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The 700 Club - November 16, 2017

He’s the pastor of America’s hottest church. Hillsong’s Carl Lentz reveals how to, “Own the Moment.” Plus, add years to your lifespan and trick your brain to start thinking younger. Read Transcript


Wendy: TODAY...TIME

FOR YOUR BODY TO TURCH TURN BACK

THE CLOCK.

HOW YOU CAN ADD YEARS TO

YOUR LIFE SPAN.

THIS IS HUGE.

Wendy: AND TRICK YOUR

BRAIN TO START THINKING

YOUNGER.

I FEEL GREAT AND I CAN

STILL SLEEP AT NIGHT.

Wendy: THEN...THE

PASTOR OF AMERICA'S

HOTTEST CHURCH.

TODAY ON "THE 700 CLUB."

*

Pat: WELL, WELCOME,

FOLKS, TO THIS EDITION OF

"THE 700 CLUB."

WE HAVE WONDERFUL THINGS

TO SHARE WITH YOU TODAY.

WE HAVE A SPECIAL HEALTH

FEATURE, AND WENDY IS HERE

WITH US.

I WANT TO ASK WENDY ONE

SIMPLE QUESTION: DO YOU

HAVE SHORT TELOMERES OR

LONG ONES?

Wendy: I HOPE THEY'RE

SHORT, RIGHT?

I WANT SHORT ONES?

Pat: SHORT ONES MEAN

YOU'RE GOING TO DIE.

Wendy: I NEED TO BE

EDUCATED ON WHAT THOSE

ARE, APPARENTLY.

Pam Pat: TELOMERES ON THE

THINGS IN YOUR D.N.A., AND

AS YOU AGE, THEY GET

SHORTER AND SHORTER AND

SHORTER.

AS SHORT AS THEY GET, IT

MEANS YOU'RE GETTING READY

TO DIE.

I WANT YOU TO HAVE LONG

ONES AND LIVE A LONG, LONG

LIFE.

Wendy: SO DO I.

I WANT TO FIND OUT WHAT

THOSE ARE.

Pat: LORIE JOHNSON

HAS A HEALTH FEATURE, AND

WE'LL BE TELLING YOU.

THE OTHER THING WE'RE

GOING TO TALK ABOUT, THE

MOST EXPENSIVE PAINTING

THAT HAS EVER BEEN SOLD IN

THE WORLD.

IT IS ENORMOUSLY

EXPENSIVE.

AND WE'LL TELL YOU WHICH

IT WAS, AND HOW MUCH THEY

SPENT FOR IT.

HUGE.

> WELL, CONGRESSIONAL

REPUBLICANS WILL TAKE

THEIR FIRST MAJOR STEP

TOWARDS TAX REFORM TODAY.

THEY VOTE ON THEIR BILL IN

THE HOUSE, AFTER PRESIDENT

TRUMP SPEAKS TO THEM ON

CAPITOL HILL.

Wendy: BUT PASSING A

TAX BILL IN THE SENATE

MIGHT BE HARDER.

AS ONE REPUBLICAN IS

ALREADY SAYING HE WON'T

VOTE FOR THE TAX BILL AS

IT STANDS NOW.

ABIGAIL ROBERTSON BRINGS

US THIS STORY FROM

WASHINGTON.

Reporter: AS THE

HOUSE GEARS UP TO PASS ITS

VERSION OF TAX REFORM,

SOME QUESTION WHETHER THE

TWO CHAMBERS WILL BE ABLE

TO CLEAR UP ANY DIFFERENCE

AND REACH CONSENSUS BEFORE

CHRISTMAS.

SENATOR TOM TILLIS SAYS

YES.

ABOUT 60%, 70% OF THE

BASE POLICY, WE'VE ALREADY

GOT COMMON GROUND.

AND SOME OF THE THINGS

THAT WEREN'T IN THE HOUSE

BILL, NOW THAT WE'VE HAD

TIME TO HEAR FROM THE

BUSINESS COMMUNITY AND DO

MORE ECONOMIC MODELING,

SOME OF THE CHANGES THAT

WE'LL MAKE WILL BE

WELL-RECEIVED.

SO THAT LEVEL OF

COMMONALITY IS HIGHER THAN

WHEN IT FIRST CAME TO THE

HOUSE.

Reporter: THE SENATE

BILL CALLS FOR A ONE-YEAR

DELAY IN PHASING IN AND

CUTTING THE TAX BILL ON

BUSINESSES.

THE REASON: THEY WANT TO

MAKE THAT LOWER RATE

PERMANENT UNDER SENATE

RULES.

TILLIS SAYS HE KNOWS FROM

EXPERIENCE HOW MUCH

CUTTING THE CORPORATE TAX

RATE CAN HELP THE ECONOMY.

I'VE DONE IT BEFORE AND

IT WORKS.

