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> THE FOLLOWING PROGRAM IS
SPONSORED BY CBN.
> COMING UP, HOW CHINA IS
SPYING ON YOU.
THERE ARE A LOT OF REASONS
TO BE CONCERNED, NOT ABOUT THE
VIDEOS, BUT THE DATA GOING BACK
TO CHINA.
THROUGH THE MOST POPULAR
SOCIAL MEDIA.
THEY HAVE PEOPLE INSIDE
TIKTOK AND EVERYTHING IS SEEN
IN CHINA.
THEY ARE NOT JUST COLLECTING
DATA BUT CHANGING THE MINDS OF
AMERICANS.
THROUGH CONTROLLING THE
ALGORITHM, CHINA CAN INFLUENCE
AMERICAN PUBLIC OPINION.
> THIS BEST-SELLING OFFER
TELLS US WHY THE BEST IS YET TO
COME ON TODAY'S 700 CLUB.
> WELCOME TO THE 700 CLUB.
MORE THAN TWO THIRDS OF THE
NATION IS BAKING IN A
BLISTERING HEAT WAVE.
FROM COAST TO COAST, THERE ARE
WARNINGS OF DEADLY HIGH
TEMPERATURES EXPECTED TO LAST
THROUGHOUT THE WEEKEND.
THE EXTREME HEAT IS ALSO
INTENSIFYING WILDFIRES AND
DROUGHT IN THE WEST, AS WELL AS
FUELING SOARING ENERGY COSTS
ALL ACROSS AMERICA.
HEATHER SELLS REPORTS.
Reporter: MORE THAN 100
MILLION PEOPLE IN THE U.S. ARE
FACING HEAT ADVISORIES AND
EXCESSIVE HEAT WARNINGS.
THEY ARE IN 29 STATES, RANGING
FROM CALIFORNIA TO NEW
HAMPSHIRE, AND PUBLIC SAFETY
OFFICIALS ARE WARNING THESE
TEMPERATURES ARE DANGEROUS.
YOU MAY HAVE SEEN THIS VIRAL
VIDEO OF A UPS DRIVER IN
ARIZONA, COLLAPSING AS HE RANG
A DOORBELL.
ANOTHER DRIVER TOLD ABC 15 --
NO AMOUNT OF TRAINING
PREPARES YOUR BODY FOR THIS.
Reporter: HE DESCRIBED HOW
THE HEAT IS AFFECTING HIM.
THERE HAVE BEEN TIMES WHERE
I HAVE WOKEN UP IN THE MIDDLE
OF THE NIGHT, CRAPPING UP, MY
LEGS CRAMPING, MY HANDS
CRAMPING.
Reporter: THEY WARN THE HEAT
IS THE TOP WEATHER KILLER AND
CAN LEAD TO DEHYDRATION AND
HEAT STROKE.
IT CAN ALSO LEAD TO OTHER
DANGERS.
IN GEORGIA, A LIGHTNING STRIKE
KILLED ONE SOLDIER AT FORT
GORDON AND INJURED NINE OTHERS.
IN TEXAS, IT IS FUELING
WILDFIRES.
IT IS VERY DIFFICULT.
THE HEAT IS PLAYING A ROLE.
THIS HISTORIC HEAT WAVE IS
NOW MOVING EAST FROM THE PLAINS
TO CITIES LIKE PHILLY, BOSTON,
AND NEW YORK.
THEY TOLD CUSTOMERS TO CONSERVE
TO AVOID OUTAGES.
DO NOT RUN YOUR AIR
CONDITIONER WHEN YOU'RE NOT AT
HOME.
DO NOT COOL ROOMS YOU ARE NOT
IN.
CLOSE THE DOOR.
IF YOU ARE RUNNING HEAVY
APPLIANCES LIKE A DISHWASHER,
USE THAT LATE AT NIGHT OR EARLY
IN THE MORNING, WHEN THE SYSTEM
IS NOT IN HIGH DEMAND.
Reporter: CLIMATE CHANGE
ACTIVISTS SAYS -- OTHER EXPERTS
NOTE THAT URBAN SPRAWL IS ALSO
ACCELERATING THE TREND.
WE ARE PUTTING MORE
PIGMENTS, BLACK PIGMENT, AND --
TEMPERATURES ARE RAMPING UP
IN EUROPE, WHERE PEOPLE IN
CITIES LIKE LONDON AND PARIS
ARE FLOCKING TO FOUNTAINS AND
WATER SPRINKLERS TO ESCAPE THE
UNUSUAL HOT AND DRY CONDITIONS.
MORE THAN 1000 DEATHS ARE
BLAMED ON THE WEATHER AND IT IS
ALSO LEADING TO WIDE-RANGING
FOREST FIRES.
FOR AMERICANS, IT IS A HEAT
ALERT WEEKEND, TIME TO LIMIT
OUTDOOR ACTIVITIES AND KEEP
COOL AND KEEP SAFE.
HEATHER SELLS, CBN NEWS.
IN THE HEIGHT OF THIS HEAT
WAVE, THE PRESIDENT IS
ANNOUNCING EXECUTIVE ACTIONS TO
FIGHT CLIMATE CHANGE.
JOHN JESSUP HAS MORE ON THAT
FROM OUR CBN NEWS BUREAU IN
WASHINGTON.
Reporter: SPEAKING IN
MASSACHUSETTS, HE SAID CLIMATE
CHANGE IS A, QUOTE, CLEAR AND
PRESENT DANGER TO THE NATION.
WE HAVE TO ACT.
IT CAUSES SHORTAGES FOR
CONSUMERS AND BUSINESSES AND
CLIMATE CHANGE IS LITERALLY AN
EXISTENTIAL THREAT FOR OUR
NATION AND TO THE WORLD.
THE MASSES TODAY IS THIS.
SINCE CONGRESS IS NOT ACTING AS
IT SHOULD, THESE GUYS HERE ARE
AND WE'RE NOT GETTING ANY
REPUBLICAN VOTES -- THIS IS AN
EMERGENCY.
I WILL, I WILL LOOK AT IT THAT
WAY.
THE PRESIDENT VOWED TO USE
EXECUTIVE ACTION TO FIGHT
CLIMATE CHANGE, INCLUDING $2.3
BILLION IN FEMA FUNDING TO
BUILD INFRASTRUCTURE TO HELP IN
EXTREME WEATHER SITUATIONS.
HE ALSO PROMISED MORE ROBUST
ACTION IN THE FUTURE BUT
CLIMATE CHANGE IS LOW ON
AMERICANS' LIST OF CONCERNS FOR
ONLY 1% SAID IT WAS THEIR
BIGGEST CONCERN IN A POLL ON
CAPITOL HILL , AN EMOTIONAL
PLEA FOR MORE AID TO UKRAINE.
WE ARE IN WASHINGTON MEETING
WITH LAWMAKERS.
THEY ARE SPEAKING ON THE HOUSE
FLOOR AND THEY ASKED FOR MORE
HELP IN HER COUNTRY'S FIGHT
AGAINST THE RUSSIAN INVASION.
WE ARE ASKING FOR WEAPONS,
WEAPONS THAT WILL BE -- TO
PROTECT ONE'S HOME AND THE
RIGHT TO WAKE UP ALIVE IN THAT
HOME.
I AM ASKING FOR AIR DEFENSE
SYSTEMS, IN ORDER FOR OUR KIDS
NOT TO BE KILLED AND NOT TO
KILL CHILDREN IN THEIR
STROLLERS.
SHE HIGHLIGHTED THE FLIGHT
OF INNOCENT CIVILIANS,
SPECIFICALLY CHILDREN, WHOM SHE
SAYS HAS BEEN KILLED BY RUSSIAN
MISSILE STRIKES.
THE WHITE HOUSE WARNS RUSSIA IS
PLANNING TO ANNEX MORE
UKRAINIAN TERRITORIES.
THEY SEIZED THE GRAMMARIAN
PENINSULA AND THEY SAID IT IS
FOLLOWING THE SAME PLAYBOOK TO
CLAYMORE TERRITORY AS PART OF
RUSSIA, MEANING THE SOUTHERN
AREAS OF KHERSON AND THE
EASTERN REGIONS OF DONETSK AND
LUHANSK.
