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TONIGHT: THE DEATH OF AN AMERICAN ICON; FORMER SECRETARY OF STATE COLIN POWELL, FULLY-VACCINATED, HAS DIED FROM COVID COMPLICATIONS. REMEMBERING THE FOUR-STAR GENERAL WHO BROKE GROUND AS THE FIRST BLACK CHAIRMAN OF THE JOINT CHIEFS OF STAFF ... Read Transcript


- [Jenna] Tonight,

the death of an American icon.

Former Secretary of StateColin Powell, fully vaccinated,

has died from COVID complications.

Remembering the four-star general

who broke ground as thefirst black chairman

of the joint chiefs of staffand America's top diplomat.

Plus, kidnapped in Haiti.

17 Christian missionaries,men, women, and children,

nearly all of them American.

- US officials now are working,I'm sure, around the clock.

- [Jenna] And.

- God is not a Republican,

that God loves everybody.

- CBN founder Pat pat Robertson

on God, politics, and heaven.

All this and more tonighton "Faith Nation."

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Good evening. I'm Jenna Browder.

Tonight, 17 Christian missionaries

remain kidnapped in Haiti,

nearly all of them Americans.

We will have more onthat in just a moment,

but first, remembering an American great.

After four decades of publicservice and breaking barriers,

military hero, former Secretary of State

and Joint Chiefs Chairman Colin Powell

has died at the age of 84.

The beloved leader madehistory as the first black man

to hold those positions.

Powell reportedly sufferedfrom a form of cancer,

but his death was due tocomplications from COVID-19.

Tributes have been pouring in all day

from people across the political spectrum.

And tonight the White Househas ordered all US flags

to fly at half staff.

CBN's Tara Mergener leads us off.

Tara.

- Jenna, Colin Powell spent his adult life

serving his country with35 years in the military

and as trusted advisor toeach American president

from Ronald Reagan until George W. Bush.

The US defense secretarysaying Colin Powell's passing

is like a hole in his heart.

- The world lost oneof the greatest leaders

that we have ever witnessed.

- [Tara] Though fully vaccinated,

his family announcing he diedfrom COVID complications.

- There are extremely rare cases of deaths

or hospitalizations amongfully vaccinated individuals.

That has been the case

even before the death of Colin Powell.

- [Tara] There are alsoreports he'd been diagnosed

with multiple myeloma,a type of blood cancer

that weakens the body's ability

to protect against infections.

In a statement, the Powellfamily remembering him

as a remarkable and lovinghusband, father, grandfather,

and a great American.

The son of Jamaican parents,

Powell's life started in Harlem,

later graduating fromCity College of New York

and joining the Army through ROTC.

He completed two decoratedcombat tours in Vietnam,

rose to national security advisor

for President Ronald Reagan,

and eventually servedunder four presidents.

- Colin L. Powell, the65th secretary of state.

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- [Tara] IncludingPresident George W. Bush.

- General Powell is an American hero,

an American example, anda great American story.

- [Tara] Who after learningof Powell's death wrote,

"Laura and I are deeply saddened

by the death of Colin Powell.

He was a great public servant."

Along with his service came controversy

following this 2003 United Nations speech

defending the US invasion of Iraq.

- There can be no doubt

that Saddam Husseinhas biological weapons.

- [Tara] While thoseweapons were never found,

Powell maintained it wasan intelligence failure

and insisted the decisionwas the right one.

Once part of the GOP, Powelltwice endorsed Barack Obama.

Then after the deadly January6th attack on the US Capitol,

he said he no longer consideredhimself a Republican.

- Right now I'm just watching my country

and not concerned with parties.

- [Tara] Highly regarded bypolitical leaders worldwide.

- His experience, his patriotism.

He gave us his decency.

- He also twice received thePresidential Medal of Freedom.

Powell leaves behind his wifeof 48 years, Alma Powell,

and his son, Michael.

He was 84. Jenna.

- All right, Tara, thank you very much.

