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Jerusalem Dateline: 1/4/19 What Will US Syria Pullout Do to Kurds, Christians?

US troop pullout from Syria: how will it affect Christians and Kurds, and does it send the wrong signal to Iran? Plus, the impact of early Israeli elections on the roll out of Trump's peace plan; and a real hero laying his life down to save others. Read Transcript


(horn blowing)

- This week on Jerusalem Dateline.

How will the pull out of U.S. Troops

from Syria affect theChristians and the Kurds?

We'll take a look at the regional impact

of Presidents Trump's decision.

And early Israeli elections,how will they effect

the roll out of PresidentTrump's peace plan?

Plus, a real hero laying down his life

to save others in the Middle East.

All this and more, thisweek on Jerusalem Dateline.

Hello and welcome to thisedition of Jerusalem Dateline,

I'm Julie Stahl filling in

for Chris Mitchell who'son assignment in Egypt.

President Trump recentlyextended his original timetable

to pull U.S. troops out of Syria

from 30 days to four months.

Still many fear thewithdrawal may not only upset

the Middle East balance of power

but also abandons a keyally, the Syrian Kurds.

- [Chris] U.S. Boots may remain

on the ground a bit longer in Syria,

but President Trump'ssurprise announcement

pushed other countries to act.

Turkey bolstered it's borderwith military equipment

while Syria positionedtroops and weapons outside

the Kurdish held city of Manbij.

Both countries feelthreatened by the Kurds

although the group voted foran independent state in 2017,

most countries haverefused to recognize it.

CBN News has learned the Kurdishgroup aligned with the U.S.

is under pressure from Russiato strike a deal within days.

This Kurdish official fears

what might happen after a pull out.

- That potential led toa New Year's Day meeting

between Israeli PrimeMinister Benjamin Netanyahu

and U.S. Secretary of State Mike Pompeo.

The pull out raises a numberof dangerous scenarios,

Turkey may follow through onthreats to attack the Kurds,

Russia may try to take the rich oil fields

in Northeastern Syria, andthe Iranians still want

a straight line route throughSyria to the Mediterranean.

- From the Israeli perspective,the major concern is Iran.

Iran is likely to misread President Trump

and misread America and think

that America's leavingbecause it was defeated

and now they can go inand take over Syria.

- [Chris] Former IsraeliAmbassador to the UN Dore Gold

says, "Nations like Iranbelieve their historic empires

"allow them to conquer faraway lands,

"in this case Iran claimsSyria as it's 35th province."

- Therefore the strength of America,

even in a little cornerof Syria is pivotal

to prevent the deteriorationin the Middle East.

- [Chris] Earlier SenatorLindsey Graham met

with President Trump andsaid the President understood

the number of complicatedissues surrounding the pull out.

- You got the Kurds that weneed to be concerned about

they stepped up when nobody else would

and he's very aware of that problem.

- [Chris] In addition to the Kurds,

retired General JerryBoykin tells CBN news

the U.S. pullout threatens thousands

of Christians in the region.

- And they've all congregated there

so that could be a Christianand a Kurdish genocide

up in that area if we don't leave measures

in place to help protect them.

- [Chris] It's becomingclear that crucial decisions

over the next few weeks will likely affect

the fate of these Christians

and even the future of the Middle East.

Chris Mitchell, CBN News Jerusalem.

- We'll have more on the Syrian pullout

with General Boykin later in the show.

Israeli politicians areforming new alliances

in preparation for earlyelections in April.

This turmoil could alsoeffect U.S./Israel relations

and President Trump's yetto be revealed peace plan.

CBN Middle East BureauChief Chris Mitchell looks

at what to expect fromthe upcoming changes.

- [Chris] Israel's politicalsystem is gearing up

for the April elections.

- So there's a lot of musicalchairs in Israeli politics,

lots of parties splinteroff, form new parties.

- [Chris] One shift, EducationMinister Naftali Bennett

and Justice MinisterAyelet Shaked are starting

a religious secular partycalled the New Reich.

Another key member, they're now joined by

author and columnist Caroline Glick.