THEY CONTROL MUCH OR ALL OF
THOSE TERRITORIES RIGHT NOW.
> THEY HOLD THEIR FINAL
SUMMER HEARING TONIGHT.
THE HEARING WILL FOCUS ON
FORMER PRESIDENT TRUMP'S
ACTIVITIES AFTER THE CAPITAL
WAS BREACHED.
THEY SAY MR. TRUMP DID NOT TAKE
ACTION TO STOP THE RIOT FOR
MORE THAN THREE YEARS.
IT IS EXPECTED TO SHOW
TESTIMONY FROM PAT CIPOLLONE
AND OTHER AIDES ABOUT WHAT
HAPPENED DURING THAT TIME, AS
WELL AS REVIEW SOME SECRET
SERVICE TEXT MESSAGES FROM
JANUARY 5th AND JANUARY 6th
THAT THE COMMITTEE SUBPOENAED.
IT IS ALSO LOOKING AT REPORTS
THAT SOME HAVE BEEN DELETED.
> LAWMAKERS HOPE TO EVENT --
PREVENT JANUARY 6th FROM
HAPPENING AGAIN.
SUSAN COLLINS AND JOE MANCHIN
ARE SPEARHEADING IT.
IT INFORMS -- TO CLARIFY THE
ROLE OF THE VICE PRESIDENT IN
CONGRESS WHEN IT COMES TO A
CONTESTED PRESIDENTIAL
ELECTION.
CAITLIN BURKE EXPLAINS.
Reporter: IN SHORT, THE
ELECTORAL COUNT ACT LAYS OUT
HOW CONGRESS COUNT ELECTORAL
COLLEGE VOTES FROM EACH STATE,
ESPECIALLY WHEN THERE IS A
CHALLENGE.
AFTER A DISPUTED ELECTION IN
1876, THE ELECTORAL COUNT ACT
ESTABLISHED A JURIED SESSION OF
CONGRESS TO OVERSEE THE
COUNTING OF ELECTORAL VOTES.
DURING THAT PROCESS, ANY
WRITTEN EXCEPTION FROM ONE
HOUSE MEMBER AND ONE SENATOR
SENDS LAWMAKERS BACK TO THEIR
RESPECTIVE HOUSES TO CONSIDER
THE OBJECTION.
THE POWER TO SUSTAIN OR
OVERRULE PLACED FULLY WITH
CONGRESS.
THAT SCENARIO PLAYED OUT AFTER
THE 2020 PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION
AND NOW THE PUBLIC HEARINGS BY
THE JANUARY 6th COMMITTEE
THROWS IT INTO THE SPOTLIGHT.
THOSE ARE ALLEGING THAT
PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP
KNOWINGLY TRIED TO EXPLOIT
LOOPHOLES TO STAY IN POWER.
WHAT EXACTLY DID PRESIDENT
DONALD TRUMP KNOW, WHAT EXACTLY
DID HE KNOW THAT IT WOULD BE
ILLEGAL FOR MIKE PENCE TO
REFUSE TO COUNT ELECTORAL
VOTES?
HERE IS ONE SAMPLE OF
TESTIMONY GIVEN BY ONE OF THE
WITNESSES BEFORE US TODAY, THE
VICE PRESIDENT'S GENERAL
COUNSEL.
DID HE EVER ADMIT IN TERMS
-- THAT HIS PROPOSAL WOULD
VIOLATE THE ELECTORAL COUNT
ACT?
I BELIEVE THEY DID.
THEY INSIST MIKE PENCE HAD
THE POWER TO THROW OUT CERTAIN
ELECTION RESULTS OR SEND IT
BACK TO THE STATES.
THEY WERE HOPING THAT THERE
WOULD BE OBJECTIONS MADE UNDER
THE ACT BY A MEMBER OF THE
HOUSE OR THE SENATE TO THE
ELECTORAL VOTES COMING FROM
PARTICULAR STATES LIKE GEORGIA
AND ARIZONA AND THEN THERE
WOULD BE A DEBATE OVER WHETHER
IT SHOULD BE SUSTAINED OR
OVERRULED.
THEY WERE ALL OVERRULED, SO THE
VICE PRESIDENT DID NOT HAVE THE
POWER TO THEN SOMEHOW CHANGE
WHAT THE SENATE HAD DECIDED,
WHAT THE HOUSE HAD DECIDED.
I THINK THERE WERE FOLKS HOPING
HE WOULD DO THAT, BUT HE DID
NOT HAVE THE POWER, NEITHER
UNDER THE STATUTE, NOR UNDER
THE CONSTITUTION.
AN ELECTION INTEGRITY EXPERT
SAYS THE VICE PRESIDENT'S ROLE
IN CERTIFYING ELECTION RESULTS
IS PURELY MINISTERIAL, WHICH
MEANS HE DOES NOT HAVE ANY
POWER AT ALL, A POINT THAT MIKE
PENCE HAS ADDRESSED.
I HAD NO RIGHT TO OVERTURN
THE ELECTION.
THE PRESIDENCY BELONGS TO THE
AMERICAN PEOPLE AND THE
AMERICAN PEOPLE ALONE.
FRANKLY, THERE IS NO IDEA MORE
UN-AMERICAN THAN THE NOTION
THAT ANY ONE PERSON COULD
CHOOSE THE AMERICAN PRESIDENT.
Reporter: WHILE HE SEES 2020
IS AN EXAMPLE OF ELECTORAL
COUNT ACT WORKING, BIPARTISAN
GROUP OF LAWMAKERS FEEL THE LAW
NEEDS TO BE CLARIFIED.
THEY CLARIFY THE VICE PRESIDENT
DOES NOT HAVE THE POWER TO
REJECT ELECTORS AND MAKES IT
MORE DIFFICULT FOR CONGRESS TO
OBJECT TO AN ELECTION BY
REQUIRING THE SUPPORT OF ONE
FIFTH OF THE HOUSE AND SENATE.
IT ALSO SAYS ESTATE CAN APPOINT
ONLY ONE SET OF ELECTORS, WHICH
IS SUBMITTED TO CONGRESS BY ONE
DESIGNATED OFFICIAL.
CANDIDATES WITH CONCERNS WOULD
TAKE THEIR CASE TO A THREE-
JUDGE PANEL AND AT AN EXPEDITED
PATH TO THE SUPREME COURT.
ANOTHER BILL PROTECTS POLL
WORKERS BY DOUBLING FINDS. IT
ALSO CLARIFIES HOW THE POST
OFFICE SHOULD HANDLE MAIL-IN
BALLOTS.
THE HOPE IS TO HAVE THE BILL
PASS CONGRESS LONG BEFORE THE
NOVEMBER MIDTERM ELECTIONS.
CAITLIN BURKE, CBN NEWS,
WASHINGTON.
> GORDON, BACK TO YOU.
ONCE THE STATES CERTIFY
THEIR ELECTORS, IT SHOULD BE
OVER.
THAT CERTIFICATION PROCESS
SHOULD TAKE INTO ACCOUNT ANY
OBJECTIONS TO IT AND TO GIVE
OPPORTUNITY WITHIN STATE AND
FEDERAL COURTS TO OBJECT IF
THERE ARE ANY PARTICULAR
PROBLEMS IN ANY PARTICULAR
STATE.
THIS BILL WILL CLARIFY THAT
WHOLE PROCESS AND TAKE IT TO
THE HOUSE AND SENATE, WHERE IF
ONE MEMBER OF CONGRESS AND ONE
MEMBER OF THE SENATE OBJECT AND
BOTH THE HOUSE AND THE SENATE
GO BACK AND CONSIDER THAT
OBJECTION, AND IT CLARIFIES THE
ROLE OF THE VICE PRESIDENT.
THEY ARE THERE JUST TO COUNT
THE VOTES.
ASHLEY?
> SHE IS A FORMER STAY-AT-
HOME MOTHER OF FOUR.
