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700 Club Interactive - February 5, 2020

Pastor and author Robert Jeffress provides Christians with ten strategies to live out their faith in today’s hostile, anti-Christian environment. Read Transcript


- [Terry] An assault victimbecomes victimized again.

- I became brave enough toactually go to the cops,

and I told them what had had happened,

and the cop laughed at me.

- [Terry] Find out how shelearned to trust again.

Plus, how to be courageousin a hostile culture.

Author and pastor Robert Jeffress joins us

to tell us how on today's"700 Club Interactive."

- Well welcome to the show.

This past Sunday, nearly100 million people

watched the Super Bowl.

While the game was exciting,

one city shows that morethan 25 million people

tune in just to watch the ads.

- Well one advertisement was banned

from running during the Super Bowl.

A pro-life group had beenworking since last summer

to get their commercialon during the big game.

They're accusing the FoxNetwork of censoring their ad.

The spot features men andwomen who survived abortion,

asking if their lives were a mistake.

Here's a clip of that ad.

(soft dramatic music)

- [Woman] Can you lookme in the eye and tell me

that in my most vulnerable state,

I was nothing more than a parasite?

- A collection of body parts?

- Sub-human?

- Worthless?

- In 1952, I survivedmultiple abortion attempts.

- D&C abortion.

- An instrument abortion.

- D&C abortion.

- A third term abortion.

- Curettage abortion.

- A vacuum aspiration.

- D&E abortion.

- D&E abortion.

- An induced abortion.

- A saline infusion abortion

that was meant to poisonand scald me to death.

I am the face of choice.

I am that choice.

- [Together] I am that choice.

(heart beats)

- It's incredibly powerful ad,

and you wonder what would've happened

if it had been aired on the Super Bowl,

what kind of outcry, andcertainly Fox was saying

they didn't want to putup with that outcry.

But at the same time, these are voices

that need to be heard.

And when you see the survivors of abortion

and they're telling their story,

well that's a story thatshouldn't be censored.

That's a story thatshould go out anywhere.

And you can be a part of that.

You can share this story with your friends

on your social networks sothat more people get a chance

to see the faces ofpeople who are survivors.

If you want more information,how you can get involved,

go to FacesofChange.org.

- You know, it's a little bit like

now there's a movement not to have women

have an ultrasound beforethey make a decision,

and what are we afraid of?

You know, why don't we just let them see

exactly what's happening?

If you still decide to makethat choice, that's your choice.

But why are we hiding information,

unless there's someulterior motive for that?

- Well, I think it's partof a culture of death.

I mean, that's the--

- It's also money.

- Yeah, there is a lot of money involved

in the abortion, it is an industry.

There are people thatmake their living from it.

All that said, the more science shows us

what's really going on in the womb,

the various stages of fetal development,

you can't look at that, and particularly,

look at all the new 3D ultrasounds

and walk away sayingthat's a blob of tissue.

No.

That's a baby.

- Yeah.

- Well recently, a Nebraska teacher's

favorite pair of shoes were stolen.

His students wasted no time by chipping in

and surprising him with abrand new pair of shoes.

This video now hasnearly two million views,

and here's his response.

- [Student] Oh my geeze.

- [Student] Oh my.

- Are you serious?

- Yeah.- Yes.

- [Student] Oh, don't cry.

(students chattering)

- [Student] You're gonna make me cry.

(students laughing)

- [Student] We love you, Mr. Payne.

- Oh.- Aww.

(students chattering)

- Group hug.- Yep.

- Group hug.- Aww.

(laughing)

- [Student] Hey.

- (chuckles) That's quite a response.

And when you understandthe salaries that teachers,

public school teachers, privateschool teachers, live on,

the gift of a pair of shoes is a big deal.

But the bigger deal is that the children,

the students that he's teaching,

the students that he'ssacrificing his life for,

to say I want to pourinto you, recognize that

and recognize that they can be a help.

How can they pool their resources

in order to get him a pair of shoes.

- That's a precious story.

- Well the principal of OakRidge School in Arlington, Texas

believes in teaching kindnessand leading by example.

