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700 Club Interactive - October 16, 2019

The Founder of Auntie Anne's Pretzels, Anne Beiler, shares about the death of her 19-month old daughter in her recent book The Secret Lies Within. Read Transcript


- [Gordon] 11 millionAmericans are mentally ill

and living on the streets.

- That's just a sin if you ask me.

- [Gordon] And it's only getting worse.

Plus, she lost her

19-month-old daughterin a farming accident.

- She saw Angie in front

of the Bobcat.

She was killed instantly that morning.

- [Gordon] The founder ofAuntie Anne's pretzels,

Anne Beiler.

All that and more on today's700 Club Interactive.

Well welcome to the show.

Three years after Los Angeles voters

approved a $1.2 billion bond program

to build housing units for the homeless,

an audit found that no units

had been made available thus far.

With only 19 projects under construction,

and only two to be completed

by the end of this year.

- Los Angeles and many other cities

across the United states are struggling

with the homeless,

many suffering from schizophrenia,

bipolar disorder, and suicidal depression.

What created this crisis?

And what's the key to turning it around?

Take a look.

- [Lorie] Today's homeless crisis

can possibly be tracedback to the last bill

signed by President John F. Kennedy.

In 1963, the Community Mental Health Act

closed America's insane asylums.

While this law helped transformthe often barbaric treatment

of the mentally ill,

it's also led to unforeseen problems.

- Yeah, well the road to hellis paved with good intentions,

and I think that's a greatexample, de-institutionalization.

- [Lorie] PsychiatristKenneth Rosenberg says

the sad consequence ispeople with those same issues

often go untreated today.

- That's just a sin, if you ask me.

And that's something thatwe really have to correct.

- About 11 millionAmericans have a serious

mental illness, such as schizophrenia,

bipolar disorder, suicidal depression

or severe PTSD,

which can render themutterly dysfunctional.

In his book Bedlam,

an intimate journey intoAmerica's Mental Health Crisis,

the author and filmmaker says

these people ping pong between the street

and a jail cell.

- Los Angeles is the epicenter

of this crisis.

The largest mentalinstitution in this country

is the LA County Jail.

The largest collection of people outside

is in Skid Row.

Skid Row is kind of like a day hospital,

if you will, for peoplewith serious mental illness.

- [Lorie] Add to thisequation an estimated

eight out of 10 peopleliving on the streets

struggle with addiction.

For the mentally ill,

that's like pouring gasoline on a fire.

- You know there are factors

that can bring a mental illness out

of the woodwork, opena window, if you will,

on serious mental illness thatwould otherwise be closed.

What are those factors?

Poverty, trauma, going to jail.

Unfortunately most of the mentally ill

end up in jail nowadays.

And above all else,

substance abuse.

- [Lorie] Although this perfectstorm may seem hopeless,

Dr. Rosenberg offers concrete solutions,

starting with community treatment centers.

- These are terrible diseases,

but people can get better.

They may not be curable,

but they are very treatable.

- [Lorie] Also expanding the number

of mental health courts.

- We can mandate treatment for people

who are too sick toknow that they need it.

- [Lorie] And developingdrugs that work better,

with fewer side effects.

- The medicines we're using forserious mental illness today

are 70 years old.

I think that's absolutely terrible.

God forbid you have breast cancer,

God forbid you have colon cancer,

you're gonna get a treatment

that's two or three years old,

not one that's 70 years old.

- For family and friends

of someone going through this,

Dr. Rosenberg says eating healthy,

lowering stress, sleeping well,

minimizing drug use where possible,

and feeling connected all help minimize

mental illness.

Doctors say psychotic illness typically

comes on between ages 17 and 21,

and the longer the brain goes untreated

the worse it becomes.

So early intervention is key.

- And there are people in your community,

in your church, in your synagogue

who could help you think this through.

The clergy are very proficient

in understanding how to deal with this,

how to send you to theproper healthcare providers,

people who will beconsistent with your own

spiritual practices.

