- [Gordon] A shocking curriculum.

- Our country says that wewere founded to be a democracy.

Well, we were actuallyfounded as a slave-ocracy.

- [Gordon] That's already in more

than 3,500 school districts.

- This is being used byserious people as a kind

of indoctrination toespecially young black minds.

- [Gordon] The agendabehind the 1619 Project

and why a group of scholarsare pushing back against it.

Plus, she led a life ofhomosexuality and rebellion.

- I was always about to push boundaries.

- [Gordon] Until shegoogled some Bible verses.

- He no longer lookedlike this blob in the sky.

God grew in my mind.

- See how her life was radically changed

all on today's "700 Club Interactive."

Welcome to the show.

It's surprising, but it's true.

School children in the UnitedStates are being taught

that this country was built on the back

of slavery instead of democracy.

- That's right.

And this curriculum iscalled the 1619 Project

and it's actually in over3,500 school districts

in the nation right now.

So how could this be happening

and what can we do to stop it?

Take a look.

- [Dale] In the wake ofthe George Floyd death

and Black Lives Matter protests,

more and more school districts are adding

Critical Race Theory, which teaches that

America and whites are inherently racist

to their courserequirements for graduation.

President Trump calls it toxic propaganda

that must be eliminated from schools.

- The left has warped, distorted,

and defiled the American story

with deceptions, falsehoods, and lies.

- The California Legislaturepassed a school curriculum

that was vetoed by the governor

that would have requiredstudents to critique empire

and its relationship to white supremacy,

racism, patriarchy,cisheteropatriarchy, capitalism,

ableism, anthropocentrism,and other forms of power

and oppression at theintersections of our society.

But the most well-known andcontroversial school curriculum

on race is The New YorkTimes' 1619 Project,

which says America'sfounding, its government,

and its economy are all based

on slavery and white supremacy.

And that America didn'tbegin in 1776, but in 1619,

when the first Africanslaves arrived in Virginia.

Our country says that we werefounded to be a democracy.

But we were actuallyfounded as a slave-ocracy.

- The 1619 Project is now in well

over 3,500 school districts.

The New York Times hasbrushed aside claims

by several historiansthat the 1619 Project

has major factual errors, basically saying

that American history isopen to interpretation.

But after a barrage of criticism

for its historicalinaccuracy, references to 1619

as America's true foundinghave been quietly removed

from this 1619 website.

And now a group of 21 scholars are calling

for the Pulitzer Prize Boardto strip Nicole Hannah Jones

of her 2020 award for heressay on the 1619 Project

saying it's disfiguredby unfounded conjectures

and patently false assertions.

Columbia Universityprofessor John McWhorter

told Glen Lowery the 1619Project subverts the truth.

- Buffalo schools are using this.

And Buffalo isn't the only place.

There's of course, a podcast series.

This is being used by serious people

as a kind of indoctrination toespecially young black minds,

to think that the whole story we tell

about America and its founding is a lie.

- [Dale] The 1619 Projectasked students about examples

of hypocrisy in the foundingof the United States

and about evidence thatthis nation was founded

not as a democracy but as a slave-ocracy.

And Trump has announcedthe 1776 Commission

to promote patriotic education.

The president has also tweeted that

if schools use the 1619 Project,they will not be funded.

And the mayor of Chicago,

whose schools are using the 1619 Project,

has threatened to sue thepresident if he tries.

- And if he does, obviouslywe will see him in court.

- [Dale] Dr. Carol Swain, whogrew up in the Jim Crow South

in a shack without running water,

but would go on to teachat Princeton and Vanderbilt

calls the 1619 Project anagenda-driven false narrative.

- If the curriculum was balanced,

it would have to tell thepositive side of America.

America has been a success story and it's

because whites and blacks work together.

So as a descendant of slaves,

I feel blessed to be an American.

Slavery is what it was.

It was not unique to America.

And what is true of America was that

they were always whites who fought

against the institution ofslavery, the abolitionists.

- [Dale] Swain and otherblack scholars have put

forward a historicallyaccurate alternative

to the 1619 Project called 1776 Unites.

Founder Robert Woodson callsslavery America's birth defect

that the nation was able to rise above.

- No nation or individualshould be defined

by its birth defect or whatit used to be in the past.

America should be defined by its promise.