- When the principal learned

that the father of three of her students

needed a kidney transplant,

she took action by donatingone of her own kidneys.

Take a look.

- To think that they could lose their dad

when they're just kids in school,

it's just, it was so sad that I just,

that's my main thing, I justwant them to have their dad.

- [Reporter] Here they areall together, and here is dad.

- We weren't really related

so it's great that you'renot part of my family

and you're still doing it.

- There she is.

- How you feeling?

- Fantastic.

- I'm so glad.

- Bless you.

Bless you.

How do I pay her back?

I can't, I can't pay her back.

It runs through my mind all the time.

- Thank you.

- [Reporter] And his childrenhugging that principal.

- No one was surprised that

she would do something like this.

And it just shows you thetype of person she is.

- Be generous, be kind, bebrave, all of those things.

- Well those are good lessons,

be generous, be kind, be brave.

And try to do that every day.

- Yeah.

And just asking the question how can I,

is there something I can do

to make a difference here?

I mean a lot of people would just say

how unfortunate that this exists?

I mean to make that kind of a difference,

it's life changing forthat man and his family.

- Well speaking of an act

of kindness, Melvin Marlett

is a FedEx delivery driverin Northern Michigan,

where this time of year snowfall is often

measured in feet.

- Well as you can see in the video,

Marlett realized that thecustomer's front porch

is covered with snow.

Despite his busy schedule,

he drops the package

and begins shoveling the customer's porch.

The video has since gone viral.

And when asked about his act of kindness,

Marlett said "I would hope it's something

"that anybody would have done.

"If you take care of your customers,

"they take care of you."

well, I don't think it's something

anybody would do. (laughing)

Hats off to you, well done.

Kudos.

- You know let's underline

it doesn't have to be a customer,

if you take care of your neighbor

they will take care of you.

It's one of those, themore acts of kindness

exist in a community,the more likely it is

an act of kindness will come to you.

- We've had some great stories today,

just encouraging everybody

to ramp it up a little bitin the kindness department.

Well up next, how offind courage in a culture

that's becoming more hostile by the day.

Pastor and author,Robert Jeffress joins us

to tell us how right after this.

(gentle music)

Well Jesus told his disciples,

if the world hates you keep in mind

that it hated me first.

Throughout time the Christian life

has been an invitation for persecution.

Pastor Robert Jeffress is here to tell us

how to be courageous in a hostile culture.

- [Man] Dr. Robert Jeffress is the pastor

of a 14,000 memberchurch in Dallas, Texas.

But you might remember when he prayed

for President Trump in the oval office.

Dr. Jeffress says that Christians

have to learn how to live out their faith

in an increasingly godless culture.

- Only when we strengthenourselves internally

by relying on God's promises

and God's presence, only then will we act

in a bold, courageous way.

- [Man] In his book "Courageous,"

Dr. Jeffress shares 10strategies for thriving

in a hostile world.

- Dr. Jeffress joins us now.

It's wonderful to have you with us today.

- Thanks for having me.

- Boy, talk about a timely book,

your book "Courageous."

I mean we do live in a hostile culture,

hostile to our value system as believers.

And hostile to the kind of kindness we saw

exhibited in some of those stories

early on in the show.

Do we sometimes sit down because

we don't feel qualified torespond to the hostility?

- I think that's part of the problem.

And let's be clear, I don'tthink it's ever been harder

for a Christian to live out his faith

than it is right now.

And you think about it, C.S. Lewis said

enemy occupied territory,

that's the world we live in.

- [Terry] Yes.

- And it's really true, Terry.

We've got attacks coming from without.

Not just the culture,

but the every day problems of life,

cancer, broken relationships,

these things that come at us.

Then we have our own inward troubles,

whether it's a residue of a sin nature

that tries to drag us away from God.

And if that weren't enoughwe have attacks from below,

an adversary, the devil,who wants to destroy

everything important to us.

And yet I don't think we have to shirk

our responsibility to live as Christians.

God wants us not just to survive,

but to thrive.

And that's what I talk aboutin this book, "Courageous,"

how you do that.