- [Lorie] So while Americagrapples with issues

both past and present in treating

the mentally ill,

there's still hope by making it a priority

and using a variety of treatments.

Lorie Johnson, CBN News.

- Well it's certainly a difficult problem,

but our major cities,particularly on the West Coast,

are dealing with this on a daily basis.

And you look at whether it's Seattle

or Portland or Los Angeles,

you're looking at major populations

of the homeless.

And how do we deal with this?

How do we deal with this effectively?

- Well you know therehave been for decades

and beyond people who have been homeless

and living on the street.

But now it's like, it'slike a city within a city

is rising up,

and it's not good.

The repercussions that are yet to be felt.

- Yeah and we need to understand

the cost of caring for these individuals,

whether that's in the emergency room

or by the police force

and in our prisons is actually greater

than the cost of let's putin some housing for them,

let's have medical supervision

as part of that.

And how do we as a culture,

as a society solve it?

But we need to solve itbecause it's out of control.

Well coming up,

from college athlete to homeless addict.

- [Jacob] It wasdestroying me as a person,

it became too much.

- See the wake up call he never imagined,

when we come back.

(upbeat music)

Jacob blew his chance at college,

drugs stripped him of his scholarship,

and before long Jacobwound up a homeless addict,

hiding in a shed in his parent's backyard.

- I had to strive to try toget attention from my parents,

and try to be the best one in the family.

So a lot of my identity growing up

was based off of my abilityto perform in sports

and to be the best person,

to be the best athlete I could.

- [Man] Jacob Luggage was the youngest

of four children.

He grew up in a competitive environment,

and his Catholic upbringingshaped his view of God.

- I would say that I wasa very religious person,

so I felt like that I had to be

the best person that Icould possibly all the time

so that way I would gain God's approval

and gain God's attention

and gain his love.

- [Man] Attending a private school

with his three older siblings

provided Jacob an early opportunity

to join the party scene.

- My need for attention

and my need to stand out all the time

transitioned right into the party life,

and that became the next way

that I was getting attention from people

was just partying as much as I could.

- [Man] Jacob gained popularity

and he still excelledin sports and school.

His appearance on the outside however

was in direct opposition

to what he was feeling on the inside.

- The more popularity you get,

the more that you need.

The more drugs that I used,

the more drugs that I actually needed

to try to fill that void.

And I constantly tried to be something

that be somebody that I wasn't.

And so as I tried to gain that love

and attention

and fill that void in my life,

I continuously lost myself

even more and more in that process.

- [Man] Jacob's performance in sports

landed him a golf scholarship

to a nearby college.

- I knew that at the college golf level

that I was gonna have drug tests,

and it was gonna be much more stricter

on my behavior and the partying.

So I actually did really wellfor the first couple months,

and I was giving a really good effort

to try to be better

and try to take advantage

of the opportunity to go to college.

- [Man] Despite hisefforts Jacob got drunk

at a party and used marijuana.

- I very much remembersitting in my dorm room

that afternoon, having to call my parents

and tell them that I had just

failed a drug test incollege for smoking weed,

knowing that they weren't able to send

their other kids to college,

and Knowing that it was such a blessing

and such a privilegefor me to go to college.

And that was a reallY, really hard moment

for me to do that.

- [Man] His drug and alcohol use

cost him two college scholarships.

He left school and pursuedmixed martial arts fighting,

where he again foundsuccess and attention.

- I had a lot of recognition

for being a fighter,

and that was my identity.

And it helped fill that void

for the need for attention all the time.

And it helped fill that void in my heart.

But there was still,

I can remember many nights,

even after winning a fight

and being successful the waythat I thought I should be

and doing the thingsthat I thought I should,

many restless nights lying in bed

of just that feeling of hopelessness

and that feeling of depression,

and not knowing why I felt that way.

- [Man] Jacob's introductionto pain medication

began legally with prescriptions

for numerous injuries and surgeries.

But it soon took over his life.

- I was physically verymuch addicted to it,

but also mentally addicted to it as well.

All that feeling of depression

and fear and anxiety that have developed

throughout my life,

it would relieve those feelings.