IN NORTH CAROLINA, WE

FOCUSED ON REDUCING THE

CORPORATE TAX RATE.

WE WENT FROM ONE OF THE

SLOWEST-GROWING STATE

ECONOMIES TO NOW ONE OF

THE FASTEST-GROWING STATE

ECONOMIES.

Reporter: AND THE

SENATE PLAN TAKES A STEP

TOWARDS WEAKENING

OBAMACARE BY REPEALING THE

INDIVIDUAL MANDATE THAT

FORCES PEOPLE TO BUY

INSURANCE OR PAY A

PENALTY, A MOVE SUPPORTED

BY CONSERVATIVES IN BOTH

CHAMBERS.

AND ON THE HOUSE SIDE,

MAJORITY LEADER KEVIN

McCARTHY TELLS CBN NEWS

THE TAX REFORM BILL IS

PRO-GROWTH AND LOOKS OUT

FOR BOTH CHURCHES AND

FAMILIES.

IT LET'S YOU PUT AWAY

FOR A FUTURE FOR YOUR

UNBORN CHILD, WHICH HAS

NEVER BEEN DONE BEFORE IN

A TAX CODE.

AND IT ALSO PROTECTS THE

CHURCHES.

SO MANY TIMES WE HAD

GOVERNMENT TELLING US WHAT

WE COULD SAY INSIDE OUR

CHURCHES.

A LOT OF PEOPLE KNOW ABOUT

THE JOHNSON AMENDMENT.

THIS ONE TAKES CARE OF

THAT.

Reporter: THE JOHNSON

AMENDMENT FORBIDS

NON-PROFIT ORGANIZATIONS,

INCLUDING CHURCHES AND

MINISTRY, FROM SUPPORTING

OR OPPOSING POLITICAL

CANDIDATES.

REPUBLICAN SENATOR JAMES

LANGFORD FEELS CONFIDENT

THE FINAL BILL IN BOTH

CHAMBERS WILL INCLUDE A

REPEAL OF THE JOHNSON

AMENDMENT.

WE FEEL VERY GOOD ABOUT

PROTECTING THE FREE-SPEECH

RIGHTS OF EVERY AMERICAN.

WE FEEL LIKE THIS WILL BE

THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE ABLE

TO REPAIR THIS.

Reporter: BUT THE

MASSIVE TAX OVERHAUL COULD

BE IN TROUBLE, WITH

REPUBLICAN SENATOR RON

JOHNSON ANNOUNCING HE

WON'T SUPPORT IT.

G.O.P. SENATORS CAN ONLY

AFFORD TWO NO VOTES OR THE

BILL WON'T PASS, BUT THEY

REMAIN OPTMISTIC.

REPUBLICAN LEADERS FEEL

CONFIDENT THEY WILL REACH

A COMPROMISE ON THE

DETAILS AND HAVE A BILL ON

THE PRESIDENT'S DESK BY

THE END OF THIS YEAR.

REPORTING FROM CAPITOL

HILL, ABIGAIL ROBERTSON,

CBN NEWS.

Pat: THANKS, ABIGAIL.

WONDERFUL NEWS.

BUT, LISTEN, THAT RON

JOHNSON, WHAT HE IS SAYING

ESSENTIALLY IS HE WOULD

LIKE SMALL BUSINESSES TO

GET THE SAME DEAL THAT THE

MAJOR CORPORATIONS ARE

GETTING.

AND THAT MEANS THAT

ESCORPS WILL NOT BE

PENALIZED.

THAT'S AN EASY THING TO

FIX.

HE IS NOT OPPOSED TO THIS

BILL.

WHAT HE WANTS TO DO IS

MAKE IT A BIT MORE LENIENT

FOR SMALL BUSINESSES.

I DON'T THINK THEY'LL HAVE

TOO MUCH TROUBLE GETTING

SOME SUPPORT FOR THAT.

IT LOOKS LIKE ALL THESE

MAJOR ISSUES ARE GETTING

SOLVED.

AND THE SENATE AND THE

HOUSE ARE MOVING TOGETHER

TO GET A BILL.

I THINK THE WAY THEY'RE

WORKING NOW, THEY TALK

ABOUT BEFORE THE END OF

THE YEAR, AND I THINK

THEY'LL HAVE A BILL BEFORE

THANKSGIVING.

THEY REALLY ARE WORKING,

AND THE HOUSE LOOKS LIKE

IT IS GOING TO PASS TAX

REFORM, WITH ALL OF THE

FEATURES THAT LOOK GOOD.

SO GOOD NEWS.

> WELL, IN OTHER NEWS,

PRESIDENT TRUMP ALSO SAYS

HE HAS BROUGHT THE NATIONS

OF ASIA TOGETHER, TO STAND

AGAINST NORTH KOREA'S

NUCLEAR WEAPONS PROGRAM.

CHARLENE AARON HAS THAT.

