(triumphant music)

- [Announcer] The following program

is sponsored by CBN.

- [Wendy] Coming up.

The hijacking of a saint.

- We politicized him and we've made him

into a religious icon.

- [Wendy] What wouldthe real St. Patrick say

about today's northern Ireland?

- Two different things to two different

groups of people.

- [Wendy] Then, a fatal hit and run.

- Shanie had been in an accident.

- [Wendy] The victim, hissix-year-old daughter.

- It's like somethingpunched me in the gut.

- [Wendy] Now, see what happens

then this father comes faceto face with the killer.

- That's all I had.

- [Wendy] On Today's 700 Club.

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- Well, faith and begorrah,

welcome to the St. Patrick's day program

and you're wearing your green?

- Yes, and you've got a nice combination

of different greens.

- This is the only thinkI had around the house

that was green.

- Good for you.

- But it works, okay.

Well, shifting from St. Patrick's Day

to what's going on in our world.

Nearly one in five,that's how many Americans

have gotten at least oneCOVID-19 vaccination.

Well, what about children and teens.

Are there shots for them?

And could expanding vaccinations

to the younger generationbe a tipping point

ending the pandemic?

Our reporter, Lorie Johnson, is with us.

- A COVID-19 vaccine trial on children

ages six months to 12 yearsold is just beginning,

meaning most kids thatage could get vaccinated

as early as 2022.

Trials on teenagers are well under way.

They could get theirsas early as this fall.

Christian psychiatristDaniel Amen tells CBN News

expanding vaccinationsto children and teens

could clearly help in the long wrong.

- Well, I think over time

they could be very important,because even though children

aren't getting dramatically sick,

they still can spread the virus

and the more we get on top of this,

the sooner we'll get away

from a pandemic that has spawned

a mental health pandemicthat is devastating

so many people.

- [Lorie] Religious leaders went public

with their shots at D.C.'sNational Cathedral Tuesday

to encourage the largerfaith community to help

end the pandemic as soon as possible.

- As a believer and a scientist,

I can see the opportunity to use the tools

of science as a chance to be part

of God's plan for healing.

The vaccines have in many ways

for many people been an answer to prayer.

They are safe and effective

beyond what we had a right to expect.

And yet, they will not help people

by sitting on the shelf.

- [Lorie] President Trump,who is now vaccinated

recommends others follow suit.

- [Trump] I would, I would recommend it

and I would recommend to a lot of people

that don't want to get it and a lot

of those people voted for me frankly,

but you know, again we have our freedoms

and we have to live by that and I agree

with that also, but it's a great vaccine,

it's a safe vaccine andit's something that works.

- [Lorie] Meanwhile, overseas,the AstraZeneca vaccine

is suspended in some countries over

the possibility that blood clotting

is linked to the shots.

All this during a surge in cases,

some blame on lifting lock downs too soon.

- They simply took their eye off the ball.

I'm pleading with you, for the sake of

our nations' health, theseshould be warning signs

for all of us.

- Lorie's joining us now

with more on these developments.

Lorie, what about thatAstraZeneca vaccine?

It's not used here in the United States,

is that right?

- That is correct, Pat.

So, people here in the United States

don't need to worry aboutthe AstraZeneca vaccine.

It is not here in the United States.

What's going on withthe AstraZeneca vaccine

is overseas, predominantlyin western Europe.

So, there are threevaccines here in the U.S.

Pfizer, Moderna and Johnson & Johnson,

not AstraZeneca, but toanswer your question,

there have been some concerns

about possible blood clotting,

so out of an abundance of caution,

they have stopped vaccinating people

with the AstraZeneca vaccine.

It doesn't look really frankly that

there is a connection,

but they have to investigate it thoroughly

before starting back up again.

- What about that oneshot, that J&J thing,

is that well available now for people?

- Absolutely, and it's great

because it doesn't have to be frozen.

It only needs to be refrigerated

and the great thingabout Johnson & Johnson

is it's only one shot.

The other two require two shots,

so what health leaders are recommending

is whichever one is offered to you first,

just go ahead and get it

because time is of the essence.

Right now, it's not like a menu

where you can choosewhich vaccine you get.

You'll just be offered one.

- I was told today in our community

that Harris Teeter,which his a grocery store

is giving these J&J vaccinations.

I wonder if you go in among

the carrots and potatoes,then you get your shot.

How does that work?

- That's where I get my vaccines

at the Harris Teeter.

That's our local grocery store.

It's the pharmacy in the grocery store.

- Okay, it's safe to do that.

Now, what do faith leaders need to do

to get people to take this vaccine?

- Well, faith leadersare really stepping up.

