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The Global Lane - EP338 - March 26, 2020

Anxious & troubled over the Covid-19 pandemic? Trump's personal pastor on lessening the stress: State of emergency lockdown--constitutional rights violated? How churches are responding during the shutdown; Shining light amidst Coronavirus darkness. Read Transcript


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- [Gary] Today from the "Global Lane."

Feeling anxious and troubledover the COVID-19 pandemic?

President Trump's personal pastor shares

some thoughts on how to lessen the stress.

(air whooshes)On the home front,

state of emergency.

(gavel slams)

Constitutional rights violated?

- The government now saying,"We wanna suspend the courts,"

and you can't go before a judge?

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- Also, a look at how churches

are responding during the shutdown.

(air whooshes)And shining light

amidst coronavirus darkness.

And it's all right hereon the "Global Lane."

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(air whooshes)The global COVID-19

coronavirus pandemic isescalating, fast approaching

half a million confirmed cases worldwide,

with more than 18,000 deaths.

President Trump says he'd like to see

the United States opened up by Easter.

This year, that's April 12th.

Some health experts saythat would be premature,

but Nobel laureate Michael Levitt says

he sees signs of recovery.

Levitt has analyzed COVID-19and data from 78 countries.

He believes the number of infections

will start decreasing morequickly than expected.

The shutdowns, the health risks,

social distancing, all of this, of course,

is weighing heavily on theworld and the American people.

So how can we overcome ourfears, anxiety, and impatience?

Well, Pastor Paula White-Cainis personal minister

and spiritual adviser to President Trump.

She's a motivational speaker and author.

Her latest book is "Something Greater:

"Finding Triumph Over Trials."

She hosts the televisionshow "Paula White Today."

Paula, thank you for your time.

A lot of people are getting laid off

right now from their jobs, they worry

about the future, being able to pay bills.

Older people, of course,concerned about their health.

They're shut in without direct contact

with loved ones and grandkids, so forth.

So what are you tellingpeople when they seek

advice from you aboutdealing with all of this?

- In uncertain times, wecertainly have a certain God.

This might have caught us off our course

and blindsided us, but it certainly

did not catch God off-guard.

And the one thing I encourage people is

God, throughout all of His word,

from Genesis through Revelation,

doesn't only provide uswith words of comfort,

but He shows us, when people went through

very difficult times,you look at the plague

in Numbers chapter 16,and how Moses sends Aaron

into the midst of theassembly to take the censer,

that is, to offer up prayers, and to stand

between the dead and the living,

and the prayers of God's peopleliterally stop the plague.

We know that we needscience, technology, doctors.

We're doing everything humanly possible,

but I believe one of our greatestweapons is that of prayer.

We also see Psalms chapter 91.

Rabbis continue to read thatas a psalm of deliverance

a psalm of protection, and we see that as,

"He that dwelleth in thesecret place of the Most High

"shall abide under theshadow of the Almighty."

Of course, it goes on through 16 verses

to give us all these wonderful promises,

but to dwell means tosit, and as hard as it is

during this time, we have to learn,

how do we homestead?

How do we sit in God?

Because His promises are sure for us.

And I am seeing throughoutmaybe these difficulties,

pandemic, I remind people,means to be widespread,

and it is widespread.

That doesn't mean that the death toll,

as you said, is increasing, but because,

especially, the drasticactions that President Trump

took initially by shuttingthose borders down

and shutting off travelto China and the hotspots,

what he did with creating those borders

with Europe and shuttingdown the flights there,

I believe that caused usto be drastically ahead.

So we took some verydifficult, tough steps

in the beginning thatwe knew that would begin

to slow that curve.

We didn't want that steepspike, we wanted that curve end

that everyone's so familiar with now,

and that's why we weresaying, "15 days, 15 days."

Does that mean everythinggoes away in 15 days?

No, but it means wecertainly have been able

to control and look atsome of that hard data,

as you were talking about.

We'll see our economy not only recover,

but I believe it will also soar.

This is a temporary thing.

It's a new life, it's when you say,

"We've learned new things through it."

Social distancing, I like to use

the word physical distancing, because

we need to be socially connected.

We need people to knowthat we care, we love them.

"How are you doing?"

Text someone today, reach out.

Give them a word of encouragement.

Let them know that a sovereign God

is not caught off-guard by this.

- And Paula, how can wepray for the president?

I know he's facing hostilities,

a hostile media every day,criticism is unrelenting.

I'm sure he's hearing many voices

about how he should respond ornot respond to this pandemic.

So how should we prayfor him at this time?

- It's interesting, I'vebeen on several calls

that actually askedthe president and said,

"Sir, how would you like us to pray?"

