A man is told his tumor is inoperable and that he has just months to live. See how he reacted and discover why he’s still alive today. Plus, author Banning Liebscher shows you how to take a three-mile walk to holiness, courage and faith.
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- It was a death sentence.
- [Announcer] An inoperable tumor.
- Is this really my life?
- [Announcer] And threeto six months to live.
- This isn't the way thatthings are gonna end.
- [Announcer] So what could this man do,
when there was nothing left to do?
- God is our only hope.
There is no other option.
- [Announcer] And why is he still alive?
- It was like that sealed it,
it's a done deal.
- [Announcer] The answers,on today's 700 Club.
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- Welcome to The 700 Club.
A big victory for theLittle Sisters of the Poor,
at the Supreme Court.
The nuns will not be forcedto pay for birth control.
And they're not the only winners.
Religious schools willno longer be forbidden
to fire teachers.
Paul Strand begins our coverage.
- Two huge wins for religiousliberty, here at the court,
on one of the very last days of this term.
- Significant victorieson religious liberty today
by a margin of 7 to 2.
And so if anything, thisshould send a signal
to the culture that weshould all be protecting
and valuing and cherishingreligious liberty.
(cheering)
- [Paul] The religiousrights legal group Becket
represented the Little Sisters of the Poor
in their fight againstthe Obamacare mandate
to violate their conscience
and provide abortion-causingcontraceptives
through their healthcare plan.
- [Recording] We knew immediatelythat we could not comply.
To do so would have been anirreconcilable contradiction
of the belief that guidesour ministry and life's work.
- The Supreme Court hasresoundingly declared
that religious Americans are entitled
to the full protection of the Constitution
and of our laws.
- I'm really botheredwhen I hear people say
this is a victory for religious people,
as though it's a defeatfor non-religious people.
This is a victory for all Americans.
Because the principle of religious freedom
applies to everyone.
And a government that's big enough
to restrict religious freedom,
is a government that can do anything.
- [Paul] But Sheila Katzof the National Council
of Jewish Women complained,
"A person's ability toaccess birth control
"should not be dependenton the religious views
"of their employer oreducational institution
"under the guise of religious freedom."
The White House weighed in, stating,
"Twice before in this ongoing saga,
"the Supreme Court hasblocked these overly rigid
"and misguided efforts andsided with religious freedom.
"Today, it has once againvindicated the conscience rights
"of people of faith."
But most court watchers believethis saga will add a chapter
if the White Housechanges hands in November.
- If a Democrat wins the WhiteHouse in the next election,
I absolutely expect theseregulations to change,
to go back to something morelike the Obama administration's
rules that will muchmore limit the ability
of religious ministries to get exemptions
from the contraception mandate.
- [Paul] So while the LittleSisters are celebrating
for now, one day they mayhave to go through this again.
Paul Strand, CBN News, the Supreme Court.
- Well, it was good news also, yesterday,
in the second Supreme Court ruling.
The justices decided that thegovernment has no business
telling a religious schoolor ministry who to hire.
Heather Sells explains this huge victory
for religious rights.
- [Heather] Two California teachers sued
their Catholic school employers
for not renewing their contracts,
alleging discriminationbased on disability and age.
Seven justices backed the schools,
citing what's known as the"ministerial exception".
It is from a 2012 decision that says
the Constitution prevents ministers
from suing their churches foremployment discrimination.
This time, the justicesapplied that principle
to teachers, as well.
- Essentially, they're saying,
the government has no businesstelling a Christian school,
a church, a ministry,whom you hire to teach
and promulgate your faith.
And so, this is a strongvictory for ministries
and churches and schools everywhere.
- [Heather] The court explained,
"When a school with a religiousmission entrusts a teacher
"with the responsibility ofeducating and forming students
"in the faith, judicialintervention into disputes
"between the school and the teacher
"threatens the school'sindependence in a way
"that the First Amendment does not allow."
Dissenting Justice Sonia Sotomayor argued,
"The teachers taughtprimarily secular subjects,
"lacked substantialreligious titles and training
"and were not evenrequired to be Catholic."
Southern Baptist leader Russell Moore
said this newly-expandedministerial exception
sets a precedent for the lower courts.
- We really do have a coherentphilosophy articulated here,
that's rooted in the FirstAmendment in the Constitution,
in legislation such as theReligious Freedom Restoration Act
so I think the Constitutionalpolicy here is very clear.
- [Heather] But questions remainbecause of an earlier case
this session in which the courtredefined sex discrimination
to include sexual orientationand gender identity.
- The court just wentahead and redefined sex.
And that is going to createa secular sexual orthodoxy
that religious institutionsand religious individuals
will probably have tolitigate in the courts
for many years to come.
- [Heather] The two winsfor religious freedom
could also boost the President's standing.