For example, FranklinGraham mentioned today

that not only does he think people

should get the vaccine,

he said that if Jesus, ifvaccines were available

in the time of Jesus,

he would talk about them, recommend them

and use them himself and also said

his later father Billy Graham

was a very pro-vaccine person

and would take the COVI-19 vaccine

if he were alive today,

so a lot of faith leaders, Robert Jeffres,

Beth Moore and others arenot only encouraging people

to get the vaccine, butalso encouraging pastors

who have access to a pulpit

to make these recommendationsto their congregations.

- Last question, if you get the shot,

the vaccination, can you then,

are you free to go out and about

and do what you want to do?

- Well, the catch rightthere is you need to wait.

So if you get a vaccination,

20 minutes later, youcan't rip off your mask

and go paint the town red.

You have to wait a little while

for your bodies to build up antibodies.

Two weeks minimum, butmost health professionals

recommend waiting one monthand then you can pretty much

do what you want,although it is recommended

to continue to wear a mask

if you're around unvaccinated people

because it's still unclear whether

you can be a carrier of the virus

and so if you're around people,

who especially are high risk

and haven't been vaccinated,

it might be a nice idea

to continue to wear a mask.

That's why you saw peoplelike Francis Collins

and Anthony Fauci andeven President Biden,

who have been vaccinated longer

than one month ago still wearing masks

around other people.

- Lorie, thanks for that information

and folks, we're almostat the end of this thing,

thank the Lord.

Well, in other news, excuse me,

after six weeks, President Biden

is about to break his silence

and hold a press conference.

How about that?

John Jessup has that story.

- Thanks, Pat.

The President's team says he'llhis first press conference

next Thursday, March 25, afterincreasing media pressure.

Most presidents in recent memory

have held a press room Q&Awithin the first month.

Biden also going one on one

in an exclusive interview

with ABC's George Stephanopoulos.

Responding to the growing crisis

at the border, the President pointed

a finger at the previous administration.

- Well, first of all, there was a surge

the last two years, in 19 and 20,

there was a surge as well.

- This one might be worse.

- Well, it could be, but here's the deal.

We're sending back people.

- Do you have to sayquite clearly don't come?

- Yes, I can say quite clearly don't come

and what we're in theprocess of getting set up,

so don't leave your townor city or community.

- More than 4,200unaccompanied children remain

in custody at the border patrol stations,

with many detained longerthan the 72 hour legal limit.

They're often kept in tent-like structures

where some reportedly aresleeping on the floor.

House minority leader,Kevin McCarthy described

the scene after a congressionalvisit earlier this week.

- When we walked those facilities

and we looked in those rooms

that were packed, these were children

with no parents.

These were children thatwent numbers of days.

Who knows what happened to them?

Who knows who didn't make it?

So, no, don't encourage them to come.

- Attempting to get ahandle on the crisis,

DHS deployed FEMA to the southern border

over the weekend and in Dallas,

that city's convention center

will be used to house upto 3,000 migrant teenagers.

Well, an apparent attackon Asian-Americans

and a shooting spree targetingmultiple massage parlors

in Atlanta last night.

Eight people are dead, six of them Asian,

all but one of them are women.

The first attack took placelate Tuesday afternoon

when a gunman shot five people

at Yong's Asian Massage Parlor,

some 30 miles north of Atlanta.

About an hour later, investigators say

and attacker walked intotwo other massage parlors,

killing four more.

- It appears that all victims are female.

- [Reporter] And race?

- It appears that they may be Asian.

- [Man] This startedup in Cherokee County.

My understand they shot up a spa there,

they've shot up two spas here in zone two.

So we need to make sure if we have

any Asian spas, we needto be checking on them.

- The suspect, 21-year-oldRobert Aaron Long

is in police custody.

Investigators say it isquote extremely likely

he's connected to all three shootings.

So far, no known motive,

but racially motivatedattacks targeting Asians

are on the rise nationwide

since the COVID pandemic hit a year ago.

A study by the group Stop AAPI Hate

found nearly 3,800anti-Asian hate incidents

between March 19th of last year

and February last month.

More than 500 recorded in 2021 alone.

Well, the Anti-Defamation League

reports white supremacist propaganda

made a surge across theUnited States in 2020.

The report revealing

5,125 cases of hate messages,

including racism and anti-Semitism spread

through flyers, posters and banners.

A former extremist sayscrises like the pandemic

and the 2020 electioncontroversies created opportunities

to fan hatred.

2020 saw the highest spread in hate speech

in at least 10 years.

Pat, back to you.

- Well, folks, you know,my friend, Pat Boone,

wrote a song called "Can't We Get Along."

You know, it's time westart loving these people.

