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The 700 Club - May 12, 2020

Joshua and Elizabeth took a step of faith and moved across the country. But they soon found they could barely afford to live. Following a financial principle and praying for a miracle, an amazing thing happened. Find out what it was. Read Transcript


- [Announcer] The following program

is sponsored by CBN.

- [Gordon] Coming up,behind on their bills.

- Josh kept trying to get jobs

and no jobs were coming.

- [Gordon] And down totheir last few dollars.

- [Josh] I was stressedout most of the time.

- [Gordon] See how this couplegot a financial miracle.

- We knew, like you honor God first

and then he'll takecare of everything else.

- [Gordon] Twice.

- [Liz] Miracles just kept coming.

- [Josh] It was a direct answer to prayer.

- On today's 700 Club.

(grand music)

Well welcome to the 700 Club

and thanks for joining us.

Well, frustrated Americans

just want to get back to work

and many of them are doing just that,

even though it meansdefying stay at home orders.

- As more and more states move to reopen,

they're weighing therisk to people's lives

with the risk to their livelihoods.

Charlene Aaron as the story.

- In some states, peopleare back on the job,

even in defiance of state orders.

It's a growing move assome Americans argue

the government has overstepped its bound.

77-year-old Michigan barber Karl Manki.

has become a symbol of resistance

for many people.

After defying Governor GretchenWhitmer's lockdown orders.

Considered by many in hisstate to be too restrictive.

In business for 60 years, hewon a court victory Monday

in his fight to stay open.

Supporters cheered Mankeoutside his shop during

a press conference after a judge denied

the state's request to sign

a temporary restrainingorder against the barber

and granted him a hearing.

- One week ago today, I made a decision

that I was going to open my barber shop.

There's an old serenity prayer.

That serenity prayer says,"God grant me the serenity

"to accept the things I cannot change,

"the courage to change the things I can

"and the wisdom to know the difference."

And I took the courage part of that.

- [Charlene] Mankereopened his shop on May 4,

violating the Governor's executive order

for non-essentialbusinesses to remain closed

and was given a cease and desist order.

- You know, I had gone sixweeks without a paycheck

with no money coming in.

I've always worked.

I've never looked for handouts.

I don't even know what they are.

I had somebody call me and say,

"Well, why didn't you get on food stamps?"

Well, you know, I don't want food stamps.

I wanna work.

- [Charlene] Manke sayshe's never seen anything

like the government regulations during

the COVID-19 pandemic.

- I've gone through 14different administrations

and I've never seenanything like this at all.

- [Charlene] Mankeisn't alone in Michigan.

A county sheriff sayshis office won't enforce

Governor Whitmer's stayat home order intended

to stop the spread of the coronavirus

because the state legislaturedidn't approve her extension.

And across the country,

Americans are going back to work,

often despite stay at home orders.

In Texas, a Dallas salon owner continues

to get support from thestate's top Republicans

after being released from jail last week.

Shelley Luther was fined and sentenced

to seven days in jailfor violating an order

to shut her business duringthe COVID-19 outbreak.

Senator Ted Cruz recently sat down

for a trim at Luther's salon ala mode.

In Pennsylvania, some arealso moving ahead regardless

of the governor's plans.

Frustrated residents say they're ready

to get back to work.

- This is wrong in every single level.

And the collateral damageis gonna be far worse.

- I don't think it's a matter of

the Governor giving me the right.

I think it's an inalienable right.

- [Charlene] And the state at the center

of the coronavirus outbreak, New York,

taking its first steps towards reopening,

but no major changes until June.

- It's an exciting new phase.

We're all anxious to get back to work.

- [Charlene] And for now, a growing number

of Americans worriedabout the economic damage

from the lockdowns say it'stime to go back to work.

Charlene Aaron, CBN News.

- Well, the pandemic is going to make

some very interesting law,

but it's also making some veryinteresting cultural trends.

I never thought there would be

a black market in hairdressers.

You know, who's going to people's homes

and, you know, that being distributed.

If you want your hair done at home,

here's how you can get it to happen.

I think a lot of peopleare supporting Karl

and his efforts.

He's just trying to get a paycheck.

He's just trying to get some work.

He doesn't wanna go ongovernment assistance.

He wants to do it on his own.

But here's what's going to happen.

The courts are going to finally grapple

with in a pandemic, inthis kind of environment,

what are the limits of the government?

Can the governmenttruly take your business

without due process?

What does the government have to show

on a case by case basis?

That gets us into a wholelist of government lawsuits

in order to enforce these kinds of rules.

And then you get into the Constitution.

One of the rights we rarely hear about,

it's in the First Amendment,is the right to assembly

and that is going to betested in these COVID-19 days.

