET, OF TWITTER, OF
Facebook.
BUT THE MAIN THING IS NOT
SO MUCH THE MEANS BY WHICH
THE MESSAGE IS CONVEYED,
BUT THE MESSAGE ITSELF.
AND THAT MESSAGE IS
POWERFUL AMONG AMERICAN
MUSLIMS BECAUSE IT IS SO
DEEPLY ROOTED WITHIN
ISLAMIC TRADITION.
Chris: WHAT IS THEIR
VIEW OF THE END TIMES?
DO THEY FEEL LIKE WE'RE ON
THE PRES BU PRESIBUS OF THE LAST
TIMES?
YES.
THEY EXPECT TO BE FIGHTING
THE TITANIC LAST BATTLE
BETWEEN MUSLIMS AND
NON-MUSLIMS.
THAT'S PROPHESIED,
ACCORDING TO ISLAMIC
TRADITION, BY MUHAMMAD
HIMSELF.
HE SAID THAT THE ROMANS,
BY WHICH HE APPEARED TO
HAVE MEANT THE CHRISTIANS
AND ALL OF THE
NON-MUSLIMS, WOULD GATHER
AT DOBIK, WHICH THE
ISLAMIC STATE ACTUALLY
DOES CONTROL AT THIS TIME.
Chris: WHAT WE'RE
SEEING IN THE NEWS IN THIS
PART OF THE WORLD IS A
HUGE WAVE OF MIGRANTS
THROWING INTO EUROPE FROM
PLACES LIKE AFGHANISTAN
AND SYRIA AND IRAQ.
DO YOU SEE THIS AS A
POTENTIAL DANGER TO
WESTERN EUROPEAN
COUNTRIES?
THERE IS NO DOUBT IT IS
AN ABSOLUTE AND IMMEDIATE
DANGER.
YESTERDAY THERE WERE
DISCOVERED SEVERAL ISLAMIC
STATE JIHADIS AMONG THOSE
SO-CALLED MIGRANTS.
THE ISLAMIC STATE HAS
ALREADY THREATENED, WE'RE
GOING TO FLOOD EUROPE WITH
REFUGEES.
THEY MEAN REFUGEES WHO
WILL INCLUDE AMONG THEM
JIHAD WARRIORS.
Chris: AND WHAT KIND
OF DANGER DOES ISIS
REPRESENT TO CHRISTIANITY
IN THIS PART OF THE WORLD?
THE ISLAMIC STATE HAS
VOWED TO REIMPOSE THE
SYSTEM OF DINITUD, THAT
MANDATES SECOND-CLASS
STATUS FOR CHRISTIANS AND
OTHER NON-MUSLIM.
THEY VE A PAY A SPECIAL
TAX, AND DENYING THEM
BASIC RIGHTS UNDER THE
RULE OF THE MUSLIMS.
THE ENTIRE AREA OF MOSUL,
WHICH HAD BEEN A CHRISTIAN
AREA SINCE THE TIME OF
JESUS, IS NOW COMPLETELY
CLEAR OF CHRISTIANS.
THE ARCHBISHOP OF MOSUL
SAID, I HAVE LOST MY
ENTIRE DIACIS TO ISLAM.
Chris: WE HAD THE
OPPORTUNITY AND PRIVILEGE
TO INTERVIEW SOME OF THE
PEOPLE THAT FLED ISIS.
ROBERT, IF YOU HAD TO TAKE
A 30,000-FOOT VIEW OF THE
MIDDLE EAST, SO MUCH
FIGHTING GOING ON, WHAT
WOULD YOU SAY -- WHAT DO
PEOPLE NEED TO KNOW ABOUT
WHAT IS HAPPENING IN THE
MIDDLE EAST RIGHT NOW?
THEY NEED TO KNOW THAT
THE GROUPS LIKE ISIS ARE
NOT SOME TWISTED, HIJACKED
VERSION OF ISLAM THAT IS A
TERROR GROUP THAT IS AB
ABHORED OR REJECTED BY
MUSLIMS.
