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The 700 Club - December 17, 2019

International evangelist Kenneth Copeland shares his thoughts about the state of our nation. Plus, Christians are under assault. See who's leading the attack and meet one man who's fighting back. Read Transcript


- [Announcer] The followingprogram is sponsored by CBN.

- [Announcer] Coming up,Christians are under assault.

- Those long-standing Christian beliefs

are actually viewed as a threat.

- [Announcer] Who is leading the attack?

- Thousands of religiousorganizations will face

new lawsuits and new liability,

simply for acting on theirlong-standing beliefs.

- [Announcer] Meet oneman who is fighting back.

- We're undefeated atthe U.S Supreme Court.

- [Announcer] And then,

international evangelist,Kenneth Copeland.

- All things work together.

- [Announcer] What does he have to say

about the state of our nation?

He shares his thoughtson today's "700 Club."

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- Well welcome to "The 700 Club."

Sinister storms, ravaging tornadoes

rip through the deep south,

snow and ice blast the northeast.

At least 12 people are dead as a result.

What's behind this killerweather, and is the end in sight?

Mark Martin brings us the chilling detail.

- Authorities believe the stormspawned possible tornadoes,

which slammed in tobuildings, toppled trees,

and left behind a path of destruction.

One person died when a suspected tornado

hit a Louisiana home.

A man and a wife died when another storm

struck near an Alabama community.

Authorities say the injuredinclude a seven-year-old child

in critical condition.

In Alexandria, Louisiana,crews worked overnight

to remove debris from roadways.

The winds blew apart a church school.

The children evacuatedminutes before the storm hit.

Some cities opened sheltersfor those left homeless.

- Devastation, it's bad.

There's animals out, houses tore down.

- There's houses disappeared.- The barns are gone,

can't even find some of the properties.

Houses that used to be here,

you can't even find them anymore.

- [Mark] Near Shreveport, Louisiana,

two more suspected tornadoes touched down.

- [Man] So a tornado came through.

- [Mark] Meanwhile,other parts of the nation

are dealing with a differentkind of deadly storm.

Snow, sleet, and rain leading to accidents

resulting in the deathsof at least 10 people

over the past two days.

The storm now movingfrom central Pennsylvania

in to Southern new England.

Snow and a glaze of ice ismaking travel very dangerous.

This huge storm system has already dumped

several inches of snow onKansas, Missouri, and Illinois.

Across the northeast,winter weather advisories

are in place.

Mark Martin, CBN News.

- Well it may get colder here.

We've had just delightfulweather here, this area.

I feel a little bit hypocritical

announcing all the terribleweather around the country

and we've been enjoyingthis wonderful weather,

it's gonna get--- It's close to 70 here today.

- Yeah, but--- Not tomorrow.

- Not tomorrow,- It's coming.

- It's colder then, all right.- It's coming.

- In other news, Democratsare marching in lock step

planning to hold theirimpeachment vote tomorrow,

and pressuring the senateto do their dirty work.

John Jessup has more on that story.

- Representatives ispreparing to vote on articles

of impeachment againstPresident Trump Wednesday.

Since Democrats have themajority and the votes,

the question then becomes,what will the senate do?

- It looks like President Trump

will become the thirdpresident in American history

to be impeached by the house.

While President Trump isexpected to be acquitted

in the inevitable senatetrial, the battle is already on

over how that process should play out.

- I'm not trying to hide the fact

that I have disdain for theaccusations and the process,

so I don't need any witnesses.

- [Abigail] Many Republican senators

say they've already heard enough

to push for a short senatetrial with no witnesses,

but add they will take theirqueue from The White House.

- To me, if he wouldwant witnesses called,

I think that that delays it,

there might be somepitfalls associated with it,

because I'm guessingwe'd probably have to let

their witnesses in as well.

If they don't give us any newinformation, what's the point?

So I think largely though, thesenate oughta be listening to

what the president wantsto do through his team

to finally litigate the defense.

- [Abigail] Senate minorityleader, Chuck Schumer,

definitely wants witnesses,specifically, Mick Mulvaney,

Robert Blair, John Bolton,and Michael Duffey,

witnesses The White House blocked

from testifying in the house.

- I don't know what they'll say.

Maybe they'll be exculpatoryto President Trump,

but to not have them isto engage in a cover-up,

is to say "We're afraid."

- [Abigail] On Monday's "Faith Nation,"

veteran journalist, RaySuarez, questioned if Democrats

are ready for a constitutionalbattle with The White House

over witnesses testifying.

- They want the impeachment trial

to be long in the rear view mirror

by the time election day 2020 comes,

but trying to tell thestory of what happened

with the United States,Ukraine, and Russia,

without calling John Boltonis nearly an impossibility,

and Mick Mulvaney whoinadvertently or advertently,

said, yeah, yeah there wasa kind of quid pro quo,

and it happens all thetime in foreign affairs.

