- More than a dozenformer transgender people

are shedding light onwhat it's really like

to change their gender, andthey say why it doesn't work.

Author Walt Heyer has puttogether their stories

in a new book called Trans Life Survivors.

The book highlights whatsome call trans regret.

Heyer writes, Trans LifeSurvivors showcases emails

from 30 or so people,selected from among hundreds

who have written me,concerning what many call

the biggest mistake of their lives.

The book also explores thepush in the United States

to normalize gender dysphoria.

And joining us now to share more

on this subject is Jeffrey McCall.

He used to live as a transgender woman,

that is until God changed his life.

Now Jeffrey leads a yearly event

where former LGBT individuals share

how they abandoned theirlifestyles to follow Jesus Christ.

Jeffrey, we wanna begin.

First off, what is trans regret?

- Well, trans regret is people

that have began livinga transgender lifestyle

and tried to transitioninto a sex that they are not

and the regret that comes

after taking hormones and after surgery,

and it's them regretting trying to change

into something that theywere never meant to be.

- There is a push topromote gender transition

as the solution for those

who are suffering from gender dysphoria.

Why is this dangerous in your estimation?

- It's very dangerous becauseI personally know about it.

It happened to me.

After seeing a psychiatristand psychologist

for just a few visits,

they were both diagnosingme with gender dysphoria

and saying that I wasScarlet, the name I went by,

that I truly was a woman,

that I was trapped in a man's body,

and that these were real feelings

and that I at any point couldstart surgeries and hormones

to change my body into whatI was truly supposed to be.

So I understand the importance

and how dangerous itcan be diagnosing people

with gender dysphoria.

It brought on a lot of pressure,and it brought on a lot

of suicidal thoughts and other things,

so it's very dangerous to do to people.

- So would you say you're someone

who lives with trans regret?

- I am not.

I never had any surgeries physically.

I began living as a woman, as Scarlet.

I was diagnosed with gender dysphoria

by psychologists and psychiatrists

and I began living asScarlet, but I never went into

actually cutting and changing my body.

I was very close,

but I was saved by JesusChrist before I went into that.

- Do you find there are many people

who are regretting the decisionto change their gender?

- Yes, story after stories online.

There's now this book with trans regret,

and there's just storyafter story of people,

women that tried to transition into men

and men that tried totransition into women

who regret after they start the hormones

and have the surgeries

and begin fully living as that other sex.

There's lots of regrets

and there's a lot of stories out there,

and anyone could easily find that.

- What do you say to themand to those watching

in terms of if they areliving that being the case,

will they begin to recover?

- Anyone can recover,

and that's the power of ourLord and Savior Jesus Christ.

He will take you through any journey.

No matter how far you'vegone or what you've done,

there's saving grace and power

through Jesus Christ of Nazareth.

And by surrendering your lifeto him, he can heal the mind,

which is the first thingthat needs to be healed.

And then as he heals the inside,

the outside stuff will manifest.

But yes, there is hopefor anyone through Jesus.

- Would you say that you're aliving example of that help?

- I am a living example of that help.

When I was living asScarlet, I was suicidal.

I wanted to die.

It was just a crazy, tumultuousmental state I was in.

And it was during that time

that I had a supernaturalencounter with God,

and he spoke to me andI left all that behind.

I threw away my life asScarlet in a dumpster,

and I just moved forward

and he started showing me that he loved me

and he created me as Jeffreyand for a purpose and a reason.

And so I just wanna give that hope

to anyone out there that wants it.

If something's inside of youchurning and yearning for more,

it's because God createdyou for so much more

and he is drawing youand wooing you to him.

- All right, Jeffrey McCall.

Thank you so much for your time.

- Thank you.