The Asian-Americans are wonderful people.

The Hispanics are wonderful people

and the African-Americansare wonderful people,

if we just get to love each other,

I mean, what the world needsmore is love, sweet love.

We sing that song, butwe really do need that.

We need to love each other

and recognize that each person is made

in the image of God.

- A hundred million Americans in 17 states

face dangerous weather overthe next couple of days.

The Storm Prediction Center issued

a quote high-risk alertfor much of the south.

Forecasters say largehail, intense rainfall,

flash flooding, high wind gusts,

dangerous thunderstorms and tornadoes

are all factors beginning today.

The highest risks remain until Thursday

and Pat, the storms could last well

into the overnight hours.

- It's unbelievable.

I mean, first we're having global warming,

then they freeze in Texas,

the worst freeze probably in their history

and the water they can't drink,

it's just awful what'shappening to the weather.

I mean, here it was crowding 80 degrees,

but then it dropped down to 30 or 29.

I mean, it's just, I wish the weather

would make up its mind.

Wendy.

- It's a crazy March.

Well, coming up, it's St. Patrick's Day,

so you think everyone is celebrating

across the Emerald Isle.

Think again.

The patron saint is highly controversial

in the very city where he's buried.

Why?

You're gonna find out after this.

Plus, what would you say to the man

who killed your child

and then tried to hide his guilt?

Watch as this father tracks down the man

responsible for his daughter's death.

What did he say when he found him

and why was it so shocking?

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- As we mentioned earlier,

today's the day for thewearing of the green

in tribute to a wonderful human being

who's known as St. Patrick.

Well, you might think thepatron saint of Ireland

is celebrated throughoutthe whole Emerald Isle.

Thing again.

For the people of Northern Ireland,

St. Patrick is a controversial figure.

Why?

Dale Hurd explains.

- [Dale] St. Patrick may bethe patron saint of Ireland,

but he did much of his ministry

in Northern Ireland,

so much so that he evenasked to be buried here.

But the view of who Patrickis and what he stands for

is as divided today in Northern Ireland

as the wall that stilldivides part of Belfast.

While many nations celebrate

St. Patrick's Day enthusiastically,

in Belfast, it's complicated,

at least for many of thecity's British protestants,

who see Patrick as havingbeen hijacked by Catholics.

- I think that St. Patrick means probably

two different things to twodifferent groups of people.

- [Dale] Johnny McKee is lead pastor

at New Life City Church,

which sits squarely onBelfast's dividing line,

part of it's building in Catholic Belfast,

part of it in Protestant Belfast.

- The Protestants don't celebrate him

because even they view him as a green,

as Irish, as Ireland, as Catholic

and the Catholics, again,unwittingly celebrate him

as Catholic, even though he was neither

for me, Catholic nor Protestant.

- This is the Shankill Road in Belfast

and local legend has itthat St. Patrick walked

this road during his ministry.

But later, it would becomea symbol of bloodshed

and destruction during thetime known as the Troubles.

30 years of fighting between Catholics,

who wanted to join Ireland

and Protestants who wanted to stay British

left 3,500 people dead.

A peace agreement wasfinally signed in 1998

and Northern Ireland is healing,

but still has a ways to go

because all of Ireland as once a part

of the United Kingdom.

That red X-shaped cross in the Union Jack

is actually the cross of St. Patrick,

but that doesn't seem to impress

the Protestant British here.

- We would like to think

that what Patrick stood for could be

a great unifier within our communities,

but we have politicized him

and we've made him into a religious icon.

- [Dale] Jack McKee, senior pastor

at New Life City Church walks

with the cross on some of the same roads

that St. Patrick used.

He walks for peace and reconciliation

between the communities.

He walks with former terrorists,

now born again believers who used

to fight each other

and today worship together.

- His message was one of love,

was one of hope.

People on both sides would accept that.

But if he were to be here today,

then you could be sure that both sides

would want to drag him into their camp

and that perhaps even both sides

wouldn't genuinely want tohear what he has to say.

- [Dale] Patrick landed on the coast

of Northern Ireland in County Down

in the fifth century and it's near

the cathedral at Downpatrick

where his remains are believed

to be buried.

So is Patrick buried here?

- He's not buried rightunderneath that stone,

but he's on this hill.

If you can imagine this centuries ago

was just one of thoselittle hills of down,

he was brought here in 461

and buried on this site.

- [Dale] Patrick, who ministered

to violent tribes would have had a heart

for modern Belfast,

parts of which remain plagued

by hatred, drug abuse and broken families.

But how would Patrick be received

if he returned to Belfast today?

Pastor Jack has tried carrying

the cross on St. Patrick's day

and felt that hostility.