- This could put thespotlight on key GOP senators

like Mitt Romney, who has criticized

the president's infamousUkraine phone call,

and Susan Collins, whofaces reelection in 2020.

51 votes are requiredto either call witnesses

in a longer trial, ordirectly move to a vote

on the two articles on impeachment.

If Republicans decide to call witnesses,

which President Trump reportedly prefers,

that could open the door

for calling Hunter Biden to testify.

Reporting from Capitol Hill,Abigail Robertson, CBN News.

- Thanks, Abi, and Pat, pollsshare the public divided

on impeachment, entrenchedalong party lines.

- I think they're divided,

and they're also bored to death with it.

Christmas is coming up, and they think,

can't those guys everget their act together

and start doing something,instead all this posturing,

because they know it's futile.

I mean, they know itwill lose in the senate,

so why even waste all this time,

you're just trying to justtrying to hurt the president,

but the polls that Ihave looked at recently

show that he's leadingagainst every single Democrat

who would be against him, sohis chances of being reelected

are very strong, andthis impeachment thing

is not going to make anydifference really at all,

and so it's just an exercise in futility,

and also vetting hatred,it's the Trump's syndrome,

what do they call it, you know? (laughs)

It's a type of psychosis thatpeople have gotten a hold of,

and Adam Schiff seems tobe the poster boy for that.

Trump said he's deranged, wellhe looks that way sometimes.

Well turning from that however,

the stock market hasreally been on a tear,

and those of us who happen tobe deeply in the stock market

are very pleased at the resultsthat are taking place, John.

- Pat, markets appear to be responding

to Washington's positive trade news.

The S&P 500, DOW, and NASDAQ

all closed at record highs Monday.

This on the news of the U.Sreaching a trade agreement

with China this week,

and last week'sannouncement that the house

approved the U.S MCA agreement

between the UntiredStates, Mexico, and Canada.

Stock Watchers also pointto individual stocks

reaching new altitudes as an indication

the market will continue to go up.

One potential drag, though,

Boeing's decision Monday to halt producing

of its 737 MAX Airplanes.

The company says no layoffs are planned,

but the impact still will be felt

in the airline and aerospace industries,

which border the aircraft.

Well turning overseas, Britain'sconservative government

plan to pass legislationaimed at limiting the Boycott,

Divestment, and Sanctionsmovement against Israel.

The new law would prevent public bodies

from working with groupsthat boycott Israel.

Lord Eric Pickle, Britain's special envoy

for post-Holocaust issues,called BDS antisemitic.

This comes after Britishprime minister, Boris Johnson,

won a landslide victory last week.

His opponent, Labour leader Jeremy Corbyn,

was accused of being anantisemite, and his party's

manifesto pledges to recognizethe state of Palestine.

The BDS movement, whichaims to force Israel

in to changing its policiestoward the Palestinians

through financial pressure, Pat,

as you know, thrives in Europe.

- Well it's overdue to seethe president has gone against

any school that is teachingthis kind of thing,

and it will withdrawfederal funds from it.

Same thing now in Britain,and I think it's time

that our Israeli friends get a break

from this incredible antisemitism,

but the opposition toBoris Johnson in England

was a strong antisemite,and that's the reason

that he lost so badly, John.

- Pat, along the same lines in belgium,

the United St, the United Nations rather,

has dropped its supportfor a carnival parade

we showed you on this program earlier.

Some of the parade floats feature

giant antisemitic pictures of Jews.

Dale Hurd has the story.

- UNESCO has removed Belgium'sfamous Aalst Carnival

from the UN's cultural heritage list

for its blatant displays of antisemitism.

We showed you a floatin this year's parade

that featured a Nazi styledepiction of greedy Jews

sitting on a pile of money,one with a rat on his shoulder.

Town officials had beenwarned several times

about antisemitic symbolismin previous versions

of the carnival, but failed to take action

on what kind of floats itdisplays were acceptable.

This 2013 float featureda Nazi railroad car

carrying Jews to a death camp.

- We really regret very deeply

that the community involvedhas not addressed this issue,

but we hope that thisdecision will help them

at least in the mitt of long-term

to address this issue appropriately.

- [Dale] The leader of the

Belgium League AgainstAntisemitism, Joel Rubinfeld,

told us he complained about the parade,

but the city said it was only humor.

- But you know, this kindof humor is killing Jews,

meaning Jews have the power,

Jews have the money,Jews have the control,

all this very basic antisemitic cliche.

- [Dale] This has been ayear of increasing awareness

of antisemitism in Europe.

It was a major issue in lastweek's British elections,

after claims of extensiveantisemitism in the Labour Party.

Violent attacks against Jewsin Germany have doubled,

and for the first time since World War II,

Jewish leaders have warnedthat it's too dangerous

to wear the kippah, or Jewishcap, in some parts of Germany.