- [Dale] 1776 Unitesis free and can be used

by schools and organizations.

Dale Hurd, CBN News.

- Well, this is something thatwe should all be concerned

about because if youdistort the lens of history,

then you're going to distort the lens

of the present reality.

Was slavery a part ofthe American colonies?

Yeah, and it was part of what was imported

from what was then happening in Europe.

And I'll add, also happening in Africa.

So that was part of whatwas going on in the world.

Did we have slavery atour founding in 1776?

Yes.

Did the writer of theDeclaration of Independence

who wrote the famous words,

"We hold these truths to be self-evident,

all men are created equal,"the guy who wrote that,

Thomas Jefferson, was also a slave owner.

Let's not ignore these things.

But let's also not ignore theEmancipation Proclamation,

the struggle for freedomthat led, 100 years later,

to the Civil Rights movement,

the struggle for freedom thatis still happening today.

Let's build on that andbuild on those successes,

not try to tear it down andsay the entire thing is bad.

And so no, let's seize what is good

and say how can we moveforward together realizing

that as Christians, asbrothers and sisters in Christ,

we can have a unity thatwill lead to a great culture.

Ashley, what's your view on this?

- I 100% agree with you.

I think it's important,obviously that we don't ignore,

I like what one of themen in that piece said,

it's our birth defect,slavery is our birth defect.

But we can't ignore thatand ignore the other,

which is us rising above that

and being a nation formed on democracy.

So you have to have both,

you can't ignore one without the other.

So that's my thought.

- All right.

Well, coming up, ever heardof salad bar religion?

That's how Emily Thomestreated her Christian faith.

- Combining what I liked,disregarding what I didn't like,

you could some in the Bible,

some New Age stuff, some whatever.

- Changed her view, when we come back.

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God uses many things to get our attention.

For Emily, he used Google.

She used the search engineto look up Bible verses

and those verses changed her life.

- My parents divorced when I was four,

but then they both remarried three times.

I lived with my momuntil I was 15 years old

and then I moved in with my dad.

I got in trouble all the time.

I was always about to push boundaries,

Just whatever the rulewas, where the line was,

I had to take two orthree steps ahead of it.

I remember in junior high thinking that

I was attracted to girls.

I believe that okay, if I feel this way,

that must mean I'm gay.

Whenever I was 15, Istarted seeing someone.

From that moment forward,the war between me

and my parents was on.

So of course, I just pushedharder, rebelled even more.

- [Narrator] At 18, Emily moved out

so she could live the way she wanted.

- I was convinced that I was okay.

I viewed it like acivil rights type thing.

I thought I was doing theright thing the whole time

and believed I wasdefending my personhood,

not just a behavior.

I never questioned it as being wrong.

At 18 I was no longer afraidof getting in trouble.

I wasn't trying to play nice,I guess, anymore with it,

which caused me to actreally, really wild.

I drank a lot.

I went to a ton of parties.

I smoked weed almostevery day for some years.

I dated different women.

I was so far, so faroff, like unrecognizable,

even to me now.

But I just let myself go, Isaid, "Well, this is who I am."

- [Narrator] One day, Emily's aunt invited

her to a Bible study.

- And I was reading aboutdifferent attributes

of God that I'd never considered.

He no longer look likethis blob in the sky.

He was holy and good and love,

but also just, also righteous.

God grew in my mind from beingthis live and let live figure

to a Creator who had apurpose and who was involved

and cared about our day to day.

- [Narrator] Even though she tried,

Emily couldn't stop thinking about

what she was learning about God.

- I look to my best friend and I say,

"Hey, what if they're right?

What if this is this true?"

She told me I was killingher high and she left

and I immediately went and got the book

that I'd been reading in the study.

And that night, I was reading about

what the book calls a salad bar religion,

where you pick and choose different parts.

Like you can pick some in the Bible,

some New Age stuff, some whatever.

And I realized that that'sexactly what I was doing,

that I was combining what I liked,

disregarding what I didn't like.

I google verses on homosexuality.

Then I come across I Corinthians 6:9-11,

"Do not be deceived," it says,

"neither the sexuallyimmoral," nor this, nor that,

"nor those who practicehomosexuality," nor some more,

"will enter the kingdom of heaven."

