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- You have two weeks to turnit around or you're fired.

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- Nowhere to go except up from there.

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- "700 Club," a deadly strike at sea.

Iran is being blamed for a drone attack

on an Israeli-run shipoff the coast of Oman

that killed two men.

"A grave mistake," that'swhat Israel's Prime Minister

is calling this latest attackin the war between wars.

So what happens next?

And what impact will Iran's new president,

so-called Hangman of Tehran,have on negotiations?

Here's Chris Mitchell with more.

- [Chris] Israel saysan Iranian suicide drone

armed with explosives hitthe Mercer Street ship,

killing its Romanian captainand a British security officer.

An Israeli-owned companymanages the vessel.

Then on Sunday, Israeli Prime Minister,

Naftali Bennett warned Iran.

(Naftali speaking in foreign language)

- [Interpreter] So Istate here absolutely,

Iran is the one that carried out

the attack against the ship.

Iran's aggressive behavior is dangerous,

not only for Israel but alsoharms international interests,

the freedom of navigation,and the international trade.

The intelligence evidence for this exists

and we expect the internationalsystem to make it clear

to the Iranian regime thatthey have made a grave mistake.

In any case, we know howto convey the message

to Iran in our own weight.

- [Chris] In a statement,US Secretary of State

Antony Blinken blamed Iranfor the attack and stated,

"We are working with our partnersto consider our next steps

and consulting with governmentsinside the region and beyond

on an appropriate responsewhich will be forthcoming.

While Iran denied responsibility,the attack is the latest

in a series of strikes atsea between Iran and Israel.

In the meantime, EbrahimRaisi will be sworn in

as Iran's new president on Thursday.

Called the Hangman ofTehran for his involvement

in the death of thousands ofIranians, it remains to be seen

what impact he will have onnegotiations over the renewal

of the Iranian nuclear deal.

Talks have been suspendedfor the past six weeks.

US Secretary Blinken says thedelay can't go on forever.

- The ball remains in Iran's court.

And we will see if they'reprepared to make the decisions

necessary to come back into compliance.

We are committed to diplomacy,

but this process cannotgo on indefinitely.

- And many believe the election of Raisi

could mark the beginning ofan even more dangerous period

between Israel and theIslamic Republic of Iran, Pat.

- Chris, tell us about this new president.

Why is he considered so dangerous?

- Well, Pat, he's called the butcher

or the Hangman of Tehran for a reason.

He's responsible for maybe3,000, some believe as many

as 30,000 deaths in 1988of political prisoners.

He also reflects theSupreme Leader's stance

to take a more hard lineapproach against the West.

A big test, Pat, is comingup to see how he's gonna deal

with the nuclear talks.

He's skeptical of those talks,

and he'll have a new negotiating team.

And it remains to be seenhow that's gonna work out.

But Pat, he's also a firm believer

in the return of theMahdi, the Shiite Messiah.

And he says, the Mahdiis the savior of mankind

and he's looking for his appearance.

- Well Chris, Iran isincreasingly using these drones.

What role do these weapons play

in this so-called war between wars?

- Well Pat, they're a big part

of their conventional arsenal.

They have a range sometimesof up to 1,600 kilometers

or about 1,000 miles.

We were in Saudi Arabiain September of 2019.

They call that the PearlHarbor of drone warfare

where they had multiple drones

attacking Saudi Arabia'slargest oil refinery.

We were there, Pat, to see that.

And it's really just onepart of a shadow covert war

between Iran and Israel right now.

As you said, it's calledthe war between wars.

Earlier today, we had a briefingwith General Amos Yadlin.

He's a retired general.

And he said, it's really all dimensions.

It's on all fronts.

It's maritime, it's cyber, terror attacks,

Iranian proxies in Iraq and Syria.

It's all over the Middle East,Yemen, Iraq, Syria, Lebanon.

And so both sides are attackingeach other, but so far,

both sides don't want a full-scale war.

But one day Pat, you know, itcould break out into a war.

And we say this a lot, butit's one reason why we believe

it's very important to be praying

for the peace of Jerusalem.

- Chris, thanks for your insights.

We appreciate it.

Chris Mitchell in Jerusalem.

Well, at long last, senators unveiled

a nearly $1 trillion bipartisaninfrastructure package.

So what's in it and will it pass?

And what is AOC threateningto do with the deal

if it doesn't make the House?

Here's Dale Hurd.

- Pat, the 2,700 page infrastructure bill

cost about $1 trillion and wouldimprove the nation's roads,

bridges, power grid,internet, and drinking water.

But it also includes 66billion for passenger railways

and 21 billion for what'scalled environmental concerns.

But for Majority Leader Chuck Schumer

and progressive Democrats,it's not enough.

Next up is $3.5 trillion ina budget reconciliation bill

that includes massive new social programs.