- I mean, myself, Iwouldn't wear a kippah,

unfortunately, it's not safe.

Maybe I hope that itwill be safe in future,

or maybe it was safe in thepast, but right now in 2019,

no it is not safe at all, unfortunately.

- [Dale] A german magazineeven printed a paper kippah

for all Germans to wear toshow solidarity with Jews.

Dale Hurd, CBN News.

- Thank you, Dale, back here at home,

a whistleblower isaccusing the Mormon church

of allegedly violating federal tax laws,

and accumulating some $100billion in charitable accounts.

That's according to a storyin "The Washington Post."

The complaint charges that

The Church of Jesus Christof Latter-day Saints

has been storing up andreinvesting contributions

meant to be spent on charity.

The whistleblower is a formersenior portfolio manager

who worked at Ensign Peak Advisors,

the church's investment division.

Listed as an auxiliary of the church,

it operates as a non-profit organization

to help the church manage its money.

"The Post" reports thewhistleblower is calling on the IRS

to strip Ensign Peak Advisorsof its tax-exempt status,

alleges that it could owethe IRS billions of dollars.

In a statement to "ThePost," the church said

revenues go towards supportingthe church's mission,

and quote, "Investments can be accessed

"in times of hardship."

An award-winning quarterback is sparking

hundreds of thousandsin charitable giving.

Louisiana State University,Joe Burrow's Heisman Trophy

acceptance speech is benefitingOhioans living in poverty.

In his speech, Burrows spoke about poverty

in southeast Ohio, where he grew up.

- And I'm up here forall those kids in Athens,

and in Athens County that, you know,

go home to not a lot of food on the table,

hungry after school.

- [John] And Pat, thatsimple statement led to

thousands of donations tothe Athens County Food Bank,

as well as fundraiserthat's received more than

$260 thousand in donations.

- Well it's amazing thing,he is a remarkable athlete,

he went to Ohio State, he's from Ohio,

and he looked like hewouldn't be able to make it

in the first string quarterback,

so he winds up in Louisiana,and the next thing you know,

he's a Heisman Trophy winner,he's an incredible athlete.

And there's another Louisiana quarterback

that really hit it big lastnight with a record book broken

on a number of majorfronts by Drew Brees, John.

- That is right, Drew Brees,the New Orleans Saints,

set a record with his540th NFL touchdown pass.

The record breaker cameon a five yard toss

to tight end, Josh Hill,in the third quarter.

He breaks Peyton Manning's record,

playing against one ofManning's former teams,

the Indianapolis Colts.

The Saints won that game 34 to seven.

Pat, Brees said that he was disappointed

that he only completed 29out of those 30 passes.

- Well that is another record,and they say he's an old man,

he's 40 years old so--

- He's doing right well. (laughs)

- He's doing exceptionally well,

and he's a wonderfulChristian, by the way,

Drew Brees is a terrificguy, and I'm just delighted

to salute him for that kinda thing.

Well, Terry, what you got?

- Well coming up, a spiritual giant

in the evangelicalworld, Kenneth Copeland.

The international speakerand prolific author

joins us live.

That's later on today's show.

And up next, every human has a conscience,

and government shouldn'tbe messing with it.

So says the strong defenderof religious liberty.

What new hope does he see on the horizon?

Find out after this.

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- How did we come to this?

Hateful and bigots, that's how people

with long-standing Biblicalviews are now viewed

by a very powerful and vocal minority.

Well who's fighting backagainst this dangerous trend

and why does one defenderof religious freedom

see new hope on the horizon?

Paul Strand has the answers.

- As one who argues cases up here puts it,

the heart of religious liberty is this,

every human has a conscience,

and government shouldn'tbe messing with it.

- It's that inner voice that urges us

to choose the good and reject evil.

- [Paul] Luke Goodrichhas fought for this right

before the U.S SupremeCourt, and writes about

the huge challenges toit in "Free To Believe."

- When the government comesin and forces us to violate

our conscience, it's forcingus to against our human nature,

and violating a fundamental human right.

- But as America movestoward a post-Christian era,

issues seen by believers andtheir conscience as wrong

are now exalted, thereforeany opposition to them

is condemned as rank discrimination.

- Now those long-standingChristian beliefs

are actually viewed as a threat.

- [Paul] The biggest current battleground,

homosexual and transgender rights.

- The rapid advance of gay rights

is certainly the most significant

religious liberty threat today.

- [Paul] The government longago said you can't discriminate

based on someone's race or sex.

If the Supreme Court rules sexincludes sexual orientation,

or transgender status, in upcoming cases,

it cold mean real troublefor those with Biblical views

on human sexuality.

You could likely multiply by the thousands

new problems of the kindsuffered by baker, Jack Philips,

who refused to make a cakecelebrating gay marriage.

- Thousands of religious organizations

will face new lawsuits and new liability,

simply for acting on theirlong-standing beliefs

about human sexuality.