- And as I'm walking past

with the cross, one of them shouted out,

"You're an effing idiot."

And I thought to myself that's so ironic

that on St. Patrick's day the idiot

is the one carrying the cross.

- [Dale] So like parts of thenew peaceful Northern Ireland,

Patrick still waits to be rehabilitated,

to become not onlymeaningful to Catholics,

but to Protestants, as well.

- As far as I'm concerned, Patrick was

a fully committedfollower of Jesus Christ,

whether we call him evangelical,

whether we call him born again

and his message to all the people

regardless of what camp thatthey find themselves in,

regardless of what kingdomthat they identified with,

his message to the people was Jesus Christ

as a Savior for humanity.

- Dale Hurd, CBN News, Belfast.

- That's the word, Jesus Christ died

for all humanity andPatrick is not Protestant,

he's not Catholic, he'sjust one of us and Wendy.

- Amen, what a great story.

Well, St. Patrick's Day is, of course,

the perfect day to learn

the true story of Ireland's patron saint.

For your gift of any dollar amount,

we'll send you a DVD copyof CBN's latest docudrama,

"I Am Patrick."

You'll also be able toenjoy this stunning film

in streaming 4K on the CBN Family App.

And today, March 17th, you'll get access

to a special premier ofthe theatrical release.

It includes the full movie,

plus an exclusive pre-show segment

and other content.

So, just visit iampatrick.com

or you can call 1-800-700-7000

or text Patrick to 71777.

A very lucky number

and this is fantastic.

I've watched it and I thinkeverybody should see this.

Well, still ahead, her podcasts

have been downloaded morethan 40 million times.

Why are they so popular?

Annie Downs explains the power of fun

later on today's program.

But first, the never ending nightmare.

Years after his daughter's death,

this dad was haunted by grief.

What finally ended his pain

and what's his message forothers struggling with heartache?

Stay tuned.

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- Turn yourself in.

That was the desperateplea from Harold McDonald.

A hit and run driver had killed

his six-year-old daughter.

So did Harold want thekiller to come clean

in order to punish him?

No way.

Harold wanted to forgive him.

(phone ringing)

- [Narrator] On January 16, 1996,

Harold McDonald was running errands

when he received a phone call

no parent wants to get.

- My pastor had told me to rush

to the hospital because Shanie had been

in an accident.

- [Narrator] By the time Harold arrived

at the hospital,

his six-year daughter, Shantaya,

whom he affectionatelycalled Shanie had died.

- I couldn't believe it.

It's like something punched me in the gut

and took the life outta me, because...

That's all I had.

- [Narrator] Harold, who had sole custody

of his daughter learned she had dropped

a picture she had drawn for him

in the street.

When she went back to pick it up,

a car hit her, leavingher with fatal injuries.

In his pain and grief,

Harold turned his focustowards the driver,

who never stopped.

- I wanted to be pleasing to God

and whatever I can do to be that example,

I was willing to do it,

even if it hurts.

I was willing to forgive.

By now, the heartbreaking story

of Shanie's death had hit the local news.

What touched the community even more

was Harold's response when reporters asked

if he had a message forthe person responsible

for taking his daughter's life.

- I pleaded with him to turn his self in

and I said I love you

and God loves you.

- [Narrator] The next day,

Mandrell Sweeney turned himself

in to the police.

Harold didn't press charges.

The young man was chargedwith a misdemeanor

for leaving the scene of an accident

and released on bond.

The following day, Harold visited Mandrell

at his home.

- Here's this young guy, 18 years old

and said, "Harold, I am so sorry.

I didn't see, I didn't see your baby.

I didn't see her.

I was going too fast andwould you please forgive me."

As I extended forgiveness to Mandrell,

Mandrell began to just cry

and he came and he hugged me

and I had the opportunity

to pray with him.

Forgiveness wasn't for Mandrell,

it was for me.

And it started the processof healing instantly.

- [Narrator] More than 500 people gathered

at Shanie's funeral.

- I was an example to our community

on how to forgive,

how to give grace, how to love,

how to just let it go.

- [Narrator] A year later,

Harold fulfilled his dream

and opened his barber shop.

As he emerged as a strong pillar

in the community, he was still grieving

the death of his daughter.

- I would wake up where I would dream

that she was here with me

and the prayers I wouldpray is just God help me.

Lord help me.

By then, Harold's story of gesture

and forgiveness had fadedfrom the public eye.

Yet some still remembered.

One was Dalonika who recalls talking

to Harold in his shop about his daughter.

- That man who was on television,

his personality, his ability to forgive,

I felt like he was just unreal

as a person.

- [Narrator] That started a friendship

that led to their marriagethree years later.