- He can tout the fact
that these were strong majority decisions
which means that he is in the main stream
of American thought,
not just from a public standpoint,
but even at the SupremeCourt when it comes
to these very importantreligious liberty issues.
- But it's only July,and the big question is
what issues will be top ofmind for voters, come November.
Heather Sells, CBN News.
- Well, in other news,wicked weather is on the way,
with powerful storms in the east
and blistering heat in the west.
John Jessup has more on thatstory from our CBN News Bureau.
- That is right, Pat.
A storm brewing in the Atlanticis threatening heavy winds
and rain along the Mid-Atlantic coast,
later into today and overnight.
Meteorologists say the system could become
a tropical depressionand possibly strengthen
into a tropical storm.
It is expected to driftnorth up the coast,
with gusty winds, downpours,and possible flooding,
from North Carolina to New York City.
Meanwhile, a heat wave isset to bake the Southwest
this weekend.
Highs in Las Vegas could top 110 degrees,
in Phoenix it could 115 degrees or higher.
Well, there's some improvementon the jobless front today.
While Americans are stillapplying for unemployment benefits
in the wake of the coronavirus lockdowns,
the new initial joblessclaims came in at 1.3 million.
That's better than expected.
Those numbers come after President Trump
hosted Mexico's presidentat the White House
to celebrate the newly-enacted trade deal
with Canada and Mexico.
On CBN's Faith Nation program,
economist Stephen Moore said
the President can help the economy
by ending the policy ofgiving unemployed workers
$600 a week on top of existingunemployment benefits.
- Three out of four workerstoday are getting more money
for not working than working.
Not only is that unfair tothe people that are working,
but also we estimate that wewill have 10 million fewer jobs
by the end of the yearif we extend that policy.
So President Trump, if you'relistening to this show,
do not expand those unemployment benefits.
Give everybody a payroll tax cut.
That helps workers and itdoesn't hurt businesses.
- Moore was a Trumpcampaign advisor in 2016.
Well, for the fifth time in nine days,
the nation set a new recordin coronavirus cases,
topping 60,000 on Wednesday.
At least five states setrecords for new infections.
California and Texas sawa record number of deaths
in one day.
At a coronavirus taskforce briefing,
Dr. Deborah Birx calledon people in those states
to return to lockdown status.
- As we're really askingthe American people
in those counties and in those states
to not only use the facecoverings, not going to bars,
not going to indoor dining,
but really not gathering in homes either.
- Vice President Mike Pencedelivered some good news,
saying that positive testresults for the virus
show signs of flattening insome of the worst-hit states.
Meanwhile, more and morejurisdictions require people
to wear face masks.
Abigail Robertsonintroduces us to one group
that's trying to make sure
everyone who needs a mask can get one.
- Hayley Gottlieb's15-year-old downtown L.A.
apparel factory was one of many businesses
indefinitely shut down a few months ago,
when it was deemed unessential.
Thankfully for Hayley,
when the L.A. mayor issueda call for mask makers,
SmartTees reopened to answer that call,
for those who can buythe much-needed product
and those who cannot.
- The main goal is just tomask as many people as possible
and to make sure thatthere's nothing in the way
of getting people masks that they need.
- [Abigail] Hayley andher business partner
knew from the get-go,
for every mask they sold,they wanted to donate one too.
But the need for masks was so great
at many community centers,
they wanted to do more.
- They were getting donations for sure,
just not in enough quantity.
- With the help of her friend Dave Stone,
they came up with theMillions of Masks initiative.
- The first thing that struck me was that
once masks were mandated in public,
that people didn't have them.
And a lot of people didn'tknow where to get them.
- [Abigail] When Dave sawthe lines at the foodbank
by his house, he knew hewanted to do something to help.
- I knew that those folks wereprobably gonna need masks,
as well, and so for me, itwas just down the street
from my house.
And the lines at the foodbanksare a little bit longer today
than they were last monthor the month before.
And there's so many people out of work.
You know, at a foodbank,you can't get food
unless you have a mask.
And oftentimes, people arewalking up that foodbank,
and if they don't have a mask,
they can't get the food that they need
to feed themselves or their family.
- [Abigail] M.O.M. works bypeople going to their website
and choosing a city todonate re-usable masks to.
Hayley makes them at cost,
then their nationwidepartners distribute the masks
to those in need in their cities.
- It was really justbuilt out of understanding
that when there's somethinggoing on in the world,
it's better to rush towards that event,
as opposed to run away andhide and not do anything.
- [Abigail] Hayley thinks,for the time being,
masks are here to stay.
- I think even some ofour regular customers,
who we ship normally just fashion apparel,
have been adding masksto their collections.
We think it's going to be around
at least through the end of this year,
possibly into next year.
- Hayley and Dave believe,as people start going back
into their offices andreturning to normal,
it won't just be one maskthey need, but multiple,
as they should be washed after each use.