And I heard him repeat that he wants

to pray for all Americansto be healthy, to be well,

that we need to pray for this nation,

and his concern was for thewell-being of all people.

Personally, I think we should continue

to pray James 1:5, thathe would walk in wisdom,

and that he would be ledby the spirit of God,

that good informationwould be given to him.

We need to pray for all ofour leaders during this time.

He's got those tough shoulders,

they're broad shoulders.

We're all human.

I'm sure we need to pray that he would

stay strong and not weary and well doing,

for his physical, spiritual,and emotional stamina.

Pray for his family as he works tirelessly

on behalf of the American people,

and he is doing a phenomenal job.

Polls are showing that, everyone's saying,

it's skyrocketing.

If people thought, boy,this would be the demise,

it's the exact opposite.

I've known him for 19 years.

He's a phenomenal leader.

He's able, especially during difficult

times, to rise to the occasion.

He's at his highest everfor approval ratings.

- Okay, I'm sorry, we're out of time,

but Pastor Paula White-Cain.

There's a lot to pray about, especially

for the president, our leaders,

our nation, other countries.

Thank you for your time and insights.

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- [Gary] Here on thehome front, are states

and the federal governmentseizing too much power

during the COVID-19 crisis?

Are they violating the U.S. Constitution

during the state of emergency lockdown?

Well, here to weigh in is constitutional

attorney John Whitehead.

Mr. Whitehead is founder and president

of the Rutherford Institute.

John, I thought when a state of emergency

is declared by thepresident and governors,

the intent is to provideemergency response,

mostly money, I guess,for states and localities,

but you say it's gone way beyond that.

Please tell us, give us someexamples that trouble you.

- You have to remember, it's really clear.

You cannot take away thelife, liberty, and property

of Americans without due process of law.

We shouldn't be suspending the courts.

People should have access to the courts.

We're seeing some places now seizing guns,

you have the L.A. mayornow, the Los Angeles mayor,

saying he's gonna cut off water

and power to businesses thathe does not feel are essential.

So we're seeing a lot of what we've seen

happen in other countries,and I've got an article

on this, you can go to our website,

where I talk about these things,

"Suspending the Constitution."

I'm really concerned that when we come out

of this mess, that we don'tcome out of it less free,

in other words.

And I want Americans to really understand

why it's important to keep our freedoms,

because in other crises around the world,

when these things happen, people have lost

their freedoms, and their governments

have gained a lot of power, and (coughs)

in the end, we, the people, lose,

especially the people out there that can't

afford lawyers and need all the help

that the RutherfordInstitute gives people.

- Well, John, when all of thisis over with, then, you say

you're concerned that wewon't be going back to normal.

What do you expect to change here?

What may happen?

- Well, people mayacclimate to this climate,

especially in placeswhere they're actually

very draconian, takingaway guns and arresting

people for walking outside,and things like that.

We're starting to see that happen.

If it gets any worse, itcould really get out of hand,

and like I show in myarticles, the article

at rutherford.org, on my website,

"Suspending theConstitution," the government

has amazing powers, andwhen you have the government

now asking to be able todetain Americans indefinitely

without having a lawyer and a trial,

that's pretty (laughs) scary stuff.

That undermines everythingthe Founding Fathers

gave us, which was our liberties.

And what it means is, youdon't have absolute rights,

that the government can just take 'em away

and say, "This is an emergency,we're gonna take 'em away."

That's why I say a lot ofthis should be supported

by facts, and people shouldhave access to the courts.

But when you have thegovernment now saying,

"We wanna suspend the courts,"

and you can't go before a judge?

That does undermine everything

that we supposedly believe in.

And the fellow who wrote the Constitution,

the Bill of Rights,James Madison, said this.

"The optimist trusts all those in power."

And what he was saying is,people sometimes overreact.

And I'm seeing a lot of overreaction now.

People who live in violentneighborhoods have told me

the government's taking away their pistols

and rifles and stufflike that, and old ladies

are telling me, "All I haveis my weapon in the house.

"The police never show up when I call 'em.

"They're too busy."

And so, we wanna protect the people,

but most of all, we wanna keep our rights

and make sure when wecome out of this thing,

that we've learned a lesson.

So I'm advocating thatpeople get really active

in your local governmentafter this is over,

and make sure that a lot of the things

you're seeing in thiscountry that we don't like,

like the 80,000 SWAT team raids that are

occurring annually in this country,

that we can slow these things down

and maintain our freedoms.

- So, John, what else should be done

about this governmentoverreach that's happening

in the state and federal level?

What else can we do?

- When our government'ssaying they wanna hold

and detain people indefinitelywithout seeing a lawyer,

and that's what the Trumpadministration's asking,

the DOJ is asking Congress to do,

we should be outraged at that.