Charlene: THAT'S

RIGHT, PAT.

THE PRESIDENT SAYS HE MADE

CLEAR THAT OTHER

COUNTRIES, ASIDE FROM THE

U.S., MUST FORCE NORTH

KOREA TO GIVE UP ITS

NUCLEAR AMBITIONS.

President Trump: I

CALLED ON EVERY NATION,

INCLUDING CHINA AND

RUSSIA, TO UNITE IN

ISOLATING THE NORTH KOREAN

REGIME, CUTTING OFF ALL

TRADE AND COMMERCE UNTIL

HIS STOPSED DANGEROUS PRO

PROVOCATION ON

DENUCLEARIZATION.

Charlene: CHINA IS

NORTH KOREA'S TRADITIONAL

ALLY.

"U.S.A. TODAY" POINTS OUT

THAT NORTH KOREA HAS NOW

GONE TWO MONTHS WITHOUT

TEST-FIRING A MISSILE.

THAT IS THE LONGEST

STRETCH THIS YEAR WITHOUT

A LAUNCH.

> WELL, THE GRAND

OPENING OF THE MUSEUM OF

THE BIBLE IN WASHINGTON IS

TOMORROW.

THE MUSEUM SHOWS HOW THE

BIBLE HAS AFFECTED SOCIETY

THROUGHOUT HISTORY.

BUT A QUESTION WE SOUGHT

TO ANSWER IS: HOW AND

WHERE IS GOD HIMSELF,

JESUS, REPRESENTED INSIDE

THE MUSEUM?

DAVID BRODY BRINGS US THAT

STORY.

David: WHEN YOU WALK

INTO THE MUSEUM OF THE

BIBLE, THERE IS A HUGE WOW

FACTOR.

THIS BUILDING IS

BEAUTIFUL.

A LOT OF ELECTRONIC

GADGETS, GIZMOS, DISPLAYS,

MOVIES, COOL SOUND

AFFECTS.

BUT WHAT ABOUT THE JESUS

FACTOR?

IN OTHER WORDS, WHERE IS

JESUS IN THIS MUSEUM,

EXACTLY?

AFTER ALL, HE IS GOD.

YOU CAN'T TELL THE

STORY OF THE BIBLE WITHOUT

TELLING THE STORY OF

JESUS.

David: MUSEUM

OFFICIALS SAY YOU WILL

FIND JESUS, AND INDEED

THERE ARE REFERENCES TO

HIM SPRINKLED THROUGHOUT.

AND HE IS ALSO MENTIONED

IN A VIDEO IN

ARCHEOLOGICAL FINDINGS IN

CAPERNA.

AND A JESUS PLAQUE

EXPLAINS HOW GOSPEL

WRITERS SAY JESUS CALLED

HIMSELF THE SON OF MAN.

BUT THAT PLAQUE IS NESTLED

IN BETWEEN THE PLAQUES OF

OTHER HISTORICAL BIBLICAL

FIGURES.

FROM A CONTENT PERS

PERSPECTIVE, IT IS THE

MUSEUM OF THE BIBLE.

THE BIBLE HAS A LOT OF

CHARACTERS, AND ONE OF

THOSE CHARACTERS IS JESUS.

SO JESUS IS AN IMPORTANT

CHARACTER THROUGHOUT THE

MUSEUM.

THE FOCUSES IS MORE ON THE

HISTORICAL SPREAD OF THE

BIBLE.

David: IT SURE SEEMS

THAT WAY BECAUSE TRYING TO

FIND AN IMAGE OF JESUS,

BEYOND THE ART, PROVED

UNSUCCESSFUL.

WE DECIDED IT IS BEST

NOT BECAUSE THERE IS NO

ACTUAL PHOTOGRAPHIC OR

ACTUAL IMAGE OF HIM, AND

TO NOT VENTURE AND BRING

OUR OPINIONS HERE.

SO THAT'S WHY YOU WON'T

SEE A PICTURE OF JESUS IN

THE MUSEUM.

David: BUT WHAT

ABOUT THE BIBLICAL STORY

OF HIS BIRTH?

IN THE 12-MINUTE MOVIE

DEVOTED TO THE NEW

TESTAMENT, IT IS NOT

MENTIONED.

IT IS THE NEW TESTAMENT

MOVIE.

WHY NOT THE BIRTH ABOUT

JESUS?

WELL, IN 12 MINUTES,

YOU HAVE TO BE SELECTIVE.

WE DECIDED OUR MAIN THEME

WAS GOING TO BE THE SPREAD

OF THIS SMALL GROUP.

THEY START WITH A FEW

JEWISH BELIEVERS.

THEY EXPAND TO A LARGER

POOL OF JEWISH BELIEVERS.

AND THEN IT EXPANDS AROUND

THE WORLD INTO A CHURCH OF

JEW AND GENTILE.