Reporting from Virginia,Abigail Robertson, CBN News.
- Great story, thanks Abby.
Well, we're rememberingan historic moment today.
It was 35 years ago, today,that our very own Pat Robertson
called for America's Embassy in Israel
to be moved to Jerusalem.
In 1985, speaking to a groupof college students at AIPAC,
Pat said, "Tel Aviv isnot the capital of Israel.
"Jerusalem is the capital of Israel,
"and has been all the wayback to King Solomon."
President Trump movedthe Embassy to Jerusalem
back in May 2018.
Pat.
- It shows me I'm a little prophetic,
but I knew what had to be.
There was such cowardicein the State Department,
they didn't want tooffend the "Arab street"
as they called it.
And they thought therewould be a great uprising.
When Trump did it, therewas no uprising at all.
But it had to be done.
And it was an historic moment.
- I know the voices thatcried out against it, but he--
- We called out a long time ago.
- Well, coming up later...
"No other option".
That's what was told to this man
who had an inoperable brain tumor,
and just one shot to save his life.
What was his last resort?
Well, stay tuned to find out.
And then, up next, it'scalled the "Equality Act",
even though it's anything but equal.
See how this brazen bill is weaponizing
our nation's civilrights laws, after this.
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- A few years ago, therewas a movie entitled,
"Wall Street Money Never Sleeps".
Well, I'll tell you one thing,
the Left never sleeps.
They won't let us havea nice, peaceful summer,
no way, no how.
They're gonna keep bringing it at us.
Every time you turn around,
there's something elsethey're getting ready to do.
And this latest one isgoing to be a shocker.
Redefining sex under federal law.
That's what the SupremeCourt did last month
to protect gays, lesbiansand so-called transgenders.
Now Democrats are pushingto expand those rights
under the so-called "Equality Act".
What is the Equality Act?
Jennifer Wishon reportsthis perilous legislation,
is anything but equal.
- It's called the Equality Act.
Opponents say it's anything but,
arguing it weaponizes thenation's civil rights laws
against Americans who don'tconform to the LGBT agenda.
Emilie Kao, Director of the DeVos Center
for Religion & Civil Societyat the Heritage Foundation
says the bill forces Americans to live
under a new sexual orthodoxy,
one that would be imposedon the country by Uncle Sam.
- It treats the people who believe
that marriage is betweena man and a woman,
that we're created male and female,
it treats our beliefs as theequivalent of racist bigotry.
- [Jennifer] Femaleathletes would be required
to compete with men identifying as women.
Adoption agencies that onlyplace children in homes
with a mom and a dad,
would have to change theway they operate, or close.
Students attending Bible-believing schools
wouldn't be eligible for federal loans.
And that's not all.
- The bill is passed.
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(crowd cheering)
- [Jennifer] TheDemocratic-controlled House
passed the Equality Act last spring,
and last month emboldened Senate Democrats
called it up for unanimous consent
in an effort to expedite the bill.
Only three Republicansspoke out against it.
- No person should bediscriminated against in America.
No one.
- [Jennifer] But Lankfordsays the Equality Act
does just that by elevatingthe rights of LGBT Americans
while dismissing those of Christians
and other people of faith.
And he points out the bill adds the words,
"perception and belief" tothe 1964 Civil Rights Act,
untested language Lankfordpredicts would lead
to a rash of lawsuits across the country.
- If I go to interview ina job, and I'm not hired,
I can sue that employerbecause I "perceive"
they were thinking I was gayand so they didn't hire me.
I don't have to prove anything,
it's based simply on myperception or belief.
- [Jennifer] Opponents also say the bill
completely guts religious liberty
by saying the ReligiousFreedom Restoration Act
that passed Congressoverwhelmingly in 1993,
doesn't apply as a defense,
leaving people of faithwithout any legal recourse.
- No piece of federal legislation,
that has ever been passed,has ever said that.
- [Jennifer] So, what's next?
Democratic presidentialnominee Joe Biden says
he'll make enactment of the Equality Act
during his first 100 daysa top legislative priority.
But while Republicans maintaincontrol of the Senate,
and as long as there'sa filibuster for now,
there doesn't appear tobe 60 votes for the bill
in its current form.
Still, some religiousfreedom advocates say
Republicans can't just keep saying "no".
- How much religious freedom
we end up getting in this space,
whether it's in the courtsor in the legislatures,
is really gonna be dependent
on how much common ground we can find
with people who also veryvigorously support LGBT rights.
- [Jennifer] Just lookat Virginia, he says.
When Democrats took overthe State House this year,
they quickly expanded LGBT protections.
- The only answer social conservatives
or conservative Christians have is "no".
Then, as soon as the Democratic party
takes over a legislature,
their answer becomes "yes".
And their answer becomes "yes"with no religious freedoms.
