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(gentle upbeat music)

- [Narrator] Tonight,

heartbreaking scenes from Afghanistan,

babies being given to us troops

as NATO fights to extendthe evacuation deadline.

Plus, a pro-life victory

in Texas where acontroversial second trimester

abortion procedure is banned,

what doctors are saying about it,

and an Oklahoma mom does what she can

to help a special group ofAfghan students in crisis.

All this and more tonight on Faith Nation.

(gentle upbeat music)

- President Biden addresses the nation and

for the first time since thechaos in Afghanistan began,

takes tough questions from reporters.

Good evening, I'm Jenna Browder.

The biggest concern the president says

is evacuating Americans.

- Any American who wants tocome home, we will get you home.

- Meanwhile, thousandsof stranded Americans

and Afghans are trying to do just

that and escape the Taliban.

While President Biden maintains his stance

on the military pull-out,

radical Islamist's areintensifying their threats

to US allies and would-be refugees.

CBN's Brody Carter joins uswith tonight's top story, Brody.

- Jenna, President Bidengetting slammed tonight

on Twitter after claimingnobody is having trouble

getting to Kabul Airport.

The Pentagon confirmed only two flights

have taken off after a backlog

of refugees grounded planesfor about eight hours.

Now the evacuation missionhas resumed as thousands

of people wait to berescued in Afghanistan.

(child crying)

A major question tonight,when might the chaos ease?

(gun firing)

There seems to be nosign with ongoing scenes

of soldiers trying tocontain crowds rushing

to the airports, now their only hope

of escaping Afghanistan

as neighboring countriesclosed their borders.

- I've been stuck herefor the past two days.

I'm trying to get in, Iwent to the Americans,

they pushed me out.

- (speaking in foreign language).

- [Brody] Women and children scream

for US NATO soldiers to let them in,

watch this heartbreaking footage

of parents pleading forsoldiers to save their child.

Another shows this baby being handed

to military personnelover the airport wall.

- The limiting factor isnot the lack of planes.

The limiting factor nowis actually the ability

to get people into the airportprocess and on the planes.

- [Brody] As many as 15,000 Americans

and at least 60,000 Afghansremain as NATO forces work

to extend the August31st evacuation deadline.

- I cannot promise whatthe final outcome will

be or what it will be, that it will be

without risk of loss butas Commander in Chief,

I can assure you

that I will mobilizeevery resource necessary.

- [Brody] The WhiteHouse says 3,000 people

have been evacuatedfrom Kabul on Thursday.

- We've got additionalconsular officers now

at the additional gates

with additional troopshelping the consular officers.

- [Brody] NATO, keeping communications

open with the Taliban,

hoping to preserve some semblance

of safety as the country collapses.

Some military personnel fear the Taliban

will use Afghanistan asa major training ground

for terrorists.

- The minute that Bidendeclared his withdrawal,

the Taliban immediately declared victory

before anything else happened and

that was echoed by Jihadistsall around the world.

- Islamic extremists seen here

on Twitter flaunting a treasure trove

of guns left behind byAfghan and American soldiers.

Insurgents have also takenover 2,000 armored vehicles,

drones, even war planesand Black Hawk helicopters.

- Pentagon officials just confirmed

that baby that was given

to the US Marine has beenreturned to his father,

calling the moment that he took that baby,

an act of great compassion.

Now they had no commenton the second instance,

meantime, the undergroundchurch there says

the Taliban is terrorizing the streets.

Not only are they threatening refugees,

they're going door to door taking women

and children as sex slaves.

One of their biggesttargets now, Christians.

Jenna, back to you.

- All right, Brody Carter, thank you,

and to that point, Talibanalso beating Americans,

Lloyd Austin, the Secretary

of Defense calling it unacceptable,

contradicting what thepresident in fact said.

Well, Edward Graham, grandsonof the late evangelist,

Billy Graham knows firsthandwhat's at stake in Afghanistan.

He served several toursof duty himself there.

CBN's Wendy Griffith spokewith him earlier today.

- Edward Graham is the youngest son

of Franklin Graham and the grandson

of evangelist, Billy Graham.

He's also a graduate of West Point

and served several combattours in Afghanistan

as an army ranger And he joins us now

to talk about the currentevents going on in Afghanistan.