And here with us now is Michael O'Hanlon,

senior fellow and directorof research in foreign policy

at the Brookings Institution.

Michael, it's great to haveyou with us this evening.

I want to start just by talking about

how you knew Colin Powell.

Tell us about your relationship

and also your reaction to his passing.

- Well, like a lot ofpeople, I'm real sad, Jenna.

I don't say that I knew him well,

but I was lucky to have crossedpaths a couple of times.

And what was striking to mewas that he remembered me.

He went out of his way to say nice things,

to refer to our previous conversations,

or indicated that heknew what I'd been up to.

And, you know, he didn't have to say that.

He's a legend. He's a lion.

He's just one of the greats of all time.

But I think that was reflective

of the way that he would takecare of certainly his soldiers

when he was in positions of command

and just try to nurture andsupport people in general

and always with the independent streak,

politically, that you mentioned,

but also, always with anendeavor to do the right thing.

A very principle-based based person who,

he was around long enough

he was gonna make a mistake or two,

but he got a lot of things right

and he was always tryingto do the ethical thing.

I really admired the man.

- Yeah.

We're looking at photos of him here

with people on all walksof the political spectrum,

Democrats, Republicans.

He served in four administrations.

You know, Michael,people have talked about

his outstanding character, andwhile he had great strength,

he also had humility.

Talk about his attitude andhis approach in his four,

the four administrationsthat he served in.

- Well, you're right, Jenna.

It is tough to...

I mean, he had a commanding presence.

This was not a shrinking violet.

And you know that and I know that.

Everybody who saw him knows that.

But at the same time, hewas not arrogant or vain.

At least I always was struck by how much,

when I would encounterhim, he wanted to talk,

you know, as equals in effect.

And when he was takingbriefings, he had a reputation

for being thoughtful, listeningwell, taking in information.

He knew that the decisionshe was being asked

to contribute to weredifficult and very important.

People's lives were on the line,

and so he didn't have a lot of time

for just putting his ego out there

or worrying about getting credit.

And he was a team player,you know, and as you say,

he did this throughmultiple administrations,

multiple stages in his career.

And he began in Vietnam,which you mentioned

at the beginning of the package,but it's worth remembering

because the Vietnam War was so difficult.

The military was not ingreat condition in Vietnam.

He really came up through theranks in that period of time.

He was hurt twice in Vietnam.

He understood what itmeant to send a military

to a war that wasn't well-defined

and when the military itselfwas not well-resourced,

and I think he resolvedfrom that point onward

never to be part of decisions,

or at least never to support decisions

that would repeat any ofthose Vietnam era mistakes.

Of course, he had somecontroversy around him,

and you alluded to that as well,

but I don't think you'regonna go through the career

that he did not get involved

in some pretty difficult decisions.

- Right.

You know, Michael, thereis the controversy,

there's so many storiesfrom people about this man,

this giant of American history.

How do you think historywill remember Colin Powell?

- I think very well,

even people who don't thinkthe Bush administration

handled the decision on goingto war in Iraq very well.

Obviously, Colin Powell wasnot the main perpetrator

of that way of thinking.

He was trying to slowit down and challenge it

within the administration,

and we know that from multiple accounts.

So even if he gave that UN presentation

that he had some regrets about later on,

he was not the main reasonwhy, in some people's minds,

we rushed to war.

There were other debatesthat were controversial.

He was reluctant to support the idea

of gays openly serving in the military

and that became a controversial position

at the end of his uniformed career.

He went through a lot ofdifferent tough calls.

But I think he'll be best remembered

for being part of the rebuildingof the American military

after Vietnam and ultimately its success

in the first Bush administrationand Operation Desert Storm

when he was chairman of the joint chiefs.

I think for me, those accomplishments

are the most indicative of who he was

and what his career saw him accomplish.

But I also liked theindependence of thinking

where he would support Barack Obama,

even though he was a Republican.

He would criticize Donald Trump,

even though he was a Republican.

And I think he had an integrity about him

and an independence as well.

- Right.

