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Faith Nation: April 24, 2019

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- The push for peace in the Middle East,

a look at how the puppetadministration is geared up

to release it's long awaited plan.

What Medicare for All couldactually mean for Americans

and migrant crisis in Mexico

as the President pushes theMexican government to do more,

South American migrants seeking asylum say

they're being treated unfairly.

All this and more tonight on Faith Nation.

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The debate over Medicare forAll heads to Capitol Hill.

Welcome to Faith Nation, I'm John Jessup.

- And I'm Jenna Browder.

The Democrats gearing upfor their first ever hearing

on a plan to eliminateprivate health insurance

in favor of a government run program.

They will state their casenext week in the House.

- That is right, CBN NewsCapitol Hill Correspondent,

Abigail Robertson joins us now with more

on the Democrats' big plan, Abigail.

- Well, one thing Republicansand Democrats do agree on

is that the Americanhealthcare system is broken.

And Republicans and evena few Democrats contend

that replacing what'sbroken with a government fix

could be a recipe for disaster.

- Healthcare is a humanright, not a privilege.

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- [Abigail] Ever sincethe Democrat front runner

unveiled his single payer plan,

it has the central campaign issue of 2020.

- The best way to go forward in my view

is for a Medicare forAll single payer program.

- [Abigail] Now Bernie Sanders

is taking the Medicarefor All plan on the trail.

- We need to have Medicare for All,

that's just the bottom line.

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- [Abigail] CaliforniaSenator, Kamala Harris

is also clamoring for agovernment healthcare takeover.

- And having a systemthat makes a difference

in terms of who receiveswhat based on your income

is unconscionable, it is cruel

and it is in many situationsI have witnessed, inhumane.

- [Abigail] But the visionof more affordable coverage

that lowers the number of uninsured

is meeting a political reality.

- So if I'm elected, I'mnot gonna force you off

your private healthcare plan.

- [Abigail] Congressman SethMoulton is the 19th Democrat

entering the race but he's no proponent

of a single payer system.

- I think every Americanshould have access

to good affordable healthcare

but I made a commitment to continue

getting my own healthcare at the VA

when I was elected toCongress, that's single payer.

And I tell you, it's not perfect.

- [Abigail] Bob Moffit ofThe Heritage Foundation

says that plan is theclosest thing in the U.S.

to Medicare for All.

- That is a very bad way torun a healthcare program.

What we've seen with theVeterans Administration program

is something that hasbeen positively scandalous

where you have thebureaucratic manipulation

of waiting lists resultingin the delay and the denial

of care and in a numberof cases Veterans died.

- [Abigail] Moffit contends that

cutting private insurancecompanies out of the equation

is a bad solution.

- The result would be something

like American medical clinics

being turned into the equivalentof Soviet grocery stores.

- Now President Trumpinsists a Republican plan

will be ready for a voteafter the 2020 election

but Moffit says that'stoo little, too late

and that the Presidentshould articulate a vision

of healthcare reform now.

- Abigail, what about the costof a Medicare for All plan,

many people wonder is that something

that's economically feasible?

- Well, right now the estimatesare very high for this.

Some estimate that thecost of Medicare for All

is anywhere from $25-$35trillion over just 10 years

and under the plan some180 million Americans

would see their privatehealth insurance replaced

with a public plan, soit's certainly not cheap

to implement this.

- Abigail Robertson reportingon Capitol Hill, thanks Abby.

- Well, it looks like healthcare

will be a big decidingissue in the 2020 election.

That's what we are seeing in the lead up

to the Democratic primaries.

A new poll from Morning Consult finds 25%

of likely primary voters say healthcare

is the most important issuein choosing a candidate.

22% say it's the economy.

That same poll finds Joe Bidencurrently leading the pack

of Democrats vying for theWhite House with 30% support.

He is officially planning toannounce his bid tomorrow.

Bernie Sanders is rightbehind him with 24%.

- Well, the President doesn'twant any White House aides

past or present testifying before Congress

in the numerous investigationsit has launched against him.

President Trump told The Washington Post

it's unnecessary because hefeels he already complied

with the Mueller investigation, saying

"there is no reason to go any further

and especially in Congresswhere it's very partisan."

It's a sentiment he expanded upon today

before leaving the White House.

- And I thought after twoyears we'd be finished with it.

No, now the House goesand starts subpoenaing.

Look, these like aren't impartial people,

the Democrats are trying to win 2020.

They're not gonna winwith the people that I see

and they're not gonna win against me.