While moderate Democrats aren't yet ready

to sign off on that bigger bill,

progressives say they're ready

to scuttle the bipartisan deal without it.

- And I said, we willgo on budget resolution.

Let's look at the wholebill, but don't forget,

we've got inflation, we'vegot a $28.6 billion debt.

We have $4 billion a day growing in debt.

All of this should be consideredbefore we just jump in.

- There is not a reconciliationbill in the House.

And if the Senate does notpass the reconciliation bill,

we will uphold our end of the bargain

and not pass the bipartisan bill

until we get all of these investments in.

- This morning, anotherheadache for Democrats.

The moratorium on evictionsexpired over the weekend

meaning millions of Americans

could be forced out of their homes, Pat.

- Dale, how many millions of Americans

may be facing eviction under this problem?

- By one study, as manyas 15 million Americans

are behind on their rentand perhaps between three

and 5 million face immediate eviction.

So courts could be very busy today.

Now on the other sideof that are landlords.

Some of them, as you know,are not wealthy people.

And throughout this process,they've been out a collective,

I think $20 billion,

but they've had to continue paying taxes

and in some cases, mortgages.

Congress has allottedsome rental assistance,

probably enough to cover this problem,

but states have been slow to dole it out.

- Dale, thank you very much.

Well, in other news, President Trump

put three conservativejustices on the Supreme Court.

So conservative votes rule, right?

Well, not exactly.

Jennifer Wishon explains.

- Pat, this latest termof the court has taught us

that not all conservativesare created equally.

Instead of seeing this six-three split

between conservative and liberal justices,

some of the courts biggest decisions

have shown more of athree-three-three split.

- I think the most conservativemembers are Justice Thomas

and probably next Justice Gorsuch

and close by is probablyJustice Samuel Alito.

- [Jennifer] In the middle,

making up a more centrist coalition,

Chief Justice JohnRoberts, Brett Kavanaugh,

and the newest justice, Amy Coney Barrett.

- We learned thatJustice Amy Coney Barrett

was not the judicial torpedothat a lot of Democrats

believed she was going tobe on things like Obamacare.

- [Jennifer] In that case led

by the more centrist conservatives,

the court chose consensus

over striking at the heart of the matter.

Likewise in Fulton versusCity of Philadelphia,

the court ruled unanimouslythat the city was discriminating

against a Catholic fostercare agency, but stopped short

of addressing the largerissue of religious liberty.

That led a frustratedJustice Alito to write,

this decision might as well be written

on the dissolving papersold in magic shops.

- Their job is to decidewhatever case is before them

and not create these cockamamie schemes

of what will happen in a decade.

- [Jennifer] A recent Gallup poll

shows 49% of Americans approve of the job

the Supreme Court is doing.

Republicans and Democratsview it similarly,

revealing Americans are both pleased

and frustrated with its rulings.

Finding that equilibrium of public opinion

is what some observers saydrives the middle of the court

to issue narrow opinions

and decline some controversial issues.

Roberts, Kavanaugh, and Barrett

joined the three liberal justicesto refuse hearing the case

of Barronelle Stutzman,a Washington florist

forced to use her art tocelebrate a same-sex marriage.

Meanwhile, Gorsuch joinedthe three centrists to block

hearing a transgenderbathroom case out of Virginia.

- The court's conservatives,at least three or four of them,

do not want to get boggeddown in the transgender issue.

I think they want to stay away from it.

- [Jennifer] Still, next term,

the court will tackleseveral hot button issues

like New York's handgunlaw and an abortion case

out of Mississippi that strikesat the heart of Roe v. Wade.

- The fact that they haverelegated this decision

to one question on whether ornot pre-viability restrictions

are constitutional indicatesto us that they are going

directly to the heart of the matter

and will make a determination

as to whether or not Roe was good law.

- [Jennifer] So howwill this new alignment

on the court play out?

Blackman has a prediction.

- I don't think there are enough judges

with the backbone to do it.

- And Pat, this case out of Mississippi

is exactly what pro-lifesupporters have been waiting for

as a vehicle in hopesthat the court will use it

to overturn a constitutional right

to abortion in this country.

- Jennifer, you know, yearsago, when that ruling came down,

it was so palpable that thepolice power of the states

under the Constitutioncontrols about abortion.

That should not haveever been federalized.

Roe versus Wade wascalled Blackmun's Abortion

and that it was based on the material

from Planned Parenthood.

So what do you think the moderatesare trying to accomplish?

It looks like a coupleof 'em, Kagan for example

was Dean of the Harvard Law School.

What do you think?

- Yeah, well, you know, Pat,it looks like they're looking

at the long game here.

They're taking this incrementalapproach, baby steps

toward where they thinkthe law ought to be.

But in the meantime youhave American suffering.