And whenever I was doing pain medicine

I felt like I was invincible.

And I wasn't fearful,

and I wasn't depressed,

and I wasn't scared.

- [Man] As the drug use escalated,

Jacob lost his job and his home.

He moved in with his drug dealer

and started working for him.

- I had gotten down to about 119 pounds,

which is really, really skinny.

I was really physicallyin a bad spot there.

It was destroying me asa person on the inside

to where the fear and the pressure,

everything in life,

it became too much.

I no longer could handle it,

even despite the pain medicine.

- [Man] After being awakefor two weeks straight,

Jacob sneaked into his parents' shed

and slept there for three days.

When his parents discovered him

they took him to Home of Grace,

a Christian based recovery program.

Jacob was still going through withdrawals

from drugs when he experienced

his first taste of God's love.

- I got woke up one afternoon

and there was about 30 guys

had come into my room,

30 other clients and a couple

of the staff members,

they had all gathered in my room

and they all started tolay their hands on me

and began to pray for me.

And that was a very profound moment for me

because I couldn't understand

why all of these people were in my room.

I was in the lowest ofthe low point of my life

at that point,

and I had nothing to offer.

- [Man] He began his journey to freedom

with loving Christians

who showed him who Jesus is.

It all clicked one night in chapel.

- The pastor that was there preaching,

he gave an alter callafter he did his sermon

and I knew that I needed to get up

from my seat that night

and make my way to the alter.

And I needed to get down on my knees

and give my life to Christ.

And that's exactly what I did.

And I got up,

and I barely made my way up there.

I was still physically sick.

And I got down on my knees,

and I hit my knees,

and I just told God that,

God, if you can use my life, use it.

I'm done.

I am defeated.

I knew that God had savedmy soul in that moment.

And I knew that I no longerhad to fight anymore.

I didn't have to fight to gain the love

and gain attention from God,

that God just loved mefor the person that I was.

- [Man] Jacob's life changed quickly.

After completing time atHeartland Men's Recovery Program,

he went on to get hisdegree in biblical studies.

He now preaches at recoverycenters across the country,

and spreads his hope inJesus wherever he can.

- I get to live and haveabundant life today,

being a true follower of Jesus.

And Jesus is to me the perfect example

of how we are to live our lives.

How we are to humbly lay downour lives every single day.

My goal and desire is tobe an effective participant

in the church of God.

And that's given me the blessing

and the privileged to be able to speak

and preach all over the United States

at different recovery centers

to men and women that are going through

the same things that I was going through,

and to really show themthat there's a hope

and there's a future,

and that God wants to do the same thing

in their life that Godhas done in my life.

- And he wants to do thesame thing in your life.

All you have to do is dothe same thing Jacob did.

Here he is in the middle of despair,

he's gotten to the lowest of the low.

He's down to 119 pounds.

He's living in a shed.

And he said Lord here's my life.

If you can do anything with it,

I'm yours.

I'm done.

I turn it all over to you.

That's the complete surrenderthat God is waiting for

from all of us.

To say not my will be done,

but your will be done.

When you get to that point

of surrender, saying LordI need you to take over

'cause I can't do this.

I don't have the will power.

I don't have the means.

I can't, but I know you can.

And I trust you.

Here's my life.

If there's anything you can do,

would you take it?

Could you change me?

Could you remake me?

If you prayed that with all of your heart,

that's what Jacob did,

he did it with all of his heart.

I'm done.

You can do this.

If you do that, you'll get thesame answer that Jacob did.

And you see the transformation,

it's nothing short of miraculous.

To go from hopeless addiction

to a hope and a future,

and a destiny.

And that destiny is you can go out

and help other people.

What an amazing thing.

God takes you,

he saves you so that you can save others.

You can help others.

If you want this,

if you wanna hope,

if you want a future,

if you want a new life,

all you have to do is thesame thing that Jacob did.

Pray a very simple prayer,

and let God have control of your life.

Pray with me.

Jesus, that's right sayhis name, say it out loud.