TODAY, SHE IS THE LEADING VOICE
IN WOMEN'S FICTION.
DEBBIE MacOMBER HAS MORE THAN
200 MILLION BOOKS IN PRINT
WORLDWIDE AND YOU WILL GET A
SNEAK PEEK AT HER LATEST NOVEL
WHEN SHE JOINS US, COMING UP.
> IT IS THE MOST POPULAR
SOCIAL MEDIA APP.
IT IS ALSO BEIJING'S BACK DOOR
TO THE PERSONAL DATA OF
MILLIONS OF USERS.
THE THREAT TIKTOK POSES TO THE
U.S. SECURITY RIGHT AFTER THIS.
> TIKTOK IS THE MOST POPULAR
SOCIAL MEDIA APP ON THE MARKET.
IT COULD ALSO BE ONE OF THE
MOST DANGEROUS TWO-HOUR
NATIONAL SECURITY.
LAWMAKERS CLAIM THAT BEIJING IS
USING TIKTOK TO GATHER DATA ON
MILLIONS OF AMERICANS AND
EXPERTS ARE SOUNDING THE ALARM
ABOUT THE LONG ARM OF THE
CHINESE COMMUNIST PARTY.
CAITLIN BURKE HAS THAT STORY.
Reporter: TIKTOK IS THE MOST
DOWNLOADED APP IN THE WORLD.
KNOWN FOR SHORT, VIRAL VIDEOS,
IT HAS TENS OF MILLIONS OF
USERS IN THE U.S. IN ORDER TO
OPERATE SUCCESSFULLY, TIKTOK
COLLECTS A LOT OF DATA.
IT TRACKS ACCOUNT INFORMATION,
SEARCH HISTORY, ANY CONTENT
CREATED THROUGH THE PLATFORM,
ALONG WITH USERS' LOCATIONS AND
BEHAVIORAL INFORMATION.
COMPANIES LIKE FACEBOOK AND
GOOGLE COLLECT SIMILAR DATA,
BUT THERE IS ONE MAJOR
DIFFERENCE -- TIKTOK IS BASED
IN CHINA.
CHINA HAS A NATIONAL
SECURITY LAW THAT COMPELS EVERY
ENTITY WITHIN ITS JURISDICTION
TO AID ITS ESPIONAGE AND WHAT
THEY VIEW AS THEIR NATIONAL
SECURITY EFFORTS.
THIS MEANS CHINESE COMPANIES
ARE REQUIRED TO MAKE ALL DATA
THEY COLLECT AVAILABLE TO THE
CHINESE COMMUNIST PARTY, NO
EXCEPTIONS.
BRANDON CARR, COMMISSIONER AT
THE FEDERAL COMMUNICATIONS
COMMISSION, SAYS THAT INCLUDES
ALL THE PERSONAL INFORMATION
TIKTOK HAS BEEN GATHERING ON
MILLIONS OF AMERICANS.
WE HAVE TAKEN A LOOK AT
OTHER ENTITIES HOLD INTO THE
CCP, WHETHER IT IS HUAWEI, ZTE,
CHINA MOBILE , AND WE SEE JUST
A HISTORY OF NEFARIOUS CONDUCT,
FRONT BUSINESS INDUSTRIAL
ESPIONAGE TO BLACKMAIL.
THERE IS A LOT OF REASONS TO BE
CONCERNED, NOT ABOUT THE
VIDEOS, BUT THE UNDERLYING DATA
GOING BACK EN MASSE TO CHINA.
ONE INVESTIGATION WAS FIRST
LAUNCHED BY THE TREASURY
DEPARTMENT BACK IN 2019.
IN 2020, PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP
THREATENED TO BAN THE
ENTERTAINMENT PLATFORM IF IT
DID NOT SELL ITSELF TO A U.S.
COMPANY.
THROUGH IT ALL, TIKTOK
MAINTAINED IT HAD NEVER SHARED
DATA WITH THE CHINESE
GOVERNMENT AND INSISTED THE
INFORMATION OF AMERICAN USERS
WAS SECURE, BEING HANDLED ONLY
BY U.S.-BASED TEAMS.
THEN IN JUNE, BUZZFEED GOT
ACCESS TO A COLLECTION OF
LEAKED TAPES FROM INTERNAL
MEETINGS AT TIKTOK AND THEY
TOLD A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT
STORY.
THEY HAD PEOPLE INSIDE
TIKTOK SAYING, EVERYTHING IS
SEEN IN CHINA.
THEY HAD A MASTER ADMIN PERSON
WHO, AGAIN, WAS DISCLOSING THAT
THERE WAS ALMOST NO CHECKS ON
WHAT COULD GO BACK THERE.
TIKTOK WHAT ON DAMAGE
CONTROL AND RECENTLY ASSURED
CONCERNED REPUBLICAN LAWMAKERS
THAT NEW STEPS ARE NOW BEING
TAKEN TO FURTHER SECURE
AMERICAN DATA, INCLUDING THE
TRANSITION TO A U.S. BASED
CLOUD SERVICES PROVIDER THAT
THEY SAY WILL SOON BE USED TO
OPERATE THE APP, AS WELL AS
STORE AMERICAN USERS' PERSONAL
INFORMATION.
WHILE IT SOUNDS LIKE A STEP IN
THE RIGHT DIRECTION, TIKTOK'S
CEO ALSO ADMITTED SOME CHINA-
BASED ENGINEERS WILL STILL
REQUIRE ACCESS TO THE APP,
WHICH, BY LAW, GRANTS THAT SAME
ACCESS TO BEIJING.
WITH THAT DATA, CHINA IS
ABLE TO FEED IT INTO ITS
ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE SYSTEM
AND ALSO PERHAPS ABLE TO
COMPROMISE AMERICANS.
A KEY PART OF THE WORK THAT
WILL STILL NEED TO BE DONE IN
CHINA INVOLVES TIKTOK'S
ALGORITHM.
THIS EXPERT AND AUTHOR SAYS
THAT IS THE BIGGEST SECURITY
CONCERN OF ALL.
THROUGH CONTROL OF THE
ALGORITHM, CHINA IS ABLE TO
OPINION. AMERICAN PUBLIC
WE KNOW THAT IN 2020, THE
CHINESE MILITARY USED TIKTOK TO
INCITE VIOLENCE ON AMERICAN
STREETS.
TIKTOK GLORIFIES DRUG USAGE IN
AMERICA AND THERE ARE OTHER
THINGS THEY HAVE BEEN DOING TO
INTERFERE IN OUR POLITICAL
PROCESS.
IN A RARE SHOW OF BIPARTISAN
COOPERATION, LAWMAKERS ARE NOW
SAYING ENOUGH IS ENOUGH.
TO HAVE THIS KIND OF
INFORMATION, IN A SENSE, BE
VACUUMED OFF INTO THE COMMUNIST
PARTY OF CHINA, AND WHAT THEY
HAVE BEEN DOING WITH A LOT OF
TECHNOLOGY AND DATA
ACQUISITION, IT SCARES THE
DICKENS OUT OF ME.
IT IS TIME WE PUT A HALT TO
THIS RIGHT NOW.
THE SENATE INTELLIGENCE
COMMITTEE SENT A LETTER TO THE
FEDERAL TRADE COMMISSION,
REQUESTING AN INVESTIGATION BE
LAUNCHED INTO TIKTOK.
THE CHAIRMAN OF THE COMMITTEE,
SENATOR MARK WARNER, SAYS HE
BELIEVES THE EVIDENCE AGAINST
THE COMPANY IS OVERWHELMING.
SENATOR RUBIO AND I HAVE
SAID, RIGHT, FEDERAL TRADE
COMMISSION, THIS COMPLETELY
FALLS INTO THE AREA OF A
DECEPTIVE PRACTICE.
THAT IS WHAT WE HAVE A LOT TO
PREVENT.
YOU NEED TO DO THE
INVESTIGATION.
THE HEADS OF THE FBI AND THE
UNITED KINGDOM'S MI5 RECENTLY
ISSUED A VERY CLEAR WARNING
ABOUT THE THREAT POSED BY
CHINA.