I mean, I pointed out BarronelleStutzman in the story,

Jack Phillips the cakemaker in Colorado

that we've reported on a lot.

You know, these people are having

their constitutionalrights infringed upon,

spending years of their life,

draining their savingsaccount defending themselves

while the court is taking this approach.

And so some of the people I've talked to

have called it an arrogant approach.

Them saying that basicallythey have more power

than they think they do, andthat they need to go ahead

and get this done because,

Look, Pat, the Constitutionisn't changing.

It hasn't changed.

It was written 200 years ago.

And so they need to just take the case

that's in front of them, applythe Constitution and move on

instead of worrying about public opinion.

- Jennifer, I talked to alegal scholar and I said,

"What's wrong with Roberts?

He's supposed to be a conservative."

And he said, "Two words, Chevy Chase.

The Chevy Chase Club has gotten to him,

and he's trying to please them."

Did you think that's maybethe case or do you know?

- Well, it could be.

I mean, I think we certainlysaw him change a bit

when he was Justice Roberts

and then when he becameChief Justice Roberts.

And we see, Pat, I mean,

you look at the Fulton versusCity of Philadelphia case.

It looks like he was really trying

to build consensus around this case.

That was a unanimous decision,

but it only applied tothat narrow circumstance

in the City of Philadelphia where

this Catholic foster agency wasbeing discriminated against.

And so that's why we sawJustice Alito being frustrated,

saying, look, this is notworth the paper it's written on

because it doesn'taddress the bigger issue

of religious liberty, andyou could go down the line

at other cases like that.

Chief Justice Roberts, by the way,

was the person who wrote that opinion.

And so we've also seen himstaunchly defend Obamacare,

and a lot of people can't figure that out.

And so I think you maybe right about that.

- Well, Jennifer, I appreciate it

and we'll keep watching and praying.

I mean, we've got a presidentwho's nominated a number

of conservatives to the Supreme Court.

And yet at the same time,

they don't seem to wantto take a bold stand.

And the biggest time when they passed

was in ruling on the last election.

They refused to even consider it.

They said that the plaintiffs,

although they representedabout 30 different states,

they didn't have quote, "standing"

and therefore the justiceswouldn't consider it.

So you just say, you know,

has anybody got some intestinal fortitude?

Well, let's go to Terry, now, Terry?

- Well, up next, confrontingsex offenders and revelers

on spring break, just anordinary day in "Watters World."

Fox News host Jesse Watterstalks about his tell-all book.

How did he become a conservative?

And why did he almost getfired by Bill O'Reilly?

Find out, that's all coming up.

Plus, detox and a death wish.

This addict wanted to end it all.

Who was the stranger he called for help,

and how did she save his life?

Stay tuned to see for yourself.

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- Holding a book that isthe number one bestseller

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The back of it says, thisis the back of his book,

Jesse Watters is even more stupid

than I originally gave him credit for.

I mean, surprisingly ignorant.

Well, I kinda knew, butstill, Soledad O'Brien

And another one says, Jesse Watters

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Whoever wrote a book like that

and put that stuff on the back cover?

Well, he's loved by the rightand he's loathed by the left.

Jesse Watters is a Fox News superstar

and the author of a brandnew book all about himself.

So where did this guy come from

and why is he such a lightning rod?

Jenna Browder caught up with him

for this exclusive interviewabout this new book,

"How I Saved the World."

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- He's smart, he's funnyand politically savvy.

And now Fox News's JesseWatters is taking that talent

to the pages of a new book,"How I Saved the World."

- My wife picked the title, andwe were going back and forth

and she came up with itso I have to give my wife

full credit, which Ithink you would understand

is very important in a relationship.

- Oh, absolutely.

Well, I noticed youalso dedicated it to her

and something about timing is everything.

- It was important to dedicate it to her

for so many reasons, but timingis everything in this life.

And when you get the timingright, great things can happen.

- [Jenna] And he got thetiming right at Fox News, too

although Jesse didn't start at the top.

In fact, it all began in the basement.

- I believe I was making minimum wage,

and my job consisted of being handed tapes

and then taking a Sharpieand then writing the label

of the footage on the tape,

closing it up, and giving it to someone.

It was arts and crafts, Jenna.

And that's what I did.

And there was nowhere togo except up from there.

- [Jenna] And up he went,

landing a production assistant role

on "The O'Reilly Factor."

He didn't stay behind thecamera for long, though.

- My producer said, "Bill,this is Jesse Watters.

You just hired him to be yournew production assistant."

And he said, "Okay, go, what do you got?"

And I pitched and I bombed,

and I was pulled into my producer's office

later that afternoon and my producer said,

"Jesse, Bill does not thinkyou're articulate enough

to work in television.

You have two weeks to turnit around or you're fired."

So I stared into the abyss.