Jesus, I come to you

and I lay down my life.

If you can do anything with me,

I want you to.

I give it to you

and I trust you with my life

and with my future.

Forgive me of the thingsthat I've done wrong.

Set me free from these compulsions.

Release me Lord God.

And if you do this I will follow you

all the days of my life.

Hear my prayer for I prayit in Jesus' name, amen.

Father, for those who just prayed,

I ask for deliverance from any addiction.

Set them free.

Set the captive free.

For we ask it in Jesus' name, amen.

If you prayed with me,there's one more thing

I want you to do.

I want you to call us

and let us know.

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Terry.

- Well still to come,

she's famous for her soft,hand rolled pretzels,

but nobody knew what Auntie Anne

endured before all her success.

Hear the secret lie she held within.

You don't wanna miss her story.

She's here live next,

so stay with us.

(upbeat music)

Auntie Anne became famous forher mouth-watering pretzels,

yet the secrets she kept hidden away

were slowly killing herfrom the inside out.

Take a look.

- [Man] Anne Beiler, creatorof the famous Auntie Anne's

pretzel franchise,

is known for her success,

yet what many don'tknow is the devastation

she endured before it,

when her 19-moth-olddaughter Angie was killed.

- My sister was driving a Bobcat

and hauling sand.

And as she was doing that

she didn't see Angie that morning.

And when she turned theBobcat to go forward

she saw Angie in front of the Bobcat.

She was killed instantly that morning.

- [Man] In her bookThe Secret Lies Within,

Anne recounts her story of loss,

the years of sexual abuse she endured

at the hands of her pastor,

and how the power of confession

saved her life.

- With me now is Anne Beiler.

It is so wonderful to have you here.

- Thank you, Terry, I'mdelighted to be with you.

- You grew up in a loving family,

but a family where,

and a culture within the context

of your family and your community,

where emotions weren't overt.

I mean you didn't really talk about

what was going on in your heart.

You kind of just put on yourboots and dealt with it.

- You just kind of get over it.

You know I don't remember ever coming home

from school and telling my mom

that somebody was unkind to me.

We just didn't talk about those things.

On the flip side of that was

as a family of 10,

we talked about a lot of things

because around the dinner table at night

it was like craziness and fun.

So somehow we missed outon this really talking

about things that bothered us,

and we pretty much just kind

of sucked it in

and just kind of get over it.

- And that is kind of theway of the Amish/Mennonite

community so it felt normal.

- It was very normal.

- I mean nobody was doing it, right?

- Absolutely.

- So now you marry your husband,

you become youth pastors,

and everything is going great,

and then there's a tragedy

pretty early on in your marriage.

Tell us what happened.

- Yeah, you know Terry I grew up

wanting to be a good girl.

I wanted mom and dad to,

I wanted to please my mom and dad,

and I wanted to please God.

And so I really wasn'tprepared for tragedy.

And September the 8th, 1975,

that's a long time ago,

but I remember every detaillike it was yesterday.

And so when Angela walked out

of my front door

of my little double wide trailer

and was walking up to my mom's house

for her second breakfast,

which she did every morning,

I watched her walk away.

And just turned around

and I thought well I'll call mom

and tell her she's on her way.

And we lived out in the country so it was.

- [Terry] Safe.

- Private.

Yes.

And when I reached for the phone

I heard all the crazy screaming.

And it was like immediately I knew,

my heart knew that Angie was gone.

I just had that (mumbles).

- She had been hit,

run over really by a farm vehicle.

- Correct.

Yeah, my sister was driving a Bobcat

and hauling sand for my dad,

and didn't see Angie that morning

until she turned the Bobcat around.

- So here you are not having learned

how to express emotion openly,

and now you suffer probably

one of the most traumaticthings a parent can suffer,

a mother can suffer,the loss of your child.

How did you deal with that?

- Not very well.

I just did what I always did,

and Jonas and I,

we talked about the accident.

We would talk about what happened that day

but we really weren't able to verbalize

how we felt.