I took the 10 survival tactics

the survivalists tell us you need to

employ, whether you're in an earthquake

or an avalanche.

You know, don't panic,remember your training,

gain situational awareness.

And I use those survival tactics

from a biblical perspective

on how we can not just survive

but thrive in our world.

- When you talk about culture,

you're right it is a,

we're not talking politically here

about a we/they, we're talking about

just the world in general,

and the fact that we are asked

to stand in it and to stand strong.

I think of Corrie ten Boom

and the midst of what she stood in.

And even in the process she was learning,

but in the end brought us such a message.

You cite Joshua in the book

as a wonderful example

of how we can be strongin the middle of conflict.

- That's the firstsurvival tip in chapter one

is don't panic.

I just had a letter this week

from a woman who hadread that first chapter.

She said she had just gotten the news,

she's a young mother,

she has cancer and onlyhas a few months to live.

She said my first thought was to panic,

you know to freeze.

But then I used those principlesyou talk about from Joshua.

You know Joshua was facedwith having to succeed Moses.

And he didn't feel like hecould fill those sandals.

- [Terry] (laughing) Who would?

- You know God said to him,

don't fear, don't be dismayed,

I will be with you wherever you go.

And that's the promise we have

of God's presence and his promises.

- And that he is able to take all things

and work them into something that matters

for him, for his kingdom and for us.

So even when you cite the mom

who has the cancer anda shot time to live,

it's a trust factor, isn't it,

for us with our savior?

- It's to believe that there's nothing

that happens to us by accident.

You know somebody said everything

that comes into our life,

has come first of allthrough the love of God,

through the will of God,

through the purpose of God,

and if it's come that far

it's come for a great andglorious purpose in my life.

- Talk about Joseph too

because that's my favoritestory in the Bible.

- Mine too.

- And it's, you know, oneof the things about him

is you never hear him complain.

- And he had lots to complain about.

- [Terry] Oh my word, yes.

- And he illustrates one

of the survival tactics I talk about,

and that is develop a victor,

not a victim mindset.

You know think aboutJoseph, sold into slavery

by his brothers, accused by his boss' wife

unfairly of rape,

forgotten by his friends in prison.

I mean he could have been in therapy

his whole life if he wanted to.

Woe is me.

And yet when he met his brothers

who had sold him into slavery,

he said "you meant it for evil,

"but God used it for good."

He believed in a God who was bigger

than adverse circumstancesor adverse people

who come into his life.

And that's part of havinga victor's mindset.

Nothing has come into my life by accident.

- Even when it's unfairness

on top of unfairness on top of unfairness,

you can be the victor.

It all happens in here, doesn't it?

- Yeah and it's important to know, Terry,

God doesn't say everythingthat happens to us is good,

it's that God causes all thingsto work together for good.

And sometimes those all thingsincludes terrible things,

abuse, mistreatment.

God doesn't sanction those things,

but he's powerful enoughto use those things.

- You quote an old Africanproverb in the book,

the wind doesn't break a tree that bends.

Talk about that.

- Well I talk about bend butdon't break in our culture.

I mean everything can'tbe a federal issue.

We've gotta pick our battles, I think,

very wisely and make surethat when we take a stand,

and if we're called to suffer for Christ

we're suffering for a biblical principle

and not our own preference.

And, Terry, let's make it clear,

we are in world that isincreasingly hostile.

And one reason I wrote this book was

I believe that whatever we'reenjoying in America right now,

religious liberty, a turn back to faith,

I think it's temporary.

And I believe the leftis gonna gain control

of this country again.

I think when they come after us

it's not gonna be incrementally,

but it's gonna be a wholesale attack.

And I wanna equip Christians to be ready

to stand courageously.

And to train our childrento stand courageously

for the faith.

- You know PresidentTrump has been so good

in establishing some ofthe things that matter

to people of faith,

and even if he is reelected

it is a window of time.

- Yes.

- And you can almost hear the yapping

of the wolves in the,

this book is really for everybody.

I have often said in my prayer time,

Lord, our children and our grandchildren,

if you don't show up, if your Holy Spirit

doesn't come, then we are troubled.