It says, "And such were some of you,

but you were washed, you were sanctified,

you were justified in thename of the Lord Jesus."

I realized that I was not a Christian.

I realized I wasn'tsubmitted to Him at all.

I realized that my religion was worthless

'cause it had no works,it had no anything.

I immediately to obeyHim and wanted my life

to look like a life should look.

I didn't know how toeven describe anything.

I just said I can't be gay anymore.

that's all I know whatto say, I can't do it.

I don't know what I'm going to do,

but I know what I can't do anymore.

It's right here.

It's very clear.

And that's okay.

I don't need to have anything, I'm alive.

And He's forgiven me andthat's better than anything

and I don't deserve it.

When I first got saved, I thought,

"Oh, I should go out and date a boy."

And that's not the fix.

Of course it's not the fix.

It's God.

It's not jumping from homosexuality

to heterosexuality at all.

It's holiness that He calls us to.

I had to understand myidentity has to be in Christ,

not in dating a Christian boyor anything else like that.

I needed time to grow and just understand

what Scripture says.

- [Narrator] Emily tookadvantage of her time alone

learning more about God andwhat it means to be a Christian.

After some time, she met someone.

- Ben's mom introduced us,

but he already knew my testimony.

So he already knew everything.

And is totally cool withmoving forward with me.

And what's cool about Ben is that

he knows his own need for grace.

You know what I mean?

He understands it biblically,

which is that we're all broken.

I may have looked morebroken outwardly than Ben,

but he understands thathe is in much need of God

and forgiveness and redemption as I am.

So on the two year anniversaryof me getting saved,

Ben and I actually got to marry.

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Look at Scripture.

look at your life and beas fair as you can and say,

"Do I look like a redeemed saint,

someone who battles sin, butsomeone who's been redeemed?"

I still struggle with sin.

I still struggle with different attraction

or with a desire to lie.

It's easier but that doesn't have to be

what my identity's in.

My identity is in Him.

I feel loved in that.

I'm not a slave to it anymore.

He saved me.

- And he can save you too.

What does it take to get that?

What does it take toget the transformation

that happened to Emily?

What does it take?

For her, it was a journey.

That journey included let'sgoogle the Bible verses

about this and let's findout what the Bible says.

And it's curious that she goesto that verse in Corinthians.

But some of you were like this.

Realize the Bible waswritten in a Greek world

and in that Greek world,homosexuality was accepted.

It was part of the fabric, ifyou will, of their society.

The Romans actuallylooked down on the Greeks

that they let their noble families go

to the academies where allthe boys were then made

into effeminates and theycouldn't fight battles anymore.

There were specific wordsfor behaviors in the Greek

language that we don't evenhave words for in English.

Were there the ridicule words as well?

Yes.

Were there discrimination words?

Yes, they had those too.

But it was accepted, itwas part of the fabric.

And Christianity comes into that and says,

we've got something else for you.

You can be reconciled with God.

He wants to have a relationship with you.

He wants to meet you where you are,

but here's the great part of it.

In that relationship, He doesn'twant to leave you this way.

He doesn't want to leave youa slave to any inclination.

He doesn't want you to be a slave

to what the Bible very clearly calls sin.

And so he offers a wayfor you to be washed,

for you to be cleansed whereyou're no longer governed

by lust, you're governed by love.

And it's a tremendous transformation.

Emily is a witness to it.

This is what happened to me.

That can happen to you.

Now, Emily's very honest.

She still struggles withthings and all Christians do.

If we say we don't sin, we lie.

But here's the great part.

We know the attributes of God.

We know that He's just,we know that He's loving.

We know that He's forgiving,and we come to Him

and we confess our sinsand He will be faithful

and just to forgive us and cleanse us

from all unrighteousness.

If you want to try this,if you want to say okay,

if you're saying this is real,here's the prayer for you.

Jesus, if You're there, if You're real,

if You really are my Savior,if You can really come

to where I am and meet meso that I can know You,

could You, could You show up for me?

If you prayed that with all of your heart,

here's the promise for you.

"When you seek Me with all of your heart,

then you will find Me."

He wants to be found.

He wants to show up.

He wants to be your Savior.

That's why He died for you.

All you have to do is ask.

If you want help withthis, just give us a call.

1-800-700-7000 and justsay, "I need Jesus.