Edward, thanks for being with us.

- Hey, thanks Wendy,appreciate you having me.

- Well, Edward, as a veteran of that war,

what is your reaction toseeing the Taliban back

in charge in Afghanistan?

- As a veteran this hurts, you know,

we spent years therefighting and I was surrounded

by talent, men and women that worked hard

and did an incredible job

with the resources providedbut to see the enemy back,

this is an evil enemy.

I've seen what this enemy has done

to children and women and I've watched

on drone footage foryears as we hunted them,

what they're capable of andto see them back in charge

of this nation is a great and tragic loss

and it's unfortunate thatfailed policies have led

to this point.

- The Biden administrationis blaming the Afghan army

for giving up but some saythat without US support,

they really never had a chance.

What do you think?

- Yeah, personally, I agree with that.

I've been there for years, you know,

I've worked and trained theAfghan Special Operations,

the commandos and (speakingin foreign language)

were very offensive capable.

These are what the GreenBerets and the Rangers trained.

They could go out and actuallyconduct combat operations

against the enemy but theconventional army never could,

they never withstood,

same in Iraq when the US army,

conventional army and Marine Corps going

and trained other forces,

it hasn't stood the testof time, Iraq army fell,

so did the Afghan army andhow we didn't see this coming,

I don't know,

if you ask a E5 Sergeant on the ground,

he would have told you this.

So a lot of bad reports going up.

- And we're talk aboutthe spiritual battle

for Afghanistan, obviouslyGod loves the Afghan people,

How should we be prayingfor that nation right now?

- You know, this is aman-made mess on both sides

with the Taliban, with evil,with failed policies here

on multiple administrations here in the US

but in order to get out ofthis and to get everyone out,

to get our partners out, the church, NGOs,

we're gonna need amiracle and man made this

but it's gonna take God to getus out and that's my prayer.

I was like, Lord, please.

I go to bed at night praying for a way

to get these people out.

They're hurting, they're scared.

I mean, they know what'scoming with the Taliban.

They know exactly what's coming and that's

why they're fleeing.

They've lived it or they know the stories.

- [Wendy] Wow.

- And it's my prayer for peace.

A peace that only Godcan bring about, not man.

Clearly man could notbring peace in Afghanistan,

only God can and that'swhat I'm praying for.

- Amen, amen.

Well, you're with Samaritan's Purse

which has a special ministryto wounded veterans,

tell us how you help themheal from the scars of war.

- Dad started this when I was still

on active duty and it's anunbelievable opportunity.

It's a marriage retreat.

When you look at these wounded soldiers,

many of them lost their identity

when they were told theycould no longer serve

and it's affected their marriage.

They've learned to cope in other ways,

whether it be with alcohol or painkillers

and it's destroyed marriages and families

but we take them up to Alaska

for a week long marriage retreat,

Christ centered and givethem skills and says,

and point them to the gospel and that's

what I love about it andit's not just Alaska,

many ministries take youout maybe deer hunting,

fishing, it's a one-time touch.

We're committed to life with these couples

and we do follow up.

We have aftercare programs with them,

we do reunions with them.

We have small groups, we plug them

into the local a church

with our operation Christmas Child Network

where those churches we partner with,

this ministry is working

and we're watching liveschanged every week.

We take about 10 couples up every week

and the entire summer and

over half those areusually making decisions

for Christ or being baptized,

it's working and I'm proudto be a part of that one.

- Well, I can certainlytell you're passionate

about it as well.

Thanks so much for being with us,

for your insights and for all the ministry

that you and your family are doing.

God bless you.

- Thank you.

- Now, wonderful ministry and amazing work

that Samaritan's Purse does.

Well, to the battle over abortion.

Pro-choice groups arescrambling for legal options

after a federal judge upheld the Texas law

that bans a common abortion method.

A senior Washington correspondent,

Tara Mergener has the story, Tara.

- The most significant challenge

to Roe v. Wade in a generation.

- [Tara] Many believe the implications

of the Mississippi casecould be far reaching,

potentially curving the1973 landmark ruling.

- Abortion opponents hail this

as something a long time coming.