I would never have said to him

I'm really sad today.

There were days I know that we would say

I miss Angie today,

butt here was never any feeling words

to really describe thedepth of our feeling.

So we, over time, just,

the great wall of China was built.

It was firmly in place

and there was really no connection.

- So your pastor offered to come

and help you walk through this.

And what happened there?

- Yeah and we were living

in a time in our lives

where we were spiritually,

we were very relationshipwith Christ was just

foremost in our hearts

and walking this journey with God

that was unbelievable relationship

versus religion.

And in this place it wasa very vibrant church

and everybody loved the pastor.

And when I went to see him

I was actually able totalk about my feelings.

It was amazing.

And before I left his office

he took advantage of me that morning,

and I decided right at the moment

that this would be my secret

that I would keep forever.

What I didn't realize was that secret

was beginning to holdme hostage even then,

and kept me in a sevenyear long relationship.

- Usually the perpetratorof something like that

knows that there's a reason

people won't out them.

- Absolutely.

- You went through years of abuse,

what made you actually come forward?

- I was sick and tiredof being sick and tired.

I weight 98 pounds

and was falling apart from the inside out.

Was unhealthy and was a terrible mother.

I was emotionally absent from my kids.

I was in the house,

but emotionally absent.

And I don't know, my desperation,

just, I didn't know what to do.

And believing all the time

that I was certainly unforgivable,

unlovable and unchangeable.

But I had the courage one day

to get up off my knees

and confess to my husband,

which was the bravest thing

that I'd ever done in my entire life

up to that point.

And took so much courageand just plain out guts

because I did not want to tell anyone.

- But it was the beginningof healing really.

It was a small window that began to open.

But it was the only light in the darkness

that you lived in emotionally.

It took a lot of courage to do that.

You say there are threekinds of confessions

that are significant in ourbeginning the healing process.

Share those.

- Absolutely.

I learned that bedside prayers

is always a safe place.

And we do that in our pain.

And it's the right thing to do.

And Jesus always hears us.

I stayed on my knees for seven years

and begged him to deliver me.

The second type of confession

is found in journaling,

like David did in Psalms,

and we love him because he was so real

and raw and honest.

And that really is a therapeutic,

is very good to be able to do that.

It helps you through,

but the one to another confession

found in James 5:16 is the power.

And that's what I began to live.

- One of the things that I think happens

when you do that is when there's a secret

and you think nobody knows it,

you feel safe from the secret,

but the shame that comes with all of that,

just builds and builds and builds.

How did telling someone face to face,

your Jonas was the beginning to that,

your husband,

how did that break the bondage of shame?

- You know I don't understand the power

of confession,

but I'm telling you it works.

And the morning that I told my husband

there was something thathappened to me inside,

there was a spark of hope inside of me

that I hadn't felt in years and years.

I didn't think that was even possible.

But as I was able to just be real

and raw and honest with my husband.

That confession changedthe trajectory of my life.

And it's really found in John.

He talks about bring yourdeeds into the light.

If you walk in the light,

as he is in the light,

then you will havefellowship one with another.

And then the blood of JesusChrist cleanses us from all sin.

It's all about bringingour deeds into the light.

And that broke the power of my secret.

- The power of the enemy.

- Amen.

- Fear and shame.

- Absolutely.

- Holds many, many of us there.

Don't let that happen to you.

If you're struggling withissues in your own life

and you feel shame or guilt,

get it out in the open,

it's the beginning of healing.

Learn more from Anne.

Her book is called The Secret Lies Within

An Inside Out Look at Overcoming Trauma

and Finding Purpose in the Pain.

It's available in stores nationwide.

Anne, thank you for sharing your story.

- My great pleasure, Terry,

thank you.

- Thank you.

And thank you for joining us today.

Here's a scripture we'dlike to leave you with.

It's Psalm 86:5.

For you, Lord, are good,

and ready to forgive,

and abundant in mercy

to all those who call up you.

Thanks for being with us.

God bless you today.

We'll see you again tomorrow.

Find Peace with God

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