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Faith Nation: March 15, 2019

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- [Jenna] Tonight.

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A shooting massacre.

Terrorist attacks targettwo mosques in New Zealand,

leaving at least 49 people dead.

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- [John] And after blaring raid sirens

signaling terrorist rocketattacks on Israeli citizens,

Israel strikes back,hitting 100 military targets

inside Hamas-controlled Gaza.

- It makes a difference.

- [Jenna] Back in Washington,

Democrats are pushing a federal bill

to ban widely-defined discrimination

against LGBTQ Americans.

- [John] And a new law in Kentucky marks

a major pro-life victory.

- All this and moretonight on Faith Nation.

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- Targeting Muslims in New Zealand.

Welcome to Faith Nation, I'm John Jessup.

- And I'm Jenna Browder.

- We begin tonight with the tragedy

on the other side of the globe.

49 people are dead,and at least 48 injured

after the shootingmassacre in New Zealand.

- The two separate shootingstargeted two mosques

where hundreds of Muslims were praying

in the city of Christchurch.

At least three suspectsare in custody tonight.

CBN News White Housecorrespondents Ben Kennedy

has the latest on thedeadliest terror attack

in New Zealand history.

- Well, John and Jen, NewZealand's prime minister calls it

one of the nation's darkest days.

This was a well-planned strike,

and the first terroristattack on New Zealand soil.

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Worshipers at midday prayers gunned down

at two mosques in thecity of Christchurch.

- They just came in, they were shooting,

and I'm thinking that, "Oh no,

"if I get out, I'll get shoot,"

so I'm just keeping my fingers cross.

- [Ben] In addition to those killed,

nearly 50 others wounded.

Multiple IEDs were alsodiscovered attached to vehicles.

- Clearly, what has happened here

is an extraordinary andunprecedented act of violence.

- [Ben] Behind that violence, police say,

is a man in his late 20snow charged with murder.

Two others are also in custody.

Faith leaders like Russell Moore Tweeted

that we should pray and work

for swift justice against these murderers.

- We're obviously greatly disturbed

by what seems to be a terror attack,

this hate crime in New Zealand.

- [Ben] President Trump Tweeted,

"My warmest sympathyand best wishes goes out

"to the people of New Zealand,"

adding that the US stands by New Zealand

for anything we can do, God bless all.

As for the motive, it's reported

the man claiming responsibility posted

an anti-immigrant manifesto online.

The suspect even livestreamedthe attack on social media.

- I'm 66.

Never thought, in my life,

I'd live to see something like this.

- To put things into perspective,

the sheer magnitude of this attack,

the National Police Statistics report

that more people weremurdered in this one attack

than are usually killed in anentire year in New Zealand.

Officers are now warningpeople to stay away

from mosques in the event of violence.

Ben Kennedy, CBN News, Washington.

- Senseless violence.

Thanks, Ben.

World leaders have been quick

to express condemnation for the attacks,

expressing sympathy for andsolidarity with New Zealand.

- Gordon Robertson, the CEO here

at the Christian Broadcasting Network,

offered his heartfelt condolences

and a strong condemnation of his own.

Here's Gordon.

- We have freedom of religion.

We have freedom of assembly,

and we're not going to let this kind

of terror attack deter us.

We need to have a free and open society.

What we're running intois a bizarre dialectic

where the rise of Muslim extremism,

the terrorism that comes with that

has now led to a rise inwhite nationalism and fascism.

Here's what this gunman said.

He said, "For once, the personthat will be called a fascist

"is an actual fascist."

It's just bizarre to me

anyone would ever wantto claim to be that.

How did fascism arise?

Well, it arose from the NationalSocialist Party in Germany.

It was originally a political movement,

and it rose in response towhat communism was doing

on the other side of the Russian border.

They became virulently anti-communist,

and in that, somehow, struck a chord,

and got enough supportto get elected to office.

It's absolutely bizarre to me

that anyone would want to go back there.

The terror that they unleashed,

the murder that they unleashed,

let's not go there.

- In political news tonight,

religious freedom advocatesare sounding an alarm

on the new Equality Act.