The only way they can maybe luck out

and I don't think that's gonna happen,

it might make it even the opposite,

that's what a lot of people are saying,

the only way they can luck out

is by constantly goingafter me on nonsense.

- The White House reportedly is planning

to use executive privilege

after the House JudiciaryCommittee filed a subpoena

for testimony and documents

from former White HouseCounsel, Don McGahn.

Meanwhile, as Democrats decide

whether to go the route of impeachment,

President Trump isalready saying he wouldn't

let the move stand.

Warning today on Twitter,quote, "if partisan Democrats

ever tried to impeach, Iwould first have to head

to the U.S. Supreme Court.

Not only are there no highcrimes and misdemeanors,

there are no crimes by me at all."

The issue of impeachmentseems to be driving a wedge

among Democrats.

House Speaker, Nancy Pelosiis urging members of her party

to hold off but some saythey're ready to move forward.

- Well, John Sullivan isthe Executive Vice President

at The Hill and he joins us now for more.

John, good to have you.

- Good to be here.

- John, what do you make ofall this talk of impeachment?

- It's a moment ofcatharsis for the Democrats,

they waited two yearsfor the Mueller report,

didn't turn out the waythey thought it would

and I think they need to rally their base.

Remember a lot of peopleare raising money right now.

There is about 22, 23 candidatesin the 2020 primaries,

so it's a good fundraising thing,

it's a good rally at the base.

At the end of the day, I thinkNancy Pelosi had her words

when she says I don'tthink we're gonna go there,

that's why God made elections for.

And I think at the end of the day

this is more about election nearing

then it is about the progress

of an impeachment investigation.

- John, President Trumpsays that he's ready

to take this issue to the Supreme Court.

Some question if that's even possible

given that that's theprerogative of Congress.

What are your thoughts on this.

- Yeah, looking at thelegality, it's a tricky case.

Now, a good lawyer isusually gonna find any reason

to get before the court,a loophole or something,

I don't think it gets herethough, I really don't.

I think there could be some battles

over executive privilege.

I think the President mayinvoke executive privilege.

The Democrats in Congresswill challenge that

and they may end up in court there.

I don't think a case of over impeachment

will reach the courts at this point.

- Yeah, the House, ofcourse, has the votes

to impeach the President but

with a Republican controlled Senate,

it is very unlikely thatthey would convict him.

John, is President Trump gettingout ahead of his skis here

by even bringing up the Supreme Court?

- I think the President saw

what the last two years was like, right?

He passively sat there, for the most part,

cooperating with investigationand got bombarded.

I think you're seeing himon a more offensive strategy

which is getting ahead ofany move by the Democrats

and letting them know you want a fight,

it's gonna be a real fight this time.

And I think that that'sgonna be the strategy

heading into the 2020 election.

You're gonna see a moreassertive president

and if you're the Democrats,you might wanna watch,

I think this president's gonnastart to release information

about the other party,

he's seen enough released on him.

Keep an eye on that dynamic,I think you're gonna see

an effort of transparencythat may put the Democrats

on the defensive.

- John, to the other investigationDemocrats are pursuing,

President Trump is tryingto block their efforts

denying witnesses totestify on Capitol Hill

also withholding his taxreturns or any other documents

he wants to keep private.

By not cooperating doeshe in a round about way

make a stronger case forimpeachment for the Democrats?

- Listen, there's a dynamicin the American people,

we always expect ourPresident to be transparent.

It's one of the thingsthat comes with the job

whether we like it or not.

This feels like an openingnegotiation from here,

the President's gonnaput down a hard line,

I'm not cooperating atall and maybe they'll come

to the table and reach some agreement.

If you take the President in the way

that he conducted himself duringthe Mueller investigation,

you have an enormousamount of cooperation.

A million of a half documents wavered,

all of his privileges, hisattorney-client privilege,

his executive privilege.

He's a President that hasa history of cooperating,

now we need to see whatsort of deal he'll strike

with the Democrats on cooperating.

At some point I think there'll be a deal

to get some insight into these issues.

- And there's talk thatthis also buys him time.

This slow rolls in theinvestigations to really kind of

put Democrats in a tough position.

- Yeah and I think the President,

I think if you look at the polling data,

people are little bit tiredof the investigations,

they've had enough, they'veheard it for two years.

I think there's a momentwhere America wants to

suck in some fresh air andstart on some other topics.

Also you saw the Presidentmeeting with Nancy Pelosi.