David: BUT BEYOND

THE MOVIE, THERE IS NO

ACTUAL AREA DEVOTED TO

CHRIST'S BIRTH, DEATH, AND

RESURRECTION, DESPITE THE

FACT THAT THERE ARE FIVE

EXHIBIT FLOORS AND MORE

THAN 400,000 SCARE FEET OF

SPACE.

WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT

ACTUAL EXHIBIT SPACES, IT

IS A MUSEUM ABOUT THE

BIBLE.

SO IT IS GOING TO TEND TO

HAVE A LOT OF MANUSCRIPTS

AND BOOKS.

YOU ONLY HAVE SO MUCH

SPACE.

WE DECIDED TO TRY TO

FEATURE WHAT IS THE

INFLUENCE ON MUSIC AND

LITERATURE.

AND IN THOSE YOU'RE GOING

TO HAVE THE IMPACT OF

JESUS AND MAYBE NATIVITY

WITHIN REFERENCES TO SONGS

AND FILMS AND THINGS LIKE

THAT.

SO, AGAIN, IT IS A BIT OF

A DIFFERENT APPROACH.

David: BUT WHEN YOU

TOUR THE NAZARETH VILLAGE

WHERE JESUS GREW UP, THERE

IS NO MENTION OF JESUS'

TIME THERE.

KEEP IN MIND THAT THE

MISSION OF THE MUSEUM

CHANGED OVER THE YEARS.

IN 2011, THE MISSION WAS,

QUOTE, "TO BRING TO LIFE

THE LIVING WORD OF GOD, TO

TELL ITS COMPELLING STORY

OF PRESERVATION, AND TO

INSPIRE CONFIDENCE IN THE

ABSOLUTE AUTHORITY AND

RELIABILITY OF THE BIBLE."

TODAY THE MISSION IS MORE

SCHOLASTIC IN NATURE,

WHERE THEY, QUOTE, "INVITE

ALL PEOPLE TO ENGAGE IN

THE HISTORY, NARRATIVE,

AND IMPACT OF THE BIBLE."

THE OFFICIALS HERE ARE

HOPING THIS GOOD BOOK,

CALLED THE BIBLE, SPURS

CURIOSITY, ESPECIALLY WITH

THOSE WHO QUESTION ITS

AUTHENTICITY.

WE HOPE THEY PICK UP

AND START READING IT,

WHETHER IT IS THE GOSPEL

OR THE EPISTLES OR

ANYTHING IN THE HEBREW

BIBLE.

THAT'S OUR HOPE.

David: DAVID BRODY,

CBN NEWS.

Charlene: WE SHOULD

ALSO POINT OUT THERE ARE

TEMPORARY EXHIBITS IN THE

MUSEUM FROM TIME TO TIME,

AND ONE OF THEM IS THE

CROSS, DEPICTING THE LAST

HOURS OF JESUS' LIFE.

> A PAINTING OF CHRIST

BY FAMED ARTIST LEONARDO

DA VINCI HAS FETCHED IS

RECORD-BREAKING PRICE AT

AUCTION, $450 MILLION.

THE PAINTING IS CALLED

"SALVATORE MUNDI."

IT HAS TRADED HANDS ALL

OVER THE WORLD, FROM KING

CHARLES THE FIRST OF

ENGLAND, ALL THE WAY TO

LOUISIANA IN 2005.

THERE A GROUP OF ART

DEALERS PAID LESS THAN

$10,000 FOR THE PAINTING,

WHICH WAS IN NEED OF

REPAIR.

THE DEALERS RESTORED IT

AND DOCUMENTED ITS

AUTHENTICITY, AND THIS

WEEK ART-LOVERS LINED UP

OUTSIDE CHRISTIE'S TO

CATCH A GLIMPSE OF THE

FAMED PORTRAIT.

PAT?

Pat: DA VINCI,

$450 MILLION.

Wendy: HE DEPICTED

CHRIST TO THE BEST OF HIS

ABILITY, WET THER YET THERE ARE NO

PICTURES OF JESUS IN THE

MUSEUM OF THE BIBLE.

Pat: THEY SPENT

$500 MILLION ON THAT

MUSEUM OF THE BIBLE.

SO THIS ONE PICTURE HAS

BROUGHT ALMOST AS MUCH

MONEY AS THAT ENORMOUS

MUSEUM.

THAT IS INCREDIBLE.

I GUESS THEY FIGURE IT IS

LIKE HAVING THAT THE MON MONA

LISA.

Wendy: THEY TALKED

ABOUT, WELL, THE BIBLE

HISTORY MANY CHARACTERS,

BUT THERE IS ALWAYS A STAR

IN THE MOVIE, RIGHT?

SO...

Pat: I CAN'T BELIEVE

IT.

LEAVING THAT OUT, I

THINK -- THEY'RE SO INTENT

ON NOT HAVING CONTROVERSY

WITH OTHER FAITHS.