Democrats introduced this version,

touting it would be a ban, rather,

discrimination basedon sexual orientation,

but as CBN's Abigail Robertson explains,

opponents say the billis anything but equal.

- Males identifying as females

using the women's locker room,

faith-based adoption andfoster agencies required

to place children with same sex couples,

and florists forced to fillorders for same sex weddings.

Critics tell me these are just a few

of the potential results

if the Equality Act becomes law.

- Every American should be treated

with dignity and respect,but our laws need to protect

the constitutionally-guaranteedrights that we have.

- [Abigail] Greg Baylor andthe Alliance Defending Freedom

handled numerous religious liberty cases

in states where laws like theEquality Act already exist.

- Now, under the Equality Act,

we will have a nationwide law,

so we will see aproliferation of instances

where Christians andothers are being coerced

to violate their beliefsin order to comply

with such a law.

- [Abigail] While introducing the bill,

Democrat lawmakers talkedabout making the protection

of same sex individuals a priority

over other constitutional freedoms.

- We cannot allow claimsof religious freedom

to be used to discriminateagainst an LGBT individual.

- It makes a difference when any level

of government or any corporation says

that this sort of discriminatory behavior

and action is wrong.

It makes a difference,

and it provides thoseof us in our community,

the LGBT community, with the tools

that we need to fight back.

- [Abigail] Baylor maintains the bill does

much more than that.

- One of the interestingthings about the Equality Act,

compared to the last version,

is that it actually strips us of our--

- The bill is expected

to pass the Democrat-controlled house,

and even has a few Republican supporters,

but as of now, the Senate is not expected

to bring it to the floor this session.

Reporting from Capitol Hill,

Abigail Robertson, CBN News.

- Thanks, Abby.

Monica Burke is areligious liberty expert,

the Heritage Foundation.

I sat down with her earlier

to discuss a piece she just wrote titled

Seven Reasons Why TheEquality Act Is Anything But.

Monica, when people hear aphrase like The Equality Act,

they think that's somethingwe all can get be--

- Yeah, the Equality Actreally is anything but.

It's kind of a misnomer.

The Equality Act wouldactually further inequality

by hurting everyday Americans.

It could be used to imposea nationwide bathroom bill.

It could be used to impose

a national preferred pronoun policy,

and yet another healthcare mandate.

- The Equality Act raises the profile

of cases like Jack Phillips,

the Colorado baker whorefused to bake a cake

for a same sex wedding whose case went

all the way to the Supreme Court,

so we know how thisaffects business owners.

How does it affect average Americans?

- It could affect the average American

in a lot of different ways.

It could affect not only businesses,

but it could be usedto shut down charities.

There's a center for women

who have experiencedsexual abuse and trauma,

and been sex trafficked allthe way in Anchorage, Alaska,

and they've actually been sued

on the basis of gender identity

because someone who is a biological male

wanted access to their shelter.

It could affect thoseaffected populations.

It could be used to coercemedical professionals

to perform transition-affirming therapies

against their best medical judgment,

which, in turn, would politicize medicine,

which would create an expectation

that all physicians pursuethose courses of therapy,

and they can potentially affect families

and parental rights forparents who don't want

to pursue that course oftherapy for their children,

so it has a ripple affectthroughout society.

- You wrote an article about the ways

that this could affect people.

One of the ways that you also mention

was compelling speech.

Can you talk a little bit more about that?

- The problem with theEquality Act is that,

by the law speaking and saying,

"This is what we're going to accept now

"as the new cultural norm,"

it actually precludesany kind of compromise.

It precludes people coming up

with local solutions thatrespect everyone's freedoms,

that ensure we treateveryone with respect.

Absolutely, we want to furtherdignity for all people,

including LGBT individuals,

but this bill is not the solution.

It would actually further inequality.

- How should people respond?

- The way that we always want to respond

to any of these sensitive topics of debate

is always first andforemost with compassion.

We want to make sure thatwe're speaking with respect

and with plenty ofdeference to our opponents,

and understanding that, typically,

they're operating withthe best of intentions.

We all want to live in a country

where the dignity and respectof everyone is recognized,

but we need to also be very clear

about why this bill is problematic.