I turned it around anda couple months later,

I pitched a story abouta bad judge in Alabama

who had given a softsentence to a sex offender.

And Bill hears that and hesays, "All right, Watters,

you're gonna go down to Alabamaand confront the judge."

- In Back of the Book segmenttonight, Watters' World

as you surely know.

- [Jenna] That eventually led

to his Watters' Worldsegments and now show.

- They also did somehard hitting reporting

on Biden's favorite Gatorade flavor.

- And of course "The Five."

Jesse writes about it all,

including how he became a conservative.

What was appealing to youabout the conservative message?

- I was in college andI was in my dorm room

watching TV late at night.

And I saw C-SPAN and you know,you get all these senators

and congressmen up there

and they're pontificating about some bill.

And I just started listening,as a history major,

the Republican senators sounded more

like they had a better grasp

of what the founders had intended,

which was limited government

and personal freedom and responsibility.

And that kind of clicked with me.

And after that, I startedlistening to Limbaugh

in my dorm room, which I don't think

anybody else did in college.

- [Jenna] Regarding PresidentTrump and a possible 2024 run.

- He's gonna play a bigrole in 2022 in the midterms

fundraising and campaigning.

And after that, he's gonnaget the lay of the land

and he's gonna make anassessment after those midterms,

am I gonna take another shot?

He'll look at Biden,he'll look at the economy.

He'll look at inflationand the border and see,

is there an opening forme to get back and run?

- If not him, is theresomeone who you think,

who you personally think wouldbe a really strong candidate?

- DeSantis is making a bigplay for me personally.

I've seen his leadership down in Florida.

He gets it, he's tough.

He doesn't bow to the press,and he's unapologetic.

And that's the kind ofleadership Republicans respond to

is kind of an aggressive leaderwho makes quick decisions

but decisions based on the facts.

And that's the kind ofguy I see in DeSantis.

- [Jenna] Jesse knows aboutbeing attacked himself.

Take a look at the back of the book.

"The Washington Post,"

Jesse Watters isofficially out of control.

"The Daily Show," "A smug, unfunny goon."

And Jessie's mom, "Where is Dana Perino?

She is desperately needed."

All jabs Jesse seems to relish.

- This is a hilarious book.

This has all thesestories of me being sent

to survival camps by my liberal parents.

These are stories about having dinners

at the White House with President Trump

and all these crazy things that happened,

inside stories about FoxNews and jumping out of cars

and confronting villains

and interviewing springbreakers on the beach.

- And it'll make you think.

And we should mention,Jesse has twin daughters

and he and his wifejust welcomed Jesse Jr.

He says they plann tohave Jesse Jr. baptized

in a New York City church.

In Washington, Jenna Browder, CBN News.

- Well, I congratulate Jesse.

He is a lot of fun.

The big thing is, heseems to be enjoying life.

And I think that's what peoplewant more than anything else.

Well, Jesse Watters' newbook is called quote,

"How I Saved the World,"

and you can find itwherever books are sold.

And it has become a "New York Times"

number one bestseller already,

and it's got more to come, Terry?

- Up next, he wasted yearsof his life on drugs.

How did a voice on TV help set him free?

And after getting clean,

why did this addict return to the streets?

He's gonna tell ushimself, that's coming up.

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Homeless and hooked on heroin.

Logan Lambert was livingon the mean streets

of the City of Baltimore.

Five stints in rehaband one in state prison

couldn't help him come clean.

So how did a voice on this TV show

help him kick his addiction for good?

Take a look.

- I was just depressed, I was hopeless,

and I get into thisrelationship with this girl

and we're together for a while.

- [Reporter] LoganLambert had just graduated

from high school in 2010 when he lost

what he believed was the love of his life.

- We break up and I was devastated.

You know, I was wantingto die, I was suicidal.

- [Reporter] It wasn't the first time

Logan felt the sting of rejection.

It had started when he was 10,

and his single mom started drinking

and spending more time with her friends.

Before that she was a doting mom

who even took her kids to church.

- Just wanting that loving relationship

that I had when I was younger with her.

I remember, you know, as akid, you know, upset, and hurt.

My mom's hanging withthe neighbors drinking

and wanting to spend timewith her and things like that.

So, Logan sought other friendships

that landed him constantly in trouble.

Soon he started smokingweed and skipping school.

- Being around some other kids, accepted,

wanting to be cool, wanting to fit in.

Like, hey, I got some friends now.

- [Reporter] In highschool, he met the girl

who made him feel loved.

Yet after they broke up,things drastically changed.

- I really went into a dark place

and really started tofill that void with drugs.

I hated life.

I felt absolutely worthless,that I've ruined life.

I didn't want to live, I was so depressed.

- [Reporter] Before long,

Logan was addicted topain killers and heroin.

Over the next four yearshe drifted aimlessly,

living on the streets of Baltimore.

