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- Staffing changes withinthe Trump administration.
Welcome to Faith Nation,I'm Jenna Browder.
Well President Trump isnominating two familiar faces
to fill two key roles.
Bill Barr is the President'schoice to replace
Jeff Sessions as Attorney General.
If confirmed, this willbe the second time he will
serve in that role.
From 1991 through theend of his term in '93,
Barr headed the JusticeDepartment for the late
President George HW Bush.
Today, President Trumpexpressed his confidence
in the nominee.
- A terrific man, a terrific person.
A brilliant man, I did not know him for
until recently when Iwent through the process
of looking at people.
And he was my first choice from day one.
Respected by Republican'sand respected by Democrat's.
- And the President hasalso named his choice
to fill the top US roleat the United Nations.
- Somebody that we knowvery well who's done
a great job at the, asworking with Mike Pompeo
and others over at the State Department.
Heather Noward will be nominated.
She's going to work withNikki Haley to replace
Nikki at the United Nations.
She'll be ambassadorto the United Nations.
- And Noward has servedat the State Department
as the spokesperson since April of 2017.
In her time there, she'salso been named acting
under secretary of state for public
diplomacy and public affairs.
Before joining the state department,
Noward worked as ajournalist for Fox News.
And there are also reports tonight
of a potential shakeup in the West wing.
Multiple news outlets sayChief of Staff John Kelly
is heading for the exit.
He's expected to leave hisposition in the next few days.
Kelly joined the Trump administration as
the Secretary of HomelandSecurity back in January of 2017.
Six months later, hereplaced President Trump's
first Chief of Staff Rights Previs.
And here to help us all unpack this,
the CBN News Chief, politicalanalyst David Brody.
David, we have heardthis before, do you think
Kelly is really leaving this time?
- Yeah, I think so Jenna.
I don't think there'sany question about it.
I mean, we have heard this for awhile now,
but beyond the fact that thereare just too many reports
out there that would suggestthat this is going to happen.
There's a few other things in mind.
Let's remember, John Kelly isa marine four star general,
Donald Trump kind of wings it and goes
with his gut instinct.
That doesn't play well withmarine four star generals,
and I think there hasalways been that rub.
I can tell you a personalanecdote, I've been in the
Oval Office three times now.
There was one time whereI was actually going in
there to talk to him about a book I wrote.
There was John Kelly, ushering me in.
The next time I went into the Oval Office,
there was no John Kelly,and the reason I bring that
up is because over time,it seems like John Kelly's
kind of thrown up his hands and said look
Trump is gonna do what Trump is gonna do.
And we started to see thatJohn Kelly wasn't having
as much of the makingsure the gate keeper role
that he had early on.
- If he does leave, David,what are you hearing
about who might replace him?
- Well it could be NickErrors, we've heard about him
before, 36 years old,and by the way Jenna,
a multi-millionairealso I should tell you.
Because this guys verysuccessful, Republican
governors association, hewas the executive director
of that, he knows a lot ofRepublicans in a lot of places
in a lot of states.
He's very political,he's also Mike Pence's
Chief of Staff, and soyou would think that
there would be some comradery there.
And indeed, apparentlyPresident Trump and Nick Errors
do get along, Jenna, youknow Nick, I do as well.
And he's very likable,he's a guy that is not
gonna probably ruffle too many feathers.
But at the same time, youalso don't want to mess
around with him because hehas that side to him as well.
- Kelly, he's been seenas someone who can really
be a stabilizing force in that West Wing.
David, do you think Nick Errorscould also fill that role?
- Yeah, I think there'sa potential for that.
Look, he has the support of Ivanka Trump
and Jared Kushner, which ofcourse is a good head start.
And any time you havethat, you could have a
stabilizing force as well.
But I think the keyglue here is Mike Pence.
Mike Pence and Nick Errorskind of come as a package deal.
Obviously, we know thePresident loves Mike Pence.
And when you put the two together,
Nick Errors might be thesweet spot in the middle,
we'll see.
- All right, let's talkabout the attorney general.
Bill Barr, unanimouslyapproved by the Senate
during Bush 41's administration.
David, what do you think?
Will that be the case this time around?
Will he see bipartisan support?
- I have to tell youJenna, I think this is a
shrewd pick by the President.
I mean, remember, Bill Barrwho worked for, who was it?
President 41, George HWBush, Democrat's just spent
a week lotting 41, andhere comes President Trump
saying you know what, I'mgonna pick an attorney general
under 41, so what areDemocrat's supposed to do now?
Say well, he was good forPresident Bush back then
but he's not good forPresident Trump today.