- [Jennifer] He points toalternatives to the Equality Act
like the Fairness For All Act,
based on a Utah law whichrestores some protections
for Christians, but anumber of lawmakers argue,
"not enough".
And while racial justiceand police reform measures
are front and center now,
the Equality Act is a toppriority for Democrats
who will quickly pass it,
if or when they're given a clear path.
Jennifer Wishon, CBN News.
- That's staring into your future,
unless you do something about it.
As I say, they never stop.
They never stop pushing.
How do we counter it?
Well, we talk about the family,
but that Religious RestorationAct passed overwhelmingly
and almost every singlestate opted against
the gay marriage bills.
And yet, the Supreme Court overturned it.
It's a mess.
But, what's gonna happen to our country
if we let that continue?
It'll be such a confused mess.
And before long, arighteous God will do to us
what happened to Sodom and Gomorrah.
We don't want that to happen.
We don't want to have happen
what happened to those old civilizations
that have gone down the tube.
This is the greatest nationon the face of the earth,
but we can't do it if weviolate God's law continuously.
And that seems to bewhat is in the forefront
of these radicals.
And they talk about theprogressives are pushing Biden
and the Democratic party to the Left,
and there's a whole lot of stuff.
This is only one of theitems in their agenda.
It'll be free education for everybody,
it'll be all sorts of lawsdealing with free healthcare,
free everything, open the borders to all
who want to come in.
I mean, it'll be a mess.
This country that wehave loved for so long,
will be not be recognizable,
if we allow these things to continue.
But let me tell you,it's like a steamroller,
and you can't go to sleep and say,
"This is vacation time."
There is going to be no vacation,
for these people, theywill be hammering away
until they get their will.
It's going to be a fight to the finish.
Terry.
- Well, up next...
A jaw-dropping discovery.
An MRI revealed this manhad a hole in his brain.
His neurosurgeon wasabsolutely floored by it.
So how did this shocking newsturn out to be good news?
Plus...
Jesus Culture founderBanning Liebscher invites you
to walk not one mile inhis shoes, but three.
He'll join us live.
That's just ahead.
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Six years ago, Stan Landerwas given six months to live.
A malignant tumor wasgrowing in his brain,
and doctors said it was inoperable.
That meant Stan and hiswife had only one option.
What was it?
Well, you're about to find out.
- I couldn't talk, and Iwould try to verbalize things,
and it was just like I had no voice.
- [Narrator] This was thesecond time in two months
that Stan Lander feltthe strange sensation.
- I asked him a question,and he didn't answer,
so I looked at him and askedagain, and didn't respond.
- [Narrator] This time, helistened to his wife Aleta,
and went to his doctor,who sent him for an MRI.
It revealed a mass on his brain.
- We were just praying,"Lord, whatever this is,
"we give it to you, we knowthat you're the Healer."
- [Narrator] The couplehad no idea just how much
he would need God's healing.
After more testing, doctors concluded Stan
had a malignant brain tumor,
known as primary CNS lymphoma.
It was rare, and inStan's case, inoperable.
- It was a death sentence.
When he says, "You're lookingat three to six months",
I was thinking, "Is this really my life?
"This isn't the scriptthat I've been living.
"This isn't the way thatthings are gonna end.
"They're not going to."
- There's a lot of fearthat wants to grip.
You can't go there, you just can't.
It's like, "Okay, howare we gonna do this?"
And we really said, "God is our only hope.
"There is no other option."
- [Narrator] That Sunday in church,
the Landers asked for prayer.
- You go back and yourecount those testimonies,
where God's come through.
So, even in the midstof that dire prognosis,
you know, we knew thatGod was still for us,
and He had a plan for our life.
- [Narrator] Later, theywent for a second opinion
with a respected Seattle neurosurgeon
known in the community as Dr. Lao,
but the report was the same.
- I agreed with the first neurosurgeon
that this most likely was tumor or cancer.
And I said that, "From aneurosurgical point of view,
"we cannot do anything much."
- [Narrator] Dr. Lao is also a pastor.
- So the only option leftwas to believe in the miracle
that God can heal him.
- He said, "Can I pray for you?"
I've never had a doctorpray for me before.
And here, Dr. Lao was praying for me.
I felt the healing ofhis prayers, that night.
- Narrator] By now, ithad been seven weeks
since the first MRI, andas a matter of protocol,
Dr. Lao ordered another.
Everyone the couple knew,including Dr. Lao's church,
continued praying for a miracle.
- From the human pointof view, it's hopeless.
But we don't walk bysight, we walk by faith.
- [Pat On TV] The Lord isgiving you a spirit of praise...
- [Narrator] Then, a weekbefore the follow-up MRI,
Stan and Aleta were watching The 700 Club.
- [Pat On TV] And takingaway that heaviness.
