This mother and adult son will discuss this 30-year ministry in Africa of their late husband and father, Peter Pretorius, and his new book, Death-Defying Faith, that was finished just before he died.
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- Gambler, Grand Prix racer,and rich tobacco farmer,
who is this?
This was the life of South African,
Peter Pretorius, for years.
And then a miracle led himto a lifetime of sacrifice
that changed the wholecontinent of Africa.
Take a look.
- [Narrator] Peter and Ann Pretorius,
co-founders of Jesus Alive Ministries
and Joint Aid Management have led
over 12 million Africans to salvation
and provided more than 1.2 billion meals
to starving people.
Prior to Peter's death in August of 2018,
he shared his story of howGod used an ordinary man
to bring hope and healingto a devastated nation
in his book Death-Defying Faith.
- Well, welcome to the 700 Club
and our dear friend Ann Pretorius,
the wife of Peter Pretorius,and their son Isak.
Ann, Peter was an amazing man.
Were you with him when he wasdoing all that crazy stuff
before he found the Lord?
- I actually was, Pat, yes I was.
So I can give testamentto the life transformation
that took place.
It truly was a DamascusRoad experience that we had.
- Well what happened? Whatbrought him to the Lord?
- Well his father was dyingafter a double heart attack
and he was desperate, andhe tried to find somebody
who could pray, finally did.
They prayed for him and his father
was totally, miraculously healed.
- [Pat] Oh!
- So Peter was confrontedwith this miracle
and realized there isa God, He does exist,
and He's there for me,He answered my prayers.
And so that's how it all began.
And then the man who led us to the Lord
then came visiting us on our tobacco farm.
Taught us the message of salvation
and everything changed.
- That is amazing.
Well Peter, I didn't know Peter before,
but I knew him after, and he was
a powerful man of God.
And we had the privilege ofhelping him along the way,
but he led how many millionsof people to the Lord
did he lead, do you knowwhat the numbers were?
- It's over 12 million, in fact.
Soon after his death, the records came in
from the field again and I realized,
"Oh Peter, I hope you know this.
"We went over the 12 million mark."
(laughs)
- Isak, well, are you following
in your father's footsteps, first of all?
- Absolutely.
I guess our family's journey with Jesus
started in the supernatural.
God healed my grandfather and showed us
that God was the God of the supernatural.
I think when you grow up aroundthat often side of people,
I grew up a privileged upbringing,
and they think I lived in a fancy home
and I went to a fancy school.
But the reality is thatmy privileged upbringing
was that as a young child,I got to fly all over
the continent of Africaand sit on a platform
watching my dad preach to people,
and watching Jesustouch and heal the blind
and the deaf, and the crippled,
but also being able to workin humanitarian operations
all over the continentwhere as a youngster,
I was working in refugee camps
in places like the Congo and South Sudan.
And really just gaineda huge understanding
for the power of God, for who God was.
But I guess most importantly, for what God
wanted us to do as a family
and what the responsibility was.
So following in dad's footsteps was,
it wasn't a question or a choice,
it was a calling.- Sure.
- And something I knew Ihad to do with my life.
- [Pat] As I recall, over500,000 people in the Congo
he led to the Lord.
I believe it...
- You were a part of thatwith my husband, yeah?
- I know, I know, we helped him.
Peter was such an inspiration,
but I just can't...
You know, and the thingthat struck me about Peter,
he was so ashamed ofapartheid and he was so happy
when Nelson Mandela was elected president.
He felt liberated.
- Totally, because a white South African
with an Africana name, itwasn't an easy situation
to be in, and yet we had pioneered work
into the informal settlementsand into the townships
when whites weren't actuallyallowed to go there.
So it wasn't the other way around.
And the Gospel had to go out.
And so yes, he definitely pioneered that
and he loved doing it.
It just was an absolute heartbeat to him.
- Was the opposite, the name Pretorius,
the capitol he named, theyused his name, you see.
But was the opposition inSouth Africa to his stand
for Mandela and--
- It was opposition,they watched us closely.
From time to time,there were even lawsuits
that started developing,and God gave us favor
every step of the way.
We were actually accused at one stage
at running a club on our mission base
because they said, "We saw black people
"were swimming in your swimming pool."
And Peter just laughed.
He thought that was so amusing
that they would call that aclub that we were running.
In the meantime, it was our ministry
and these were our coworkersthat were working with us.
- What'ss happening, by the way, in South,
are you still in South Africa?
- Yes, yes, our headquartersare still there.
- I understand there's a bigcrime wave, is that true?
- Oh yeah, the crime has been terrible,
the corruption has been awful
and we really trust inGod for a breakthrough.
It's such a beautiful country.
- It's gorgeous!
I was down there with, we hadour own broken down airplane
and Peter and I flew thatplane down and parked it.
I said somewhere of getting rid of it,
we left it in South Africa,
and I don't know what ever happened,
but we wanted to get rid of it.
Peter and I flew downthere to South Africa.
Well, he was such awonderful guy, you know,
- He really was.
- I know how much you loved him.
- He was a man driven so much by passion,
and that's why I'm soexcited about the fact
that we were able to record the stories.
It was hard to get him to do so
because he was so focused onpioneering the next exploit,
but to capture the storieswide ranges of Africa
of more than three decades,
it was just a privilege towork on the book with him.
And it was only completed threeweeks before he passed away.
- Oh it was really?
Did he sort of feel likethat this was his life story?