What is our right as citizens

to assemble and in whatcontext can we assemble.

Those are going to bevery interesting cases

and we'll keep you posted on all the news.

Well, in other news, Dr. Anthony Fauci

has issued a stern warning about the risk

of reopening states too soon.

John Jessup has that story

from our CBN News Bureauin Washington, John?

- Thanks, Gordon.

Dr. Fauci testifies ata Senate hearing today,

but he and other top health officials

will be there by video link going

into self-quarantine aftera White House staffer

tested positive for the virus.

Fauci laid out some key points

in a statement to the New York Times,

again saying officials should stick

to the federal guidelinesfor gradually reopening

and that if we skip over the checkpoints

and the guidelines,then we risk the danger

of multiple outbreaksthroughout the country,

adding that it would result

in needless suffering and death.

Today's hearing comes asthe coronavirus death count

has now passed 80,000.

Well, another major battle coming

this week here in Washington,

Senate Republicans aregiving the thumbs down

to an upcoming plan by House Democrats

for a massive new coronavirus relief bill.

It aimed at helping the economy hit hard

by virus lockdowns andincludes financial aid

for state and local governments,

assistance for mortgage and rent,

more cash payments to American,

help for the post office and more.

The cost is expected torun into the trillions

of dollars again.

One Republican senatorcalled it a fairy tale,

a liberal wish list.

Well, who should decide who gets

to teach or preach a religion's doctrines?

The faith institution or the government?

That question went beforethe Supreme Court Monday.

The case involves the firingof a fifth grade teacher

by a California Catholic school.

She wants the governmentto be the final judge.

The school insists the government

should have no say in the matter at all.

Paul Strand brings us that story.

- Courts have already ruledthat religious bodies alone

have the power to decide about

the hiring and firing of clergy.

In this case, the school,

Our Lady of Guadalupe argues

religious teachers also minister,

so the government should be kept away

from their hiring and firing.

- The doctrine is theministerial exception

and the question is does it apply

to who teaches religionat religious schools?

- [Paul] Becket attorney Eric Rassbach

argued the point to thejustice not in the chamber,

but over the phone.

- [Eric] Their job, number one,

and the overriding commitment was to teach

these kids to become Catholic

and to believe in the Catholic faith.

- [Paul] One objection fromJustice Ruth Bader-Ginsburg

was that religiousemployers would get away

without having to follow important laws.

- [Ruth] The breath of theexemption is staggering.

That is, these people are exempt

from all anti-discrimination laws.

- [Jeffrey] The school'sargument would strip

more than 300,000 lay teachers

in religious schools across the country

of basic employment law protection.

- [Paul] The school'sattorney argued government

should not be allowed to interfere

with those who minister faith.

The school's defenders pointed out

in a brief to the courthow the laid off teacher

in this case was like a minister.

She taught daily religion classes

covering core Catholic doctrine,

the sacraments and how to read the Bible.

She led daily and spontaneous prayers

with and for her students.

- You're teaching the religion more than

they get to spend timewith the parish priest,

you're a minister of the faith.

- [Paul] Verm urges all religious leaders

to be concerned about the fate

of the ministerial exception.

- The right of religious schools

to choose who passes on the faith

to the next generation is important

to all faiths and if the government

can dictate who teaches the faith,

then they can decide whatis being taught, as well.

- Strick constitutionalists interpret

the First Amendment as being all about

keeping government fromcontrolling religion.

And they say that's what'sat stake in this case,

keeping the hands of thestate off the church.

Paul Strand, CBN News, Washington.

- Gordon, your thoughts onthe ministerial exception

for teachers at religious schools?

- Well, I'm in favor of it.

I think there is a freeexercise of religion clause

in our Constitution and the Bill of Rights

and so under that free exercise,

the denomination, the church has

the ability to freely exercise this.

But here are some of the facts

that may change your opinion on it.

What's being alleged by the teacher,

she was fired based on age discrimination

and the response back we don't know

the real reason or what's going on.

The school is saying we don't have

to give you a reason.

You're a minister andwe're making a decision

and that's just the way it is.

And so now we're in the Supreme Court

without full facts.

We'll see where it goes.

I know where JusticeGinsburg's going to vote,

but we'll see what themajority does, Terry?

- Well, still ahead, sweet dreams.

Se how a pair of dreams helped

this couple triple their income.

But first are we seeinga new great awakening.

Nicky Gumbel shares why Christianity

is thriving during the pandemic,

even as churches shut down.

(upbeat music)

- Well, thriving online.

Many churches are seeing record numbers

for virtual Sundayservices and small groups.

Our next guest believespeople are more open

to hearing God's wordduring the COVID pandemic

than ever before, take a look.