You do not wanna be treating people,

because they might havea cold or whatever,

or doing something that the government

doesn't like, being able to put 'em away,

and (laughs) you can never see 'em again.

This is the old Soviet Union, and things

like that we've seen in the past.

So what people should dois, and this is the key,

get active in your local governments,

so your local governments can set rules

and make sure thatwe're protected in times

and use rational thought in these things,

not let it get so crazy that we start

throwing our rights out the window.

I love my country, but thething that bothers me most

is how the government reactssometimes in these situations.

After 9/11 passed, yeah, George Bush

pushing through the U.S. Patriot Act,

which basically created themass surveillance state.

Everything we do is being watched now

because they crashed into the towers,

but we have to suffer it.

- And of course, we've seen what

that's done with the FISA court.

So John Whitehead, presidentof the Rutherford Institute.

Thank you, John, for sharingyour constitutional insights.

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- The number of Americanssuffering work loss

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with 80 to 100 million jobs at risk.

How will churches respondto help those out of work?

Already, offerings and donations are down

because most churcheshave shut their doors

and have moved services to online

to protect health of their members.

Well, joining us is the president

of the American PastorsNetwork, Sam Rohrer.

Sam, it's good to see you again.

So, COVID-19 poses a major challenge

to churches and pastors.

How are they responding?

- Well, Gary, most areresponding with wondering,

how do we balance, number one,

the command to not forsake the assembling

of ourselves together,which is a biblical command,

with that of civil government that says

don't gather yourselves together?

That's a dilemma for many.

But in the heart of, in the essence

of trying to protectour own family members,

our own church members, and those around

from the spread of thevirus, most all churches

have agreed with civilgovernment and said,

"We will forsake, temporarily,

"meeting ourselves together."

Now, herein, though, this challenge.

I always say, and we've heard the saying,

"Necessity is the mother of invention"?

I'm saying that challenges to the church

can also be a time tocultivate creativity.

Meeting together withinthe walls of a church

are not as important as meeting

together in prayer in other ways,

and, thank the Lord, we have technology,

and I've just been thrilled with how much

creativity that we areseeing with churches

communicating online.

There is a church closeto us who is actually

setting up speakers in their parking lot,

gonna call it a drive-in church.

People come and they will sit in the car,

and they're actually gonna link 'em up

to a low FM transmitter, and they're gonna

be able to listen to the service while

they look at it from adistance on their car radio.

This is an amazing thing.

And I think, herein, is where, as we look,

and we're trying to encourage pastors,

do not disobey government at this point,

do not forsake the assembling of ourselves

together, but increaseand take this opportunity

as a time to say, "How creatively

"can we communicate,maintain connectivity,

"and, yes, indeed, meetthe needs of our people

"inside our own assemblies like perhaps

"we've never done before, and demonstrate

"that need to people outsidethe walls of the church?"

I think it's a time of great need, yes,

but also great opportunity.

- Yes, that parkinglot services reminds me

a little bit of the olddrive-in movie theaters,

but instead of a speakerbeing attached to your car,

just tune in to the FM radio.

So, Sam, I wanna takea moment just to give

some recent statistics.

Now, this was beforethe COVID-19 pandemic.

A Barna research studyshowed that fewer millennials

and Generation Xers value regular

church attendance and church membership.

While 68% of churched babyboomers say they're members

of a church, only 48%of churched millennials

and 51% of churched GenXers confirm membership.

Only about 27% ofnon-practicing Christians

in the U.S. say churcheshave a very positive

impact on their communities.

So, Sam, what can pastors and churches do

to change that perception, especially

now, during the COVID-19 crisis?

- Well, I think one of those things is,

I think the opportunityto now to demonstrate

what we know the millennialsand Generation X,

in part, are saying, for whythey have left the church

or think the church is not important,

is they say they have notseen any authenticity.

Well, I say, well, well.

This is a great time for the church

to stand up and do what the church

is called to do, andthat is the communication

of hope and redemptionthrough Jesus Christ.

These are a time when theworld, younger and older,

are looking and saying,"What's going to happen?

"We've not walked this road before."

What a great time for the church and those

to stand up and say,"The Lord has laid out

"the plan before us, and He isour refuge and our strength."

It's a time for us todemonstrate that, to teach us,

I am hoping and praying,that perhaps the millennials

and others, when confronted with the fact

that a lot of thosethings in which we trust,

our bank accounts, our jobs, a good life,

security, all of those thingswhich are being threatened,

that they look not togovernment, but they look to God.

At that point, that's where the church

should be reaching out to them and saying,

"This is, in fact, what the body of Christ

"is all about, meetingthe needs of others,

"coming together in prayer,offering up our praise,

"yes, in these times, our praise,

"to God above who canmeet all of our needs."

