- Well, did a spacecraft crash in Area 51?

Some people think so.

Are there little green men out there?

Are we being visited byaliens from outer space?

Can E.T. call home?

Well, people want answers.

A tiny Nevada town is bracing for

a different invasions of millions.

On social media, you'llsee they'll storm Area 51,

because the government is telling people

to stay away while others want to know

what they're trying to hide.

- [Reporter] Many people wonder

about the existence of UFOs and aliens.

Some people even speculatethat the government

knows about them andis hiding information.

The question still remains,

is there life on other planets?

Dr. Hugh Ross is an astrophysicist

who believes in God.

- You have to have a just right star

where the planet's a certaindistance from that star.

The planet has to be a particular size.

- [Reporter] Dr. Ross has examined

the farthest reaches of the universe

and offers his ideas aboutlife on other planets

that are scientific and biblically based.

- Well, Dr. Hugh Ross is here.

He's written a book called quote,

"Lights in the Sky and Little Green Men."

Dr. Ross, it's so good to see you.

How come you're into this stuff?

- Well, it all began when I was 16.

I was organizing the Astronomy Club

in Vancouver, Canada.

They have booth at thePacific National Exhibition.

And they put us right next

to the Flying Saucer Club.

So, although I didn't have any intention,

I wound up becomingquote an expert in UFOs

because that'd talk to them would say,

"What do you think?"

And every university where I served at

I processed the UFO reports.

- What are they?

Is there any life out there

or is this all just fiction?

- Well, I mean, we areaware as astronomers

that there could be as manyas a trillion trillion planets

in the universe and they've now discovered

and measured over 4,100 planets

beyond the solar system,

but what's interestingis that none of them

are like any of the planetsin our solar system,

which lead to the interesting discovery.

Every one of the eight planets plays

a critical role in makingadvanced life possible

here on earth.

So, while many astronomers think maybe

we can find microbes on other planets,

the idea that we'regonna find life like us,

I mean, we now know that that's

an extremely remote possibility.

- Well, you know, your book

about our incredible planet is so moving

because you go into detail about all

the wonderful things that we have on earth

that other planets don't have.

It's to support life, it's unbelievable.

Your studies in that isso much faith-filled.

- All my peers focus onthe water habitable zone,

the liquid water habitable zone.

But they're 12 other no-inhabitable zones

and for a planet to be truly habitable,

it must simultaneously reside in all 13

of those zones.

And there's only one planet

that we've seen in the entire universe

that does reside in all those zones

and I'll let you and your viewers

guess which one that is.

- And you go into detail though

in this book about all the people

who believe in Area 51,

about little spaceinvaders of strange people

with big heads and weak bodies

and E.T. calling home and so forth.

How has this spread sowidely in our society?

- Well, millions ofpeople claim to have had

encounters with UFOs.

And the vast majorityyou can explain as simply

natural phenomena orhuman activity or a hoax,

but there's a 1% residual that actually

you can show is real, but not physical.

Now, I had Carl Saganas a professor briefly

when I was at the University of Toronto

and he denied UFOs totally.

It's because his world view

did not permit the existence

of non-physical reality.

As a Christian, I realize God created

two different speciesof intelligent beings.

Humans, that are physical and real

and angels that arereal, but not physical.

Now, when you examine this 1% residual

of the UFO sightings, you see that they

consistently violate the laws of physics,

but nevertheless, youcan prove they're real.

For example, there areliterally hundreds of places

where UFOs have crashed into the ground.

You go to the sight,the found is depressed,

vegetation is damaged, snow is melted

if there's snow that's there.

Obviously something real happened there,

but there's no debris,there's no artifacts

and when the UFO is observed coming

through the atmosphere,

let's say 18 to 25,000 miles per hour,

no sonic boom, no heat friction.

If it was a physical object,

you would get a sonicboom and heat friction

and there would be debrisat the crash sight.

So we're dealing with something

that obviously is real,but it's not physical.

And I'm not the onlyphysicist that's saying this.

I know of a half a dozen other physicists

and astronomers who are not believers

who draw the same conclusion that I do,

that whatever is behind the occult

and witchcraft and demonology

is also behind this residualof the UFO encounters.

- Residual, what do angels do?

Why isn't there someevidence of their presence?

- Well because, there is evidence.

And saying that there's clear evidence

that something real is happening

and there's evidencethat it's not physical.

They violate the laws of physics,

so it's non-physical reality.

Jacques Vallet, who is not a believing

UFO investigator, says it'sinterdimensional phenomena.