Become familiar with the status

of sexual orientationand gender identity laws

and policies in theirlocal school district,

at the state level, and then, from there,

they should speak articulately and clearly

about the legitimate concerns that we have

about the Equality Act.

- The president is welcoming Jewish exiles

from the Democratic Party.

In a Tweet, President Trump said,

"The Jexodus movementencourages Jewish people

"to leave the Democrat party,"

and that Republicans arewaiting with open arms.

The president and other Republicans

have criticized Democrats forcontroversial comments made

by freshman congresswoman Ilhan Omar

criticizing the US-Israel relationship

and engaging in antisemitic tropes.

- Well, for more on all things politics,

we bring in our chiefpolitical analyst David Brody.

David, thanks for joining us.

- Thank you, great to be back again.

- Always.

- David, to President Trump's Tweet,

what is he talking aboutexactly with this Jexodus?

- Well, look, I don't want to call it,

it's all made up.

It's not because there'sa few millennials,

Jewish millennials, whokind of started this

on a website that'sfledgling, if you will.

It's just starting out, but he saw

a Fox and Friends segment.

Then he went ahead andTweeted about this Jexodus,

so look, I think that'swhat he's trying to do,

kind of gin up some controversy here,

and basically say, "Cometo the Republican Party.

"We're for American Jews," butthe truth of the matter is,

American Jews prettymuch have a home already

in the Democrat Party.

We have some figures, I wantto put them up real quick

'cause I don't come to this show prepared.

I mean, I do come to the show prepared.

What am I talking about?

52%, take a look, ofAmerican Jews are Democrat,

31% independent, 15% only Republican.

As we continue on, you can see that,

in the disapproval of President Trump

among American Jews, very high, 71%.

26% approve of the president.

Then look at what Donald Trump did

in terms of the Jewishsupport in the election.

Mitt Romney had the highestJewish support, 30%,

Donald Trump at 24%, tied George W. Bush,

and then John McCain at 22%.

There's some work to be done.

He wants to make some strides there.

- David, we've seen this is really

a bipartisan issue, antisemitism.

Does the president look political here,

you know, making a Tweet like that?

- Sure, he definitely--

Look, I think this is

the kitchen sink strategyfor Donald Trump.

Let's try to get a percentage or two

of American Jews here,

let's try to get some folks

that are really against socialism here,

and you just kinda mix andmatch all of it together,

and I think, at thatpoint, you cobble together

what you hope to beelectoral victory in 2020.

I think that's the plan.

That's why he can go after,as he calls Bernie Sanders,

the nutty professor, and callsElizabeth Warren Pocahontas,

he's trying to just muddy the field,

so it's all political, for sure.

- Some people might ask,

what does he have to gainwith a Tweet like this,

but maybe the question is,what does he have to lose

with a Tweet like this?

- Yeah, I think it doesn'tmake any sense, personally.

I mean, look, AmericanJews are not gonna go

for Donald Trump or theRepublican Party much more

than they're alreadygoing for the Republicans.

- Maybe the thing to splicehere is the difference

between the support for Christians

who support the Zionist movement

versus liberal Jews whoare typically encamped

with the Democratic Party.

- That's a good point.

35% of American Jews are Reform.

Those are the liberal Jews.

Then there are conservative Jews,

that's about 25% or so,

and then you have 10% are,they're Orthodox Jews.

Those are kind of the Zionist Jews.

Evangelicals and the OrthodoxJews really get together,

so there is a schism between the two.

I don't know, we'll see.

- What about hisson-in-law, Jared Kushner?

Is he Orthodox?

Is he conservative?

Where does he fall?

- Well, he keeps kosher,

so it's either conservative or Orthodox.

I think it's conservative,I don't think it's Orthodox.

Having said that, theydo keep a kosher home.

They put the phone away onSaturday, believe it or not.

Jared Kushner and IvankaTrump both do that.

- David, switching gearshere to this whole,

the southern border, thepresident's declaration

that, basically, Congress voted against,

well, this resolution, they voted for it,

the president just vetoed it.

What does this signal about the president

and a split with him andsome of the Republicans?

- First of all, to the base,

it signals that he's gonnago to the wall for the wall,

so this is politically veryastute by the president.