I think that God may be putting judgment

upon this nation, butembedded within that,

His mercy and anopportunity to communicate

the good news of Jesus Christ in a real,

(alarm beeps)in a real and authentic way.

- And still time to roll up the sleeves,

maybe put on some gloves, amask, and go out and serve.

Many challenges for pastorsand churches in America today,

not just with COVID-19 andthe coronavirus outbreak.

Sam Rohrer, president of theAmerican Pastors Network.

Thank you so much foryour time and insights.

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- Where is God in the midstof this COVID-19 viral crisis?

Has He abandoned us?

I'd like to think it'sthe other way around.

Maybe we've abandoned Him.

Nevertheless, there areglimmers of light and hope.

I'm touched by selfless acts of kindness

and moments of prayerduring this viral crisis,

like 72-year-old Italian priestFather Giuseppe Berardelli.

Afflicted with COVID-19, he gave

his respirator to a stranger.

It saved the younger patient's life,

but Berardelli lost his.

Christ told us in John 15:13,"Greater love has no one

"than this, than to lay downone's life for his friends."

In this case, Father Giuseppe gave

his life for a stranger.

Heroic faith, folks.

Also encouraging, these hospital workers,

who begin their daily battle against

the COVID-19 virus in prayer.

Yes, let's not forget to pray for our

healthcare workers, for strength,

perseverance, times ofrest, and God's protection.

Earlier, we talked with Christian author

and advocate Alex McFarland.

He's part of the nationwide ministry

Truth for a New Generation.

(air whooshes)

Alex, people are gettingsick, many Americans

are out of work, there's a lotof fear, anxiety out there.

What are you telling people?

- Well, we're telling people, obviously,

to do your what yourdoctors say and do what

the responsible protocols are that our

government is asking us to do,

and by the way, I do think our president

and his staff are doing a masterful job

at handling what, forthe whole wide world,

are uncharted waters.

But I'm telling peoplethings like John 14:27,

where the Lord said, "Letnot your heart be troubled.

"Do not be afraid."

Jesus promised peace, security, salvation,

and what we're telling theworld is that the comfort

and the reassuranceeverybody craves right now

is found in a relationshipwith Jesus Christ.

- And I know from my own Bible reading

there are a lot of "fearnots" in the Bible.

This is already having animpact on our culture, Alex,

with all the social distancing, the online

communication for churches, others.

How do you expect our culture will be

changed by this in the long run?

- To a degree, it's anybody's guess.

But I happen to believe that we are

in the last days of history.

Now, no man knows the day or the hour

of Christ's return,obviously, but I will say,

for a number of years, a lot of things

have been coalescing intoa worldwide paradigm shift.

And we've seen over the last decade

that just the abolitionof moral boundaries,

people fighting fervently todefend abortion on demand,

and then the redefinition of marriage,

the mainstreaming of homosexualityand now transgenderism.

And it can be grounds for dismissal

(phone beeps)or a lawsuit

if you insist that males aremales and females are females.

So we are in the midstof a radical, radical

reshuffling of the deck worldwide.

I believe there's goingto be a great revival,

a great move of God's HolySpirit, just before the rapture.

But I would say to everybody, obviously,

the thing on everybody's mindis this virus called corona.

But there's an even worsetoxin, it's called sin.

And the answer for sin and the sin problem

is the Great Physician, Jesus.

- And you specialize inChristian apologetics.

It seems like this crisisprovides Christians

with an excellent opportunity to share

their faith and calm people's fears.

What do you think?

- Oh, absolutely.

And Christianity is a belief system

shown to be true bycompelling lines of evidence

that the tomb is empty.

History, archeology, science,the manuscript evidence,

even things like mathematics and biology,

they all prove thesethings, that God is real,

the Bible is true, andChrist is authentic.

If ever there were a time to have one's

house in order, have yourheart right with God,

this is that moment.

And the good news, Christianity, is real.

- Amen, Alex McFarland.

Thanks so much for joining us today.

- God bless you, and God bless CBN.

(air whooshes)People are posting

a lot of prayers and scripture verses

on social media during this crisis.

One of my favorites isfrom Matthew 11:29 and 30.

Jesus said, "Take My yokeupon you and learn from Me,

"for I am gentle and lowly in heart,

"and you will find rest for your souls.

"For My yoke is easy, My burden is light."

Yes, let's not forget to turn to Him

when we're anxious and troubled.

Because while news events and situations

change continually,Jesus Christ is the same

yesterday, today, and forever, and His

unconditional love for us never changes.

(air whooshes)Well, that's it today

from the "Global Lane."

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