- [Terry On TV] There's someone else,
you've been diagnosed with a brain tumor.
It's not a question ofwhether you have it or not,
it's there.
You question whether Godcan heal such a thing.
Today, God is setting you free.
He's totally healing that tumor.
It'll just disappear.
- We look at each other and go,
"That's for me!"
(laughing)
And it was more than icing on the cake,
it was like that sealed it.
It's a done deal.
- So it was just a confirmation
that, yes, you don't need to worry.
- It just contributedto our hope and faith.
- [Narrator] Supported byprayers and hearts full of hope,
Stan went for his MRI.
A week later, they met withDr. Lao for the results.
- There was a sense thatthis is the MRI that counts.
This is the one that'sgonna tell the story,
one way or another.
- This is the one that,when you see the picture,
your jaw drops.
- Dr. Lao came in and said,
"There's a hole in thebrain where the tumor was!
"There's a hole in the brain!"
- We saw the white stuffhere, it's all gone,
become a cavity.
- Isn't a hole in thebrain still a bad thing?
And he says, "No, it's scar tissue.
"It's gone, it's completely gone!"
- I wanted to shout it from the rooftops
until everybody in sight got healed.
(laughing)
He performed a miracle.
- We just were laughing and crying
and it was just...
It was a fabulous moment.
- [Narrator] Ever sincethat day in November 2014,
Stan has been the picture of health,
with no signs or symptoms of brain cancer.
- I have seen so manysupernatural healings in my life.
So, that's why I believe.
- It just leaves me in awe
of God's goodness, of His love for us.
I have learned not tohesitate to pray for people,
because God just might heal them,
and there's a good possibility of it.
- God is so faithful.
He's just so faithful.
- God is good, He'sfaithful, and He's able.
You know, in circumstances that doctors
don't have answers for, God is so able.
Here's another amazing report
to encourage peoplebefore we pray for them.
This is Lucia.
"In 2016", she said, "I wasdiagnosed with B-Cell Lymphoma,
"a disease of the blood.
"I had treatment for two years.
"Since then, I have had check-ups,
"and my blood levels have stabilized.
"Last March, I was watching The 700 Club,
"and Pat had a word of knowledge.
"He said, 'This is the day of miracles.
"Someone by the name of Luciawho has a blood disease,
"God is healing that now'.
"On my next visit to the doctor,
"he said my blood was perfect.
"I know the word was for me.
"I am healed!"
That's another miracle.- I didn't know Lucia,
but God knew her.- Amen.
- And here's one, Mikewho lives in Chicago.
Mike had suffered greatly with his neck,
and he was watching our programon June 26 of this year.
That's just...
- [Terry] A few weeksago, a couple weeks ago.
- [Pat] And Terry said,
"You have a condition in the top part
"of your spine where itconnects to your brainstem..."
Do you remember anything about that?
- [Terry] I do remember that.
- [Pat] "Your shoulders are locked up,
"your neck is lockedup, you have headaches.
"God is setting you free."
And Mike says, "It's me, and I'm healed."
- [Terry] Praise the Lord.
- [Pat] Isn't that marvelous?
- [Terry] Yes, for Mike,it's more than marvelous.
- God wants to do somethingfor you right now.
God is able.
"With men it's impossible", Jesus said,
"but with God all things are possible."
All things are possible.
So don't say it can't come.
"I've had this thing forever."
Uhn-uh.
We're gonna join hands.
Father, in Jesus' name,
we believe God right now.
We ask you Lord thatyou would do a miracle.
God's putting His hand overyour shoulders, both shoulders.
I don't know whether you've got scoliosis,
or something like that,
but God is healing it.
The shoulders, everything,are straightening out,
in the name of Jesus.
You'll just feel likeGod's hand is on you.
In Jesus' name, touch 'em.
Terry.
- There's someone named Linda.
I don't know your condition.
But this is what I feel you're to know.
You've been diagnosedwith some serious things.
And you've just kind of accepted it
as just a part of life.
God is healing your conditions right now.
You are being made completely whole,
and everything botheringyou is healed, now.
- Thank you, Lord.
The power of God ismanifesting itself right now,
in the life of many peoplein this audience, right now.
Again, there's a spine.
I don't know if you received it before,
or whether it's somebody else,
but (indistinguished)your spine all the way up.
It'll feel like pop-pop-pop-pop-pop,
and that whole spine is straightening out.
Everything is straight,in the name of Jesus!
- Paula, the thing that you're praying for
is in the process ofbeing answered right now.
Believe for it, contend forit, stand for it, expect it,
in Jesus' name.
- I believe the one I wasthinking about, his name's Jerome.
But take it, in Jesus' name.
And may the power of God toucheveryone in this audience.
Receive God's power inyour life, in Jesus' name.
Amen.- Amen.
- Phew, wow!
Give us a call, by the way.
We love to hear from you.