Michael O'Hanlon, wehave to leave it there.

I wish we could talk more.

But it's great to get your insights

from someone who knew him andhad such admiration for him.

Michael O'Hanlon with BrookingsInstitution, thank you.

- Thank you, Jenna.

- And now to our other top story

and the urgent crisis unfolding in Haiti.

A desperate search is underwayfor 17 missionaries kidnapped

and taken hostage over the weekend.

For Christians, theeffort starts with prayer,

but it could include a ransom.

CBN News correspondent BrodyCarter is following this story.

And Brody, you've spoken withsome Christians serving there

and the growing dangers they're facing.

What can you tell us?

- Well, Jenna, first off,missionaries that I spoke to

say this is a warning for thechurch right here in America,

that real suffering is coming.

And they add it can beidentified when the enemy comes

to kill, steal, and destroy.

- [Representative] Werequest urgent prayer

for the group of ChristianAid Ministries workers

who were abducted while ona trip to visit an orphanage

on Saturday, October 16.

- [Brody] Christian Aid Ministries

is calling on all prayer warriors

after 17 of their missionarieswere kidnapped at gunpoint:

16 Americans and oneCanadian, including five men,

seven women, and theyoungest of five children,

just two years old.

- They're basically going for the money

and Americans have got the money.

And so they are doing this for money.

They're probably won'tharm these individuals.

They may beat 'em up.

- [Brody] The missionaries were snatched

by the notorious 400 Mawazo gang.

So far, no demand for ransom.

The apparent targetingof American church groups

has sounded alarm bellsfor other missionaries

like Dr. David Vanderpool.

- They tried to kidnapmy wife at one point.

Our base manager wasmurdered at our front gate.

And then we also hadtwo other team members

who were kidnapped andtortured for four days.

- [Brody] Dr. Vanderpool sayscriminals rule the streets,

with gang violence risingamid economic turmoil,

deadly hurricanes, andthe political disarray

following the assassinationof President Jovenel Moise.

- Kidnappings have beenup 300% month over month.

So they're mostly Haitianswho are kidnapped.

This particular kidnappingis especially worrisome

for aid workers sincenow we're being targeted.

- [Brody] The White Houseand State Department say

they're working withHaitian leaders to locate

and bring back thosemissionaries, saying, quote,

"The welfare and safetyof the US citizens abroad

is one of the highest priorities

of the Department of State."

Meantime, church leaders areputting their faith in God

to bring home the abducted.

- These gangs are justfollowing the enemy's playbook,

and we need them to followthe Lord's playbook.

Prayer is the answer.

God is in complete control,

even though it appears to beit's utter chaos for mankind.

- Christian Aid Ministrieswas founded in 1981

as a conservative Anabaptist group

and they supply Bibles across the globe.

They preach the gospel, they build houses,

and they help those whoare in desperate need.

You can learn more by heading to CBN.com.

Unfortunately, when we askedthem to make a comment,

they did not respond.

I'm Brody Carter with CBN News.

- All right, Brody, thank you.

And CBN News contributor ChuckHolton joins us now for more.

Chuck, good to see you.

Over the summer,

we saw the assassinationof the Haitian president.

Gang violence rampant there.

Talk to us about whatthe atmosphere is like

on the ground in Haiti today.

- Well, Jenna, I thinkyou have to ask yourself,

what constitutes a failed state?

At this point,

Haiti doesn't really haveany functional government

in that they don't have control.

There are many gangsthroughout the country

who are in control of the streets.

They're fighting forcontrol of various areas.

And so it's kind of afeudal warlord system

than an actual government in Haiti,

and that's a real problem.

Haiti has had manyproblems for many years.

It's the poorest countryin the Western hemisphere

and is about as close to Somalia

as you can get in this part of the world.

But in reality, the only thingthat that will change this

is for the people's hearts to change,

and that's why thesemissionaries are there,

because they're trying tochange the hearts of the people.

- Chuck, do you thinka situation like this

discourages more missionaries from going?