- [Paul] At one point, supporters promised

same-sex marriage wouldn't harm anyone.

Depending on how the court rules,

Goodrich points out how thosesame so-called peace makers

could go all out to get their opponents.

- To brand traditionalChristian beliefs about marriage

as a form of bigotry, an thenuse the power of the state

to punish those religiousbeliefs and practices.

- [Paul] On the other hand, Frank Wright

of D. James Kennedy Ministries,

maintains believers back onlyone man-one woman marriage,

because it's healthy for families.

- The Bible says it becauseit's for our welfare,

it's what enables families to flourish.

- [Paul] He saidhomosexuals and their allies

view that approach as bigotry and hatred.

- If they were to cometo me and say, you know,

"Why do you hate me?"

I would explain to them that that I don't.

You and I see thisissue totally different.

I don't hate you, why should I hate you,

or why should you hateme because we disagree?

- [Paul] As for the transgender issue,

the Obama administration mandated

that doctors and hospitals provide surgery

for men who wanted tobe turned in to women

and women in to men.

- Even when it violatedtheir religious beliefs

and their medical judgment,and if they didn't do that,

they would be deemed to be discriminating,

and would be subject togovernment penalties.

- [Paul] Abortion is anotherbattleground where supporters

try to demonize those whocan't and won't back it.

- If you, as a Christian,whether you're a doctor

or an employer, if you oppose abortion,

you're somehow denying healthcare to women

and discriminating against women.

- [Paul] Goodrich fought for both

the Little Sisters of thePoor, and Hobby Lobby's

pro-life stand before the Supreme Court.

- The government was trying to force them

to provide abortion causing drugs

in their health insuranceplans, or in their business,

even when their conscience told them

you can not participate in an abortion.

- [Paul] The court ruled in favor of both,

and Goodrich says believers can take hope

in how often their conscienceright win like that in court.

- We have a 90% win rate,and we're undefeated

at the U.S Supreme Court.

- [Paul] He warns,however, Christians need to

prepare for defeat and learnhow to show Christ's love

even to a culture that's turningmore and more against them.

- Much of scripture iswritten to Christians

who are facing suffering andpersecution for their faith,

and as Christians, we needto recall those teachings,

and let those influence us.

And it's not just about winning,or fighting a culture war,

it's actually more about being like Christ

in the midst of these conflicts.

- What Goodrich hopes for is a government

that just leaves religionalone as much as possible.

For instance, in public schools,

it shouldn't force students to pray,

but it can allow a time wherethey can pray if they want.

It shouldn't build a crosson government property,

but it could let one stand.

In other words, governmentshouldn't oppose

or promote religion, itshould just let it be.

Paul Strand, CBN News, reportingfrom the Supreme Court.

- Well the book is interesting,

called "Free to Believe TheBattle of Religious Freedom,"

Luke Goodrich, it's availablewherever books are sold,

"Free to Believe," Terry.

- Well up next, she wasa senior account exec

at one of the world's largest PR firms,

so why one earth did shewalk away from it all?

The answer's coming up.

Plus, he's half of thecountry duo, Branch & Dean,

what's behind their hit song, "The Dash?"

Dean Scallan shares the inside story,

and that's later on our program.

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- Stunned, that's howNicole Hayes' colleagues

reacted when she walked away

from her high-paying executive position.

After all, it was 2008, and the country

was going in to a recession,

so why did Nicole walk away,

and why has she never looked back?

Well you're about to find out.

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- And they're like, you know, our country

is going in to a recession, doyou think that's a wise idea?

I think some of them were stunned.

- [Narrator] It was September 2008

when Nicole Hayes left her jobas senior account executive

at one of the largestPR firms in the world.

- But for those whoknew me, like they know

that I felt that the Lord's leading,

and so I said yes, this is what I feel

the Lord is putting my heart to do.

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- [Narrator] For Nicole, thatmeant leaving the comfort

of a good, steady paycheck,and striking out on her own

as an independent PR and media consultant

for small Christian-owned businesses.

- I never looked back,and God has continued

to provide and provide.

I've never had to market myself,

the work has always just come.

- [Narrator] The move alsogave her the flexibility

to pursue another passion on the side,

giving Christians a voice in the media,

even when it's unpopular to do so.

In 2013, she started"Voices Against the Grain,"

a blog and podcast thatespouses Christian viewpoints

on social and political issues.

- Is there a way thatwe can provide the world

solutions to issues of our day

through a Biblical worldview?

And the answer is yes.

There was an opportunityto hear testimonies

from believers who wereadvancing God's kingdom

in what I call ado your own thing society.

- [Narrator] Then Nicoledecided she wanted

to take those Biblicalsolutions to the public sector

by working with non-profits.

For her, that meant going back to school

for a masters in public administration.

It was then a representativefrom Regent University

spoke at her church.