During that time, Dalonika saw

on a deeper level the grief her husband

was going through.

- He still hurt.

Did he forgive?

He had nothing but goodto say about Mandrell.

There was no denial thatHarold loved this man

with a God-like love.

- [Narrator] Haroldbelieves that forgiveness,

along with Dalonika's prayers and support

brought healing and anend to the nightmares.

- The type of life that I would be living

if I would not have forgiven Mandrell

would have been a life of pain,

life of revenge and life of anger

and I would not have met my wife.

But because of it,

I'm able to live in the fullness of life.

- [Narrator] On January 16, 2021,

as they've done for years,

the family released balloons

to remember Shanie's life,one balloon for each year.

- Releasing the balloons is significant

of releasing love andpeace and joy and happiness

and this is what I believe that Shanie

was on this earth for.

- [Narrator] Ever sinceHarold found his own healing

from grief, he gives peoplein his barber's chair

more than a haircut.

He offers counsel to thosestruggling with forgiveness.

The couple also have a weekly radio show

where they minister to married couples.

They also co-authored a book

on Harold's journey of forgiveness

that led to his total healing.

- Let God heal your heart

and it doesn't matterif it's seven times 77,

give it back to God

and say I choose to forgiveand trust God to heal you.

- God can heal you and he can set you free

from all the struggle,

all the pain, all the heartache.

You gotta trust that God got it.

- You know the Bible sayswhen you stand praying

if you have ought against any forgive,

that your heavenlyFather might forgive you.

You know, if you wantto block your prayers

then hold on to hatred,

but if you want to be in astate of being born again,

of being able to have miracles,

that's the key.

And Harold found it.

It was a tough one, too.

It was tough to forgive,

but what an example.

But here again, if youhave ought against any

when you stand praying and forgive,

if you hold a grudge in your heart,

God himself will not answer your prayers

because you are cutting off the source

of God's blessing for you.

So can you imagine a speeding driver kills

your little girl and you should hate him,

you should want to haverevenge and all that

and Harold says no, I love him.

I love him because I have the love of God.

Now we have something for you

called, "Forgiveness,God's Power in Your Life."

You can download your free copy

if you call CBN, let's see cbn.com,

you can call or visit,download a free copy

of "Forgiveness, God'sPlan for Your Life."

It is so liberating.

You can set yourself upand just set yourself free,

but again when you stand praying,

if you have ought against any, forgive.

If you want to get your prayers answered,

don't hold a grudge inyour heart against anybody,

however long ago it happened,

whoever it is, whatever it is, forgive

because that is the key to God's blessing

in your life.

Wendy?

- Amen, good word, thanks Pat.

Well, coming up, that sounds fun.

Those words have electrified a movement.

First, it started with a podcast

downloaded 40 million times.

So, what's it morphed into now?

Find out when Annie Downs tells you

how to make room formore fun in your life.

And then, Pat weighs in on the issues

that matter most to you.

Corris asks, "How do youovercome loneliness?"

Stay tuned for yourquestions, honest answers,

later on today's show.

(upbeat music)

(triumphant music)

- Welcome back to Washington

for this CBN Newsbreak.

A California pastor is pleading

with Governor Gavin Newsom

to allow churches to reopen.

Jack Trieber of NorthValley Baptist Church

in Santa Clara said his congregation

wants to worship inside on Easter Sunday.

- Governor, Newsom, I implore you

to open up our churches byEaster Sunday, April the 4th.

This is Sunday and it'searly in the morning.

We're freezing out here.

We're cold.

We've been obeying for 366days, one year and one day.

We've shut our church down.

- The church has been meeting

in the parking lot and openair meetings with tents.

Well, another story out of California

that has some parents concerned.

The State's Department of Education

is set to vote on a proposedethnic studies curriculum

that would include achant to the Aztec god

of human sacrifice.

One writer has claimed

white Christians committed theocide

against America's native tribes,

killing their gods and replacingthem with Christianity.

In response, the newCalifornia woke curriculum

recommends the chant and appeal

to the Aztec gods accordingto the city journal.

Well, you can always get the latest

from CBN News by going toour website at cbnnews.com.

Pat and Wendy will be back

with more of the 700Club right after this.

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- A few years ago, Annie F. Downs recorded

an interview with an author she loved.

Afterwards, a friend askedher if she'd ever thought

about doing a podcast.

The first words out of Annie's mouth were

"That sounds fun."

And 40 million downloads later,

"That Sounds Fun" is still going strong.

- [Narrator] Annie F. Downsis a bestselling author,

speaker and host of a lively podcast

about fun becoming a priority in life.