The biggest surprise came on live TV

when Labor party leader Avi Gabbay ended

his alliance with TzipiLivni's Hatnua party

in what some called a "Divorce."

One goal unites left-wingparties defeat Netanyahu.

According to Professor Eugene Kontorovich,

that's not likely to happen.

- When you look at thepolls there's really

no way any left-wing coalitioncan form a government.

I think very likely theresults of the elections,

when all is said and done, is going to be

a continuation of very much something

like the current coalition.

- A wild card could beif Netanyahu is indicted

before the electionson corruption charges.

Legally he can still runand if indicted after

the elections would notbe forced to step down.

It's hard to know howthat might affect voting.

According to ProfessorEfraim Inbar the Israeli

swing to the right is largely due

to the failed peace process.

- After the slow peace process failed

the Israeli electoratebecame more cautious

and blames basicallythe Labor on the left.

- Early elections willlikely further delay details

of President Trump's IsraeliPalestinian peace plan.

- President Trump'splan is very optimistic,

he's taking a shot but I think the chances

that the Palestinian'swill accept this plan

are basically zero.

They've said so already, soit doesn't matter too much

what government thereis in Israel when any

Palestinian governmentis going to reject it.

- The Palestinians havetold us is the only deals

they are ready to acceptis Jews in the sea.

So they want to destroy the Jew state.

What kind of the deal can we make

when part of the nationalPalestinian movement

has this type of attitude.

- [Chris] Though unnamedsources indicated Trump

prefers a Netanyahu ledgovernment, analysts agree

U.S./Israel relations shouldremain strong in any case.

- Netanyahu was successful having a

bumpy but correct relationshipwith President Obama.

So we will adapt our serve to whatever

govenerment service in Washington.

- One of the mostimportant things about this

election is if 2020brings with it a different

President who is likely tohave a much more critical

policy towards Israel,much more resembling

that of President Obama.

Having a government that'sprepared to stand up to that,

to not buckle under thegreat pressure that they

will undoubtedly be placedin, will be very important.

- Joining us now from Cairo is our

Middle East Bureau Chief Chris Mitchell.

Chris tell us what's happening there.

- Well Julie we're righthere in the heart of Cairo,

and as you can see right onthe banks of the Nile River.

When you come here you get a sense that

you are living in the land of the Bible.

This is where Moses led the Israelites

out of Egypt to the promised land,

where Jesus spent much of his childhood

before he went back to Israelinto the city of Nazareth.

But we're here to do astory that, I believe,

is very significant to what'sgoing on in the Middle East.

Joel Rosenberg a best selling author

is going to be leading a delegation

of U.S. Evangelical leaders here

to meet with a number of leaders

including the head of the Coptic Church,

the head of the ProtestantChurch here in Egypt.

And perhaps most important right now,

they're going to be meetingwith President el-Sisi.

They've met with him, this is probably

the fourth meeting they've had.

But it's a series of meetingsthat U.S. Evangelical leaders

have been having with many of the

Sunni-Arab leaders herein the Middle East.

Just a few weeks ago we werein the United Arab Emirates,

they met with the Crown Prince there.

Following that visit they went over

to Riyadh Saudi Arabia andmet with Mohammed bin Salman,

the Crown Prince of Saudi Arabia.

A controversial visit but significant

in that there's a relationship growing

between U.S. Evangelical leaders

and many of these Sunni-Arableaders here in the region.

And one of the majorstories is going to be the

dedication of one of the biggest churches,

if not the largest church here

in the Middle East built by Egypt.

That's part of a pledgethat President el-Sisi

had that he would rebuildmany of the churches

that had been destroyedduring the Arab Spring.

He's rebuilt many of those.

Also there's a economic story here.

Economically Egpyt isbeginning to turn around.

Tourism is up, employment is up,

investment from overseas is up,

so in many ways it's aeconomic turn around here.

But the major story isthis growing relationship

between Evangelicalleaders and many of these

Sunni-Arab leaders andespecially this dedication

of this largest churchhere in the Middle East.