THEY WANT TO HAVE

EVERYBODY COME TO LOOK AT

THE BIBLE.

WELL, OKAY.

WE LOVE THEM, AND I

APPRECIATE THEM, SO I

DON'T WANT TO DO ANYTHING

TO DUMP ON THESE FINE

PEOPLE.

OKAY, WENDY, WE'RE GOING

TO FIND OUT ABOUT YOU.

[LAUGHTER]

Wendy: AND MAYBE YOU,

TOO.

UP NEXT, A DOCTOR MAKES A

DISTURBING DISCOVERY ABOUT

HERSELF.

TELOMERES ARE THE BEST

MARKER OF BIOLOGICAL, AS

OPPOSED TO CHRONOLOGICAL

AGING.

AT AGE 45, I HAD THE

TELOMERES OF A 65-YEAR-OLD

WOMAN.

THAT'S NOT WHAT YOU WANT

TO HEAR WHEN YOU'RE 45

YEARS OLD.

Wendy: SEE WHAT THIS

DOCTOR DID TO TURN BACK

THE CLOCK, AND HOW YOU CAN

DO THE SAME, AFTER THIS.

Pat: WELL, WE ALL

GROW OLD, BUT SOME OF US

DO IT SLOWER THAN OTHERS.

AND MANY PEOPLE ARE

ACTUALLY AGING FASTER THAN

THEY SHOULD BECAUSE OF

POOR FOOD CHOICES AND BAD

LIFESTYLES.

BUT AS OUR LORIE JOHNSON

TELLS US, THERE ARE DOZENS

OF WAYS TO KEEP THE CLOCK

FROM ADVANCING TOO FAST.

ACTUALLY DECADES WORTH OF

TIME CAN BE YOURS IF YOU

DO IT RIGHT.

Lorie: WE ALL WANT

STRONG, DISEASE-FREE

BODIES AND MINDS TO

CONTINUE WORKING, DOING

THINGS WE LOVE AND

SPENDING QUALITY TIME WITH

PEOPLE WE CARE ABOUT.

OUR DRIVER'S LICENSE SAYS

WE'RE ONE AGE, BUT INSIDE

OUR BODIES, MICROSCOPIC

TELOMERES MAY TELL A

DIFFERENT STORY.

SCIENTISTS CAN MEASURE

THEM AND SAY THE LONGER,

THE BETTER.

TELOMERES ACT MUCH LIKE A

PLASTIC TIP ON A SHOE

LACE.

THEY PROTECT OUR

CHROMOSOMES AND D.N.A.,

BUT OVER TIME, AS CELLS

DIVIDE, TELOMERES SHRINK,

CAUSING HEALTH ISSUES.

THE QUICKER OUR TELOMERES

SHRINK, THE QUICKER WE

AGE.

WOMEN'S HEALTH PHYSICIAN

SARA GOTTFRIED NOTICED SHE

WAS FEELING OLDER THAN SHE

SHOULD AND WENT FOR

TESTING.

I WAS 45.

I WAS INTERESTED IN

TELOMERES, THE LITTLE CAPS

ON YOUR CHROME INTOAMS, CHROMOSOMES.

AND I FLUNGED THE TEST.

AT AGE 45, I HAD THE

TELOMERES OF A 65-YEAR-OLD

WOMAN.

Lorie: THE DOCTOR

DISCOVERED UNHEALTHY

LIFESTYLE CHOICES ARE THE

MAIN REASONS TELOMERES

SHRINK TOO FAST.

I THINK THE BIGGEST

PROBLEM THAT NO ONE KNOWS

ABOUT IS THAT THEY'RE

AGING TOO FAST.

THE INTERESTING PART FOR

ME IS THAT YOU CAN MEASURE

THIS.

Lorie: SHE DEVELOPED

HER OWN TEST TO SCORE HOW

WELL A PERSON IS AGING,

WHICH SHE SHARES IN HER

BOOK, "YOUNGER."

IT TOOK ME ABOUT FIVE

YEARS TO DEVELOP IT.

WE HAD A THOUSAND PEOPLE

GO THROUGH IT.

MOSTLY WOMEN, ABOUT 98%.

AND THEY AVERAGED ABOUT 10

YEARS THAT THEY ADDED ON

TO THEIR HEALTH SPAN.

Lorie: LIKE

56-YEAR-OLD CATHY PICKLE.

I WAS TIRED ALL THE

TIME.

Lorie: SHE WANTED HER

YOUTHFUL ENERGY BACK.

I'VE GOT KIDS AND I

WANT TO STILL BE ACTIVE

WITH THEM, BECAUSE THEY'RE

ALL REALLY ACTIVE.

Lorie: THE DOCTOR

IDENTIFIED A NUMBER OF

THINGS THAT CAUSE US TO

FEEL OLD AND SLUGGISH.

THE BIG ONE IS I USED

TO NOT EAT MANY GREENS AT

ALL.