- [Tara] While many applaudthe judge's decision,

Abby Johnson points out itwill not stop abortions.

- The fact that thiswas upheld does not mean

that second trimesterabortions cannot move

forward in the state of Texas.

They absolutely can.

They just can't be donethrough a DNE abortion.

- [Tara] Pro-choice advocatesargue the law known as SB8,

outlaws often the safestmethods of abortion

during this phase of pregnancy

and insist fetuses cannotfeel pain at this point.

- It is still possibleand legal to get abortion

in Texas and you know, I'm very concerned

because these laws are so intended

to sow disinformation andchaos before we have time to,

you know, rely on some of our backstops

in our protests essentiallyto stop these horrible bans.

- [Tara] Meanwhile, Johnson says,

she's encouraged the courtsas in the Mississippi case,

are starting to focus lesson the procedure itself

and more on the life at stake.

- One of the reasons thatthat case is so powerful

and even more powerful than

like a dismemberment abortion case is

because it's not looking ata type of abortion procedure.

It's not looking at theabortion itself at all.

It's looking at the pre-born human being

which is what we need to befocusing on in the first place.

- As for the Texas law, it is one

of many abortion restrictionsenacted in recent years

by Republican controlledstate legislatures

but this one has never been enforced due

to legal challenges.

In Washington, I'm TaraMergener, CBN News.

- Thank you, Tara.

Well, grim news on the COVID-19 front

as the pandemic continuesto worsen every day

since the month of June.

The number of daily deathsstill soaring higher,

more than 900 just yesterday alone

and now more than 93,000Americans are hospitalized.

The highest number since January.

Officials in Alabama reportICU beds completely full

and in Mississippi seeing an uptick

in children beingadmitted to the hospital.

Well, Norm Oliver isthe health commissioner

for the state of Virginiaand he joins us now.

Hi Norm, thank you for coming on.

So this Delta variant,

it seems to be a lot more serious

than other strains we've seen so far.

- Yes, that's certainly true.

It's primarily serious becauseof how quickly it spreads.

The Delta Variant ismuch more transmissible

than the prior variantsof the COVID-19 virus.

It's about twice as infectiousas the Alpha Variant,

the first one that we had todeal with and because of that,

you've been seeing a lot more cases of it.

It's also the case that the,

those of us who've been vaccinated,

we found that the vaccines are slightly

less effective against the Delta Variant.

They're still very effective.

They keep you from being hospitalized,

having serious illness or death

but there are more breakthrough mild cases

among the vaccinated.

So yes, it's a very serious thing.

- Well, to your point,

three senators recently tested positive

for COVID 19, even fully vaccinated,

their cases of courseadd to a very long list,

you know, they're Olympic athletes,

of course the general public too,

a lot of people who'vebeen vaccinated coming down

with COVID.

What is going on here?

And does this show the, you know,

the lack of strength, Iguess, to these vaccines?

- A really good question.

So the, what we're seeingis breakthrough cases,

no vaccine is a 100% effective.

There's no such thing asan ironclad protection

in that sense.

When the vaccines first came out,

you'll recall that thePfizer and Moderna vaccines

were considered 95% effectiveagainst the Coronavirus.

That meant that there were still about 5%

of people who got vaccinatedwho were getting COVID-19,

although it was very mildor even asymptomatic cases.

So we're seeing that still,but with the Delta Variant,

we're seeing an increase in the number

of breakthrough cases.

So the vaccines are about 85% effective.

There's more breakthrough on those

who of us who have been vaccinated.

Again, people who are gettingthose breakthrough cases

are getting mild cases.

So the takeaway here is

that getting vaccinatedprotects you a 100%

from really seriousillness, hospitalization

or death and for those reasons,

it's really importantthat you get vaccinated.

- What about natural immunity?

That doesn't seem tobe something that a lot

of the medical field is talking about,

but Dr. Martin Makary

with Johns Hopkins MedicalSchool says we should

be categorizing peopleby not by vaccinated

and unvaccinated but insteadby immune and non-immune,

what do you think about?

- The vaccination we can track,

we're not really trackingthe antibody status

of everyone who's out there in the US.