- [Annie] We undervalue anddownplay the power of fun,

the place fun ought to have in our lives.

We don't prioritize the fun things.

- [Narrator] Annie'sout to change all that

with her latest book, "That Sounds Fun."

She's quite serious when she says fun

is the medicine we allneed now more than ever.

- Annie F. Downs joins us now via Skype.

Annie, welcome to the 700 Club.

- Hi, Wendy.

Thank you so much for having me.

- It's great to have you.

We need some fun, so we're glad you here.

- Yeah, yeah.

- We know, we just went through 2020,

some say one of the worstyears in recent history.

Should we even be having fun right now?

- Yeah, you know Wendywhat I think is true

and what's true in my life

and a lot of my friends' lives

is we do prioritize the things

that make us the most healthy

and so we're makingtime to eat during 2020,

we're making time to exercise,

we're making time to see people

that were in our safequarantine kind of bubble.

And to me, when you're lining up

the things in your emotional, spiritual

and physical life that make you healthy,

I think having fun needsto be in that as well.

- You know, you'veasked hundreds of people

about what sounds fun to them.

Is there a commondenominator of what people

are saying that they think is fun?

- Oh, my gosh, you'regonna love this Wendy.

So at the end of everyepisode of the podcast,

I always ask my guests, but then also

in the book, "That Sounds Fun,"

there's over 3,000 answers

of what people said sounded fun to them

and this is wild, but it almost always

goes back to if you keep asking why,

people will end up saying well,

when I was a kid.

When I was a kid

and it's because we're looking

for that simpler memory,

that simpler life.

We wanna go back towhen things felt easier

than they do now

and while we can't go back and get

those exact experiences,

we can sure bring some of those moments

into our today.

- Yeah, and you try to getto the deeper roots of fun.

What do you mean by that?

- Well, that's kind of my thing, Wendy,

is I want people tothink we're just talking

about fun and really whatwe end up talking about

is where is your hope?

And where's your joy?

And what have you lostthat you need to grieve?

'Cause if we don't feel sadness,

it's really hard tofeel the fullness of joy

and so really, myinvitation when I'm talking

about fun is can you go into your life

and grieve what you've lost

and remember what you loved

and bring the best partsof it into your today.

- Yeah.

So I know that you love travel

and that used to be a big part of your job

and that was fun for you.

Of course, last year noneof us were flying anywhere.

I miss traveling, too.

What are you doing for fun now, Annie?

- Oh, that's a great question

because you know, a lot of times,

especially before 2020, our fun was big

and loud and maybe expensive

and maybe lasted for a few days,

but what I've grown to love

is simple fun in my everyday life,

so playing with my friends' kids,

playing soccer with my friends' kids.

I love cross stitching again.

My grandmother taught me to cross stitch

like 30 years ago, Wendy,

and I've just picked it up again

and what's beautiful about it

is it reminds me of my grandmother.

It reminds me of being with my family

and I don't live in the samecity as my family anymore

and I'm making something.

I'm actually creating something

that didn't exist.

And there's somethingreally gospel about that.

There's something about taking

some of these materials and turning them

into something that's really fun.

- I don't cross stitch,but my grandmother,

she painted with acrylic paints

and when I was a little girl,

she let me paint alongside her

and as an adult, sometimesI will find myself wanting

to do that, you know, just for fun.

So, is it important for usto get a hobby right now?

- Yes, I mean that's abeautiful story, Wendy.

That's, a lot of us, if we were sitting

around the table, a lotof our friends listening

and watching would have a similar story.

And it is why we need topick up hobbies again,

because hobbies are these activities,

these moments that separateyou from your work life

that kind of take youaway from your phone,

'cause I hate to tell you, Wendy,

but scrolling is not a hobby,

right, like on Instagram-

- Uh-oh, I'm in trouble.

- I know, it's hard for me to hear, too.

But that's not a hobby,

but what can we be doing

that brings community, thatbrings connection with God

and with other peopleand even with ourselves.

There will be some Saturdayswhere I will listen

to podcasts or listen to an audiobook

and work on a puzzle and 40 minutes in,

I'm realizing that I'mpraying about something.

And I'm asking God about something

because when we make space,

when we let our lives get quiet

and get into a hobby,

a lot of times that'swhere I meet with Jesus.

- In your book, youencourage falling in love,

which sounds great,

but you don't mean that just on

a romantic level, right?

- No, but very welcome to do that, too.

Yeah, of course, I think it is great

to let ourselves love.

A lot of times I don't knowwhere this started, Wendy,

but at some point, I felt this pressure

to not love things

as much as I want to love them.

I felt this pressure to like hold back

on how big my feelings were.