I think it puts them in a tough spot
and you've got to get the votes there.
Now, he only needs 50 andthey have 53 Republican's
so he should be fine.
But I think it's overalla pretty good pick.
- Yeah, Nikki Haley, over atthe UN has been a real force.
What's your take on the President's choice
of Heather Noward to replace her?
- Well it doesn't surpriseme for a communicator
in Chief he picks apretty good communicator
over at the State Department.
Look, she's tough as nailsand you and I know that.
We were over at the StateDepartment with Mike Pompeo
when I had a chance to sitdown and interview him.
And there was Heather Nowardand boy, she keeps those
trains running and shedoesn't mess around.
So anybody that thinks thatthis is some sort of Fox News
personality that doesn'thave the heft for the
international stage, mayhave another thing coming.
I think she's got a lotof that Nikki Haley,
that inner Nikki Haley in her.
We'll have to find out,it'll be interesting to watch
because she'll have a lot ofchallenges right from day one.
- Yeah, David, many peopleof course in the Christian
community have been reallysupportive of Nikki Haley
especially the stance thatshe's taken towards Israel
and her support of that country.
Do you think Noward will have that same
kind of reception among Christians?
- Well she's going to have to earn it.
And it's a good question,it's a question we asked
the international religiousfreedom ambassador,
Sam Brownback at the State Department.
We had a chance to speak withhim about Heather Noward.
And specifically thisidea that will she be good
on Israel, will she be toughor supportive for Evangelicals?
Have a look.
- She'll be a staunch supporter of Israel.
She was as a spokesperson here,
the move of the embassy,our embassy to Jerusalem,
it was a mammoth thing.
And the President, godbless him for doing it,
did it when other Presidentsbefore him wouldn't do it.
Said they would and wouldn't do it.
He did it, she stood up thereand defended the ground.
Cause there's a lot ofmedia and people around
the world pushing against that.
It's the right thing to do,there are other countries
following suit now.
And she's gonna be astrong supporter of Israel,
she has already been.
- [David] What about someof the critics who say
the experience, obviouslyit's not necessarily there
but they want to ding her for that?
- You can say that aboutthe last person in that
job, Nikki Haley, who, sheand I served as governor's
together, so what does sheknow about foreign affairs?
She jumped right intoit, did a fantastic job.
Schooled herself on the issues,was again the strong voice
for the United States.
- Jenna, that word voicecame up, I counted it,
five times in our prettyquick conversation.
The point is is that Heather Noward,
according to Sam Brownbackwill be a very strong voice,
and you need that voiceon the world stage.
And Donald Trump knows athing or two about a voice.
- A lot of support fromMike Pompeo as well,
all right David, thank you.
- Thanks Jenna.
- Well President Trumpwent on a Twitter tirade
today against specialcouncil Robert Mueller's
Russia investigation.
In one of a handful oftweets, the President claimed
"Mueller and Leakin LyinJames Comey are best friends."
Calling it a conflictof interest in the case,
and once again a witch hunt.
The President also tweetedthat once the Mueller report
is finished, a counterreport will be released
tweeting "an investigationlike the one he's facing,
"shouldn't happen to a future President."
Well despite recentbacking from the President,
new criminal justice reformlegislation may be in jeopardy.
With little time left inthis lame duck Congress,
the window is closingto get a bill passed.
As Abigail Robertsonreports, many lawmakers say
it's now or never to approve the measure.
- Lawmakers say the time is now or never
to pass a criminal justicereform bill that's sitting
in the Senate waiting on a vote.
It's major legislationwith the goal of trying
to make sure people don'tend up back in prison.
Leader McConnell has saidthat he does not know
if he will have time tobring it to the floor
by the end of this year.
What is your response to that?
- My response to it is thathe has a very legitimate
reason that he wantsto get judges through.
We can work on judges next year,
because Republican's control the Senate.
Whereas if we don't dothis bill and Democrat's
come in and control theHouse, we're not going to
get the broad bipartisansupport that we have for this.
- [Abigail] The bill hasalready passed the House
and Grassley believesmore than 75 senators
would vote yes if it makesit to the Senate floor.
He worries if it's delayeduntil next year, it's over.
Lawmakers have a lot to dobefore the end of the year.
Including paying for border security.
Grassley is confident lawmakers can avoid
a partial government shutdownsimply because he says
it costs a lot of money toopen and close the government.
- I don't think with thefiscal situation in our country
we should do anything as stupid
as shutting down the government.
- [Abigail] A few senatorslike James Lankford
are working to permanentlythe threat of these shutdowns.