He believes there are beings operating

in dimensions beyond the universe,

which is very compatible with what

the Bible says about angels and demons.

- Tell me about what would an angel do.

You know, you mentionedthe incredible distances

between planets, how doangels travel between them?

- Well, they're not subjectto the laws of physics,

so things like the velocityof light aren't a problem

for them or the fact that there particles,

interstellar space havedestroyed their spaceship.

We know these can't be physical craft

coming to the earth 'cause they would have

to travel so far andif they were to travel

at a high velocity, the beings on board

would be killed.

So we're dealing with something

that's not subject tothese laws of physics

and angels fit into that category.

The other thing that's interesting

is the closer theencounter that people have

with UFOs, it's 100% deleterious.

Nobody has a positive experience.

And which is why I believeit's the fallen angels

that are responsible for this phenomena

and I think what I write about in the book

is that you see a correlation between

the degree of occult activityin an individual's life

and their UFO experiencesand I end the book

by saying this is scientifically testable.

Close the doors to occult activity,

that will be the end ofthese UFO experiences.

The reverse is also true.

If you open up these occult things,

don't be surprised if youget these kinds of visits

and it's not gonna be pleasant.

- Well, so these are fallen angels?

That means there are demonic spirits

that are causing this phenomena?

- I'm convinced that they're demonic

and, again, I'm not alonein drawing this conclusion

amongst scientists who havestudied this phenomena.

I think what's unique to us

is that we're putting aChristian perspective on it

and saying, you know,here's how you can put

it to the test scientifically,

so actually say these are ways you'll

open up doors to the occult.

It also explains why, for example,

I've spoke on UFOsfrequently in the Soviet era

in Russia and that's whenthe scientific community

was involved in occult physics

and that opened up the doors

for these demons to influence them.

It explains why they're having way more

UFO experiences thanpeople here in America.

- These people talk about being captured

and taken into a spacecraft and carried

into other places?

Are demon spirits doingthat actually you think?

- Yeah, I don't think they're actually

being physically takeninto a physical craft.

- [Pat] Okay.

- It's the demons taking control of them

where they begin to think that this

is what's happened to them.

That's why we have a chapterin the book on abductions.

But, abductees are people who typically

have had very close encounters with UFOs.

It was a physicist Alan Hynek,

who was sponsored by the U.S. government

to study UFOs who came up with encounters

of a first kind, secondkind, third kind, fourth kind

and as you go from one to four,

you're gonna get a closerand closer encounter

and in cases of communicationsof three and four,

people are actually communicating

with these spirit beings.

So for example, there is the Uruntia book,

which is communicated by these demons

and it was done through automatic writing,

4,000 page book.

A third of it is denyingthe deity of Jesus Christ.

So it kind of gives you an idea

of who's really behind all this.

- So these demons areactually causing people

to have delusions?

They think they're being taken captive?

They think, and there's always some evil

at the end of it.

- Right, but there's a way out.

- [Pat] Yeah, okay.

- Close the doors to the occult

that'll eliminate these experiences.

Demons need permission to invade your life

and that's, you know, alot of what's going on

and the other thing I'll point out

is this is not a new phenomena.

It's been around for thousands of years.

But the demons keep pacewith our technology.

- [Pat] Yeah.

- UFOs a hundred yearsago were slow moving

dirigibles in the atmosphere.

Now they're flying saucersat 18,000 miles per hour

and then the information they give you

about the universe is keeping pace.

- But this is incredible.

The demons are actually keeping pace

with our size and bringing

these delusions to people?

- Well, that would be a good strategy

who are intent on deceiving us about

what's really going onin the spirit realm.

And so it makes sensefrom their perspective

that they would keeppace with our technology.

- Well, do the good angels have

a counter balancing force?

- Well, it tells you in Hebrews 13:2

that many have entertainedthe good angels unawares.

God sends these righteous angels

to assist humans intheir Christian ministry

and they come and go.

But likewise, they're also part

of this non-physical reality,

but they're on God's sideas opposed to Satan's side.

- Well, you remember when theywent into the Promised Land,

Joshua found the army ofthe Lord was there with him

and that was angelic.

- It was angelic.

God created two different species

of intelligent beings.

- Incredible, incredible.

- Well, let me ask youin terms of, you know,

I know they've got something they put out

called creation science and you have done

such a marvelous job of showing

to the Christian population the truth

of the origins of life and the beginning

of our universe.

What are we looking at?

Is it 14, 15 billionyears, is that about the?