But we have to considerthe things in our lives

and in our circumstancesthat need shoring up.

- What these 10 principles are something

you can pass on to your children

and grandchildren for standing firm

in their faith long after we're gone.

The greatest legacy we leave is a legacy

of faith for our childrenand grandchildren.

- Well the book is wonderful.

It's 10 strategies forthriving in a hostile world,

and boy we can all relate to that.

It's called, appropriately, "Courageous."

And we thank you so much.

Those 10 strategies can be discussed

with our families now, don't wait.

- That's right. (laughing)

- Good to have you with us.

- Thank you, Terry.

- Gordon.

- Up next, a story that'ssadly all too common.

A woman speaks up about being raped,

and is promptly shut down.

- For the first time ever

after I was assaulted

I became brave enough toactually go to the cops.

And I told them what had happened.

And the cop laughed at me.

- See how she's standing up for herself

and other women, that's next.

(gentle music)

Native American reservations are some

of the poorest communities

in the United Stats.

And while poverty is rampant,

unfortunately so is crime and drinking.

Jenny Andrews grew up surrounded by this

in her community and itfollowed her after she left.

- My name is JennyAndrews, I'm the daughter

of Herb Big Crow andNicolene Crazy Thunder.

- [Woman] Jenny Andrews is a member

of the Ogala Sioux Tribe.

She grew up on the Pine Ridge Reservation

in South Dakota.

- We are a beautiful group of people.

We are unique.

We hae a culture that isfull of color and beauty.

- [Woman] However, she says growing up

on the reservation thatis plagued by poverty,

she experienced darknessand despair early on.

- I do think that thereis a dominant feeling

of hopelessness on the reservation

because there's a lot of drugs and alcohol

in our community,

and there's a lot of violence.

- [Woman] Jenny was effected by it all.

At age eight she wasintroduced to sniffing glue.

By 12 she has been initiated into a gang.

And a year later she wasraped by one of its members.

She turned to alcohol and drugs

to cope with her emotions.

- [Jenny] I felt worthless.

I felt devalued.

- [Woman] Her drug use anddrinking escalated over time.

At 18 she graduated, left the reservation

and joined the military,

through which she met her husband.

Though she was disciplinedfor drinking and drugs,

she received an honorable discharge at 20

and gave birth to her first child.

Her husband was overseas on deployment

when she was raped again,

after a night of partying with friends.

- And for the first timeever after I was assaulted

I became brave enough toactually go to the cops.

And I told them what had happened,

and the cop laughed at me.

I felt so broken.

And so I went into adownward spiral after that.

We got pregnant with our second son

shortly after I was raped.

I didn't want to be married anymore.

I didn't want to be a mom anymore.

I didn't care about whoI was at that point.

I didn't care what happened to me.

And so while my husband was away

on military duty I called my mom

and I asked her to take my kids from me.

I said I'd rather drink and get drunk.

- [Woman] As she struggled to heal

from the trauma of rape,

the couple moved to Louisiana

where they worked freelance

to repair homes in the aftermath

of Hurricane Katrina.

One day their money was tight

when their boss didn't pay them.

- I became very desperatebecause I was hungry.

We, my husband and I had to choose between

getting gas that morning or getting food.

And with $6.78 you can't get a lot of gas.

You can't get a lot of foodeither for that much money.

- [Woman] While her husband repaired

a Christian woman's home,

Jenny sat in the car and cried out to God.

- You know I'm not in a good place.

I'm not a good mom.

I don't have money.

How is this gonna work?

And so I prayed to God that day for money.

I prayed, I prayed.

I had never prayed likethat before in my life.

I just prayed.

After that prayer the Christian woman

had came home from work,

and she asked me how come I was crying.

So I shared with her where I was that day.

I was feeling bad about being a mom,

and that we didn't have any money.

The Christian woman said,you know what Jenny,

don't worry about it, I have about $300

that I can give you right now.

And so she took me andmy husband to go eat.

And she gave us the money.

And I thought God answers prayer.

- [Woman] The next day Jennyattended church with the woman.

The message she heardgave her newfound hope

that her life could change for the better.