THE MOST GAME CHANGING
CHALLENGE WE FACE COMES FROM
THE CHINESE COMMUNIST PARTY.
IT IS COVERTLY APPLYING
PRESSURE ACROSS THE GLOBE.
THIS MIGHT FEEL ABSTRACT, BUT
IT IS REAL AND IT IS PRESSING.
WE NEED TO TALK ABOUT IT.
WE NEED TO ACT.
SENATOR WARNER SAYS ONE STEP
LAWMAKERS CAN TAKE IMMEDIATELY
INVOLVES PASSING DATA PRIVACY
LEGISLATION.
HE POINTS OUT THIS MAY BE THE
LAST BIPARTISAN ISSUE THAT CAN
BE ADDRESSED AHEAD OF THE
MIDTERMS.
CAITLIN BURKE, CBN NEWS,
WASHINGTON.
I HOPE CONGRESS CAN ACT AND
ACT QUICKLY ON THIS.
IT IS ABOUT TIME.
EUROPE HAS A DATA PROTECTION
LAW ON THE BOOKS AND,
CURIOUSLY, CHINA HAS A LOT ON
THE BOOKS, TOO, THAT THEY
PROTECT THEIR CITIZENS FROM ANY
DATA BEING EXPORTED OUTSIDE OF
CHINA.
SO, WE SHOULD HAVE THE SAME
THING.
WE SHOULD HAVE THE SAME
PROTECTION AND SOME WOULD ARGUE
THAT PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP WAS
CORRECT, THAT TIKTOK SHOULD NOT
BE OWNED IN CHINA AND THAT THE
DATA SHOULD NOT BE AVAILABLE TO
THE CHINESE GOVERNMENT AND WHEN
YOU CONSIDER THAT THERE ARE --
RIOTING IN THE UNITED STATES,
ON INCITING TO VIOLENCE, THESE
THINGS SHOULD NOT -- WE SHOULD
NOT ALLOW THEM AT ALL.
YOU SHOULD NEVER ALLOW A
FOREIGN POWER TO HAVE THAT KIND
OF INFLUENCE ON YOUR CITIZENS.
I HOPE AND I PRAY CONGRESS ACTS
AND ACTS QUICKLY.
UP NEXT, BEATEN, CUT, AND
BURNED AND SOLD.
THIS MAN'S CHILDHOOD WAS A
NEVER ENDING NIGHTMARE AT THE
HANDS OF HIS PERVERTED
STEPFATHER.
FIND OUT WHAT HAPPENS WHEN HE
FINALLY BREAKS FREE AND SEE HOW
HE LEARNS TO FORGIVE THE
UNFORGIVABLE AFTER THIS.
> VERBAL, EMOTIONAL, VERBAL,
AND EVEN SEXUAL ABUSE.
THAT IS WHAT HE ENDURED FOR
SEVEN YEARS DURING HIS
CHILDHOOD.
IT WAS HIS DAILY REALITY.
ONCE HE FOUND THE COURAGE TO
TELL HIS MOTHER, THE ABUSE GOT
WORSE.
THEN, ONE DAY, WHEN HE WAS 14,
HE WAS STRONG ENOUGH TO FIGHT
BACK.
THIS MAN CAME INTO MY LIFE
AND HE BEGAN TO ABUSE ME.
HE BEGAN TO ABUSE ME IN EVERY
WAY, SHAPE, AND FORM.
VERBALLY, EMOTIONALLY,
PHYSICALLY AND SEXUALLY.
THAT WAS MY REALITY.
THAT IS ALL I KNEW, THIS
REJECTION, THIS PAIN, THIS
BROKENNESS, THIS SORROW.
MARK GREW UP WITHOUT HIS
BIOLOGICAL FATHER.
HIS MOTHER DIVORCED HER FIRST
HUSBAND AFTER HE CHEATED ON HER
AND MARK WAS BORN OUT OF AN
AFFAIR WITH A MARRIED MAN WHO
QUICKLY ABANDONED THEM.
WITH A LOT OF NEGLECT IN HER
OWN LIFE, REJECTION AND PAIN,
INSECURITIES AND FEARS.
AS HER PAIN BECOME LOUDER, HER
HERTZ BECAME LOUDER AND IT
SPILLED OUT.
WHEN HE WAS SEVEN, HIS
MOTHER MARRIED A MAN 20 YEARS
YOUNGER THAN HER.
AFTER, THE ABUSE BEGAN.
I NEVER FORGET IT.
I STILL REMEMBER THE SMELL OF
MY ABUSER'S BREATH.
I STILL REMEMBER THE THRESHOLD
THAT CRACKLED AND I REMEMBER
THE ATTACK OF MY BODY.
I WAS VERY CONFUSED BECAUSE I
WAS ATTACKED IN A SEXUAL WAY,
NOT KNOWING ANYTHING ABOUT
THOSE KINDS OF TOUCHES, GOOD
TOUCHES, BAD TOUCHES.
I REMEMBER IT VERY CLEARLY.
FIVE USER TOLD ME TO KEEP IT A
SECRET OR THEY WOULD TAKE ME
AWAY.
THE USE OCCURRED ALMOST
DAILY AND NOT JUST SEXUALLY.
HE WAS BEATEN, CUT, BURNED, AND
SOLD TO OTHER MEN FOR THEIR
PERVERSE PLEASURES.
I FELT LIKE I WAS BAD.
I FELT LIKE I DID SOMETHING
WRONG.
THIS WAS A NORMALITY.
I WOULD COME HOME AND BE ABUSED
AND FINES ONE AND SOLD TO OTHER
AND THIS WAS JUST MY REALITY .
IT WAS ALL I KNEW.
I DID NOT KNOW A DIFFERENT WAY.
I KNEW ABUSE AND I BECAME EMPTY.
THAT HE GET THE ABUSE FROM
HIS MOTHER BUT WHEN HE TOLD HER
WHAT WAS HAPPENING, HIS AGONY
FELL ON DEAF EARS.
SHE DID NOT KNOW HOW TO
HANDLE THAT.
SHE CALLED MY ABUSER IN THE
ROOM AND SHE CONFRONTED MY
ABUSER WITH MY ABUSE, AND HE
PROMISED NEVER TO DO IT AGAIN.
THE NEXT MORNING, I GOT THE
BIGGEST BEATING OF MY LIFE, SO
I FELT EMPTY, ALONE, GUILTY,
AFRAID.
THE ABUSE CONTINUED FOR
SEVEN YEARS UNTIL MARK TURNED
14 AND HE FOUND THE COURAGE TO
FIGHT OFF HIS ABUSER.
HE THEN RAN TO HIS UNCLE, WHO
TOOK HIM IN AFTER HE LEARNED
WHAT WAS HAPPENING.
HE WAS SOMEBODY WHO STOOD UP
FOR ME AND HE PROTECTED ME FROM
THAT DAY FORTH.
AFTER THE DAY I TOLD MY UNCLE,
THE ABUSE NEVER CAME AGAIN.
WHEN HE TURNED 16, HE WAS
INVITED TO CHURCH BY A FRIEND.
THERE, HE FOUND COMFORT AND
COMMUNITY THE LIKES OF WHICH HE
NEVER KNEW.
HE WAS ALSO INTRODUCED TO JESUS
CHRIST.
I SAID THAT PRAYER, FATHER,
COME INTO MY LIFE.
FORGIVE ME OF MY SINS AND
BECOME MY LORD AND SAVIOR . AT
THAT MOMENT, I KNEW JESUS
CHRIST WAS WITH ME AND I BECAME
A FIXTURE AT THAT CHURCH.
I MET SOME GREAT PEOPLE.
I MET PEOPLE WHO LOVED ME AND
SUPPORTED ME.
THE CHURCH TRULY BECAME A
SANCTUARY.
HE FELT A CALLING TO GO TO
BIBLE COLLEGE AND BECOME A
PASTOR.
HE GRADUATED AND GOT MARRIED,
STARTING A FAMILY.