- When you're constantlyfighting about a government
shutdown, then you're on always distracted
over what the real issues are.
- [Abigail] Lankfordintroduced a bill that would
require the previousyears funding to kick in
until Congress passes a budget.
And only punishes lawmakersfor missing their deadline.
- Congress has to be able to stay here and
be able to get its work done.
Rather than, it's not doneso we do these government
shutdown fights orextensions and the American
people go through all the turmoil.
Let's put the pressure wherethe pressure needs to be.
- Congress has untilDecember 21 to fund the rest
of the government,reporting from Capital Hill
Abigail Robertson, CBN News.
- Well James Ackerman of Prison Fellowship
and Mark Holdon of KochIndustries join us now
for more, both of youthank you for being here.
- Thank you for having us.
- You know, I know thisis an issue that is very
important to both of you.
Just real quickly, tellus about your respective
organization's and how theyare involved in this big push.
- So Prison Fellowshipis the largest Christian
nonprofit dedicated toserving incarcerated men
and women, those returningto society from prison
and their families.
And Chuck Holson whofounded Prison Fellowship
and who as you know gotcaught up in the Watergate
Scandal and served a prisonsentence himself for that
before starting PrisonFellowship, was hugely
passionate about givinga voice to people who
are largely marginalized and forgotten.
Which is people who are incarcerated.
So Prison Fellowshipadvocates for fair justice
in the Justice system.
And works very closelywith Mark and many of
his colleagues to push that forward.
- And Koch Industries also very invested.
- Absolutely, it's a big issue for us.
We're very focused andCharles Koch, our CEO is very
focused on this issueand breaking barriers
to opportunity generally speaking.
And we see the criminaljustice system in this country
as a huge barrier toopportunities for millions
and millions of people, particularly those
who have the leastresources and it creates
a poverty trap.
It makes us less safe andwastes a lot of resources,
both human potentialand monetary resources.
So we're very focused ontrying to make the system
better, fear or safer for everybody.
And also be redemptive.
- There's talk of amulti prong approach here
in terms of tackling this problem.
How important though is legislation?
- It's hugely important,one just from a programming
perspective the firststep act which is before,
soon to be before the Senate potentially.
Is all about in partdelivering more programming
into the federal systemand implementing a more
restorative approach to criminal justice.
People do need to bepunished when they commit
a crime, and they need asentence that's proportionate
to their crime.
But the second they stepinto the criminal justice
system, we want to see them put on a path
that helps them becomehealthier and more productive
citizens because 95% ofpeople who go to prison
will return to our communities.
And we would want themreturning to our communities
as safer people.
- And Mark, what kind ofsupport are you seeing
from the lawmakers?
- Well it's at the federal level.
With the state level, asyou know, for the last 10 or
15 years, there've beenrevitalizing and reforming their
criminal justice systems.
Texas, South Carolina, and Georgia.
It's taken a longer time toget there at the federal level.
At the federal level, nowit seems to be everything
is coming together.
President Trump is fully on board.
He's fully on board with prison reform,
he's fully on board withthe sensing reform issues
as well that the Senate has introduced.
The House, the House ofRepresentatives passed
this bill 360 to 59 inthis incredibly polarized
environment we're in.
That flew through the Houseand a lot of our good friends,
I think every one of thefreedom Caucus members
voted for it.
So we've got that in theSenate, we've got broad
support from Republican's and Democrat's.
This is the time to doit and really it's called
the First Step Act for a reason.
We haven't had any real reforms other than
the fair sentencing act a few years ago
that have made our system less punitive
and more redemptive.
This is gonna be a big first step,
and that means after that,there's going to be more to do.
So we're very excited, andthis is the time to do it.
We're hopeful we get it done this year.
- Yeah, it's nice to that bipartisanship
and it's rare here in Washington.
This next question for you James, how has
the faith community involved in this?
And what role do churchesand other organization's
have to play?
- Absolutely, we actuallyworked with the Charles Koch
Institute to pilot a program, a curriculum
that we distributed to churchescalled Outrageous Justice
to help better educatethe Church community on
the importance of takingthis issue seriously.
Remember, in Matthew 25,Jesus himself calls us
to visit the imprisoned, right.
And Hebrews were calledto visit those imprisoned
as if we are serving time with them.
This is close to the heart of our Lord,
and it needs to be close to the Church,
the capitalcy churchcommunity because we are one
body in Christ and ourbrothers and sisters
in the Lord in prison needto be part of that body.
- So the big question is,can it get past the Senate?
Mark what do you think?
How hopeful are you?