It is true that if you get the disease,

you will develop antibodies,

but it's not known howlong those antibodies last,

just as the vaccine we'reseeing has a situation

where after about eightmonths, the antibody level

that you have in yourbody declines slightly

and we're talking nowabout the possibility

of boosters to help you get that back up

to a more protective level, that,

the same thing happens withso-called natural immunity

and also, the other thingyou have to realize is

that if there is other variants,like the Delta Variant,

it may be still a little more infectious

for you if you havedeveloped antibodies say

to the Alpha Variantor some other variant.

- All right, Virginia HealthCommissioner, Norm Oliver.

Good to see you.

Thank you, sir.

- Thank you.

- Coming up.

No vaccine, no service?

Our next guest says some hospitals

are now deprioritizing the unvaccinated.

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- Welcome back,

hospitalize, hospitals, excuse me,

deprioritizing patientsbased on vaccinations.

Roger Severino whoserved in the Department

of Health and Human Services

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In a tweet, he says it, quote,

called it, hospitals actuallygiving lower priority

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Roger, welcome.

It's great to have youon the show this evening.

So where is thisde-prioritization happening?

- Sure.

It comes to the question of what's known

as crisis standards of care,(Indistinct) resources.

So when we start running out of beds,

some very tough decisions have to be made.

However, you have to take each patient

as an individual before youmake those tough choices

but what we've seen, atleast in one hospital

in Texas is that they wantto deprioritize people based

on their vaccination status and

that's very dangerous territory.

We've seen already, when I was head

of the office (indistinct) at HHS,

there was this some sort ofdeprioritization exclusion

based on disabilities andthat's discriminatory,

you have to take anindividual as they are,

you can't use blunt instruments and say,

you have this one condition,

you're out, without makingan individualized assessment

and with a vaccination status,

being unvaccinated is not a disease

and that's something thatis highly inappropriate

for medical doctors whotake into account and use

that as a single answer, one size fits all

and I'm very afraid

that we're gonna have a two-tier society

where (indistinct) you'revaccinated, (indistinct)

or unvaccinated, again, beingunvaccinated is not a disease,

you get excluded.

That's not where we wanna be.

- Yeah, two types ofcitizens as you mention.

Well, Roger, you now serve

with the Ethics and Public Policy Center,

that said, is this a slipperyslope in medical ethics?

- Sure, you have to ask where does it end?

The point of medicine is to heal people,

to cure people, not to castjudgment and blame victims,

we really wanna separate that,

the broader policy questionsabout vaccines and efficacy,

et cetera, which thevaccines have been great

at saving tons of lives-

- [Jenna] What?

- But when you have a patientwho wants a transplant

which is also where we'reseeing discrimination

against unvaccinated persons and saying,

you're not worthy becausewe're judging you based

on decisions, that's turninginto a ethical question

that those doctors shouldnot be in a position to make.

Again, we saw this withpeople with disabilities,

(indistinct) say that some (indistinct)

in the image and likenessof God are all equal

and we should all have thisequal access to medical care.

Whether it's a transplant,whether it's crisis centers

of care, where there's even access

to your primary care(indistinct) physicians,

(Indistinct), you getno treatment, period.

That's just wrong.

- Roger, what can be doneto protect patient's rights?

You know, regardless of whether

or not they've been vaccinated?

- Hmm, well, this is new territory.

So I come from a civil rights background

and there's all sorts

of protected classes that are traditional.

Whether somebody is vaccinatedor unvaccinated, this is new.

We haven't seen thisas a class very often.

We have seen folks make a request

for religious accommodations to vaccines

and the COVID vaccines,unfortunately were derived

with aborted fetal celllines from abortions

from decades ago, manypeople of good faith object

to ingesting those vaccines

that it's not justifiedin the circumstances.

If they seek religious accommodation,

there are protections under law.

If it's title seven, ifyour employer is trying

to force it on you and youhave a religious objection,

you could make that objection

and then there's abalancing test that goes on.

If you're a federal government employee,

the Religious Freedom Restoration Act

also gives some protections.

So if you have a religious objection,

there are some avenues that people should

be aware of and should stand for them.

If you don't stand for yourrights, you will lose them.

- All right, a little bit of ashaky connection this evening

but Roger Severino, weappreciate you coming on.

Thank you.

- Thank you.

- And we'll be right back.

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