HE WOULD BECOME A PASTOR OF HIS
OWN CHURCH, BUT THE TORTURES OF
HIS YOUTH WERE AN EVER PRESENT
SHADOW.
THE THINGS THAT STUCK WITH
ME AFTER I LEFT THE HOME, THE
LIES THAT BUILT MY HEART AND MY
MIND AND SOUL WAS THE
INSECURITY.
MARK, YOU ARE JUNK.
IT WAS JUST SOMETHING THAT WAS
ALWAYS THERE, LIKE THE SUN
RISING IN THE MORNING AND THE
SUN SETTING AT NIGHT.
MY ABUSE WAS ALWAYS THERE.
IT WAS ALWAYS ABOUT ME.
THE ANXIETIES AND FEARS
BEGAN TO AFFECT HIS HEALTH.
HE FOUND COMFORT IN FOOD UNTIL
A FREEDIVE NEGLECT DIAGNOSIS
TOLD HIM TO -- HE KNEW
SOMETHING NEEDED TO CHANGE.
I WAS ALWAYS WAITING FOR THE
DAY IS THAT THE HERTZ WOULD NO
LONGER BE THERE.
THAT DAY NEVER CAME.
WHAT HAPPENED IS THAT GOD
BECAME LOUDER.
GOT BECAME BIGGER.
MY GOD IS STRONGER.
I STARTED TO GET CONFIDENCE NOT
IN ME BUT ONE THAT COMES FROM
KNOWING MY GOD CAN STILL OPEN
DOORS AND MOVE MOUNTAINS.
HE CAN STILL MAKE A WAY.
HE CONFRONTED HIS PASSED
THROUGH PRAYER, READING GOD'S
WORD AND COUNSELING.
HE THEN FOUND TRUE HEALING WHEN
HE MADE THE CHOICE TO FORGIVE
HIS ABUSER.
FORGIVENESS CHANGED
EVERYTHING BECAUSE IT SEVERED
THE ATTACKS.
IT SEVERED THE LIES OF MY
ABUSER.
NOW, GOD'S TRUTH ECHOED LOUDER
THAN THE ABUSER.
I HAVE FORGIVEN MY ABUSER BY
GIVING HIM INTO THE HANDS OF
GOD.
TALKING TO COUNSELORS, TALKING
TO CHRISTIAN SOCIAL WORKERS,
HAVING MENTORS IN YOUR LIFE,
THAT IS HOW ALL THIS CAME TO
PLACE.
I GAVE MYSELF THE FREEDOM TO
SAY, YOU KNOW WHAT, I'M ANGRY
TODAY.
CAN I REALLY FORGIVE?
I CANNOT, EXCEPT FOR CHRIST.
HE RECONCILED WITH HIS
MOTHER BEFORE SHE PASSED AWAY
AND MET HIS BIOLOGICAL FATHER
AT THE AGE OF 45.
HE ASKED MARK TO FORGIVE HIM
FOR HIS ABANDONMENT.'S
PHYSICAL, MENTAL, AND SPIRITUAL
LIFE ARE HEALTHY NOW AND HE
STARTED A MINISTRY CALLED FOR
GIVING THE NIGHTMARE, WHERE HE
SHARES HIS STORY OF OVERCOMING
ABUSE THROUGH THE LOVE OF
CHRIST.
GOD SAID, YOU'RE NO LONGER A
VICTIM.
YOUR NO LONGER ABUSED.
YOU ARE NO LONGER LEFT OVER.
YOU ARE NO LONGER JUNK.
YOU ARE NO LONGER BROKEN.
NOW, THROUGH ME, AND ONLY
THROUGH ME AND IN ME ARE YOU AN
OVERCOME HER.
NOW, MY NAME IS NO LONGER
VICTIM BUT VICTORIOUS.
NOW MY NAME IS NO LONGER
BROKEN.
IT IS OVERCOME HER.
I LIVE IN THAT.
MY IDENTITY -- IT IS TRUE,
100%, THAT I WAS ABUSED,
NEGLECTED, RAPED THAT IS 100%
TRUE BUT THAT IS NOT WHO I AM.
WHO I AM IS WHAT CHRIST CALLS
ME.
I AM A SON OF GOD.
I AM A SERVANT OF THE MOST HIGH
AND I AM DELIVERED AND SET FREE
IN JESUS.
YOU CAN HAVE THAT SAME
FREEDOM.
YOU CAN BECOME MORE THAN A
CONQUEROR THROUGH THE LOVE OF
CHRIST GIVEN TO YOU.
THAT IS WHAT THE BIBLE SAYS.
YOU CAN OVERCOME THIS.
JUST LIKE MARK, YOU ARE NO
LONGER A VICTIM.
YES, THESE THINGS HAPPENED TO
ME.
YES, I WAS ABUSED BUT I NO
LONGER CHOOSE TO BE A VICTIM.
I CHOOSE TO OVERCOME IT THROUGH
LOVE.
HIS STORY MIGHT BE YOUR STORY.
MAYBE YOU WERE ABUSED
PHYSICALLY AND MAYBE YOU WERE
ABUSED SEXUALLY.
MAYBE THINGS WERE DONE TO YOU
WHERE YOU HAD NO CONTROL AT ALL
AND YOU KEEP GOING BACK TO
THOSE MOMENTS AND WHAT DID I DO
WRONG?
WHAT COULD I HAVE DONE BETTER
OR WHAT COULD I HAVE DONE
DIFFERENTLY AND ALL OF THESE
FONTS HAUNT YOU.
JUST LIKE MARK, YOU CAN BE
FREE.
YOU CAN SAY, JUST LIKE MARK,
YES, THIS HAPPENED TO ME BUT I
HAVE OVERCOME AND I HAVE
OVERCOME BECAUSE I HAVE A
SAVIOR WHO LOVES ME AND WHO
WANTS TO SEE ME THREE.
WHEN YOU UNDERSTAND THE POWER
OF FORGIVENESS, HOW IT
LITERALLY SETS YOU FREE, THEN
YOU WILL WANT TO DO THAT.
YOU WILL WANT TO BE FREE.
THAT IS A PROCESS.
FOR MARK, BEGAN WITH A PRAYER,
WHERE HE ASKED JESUS TO JOIN
HIM IN HIS JOURNEY AND HE SAID,
JESUS, COULD YOU COME INTO MY
HEART?
COULD YOU BE WITH ME?
AFTER THAT, HE SAID, I WANT TO
FOLLOW HIM.
I WILL BE A PASTOR.
I WILL GO TO BIBLE SCHOOL.
HE HAD NOT GOTTEN THROUGH THE
PAIN.
HAD NOT GOTTEN THROUGH WHAT HAD
HAPPENED.
THE NEXT STEP WAS ACCEPTING IT
AND GOING THROUGH THE ANGER.
THEY SHOULD NOT HAVE BEEN.
THEY SHOULD HAVE NEVER HAPPENED
TO ME.
THE QUESTION, WHY DID IT
HAPPEN?
THEN, GETTING TO THE
RESOLUTION.
I CHOOSE TO FORGIVE.
I CHOOSE TO SET MYSELF FREE.
I CHOOSE THE PATH OF LOVE AND
FORGIVENESS.
I CHOOSE TO WALK IN THE LIGHT,
JUST AS JESUS IS IN THE LIGHT.
IT IS NOT A DENIAL OF WHAT
HAPPENED.
IT IS AN ACCEPTANCE AND A
FORGIVENESS AND IN THAT, YOU
CAN BE SET FREE.
THERE ARE LOTS OF STAGES TO
FORGIVENESS.
IN MY OWN LIFE, FORGIVING
MYSELF WAS A BIG PROBLEM
BECAUSE I SAID, WELL, I KNEW
BETTER.
I DID THINGS AND I KNEW I WAS
WRONG.
SOME OF US, YOU HAVE ANGER
TOWARDS GOD.
WHERE WAS GOD WHEN THIS
HAPPENED TO ME?
FOR SOME OTHERS, IT IS FAMILY
MEMBERS, THOSE WHO WERE CLOSEST
TO US.
IT IS SOMEONE CLOSE TO YOU THAT
BETRAYS YOU.