- [Reporter] Nicky Gumbel is the pioneer

of Alpha International and vigor

of Holy Trinity Bromton in London,

one of the UnitedKingdom's largest churches.

Gumbel has authored a number

of bestselling book, including

"Questions of Life" and "Why Jesus."

Since Gumbel has startedrunning the Alpha course

in the early 90s, he'stransformed a program

initially aimed at just new Christians

to one reaching people outside the church

wanting to explore the Christian faith.

- My own exposure to the church

up until this point hadbeen 31 years of atheism

and then within a matterof four or five weeks,

some things started happening

that made me start to reconsider.

- [Reporter] Since HTB movedtheir Alpha course online

during the pandemic,

participation is up nearly 400 percent.

- Well, Nicky Gumbel now joins

us now virtually from London.

Nicky, welcome to the 700 Club.

- Hi, Gordon, nice to see you again.

- It's good to see you.

It's been a long time sincewe had spaghetti together

in your home.

Tell us a little bit about what numbers

you're seeing in your Alpha course now

that it's moved online.

- Yeah, well, Alpha is an opportunity

for people outside the church

to explore faith and it's running

right across the U.S. andright across the world.

And since we moved online,

we've found just so manymore people are coming.

So like we, it runs inthousands of churches

across the UK, but werun it in our own church

and normally we get 5or 600 people coming,

but this time, we weren't even due

to start until tomorrow night,

but because of the pandemic,

we started straight off whenthe last course finished.

And we ran it morning and evening

and we started a new course every week.

And already we've had over 1,600 people,

1,600 guests coming.

And so what happens is we have a talk,

it's an Alpha film series, it's a video

that they watch and thenwe go into small groups

and so we are, I don'tknow how many groups,

we must be like 150 small groups now.

In our small group, when we went round

like saying why are you here,

everyone was here because of the virus,

so they would say thishas made me think more,

or I've got more time orsimply I couldn't have come

if it hadn't been online.

For example, we've got a young mother,

most of the guests on Alpha are aged

between 18 and 35, 75 percent of guests,

median age is 27.

But this is a young mother,

she's got two young children,aged two and three months.

I just couldn't get toit if it wasn't online.

So it's really interesting

that I think a large number of people

who would never have come to explore faith

are coming to explore faith.

- Are you multiple languages

or is this just in English right now?

- It's in pretty much everylanguage in the world.

It's in every country in the world

and in every language in the world.

- Well, if people watching right now

want to join in, how do they get it?

How do they get information about it?

- You go to alpha.org andit will tell you there

where courses are running,

how you can get the material.

It's basically, it's like a 10-week course

with a weekend.

The weekend we'll have todo on a Saturday morning,

we're doing it this Saturdaymorning in 2-1/2 hours.

But we're happy to adjust it.

But what's interesting isthat it's working even better.

I never, I always said I didn't think

the Alpha online would ever work,

but it's one of the many occasions

where I've been proved absolutely wrong.

It works better online.

And there are a number,this is so fascinating.

What we discovered is, first of all,

it's easier for people to get there.

You know, we've got twoMuslims in our group.

It would be hard for themto walk into a church.

It's much easier.

People are more relaxed.

They're sitting at homewith their cup of coffee

and their own surroundings.

There's no travel time.

So it runs from 7:30 to nine.

And they're so much more open.

Again, that amazed me.

I thought that if people were online,

rather than being in the room,

they'd be less open, but in fact,

for some reason they're more open.

The very first nightpeople were saying things

that you'd probably have to wait till

week four or five normallyfor people to open up

about issues in their life.

For example, I've beenpart of Narcotics Anonymous

or that kind of thing which people take

a little bit of time to reveal.

Right from the very early weeks,

they were talking about these things.

And the connection is greater.

I think it helps beingon a kind of Zoom call

because you can see people's names.

And so, you know, we'veplayed games in the past,

like the name game to try

and learn each other's names.

No one's ever confident enough to use it.

Now they say oh, as Chris was saying

and so this conversationis really kind of personal.

It's in depth and theother thing that's happened

is because people have got time.

Like the first week thetalk is who is Jesus.

The second week the talk is who is Jesus

and we advertise likeserious Christianity.

Now I don't know how often people

would read a book likethat in an oral course.

From this course, one of the guests said,

"Oh, yeah, I read that book by C.S. Lewis

"and C.S. Lewis makes thisargument about Jesus."

A couple of weeks later someone said,

"Oh, I read this bookcalled, The Case for Christ.

"and it says this," and someone will say,

"oh, that's interesting, willyou put it up in the chat?"

And so people say, "Oh,well, I'd like to read that."

So, people are makingso much more progress

in the early weeks thanI think I've ever seen

on an Alpha group.