- Well, I know that a lot of missionaries

are having to sort of reevaluate

how they do business in Haiti.

I personally support a family member

who's been a missionarythere for many years,

and they almost haveto live like spies now.

They have to watch, notto use the same route

when they come back froma place that they go to.

They have to be carefulto vary their schedule

so that they won't getkidnapped along the way.

Kidnapping is reallythe only growth industry

in Haiti right now, and unfortunately,

missionaries don't get a pass.

If you come from the United States,

they know that you're amore able to pay ransom

than a lot of Haitians would be.

And in reality,

hundreds of people getkidnapped in Haiti every year,

and that includes morethan 100 Westerners,

you know, we'd say peoplefrom United States, Canada,

and places like that.

And it doesn't usually get a lot of news

simply because the more newsthat these kinds of events get,

the more they happen.

- Yeah.

Chuck, how is this reconciled?

How do you see this ending?

- I mean, you know, alot of people in Haiti

are asking for outside helpand support, but in reality,

the United States has essentially

purchased that country four times over

since the first time thatI went there in 1987.

And I can tell you thatit's 10 times worse today

after billions and billionsand billions of dollars

having been poured into that country

than it was 30, 40 years ago.

And so money is definitely not the answer.

I think, as I was saying andthe missionaries are saying,

the only thing that willchange this thing for good

is to change the hearts of the people.

And the only thing

that usually will changethe hearts of the people

is going through some serious hardship

so that they have to cry out to God,

and that's what I'm hearingfrom the missionaries

on the ground.

So people there are reallystarting to cry out to God.

They had a three-day protest

against kidnapping here recently,

so we know that's a big issue.

- All right, Chuck Holton,we have to leave it there.

Thank you so much.

Appreciate it.- My pleasure.

- And we'll be right back.

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- They are calling itthe Great Resignation.

The US undergoing a recordquitting spree amid the pandemic.

Four million peopleleaving their jobs in April

and another four million in June.

Almost 50% of American workerssay the pandemic has led them

to reevaluate their job choice.

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Jessica, welcome.

So why Georgia?

- So good evening, Jenna.

Thank you so much for having me.

Georgia really stood out among the states

because of its very low cost of living.

And we found that not just Georgia,

but all the states to rankreally high on our list

seemed to have eithervery low cost of living

or very low unemployment ratesand decent job growth rate.

What it's showing is thatpeople really should be moving

to the states that show a lotof promise for their future.

- How did, you went into it a little bit,

but how did BestCollegesgo about this process

of ranking the states?

You mentioned a few of the factors.

- Yeah, absolutely.

So we looked at seven differentmetrics for this study,

including median income, cost of living,

job growth rate, unemployment rate,

gender pay gap, well-being,and vaccination rate,

and we weighted eachone of those differently

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the new place theymight want to travel to.

- [Jenna] Right, right, especially now.

Things are just getting so expensive.

So Georgia, number one.

Jessica, what were someof the other top states?

- Yeah, so following Georgiawas actually New Hampshire.

Then we had Utah, Vermont, and Minnesota.

We were really surprised tosee such regional diversity

among our top five, andpleasantly surprised by that

because, you know,sometimes we might think

some states are all gonnabe clustered together,

and so it was definitely anice surprise to see that.

- Yeah, definitely.

I mean, we don't want toget too negative here,

but what were some of the states

that were at the back of the list?

- Of course, we have to mention the ones

that technically ranked worst,

but, you know, those stateswere Kentucky, Mississippi,

Ohio, West Virginia, and Louisiana.

And I want to note that,

just because they rankedlower on the list,

it doesn't mean thesestates are bad states.

For example, Mississippi hasthe lowest cost of living

in the US, but they also havethe lowest median income.

So while they may be veryinexpensive to live in,

your earnings are notnecessarily going to be as great,

which means there's not as much potential

of growth for a career.

- Right, right.

Yeah, it just dependswhat you're looking for.

Jessica Bryant withBestColleges.com, thank you.

It's great to have you on.

- Thank you.

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