There's a dynamic going on in trying

to get other things done,like infrastructure,

legislation we need tomove the country forward

and sometimes by holdingthese investigations at bay

you can get some of that other work done.

So I think it's a two trackapproach to immigration

and infrastructure beingimportant to the President

as policy items that aren't right yet.

Jerry Nadler's gonna be there today,

he's gonna be there six months from now

and I think he's trying tobalance that equilibrium.

- And John in your latest piece,

you write that the winner ofthe Robert Mueller sweepstakes

as you call it is not PresidentTrump, is not the Democrats

it's Vladimir Putin.

What do you mean by that?

- Well, it's funny deep in the story

there are some prettyimportant intelligence voices,

one of them being theformer CIA station chief

from Moscow.

If anyone understandsRussian spy trade craft,

it's the guy that used to beour station chief in Moscow.

He says when we look back at the evidence

and you read everything from Mueller,

he has a complete different interpretation

of what went on in 2016.

So Obama left this narrativewhen he left office.

President Obama left us anarrative that Putin tried

to swing the election,get Donald Trump elected

and then defeat Hillary Clinton.

There's clear evidence the Russians

hacked Hillary Clinton'semails and the DNC.

The assessment about whetherthey were really trying

to help Hillary Clintonhas always been in doubt.

In fact, I think the NSA Spy Chief

once testified at best he had medium

or mediocre confidence in that conclusion.

What experts are nowsaying is when we look

at the whole thing, it lookslike the Trump Tower meeting

may be the stuff that wasbeing fed to Glen Simpson

was what is known inthe spy trade craft as

discoverable influence operations,

meaning Vladimir Putin intendedfor these things to be found

so that the American publicwould be in a tizzy about it,

a very interesting thing.

But if you look at hisphilosophy or his underpinnings

for this, alright, they sentthe lawyer to the Trump Tower

who was declared as a Russian lawyer

and in the country only by the graces

of the Justice Departmentwho gave her a special visa.

If you were trying todo a secret handshake

with the President thathijacked the election,

would you send someonewho was that identified

and monitored, you wouldn't.

Same thing about if you take a look at

who Christoper Steele'salleged source was,

it's a former Russian intelligence source,

would you really use that person

for secret clandestine communications?

I just don't think that's it.

So I think there's a rethinking going on

among intelligence professionals

and if that happensVladimir Putin's already won

'cause he has us doubtingfor another six months

in our democracy.

- John, as you just pointedout, it's clear that Russia

did meddle in the 2016 elections

but because it was all thrown in

with the Mueller investigationit seems as though

it makes it harder for thePresident to accept the findings.

Is that a loss for us as we head into 2020

knowing that the Russiansprobably want to disrupt again?

- I think you have to takethe President on two levels,

what he tweets and says sometimes

and then what he actuallydoes as President.

If you take a look at the sanctions

he's issued against Russia,they're far more sweeping

than anything Barrack Obama did.

And keeping in mind BarrackObama had seven months warning

that these things had happenedand didn't do anything.

He's also if you take a look

at the way the HomelandSecurity Department

and Justice Department dealt with states

in 2018 during theelection far more proactive

communication warnings,

the second of any sort of hacking attempt

everybody gets alerted.

That didn't happen in 2016, soin his actions the President

has been fairly assertive on the issue

that we don't havehijacking of an election

through hacking andother things in his own.

Then he's trying to defend himself

and it's a little more nebulous

to the American public I think.

- And John looking at the 2020 Democrats,

Joe Biden expected toannounce his bid tomorrow,

it keeps getting pushedback and pushed back.

What does this say anddoes it hurt his chances

for fundraising?

- I don't, I think he'll beable to raise plenty of money,

he's the heir of the Obamaera, the former Vice President.

He had a great following inthe Senate, he's very likable,

the base particularlyestablishment Democrats,

maybe not the far left wingbut the establishment Democrats

will certainly raise money.

I see some fundraisers alreadyscheduled in Hollywood.

I don't think it willhurt himself in all that,

I think what he's really trying to gage is

can I win this primarywith how far the party

has moved to the left.

We're talking about the otherday there was a town hall

and we were talking aboutgiving voting rights

back to a terrorist, right?

And that's how far the party's moved,

that's not the Joe Bidenof the last 35 years

and his record and Ithink he has to figure

where do I fit in thisparadigm and can I win it

and I think that's all that's going on

behind he scenes, I would expect him in.