It's 1-800-700-7000.
If you need further prayer,
somebody's there on the phone.
Just pick up the phone.
No money involved, you just call in.
Somebody will pray for you.
Okay?
- Well, coming up...
A YouTube favorite.
Your questions and Pat's honest answers.
Diana says, "My kids are grown
"and most of my grandchildren also.
"I have friends that havethings they focus on,
"and I just feel lost!
"What is wrong with me?"
Stay tuned for Pat's answer,
plus "The Three-Mile Walk".
What is it?
And how can it help you?
Jesus Culture founder BanningLiebscher has the answers
for us, later on today's show.
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- Welcome back to Washingtonfor this CBN Newsbreak.
George Floyd toldMinneapolis police officers
he couldn't breathe, more than 20 times
in the eight minutes before he died.
All the while, the officerwho pressed his knee
into Floyd's neck, dismissed those pleas,
saying, quote, "It takes a heckof a lot of oxygen to talk."
That's according to transcriptsof the body camera video
which was released Wednesday.
The transcripts provide themost detailed account yet
of what happened when Floyddied in police custody,
back in late May.
Well, Attorney General Bill Barr says
he believes black Americansare treated differently
by police than other people.
He made those remarks inan interview with ABC News.
- You know, I do think thatit is a widespread phenomenon
that African-American males,particularly, are treated
with extra suspicion and maybe not given
the benefit of the doubt.
- The Attorney General saidthe issue needs to be addressed
but he opposes the defundingthe police movement.
Well, you can always getthe latest from CBN News
by going to our website at CBNNEWS.COM.
Pat and Terry will be backwith more of The 700 Club,
right after this.
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Banning Liebscher was just 25 years old
when he started what becamethe international phenomenon
known as Jesus Culture.
Today, he continues hispassion to see people thriving
in every area of their lives.
Take a look.
- [Narrator] BanningLiebscher is a popular pastor,
speaker, and author.
He founded Jesus Culture in 1999,
at Bethel Church in Redding, California,
a ministry of worship, conferences
and leadership development.
Banning says that manybelievers are discontent
sensing there's more to the Christian life
than they're experiencing.
- My heart as a pastor isto come alongside people,
and encourage them to engage the call
that God has on their life.
- [Narrator] In Banning's newest book,
"The Three-Mile Walk", he explains how
to live the life God wants for you.
- Please welcome to The700 Club Banning Liebscher.
Banning, welcome, it'snice to have you with us.
- It's so great to be with you.
Thanks for having me on.
- I love the book.
You, in your role as a youth pastor
and then as initiatorof the Jesus Culture,
and your internationaltravels and conferences,
say that many Christians arediscontented with their lives.
Why is that?
- My heart, really as a pastor,
which I've been doing for 25 years now,
is to really come alongside people
and have them experience the fullness
that God has for them.
And I really think thefullness that God has for them
is connected to saying "yes" to the call
of God on your life.
And that ultimately, every single believer
has a call on your life.
And you have a call to be someone,
and a call to do something.
God's trying to shape you andmold you to look like Jesus,
and he's asking you to partner with Him,
in His plans and purposes in the earth.
So I think that we findourselves dissatisfied
when we're not actually engaging the call
that God has on us.
- Well, you have apassion to inspire people
to thrive in their faith.
So, recognizing your callcan happen from day to day,
as you move along in yourrelationship with God.
What do we need to do to cometo that place of thriving?
- Obviously, I think theChristian life is one big "yes".
Like, you would just say "yes" to Jesus,
and all that He's asking of you.
And I think, as you take thisjourney, I think you're right.
As we walk with Jesus,what's He asking of us?
What's He wanting to do in my life?
Am I paying attention to those things?
Like, am I on the journey with Jesus,
and paying attention to the things
that He's wanting to do in my life,
and He's wanting to do through my life?
And I think when we positionour life to walk with Him,
and to be obedient, and topay attention to the things
that are in my heart, towhat He's asking of me,
I really think that's theplace where we kind of find
that thriving and that abundance.
- I love the Old Testament storythat you use as a blueprint
sort of, throughout whatyou write in the book.
It's the story of Jonathan,and his armor-bearer.
And tell us what thesignificance of that story
should be for us, as believers.
- Well, you know how there'scertain stories in scripture
that just kind of resonatewith you from early on?
This is one of them.
And it's this incredible picture--
You know, if you grew up in church at all,
you'll know the story ofJonathan as armor-bearer,
how he goes to take on the Philistines.
But it's a picture,actually, of this contrast
between Jonathan and his dad, King Saul.
And King Saul is content to sit
underneath the pomegranate tree,
looking at a distance to the Philistines.
But Jonathan, something awakenedin the heart of Jonathan
where he just said, "I'm notcontent to sit any longer.
"I am going to get upand I'm going to engage
"what God's called us to.