And as I've gotten healthier,

emotionally, spiritually and kind of come

into more being Annie,

I just felt like man, what if we all

just let ourselves love what we love.

I love the French horn.

I love soccer.

I love Nashville.

Like we could just let ourselves love

and tell shame it doesn't have a voice

in telling us whether that's cool or not.

- Amen.

What's the one big message you want people

to take away from yourbook, "That Sounds Fun?"

- Yeah, I think if I had one big message,

my big hope is that people will return

to what used to be fun to them,

that they would make space for fun

in their lives and whatyou will actually find

when you make space for fun

is you will find connection,

and peace and joy and love and all those

are there and ready for you when

you're pursuing fun

and I think, I think the connection

with God and other peoplereally changes you.

- Yeah, and I think Godwants us to have fun.

- Yes, I mean look at Jesus' life, Wendy.

He went to parties all the time,

he was, everyone invitedhim to their weddings

and kids loved being around him.

Jesus was really fun.

I am very convinced that we're,

I mean we're all made in the image of God

and if there are people that are fun,

that must be true of our God, too.

- Amen, amen.

Well, Annie, thank you so much

for writing this book, 'cause we all need

a little fun in 2021and you can learn more

in Annie's brand newbook, "That Sounds Fun."

It's available nationwide.

"That Sounds Fun" is also the name

of Annie's show and you can listen to it

on your favorite podcast provider.

Annie, thank you so much, God bless you.

- Wendy, thanks for having me.

I'm so glad to be here.

- All righty, well, still ahead,

another hard hitting round

of your questions, honest answer.

Alex writes, "How will we be able

to recognize what the mark of the beast is

and when will it be here?"

What will Pat say about that?

Find out when we come back.

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- Sending her children to an orphanage?

That looked like the only option

for a desperate single mother named Diana.

Get rid of your kids,give them to an orphanage?

She was already struggling

after her husband deserted their family.

Then Diana lost her job due to COVID-19

and she and her childrenwere left to starve.

- [Narrator] 40-year-oldDiana still remembers

the day her husband left her

with three small children to raise.

- My children were very little.

I had to leave them aloneat home to go to work.

If I didn't work, we didn't eat.

- [Narrator] Diana dideverything she could

to provide for her kids.

She sold food and drovea motorcycle shuttle

for school children.

But ever since COVID-19 hit Indonesia,

schools have been closed

and Diana has been out of work.

It is not the first timeshe felt this desperate.

- I remember there was a point

when I wanted to commit suicide

because the burden was too heavy.

- [Narrator] Diana is a Christian

and she prayed, shewondered if sending her kids

to an orphanage was her only option.

- Every time I saw them,

I put that thought out of my mind.

I said, "God, please strengthen me.

I really love my kidsand I don't want them

to live in an orphanage."

- [Narrator] OperationBlessing in Indonesia

has been assemblingthousands of food packs

with rice, eggs, oil and other essentials

to help vulnerable families like Diana.

- They sent you to helpus with the food bag.

I really thank God and thank the people

who made this happen in our life.

- You've never been to Indonesia

I imagine most of you haven't, I've been,

but most of you haven't been there

and yet there's a lady over in Indonesia

that you've helped.

Just think of that.

Because the Lord'sspirit is working in you

and you become the hand of Jesus extended.

You know, I was sickand you came to see me,

visited me, I was inprison, you visited me,

I was hungry and naked

and you fed me and clothed me.

So you did that when you joined

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Well, it's $20 a months, 65 cents a day

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- Everybody that loves it,

I've given it to several people as gifts

and the main comment is,"I couldn't put it down."

- Yeah.

- I couldn't put it down'cause people just love it.

It's such a great read.

- Well, it's beautifully honest

and it's right from the heart

and it's filled with miracles

and so it's all of for you, okay.

- Well, here's somebody, Willie Mae

from Missouri City, Texashas read your book, Pat.

Willie Mae said, "I enjoyedreading your wonderful book,

I Have Walked with the Living God.

I'm sharing it with my family,

especially my three great grandchildren.

My faith is strongerand I know God loves me

and my family."

Thank, Willie Mae, we appreciate that.

- I want it to go all around the world

and that's what I'm hopingfor, but anyhow, that's good.

All right, we got some...

- Yeah, we're gonna startwith some questions.

- All right, let's go.

- Alex has this question for Pat.

He says, "I don't necessarily

anticipate the mark of the beast

to be a physical stamp or a visible tattoo

that people will get ontheir forehead or hand.

I would not be surprised if it is indeed

some kind of chip peopleget into their bodies,

hence the ability to buy and sell,

but I'm wondering how we will be able

to recognize what the mark of the beast is

and when it is here," Pat.