And also we've only hadone person drop out,

so there are actually 16 people include

the hosts and helpers in our small group.

And again, to haveretained so many people,

like we're week seven tomorrow

and then we do the weekend this Saturday

and then there'll be anotherthree weeks after that.

But there's a higher attention rate.

So, I'm just trying towork out why is this

that Alpha online works even better

than Alpha in person.

This is my 90th Alpha small group in a row

because I've been doingit for 30 years now,

three times a year.

And every group is amazing.

But I have to say thisis the first one online

and I have to say, it's oneof the most amazing groups

we've ever had.

- Well, it's great to see you excited.

I'm actually surprised it's working better

'cause one of the signatures of Alpha

has been that home group,

let's share meal, let'sbreak bread together

and you can't do that, butyou're actually finding

this is more intimate and more open.

Is this the future of the church?

Do we look to do even more online?

- I think it'll be a mixed economy.

I think, I will never stopdoing Alpha online for sure

because there are a whole lot of people

who could never get to an Alpha course

without it being online.

But equally, I will neverstop doing Sunday online.

We did our first onlineservices because of this

and I was very reluctantto do Alpha online

because I didn't want to attract people

from other churches tocome to our services

rather than going to their local church.

But again, it's one of those things

I've been proved so wrong.

Because what I've learnedis that there are,

I do a podcast with my daughter called,

"Faith and Equality" and we look at issues

of gender equality, ethnicity and so on,

but the last one we didwas on gender equality.

And I interviewed a friend of hers,

who's exactly the same age as her

and when she was 18, she wasa very athletic teenager,

planning to be a doctor

and she got a connective tissue disorder

and for the last 14 years, she's been

in and out of hospital.

And in this podcast, shesaid, "Thank you so much

"for doing your services online

"because now I'm able to come to church."

And I said to her, "Sally,if it's only for you,

"I'll never stop doing services online,"

because I realize that there are

a whole lot of people who even

with our disabled liftsand ramps and so on,

who just simply could not come to church.

So we will continue, we'llmeet in person, God willing,

as soon as we can, but we'll never stop

doing services online and I'll never stop

doing Alpha online.

Of course we'll meet inperson as soon as we can,

because there is something wonderful

about eating together,being in the same room,

seeing each other inthat kind of environment

and yes, of course, we'lldo that when we can.

But, I think we'll neverstop doing Alpha online

and hopefully we'llreach many more people.

And I think this is anextraordinary moment in history

because this virus is a horrible thing.

The grief, the loss, the sadness,

but it's amazing that God can use

something that is so tragic.

But, of course, he used the cross.

The cross was the most tragic event

in the history of the world,

but God used it for good and I believe

God can use this virus for good.

In fact, he is using it,

probably in millions of different ways.

But one of the ways he's using it

is to get people's attention.

Like after 911 in New York Tim Keller said

his congregation doubled.

But that was local and it was short-lived.

But this is global.

All over the world, Godhas got people's attention.

It may just be a short time gap,

but this is an extraordinary opportunity

for people to explore faith

and what we're seeing is that God

has got people's attention,

Pentecost is coming up.

So the outpour of the Holy Spirit

where the gospel wentout in every language

and I believe this Pentecost could be

an amazing moment for an outpouring

of the Holy Spirit andthe gospel to go out

to the whole world, perhapsin a way unprecedented

in the history of the church.

So this is a moment of huge opportunity

and that's what we're seeing on Alpha,

that's what we're seeing in the church

and I think that's what's being seen

all over the world.

- Well, Nicky thank you.

Thank you for your life,

thank you for those wonderful words.

Let is all be of on accord this Pentecost,

one accord, asking for the Holy Spirit

to be poured out so the knowledge

of the Lord can cover the earth

as the waters cover the sea.

Thanks for being with us.

- Thank you Gordon, goodto be with you, God bless.

- Well, you can find outmore about the Alpha course.

It is worldwide.

It's in all kinds of different languages.

All you have to do is go online

and go to cbnnews.com and we'll tell you

how you can get pluggedinto an Alpha course online.

- Very exciting.

Well, up next, shelves are bare

and supplies are running out.

Who's stepping up to feedthese hungry Americans.

And then down to their last $5,

this couple had fallenbehind on their bills,

so how did they multiply their money?

Find out, that's all next.

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- Like many Americans, Josh and Liz

were living paycheck to paycheck.

They fell behind on their bills

and were down to their last $5.

Well, then one day thiscouple made a decision.

And it tripled their income.

- [Narrator] During theirfirst year of marriage,

Josh and Liz Lochmann saved enough money

to move from Indianato Redding, California

where they enrolled inBethel's School of Ministry.

But before long, theywere running out of money.