"I'm going to move forward."
And so, the reason why it'scalled "The Three-Mile Walk",
is that the Israelites were on one hill,
and the Philistines were on the other,
and in between that,geographically, it's a valley.
And it's three miles.
It's a three-mile valleythat Jonathan had to go on.
So, when Jonathan said,
"Yes, I'm going to get up and move forward
"in what God's called me to",
he started a three-milewalk to engage that.
And so much stuff is neededon the three-mile walk
that we unpack.
But that's why I love this story,
because it shows Saul and the army
who were somehow contentto sit from a distance
and look at their destiny, and Jonathan,
who I really believe God put adivine dissatisfaction in him
that said, "I don't want to sit anymore.
"I want to get up and go."
- I believe it's sucha story for us, today,
as believers in the worldthat we are living in.
But you talk about three characteristics
that are necessary for us to develop
so that we can live the lifethat God intended for us,
the call that you suggest.
Would you talk aboutthose characteristics?
- We kind of put them as threemiles, since it worked out.
But it's holiness, courage and faith.
My heart was to reallyre-look at holiness again.
Holiness is the first call on our life.
We are called to be set apart.
If you're going to engagethe call of God on your life,
you have to engage holiness.
But try to unpack that a little bit more.
It's a relational concept.
I grew up in an environment
where it was a list of do's and don'ts
and it was more don'ts than do's,
rather than this relationship with Jesus.
And then just courage and faith.
The reality is, and foranybody who's got up
and gone after Jesus andgoing after the call of God,
what you find quickly is that it takes
a massive, massive amount of courage.
It takes a huge amount of courage
to do what God's calling you to do,
both to become who He'scalling you to become,
and to do what He's calling you to do.
And so, my heart is just to come alongside
and put courage inside of people,
and just to really tell them,
"Listen, the enemy comesto dis-courage you."
He's trying to disarm you of your courage.
And so, we have to position our lives
to live full of courage and encouraged,
if we're going to walk this journey out.
- And, in the end, the goal of course,
is to walk in the callof God on your life.
Do you think most people todayhave a sense of what that is?
- That's a good question.
I can't talk for everybody,
but I think a lot ofpeople are not fully aware
of what God's called them to.
I talk about in the book,even dreaming again,
really allowing yourself to dream.
How do know what God's calling you to?
How do you pay attention to this thing?
The world is so busy right now.
And I think we've got ourattention on so many other things,
that if we can just stop long enough,
get our internal world healthy,
and pay attention towhere God's leading us.
We say all the time thatwe're Spirit-led believers
but many times, I'm like, I don't know
if we're Spirit-led believers.
I think we're just busy-led believers.
I think we're just chaos-ledbelievers and distracted.
So my heart is really just to say,
"Listen, you're gonna bemost alive, most thriving,
"when you're followingJesus on this journey
"of engaging your call."
- Well, you outline it so beautifully
in "The Three-Mile Walk".
What believer doesn't want to walk
in the kingdom purposesthat God has for them?
And one of the thingsBanning says in his book,
"The Three-Mile Walk"is, "This is everybody."
There's nobody that is following Jesus
that shouldn't and doesn'thave a call on their life.
So be sure you don't waste time,
without finding out what your call is.
This book is a greatway to walk that path.
And Banning, we thank you so much.
It's really been wonderfulto have you with us today.
- Thank you for having me on.
- I want to say, by theway, "The Three-Mile Walk"
is available wherever books are sold.
Well, still ahead, we'vegot your email questions,
and Pat's got some honest answers.
Linda says, "Please explain howthe word of knowledge works.
"How do you know that you willreceive it when you pray?"
Good question.
The answer's coming up.
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And you're about to see why.
- [Narrator] Andrew and hiswife Bridgette love to give.
- There are specific lawsthat God requires of us.
And so, 10% in our householdis just a regular thing.
- Giving is the mostfun time of the month.
I get to finally sit down and say, "Yes!
"Who am I gonna give this to?"
- [Narrator] Andrew is asuccessful investment manager
who started tithing whenhe got his first job at 21.
He later discovered thatthere's a correlation
between what he was givingand what he was making.
- So I just experimented.
Let's see what happenswhen we go from, like say,
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And my income doubled that year.
I never forgot that.
- [Narrator] For Bridgette,
it wasn't until she married Andrew in 2009
that she made tithing a priority.
She says it didn't takelong for her to realize
what she had been missing.
- God has blessed us so immensely,
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- [Narrator] Their favoriteCBN ministry is Superbook.
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- Superbook might be CBN'smost important ministry.
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- Joy and Chris and Gizmo,combined with the Superbook,
the biblical side of it, hashelped the kids understand
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- [Narrator] The Reillys give
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Cause it isn't for you.