In that time, he triedfive different rehabs.

Still, he always went back to drugs.

- Even though I got offdrugs, I still was depressed.

I still was, you know, empty.

I still didn't feel any hope.

- [Reporter] Then in2014, Logan was arrested

and sentenced to 14 months in jail

for attempting to rob a gas station.

- Now I gotta face the consequences.

I mean, this isn't something

you can just brush underthe rug and forget about it.

You know, this isserious, and I was scared.

Around that time his mom, Barbara,

turned her life over to God.

She prayed often for her son,and even sent him letters

and a Bible while he was in jail.

- I can just rememberlying awake at night,

praying so deep, "God,please keep my baby safe."

- [Reporter] Logan, however,

was only interested in one thing.

- I tried to do everything that I could.

I tried to live as best as I could.

But in my mind, I always thought, man,

I can't wait to get out of here

'cause I'm gonna get high, you know?

- [Reporter] Which is exactly what he did

a few months after his releasefrom jail in July of 2015.

Caught violating hisparole, Logan was sent

to a year-long recovery program.

There he met a fellow addict, Donna.

After completing the program,they moved in together

and it wasn't long beforethey were shooting heroin.

Then Donna got pregnant.

- My prayers at that timefor Donna and Logan was,

"Lord, just make yourselfknown to them to the fullest.

Wake 'em up, shake 'em, Lord,

and break the desiresof the drug addiction."

- [Reporter] Despite Donna's drug use,

their daughter was bornhealthy in October 2017.

However, social workersplanned to take the child away

until they struck a dealthat allowed Logan, Donna,

and the baby to live withBarbara under her supervision.

- She would witness to us all those times

and was praying for us andGod started to really draw me.

- [Reporter] With detox treatment,

Logan had been weaned offof heroin by February 2018.

However, without the drugs,his depression returned.

A week later he was again having thoughts

of taking his life.

Finally, Logan cried out to God.

- I just said, "Jesus,if you're real, show me.

Just show me."

- [Reporter] Just then,Logan heard a voice

coming from the TV in another room.

"The 700 Club" was on, and someone said,

"If you need prayer, dialthis number" so he did.

- A lady answers the phone.

I said, "I'm hopeless, I'mdepressed, I'm empty, I'm broken.

My daughter's downstairs.

I want to die.

I just want to know if Jesus is real.

Would you please pray for me."

I don't remember what she prayed at all,

but when I hung the phone up,

God melted me to my bedroom floor.

And all I'm saying is, "God, forgive me.

Forgive me for not believing.

Forgive me for not believing.

You're real, you're real, you're real."

I met Jesus Christ inmy bedroom that morning

and everything changed.

You know, that pain, thatbrokenness, that hopelessness,

that void that I was tryingto fill my whole entire life,

it was filled.

- [Reporter] Not long after that,

Donna also got clean andsurrendered her life to Jesus.

Then on March 22, 2018she and Logan married.

- God did answer that prayerthat I prayed with them

to become the Christian parents,

and now they could raise their children

knowing Jesus as well.

- I've never had one desireat all to ever get high.

The suicidal thoughts, thedepression, the burden,

the brokenness, it was gone.

It was like God liberated mysoul and lifted it off of me,

and I mean, I felt free.

- [Reporter] Today,Logan is fully employed

and raising a happy family.

A few times a week he's backon the streets of Baltimore.

However, these days, he'snot looking for drugs.

He and Donna are sharing theunconditional love they found

in a relationship with Jesus.

- No matter how bound up in sin you are,

no matter if you're suicidal,empty, depressed, broken,

Jesus Christ can set you free.

We want to give peoplehope that, hey, look,

Jesus Christ is real, He's alive.

He saved us and He can save them as well.

- You know, it's so simple,Jesus Christ is real.

And it doesn't matter how broken you are.

It doesn't matter whatyou've gone through.

It doesn't matter how suicidal you are.

It doesn't matter how deeplyaddicted you are to drugs

or any other addiction.

God Almighty will set you free

because He's came toset the captives free.

And he said, the Spiritof the Lord is upon me

because He has anointed me.

And one of the things that He's come to do

is to rescue those who arebound and to set them free.

Now, some of you are watching me right now

and you've been bound up.

You know, you hate your life.

You don't feel loved.

You don't feel that anybodyreally cares about you,

and you've made a lot of mistakes.

Then you just come beforethe Lord and you say,

I've made so many mistakes.

And the thing that Hewants you to do is to say,

well God, I'm sorry, andI ask You to forgive me.

And if you will come to theLord with a repentant heart,

a broken and a contritespirit thou wilt not despise.

And if you come to Him and say, God,

I just can't make it anymore,

He will hear an answer andgive you a brand new life.

Now, if you want to know Him,

I want you to do something real simple.