WHEN YOU CHOOSE TO SAY, I
FORGIVE, I SET THEM FREE, I OWE
THEM NOTHING, THEY OWE ME
NOTHING -- YOU CAN WALK FREE.
IF YOU WANT THIS, IF YOU WANT
TO HAVE THIS FREEDOM, DO WHAT
MARK DID.
START WITH ASKING JESUS TO COME
INTO YOUR HEART.
DO THAT RIGHT NOW.
BOW YOUR HEAD WITH ME.
LET'S PRAY A VERY SIMPLE
PRAYER.
YOU BECOME MORE THAN A
CONQUEROR THROUGH THE LOVE OF
CHRIST GIVEN TO US.
HOW DO YOU GET THAT LOVE?
WELL, YOU ASK FOR IT.
LET'S PRAY TOGETHER AND LET GOD
DO ALL THE REST.
PRAY WITH ME.
JESUS.
SAY HIS NAME AND SAY IT OUT
LOUD.
JESUS.
I ASK THAT YOU WOULD COME INTO
MY HEART.
I ASK THAT YOU WOULD SET ME
FREE.
I ASK, FIRST, THAT YOU WOULD
FORGIVE ME OF ALL THE THINGS
THAT I HAVE DONE WRONG.
NOW, I ASK THAT YOU GIVE ME THE
LOVE, GIVE ME YOUR FORGIVENESS,
THAT I CAN FORGIVE OTHERS.
I SET THEM FREE.
THEY OWE ME NOTHING.
I HOLD NOTHING AGAINST THEM.
I WANT TO BE FREE OF ALL THE
ANGER, THE BITTERNESS, THE
HURT, THE PAIN.
LORD, GOD ALMIGHTY, TAKE IT ALL
FROM ME NOW.
JESUS, I WANT TO FOLLOW YOU.
I WANT TO WALK IN YOUR LIGHT,
IN YOUR PRESENCE.
BE WITH ME NOW, FOR I ASK IT IN
JESUS' NAME, AMEN.
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> COMING UP, A RECORD-
BREAKING NEW YORK TIMES BEST-
SELLING AUTHOR, DEBBIE
MacOMBER, TELLS US WHY SHE DID
NOT LEARN HOW TO READ UNTIL SHE
WAS JUST 10 YEARS OLD.
YOU ALSO SHARE THE SECRET
BEHIND THE SUCCESS OF HER
WILDLY POPULAR NOVELS.
THAT IS LATER ON TODAY'S 700
CLUB.
> THIS 29-YEAR-OLD HAD QUITE
THE BIRTH THE BUT THEN HE
CHANGED HIS MIND, DECIDING TO
HELP PEOPLE BY ORGANIZING A GAS
GIVEAWAY, DOLING OUT $40 OF GAS
TO EACH DRIVER TO FILL UP.
HE SPENT $20,000 PUMPING
BLESSINGS INTO THE COMMUNITY
ONE GAS TANK AT A TIME.
HE SAYS HE JUST WANTED TO BRING
HOPE.
OPERATION BLESSING IS BRINGING
RELIEF TO THE VICTIMS OF
DEVASTATING FLOODS THAT ARE
HITTING WESTERN VIRGINIA.
MORE THAN 110 HOMES AND
BUSINESSES --
> SCHOOL WAS NOTHING BUT
FRUSTRATING FOR A BOY FROM
INDONESIA. HE WAS ON THE VERGE
OF GIVING UP ONE HIS MOTHER
ENROLLED HIM IN AN AFTER-SCHOOL
PROGRAM.
IT TURNS OUT IT DID MORE THAN
JUST HELP FAREL WITH SCHOOLWORK
BUT KEPT HIM FROM STARVING
WITH HIS FAMILY.
10-YEAR-OLD FAREL LIVES IN
THIS COMMUNITY IN INDONESIA.
HE WAS STRUGGLING IN SCHOOL.
I REALLY STRUGGLED TO LEARN
ENGLISH.
I REMEMBER, ONE DAY, I FELT
LIKE GETTING UP AND WALKING OUT
OF CLASS.
HIS MOM ENROLLED HIM IN A
FREE AFTER-SCHOOL PROGRAM IN
THEIR COMMUNITY, SUPPORTED BY
CBN'S ORPHAN'S PROMISE.
THEY SAID THE TEACHERS HELPED
WITH SCHOOLWORK AND GAVE HIM
SNACKS AND A HOT MEAL ONCE A
WEEK.
ALL OF THE TEACHERS AT THE
AFTER-SCHOOL PROGRAM ARE KIND.
THEY WORKED WITH ME UNTIL I
UNDERSTOOD MY LESSONS.
AS A CHRISTIAN, FAREL SAID
HE ALSO LEARNED MORE ABOUT THE
BIBLE THROUGH CBN'S SUPERBOOK.
I LOVED THE SUPERBOOK STORY
OF DAVID.
I WANTED TO TRUST IN THE LORD
JUST LIKE DAVID BELIEVED IN
HIM.
DURING THE HEIGHT OF THE
COVID PANDEMIC, THE AFTER-
SCHOOL PROGRAM SHUT DOWN.
HIS MOTHER, WHO WAS A SINGLE
PARENT, LOST HER JOB AND
WORRIED ABOUT RUNNING OUT OF
FOOD.
ONE DAY, WE ONLY HAD A
LITTLE RICE LEFT TO EAT BECAUSE
SHE DID NOT HAVE MONEY TO
PURCHASE FOOD.
SO, ORPHAN'S PROMISE
DELIVERED PACKS WITH RICE, OIL,
SUGAR, AND NOODLES TO THE
FAMILY.
HIS MOM SAID SHE WAS ABLE TO
STRETCH THAT FOOD SUPPLY AND
MAKE IT LAST FOR A FEW WEEKS.
I REMEMBER DURING THE EARLY
MONTHS, WHEN COVID HIT,
ORPHAN'S PROMISE GAVE US FOOD
PACKS TWICE A MONTH.
THOSE FOOD PACKS REALLY HELPED
TO SUPPLY OUR NEEDS DURING THE
PANDEMIC.
I WAS REALLY HAPPY TO
RECEIVE THE FOOD.
HIS MOM HAS NOW FOUND A NEW
JOB AND THE AFTER-SCHOOL
PROGRAM HAS REOPENED.
I REALLY THANK ORPHAN'S
PROMISE FOR HELPING MY SON IN
THE SCHOOL PROGRAM.
I AM REALLY GRATEFUL FOR THE
FOOD PACKS THEY GAVE US.
IT MEANS SO MUCH.
THANK YOU TO ALL THE PEOPLE
WHO HELPED ME AND MY MOM.
GOD BLESS YOU ALL.
THAT THANK YOU AND THOSE
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THEY WANT US TO BE A BLESSING
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PARTNER WITH US, THAT IS WHAT
YOU ARE DOING.
YOU ARE BLESSING CHILDREN AND
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WE HELP PEOPLE IN THE U.S. IF
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JUST TEXT CBN TO 71777 AND YOU
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WHEN YOU PARTNER WITH US, WE
WILL GIVE YOU A GIFT IN RETURN.
THIS IS OUR WAY OF SAYING THANK
YOU.
IT IS OUR LATEST TEACHING,
CALLED "PUTTING ON THE ARMOR OF
GOD."
PAT READ THROUGH THE BOOK OF
EPHESIANS AND THERE IS -- HE IS
ABLE TO ELABORATE ON SOME OF
THE TOPICS THAT ARE DISCUSSED
AND MENTIONED IN EPHESIANS AND
NOW IS A GREAT TIME TO READ
THROUGH THE BOOK OF EPHESIANS
AND PUTTING ON THE ARMOR OF
GOD.
IF YOU WANT THIS AND WANT TO
CHANGE THE LIVES OF PEOPLE
AROUND THE WORLD, IN THE NAME
OF JESUS, PARTNER WITH US
TODAY.
GIVE US A CALL AT 1-800-700-
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> UP NEXT, A THIRD GRADE
TEACHER ONCE SAID SHE WOULD
NEVER AMOUNT TO ANYTHING.