- My impression was this was a school

that was grounded in Biblical worldview

and that's something I was seeking.

- [Narrator] So in the fall of 2015,

Nicole enrolled in Regent'sonline masters program.

- Mine was a concentration in non-profit

and faith-based management,but it also allowed you to see

how do non-profits, andhow do local governments

work together to solveproblems for their citizens,

and how do you run a non-profiteffectively and ethically?

- [Narrator] And althoughher courses were online,

Nicole wasn't alone.

Through discussion boards,she quickly discovered

a vibrant, close-knit community.

- I felt connected by the fellowship,

sharing about who weare, where we're from.

Each week about the particularclass topic or discussion,

and we're also encouraging one another.

- [Announcer] Nicole Diane Hayes.

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- [Narrator] After earniNgher masters in 2017,

Nicole started lookingfor a full-time job.

Then she got an email from a stranger

asking to use a photo from her blog.

- I said, "Sure," and Isee in his signature block,

Christian Medical and Dental Association,

so I'm like, who's that?

- [Narrator] The ChristianMedical and Dental Associations,

or CMDA, is a non-profitorganization that equips, educates,

and empowers healthcareprofessionals and students

to be a voice for Christianvalues in their field.

- Their mission is to transform doctors

transforming the world, and I love that.

I said, wow, I said, they'renot ashamed to share Christ

with people who have not heard about him,

who have not heard thegospel, and I loved that,

and so I didn't see a jobposting on their website,

but I felt lead to send in my resume.

- [Narrator] Just one weeklater, Nicole's leap of faith

turned in to an offer tostart a new chapter of CMDA,

in Washington D.C where she already lived.

Still wanting to do her freelance work,

she prayed about the opportunity.

- God, if this is of yourwill, please confirm it for me.

If it's not, shut itdown, like shut the door,

and everything just keptgetting green light,

at green light, at greenlight, at green light.

- [Narrator] Nicole decidedshe could do both, so in August

2018, she stepped in to herleadership role with CMDA.

Her chapter works withstudents at four universities

across D.C and Maryland.

- I'm grateful God hasput me in a position

to mentor our young people,

to mentor our healthcare professionals.

I really love the heartof our young people.

- I know why God doesdifferent things with my life.

- [Narrator] Looking back on her journey,

Nicole is thankful toGod for all the people

and experiences he put in her path,

including Regent University.

- From start to finish,

Regent does everything in excellence.

There's just a Godly spiritamong folks at Regent,

and I could not have askedfor a better experience,

and you will not be disappointed.

- [Narrator] And for thosestill seeking God's direction

for their lives, Nicole has advice.

- All those questionssometimes we all have

about what is the rightpath, what is my purpose?

You gotta actually seekthe one who made you.

Most certainly, His plans for us

are far greater than we couldever imagine for ourselves.

- What a marvelous story.

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- Yeah, wonderful, shereally, it's wonderful to see

that she has taken this program of hers

out in to the academic worldand is making a difference.

We really need that, it's been outdated.

- Well it's nice that there'sa school that can help her,

and all right.- Yes, indeed,

Regent's such a beautiful school.

- So we go, what's?

- Well coming up, we've got 16 years ago,

Dean Scallan was a strugglingmusician in Nashville,

but today, he's part of thecountry music duo Branch & Dean.

What's the secret to his success?

Take a look.

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- [Narrator] Dean Scallon,half of the country duo

Branch & Dean, co-wroteand sings a hit song

called "The Dash."

He says that one little line,

seen between the years on gravestones,

represents an entire lifetime.

- It's what you're gonna dowith that dash that matters,

that's what matters.

I'm gonna spend my dashtrying to help people,

and I wanna spend my dash serving God,

because there is no better way.

- [Narrator] Dean movedto Nashville 16 years ago

to start his career in the music business.

Back then, when he'd takea break from writing songs,

he would sometimes watch t.v.

- The only program thatI really got was CBN,

and on one of the threechannels that I got.

I give to CBN because there'sbeen some of those times

of despair where I havenowhere else to turn,

and I wanted to get asclose to God as I could,

and CBN was a source for that,

so anybody that preaches Jesusis someone I wanna support.

- [Narrator] Deanstruggled to make ends meet

during those first few years in Nashville,

but he continued to tithe.

- It was so hard here.

We had good things going on,

but just the money wasn'tcoming like it should,

and I just said, all right God,

I mean I'm down to fumes here,

so I did the only thing I knew to do,

I put it all on the plate.

- [Narrator] After he gave to his church,

a family member had heardthat Dean was in need

and decided to help him out.

- And the next week, Igot a check for 20 grand,

and it just started escalating from there.

- [Narrator] Dean has continued

to tithe faithfully over the years.

Recently, he became a memberof CBN's Founder's Club.

- And the ore I've ever given,

the more he's always come back.