- We went with a lot of faith

that God would do great things

and it actually turnedout to be very hard.

I was stressed about financeslike most of the time.

- Josh kept trying to get jobs

while we were in Redding, California.

And no jobs were coming.

- We really felt like if wedidn't get financial provision,

we'd have to go home,

down to less than $5 and starting

go get behind on some of the bills.

- [Narrator] When there was income,

Josh and Liz were alwaysfaithful to tithe,

a discipline they bothpracticed since they were young.

- So it was never a question

of should we stop tithing.

No, we knew, like you honor God first

and then he'll takecare of everything else.

With only a few dollars left

and bills continuing to mount,

they stayed up all nightpraying for a miracle.

The next day in classGod answered their prayer

when their teacher, Chris Valletin

made an announcement.

- Anyone that is gonna go home,

if money doesn't come in, stand up.

And so, Josh and I, of course we stood up.

- And then Chris Valletin asked

the other students to give money

to the ones that needed it.

- And a bunch of students swarmed us

and from then on we had,you know, more miracles

and just a consistent flow of miracles

just kept coming.

- I mean it was a direct answer to prayer,

so we got enough money to encourage us

and to keep going.

- He definitely showed up, yeah.

- [Narrator] They finishedthe year of school

and moved back to Indiana where Josh

got a job in construction.

Still, they lived paycheck to paycheck.

Frustrated, Josh turnedto the Bible for answers.

- I'd get verses on financial provision,

write them on three by five cards

and memorize them, meditate on them.

I saw it was his willin his word to provide

and bless his kids and I started

to have faith for that.

- [Narrator] So with new confidence,

they once again turned to God for help

when they needed an ideafor a second income.

- And we both kneltdown together by the bed

and we asked God for a second income.

I saw a picture in my mind of a honeybee.

And Josh saw a picture of a honey stick

and we saw it separately

and we never talkedabout beekeeping before.

What God was speaking to me was that was

honeybees would be a second income.

- [Narrator] They began keeping bees

and selling honey.

They then moved to the Atlanta area

and Josh added bee removal services.

Soon, the business was thriving.

- At the time I had noidea what it would become.

It was just, almost started like a hobby

more than a second income but it grew it

beyond my wildest expectations.

- So what happened iswe tripled our income.

So, from what we had before.

- [Narrator] Josh andLiz believe their success

stems from their commitmentto trust God and tithe.

One ministry they give to is CBN.

- We know in God's word that it says

give and it shall be given to you,

pressed down, shakentogether and so for us,

when we give to God andwe look for good ground

where we're like that's agood ministry to give to,

we know we're gonna reap a good harvest.

And when we have access to his generosity

and we can ask for anything,

we end up becoming generous

and we end up seeing that we can

never out give God, ever.

- [Narrator] As they look to the future,

Josh and Liz believe God will continue

to provide as they trust him

with their lives and finances.

- I'm just confident that he'll provide

and I don't have to worry.

He says seek first his kingdom

and everything will be added unto you

and I found that to be very true.

- And you can find itto be very true, too.

Here's the first timethat tithing is mentioned

in the Bible and, of course,it's in the book of Genesis.

Genesis chapter 28.

"Then Jacob made a vow,saying if God will be with me,

"and keep me in this way that I am going

"and give me bread to eatand clothing to put on

"so that I come back to myfather's house in peace,

"then the Lord shall be my God.

"And this stone, whichI have set as a pillar

"shall be God's house.

"And all that you give me,

"I will surely give a tenth to you."

Now the original Hebrew is giving a tenth.

I will give a tenth, thatmeans giving repeatedly.

And that's what Jacob made a vow.

He said I will give repeatedly to you.

That's what Joshua and Elizabeth did,

they made a vow.

We will give repeatedly to you.

Now if Jacob can do it,

he's an example to us.

Abraham gave out a 10th to Melchizedek.

It's been part of our tradition,

our way of followingGod since the beginning,

since these firstrevelations to the patriarchs

and when we follow intothose patterns of behavior,

wonderful things can happen.

For Joshua and Elizabeth,it was a revelation.

Separately, each one of them praying

and both of them get apicture of what to do

and how to do it.

That's what God will do for you

if you just follow thesame principle, Terry?

- Well, 20 million peoplelost their jobs last month.

There are now more Americans out of work

than at any time sincethe Great Depression.

This is putting a terrible strain

on our nation's food banks.

And Operation Blessing is helping to meet

that enormous need.

- [Narrator] With theuncertainty and constraints

of a worldwide pandemic,those who struggled before

to put food on the table are having

an even tougher time now.

- There's no bread, there's no milk.

There's just so very little things,

so we kind of have given up hope.

- [Narrator] Operation Blessing partner

Faith World Ministries usually runs

a walkthrough food panty out of their gym.