FINES ONE SET HER JOURNEY
HAPPEN ANYWAY.
SHE IS JOINING US RIGHT AFTER
THIS.
> DEBBIE MacOMBER WAS JUST 30
YEARS OLD AND A STAY-AT-HOME
MOM WHEN SHE WROTE HER FIRST
NOVEL.
FIVE YEARS LATER, SHE SOLD HER
FIRST BOOK.
TODAY, SHE IS AN INTERNATIONAL
SENSATION WITH RECORD-BREAKING
BOOK SALES.
DEBBIE MacOMBER IS A NEW
YORK TIMES BEST-SELLING AUTHOR
WITH OVER 200 MILLION BOOKS
PRINTED WORLDWIDE.
SEVERAL OF HER NOVELS HAVE
BECOME MAJOR TV SERIES.
IN HER LATEST NOVEL, THE BEST
IS YET TO COME, IT FOLLOWS A
ROW MONTHS AND A MYSTERY AND
THE HOPE OF NEW BEGINNINGS.
PLEASE WELCOME BACK TO THE
700 CLUB THE AUTHOR OF THE
NEWEST NOVEL, THE BEST IS YET
TO COME.
DEBBIE MacOMBER, THANK YOU FOR
BEING WITH US TODAY.
IT IS MY JOY.
IT IS OUR JOY AS WELL.
BEFORE WE TALK ABOUT YOUR NEW
BOOK, LET'S TURN BACK THE
CLOCK.
YOU WERE JUST 10 YEARS OLD AND
YOU COULD NOT READ.
WHY WAS THAT?
THEY TOLD MY MOTHER THAT I
WAS A NICE, LITTLE GIRL BUT I
WOULD NEVER DO WELL.
I HEARD THAT AND I BELIEVE THAT
BECAUSE SHE SAID IT.
SO, I STARTED OFF -- IT WAS NOT
UNTIL I WAS 10, IN THE FIFTH
GRADE, WHEN I UNDERSTOOD HOW TO
SOUND OUT WORDS.
SOMETHING CLICKED IN MY BRAIN.
IT WAS A GIFT GOD GAVE ME.
HE GAVE ME THE GIFT OF
IMAGINATION.
HOW DID YOU OVERCOME THAT
SENSE OF FAILURE AND THOSE LIES
THAT YOU BELIEVED YOU COULD NOT
DO ANYTHING BECAUSE YOU WERE
DYSLEXIC?
I KNOW WHAT WAS THE LORD.
I BECAME A CHRISTIAN WHEN I WAS
22.
WHEN I ACCEPTED CHRIST INTO MY
LIFE, IT GAVE ME THE POWER TO
BELIEVE IN MYSELF BECAUSE HE
BELIEVED IN ME.
HE IS THE ONE WHO GAVE ME THIS
GIFT.
> AMEN.
EVERY TIME I THOUGHT ABOUT
BEING A RIDER, RIDING STORIES,
I FELT JOY.
I LOVE THAT.
YOU SAY THAT GOD GAVE YOU THE
GIFT OF STORYTELLING.
WHAT DO YOU MEAN BY THAT?
WELL, IT IS PART OF MY
PERSONALITY, TO SEE A STORY IN
EVERYTHING THAT HAPPENS IN LIFE
AND SO MUCH OF WHO I AM IS A
STORYTELLER.
EVEN AS A CHILD, AS A
BABYSITTER, I WAS THE MOST
POPULAR BABYSITTER BECAUSE I
WOULD MAKE UP STORIES FOR THE
CHILDREN FOR ENTERTAINMENT.
THAT WAS JUST AS A KID.
AMEN.
TAKE US BACK TO THE MOMENT WHEN
YOU WROTE YOUR FIRST BOOK.
YOU WERE 30 YEARS OLD.
YOU ARE A STAY-AT-HOME MOM OF
FOUR.
SURE THE MAMAS ARE LIKE, HOW
DID SHE FIND THE TIME?
WHAT WAS IT LIKE WHEN YOU SOLD
YOUR FIRST BOOK?
OKAY, IT WAS ABOUT TWO OLDER
GIRLS THAT WERE AT SCHOOL.
I HAD TWO HOURS EVERY DAY TO
RIDE.
I HAD A TYPEWRITER.
YOU KNOW, I JUST WANTED TO BE A
RIDER SO BAD.
I NEVER WANTED ANYTHING MORE IN
MY LIFE.
IT TOOK FIVE YEARS TO SELL.
THAT WAS -- ANYTIME GOD DOES A
BIG WORK IN SOMEBODY'S LIFE, HE
DOES IT IN A WAY THAT YOU WILL
THINK ABOUT -- ALL OF US HAVE
GONE THROUGH A TIME WHERE GOD
WORKS IN OUR LIVES.
THAT IS WHAT HE DID FOR ME.
AMEN, THAT IS A WORD RIGHT
THERE.
THANK YOU FOR THAT, DEBBIE.
YOU HAVE BEEN CALLED THE
LEADING VOICE OF WOMEN'S
FICTION, YET YOUR STYLE OF
RIDING IS THE OPPOSITE OF MOST
POPULAR FICTION.
HOW DO YOU ACCOUNT FOR YOUR
SUCCESS?
FIRST OF ALL, I CAN TELL YOU
I IT -- GOD IS WITH ME.
I PRAY TO GOD ABOUT EVERY BOOK
I RIDE, EVERY SINGLE TITLE.
IT COMES BACK TO MY MISSION
STATEMENT.
EARLY IN MY CAREER, I HAD TO
CHOOSE A MISSION STATEMENT.
IT WAS ME, ME, ME.
I WANT TO BE A BESTSELLER.
I WANT TO HAVE AN AUDIENCE.
I LOOKED AT THAT LIST AND I
THOUGHT, I AM PUTTING MYSELF
FIRST BUT GOD HAS TO BE FIRST.
IT WAS NO SURPRISE TO ME --
WHEN I WAS -- WHEN GOD MADE HIS
COVENANT WITH ABRAHAM IN
GENESIS 12, HE SAID I WILL MAKE
YOU A BLESSING.
THAT IS MY MISSION STATEMENT.
MY BOOKS AND MY PRAYER IS THAT
MY BOOKS WILL BE A BLESSING TO
OTHERS.
AMEN TO THAT.
DEBBIE'S LATEST BOOK IS CALLED
"THE BEST IS YET TO COME."
IT IS AVAILABLE WHEREVER BOOKS
ARE SOLD AND I ENCOURAGE YOU TO
GET IT.
THANK YOU FOR BEING WITH US
TODAY AND THANK YOU FOR ALL OF
THE MANY AMAZING STORIES YOU
HAVE GIVEN US.
THANK YOU.
IT WAS MY PLEASURE.
GOD BLESS YOU.
I THINK WE HAVE TIME FOR
SOME EMAILS.
LET'S GO FOR IT.
THIS IS DENISE.
SHE SAYS, GORDON, WHERE IN THE
BIBLE DID YOU EVER READ THAT
OUR PHYSICAL BODIES WILL BE
RESURRECTED?
ONLY OUR SPIRIT CAN BE
RESURRECTED.
THE BODY RETURNS TO THE EARTH
AND CAN NEVER BE PUT BACK
TOGETHER AGAIN.
I HAVE A LOT OF SCRIPTURE
WHERE THE BODIES ARE
RESURRECTED AND IT BECAME --
THE CONTROVERSY IN THE EARLY
CHURCH, PARTICULARLY IN THE
GREEK CHURCH, WAS BECAUSE THE
GREEKS HAVE THIS NOTION THAT
YOUR SOUL WENT ON, YOUR BODY
WENT INTO THE GROUND AND
DECAYED AND WAS GONE FOREVER,
AND THE ONLY THING THAT WOULD
LAST WOULD BE YOUR SOUL.
THIS IS WHY THE APOSTLES' CREED
SAYS, I BELIEVE IN THE
RESURRECTION OF THE BODY.