- Very hopeful, I thinkright now it would,
with the votes we haveright now that we're aware
of the hard yeses, combinedDemocrat's and Republican's
we would get more than 60 votes.
And I think that that'sjust gonna more and more
pick up momentum with sometweaks that could be coming
to the bill to get more people on.
So we're very optimisticabout it and it needs
to happen, it has to happenand everybody that we've
dealt with by large, there'sa couple of outliers,
but by and large everybodyis trying to get to yes
on this cause they knowhow important it is.
And they come fromstates where it's worked
and it's really saved people's lives,
made communities safer,made law enforcement safer.
And reduced incarcerationrates, reduced recidivism,
and also freed upresources for other things
that are needed like Kthrough 12 education.
So in the states itsworked, and we're gonna see
that happen at the federal level as well.
- And Prison Fellowshipon Thursday night, Mark,
awarded you with the Charles Colson award,
tell us a little bit about that.
- So each year we issue five awards.
One of them is the CharlesColson Advocate of Hope
award, the governor ofKentucky, Governor Bevin
nominated Mark for theaward and it was really
a wonderful night lastnight celebrating his work,
his passion for criminal justice.
This man has played arole in federal campaigns,
in state campaigns, all overthe country to implement
a more restorative approachto criminal justice
since we had the chance to honor him.
- Congratulations, andboth of you, wonderful,
this is such an importantcause and one that I know
you've both worked very very hard on.
So thank you so much for joining us today.
- Thank you so much.- Thanks for having us.
We appreciate it.
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The DOW was down about560 points at the close
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The S&P was down morethan 4% for the week.
All of this begs thequestion, what is behind
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Is it a slowdown for our booming economy?
Or are we looking at a possible recession?
- No this is no recession,look if you look at
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Those have been verystrong, which is moving in a
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So I think the economy is really strong.
- [Jenna] Stephen Moore, aneconomist with the Heritage
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First, the trade friction with China.
- I think the problem hasbeen investors are spooked
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And it looked like wehad a trade deal done
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- [Jenna] The second concern,rising interest rates.
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- [Jenna] His advice.
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- Much of America pausedthis week to honor the life
and legacy of PresidentGeorge Herbert Walker Bush.
And after a final day ofmoving tributes, laughter,
and tears, the 41st Presidenthas been laid to rest.
Jennifer Wishon has moreon his remarkable journey
to his final resting place in Texas.
- [Jennifer] For his final trip.
(train horn)
George Herbert Walker Bushchose a mode of transportation
befitting one of the last President's of
the greatest generation.
(train horn)
A train bearing his name.
Thousands of Texans linedthe rails to honor 41
as he traveled to his final destination,
the Bush presidentiallibrary in College Station.
- It's just an honor to behere, he served our country
for so many years.
- [Jennifer] It was apeaceful journey that
began in Houston at Saint Martins Church.
♪ Amazing grace ♪
A final service to say goodbye.
At the same place the Bushfamily gathered in April
to remember their motherand grandmother Barbara.
♪ In heaven ♪
Bush's secretary of state and dear friend
James Baker was with him when he died.
- We rejoiced Mr Presidentthat you are safely
tucked in now and throughthe ages with God's
loving arms around you.
Because our glory George was to have had
you as our President and as such a friend.
- [Jennifer] His grandsonand namesake George P Bush
offering yet another heart warming glimpse
into the life of 41.
- In a typical day, he'dwake up around 5:00 AM
to review security briefingsand grab his first coffee
of the day.
When the coast was clear,all the grandkids would
try our best to snag a spoton the bed and nestle up
between him and Gannywhile they read the paper.
- [Jennifer] Onto college Station.
(presidential music)
One final hail to the Chiefand the largest missing man
formation ever with 21fighter jets honoring
the former navy pilot.
(planes flying)
Bush now rests alongsidehis wife of 73 years,
his silver fox that he called Bar.
And his daughter Robin,who the couple lost
to leukemia when she was three.
Now as 41's remarkable lifeof service comes to an end,
for his family.
- God bless you Gampy,until we meet again.
- [Jennifer] And American'severywhere, this final
farewell is bittersweet.
- It's happy becauseGeorge Herbert Walker Bush
gets to be with his wifebut it's sad because well
we don't have him anymore.
- [Jennifer] Amen,Jennifer Wishon CBN News.
- And this weekend, the CBN Newschannel
will rebroadcast Bush41's memorial service
at the national cathedral.
You can see it Saturdayand Sunday at 7:00 AM,
3:00 PM and 8:00 PM.
For more information on howto find the CBN Newschannel
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Well that is going todo it for Faith Nation,
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