THEY ARE WINNING BROAD
SUPPORT AMONG PEACEFUL
MUSLIMS BY VIRTUAL OF
JUSTIFYING AND EXPLAINING
THEIR ACTIONS WITH
REFERENCE TO ISLAMIC TEXTS
AND TEACHINGS.
THE QURAN AND THE SUNA,
THE EXAMPLE OF MUHAMMAD.
IT IS AN APPEAL FAR
BROADER THAN JUST THE
ISLAMIC STATE ITSELF.
WE HAVE TO ADDRESS THAT IF
WE'RE EVER GOING TO COME
UP WITH ANY EFFECTIVE
MEANS TO COUNTER IT.
BUT WE ALSO HAVE TO
REMEMBER THIS IS A SPIRIT
SPIRITUAL BATTLE.
THEY SAY THEY WILL WIN
BECAUSE THEY LOVE DEATH
MORE THAN YOU LOVE LIFE.
BUT WE KNOW THE AUTHOR
WILL NOT ALLOW DEATH TO
CONQUER LIFE.
BUT WE HAVE TO UERSTAND
THIS IS, AS THEY SAY,HE
STRUGGLE BETWEEN GOOD AND
EVIL IN A VERY STARK
SENSE.
Chris: HOW WOULD YOU
DESCRIBE OR CHARACTERIZE
OR ASSESS THE BATTLE BY
THE OBAMA ADMINISTRATION
AND BY OTHER WESTERN
POWERS AGAINST ISIS?
THEY'RE IN COMPLETE
DENIAL.
OBAMA INSISTS THAT THE
ISLAMIC STATE IS NOT
ISLAMIC.
IT HAMSTRINGS US.
YOU CANNOT DEFEAT AN ENEMY
THAT YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND.
AND THE OBAMA
ADMINISTRATION REFUSES TO
UNDERSTAND THIS ENEMY.
Chris: ROBERT,
CONGRATULATIONS ON THE
BOOK.
THANKS FOR BEING HERE WITH
US ON "JERUSALEM
DATELINE," AND ALL OF THE
BEST.
A PLEASURE.
THANK YOU.
Chris: UP NEXT, A
LOOK BACK AT SOME OF THE
STORIES FROM LAST SEASON,
AND A LOOK AHEAD TO THE
NEXT.
Chris: WELCOME BACK
TO "JERUSALEM DATELINE."
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OPPOSEDO THE CALENDAR
YEAR, BEGINS IN THE FALL.
WE'VE JUST FINISHED SEASON
FOUR OF "JERUSALEM
DATELINE," AND WE'RE NOW
BEGINNING SEASON FIVE.
THIS PAST YEAR WE'VE BEEN
ABLE TO COVER THE MAJOR
EVENTS OF THE YEAR IN THE
MIDDLE EAST, INCLUDING THE
EXPANSION OF ISIS, THE
SIGNING OF THE IRANIAN
NUCLEAR DEAL, A PIVOTAL
ELECTION HERE IN ISRAEL,
AND GROUNDBREAKING
ARCHEOLOGICAL DISCOVERIES
AND PROPHECY FULFILLED AS
THE JUDICIAL PEOPLE RETURN
TO ISRAEL.
WE LOOK AHEAD THIS YEAR TO
COVER MORE OF THOSE MAJOR
EVENTS TAKING PLACE HERE
IN THE MIDDLE EAST THAT
SHAPE HISTORY AND AFFECT
YOUR LIFE.
WE APPRECIATE YOU JOINING
US ALONG THE JOURNEY.
REMEMBER, YOU CAN FOLLOW
US ON Facebook AND
TWITTER THROUGHOUT THE
WEEK.
AND NOW ALONG WITH
PERISCOPE.
I'M CHRIS MITCHELL, WE'LL
SEE YOU NEXT TIME ON
"JERUSALEM DATELINE."