Now it's curbside surface.

- And this gives merenewed hope in people.

- [Narrator] Suffolk Christian Fellowship,

another Operation Blessing partner

doesn't have a parking lot,

but they're still determined to serve.

Ministry director, Lorna Slotter.

- We are in a crisis right now,

but at the same time, we also know

that we still, there'sstill a great need out there

and that need has to be met.

We're sanitizing handswhen you come in the door.

We're just trying to do all we can

to make sure that we try

to stay as safe as possible.

- [Narrator] These ministriesface a tough problem.

- [Lorna] We do see more people coming in,

not only new people, butwe're actually seeing people

that are regularly coming in,

they're coming in morethroughout the week.

- [Narrator] WhenOperation Blessing learned

our long-time trusted partners

in the Hampton Roads areaneeded extra support,

we were all in.

While continuing our usual shipments,

we identified key local ministries

as distribution hubsfor additional supplies.

Then we loaded up truckswith extra pallets of food

and water and sent them off.

- We are very excitedabout getting the goods.

We need the goods and thegoods are going out the door.

We got a mission going out today.

- [Narrator] People in needare especially thankful

for our donors and partners,

who make it possible for us

to help that little bit extra during

these tough times.

- It's so wonderful to see

the kindness side of human nature

and honestly I wouldn't be eating

if it weren't for this,

so it is a blessing to be.

- And it's because of Operation Blessing.

An y'all being open through this tragedy

that we're able to make ends meet

and I thank you.

- If it weren't for you,we wouldn't be eating.

You don't usually hear that statement

in the United States of America,

but we are living in a time where everyone

is experiencing and feeling this loss

and this need.

We have an opportunity, you and I do,

to make sure that thosewho don't have food

are able to eat.

It's just part of who we are as a country.

Operation Blessing does this all the time.

You've seen them, you'veseen their trucks out

when there's disaster going on.

They bring disaster relief.

They do it around the world and now

they're doing it right here with people

who might even be your neighbors.

So we just want to askyou to be a part of that,

to help us make itpossible for people to not

be hungry in the United States,

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- Well, you're not justfeeding people here in America,

you're also helping to feedchildren around the world.

Group meals have beensuspended in certain areas

because of social distancing.

In places like Cambodia, Orphans' Promise

is still helping the hungry.

Take a look.

- [Narrator] Times have been tough

for 12-year-old Chanra and her family,

especially since the COVIDoutbreak in Cambodia.

- My dad cannot find work

so we don't have a lot to eat.

Some day, we didn't eat anything.

- [Narrator] Chanra's father Fel

had worked in construction.

Now there are no jobs and noway to earn money for food.

- We were poor even beforethe COVID-19 outbreak.

Some days I made $5 doing construction.

Then, the virus hit.

- [Narrator] Earlier this year

we met Chanra at an after school program

sponsored by CBN's Orphans' Promise.

There we provided Chanraand her sister hot meals

five days a week untilCOVID forced that program

to shut down, too.

- Normally, the girls would eat lunch

at a church, but now the church is closed,

so we have to make do with what we have.

- [Narrator] Fel tries to catch a few fish

at a pond near their house,

but the fish are smalland not very plentiful.

- Sometimes, when I can't find any fish,

we don't have anything to eat,

we have to ask the neighbor to help.

Sometimes they help, sometimes they can't.

- [Narrator] So Orphans' Promise offered

some help for Chanra andothers in her community.

Instead of group meals just for kids,

we brought food boxes, sacks of rice

and other groceries so that everyone

will have enough to eat for a month.

And we'll continue toprovide food every month

until the crisis ends.

- I am so happy thatyou gave us this food.

Now our children will not go hungry.

Thank you so much.

- If you're a member of the 700 Club,

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- Welcome back to Washingtonfor this CBN Newsbreak.

As India's lockdown isset to expire Sunday,

the country's seeing aspike in COVID-19 cases.

Unemployment has soared to 27 percent,

putting pressure on the government there

to ease up on its restrictions.

During the lockdowns,

the Calvary Temple megachurch in Hyderabad

donated 700 tons of food and medicine

to help the poor and needyincluding 30,000 families.

Founder and pastor Satish Kamar

also led his church

to serve 2-1/2 million meals and counting.

Essential groceries aredistributed in carton boxes.

Each kit allows a family of four

to have three square meals for a month.

- Well, Vice President Mike Pence

says prayer is welcome in meetings

in the Trump Administration.

Pence made his commentsspeaking to Axios on HBO.

- This is a president whowelcomes prayer at meetings

and I must tell you, fromthe day the president

tapped me to do this, we huddled quietly

in my office and before we got started

with what was thebeginnings of my efforts,

I thought it was important to pray.