It'll help him in 2020.

As it relates to Republicans, look,

I think, personally and politically,

this is great for the president.

He has outed these Republicans

who say they're for border security

and then went ahead andpretty much voted against it.

I know they said constitutional reasons,

but look, Ted Cruz cameout, and he was for it,

and he said because this vote was not

about the constitution, thisvote was on border security,

and there's a law in place already.

- All right, David Brody.

- That's it, that's all I have.

- Thank you.

- Thank you.- Thanks, David.

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Coming up, who wrote thefirst books of the Bible?

How a new film tries tosettle an ancient question

when we come back.

- Tonight, a ceasefirebetween Israel and Hamas.

Israel warplanes overnighthit 100 Hamas military targets

in the Gaza Strip, strikingHamas terrorist headquarters

and an undergroundrocket-making installation.

The retaliation came afterair raid sirens Thursday,

signally terrorist rocketattacks on Israeli citizens

who took cover in bomb shelters.

The two Iranian-made rockets fired

into southern Israel andTel Aviv by Hamas mark

the first such incident since 2014.

- Well, across America--

As some schools and univers--

As Chris Mitchell reports,

a new movie offers strong evidence

for the authority of the Bible

and one of its best known authors.

- [Chris] The new film

Patterns of Evidence: TheMoses Controversy looks

at a debate enteringtoday's college classrooms.

- The Moses Controversyis really the question of,

did Moses write thefirst books of the Bible?

From a lot of Christians,it's not a controversy at all,

but as soon as you send your son

or daughter off to college or university,

they're gonna hear a different story.

- [Chris] Film producerTimothy Mahoney says

this lack of understanding is rampant

in today's higher learning.

- It's huge, the number of people

in mainstream scholarshipthat don't believe

that Moses was the author ofthe first books of the Bible,

so they're basically saying,

"This is just a beautifulpiece of literature,

"but it's not real history."

- [Chris] Mahoney says that's the issue.

- The problem with thatis that Jesus believes

that Moses wrote thefirst books of the Bible.

In fact, Jesus says, "Forif you believe Moses,

"you would believe me, for he wrote of me,

"but if you do not believe his writings,

"how will you believe my words?"

- [Chris] Mahoney traveledthousands of miles

and spent years investigatingthe Moses question.

- What I realized is that,if Moses doesn't exist,

and Moses didn't write thesefirst books of the Bible,

this impacts the rest of the Bible.

- [Chris] While manymainstream scholars cast doubt

on the history and archeology of Moses,

Mahoney says he canshow why they're wrong.

- In fact, this film is going to show you

Bible-affirming evidencethat Moses had the ability

to write the first books of the Bible.

- [Chris] With Biblicalvalues under assault

in today's culture, Mahoneysays his project can speak

to both believer and skeptic.

- Now, if you have a family member

that doesn't believe,and you've been looking

for an opportunity tobring them to something,

or to talk to them about the Bible,

this film is a perfect tool for that

because it's done very scientifically.

- [Chris] Mahoney says today'sgenerations have doubts,

and ask tough questions.

- But there are answersfor these questions.

We don't have to lose our sonsand daughters to skepticism.

- [Chris] Mahoney says,in order to know God,

people need to know his word,

and he hopes his film will tiethat understanding together.

- It shows that this ability

to do exactly what wascommanded in the Bible

fits the history and thearcheology, matches the Bible.

The pattern of evidence fits.

- [Chris] Chris Mitchell,CBN News, Jerusalem.

- [John] For more news and analysis

on the latest developments in Israel,

tune into Jerusalem Datelinewith Chris Mitchell tonight

and every Friday evening at 9:30 eastern

on the CBN News Channel.

- [Jen] When we comeback, the conversion story

of a woman who says she murderedmore people than Ted Bundy.

- A newly-passed pro-life measure

in Kentucky is the target of a lawsuit

from the American Civil Liberties Union.

The state legislature approved a bill

banning most abortions once afetal heartbeat is detected,

sending it to the deskof governor Matt Bevin

late Thursday night, butthe ACLU has filed a suit

saying the measure is unconstitutional.