IT WAS BAD.

Lorie: CARBOHYDRATES

AND PROCESSED FOODS CAN

SPEED UP AGING, ALONG WITH

CARRYING TOO MANY POUNDS,

SO SWITCH TO A DIET OF

MOSTLY VEGETABLES, HEALTHY

PROTEIN, LIKE FISH, AND

GOOD FATS, SUCH AS

AVOCADOS AND OLIVE OIL.

I STARTED USING GREENS

IN MY SHAKES AND MEALS AND

I STARTED FEELING BETTER.

Lorie: THE DOCTOR

RECOMMENDS DRINKING BONE

BROTH.

IT IS ANTI-INFLAMMATORY

AND LOADED WITH

SKIN-FIRMING COLLAGEN.

FERMENTED VEGETABLES, LIKE

KIMCHI, CONTAIN

PRO-BIOTICS, AND HELPS

RESET BLOOD SUGAR, WHICH

STARTS TO INCREASE AFTER

AGE 40.

WHILE EATING THE RIGHT

FOOD KEEPS US YOUNGER

LONGER, SO CAN GOING

WITHOUT FOOD ALL TOGETHER,

BECAUSE FASTING CAN MAKE

OUR CELLS MORE EFFICIENT.

THE DOCTOR RECOMMENDS NO

FOOD THREE HOURS BEFORE

BEDTIME, AND 12 HOURS

BETWEEN DINNER AND

BREAKFAST.

INCREASE THAT FAST TO 16

HOURS BETWEEN DINNER AND

BREAKFAST ONCE OR TWICE A

WEEK.

WHEN IT COMES TO

GROWING YOUNGER, I THINK

ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT

THINGS TO DO IS EXERCISE.

Lorie: SHE SAYS YOU

SHOULD WALK EACH DAY, BUT

DON'T STOP THERE.

ADD SPRINTING TO YOUR RESH

REGIMEN, AS WELL AS

JUMPING.

WHAT EXERCISE IN THE

BODY IS IT TRICKS THE

BRAIN INTO THINKING THAT

YOU'RE YOUNGER.

Lorie: WE LOSE MUSCLE

AS WE AGE, BUT LIFTING

WEIGHTS CAN REPLACE IT.

AGING GRACEFULLY REQUIRES

PROPER SLEEP.

SEVEN TO EIGHT AND A HALF

HOURS A NIGHT.

I HAVE FOUND THAT IF I

COME HOME AFTER WORK, IF

I'M REALLY TIRED, I GO AND

TAKE A NAP FOR MAYBE A

HALF HOUR, 45 MINUTES, AND

I AM REJUVENATED.

AND THEN FOR THE NEXT

THREE, FOUR HOURS I FEEL

GREAT.

AND I CAN STILL SLEEP AT

NIGHT.

Lorie: FINALLY,

STRESS.

THERE WAS A COST TO

BEING A WORKING MOTHER,

BURNING THE CANDLE AT BOTH

ENDS.

THERE WAS A COST TO MY

MEDICAL TRAINING.

AND IT SHOWED UP IN MY

TELOMERES.

SO THIS IS A PROBLEM I

THINK A LOT OF PEOPLE

DON'T KNOW THEY HAVE.

AND WE NEED TO ADDRESS IT.

Lorie: WALKING FOR 20

MINUTES IN A CALM SETTING

RESETS CORTISOL, THE

STRESS HORMONE, AND

BENEFITS THE BRAIN.

AND ALSO FOAM ROLLERS HELP

RELIEVE TIGHT MUSCLES THAT

STORE TENSION AND STRESS.

AND DON'T FORGET, PRAYER

MINIMIZES ANXIETY AS WELL.

SO WHILE NEW INFORMATION

SHOWS AN ESTIMATED 90% OF

THE SIGNS OF AGING AND

DISEASE ARE CAUSED BY

LIFESTYLE CHOICES, SMART

ONES MEAN IT IS POSSIBLE

TO STAY YOUNGER LONGER.

LORIE JOHNSON, CBN NEWS.

Pat: THANKS, LORIE.

NOW WHEN SOMEBODY ASKS YOU

THE QUESTION, DO YOU HAVE

SHORT TELOMERES OR LONG,

THE ANSWER IS LONGER.

Wendy: I HOPE I HAVE

LONGER ONES.

Pat: YOU DO.

I'VE LEARNED THE SECRET OF

STAYING YOUNG.

Wendy: EXERCISE IS

REALLY THE FOUNTAIN OF

YOUTH.

Pat: I'M A TOTAL FA FAN OF THE

TOTAL GYM.

THERE IS A SYSTEM OF

PULLEYS, AND THERE ARE

ABOUT 60 EXERCISES YOU CAN

DO ON THIS TOTAL GYM.

DO YOU USE THE TOTAL GYM?