THE APOSTLE PAUL DEALT WITH IT
AND SOME -- IF CHRIST IS
PREACHING HE HAS BEEN RAISED
FROM THE DEAD, HOW DO YOU SAY
THERE IS NO RESURRECTION OF THE
DEAD?
IF THERE IS NO RESURRECTION OF
THE DEAD, THEN CHRIST IS NOT
RISEN.
IF CHRIST IS NOT RISEN, THEN
OUR PREACHING IS EMPTY AND YOUR
FAITH IS EMPTY.
YES, WE ARE ALSO FINDING FALSE
WITNESSES OF GOD BECAUSE WE
HAVE TESTIFIED OF GOD HE RAISED
UP CHRIST, IN WHOM HE DID NOT
RAISE UP IF THE DEAD DO NOT
RISE.
CHRIST IS NOT RISEN -- DID
JESUS RISE BODILY?
THE ANSWER IS, CLEARLY, YES.
THE STONE WAS ROLLED AWAY AND
THE GRAVE WAS EMPTY.
DID LAZARUS RISE BODILY?
YES, HE DEAD.
HE WAS DEAD FOUR DAYS AND HE
ROSE BODILY.
PAUL GOES ON, IN THE SAME
CHAPTER, FIRST CORINTHIANS 15.
IT IS THE SAME WAY WITH THE
RESURRECTION OF THE DEAD.
OUR EARTHLY BODIES ARE PLANTED
IN THE GROUND WHEN WE DIE, THE
DAY OUR EARTHLY BODIES WILL BE
RAISED TO LIVE FOREVER.
OUR BODIES ARE BURIED IN
BROKENNESS BUT THEY WILL BE
RAISED IN GLORY.
THEY WERE BURIED IN WEAKNESS
BUT THEY WILL BE RAISED IN
STRENGTH.
THEY WILL BE RAISED AS
SPIRITUAL BODIES.
THERE ARE NATURAL BODIES AND
ALSO SPIRITUAL BODIES.
IT IS QUITE CLEAR THAT THERE IS
THE RESURRECTION OF THE BODY.
THE SAME THING HAPPENED WHEN
JESUS DIED.
BODIES CAME TO LIFE.
IT WAS IN MATTHEW 27, VERSUS 51
THROUGH 53.
THE VEIL OF THE TEMPLE WAS TORN
IN TWO FROM TOP TO BOTTOM.
THE EARTHQUAKE AND THE ROCKS
WERE SPLIT AND THE GRAVES WERE
OPENED AND MANY BODIES OF THE
SAINTS THAT HAD FALLEN ASLEEP
WERE RAISED.
COMING OUT OF THE GRAVES, AFTER
HIS RESURRECTION, THEY WENT
INTO THE HOLY CITY AND APPEARED
TO MANY.
HERE ARE THE WORDS OF JESUS
FROM JOHN 5. THE OUR IS COMING
WHEN THE DEAD WILL HEAR THE
WORDS OF THE SON OF GOD AND
THOSE THAT HERE IT WILL LIVE.
AS THE FATHER HAS LIFE IN
HIMSELF, SO HE HAS GRANTED THE
SON TO HAVE LIFE IN HIMSELF AND
HAS GIVEN HIM AUTHORITY TO
EXECUTE JUDGMENT, ALSO BECAUSE
HE IS THE SON OF MAN.
THE HOUR IS COMING IN WHICH ALL
WHO ARE IN THE GRAVES WILL HEAR
HIS VOICE AND COME FORTH.
THOSE WHO HAVE DONE GOOD TO THE
RESURRECTION OF LIFE AND THOSE
WHO HAVE DONE EVIL TO THE
RESURRECTION OF CONDEMNATION.
JESUS HIMSELF IS SAYING THE
DEAD WILL BE ABLE TO HEAR.
YOU LOOK AT THE STORY OF
LAZARUS, AND HE IS DEAD FOUR
DAYS AND HIS SISTER SAYS, LORD,
HE SPEAKETH.
HE CAME BACK TO LIFE.
HOW DID HE HEAR?
I DO NOT KNOW, BUT HE DID.
WHEN JESUS SAYS, LAZARUS COME
FORTH, LAZARUS CAME FORTH.
THE SAME WILL HAPPEN FOR THOSE
WHO DIE IN CHRIST FOR THEY WILL
BE ABLE TO HEAR OUR SHEPPARD'S
VOICE.
THEY WILL RISE AGAIN.
WILL THEIR BODY BE THE SAME?
I DO NOT THINK SO.
YOU LOOK AT THE RESURRECTION OF
LAZARUS.
I HAVE BEEN TO HIS SECOND TOMB
IN CYPRUS AND HE WAS RAISED
INTO A NATURAL BODY.
WHEN JESUS WAS RAISED FROM THE
DEAD, HIS BODY HAD SOME UNUSUAL
CHARACTERISTICS.
HE COULD GO THROUGH WALLS AND
WOULD NEVER DIE AGAIN.
WE WILL HAVE THE SAME THING.
IT IS VERY MUCH A PHYSICAL
RESURRECTION, WHICH IS WHY THE
APOSTLES CREATE SAYS I BELIEVE
IN THE RESURRECTION OF THE
BODY.
GET THAT STRAIGHT.
THERE IS A WHOLE THEOLOGY OF
WHAT HAPPENS TO THOSE WHO ARE
LOST AT SEA AND A WHOLE
THEOLOGY TO THOSE WHO ARE
BURNED, WHERE THE BODIES ARE
NOT DISCOVERED ANYMORE AND
THERE IS NO GRAVE FOR HIM TO
COME OUT OF, BUT HAVE IT AS AN
ARTICLE OF FAITH.
BELIEVE IN THE RESURRECTION OF
THE BODY.
YOU JUST GOT SCHOOLED,
Y'ALL.
IN A GOOD WAY.
IN A REALLY GOOD WAY.
THIS IS FROM MARY.
AND YOU EXPLAINED IF IT IS
NECESSARY FOR CHRISTIANS TO
TITHE 10% OF OUR INCOME OR IS
IT MOSTLY ABOUT GIVING TO GOD
CHEERFULLY WHAT YOU DECIDE TO
GIVE THAT COMES FROM THE DEPTH
OF YOUR HEART?
YOU CAN GO BACK AND FORTH ON
THIS AND THERE IS A DIFFERENCE
OF OPINION AMONG CHRISTIANS AS
TO WHAT IS THE PROPER AMOUNT TO
TITHE.
LOOK TO THE EARLY CHURCH AND
THEY NEARLY GAVE EVERYTHING.
THEY WOULD SELL THEIR PROPERTY
AND GIVE IT ALL AND IF THEY
HELD BACK A PORTION AND WOULD
TRY TO CLAIM THEY WERE GIVING
ALL, THE HOLY SPIRIT DID NOT
LIKE THAT AT ALL.
SOME PEOPLE, TODAY, BELIEVE 10%
IS JUST THE BEGINNING AND TRY
TO GIVE 20%.
SOME PEOPLE SAY I WANT TO GIVE
90% AND JUST KEEP 10% . I WANT
TO DO A REVERSE TITHE.
I LIVE ON 10% OF MY INCOME.
I HAVE ACTUALLY SEEN PEOPLE
THAT HAVE PULLED THAT OFF,
WHICH IS A MIRACLE.
HOWEVER, I AGREE WITH YOU.
GIVE CHEERFULLY AND GIVE AS GOD
DIRECTS YOU AND IF YOU HAVE A
LIFE OF GIVING, GIVING 10% IS A
WAY YOU CAN DO THAT PRETTY
EASILY.
THERE ARE FIVE PLACES WHERE YOU
CAN HELP OTHERS AND LAY UP YOUR
TREASURE IN HEAVEN.
YOU WILL HAVE ETERNAL GLORY.
HERE IS A WORD FROM JOB.
I WILL POUR OUT MY SPIRIT ON
YOUR SONS AND DAUGHTERS AND
THEY SHALL PROPHESY AND YOUR
OLD MEN SHALL DREAM DREAMS AND
YOUR YOUNG MEN SHALL SEE
VISIONS.