Just don't go anywhere.

Just right now, don't touch the dial.

Just wait a minute.

I want you to pray with me.

And if you want peace, if you want joy,

if you want forgiveness,

I want you to pray with me right now.

These words, you pray alongwith me, if you would.

Lord Jesus, that's right, Lord Jesus,

I'm a sinner, and Ifeel hopeless right now.

And I've made so many mistakes,

and I've been hurt in my life.

You know what's been done to me

and You know what I've done to others

and You know what I've done to myself.

But right now, Lord, I knowthat You died for sinners

and You died for me.

And I ask You, Jesus,come now into my heart.

Live Your life in meand from this moment on,

I will live for You and I will serve You.

Thank you.

Now, if you prayed that prayer with me,

I want to pray for you right now.

Just be still and just pray.

Father, in Jesus' name, foreveryone who prayed that prayer,

may the anointing of theHoly Spirit come upon them.

May all the shackles be broken.

May Satanic bondage bebroken, and may you be free

in Jesus' name and filled with His power.

Touch 'em, amen and amen.

Now, if you prayed with me, Iwant you give you something.

Now, there's no money.

I'm not talking about any money

so don't even think about it.

I want to give you somethingcalled "A New Day."

And in the "New Day" is a CD

you can play on your CD player.

And there's a little bookletof scriptures right here.

It's called "A New Day,"and I'll give this to you,

but I want you to call in and say,

look, I just prayed with that guy on TV.

I prayed with Pat, and I havegiven my heart to the Lord.

And if you will do that, God Almighty,

He's going to reach in right now

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Pick up the phone, 1-800-700-7000, okay.

Call in right now.

Somebody's here who loves you, Terry.

- Well, you just saw a powerful testimony

of a praying mother and coming up,

another mother shares thekeys to raising godly sons.

How do you motivate

and not manipulate theyoung men in your life?

Find out when author RhondaStoppe joins us live.

That's just ahead.(warm instrumental music)

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There's a battle raging

for the hearts and minds of boys today.

This generation is facingpressures like never before.

So how can moms raise theirboys to become godly men?

Take a look.

- [Reporter] Rhonda Stoppeis an author, speaker,

and mother of four who is dedicated

to helping women livelife with no regrets.

With over 30 years ofexperience as a mom, mentor,

and pastor's wife, sheunderstands the challenge

of raising sons in today's culture.

In her audiobook, "MomsRaising Sons to be Men,"

Rhonda shows you howto set clear boundaries

and create an environment

that helps your boys growinto spiritually strong men.

- Joining us now viaSkype is Rhonda Stoppe.

Rhonda, great to have you with us.

- Good morning.

- You are the mom of twosongs and two daughters.

So what's the difference

between parenting boys versus girls.

- (laughs) Right?

How much time do we have?

When I had my daughters,it wasn't a mystery to me

that they were gonna grow up and be women.

But I remember holding my son and knowing,

this little guy is gonnagrow up and be a man.

Our oldest son, Tonydidn't come to our family

until he was 15 years old.

He was in one of our youth groups

when we had planted achurch in Austin, Texas,

we're in California now,but looking into their faces

and knowing I want them to grow up

to be a godly man is intimidating.

And I knew I wasn't the momthat I hoped I would be.

In fact, my family rode theemotional roller coasters.

My motive for raisinggodly sons and daughters

became more about what Ididn't want them to become

rather than what I did wantto guide their hearts toward.

So I looked for mentors.

I knew I needed help.

I needed someone to teachme what they learned.

The Bible, Titus 2 says olderwomen teach the younger.

That's the journeymenand apprentice program

that God provides for us.

- What are some of thechallenges to doing that, Rhonda?

What are some of the things

that we traditionally make mistakes in,

especially in the world today?

- I think the thing thatwe have to be aware of is,

there is a real enemy that wants to kill,

steal and destroy the futures,the lives of our children.

And for sons there's, you know,

let me go to the skateboard park

and I'm gonna hang out with my friends.

I remember my youngest son asking that.

It's like, no, that's whereyou're gonna get meth.

You're not gonna go do that.

Video games is a hugedistraction for young men.

There is a God-given zeal in young men

to conquer, to accomplish.

You think of David, He was 17 years old

when he was like, about Goliath, like,

I'll fight him, I'll fight him right now.

And that zeal can be taken away virtually

when our sons just fillthat void with video games.

And I'm not saying no video games.

That's between you and the Lord.

But I am saying that in themany years that my husband and I

have been in ministry,there's a lot of young men

who get married, grow up,

and expect to not playvideo games all the time

when they're with theirfamilies and they do.

And pornography is aterrible destructive source

that is stealing the heartsand minds of our young men.

- Well, you stress the need

to motivate rather than manipulate.

How do you do that?

- (laughs) You know, here'sthe interesting thing.