- John, we only half abouta half a minute left.

You just heard at thebeginning of our show

Abby Robertson reportingon Medicare for All

by the Democrats, does thePresident put Republicans

at a disadvantage by holdingoff releasing the GOP plan

until after the election?

- That's a great question, I think, listen

every polling we've doneat The Hill has shown

that people want a Republican plan

that's an alternative to this.

I think at some point theRepublicans are gonna come up

with a plan, I bet you it willoccur before the election.

Maybe not the President'splan but something general

that Republicans can rally around.

- Alternatives, sort of.- Yeah.

- John Sullivan thank you so much

for doing this.- Good to be here thank you.

- Thank you John.

Well, President Trump'sMiddle East peace plan

is set to be released in June

after the Muslim holy month of Ramadan.

The Palestinian leaders saythe long awaited proposal

will be dead on arrival.

CBN News White HouseCorrespondent, Ben Kennedy

joins us to explain, Ben?

- Well, Jenna Palestiniansactually cut off diplomatic ties

with the U.S nearly two years ago

so finding common groundwith them on Israel

just does not look good.

Presidential Advisor,Jared Kushner stopped short

in releasing details of their proposal

but said the plan willrepresent a comprehensive vision

for peace.

- Our focus is really on the bottom up.

- [Ben] That focus aims to

tackle the Israeli-Palestinian conflict

with a fresh perspective.

The President's son-in-lawand advisor, Jared Kushner

says there will need to becompromises on both sides.

- How do you make the lives

of the Palestinian people better,

what can you resolve to allow these areas

to become more investible?

We deal with all the core status issues

because you have to do it but we've also

built a robust businessplan for the whole region

and I think that the two together

have the opportunity to push forward.

- The challenge lies

with the Palestinian Authority leaders

who have refused to speakwith the White House

since President Trump recognized Jerusalem

as Israel's capital.

How do you get them tothe table to even talk?

- Well, I don't know ifthey're gonna be able

to get them to the table becausethe Palestinian Authority

from Palestinian President, Mahmoud Abbas

to many other Palestinian officials said

this peace plan is really dead on arrival.

- CBN Middle East BureauChief, Chris Mitchell

says President Trump facesobstacles on both sides.

Do you think the plan willcall for a two state solution?

- I think it's gonna stopshort of a two state solution.

I think Secretary of State,Mike Pompeo signaled that

just a few days ago whenhe spoke before Congress.

- [Ben] That plan could alsobe a hard sell for Israel

given recent election results.

- Israeli Prime Minister,Benjamin Netanyahu

right now is forming a government.

Part of that government arethree major religious parties

and if they see anythingin this peace plan

that touches anything they consider holy,

especially the city of Jerusalem,

they will reject it out of hand.

- Now Chris says itwill be key to watch for

how other countries like Egypt,Jordan and even Saudi Arabia

react when the plan is unveiled.

Those countries have shown frustration

with the Palestinian issueand could actually seek

their own peace deals with Israel, Jenna.

- Ben, we're also hearingPrime Minister, Netanyahu

seeking to name one of theGolan Heights settlements

for President Trump.

- Yeah, Jenna, you're right,pending government approval,

a Jewish settlement in theGolan Heights would be named

after the President.

This move is one way tosay thank you to Trump

for recognizing Israel'sauthority over that territory.

- Which is one more example of the love

between the State ofIsrael and President Trump.

He recognized Jerusalemas Israel's capitol,

moved the U.S. Embassy to Jerusalem

now recognized sovereigntyover the Golan Heights.

I think this is yet again President Trump

showing his supportfor the State of Israel

despite what any other nationsays in the Middle East.

I think it's an amazing signof how much the State of Israel

and in particular Israeli PrimeMinister, Benjamin Netanyahu

appreciate what PresidentTrump is doing for Israel.

- This is not the firsttime Trump has come up

to be named after something.

Back in 2017, after he recognizedJerusalem as the capitol

of Israel, an Israeli minister proposed

putting the Commander-in-Chief's name

on a new train station.

And again as Chris just says,it just shows the strong bond

between Trump and the State of Israel.

Jenna, John.

- Thanks Ben.

A judge in Oregon is set toissue an injunction against part

of the administration's TitleX Family Planning Program.

A portion of the measureprevents federal funding

from going to healthcareproviders that offer abortions

or refer patients to abortion providers.

It was set to take affect May 3rd.