- Well, I think if there is such a thing,

they do have implants now and tattoos

that would be right under your skin

that would, you could haveall of your information

implanted in a little chip about all

your medical conditions and so forth

and they're working onthings like that right now

in various laboratories.

But I think the whole idea of your hand

is what you do, your mind is your volition

and your hand, you'll tattoothe mark of the beast,

it means you're giving yourself over

to satanic things, that'sreally what it amounts to.

It isn't necessarily some mystical thing

we're talking about.

We're talking about where is your mind

and where are your actions and to whom

to they belong.

That's the big question, all right.

- All right, here's a question from Macy.

She says, "My husband is 100 percent sure

he's going to go to heaven.

And I ask, what about all those women

you slept with before you got married

and the woman you sleptwith after your divorce?

He said, it's okay becausethey weren't married.

Is he still going to heaven?"

- I'll tell you ifimmorality would keep people

out of heaven, there'd have been

a whole lot of people not going,

but, you know, lookwhat happened to David.

David not only had an affair with

a married woman, Bathsheba, but he had,

she got pregnant and hehad her husband killed

to cover it up.

And yet, God said he'sa man after my own heart

who carries out all my programs

and he said restore in me

the joy of my salvation and take not

your Holy Spirit from me.

God will forgive.

The question is are you going to go out

into eternity withoutasking for forgiveness.

If you're keeping on the thing,

he that is born of the Spirit of God quote

does not keep on sinning.

That's what the Bible says, all right.

- All right, good word.

Corris says my question is,

"How do you overcome loneliness?"

- Jesus said I'll never leave you

nor forsake you and you've got to know

your heavenly Father iswith you wherever you are.

Jesus is never gonna leave you

and what you need is to staytuned into Jesus Christ.

I mean, he's always with you

and you get along with him and the Bible

and you're talking to somebody,

you're never alone whenyou're with him, all right.

- That's right.

All right, Lee says, "Hi, Pat.

What are the bestsupplements for your skin?

Also, do you think it's okay to be

in the sun for 20 minutes a day.

I like to walk and I don't take

the time to put on sunscreen."

- All right, I really think that I'm

not a cosmetician.

I've got all kinds of stuff that I take.

I take an array of vitamins

that will just blow your mind,

so I don't wanna go into all that,

but I do think if you'regonna get in the sun,

you ought to put a sunscreen on because

the rays of the sun canreally do damage to you

and it doesn't take too long before

you start getting,

there's a possibility ofskin cancer and so forth,

but having a littlesunscreen certainly is not

going to hurt you and in the end,

it will certainly protect you

from problems later ondown the road, all right.

- It'd be so nice if the sun, you know,

didn't age you anddidn't cause skin cancer

because it feels so good,

especially this time of year.

You're just so starving for some sunshine.

- Well, I'll tell you, up on the mountain

where I go, it's much closer

and you can get burned so quickly sitting

in the sun and you don'trealize what's happening.

Of course, the air is thinner,

but I think a little sunscreen,

a little of those things isvery important, all right.

- Yeah, I wear sunscreen year round.

- [Pat] You do? Okay, good, I don't.

- This viewer says, "Iwas committing habitual,

willful sin. I alwaysrepented and then sinned.

Then repented again.

I am no repented andtrying with God's help

to change, but I am worried,

is it too late for me?

Have I been cut off?

- No, you haven't seven times 70

is what the Lord says.

If you ask for forgiveness,

God is always as far as the east is

from the west, that's how far I'll take

your sins from you

and God will forgive you.

He's waiting for you to come,

but look, don't come in and say

I'm going to confess to this,

but in my heart, I'm notgonna keep on doing it.

You know, if you really are born again,

you can't keep on sinning.

You just won't do it, all right.

- Amen, here's Sam.

He says, "Hi, Pat.

In Matthew 16:19, the NIV, Jesus tells

the people whatever you bind on earth

will be bound in heaven

and whatever you loose on earth

will be loosed in heaven.

Does this verse tell us to bind

the evil spirits

and the devil?

Do we not have the authority to rebuke

or bind the devil in all evil?

- That thing's got nothingto do with the devil

to tell you the truth.

I mean, yes, you have power to do that,

but what he's talkingabout is regulations.

You know, the church has the power

in his name to bind regulations

and to loose regulations.

That's what he's talking about.

You see the law has so many requirements

and he gave his churchthe power to bind them,

to make them obligatoryor to take them off.

That's what that's about.

The demon thing is totallydifferent, all right.

Well, today's PowerMinute comes from James.

"Do not merely listen to the word,

but do what it says."

Thank you for being with us.

See you tomorrow, bye-bye.