I always tell moms, the first 10 years

of your little boy's life,love the snot out of him.

Mommy loves you, mommyloves you, mommy loves you.

But when they hit about adolescent age,

they start pushing mama away.

And if we try to manipulatethem to do the things

that we want them to do, thatwill breed in them rebellion.

That will cause themto want to push us away

instead of motivating them.

I know the man you want to be.

I know the man you want to become

I think of a story, my son, Brandon.

He is a musician, and aphenomenal musician growing up.

And when he was saying,

"Why can't I listen to this secular music

or that secular music?"

And I remember telling him,

"We see the man God's calling you to be.

We see the music He's put inyour heart to play for Him.

And if the Bible says whata man thinks in his heart

so is he, if we let youfeast only on secular music,

that will be the music that you write.

So until you're mature enoughto understand this vision,

this hope that God is puttingin your heart and guard it,

we're gonna come alongside of you

and we're gonna help you do that."

And Brandon later, he's33 years old now, he said,

"I wanted to argue withyou on that point,"

but I trained his brain.

That's a section in "Moms Raising Sons"

to think through the process,

the why of what we door don't want them to do

rather than just manipulating them.

- You list seven principlesfor raising godly sons.

Could you just give us the top two?

- Well, the first one is,

when you teach your sonto respect your authority,

they will know how torespect God's authority.

The second one, have a clearidea of the kind of man

God calls your son to be.

And then the third one is,

guide your son toward independence.

I feel that our sonsthink, especially as moms,

that we're trying to control them.

In fact, there's a sectionin "Moms Raising Sons"

called Control Freaks Raise Freaks.

The more they push us away,

the more we try to hold on tighter.

And for our sons, there'sno real coming of man ritual

in our culture, exceptdon't be a momma's boy.

So when our little adolescentson starts pushing us away,

we have to make a decisionthat we're gonna hand them

their manhood rather thanmake them fight us for it.

- Well, your sons are now adults.

Has your approach to parentingchanged as they've aged?

- My prayers have changed.

You know, there's a fun story.

Tony is a fighter pilot in the Air Force.

He's a Lieutenant Colonel.

He grew up and went to A&M University

and became a fighter pilot.

And I remember talking tohim when he moved in with us

about girls and abouthis hopes and his dreams.

And you know, men don't listen eye to eye

as much as they do shoulder to shoulder.

So when they're little,you look in their face,

you tell them what you want them to know.

But when Tony was 15, hewas working on a Jeep.

I'd go sit out in theJeep and just talk to him

about all the things thathe wanted to talk about.

And he listened.

And the same way with my son, Brandon.

When they're younger, they'lllisten in a different way,

but when they're mature men,

we have to teach them howto listen side by side,

shoulder to shoulder,

and we're training them for their spouse.

There's a story in "Moms Raising Sons"

that talks about Brandon,and he would wink at me

from the stage whenever he was singing

at a Christmas programat school or whatever.

Years later, a woman who was reading

"Moms Raising Sons to be Men"

was sitting behind his wife, Jessie,

when he was in Nashville andBrandon was on stage playing.

And the wife, the friend ofmine sent this picture of Jesse

with Brandon on stage andshe said he winks at her now.

And I love that story

'cause that's what we're raising them for.

- Well, I just want allof our viewers to know

that if you'd like more great advice,

Rhonda Stoppe has an audiobook.

It's called "Moms Raising Sons to be Men,"

and it's available throughaudio on amazon.com.

She also has a free sampleavailable on her website.

So take a visit to noregretswoman.com.

Rhonda, thanks so muchfor being with us today.

Great to visit with you.

- Thanks, I appreciate it.

- Well, still ahead, we'vegot time for your questions

and some honest answers.

Teresa writes, my motherholds Jesus responsible

for the death of my sister.

What words can I say to my mother

to help her heal theanimosity toward Jesus?

Pat tackles that and more right after this

so don't go away.(warm instrumental music)

- Well, Krishna was behind on her bills.

Krishna also owed four months of rent,

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and she lost her will to survive.

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Take a look.

- [Reporter] Krishna lost her job

due to COVID-19 lockdowns in India.

As a single parent,

it was hard for her totake care of her family,

and she incurred a lot of debt.

(Krishna speaking in foreign language)

- [Interpreter] I owed mylandlord four months rent,

and I have to take care ofelectric bill and food expenses.

Nobody wanted to help us.

I had lost all my hope to survive.

- [Reporter] Krishna foundhope when she was offered a job

in an Operation Blessingmask making center.

- [Interpreter] I am very happy

that I found some help to earn money.

Now I can take care of my children.

- [Reporter] We sawhow hard Krishna worked

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gave her her own sewing machine.

- [Interpreter] Now I can work faster

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It has helped me to increase my income.