But now a federal judge says he'll block

at least the part of TitleX dealing with abortion

calling it a quote, "ham-fisted approach

to public health policy,

one that emphasizes a political issue

over Title X's stated goal

of reducing unintended pregnancies."

- [Jenna] Another SouthAmerican migrant caravan

is making it's way to the U.S.

How Mexico was working tostop it when we come back.

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President Trump continueshis calls for Mexico

to step up to stop migrantstrying to make their way

into the United States.

It comes as Mexicangovernment is being criticized

for being violent with migrants trying

to make the trek for freedom.

CBN News National SecurityCorrespondent, Eric Philips

joins us with more on bothsides of this debate, Eric.

- Well, Jenna even thoughthe President's first warning

about closing the border did not happen,

some say it was enoughfor Mexico to take action,

perhaps, too much action.

Still the President wantsmore as he made clear

in a pair of tweetsWednesday that said in part,

"a very big caravan of over 20,00 people

started up through Mexico.

It has been reduced in sizeby Mexico but is still coming.

Mexico must apprehend the remainder

or we will be forced to closethat section of the border

and call up the military."

This comes just a day and ahalf after Mexican authorities

conducted their largest raid to date

on migrant's travel into the U.S.

Officers targeted thetail end of a caravan

in Chiapas, Mexico's southern most state.

As many as 500 migrants werepicked up at the checkpoint.

Some forcibly detained,including women and children.

That alleged action sparking trouble

and federal response.

Honduran migrant, Patricia Rosa says

those who escaped said theycouldn't find their children.

Other migrants who spoketo reporters on the scene

say Mexican authorities went too far.

Honduran migrant, Kevin Escobarasking why do they do this?

We came calmly he says, wehave not attacked anyone.

Mexican President, Obradorsays immigration agents

are clamping down to searchfor human traffickers

allegedly infiltrating the caravans.

He also acknowledges theneed to control the flow

in respect to the United States.

He says the underlyingapproach we are making

to the United States government

is to urgently support the development

of the brother countriesof Central America.

A Mexico Human RightsCommission officer says

respecting human rights is also a priority

and he will investigate claimsthat unnecessary violence

was used during the raid, Jenna.

- Now, Eric the President wasalso tweeting this morning

about guns being pulled onNational Guard soldiers,

what did he say about that?

- Well, the Presidentsaid Mexico's soldiers

recently pulled guns on ourNational Guard soldiers.

He says probably as a diversionary tactic

for drug smugglers on the border.

He said it better not happen again

and he said that the U.S. isnow sending armed soldiers

to the border.

Then he reiterated thatMexico is not doing enough

in apprehending and returning migrants.

- And Mexico's PresidentEric said the clamp down

is for the safety of these migrants.

Is that a reasonable explanation?

- Well, Jenna given the factthat this is the largest influx

of migrants Mexico has ever seen,

I mean, we're talking about 300,000 since

just January alone and thefact that human trafficking

is very pervasive, it seemslike a reasonable explanation.

However, pressure from the United States

certainly ratchets thisup on the priority list

for everyone involved.

- Indeed alright, Eric Philips, CBN News,

National SecurityCorrespondent, thank you.

- Well, the Trump administration

is combating the opioidcrisis as a top priority.

Today the President and FirstLady traveled to Atlanta

to participate in the 2019Prescription Drug Abuse

and Heroin Summit.

- You are the doctors,nurses and counselors

who give strugglingcitizens the hope and solace

and strength to build abrighter and brighter future.

And you are the familiesand faith communities

who helped thousands ofAmericans overcome addiction

for a new life of freedom.

- And around 48,000 Americans died

from opioids in 2017 alone.

- [Jenna] Coming up, alook at what lawmakers

are calling the next stepin criminal justice reform.

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- [Narrator] Young people, millennials

are flocking to church.

- It's not an exaggeration to say

that we love to meet them

and that we love to know their stories.

- Well a pair of bipartisan lawmakers

have introduced a measure aimed

at furthering criminal justice reforms.

- That's right the Clean SlateAct comes after the passage

of the First Step Act was signed

into law by President Trump.

This new measure wouldseal a person's record

if they have been convicted

of a simple possession of marijuana.

It would also allow non-violent offenders

to petition the courtto seal their records

for other crimes.

The aim is to open the doorsfor employment and education

for those with a criminal past.

The Clean Slate Act was introduced

by a Democraticrepresentative from Delaware

and a Republican from Pennsylvania.

- Well, that is a wrap fortonight's Faith Nation.

- Have a great evening.

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