- The Vice President also said staff

at the White House have felt the prayers

of the American people as theymanage the COVID outbreak.

Well, you can always getthe latest from CBN News

by going to our website at cbnnews.com.

Gordon and Terry will be back

with more of the 700Club right after this.

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- It's no wonder Corneliasuffered from PTSD.

She lived a nightmare,

suffering abuse as a childfrom her mother's boyfriend

and then later during apair of failed marriages.

Cornelia knew what sheneed to do to escape

the pain of her past,

so why couldn't she do it?

- I am with somebody andthey're really nice people

but they have the same smile as he does

and I can't speak.

I'm frozen.

- [Narrator] Cornelia Judespent much of her life

running from the pain

of childhood sexual abuse in Germany.

Most of it coming afterher mother's boyfriend

moved in when Cornelia was 12.

- I didn't tell my mom in the beginning

because he manipulated situations

and she always believed him.

She never believed me.

- [Narrator] The sexual abuse lasted

for almost a decade.

- After the second and the third time,

he made clear to me that now I'm involved.

This is now my fault as much as it's his.

- [Narrator] As a teen, she looked

for a way to escape the fearand rage growing inside.

- I slept at the localpark with homeless people.

I was doing drugs.

I was drinking.

I was cutting myself.

When I would cut myself,I would feel better

in the moment.

After, I would not feel good.

- [Narrator] Then Cornelia thought

she found a way out.

A baby and a marriage at the age of 18.

- He did drugs and alcohol.

He would get super, super aggressive.

One time I had to actuallyget my teeth fixed

because that's how bad he beat me.

The beating was betterthan the sexual abuse.

- [Narrator] After fourmonths of marriage,

Cornelia left her abusive husband,

but she soon found another man,

an American whom she followed

to the United States and married.

However, it wasn't theescape she had hoped for.

- He was out all the time,

he was drinking all the time.

I don't know how many times he cheated

on me during that time,but I was cool with it.

I was fine.

I wasn't sexually abused, I wasn't beaten.

- [Narrator] By now Cornelia had

been having consistent panic attacks,

nightmares and breakdowns.

After one particular episode,

she went through a therapist

who diagnosed her with PTSD.

- I isolated myself a lot

and really, really cried a lot.

- [Narrator] After two years,

unable to bear theemotional abuse any longer,

she took her two children and left.

- I just really alwayssaid there's no such thing

as a good God.

Because there's no way that he would allow

one person to go through all of this.

- [Narrator] For fiveyears, Cornelia tried

to raise her kids while numbing her fear

and anxiety without alcohol.

Then she met Lawrence.

They had a daughtertogether and got married.

Lawrence followed after God

and tried setting thatexample for his family.

But Cornelia kept hermechanisms of coping.

- I went back to my drinking and clubbing

and Lawrence was home withthe kids most of the time

and sometimes I would come home, five, six

in the morning and I'm still drunk

and I see him, he'll sit on the bed

and he's praying and Iwill get so mad at him

because I felt like that was his way

of trying to manipulate me.

- [Narrator] For about a decade,

Cornelia avoided God andcoped with her internal hell.

Then in 2015, she noticed a little church

on her daily commute.

As she passed by it every day,

she felt something calling to her.

- It was this cool, youshould go check that out.

And I was like talking to myself.

I'm not gonna go in there,why would I go in there.

And then one day I'm like,

you know something, I'mjust gonna go check it out.

And I came home and I told my husband,

hey, let's check out this church.

And he was like what?

- [Narrator] The couplestarted attending the church,

but Cornelia was still resistant

to the Lord's pull on her heart

and decided to leave.

But before doing so,she met with the pastor,

who equipped her with a tool

that would completely alter her course.

Forgiveness.

- He said to me every time I get a feeling

of I need to go drink or when I wake up

from nightmares, whichhappen all the time,

that I will say I choose to forgive,

I choose to forgive.

And I say God I can't do this.

I cannot do this.

And if you can hearme, help me to forgive.

- [Narrator] That time would finally come.

She returned to the churchfor a prayer service

where the congregation could write things

and names of people that needed prayer

on a white board.

For Cornelia, only oneperson came to mind,

her mother's old boyfriend.

- I put his name there andsomething inside of me,

it was like somebodyjust let go of my heart

and there was a switch in my brain

and in my heart I didn't see him

as this monster anymore.

That was one of the mostamazing days of my life.

- [Narrator] Corneliawas engulfed by love.

And soon after, gave her life to Jesus.

She stopped drinking and the nightmares

and panic attacks began to diminish.

With the grace of God's forgiveness

and a transformed heart,Cornelia began rebuilding

a love and trust of her mother,

husband and family.