- There was a man on the stage,

and I remember him sayingdo you wanna quit drinking?

Do you wanna quit smoking?

Because God has a plan,Jesus has a plan for you.

God knew how many times Iwould sit in my bathroom

and cry because I didn't,

I didn't wanna drink.

I didn't wanna smoke.

But I didn't have thepower to quit on my own.

I walked into the middle of the aisle,

and I started to walk forward.

I just remember saying I'mso sorry that I hurt you God.

I'm so sorry that I didthe things that I did.

I'm sorry, will you forgive me?

And I felt like there was this big burden

lifted off my shoulders.

And when I got up it was gone.

You know I was about to lose my marriage.

I lost my kids.

I didn't know where I was going.

But then I met God.

I met Jesus.

And he began to restore my life that day.

And so I walked out of thatchurch a different woman.

- [Woman] She's been sober ever since.

- I went to a friend's housewhere they were waiting

for me to get high with them.

And I remember telling them

I don't, I don't needweed anymore, I got Jesus.

- [Woman] She began attending church

and learned how to read the Bible.

- He gave me the right people

to cope with my sexual assault.

I did get help.

I seek counseling where needed.

And he makes me whole.

He's making me whole.

- [Woman] Today she findsjoy in being a loving wife

and dedicated mother to her three sons,

Elijah, Neil and Malachi.

- That is my biggest ministry,

is being able to walk with my boys

and my husband and saylook at what God has done

for my family because I ama first generation Christian

in my immediate family.

He caginess lives.

He doesn't just change my life,

but he changes families.

- [Woman] Jenny's passion is inspiring

and mentoring women,

especially those who live on reservations.

She speaks to people around the country

and shares her story

of healing, hope and salvation.

- And I started to serve my people.

I started to share with them the love

that I felt with Christ,

and how the hopelessness

that I want to have was no longer there,

and that they could too feel that.

They didn't have to live the way that,

in hopelessness,

but that there was hope out there

and his name is Jesus.

- He is the God of all hope.

And his very name is hope.

His very name is salvation.

His very name is redemption.

His name is comfort.

It's healing.

His name is righteousness.

And we get to trade all of our bad things

for all of his good things.

It's a free exchange.

God offers it to you for free.

Now Jenny's story, unfortunately,

in our culture today, Jenny'sstory is a familiar story.

If the surveys are right,

and these numbers may actually be low,

25% to one third of all women in America

have had some form of sexual violence,

sexual abuse happen tothem in their lifetime.

These numbers are staggering.

And so that means Jenny's story

can be your story.

But here's the good news.

Just as Jenny was able to trade that hurt,

that humiliation, having a police officer,

the very one tasked with helping her

and protecting her, laugh at her,

that story can turn around.

And what Jenny did can happen to you.

What happened to her,

what happened for her,

what happened throughher can happen to you.

You can trade all your sorrow,

all that hurt.

And here's Jenny, she'd go into the back

of her house, she'd cry.

She'd wanna stop drinking,

she'd wanna stop smoking,

but she couldn't.

There was just too much pain.

It all needed to be medicated away.

But then the great news,

she finds a living savior.

She says God, I'm sorry.

I'm sorry for the hurtthat I've caused you.

What an incredible confession

I'm sorry.

And Jesus responded to her, healed her.

And then she went to her friends

I don't need weed anymore, I have Jesus.

I found him.

I have found what I'm looking for.

If this is for you, there'sa very simple prayer.

And it goes like this.

Jesus, if you're real,

if you really are my savior,

if you really are my hope,

if you really are my comfort,

if you can really heal me,

if you can really forgive me,

could you do that?

could you show up for me?

And if you prayed that with all

of your heart, the Biblesays when you seek him

with all of your heart you'll find him.

For Jenny it happened in a church.

She got up, she walked down the aisle.

And as she's walking she's set free.

For you, start that prayer.

And if you need help with that prayer,

we're here for you.

All you have to do is pick up the phone

and call us, 1-800-700-7000.

Here's a word from John chapter 16.

These are the words of Jesus.

In the world you will have tribulation,

but be of good cheer,

for I have overcome the world.

God bless.

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