I need to find Him."

And there'll be somebody onthe other end of that line.

They're not there to judge you.

They're there to love you andtell you God loves you too.

All you have to do is pick up the phone.

Give us a call, 1-800-700-7000.

Ashley, over to you.

- Amen to that.

Well, when the pandemic hit,

Chastity lost over half of her income.

As a single mom, she wasstruggling to put food

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Take a look.

- [Narrator] Chastity is a single mother

who loves spending timeoutdoors with their children.

When the COVID pandemicforced them to stay inside

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- I lost half of my pay,

half of my income for a couple of months.

It was very hard tryingto make my car payment

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- [Narrator] She knew she needed help.

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about Operation Blessing partner,

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- My daughter likes to bake and it was

when we went to Operation Blessing,

they loaded my car up,I mean completely full,

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She was just so excitedand there were so many

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- [Narrator] Thanks toOperation Blessing partners,

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Gordon.

- Well, still to comeAshley and I are going

to talk about the future of America,

elections, and prophecies from the Bible.

Stay with us.

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- Welcome back to the show, everyone.

And welcome back toanother round of Q and A

with none other than Gordon Robertson.

Are you ready, Gordon?

- Are you ready, Ashley?

I may turn this back on you.

- Oh goodness, no, no.

We want to hear from you.

You dad gave a verypowerful prophetic word

last week on "The 700Club" about the election

and the events that will happenglobally after the election.

And I just feel like it would be helpful

if you broke that down a little bit.

First, he talked about thatthere's going to be more

chaos and disunity inAmerica after the election.

And because of all of that,there's going to be a prophecy

in Ezekiel that will be fulfilled.

Can you break down thatEzekiel prophecy for us?

- The Ezekiel prophecy is actually not

about events in America.

And for those that want tofollow up with the Scripture,

it's Ezekiel 36, 37, 38.

"I will yet being inquired of by Israel

for this is how it begins."

And it talks about the restoration

of the Jewish people tothe nation of Israel.

The president of YaleUniversity, Ezra Stiles,

back in the revolution days,

I'm going all the way back to 1780.

He read Scripture in Hebrew.

He was a Hebrew scholar.

He found things in that that convinced him

that Israel would be restored as a nation.

And he was so absolutely convinced of this

and convinced that itwas going to happen soon,

that he wanted every freshmen

at Yale University to learn Hebrew.

And it became a greattradition of the evangelicals

of America to support Israel

and to support Israelbecoming a nation state.

Now at the time, 1780, it was impossible.

The Ottoman Empire controlledthe land of Palestine.

There wasn't any chance

that the Muslim Ottomanswould ever do that.

But things started tounfold a hundred years

after Ezra Stiles issaying it's in the Bible,

it's going to happen.

It was the beginningof the Zionist movement

and Herzl's famous, "The Jewish State,"

which curiously was a secular movement.

The Orthodox were firmly of the opinion

that the Messiah wouldre-establish the nation.

And it took secularJews, non-religious Jews,

to say, "No, we're going to do this."

Then a series of unusual events led to,

think they're miraculous events,

the Balfour Declaration was made,

the League of Nationsestablished that part

of their goals was tocreate a nation state

for the Jewish people in Palestine.

That became part of international law

at the San Remo Conference.

The Brits didn't follow up on the mandate.

There was a lot of concernabout the supply of oil

for the British Navy andso they didn't do it.

And then it took a horriblewar and it took those events.

At the same time, some wonderfulpeople in Israel saying,

"We believe in this," andDavid Ben-Gurion leading them,

"We are going to establish a nation here."

And then in 1948, the miracle happens

and the dry bones come to life

and the nation of Israel is born

and the prophecy is fulfilled.

Can a nation be born in a day?

And the answer is yes and it happened.

And it broke through asan incredible fulfillment

of prophecy and what evangelicals

in America had been seeingfor almost 200 years.

Then you have the Six-Day War

and the reunificationof Jerusalem in 1967,

a fulfillment of what Jesus said,

and then you look at a Ezekiel 38,

and that is the unfulfilledpiece when Israel is at peace.

So look at those chapters,that'll give you more insight.

Here's a word from Hebrews.

"Let us hold fast theconfession of our hope

without wavering, for Hewho is promised is faithful.

God bless you.

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