- I needed forgiveness

and if God gives me forgiveness,

he can give it to anybody,

anybody in this world.

'Cause that's what he wants to do.

He just wants to give us all this grace

and all this love and all we need

to do is accept it.

And to feel him in myheart and to know that

on days that I have a rough day

that I can just lean on him.

With him, I can do anything.

- That's not just Cornelia's opinion,

it's in the word of God.

It says that he gives us love, power,

a sound mind.

It's ours for the asking.

But you know this forgiveness issue

is a tough one, oncesomebody has done something

really wrong to you.

It's hard because youfeel like in forgiving

them somehow you're exonerating them,

that maybe what they didisn't considered that bad,

but it's not really whatforgiveness is about.

You see when God asks usto forgive other people,

it's because he knows thatit does unlock our hearts.

That's what Cornelia said.

As she wrote that man's name on the board,

she said suddenly, someone didn't have

a hold on my heart.

You see when we choose to forgive,

it doesn't matter how you feel about it.

It starts with doing what she said.

I forgive, I choose to forgive this day.

Sometimes the feelings come later,

sometimes the release comesa little bit after that.

But choose to forgivebecause it sets your free.

Your heart begins to open up

and to blossom and God is able to put

into your heart all those things

that he promised to any of us

who believe and follow him.

It's not saying that whatthe person did to you

was fair or right.

It's not looking away from it

or covering it up in any way.

It's saying I'm not gonna let anybody

control my heart and mymind and my life this way.

I'm setting you freebecause I wanna be free.

You know God says he'll dealwith those who deal with us

and I would way rather haveGod deal with it than me.

So today I wanna invite you to do that.

Some of you have been so wronged,

so hurt by other people and often when,

like Cornelia, it's done in your life

as a child that leaves these scars,

it leaves these wounds in your heart.

And it lasts your whole life

if you don't let it go

and it affects everything.

It affects how you love other people.

It affects whether you canlet them love you or not.

Listen, be set free today.

Do what he asks us to do,

to forgive others as wewould like him to forgive us.

Just do what Cornelia did.

Just say this.

Father, I am a sinner,but today I am setting

my heart free.

I choose to forgive thosewho have done me wrong.

I choose your way God.

I'm asking you to help me to open my heart

and my life, to live freely before you

so I can receive all the blessings

you desire to give me.

Thank you God.

Thank you for being there for me

even when I didn't know you were there.

I began this journey today

and I pray this prayer in Jesus' name.

If you just prayed that prayer,

you may have some questions about things

and we're here for you.

We have a toll free number.

There's always someonethere to pray with you,

to answer your questions.

1-800-700-7000.

Please feel free to call.

Still to come, we're gonnabe answering questions

from you, our viewers, so don't go away,

we'll be right back.

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- We wanna get to a coupleof the email questions

you've sent in.

This is from Addison, Gordon, who says,

"I just read the articlePlandemic: The Hidden

"Agenda Behind COVID-19.

"How do we know who to trust?

"It makes sense that we needto build our immune system.

"I know God is in control,

"but we can't wear masks forever."

- Is that from Addisonor is that from you.

I actually went to my dentist

and he was asking me about it.

- Well, it's pretty--

- Because he asks, doctorsare sending me this.

And so I took time andI actually watched it.

Here's the problem with it.

It denies zoonotictransmission of viruses,

which I'm sorry, itjust is medically wrong.

Zoonotic is a word thatwe're all getting used to.

It means when viruses jumpfrom animal populations

to human populations and what you look for

is called a reservoir wherewhere is the virus living

in an organism, in an animal

and it's not destroying that animal,

so it's just replicating,

but it's not killing it and when does it

then spill over and that's the term,

it spills over into human population.

Usually because the humansare somehow interacting

with the animal or coming into

the animal's environmentor eating the animal.

So look at all the various viruses

that have come from animal populations

and you start with birdflu, swine flu, Ebola,

the feeling is HIV was originally

in monkey populations.

So you see all of these things

and then to say well, itcan't come from animals,

which is what the video said,

that COVID had to come froma laboratory experiment.

I'm sorry, the science is just wrong.

So, the good part of it isbuild your immune system,

so please do that.

But let's not look intoconspiracy theories

or anything like that.

I don't think it's productive.

We have to realize thesethings are occurring in nature,

the more we interact with environments

where humans aren't used to

and we're not used to being in bat caves

outside Kunming, these things are going

to spill over into human populations.

The really bad news, this isnot the only one out there.

There are plenty of them.

There are plenty of virusesin this bat population,

so we need to be readynot just for this one,

but for future ones.

But here's a word from Romans.

"We know that all things work together

"for good to those who love God,

"to those who are called according

"to his purpose."

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