- Well, the age of theuniverse has been measured

to be 13.8 billion years.

- [Pat] 13.8.

- And we actually have telescopes

where we can look far enough back in time,

they're actually watchingthe universe being

created, literally withina hundred billionth

of a trillionth of atrillionth of a second

of a cosmic creation event.

- [Pat] Incredible.

- Explains why weastronomers are coming forth

with such compelling scientific evidence

for the God of the Bibleand the Christian faith

because we can directlyobserve events in the past.

- Is the Big Bang the whole thing?

There apparently was a tiny,

was there any matter, a tiny bit,

that was compressed and then exploded

and became the universe that we know of?

- Well, the universe that was created

was a infinitesimal volume.

But God created it dynamically where

it was expanding right whenthe cosmic creation event,

and continues to expand to this day,

but one of the compelling evidences

that there's a supernaturalbeing designing it,

it's expanding at exactly the right rate

at exactly the right time

throughout all the cosmic history

to make advanced lifepossible on one planet.

I mean, what's behind the UFO thing

is the idea there's all these planets

with intelligent beingson it and we now know

a couple of papers just got published

making the point ifthere is intelligent life

in the universe, it'sgot to come after us,

'cause it takes a miniumof 13.8 billion years

to prepare the universe for advanced life,

so we have to be the first

of the physical intelligent beings.

- The entire universe,

that was your premiseand I think it's so fast,

that this enormous universe was designed

to have life here on this one planet

and we are the epicenter.

- You certainly need the whole universe

to be exactly that size that it is

and the age that it is with all the matter

and energy that's in it to get one planet

in which advanced life was possible.

The whole universe exists to make

our existence possible.

- You know, that's anoverwhelming statement.

- It tells you how much God must care

and love for us, if he was prepared

to create all this stuff tomake our existence possible.

- So we're pretty special.

You know I was readingin Paul talking about

that the church, toshow the principalities

and powers, the wisdom of God

that he was centered in the church,

so the Christian people are pretty

important then, aren't they?

- They are and we humansare very important

and the redemptive messagethat God was trying

to achieve is crucial.

I'm writing books now making the point

that every event of the universe,

earth and earth's life and every component

of the universe, earth and earth's life

was designed to play arole to make possible

the redemption of billions of human beings

from sin and evil.

I believe the whole universe was created

with that fundamental purpose in mind.

- That we are the center,

so what we do is extremely important.

Winning people to Jesus is a huge thing,

then in the cosmos.

- It is, yeah.

The cosmos was designed for evangelism,

to put it lightly.

- That's good news for all of us

who are trying to win people to the Lord.

- That's why I'm so passionateabout bringing people

to faith in Christ islooking at the universe

and realizing it was designedfor that very purpose.

- Where do you see the end of it?

Is there any forecast of how long

this is gonna go on?

- There is in the sense that we realize

that it took this minimum time to open up

a narrow window in whichwe humans could exist

in a civilized state.

We knew that the window opened up

less than 100,000 yearsago and it's gonna close

in less than 100,000 years.

And some think it's gonna close

within thousands of years or less,

so year, we're nearing theend of the window of time.

- Will it burn firm and heat,

is that the idea?

The whole thing.

- It tell us that in Isaiah and 2 Peter,

that the end of the universe,

it'll be rolled up like a scroll

and end in a fiery heat.

And there are actuallyBig Bang creation models

that predict that very thing.

- To come back to that, the one day,

does the sun explode asfar as we're concerned?

What happens?

- Well, if you wait long enough

the sun will get so bright

that it'll incinerate the earth,

but that's a good 4 billion years away.

- I'm sure I won't be that old.

This is fascinating.

I appreciate the work you do

and that book in the incredible planet,

ladies and gentlemen ifyou haven't got a copy,

you ought to get it.

I'll build your faith like nothing

you've even seen and this is interesting.

"Lights in the Sky and Little Green Men."

- Pat, if people are interested in that,

we're actually offering a free chapter

at reasons.org/700.

That's the place whereyou can get the book.

- Oh, a free chapter, reasons, dot.

- So if they want to seewhat the book is about,

we give them a little taste of that.

- Thank you.

Dr. Ross, you're a treasure and you're

gonna be lecturing toour faculty at Regent.

- I'll be doing that tomorrow.

- It'll be wonderful,I'll look forward to it.

Well, thank you so much.

Hugh Ross, ladies and gentlemen.

If you want to have your faith built

about what a great God we serve,

this is the guy that'll tell you about it.