Tithing is a measure of faith,

and it is about believingthat God can give you

the tools you need to be prosperous.

I believe that.

- [Narrator] In addition tobeing a writer and performer,

Dean also produces for other artists

at his company, Straight Shooter Music.

- I'm so happy about it,and I wake up every day

loving what I do, and trying to be better.

And I do that to glorify God

'cause he's given me everything.

- [Narrator] As God has blessed Dean,

he in turn gives to others.

- For people out there who are trying,

who are wondering if they should give,

if what dos it even mean.

Try God, that's all, that'smy challenge to you right now,

try it, I say try to have somefaith, try God, try giving.

- You won't regret it.

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and needed prayer and encouragement,

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Well coming up later, what'sahead for America in 2020?

What about the deep politicaldivide in our country?

And will we see revival in our nation?

Kenneth Copeland shares his insights

on these pressing questions,and much more after this.

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Coming up after the breakon today's "700 Club,"

Kenneth Copeland joins us live.

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- Study new, my dears, ofconcepts never heard of before.

2020 will be a year of greatchange for our country,

and that's what KennethCopeland sees coming

for the year ahead.

What else could the future hold?

Take a look.

- [Narrator] PastorKenneth Copeland has been

a leading voice inevangelicalism for 52 years.

He's internationally known as a speaker,

an author of more than 100 books,

and for his t.v ministry,"Believer's Voice of Victory."

- All things work togetherfor the good of them

that love God calledaccording to His purpose.

That'd be, that'd be you.

- [Narrator] In recent years,

Copeland has given much thoughtto the state of America,

and what the future mayhold as a consequence.

No matter what transpires,

His motto "Jesus isLord" remains unchanged.

- Well please welcomeback to "The 700 Club"

my dear friend for manyyears, Kenneth Copeland.

Kenneth, God bless you.- Pat, thank you, sir.

I've got something for you.

- What's that?

Oh my, oh my, look at that!

That's a flying hospital.

- Yeah, number one of firsttime anybody ever did this.

This has been on my deskfor something like 30 years,

and I wanted to bring it back home.

- It's beautiful, thank you!

- [Kenneth] And just to bless you with it.

- [Pat] There was L-1011,and equipped for a hospital.

- [Kenneth] Yeah, it's just marvelous,

what a fabulous airplane.

- Oh it was and--- And--

- Thousands of people got healed.

- Oh my, and for thepeople that don't know,

this had never been done before.

- [Pat] That's right.

- And Pat Robertson, who else, you know?

The great innovator, but ithad never happened before,

and the operating tables had to collapse,

and they were strapped downin case of turbulent weather

in place for doctors and nurses,

it was a fabulous airplane.

- [Pat] Well it went around the world

and thousands of people got,- This is it.

- Kenneth, that is so beautiful.

- And Gloria and I were pleased to present

to Kenneth and Gloria Copeland

Operation Blessing International,

thank you for your support.

And I really wanted to writeup here, "Back to you, Pat."

But I didn't wanna mess it up.(both laugh)

- Well I appreciate it, Godwhat a nice Christmas present.

You know, I remember, youand I were flying together,

and I was a lousy pilot, youwere an experienced pilot,

and we were in that airplaneand the thing started to shake,

and I was thinking I've got the controls,

and you said, "You see that shake?"

I said, "Yes, Kenneth."

He said, "Well let hershake, that plane knows more

"about flying than you do."

(Kenneth laughs)Remember that?

- Yes, I do, very well.

- That plane knows more than you do.

Fortunately, I didn't killmyself and you were a good pilot,

but you know, you had a callto go be Oral Roberts' pilot,

and you were a student at the ORU,

and you were told you couldn'tgo to the eighth floor

and you did it, so tell me about that,

that was kind of an interesting--

- Well there was a sixth floor, and--

- [Pat] A sixth floor?

- And I'm 30 years old, so Gloria said

I was the oldest freshman in the world,

and so I didn't look like a student,

and I got away with it, you know,

but I walked through thedoors, the Lord said go on up,

I said to Lord, I can't go up there,

do you know, that's theVatican up there, I can't.

Why I said that, but anyway,

and I punched the, I couldn't do it,

I punched the fifth floor,and the door opened,

and it was just a big empty room,

and this is the ORU's first year,

and it's now the library and all that but,

and I just didn't a, Ijust pushed that cigarette

and finally I did, and Iwalked up to Ruth Rook's desk,

'cause I didn't know who she was.

I had no idea what I was gonna say.

And I just walked up there and I said,

"I'm a commercially ratedpilot, and I know this ministry

"has an airplane, and Ineed all the help I can get,

"thank you very much."

I wanted out of there so bad.

I turned around, Pat, Oralhad walked up behind me,

and I didn't know he was there.

I literally did this.

I turned around.

He said, "I'm Oral Roberts."