So Julie that's just a preview of

some of the stories we'll be having

on next week's 700 Club

and next week's Jerusalem Dateline.

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- Thanks Chris, we look forwardto hearing more from you.

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Coming up.

More on the impact of the pending

U.S. troop withdrawal from Syria.

(rock music)

- God almighty is a God of blessing.

He always wants to bless his people,

but how do you get that blessing?

And what principleswill unlock that secret?

- [Narrator] In Miraculous Blessings,

Pat Robertson shows youhow to open the floodgates

of God's awesome blessings in your life.

- In order to have a blessingyou gotta be blessable.

- [Narrator] Discoverwhat the Bible has to say

about God's covenant of blessing.

The Laws of Blessing and what are

the hindrances to the blessings of God.

- The words of Jesus they are as

valid as the law of gravity.

And if we follow thoselaws we will be blessed.

- [Narrator] You will see amazing

true stories of everyday people whose

lives were rescued and transformed

by God's miraculous blessings.

- But even the doctors acknowledged

that this had to be a miracle.

- [Narrator] Call 1-800-700-7000.

Or visit CBN.com to become a CBN partner

and get miraculous blessings today.

(intense drum music)

- Hello I'm Terry Meeuwsen.

Did you know there are more than

148 million orphans in the world today?

148 million.

But it was three little girls that taught

me about the plight of orphans.

My husband and I spent nearly a month

emersed in the daily activities of the

Ukrainian Orphanage as wewaited to adopt three sisters.

I saw firsthand the utter loneliness,

the pain of rejection,and the overwhelming

desire to be loved.

That experience changed me forever.

And out of it grew aministry from my heart

called Orphan's Promise.

Today we're helping orphans and vulnerable

children in more than50 countries worldwide.

Thousands of childrenare now in safe homes,

they're being educated, andthey're learning life skills.

I am asking you to join with me

and to become family to these children.

Will you call the numberon your screen right now?

Because every child deservesa chance to be happy.

(rock music)

- Lieutenant General JerryBoykin was one of the

original members of theU.S. Army's Delta Force,

and ultimately rose tocommand these elite warriors.

CBN reporter Charlene Aaroninterviewed Boykin recently,

about President Trump's decision

to withdraw U.S. troops from Syria.

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- General Boykin it'sa very difficult time

for Syrians and now with the President's

decision to withdrawtroops, what is the risk?

- Well there's a lot of risk,

first of all that leaves Israel vulnerable

simply because withoutU.S. troops in there

Iran has basically a clear path to

resupply Hezbollah with weapons of war.

It also the Kurds, the Yazidis,

and the Christians, now don't forget

about the Christians in northeast Syria.

It leaves all of themplus the Sunni-Arabs.

It leaves them veryvulnerable to attack by the

Assad government by the Terbers,in the case of the Kurds,

and by Islamic groups there.

And we need to rememberthat many of the Christians

up in northeast Syria there are

former Muslim background believers.

In other words, they convertedfrom Islam to Christianity

and they were run out of thevillages that they lived in.

And they all congregatedthere, so that could be

a Christian and Kurdishgenocide up in that area.

If we don't leave measures inplace to help protect them.

- Amazing.

You are also the Executive Director

of the Family Research Council,

and you wrote about theplight of Syrian Christians.

You just mentionedChristians on your website.

What is the greatest concern for them

and other religious minorities right now?

- Well the greatest concernis for the Christians,

is that either the Assad government

or the Islamic groupsthat want that area back

and that also believe that byfulfilling the dictates of the

Quran they place themselves ina better position with Allah.

And that dictate is to kill infidels.

So they are vulnerable to at least

the government and Islamic groups,

and they may be justby virtue of proximity

they may be vulnerable toTurkish attacks in there

that are directed primarily at the Kurds.

- And the Kurds have been our allies,

what will happen to them?

- Well the Kurds, andthat's exactly right,

and thanks for pointing that out.

You know after the, if you want to

know what will happened go back

and look at the first Gulf War.

After the first GulfWar, it ended in 1991.