Wendy: I HAVE SEEN

THE COMMERCIALS, AND I'M

TEMPTED.

Pat: DON'T AND

TEMPTED.

GO GET ONE.

YOU CAN COME AND USE MINE.

Wendy: I LIKE A STAIR

CLIMBER.

GIVE ME THE STAIR CLIMBER

FOR 20 MINUTES AND I'M A

HAPPY CAMPER.

Pat: THAT'S GOOD.

PIMY TELOMERES MUST BE

LONGER.

I'M GOING TO GO TO A

HUNDRED, AND MAYBE MORE.

Wendy: LET'S SAY

MORE.

WE NEED YOU, PAT.

ALL RIGHT, UP NEXT, A

FORMER FOOTBALL PLAYER

PICKS UP A BAD HABIT TO

DEAL WITH HIS PAIN.

I GO TO THE CLINIC

EVERY 28 DAYS, AND I GET

360 PILLS A MONTH, AND I

BECAME A DRUG ADDICT.

Wendy: WATCH THIS MAN

FACE HIS MOMENT OF TRUTH

AT A CEMETERY.

Pat: HEY, YOU'RE

WATCHING "THE 700 CLUB."

WE'RE DELIGHTED TO HAVE

YOU WITH US.

I'M GOING TO TELL YOU

ABOUT A YOUNG MAN.

HIS NAME IS ALTON BROSS.

HE WAS PSYCHED ABOUT

PLAYING FOOTBALL AT THE

UNIVERSITY OF FLORIDA.

BUT WHEN HE REGISTERED IN

HIS FRESHMAN YEAR, HIS EGO

TOOK A TREMENDOUS BLOW.

AND ALTON SAID, I'M GOING

TO GET SOLACE IN ALCOHOL

AND DRUGS.

AND SOON HIS FOOTBALL

DREAMS WERE A DISTANT

MEMORY.

I'M THE 26th BEST

QUARTERBACK IN THE ENTIRE

NATION, AND THE THIRD OR

FOURTH BEST QUARTERBACK IN

THE STATE OF FLORIDA.

THAT'S WHO I WAS.

Reporter: HIGH SCHOOL

STAR ALTON VOSS ALWAYS

LOVED FOOTBALL.

IT BROUGHT THE BEST OUT

OF ME.

I REALIZED FOOTBALL IS MY

WAY TO GET A SCHOLARSHIP.

THERE WAS ALREADY THE

DREAM IN PLAYING IN THE

NFL.

I WAS ON THAT TRACK.

Reporter: ALTON

EARNED A FULL RIDE TO THE

UNIVERSITY OF SOUTH

FLORIDA.

HE REPORTED TO SUMMER

PRACTICE WITH HIGH

EXPECTATIONS, BUT HE

DIDN'T GET TO PLAY.

I HAD NEVER BEEN THE

SECOND STRING OR THIRD

STRING.

AND THERE IS NO STRING FOR

YOU, AND SO MY EGO WAS

HURT.

I WAS STARTING TO FEEL

LIKE A LOSER AT THAT POINT

IN MY LIFE.

Reporter: HE GOT

HEAVILY INTO THE PARTY

SCENE AND DISCOVERED

ALCOHOL SOOTHED HIS

BRUISED EGO.

ALL OF THOSE THOUGHTS

AND WORRIES, ALL OF THAT

STRESS, JUST WENT AWAY.

Reporter: BY THE

SPRING, HE ADDED OXYCODONE

TO HELP HIM DEAL WITH

YEARS OF FOOTBALL

INJURIES.

I LIKED IT, WHAT IT DID

TO ME AND HOW IT MADE ME

FEEL.

I KNEW FOOTBALL WAS

BRINGING A LOT OF PAIN

INTO MY LIVE.

LIFE.

SO ONE DAY I GAVE UP

FOOTBALL.

Reporter: BACK HOME,

ALTON FAKED AN INJURY TO

OBTAIN HIS SUPPLY OF MEDS.

WHEN I STOPPED

FOOTBALL, THERE WAS A BIG

VOID TO BE FILLED, AND MY

DRUG USE FILLED THAT VOID.

I WOULD GO TO THE CLINIC

EVERY 28 DAYS, AND I WOULD

GET 360 PILLS A MONTH AND

I BECAME A DRUG ADDICT.

Reporter: THEN HE

WENT TO SEE A FRIEND IN

MICHIGAN, HOPING THE

CHANGE WOULD HELP.

I COULDN'T DO ANYTHING

RIGHT.

I DIDN'T HAVE A DIRECTION.

,

DIDN'T SEE THE LIGHT AT

THE END OF THE TUNNEL.

Reporter: BUT THE

DRUGS HAD AFFECTED HIS

THINKING.

AND ONE MORNING WHILE

WANDERING THE STREETS, HE

STOLE A CAR.

HE ENDED UP AT A CEMETERY.