I said, (mumbles).(both laugh)

He might as well have said,"I'm God, who are you?" (laughs)

He said, "I understand you'rea commercially rated pilot."

I said, "Yes, sir."

"Can you handle our airplane?"

And I said, "Yes, sir."

He said, "Two weeks ago, Istarted to hire a new copilot,

"but the Spirit of God said,no, there's a student coming

"that I want to have thejob, and you're my man."

- God had spoke to him, a student?

- [Kenneth] Two weeks before.

- And you were it.

- And just a couple of days before,

I said, "Gloria, what are we gonna do?"

I said, "If I gotairport and get me a job,

"I don't have time to go to school.

"If I go to school, I hadn'tgot time to go get a job.

"What am I going to do?"

- [Pat] And the Lord provides.

- But see, He's already working on my job,

and so I was in two ofthe last tent meetings

that they had, and it startedjust a lifelong relationship

with him that lasted until he went home

to be with the Lord.

- Well you learned about miracles, though,

under Oral's teaching.- Oh yeah,

and I had the opportunitythat they kept giving me

different jobs, and thefirst I was driving his car,

and then they assignedto the invalid room,

and that's where people that were just so,

crowd, people that arereally sick, big crowds,

make 'em nervous, and hewould give the invitation,

and minister to the peoplethat answered the invitation.

He would stop on his way back,

they had a small little tablewith a curtain around it,

and he had all of hispartners on microfiche,

and he would lay his hands on his partners

and pray in the Spiritthere for a few moments.

Well they'd call andsteal told me, he said,

"You're gonna have aboutfive to seven minutes

"outlying his message,then you be prepared then

"to help the people and prepare them

"to have hands laid on them."

This is the first I wasin the invalid room.

Well he walked in there, andI stepped back out of the way,

he caught me by my coatand pulled me over to him.

He said, "Now, you'regonna do the praying,

"and you're gonna do thelaying on 'em hands."

I felt all the color was leaving my face.

I never done anything like that.

- And the seriously ill, youwere among the hopeless cases.

- And he said, "But don't touch 'em

"'til you're ready to release your faith."

I was studying at thetime under Kenneth Hagin,

listening to his tapes onthe power and authority

of the name of Jesus, and I thought,

my point of contact release to God,

I'm gonna touch them in the name of Jesus.

The first person we cameto was on an old army cot.

She was, and had a nursestanding there by her,

and he was an elderlywoman, you could tell,

but her little tummy'sall pooched out had there,

had a belignant cancer in her stomach,

and it was just a few steps there to her.

We walked over, I said,"In the name of Je,"

and just I touched her, hewas standing right here.

"Oh, you foul, uncleanspirit, in the name of Jesus,

"whose I am and who Iserve, take your hands

"off God's property."

I mean all the hair stoodup on the back of my neck,

and I just kinda tookthe air out of the room.

She took a couple of deep breaths

and blew that tumor out- Come on, Ken,

blew the tumor came out?- On the ground.

- Came out of her mouth, justblew it out on the ground.

- Wow.- That was my introduction to.

(Pat laughs)

- All right, let's talk aboutwhat the Lord showed ya,

that's awesome.- Oh praise.

- What's he showed youabout a miracle, man?

- Well, Pat, I pray aboutthe country every year,

as you do, but thisone was very different,

and very special, itcame in different parts.

I've never had that happen before, ever.

I've been doing it for a long time,

and that of course 2020yields itself to vision.

There's nothing wrongwith that, it's fine.

And the very first thing that happened,

the scripture there in the book of Acts

where Peter quoted Joel.

- [Pat] Yeah, in the latter days.

- So this is is that which wasspoken by the prophet Joel.

It shall come to passin the last days of God,

I will pour out my spirit upon all flesh,

your sons and yourdaughters shall prophesied,

your young men shall see visions,

your old men shall dream dreams,

and on my servants and handmaidens,

I'll pour out in those days of my spirit,

they shall prophesied, I'llshow wonders in heaven above,

and signs in the earth beneath,blood, fire, vapor of smoke,

the sun shall be turned in to darkness

and the moon in to bloodbefore the great and notable

lay of the Lord come,and it'll come to pass

whosoever shall callupon the name of the Lord

shall be saved, and hesaid this will be a year

when dreams and visionsare greatly increased,

and he said you're gonnasee sons and daughters,

he said there's gonna bean outstanding outpour

in my spirit that hasn'thappened since the '60s and '70s.

- Praise God.

- It's coming, it actuallyis here, and he said,

it's just gonna explodeamong our young people.

- [Pat] Wonderful.

- And he said there's gonna bea lot of dreams and visions.

I said, well I'm a oldman, I qualify for that,

so now I mean, it's justprobably two night sleep.

I've never experienced this before.

I dreamed I was in an airportto go to Nashville, Tennessee,

and I didn't need to go.

When the airplane was close to boarding,

I decided to go to the restroomand I didn't need to go.