- He did feel like it was his life story
and yet he never wanted it to end.
He wanted the book to just go on and on
because that was his dream.
He had no idea that he wasgoing to pass when he did.
- What kind of miracles did he have
when he was out there on the field?
I mean, all I know was the numbers
and he was asking for trucks and things
to carry tents and hegot all that equivalent,
and I think we helped him along the way,
but what were some of the miracles he had?
- Well, we saw the blind see,we saw the crippled walk,
we saw the most amazing things happen.
We saw transformation take place
in countries like Rwanda, we went in.
And a lot of what we have done, Pat,
is the demonstration of the Gospel.
Demonstrating that lovethat says Jesus loves you
and cares for you, andpeople have a question
in their heads when you'regoing to a real tough situation,
they wonder why you came there.
And when they understandJesus knows where they're at
and he wants to bring a solution for them.
So many many doors have opened to us again
and Isak's really involved, he's excited
to be preaching in prisons,to be ministering the Gospel,
to be demonstrating it.
- Well I think that's part of the miracle.
Often people say, "Whatmiracles have you seen?"
And immediately you thinkof the blind who have seen
or the crippled who have walked.
But God has done so manymiracles through the ministry.
Just creating opportunities for us.
The most recent, I would say,is the Prison's Authority
in Kenya, they agreed to allow us
to do a trial in one prison
where we could go and preach in the prison
and then we could establish our Christian
Discipleship Program that we have,
which is 50 hours of training.
We put that into the prison.
The Prison's Authority were so confronted
by the transformation inthe lives of those prisoners
that they have opened every single prison,
over 300 prisons in the whole country
and said, "Come preach the Gospel
"and come put in theDiscipleship Training Program."
They have now made it an official part
of their rehabilitation curriculum
for prisoners in the country,
and we're just seeing God transform lives.
One prisoner who had a life sentence
he got born again throughthe ministry in the prison,
he attended the full 50 hours of training.
He ended up getting outfor exemplary behavior.
He started a church in that same area,
now has a large church that he's leading,
and he's an on-fire Evangelist.
To me, those are miracles.
God's favor the miracleof being able to take
the Gospel to not justthe poor in physical,
but those that are so pure in spirit
and setting the captives free.
And there's no better wayto set the captives free
than to take Jesus into the prisons.
- Well you think ofKenya, you think way back
to the mwarmwar, you think of the stuff
that went on in South Africa, the killings
and the hatred, you'rebringing reconciliation
and love, aren't you, between the races?
- Yeah, we've witnessedit in our own lives
and family, the truelove, grace, and mercy
of Jesus and what that means.
I think that was the firethat burnt in dad's heart.
It's what drove mom anddad's vision and commitment
to the ministry was thatothers needed to understand
and know the power of Jesusand needed to understand
the power of the grace, love,and mercy that Jesus brings.
And that drove that, and Ithink that's just continued
to be, for assward, beat in our heart
is that there's still people out there
that don't know who Jesus really is
and know much He loves them.
- I see these pictures of all this family,
how many children andgrandchildren have you got?
- We're competing with you, Pat.
We've got six childrenand 14 grandchildren.
- Well good for you.
I have 14 great, great,
I've got the 14 and thenI've got the 14 great, great,
so I'm a little ahead of you,
but keep going, keep going.
It's a big family. That's wonderful!
- Yeah, it is wonderful,
but that reconciliation that we've seen
has just been beautiful.
From my own personal experience, Pat,
my youngest sister and her husband
were brutally murdered in South Africa,
and offering two little, a four-year-old
and a two-year-old, it wasthe most traumatic experience
for us as a family.
And it could have stopped usfrom taking the Gospel further.
But the power of thatforgiveness that came upon us
to release that man and let him go,
understanding that he wasdriven by forces of evil
and that God could reconcile our hearts
to the people who've just dosuch terrible atrocious things
and I think that's why we're so happy
to be able to get intoprisons today as well.
- Well, you're alsofeeding the hungry too.
There's a big feeding program isn't there?
- We provide over a million meals a day
to children in schoolsall over the continent.
- [Pat] Fantastic.
- And so we're able to not just feed them,
but we're able to ensurethey get an education,
which we all know is the only way
that we can ensure theyhave a brighter future.
Providing water wells, more than 200 wells
that we drill every yearall over the continent.
And then very involved inagricultural development
and helping communitiesto become sustainable,
so that we're not needingto provide for them
into the future, but we'reproviding an opportunity
for to live up to what our tagline
is that, "We're helpingAfrica help itself."
But we really feel that that's what God's
called us to do.
- [Pat] Where do you getthe resources for this?
You got people in Africa orpeople in the United States?
Who's helping?
- We've got people allover the world, Pat,
and we're so grateful to them
and we call them partners.
Not donors, because theirpartnership means we
can do so much together andthat's where our partnership
with you has been ofsuch immense value to us.
- Well me, I just can't tellyou what a dear dear friend
your husband was, Peter, was a great man
and a wonderful friend,and well it's called
Death-Defying Faith, that'sthe name of this book
and the ministry is available to help
with Death-Defying Faith
and the ministry is called what?
- [Isak] Jesus Alive Ministries.
- Jesus Alive, oh.
- And then Joint Aid Management, or JAM,
is the humanitarian organization.
- Well they're wonderfulpeople ladies and gentlemen,
I'm just thrilled they're here with us.
The memory of my dear, dear, dear friend
Peter Pretorius.