I have already paid back all the debts

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Today, I am confident

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May God bless those who hadgifted the sewing machine.

- You say, I didn't know I'dgone to India, I wasn't there.

Yes, you were because you helped us,

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How wonderful to give life and hope

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It's just a joy, you know,

it's more blessed to give thanto receive, and it really is.

I mean, to see the joy thatcomes about in somebody's faith,

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All she needed was a sewing machine

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It's $20 a month.

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- Well, I want you to knowhow much Angie loved this.

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- Amen, okay, some questions.- Yes, there you go.

Okay, it's time for your questionsand Pat's honest answers.

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Okay Pat, this first onecomes from Kris who says,

I've recently been workingharder on my relationship

with God and my anxietyhas been getting worse

the more I read the Bible.

I worry that my sins may be unforgivable,

and it keeps me up at night.

What do you think, Pat?

- Well, the Bible says it isn't God's will

that any should perishbut that all should come

to the knowledge of the truth.

And God is a gracious, forgiving God.

And the Bible says, bless the Lord,

O my soul and all that is within me.

Bless His holy name whoforgives all their sins

and heals all their diseases.

God will forgive you ofeverything you've done.

And He wants to blessyou because He wants you

to be part of His family.

And I don't know what to say

except that you must trust the word.

The word is there for you to believe it.

And you believe it, all right?

- This is Teresa who says Pat,

recently I was vacationing with my parents

and found out that my motherholds Jesus responsible

for the death of her daughter,my sister, back in 2012.

My mother said, "I don't love Him,

He took my daughter from me."

What words can I say to my mother

to help her heal theanimosity toward Jesus?

She's getting up in age,

and I'm very worried about herrelationship with the Lord.

Thank you.

- Well, first of all,she holds a bad concept.

I don't know what it is, but I do believe

that what you need todo is to say, listen,

Jesus Christ died on the cross for you.

He was suffering for you.

He was nailed to the cross, He was beaten.

He had a spear thrust in his side.

What do you mean, He took your daughter?

He gave his entire life for you.

And that's what she needs to understand

is the death of Jesus,where He Himself was beaten.

He had a crown of thornspressed onto his head

and He suffered morethan you could imagine

because He loves you.

And why do you think Hewould take somebody else away

from you when He died to save you?

And I don't know what,

if your mother doesn't believe the Bible

it's gonna be a problem,but if she doesn't,

she's condemning herselfto a life of torment.

- Okay, this is Alan whosays, Pat, in the Bible

does the word whirlwindhave a special meaning?

When we've prayed abouta situation we're facing

in which evil people are concerned,

we heard the word whirlwindover our situation.

- Well, you know, whenthe disciples were praying

on the day of Pentecost,

there was the sound of a rushing wind.

The wind is a symbol of the Spirit.

It's wind or breath, it's(speaking in foreign language)

and so there was a fire and wind.

The great prophet was caughtup to Heaven in a whirlwind.

And there's something about that.

It's as if to say, that's the Holy Spirit

and that's the breath of God.

And so what significance, I mean,

if that's what God's saying to you,

take that interpretation.

If you can think of somebody, that's fine,

but do know that one ofthe great prophets of God

was caught up to Heavenin a whirlwind, all right?

- Okay, this is Dulla who says, in Mark 9,

"New King James Version,"

when a man brought hisson to Jesus to be healed,

Jesus said, "If you can believe,

all things are possibleto him who believes."

The father said, "Lord, Ibelieve, help my unbelief."

How can you believe and thennot believe at the same time?

Can you explain that to me?

- Well, there are degrees of belief.

In other words Jesus said,"If you could believe."

Well, he's asking himto believe for a miracle

to raise a dead person orsomebody that had epilepsy,

whatever he had or casting out demons.

And he said, look, I dobelieve and help my unbelief.

And he's saying is, I don'treally have enough faith.

And Jesus talked about having faith

as much as a grain of mustard seed

and we can move mountains.

But Paul said, if you havefaith enough to move mountains,

so this is, there aredegrees of faith, all right.

- Okay, this is Marie who says,why do some Scriptures say

that we're all saved byJesus dying on the cross

and it's a gift from Godand some Scriptures say

that some of us will notenter the Kingdom of Heaven?

I thought we are all saved

but will have differentlevels of rewards in heaven.

I'm confused.

- I'm not as sure exactlywhat you're saying.

I think you're confusingsome things together,

but I do think that thosewho believe in the Lord

are passed from death into life.

If you don't believe in theLord, it's a different matter.

We're not talking aboutuniversal salvation

for everybody in the world.

The Bible never teaches that.

There's some people who doteach it, but it's wrong.

We'll leave you with thisword from the Psalms.

Be strong and courageous,

all you who will putyour hope in the Lord.

We'll see you tomorrow, and God bless you.

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