We left the Kurds in northern Iraq,

and we did nothing for them.

We left them with no meansof defending themselves,

with no miliarty support of any kind.

And Saddam Hussein killedabout 30,000 of them,

in fact he killed over 30,000.

And then we turned aroundand left them again

seven years ago whenwe pulled out of Iraq.

We left them again, we leftwithout military hardware.

And every time we try to resupply them,

or give them something wesend it through Baghdad.

We send it to the government of Baghdad,

and it got siphoned off and given to

either the Iranians or the Shia militias

inside of Iraq there, andthe Kurds got nothing.

So they've been fighting against

Islamic groups like Isis but also against

the Shia militias ever sincewe left there seven years ago.

And they've had scant little support

from the United States and what has come,

that has actually gotten to them,

has actually been throughprivate organizations

for the most part.

- Wow.

There is also talk of drawingdown troops in Afghanistan,

what is your opinion about that?

- Well I'm ready to get the troops

out of Afghanistan and what we don't know

is exactly what theintelligence assessments

says right now in terms of the Taliban

or resurgence of the Taliban.

And that has to be calculated based on

what are our vulnerabilitiesif we pull out

versus what ourvulnerabilities if we stay.

I think the sooner we getout of there the better,

but we need to do it inthe right kind of way

and not the way Barack Obamadid it seven years ago.

- General Jerry Boykin.

Thank you so much forjoining us today, sir.

(rock music)

- [Julie] Up next.

A real life hero saving lives.

- God almighty is a God of blessing.

He always wants to bless his people,

but how do you get that blessing?

And what principleswill unlock that secret?

- [Narrator] In Miraculous Blessings,

Pat Robertson shows youhow to open the floodgates

of God's awesome blessings in your life.

- In order to have a blessingyou gotta be blessable.

- [Narrator] Discoverwhat the Bible has to say

about God's covenant of blessing.

The Laws of Blessing and what are

the hindrances to the blessings of God.

- The words of Jesus they are as

valid as the law of gravity.

And if we follow thoselaws we will be blessed.

- [Narrator] You will see amazing

true stories of everyday people whose

lives were rescued and transformed

by God's miraculous blessings.

- But even the doctors acknowledged

that this had to be a miracle.

- [Narrator] Call 1-800-700-7000.

Or visit CBN.com to become a CBN partner

and get miraculous blessings today.

- Hello I'm Terry Meeuwsen.

Did you know there are more than

148 million orphans in the world today?

148 million.

But it was three little girls that taught

me about the plight of orphans.

My husband and I spent nearly a month

emersed in the daily activities of the

Ukrainian Orphanage as wewaited to adopt three sisters.

I saw firsthand the utter loneliness,

the pain of rejection,and the overwhelming

desire to be loved.

That experience changed me forever.

And out of it grew aministry from my heart

called Orphan's Promise.

Today we're helping orphans and vulnerable

children in more than50 countries worldwide.

Thousands of childrenare now in safe homes,

they're being educated, andthey're learning life skills.

I am asking you to join with me

and to become family to these children.

Will you call the numberon your screen right now?

Because every child deservesa chance to be happy.

(rock music)

- Dave Eubank is a former U.S. Army

Special Forces Operativewho now uses his training

to reach some of theworld's most oppressed

people and share the love of Jesus.

Some say he's an American hero and now

another man many admire for his service

Oliver North is telling Eubank's story.

Jennifer Wishon explains.

- I met Dave several years ago in Iraq.

Took an instant liking to the guy--

- [Jennifer] Colonel Oliver North

met Dave Eubank on Sinjar Mountain,

the notorious placewhere the Yazidi people

faced genocide at the hands of Isis.

- [Dave] The sound of theguns, I always ran to them.

It's what I was made to do.

- [Jennifer] North wasinstantly impressed.

- [North] He's a believer, he's made of

extraordinary energy, he's gothis entire family out there.

His wife and three lovely children.

- [Jennifer] This year North became

President of the NationalRifle Association.

In addition to leading the organization,

he's highlighting America'sbravest on NRA TV,

in the form of OliverNorth's American heroes.