- Giving is the only timewhere money leaving the account
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It leaves me, goes to someone else,
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and it's a great feeling,it's a great privilege.
- You know, as long as thatdollar stays in your wallet,
it's going to just stay thereall by its little lonesome.
But if you take it andput it in God's hands,
then suddenly, it begins to multiply.
God's got a wonderfulsystem where He says,
"Prove me with your tithes and offerings,
"if I won't open the windows of Heaven,
"and pour you out such ablessing, you cannot contain it."
Now that's what the Bible says.
I personally practice that, believe it.
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- Time for some questions, you ready?
- Let's go for questions.
- Okay, this is Diana, who says,
"My kids are grown and mostof my grandchildren also.
"My husband's job keeps him very busy.
"I have friends that havethings they focus on,
"and I just feel lost!
"What is wrong with me?
"I used to have passion about things
"but there is always a conflictwithin that drives me away."
- You want to have some fun,
start asking God for something unusual,
and believe God for it.
Really step out and begin to believe God.
Pray, "Like, Lord, Ipray for..." whatever,
the potholes in the front ofmy apartment to be filled,
or I pray for social justice,
or I pray that I might have a job.
And watch what God will do.
Just begin to talk to Him,
and you'll find there's anexcitement you could not believe.
Okay.
- This is Linda who says,
"Please explain how theword of knowledge works.
"It seems that every time you pray,
"you receive words of knowledge.
"How do you know you'llreceive them when you pray?"
- Well, you don't.
(laughing)
If you read about theenablements of the Holy Spirit,
the word of knowledge is one of them.
It's something that doesn'tcome through the senses.
It's something given by God.
It's not some psychic thing or anything.
But God will speak to us about somebody,
and actually give us a name.
And how do you know?
By reason of use.
There's no way you canstart unless you just do it.
By reason of use the senses are exercised,
that you can discern good from evil.
So that's how.
The Apostle Paul said,"Desire the better gifts,
"especially that you might prophesy."
So ask God for more andHe'll give it to you.
- This is Eric who says,
"Why do so many people,including The 700 Club,
"reference scripture in the Old Testament,
"especially Psalms?
"I thought after the resurrection,
"only scripture in the NewTestament had an effect on us
"and was relevant to our lives."
- One day I was praying andI started reading Isaiah 58,
and it said, "Is not thisthe fast that I've chosen,
"that you might deal yourbread to the hungry",
and so forth.
And then it said, "When you do this,
"your light's gonna shine speedily,
"and the glory of the Lordwill be your rear guard,
"and you will call andGod will answer you."
And I said, "Man, that'sthe Old Testament,
"but I want it, I don't care what it is."
That's how we started Operation Blessing.
And we've probably given out
about two to three billions dollars.
We're helping about 300 millionpeople around the world.
But it all started with the fact
that there was somethingin the Old Testament.
The Bible was given by God.
And not all of it is relevant.
The dietary laws are not relevant,
some of the other restrictions aren't.
And the one thing is
"Do unto others as you wouldhave them do unto you."
But nevertheless, there'scertain moral principles
that are still normativefor everybody, all right?
- This is Virginia who says, "Hi Pat.
"For a long time, I've been in favor
"of one, six-year term for our presidents.
"It would reduce the yearsof wasteful campaigning,
"the huge spending, and itwould give some breathing room
"for a president andcongress to actually get
"some important legislation accomplished.
"With your knowledge ofgovernment and politics,
"what do you think?"
- This whole thing hasbeen debated quite a bit.
When our country wasfounded, there was no limit.
A president could run for four years,
and then he could runagain for another four
and another four.
Roosevelt was in for four terms,
and the people said that'sjust too much of Roosevelt.
But he was so popular thatthey just kept keeping him in.
So we had a change in policy
that you could only have two terms.
In Virginia, we have a one-term deal,
which doesn't work too badly.
He's in for four years,and then he's out of there.
But at the same time,they get to be lame ducks
the last year or so of the administration.
But, you know, six years, why?
And again, Congress, especially the House,
doesn't want to getpeople going after them,
so they've limited these terms.
Their term is two years and off again.
And the Senate didn't wantto let them do anything more
because the Senators don'twant the House members
running against them.
There's a lot of confusion.
But I don't think sixyears is a good thing.
We've got four.
A guy can come in for a secondterm, period, end of story.
That's pretty good, all right?
- Well, that's pretty much allthe time we have for today.
Give you any more, it's gonna take us
over the top of the hour.
- Well, I was looking forward to more.
Thank you for your questions.
I hope I answered them, as best we can.
And thank you so much for being with us.
Today's Power Minute is from the Psalm 68:
"Blessed be the Lord, whodaily loads us with benefits."
Well, tomorrow, "the talk".
What is it?
Why do black parentshave this conversation
with their sons?
Well, you'll find outon tomorrow's 700 Club.
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thank you for being with us.
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