That prompted a response fromKentucky's pro-life governor.

Bevin Tweeted at the ACLU, saying, quote,

"Bring it, Kentucky willalways fight for life, always."

- After performing hundreds of abortions,

something changed for Dr. Kathi Aultman.

- Charlene Aaron brings us the story

of how a spiritual revelation transformed

the former pro-choice practitioner.

- [Charlene] Kathi Aultmanwanted to be a doctor

so she could help women.

After receiving herlicense, she took a job

at a Florida women's clinicto perform abortions.

- There was no question in my mind

that a woman shouldhave the right to choose

whether she wanted to be pregnant or not,

and that was the most important thing.

I didn't consider the fetusin the equation at all.

- [Charlene] Aultman wenton to become director

of a local Planned Parenthood,

where she says examining the parts

of aborted babies fascinated her.

- I was looking at it completely

from a scientific standpoint,

totally devoid of any emotion.

It was amazing, and I used to send

the different parts down to pathology,

and then, on our pathology rotation,

we would look at those slides.

It fascinated me.

- [Charlene] She even performedabortions while pregnant.

- I didn't see any problem with that.

My baby was wanted.

Their baby wasn't.

It didn't seem to bother the women

that I was aborting, but yeah,

I saw no contradiction inthat, no problem with it.

- Dr. Aultman said the only time

she had qualms aboutwhat she was doing was

when she worked in the intensivecare unit for newborns.

That's where Aultman found herself trying

to save babies who were the same age

as those she killed, thoughtsshe quickly dismissed.

- If she wanted the baby,

then I did everything I could

to give her a happy, healthy baby.

If she miscarried, I wouldbe distraught with her,

and upset about losing that baby.

- [Charlene] After having her first child,

the doctor came face toface with three cases

that changed her thinking.

One involved a young girlwho had three abortions,

all performed by Aultman.

- I went to the clinicmanager, and I said,

"I don't want to do this.

"She's just using abortionas birth control."

They said I didn't have the right

to make that decision.

It wasn't a judgmentthat I should be making,

and I needed to do the procedure.

- [Aultman] In 1983, afterattending a church service

and a private meeting with the pastor,

Aultman became a Christian.

- He gave me Josh McDowell's

Evidence That Demands A Verdict.

It was that point thatI finally understood

who Jesus was, and at that point, really,

I committed my life to him.

Then he just started the long,hard work of transforming me.

- [Charlene] Part of thattransformation included

no longer doing abortions.

Still, Aultman held onto her belief

that a woman had the right

to terminate an unwanted pregnancy.

Two years later, after reading an article

comparing abortion withthe Nazi Holocaust,

she saw herself as a mass murderer.

- I probably murdered more people

than Ted Bundy or anyof the mass murderers,

if you consider all theabortions that I did.

- [Charlene] After talkingwith a Christian counselor,

Aultman received much-neededpeace and healing.

- During that time, in my mind,

I could see Jesus's gown and his feet,

and I was at his feet, crying.

He said to me, "Are youmore powerful than I am?

"Are you more important than I am?

"Are you stronger than I am,

"that I can forgive you, butyou cannot forgive yourself?"

At that point, I understoodthat he had forgiven me,

and that I needed to forgive myself.

That was where I really had my healing.

- [Charlene] Autlman is now retired,

and has dedicated theremainder of her life

to fighting for the unborn.

As a board-certified Ob/Gyn and a fellow

of the American College ofObstetricians and Gynecologists,

she recently urged lawmakers to pass

the Heartbeat Protection Act,

a measure that would ban abortionsat six weeks of pregnancy

after an unborn baby'sheartbeat is detected.

- I support the Heartbeat Protection Act

because it uses the heartbeat,

a very concrete sign of life

that people can identify with,

to define when the fetusshould be protected.

- [Charlene] She is grateful every day

for the opportunity to speakfor those she once silenced.

- I'm so thankful that he's using me

to save babies now when, once,

I used to kill them,and that's very healing

and restorative in itself.

- [Charlene] Charlene Aaron,

CBN News, Jacksonville, Florida.

- Thanks for joining us forthis edition of Faith Nation.

- Have a great weekend.

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