Eubank is the subjectof his first episode.

- He's the kind of person Ilike to keep company with.

I like keeping company withheroes and he certainly is one.

- [Jennifer] When Eubank retired as

an Army Special Forces Officer,

he felt the call to the missions field.

He founded the Free Burma Rangers,

men and women trainedto help people facing

persecution and oppressionin Myanmar, Sudan, Kurdistan

and other parts of the world.

Their mission is simple offer help,

hope, and love, in the name of Jesus.

- Of course, in the aftermath of Isis

and the horrific murdersthat were occurring

he ended up in probably more gun fights

than most people in the Marine Corps

or the Army Special Forces have been in.

He's been there to help those people

fighting for the right side.

- This is a missionary who takes up arms,

who rides around in armoredvehicles from time to time.

Does that seem odd to you?

- Well not knowing thecircumstances of it,

I've been embedded out there60 something odd times.

So I know what the circumstances are like.

He would not survivewithout armored vehicles.

I mean if you look at thewindshield on his vehicle,

it had bullet holes in it before he got

into the big fight thatwe've gotten coverage of.

- [Jennifer] That big fight happened

as the Iraqi army, backed by U.S. forces

worked to retake thecity of Mosul from Isis.

- The biggest hospital inMosul had been seized by Isis.

They've turned it into a multistory

anti-aircraft position,anti-armor position,

sniper position and hundredsof Isis fighters inside.

And they were killing, thecivilians were trying to flee.

And Dave came upon a scenewhere there was a little girl

whose mother was dead,everyone around her is dead.

And Dave saw her and said,"I'm gonna save her."

She'd been out there for several days,

no water, no food, and basically

clinged to her mother's clothing.

- And I thought, there's no way

I'm gonna live through this.

If wasn't fatalistic but itwas just kind of logical.

You're not gonna make it on this one,

but dang that kid's still there.

I gotta do something and Ijust felt it's now or never.

- Because Dave is so good at what he does,

he called on his cellphoneto a U.S. Army Officer

who put him in touch withit's Marine artillery battery,

and asked for smoke toscreen his movement.

He came up behind an Iraqi attack.

You see Dave running in that, Dave can run

a lot faster than I can.

He's not quite as old.

But I watched that scene and said,

what an extraordinary act of courage.

- [Jennifer] Eubank saved the young girl

and lived to tell about it.

- [North] If you're not moved by that

you need a heart transplant.

- [Jennifer] His act ofheroism caught on camera,

catapulted his work intothe global spotlight.

- [Chris] CBN news joinedEubank on the frontlines,

and found a man of constant prayer.

- We can't take care of everybody,

but you can take care ofthe person in front of you.

- Yeah and are these some of the kids

that you try to take care of?- Hello.

- Yes, they've been out here three days.

And we have food but it'sthe same thing everyday,

that's all we've got and some water.

(children playing)

So I'm gonna pray real quick.- Yeah let's do that.

- Lord Jesus help thesepeople go to a safe place

and good place tonightin Jesus' name, Amen.

- [Jennifer] Eubank tellsNorth he's not afraid,

because the love he has forthose he's trying to help.

And when you love, he says,fear is no longer a priority.

- Don't be afraid tosuffer, don't think that

being Christians means thatyou're not gonna suffer.

- [Jennifer] A man who knowsa thing or two about courage,

North says Eubank displaysthe type of bravery that would

earn him a chest full of medals

if he still served in the military.

- You know the word hero has been

much abused in our culture today.

A hero can be somebody who catches

a pass in an end zone orsets a new Olympic record

of some kind, in the jargon of our day.

The classical definition of a hero

is a person who puts themselves at risk

for the benefit of someone else.

- [Jennifer] As a role modelfor Christians, North says,

"You can't find a better man than Dave."

- He says, for example, I've seen him

say it to others not just to me,

"All I am is an ambassadorof Jesus Christ."

And without love, which of course,

the good book is fullof love and sacrifice.

I mean, this is biblical stuff,

and what Dave does is he doesn't

just talk about it, he does it.

