- President Trump's legalstrategy is in full gear.

There are lawsuits fromGeorgia to Michigan,

from Nevada to Pennsylvania,

also allegations related tovoter fraud and irregularities.

Joining us now to helpus understand all this

and give us an updateon where things stand

is the executive director

of the American Center forLaw & Justice, Jordan Sekulow.

Welcome Jordan.

- Thanks Mark, thanks for having me.

- Where exactly do things stand

with the president's legal fight?

- You know, I also serve onthe president's legal team

outside of my role at the ACLJ,

so of course we start with Pennsylvania.

There's a number oflegal challenges there,

but one is already at the Supreme Court.

And a stay that was put inplace Friday by Justice Alito

is still in effect as the time

we're talking together right now,

and that was a stay to segregate

all the late arriving mail-in ballots.

You could count them,

but you could not include themin the actual total votes.

So that has actually beenreferred to the full Court.

The full Court has not yet made a decision

on how they are going to proceed on that.

So there's Pennsylvania.

And then you're juststarting to see the lawsuits,

like you mentioned, fromstates across the country,

the key battlegrounds,whether it's Michigan, Nevada,

Arizona, potentially Georgia as well,

because of the full handrecount that was announced today

by the Georgia secretary of state.

I would just tell everybodywatching right now,

it took 37 days from the 2000 election

until we got the rulingfrom the Supreme Court

that put George W. Bushahead in the electoral count

and made him presidentof the United States.

We're only about eight days into this.

And so in the beginning, youheard all these accusations

of things happeningall across the country.

Is it machines, is it peoplethat are doing the wrong thing?

Are there missing ballots,are there extra ballots?

Are there dead peoplevoting, Sharpie issues?

All these different things.

Then you give us a week

and we've kind of started to put together

the actual legal cases that aregoing to be brought in court

either by the RNC, the Trump campaign,

or the president's legal team.

- What role does the ACLJ have in this?

Does it have a role in this as well?

- It does because we, of course,

at the American Center for Law & Justice,

you know, one of our top issues

is protecting the Constitutionalrights of all Americans.

That would include theirlegal right to vote,

to make sure that if they voted legally

that their vote is not,

again, canceled out by someonewho voted either illegally

or a ballot that shouldn'thave been accepted,

or a ballot that was too late

and that law that waschanged was done improperly.

So there's a Constitutional issue,

the ACLJ will be involvedin in the federal courts,

especially if it hits the Supreme Court

on issues like equal protection,

that every American's voteshould be treated the same

and whether that voteis a legal vote or not

should also be treated the same.

So whether the signature machinesare matching up correctly.

I mean, we've got a whole host of issues

that at the ACLJ it has nothing to do

with partisan politics,

it has to do with protectingthe Constitutional rights

of Americans and theintegrity of your vote

and my vote and our votes.

- Jordan, what are your thoughtson the election results?

- I think, as of today,I get this question a lot

because I'm a member ofPresident Trump's legal team,

so you can imagine people ask,

"Is there really enoughlegal issues out there?"

And I say after this morning,

when Georgia announced afull recount, hand recount,

but also an audit of theirvote, that is a major deal.

And that's a state that could flip.

There are people thathave done the statistics

that that could flip to President Trump.

There's the cases out of Pennsylvania.

There are very serious allegations

coming with the voting machines as well

that actually if youuse electronic ballot,

but you get that piece of paper

and then you stick it into that machine,

37 states use a machine that'sbeen reporting problems.

You can imagine how that could change

the outcome of an election.

So I ask people to giveus the same amount of time

that the Bush campaign hadback in 2000, it was 37 days.

We're about eight days into this.

Take it all with a grain of salt,

let the attorneys do their job,

and again we're gonnamake sure that the vote,

the integrity of the vote is secured,

whether that is a voteultimately that favors

President Trump or Joe Biden.

- How do you think allthis is going to end?

- You know, I think there'sonly two ways it ends.

It either ends with a kindof massive Supreme Court case

where they actually include,I think, a lotta these cases

from different states together

and they do a multi-hour case,

which they're doing some of right now

because they're doingeverything by conference call.

We participated in one of those

as the president's legal team.

My dad it right from where I am right now

talking to you, Mark.

And it was on conferencecall and not Zoom, no video.

And they went way over the normal amount

of one hour time total for each argument.

So it would either end inkind of the massive case

that could determine theoutcome at the Supreme Court,

or it will end at the lower court levels.

And so it kinda goes all the way up

or these lawsuits kinda gomidway and don't get above that.

And if they don't make it allthe way to the Supreme Court,

it means that probably Joe Biden

is president of the United States.

If you get to the Supreme Court,

I think, again, this is all,

and you get these cases all there

where it's outcome determinative,

that is the key term to look for,

is that the cases combinedwould change the outcome

of where we see theelectoral votes right now.

And those are the two options.

It's either gonna beoutcome determinative cases

at the Supreme Court within 30 days,

or Joe Biden will be president.

- All right, the executive director

of the American Center forLaw & Justice, Jordan Sekulow.

Thank you for your time today, Jordan.

- Thank you, Mark.