I went to a restroom andasked if they had a restroom

I could use, and a young man said no.

I said, aw come on man,and I peeled off a bill

from a wad of money I had in my pocket.

Another young man was withus, and went with him.

They took me to therestroom, I decided to go in,

I decided to give theother young man a bill,

I noticed the billshad no numbers on them,

and Mac, I mean Pat, Ithought in this dream,

Mac Goldberg, and course,Mac's in heaven now,

and it said, MacGoldberg, who's in heaven,

was someone in the airport, and I thought,

Mac can hold that airplane for me,

and I jumped out of bed, andran and grabbed my notepad

and wrote it all down, just quickly

so I didn't lose any of it.

More confusion is comingin our financial system.

Who knows what money is worth?

But those who have gone before us,

the great cloud of witnesses led by Jesus,

are by intercessionholding things together

until the great changes come.

- [Pat] Until the great changes.

- Now.

- But what's that?

- I said, Lord, I knowthere's more to this.

2020 is wonderful and all that,

but I just, I didn't hear anything.

And then (laughs) I, wellfirst let me back up.

This happened on October the first,

I'm a little ahead of myself.

During our victory-thon,and we'd never had

a telethon or anything like that,

and they had a setbrought there in our home

which is just a littleways from the sanctuary,

and they had it there so I could butt in

as many times as I wanted to,

and I'm just sitting therewatching what's going on,

and suddenly, the Spirit ofthe Lord just came on me,

and I didn't know thecamera was still hot,

it just began to kind of flowout, I just spoke it out.

October the first.

Those politicians thatrefuse my call to unite

and become the United States of America

and not just America,

those politicians that refuse to listen,

those politicians thatcontinue the pathway of hate,

I will remove them from their place,

I will remove their influencefrom the record book,

and I remove theircandle in their families,

and I will remove them from office,

and put somebody in there that will.

That's what the Spirit of God is saying.

Well I thought, well,glory to God, that's it.

And I got it.

- [Pat] All right.

- Not quite.- Oh not quite,

that's just the warm up.- Now,

I'm on my way to heNavajo Indian reservation

where I've had ministrythere for a lot of years,

nearly 50 years.

And I'm just sittingthere on the airplane,

and it happened again.

And this is the reason I'm saying

this is a really special year,

'cause it just kept comingin pieces like that.

So October the 13th, wonderfuland magnificent changes

in the kingdom of God in the earth,

changes that will comebecause of insights,

ideas, and concepts directlyfrom Jesus to His church

by His mighty Spirit.

Glorious concepts of how His laws work,

the laws governing increaseand financial prosperity,

the laws of the Spiritthat release miracles

and divine healings, andmanifestations of His mighty power

on the earth, new conceptsof His love, His very person

for He is love, insightsin to the true power

and the strength of his joy.

It will be days of politicalchange, great victories,

and great defeats, for theSpiritual enemies of God

and the enemies of Hispeople shall be crushed.

Spirits, not flesh andblood, because you know,

sixth chapter of Ephesianssays we wrestle not

with flesh and blood, withprincipalities and powers.

- That's right.

- But there are those on bothsides of the political divide

who refuse to listen tothe Lord advocate general

of the church, theirdreams shall be dashed,

their desires shall be wounded,

they will be removed fromtheir offices and replaced,

some by the ballot, some by tragedy,

some who in despair will quitand go do something else.

This is the purpose, excuseme, this is my country,

saith the Lord Jesus, it wasfounded by people who loved me

for the soul purpose oftheir love and desire

to worship me and toworship the Almighty God,

I will never forget that.

Change, 2020, the year ofchange and manifested power,

saith the Lord.

- That is powerful.

I mean, people are just excitedabout hearing those words.

- It's the most detailed,for instance 2019,

in 2018 rather, we wereworking on our yearly calendar,

and I said, now, this you needto change that a little bit

because 2019 will be theyear of abundant harvest,

and there it was!- Yes indeed, for all of us.

- And that's the way it hasnormally come over the years.

But Pat, the intercession of God's people,

the supplication in theircrying out for this nation,

and your ministry and yourpowerful, powerful words

that come out your mouth, andI can tell most of the time

when it's just right thereyou're being a prophet of God

and it's right on the momentand it's very powerful,

and all of these thingshave come together.

- [Pat] I love it.(soft music)

- And it's taking place right before us.

- I love it.

Kenneth, they're playing thesong that says it's all over,

but thank you, my dearbrother, I love you.

- I love you, man.

- God bless you.- God bless you, sir.

- Thank you.

Kenneth Copeland, a dearfriend, wow, what a word!

You've heard it here on "The 700 Club."

Phew, well that's all the time we've got,

and I appreciate my dearfriend being with us,

and Lord willing, we'll be withyou the same time tomorrow.

See you then, bye bye.(dramatic music)

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