And to me that's an even more

important aspect of his faith.

Because I've got 17 grandkids,I can tell them something

but if I show them somethingthey'll never forget it.

That's what Dave has done outthere time and time again.

- But deep in my heart I have no fear.

- [Children] But deep inmy heart I have no fear.

- For I know my God is here.

- [Children] For I know my God is here.

- [Jennifer] Jennifer Wishon, CBN news.

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- [Julie] Still ahead.

Help for an Israeli holocaust survivor.

(rock music)

- God almighty is a God of blessing.

He always wants to bless his people,

but how do you get that blessing?

And what principleswill unlock that secret?

- [Narrator] In Miraculous Blessings,

Pat Robertson shows youhow to open the floodgates

of God's awesome blessings in your life.

- In order to have a blessingyou gotta be blessable.

- [Narrator] Discoverwhat the Bible has to say

about God's covenant of blessing.

The Laws of Blessing and what are

the hindrances to the blessings of God.

- The words of Jesus they are as

valid and the law of gravity.

And if we follow thoselaws we will be blessed.

- [Narrator] You will see amazing

true stories of everyday people whose

lives were rescued and transformed

by God's miraculous blessings.

- But even the doctors acknowledged

that this had to be a miracle.

- [Narrator] Call 1-800-700-7000.

Or visit CBN.com to become a CBN partner

and get miraculous blessings today.

(intense drum music)

- Hello I'm Terry Meeuwsen.

Did you know there are more than

148 million orphans in the world today?

148 million.

But it was three little girls that taught

me about the plight of orphans.

My husband and I spent nearly a month

emersed in the daily activities of the

Ukrainian Orphanage as wewaited to adopt three sisters.

I saw firsthand the utter loneliness,

the pain of rejection,and the overwhelming

desire to be loved.

That experience changed me forever.

And out of it grew aministry from my heart

called Orphan's Promise.

Today we're helping orphans and vulnerable

children in more than50 countries worldwide.

Thousands of childrenare now in safe homes,

they're being educated, andthey're learning life skills.

I am asking you to join with me

and to become family to these children.

Will you call the numberon your screen right now?

Because every child deservesa chance to be happy.

(rock music)

- More than 70 years afterthe end of the holocaust

some survivors are still in need of help.

Take a look at Roza's storyand how CBN is helping.

- [Narrator] Roza was eight years old,

when her family was forced to live

in a Ukrainian ghettoduring the holocaust.

- Nine people had tosleep in one small home.

The first round of Typhus begin to spread

and there was nomedicine, just one red rag

shared between us to cool the fevers.

- [Narrator] Roza toldme, she and the other

Jewish children worked for the Nazis at a

local factory all day for just

a few scraps of bread and a little soup.

- It was the only way to get food.

If you did not work, you did not eat.

We knew only three things in the ghetto,

hunger, fear, and sickness.

- [Narrator] After Typhus,Roza caught meningitis,

and then pneumonia.

- I can't believe Isurvived, so many died.

After we were liberated the survivors

helped give the dead proper burials.

- [Narrator] Years after the holocaust,

Roza started a family and was part

of a large immigration ofJews to Israel in 1972.

She's now a widow and struggleswith back and leg pain,

which makes it difficult for her to walk.

- I have dealt with thispain for many years.

Most days I can't go more than 20 meters

before I have to stop, it's very limiting.

- [Narrator] So CBN Israel got Roza

a special walker with a built in chair,

so she can rest whenever she needs to.

- It's a real pleasure to go outside again

and not have to worryabout pain or falling.

- [Narrator] We also take Roza food

and spend time with her.

- I love food.

And I am grateful for all the things

you have done for me.

It's so important for me to know

that you remember us andwe are not forgotten.

It is a wonderful feeling.

Thank you very much.

(lighthearted music)

- That's all for thisedition of Jersalem Dateline.

Thanks for joining us.

Remember you can follow us on Facebook,

Twitter, Instagram, and Youtube.

I'm Julie Stahl.

We'll see you next timeon Jerusalem Dateline.

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