AS SOON AS I TAKE MY

FIRST STEP INTO THE

CEMETERY AND BREAK THAT

THRESHOLD, I'M NORMAL FOR

THE FIRST TIME IN ABOUT

FOUR DAYS.

AND I'M LOOKING AROUND,

AND I REALIZE THAT, YOU

KNOW, I'M GOING TO BE

DEAD, LIKE THIS PEOPLE IN

FRONT OF ME, IF I DON'T

CHANGE MY WAYS.

SO AT THAT MOMENT I GOT ON

MY KNEES AND I PRAYED TO

GOD FOR THE FIRST TIME IN

MY LIFE.

I JUST TOLD HIM THAT, I

WAS TIRED OF BEING TIRED.

I WAS GIVING THIS TO HIM.

IT WAS A HUGE RELIEF.

I HAD SO MUCH WEIGHT ON MY

SHOULDERS, AND WHERE I WAS

AT, AND JUST CRYING AS I

WAS GIVING THAT PRAYER.

I FELT LIKE I WAS LIGHTER.

I JUST RELEASED SO MUCH

JUST JUNK.

IT WAS JUST VERY FREEING.

Reporter: HE LEFT THE

CEMETERY AND WAS

IMMEDIATELY ARRESTED.

WHILE IN JAIL, ALTON

CONTINUED TO PRAY TO GOD.

HELP ME, BE WITH ME,

GUIDE ME BECAUSE WHERE I'M

AT RIGHT NOW, I'M NOT IN A

GOOD PLACE.

Reporter: ASSIGNED TO

HIS CASE WAS JANE

PATTERSON, A PUBLIC

DEFENDER IN A CHRISTIAN.

THERE WAS JUST

SOMETHING, I THINK

CHILD-LIKE IN THIS GREAT

BIG BODY OF HIS.

HE WAS ON SOME MEDS, AND

HIS ABILITY TO KIND OF

FOCUS WAS LOST.

HE JUST LOOKED LOST.

AND HE WAS GENTLE AND HE

WAS HUMBLE AND HE WAS

CONFUSED.

Reporter: JANE GOT

THE CHARGES DROPPED TO A

MISDEMEANOR.

AND ALTON WAS SENT BACK TO

FLORIDA.

I TOLD HIM -- I SAID, I

DON'T KNOW WHAT IT IS

ABOUT YOU, ALTON, BUT I AM

JUST COMPELLED TO TELL

YOU, IF YOU NEED TO TALK

TO SOMEBODY, IF YOU NEED

ADVICE, YOU MAY CALL ME.

FROM THAT DAY ON, HE

STARTED CALLING ME ONCE A

DAY, A COUPLE OF TIMES A

DAY.

WE WOULD TEXT BACK AND

FORTH.

I HAD THE BIBLE AND I

WOULD JUST OPEN THE BOOK,

AND I PUT MY FINGER DOWN,

AND WHEREVER IT LANDED, I

WOULD JUST READ THE

SCRIPT.

I WOULD TRY TO UNDERSTAND

IT MYSELF.

AND I WOULD TAKE A SCREEN

SHOT AND I'D SEND IT TO

JANE, AND WE WOULD JUST

HAVE DIALOGUE OVER IT.

Reporter: BEFORE

LONG, ALTO ALTON RETURNED TO

HIS DRUG USE.

JANE COULDN'T SHAKE THE

FEELING SHE NEEDED TO DO

MORE.

I WAS BEING WAKEN UP IN

THE MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT,

AND IF YOU DON'T DO

SOMETHING, HIS GUY IS

GOING TO DIE OR END IN A

PSYCH WARD.

Reporter: SHE TALKED

TO HER HUSBAND, AND THEY

DECIDED TO SEND HIM TO A

REHAB IN ARGENTINA.

THEY TREAT THE HOLE.

I LEARNED RIGHT AWAY,

FOOTBALL DOESN'T DEFINE

ME.

AND THAT WAS PROBABLY THE

FIRST IDEA I HAD TO

OVERCOME, THAT I WAS MORE

THAN FOOTBALL.

HE DID NOT LIKE THE

LIFE HE HAD.

HE DID NOT WANT THAT LIFE

ANYMORE.

SO HE WAS WORKING HIS TAIL

OFF TO BE DIFFERENT.

I STARTED TO REALIZE I

HAVE TALENTS, I HAVE

ABILITIES, I HAVE

PASSIONS, AND IT EMPOWERED

ME TO KEEP STRIVING AND TO

LIVE A LIFE FREE OF DRUGS.

Reporter: THROUGHOUT

HIS REHAB, JANE CONTINUED

TO PRAY AND DISCIPLE ALTON

THROUGH E-MAILS AND SKYPE.

EVERY DAY I WOULD READ

MY DAILY DEVOTIONAL AND

READING MY BIBLE.

Reporter: AFTER

REHAB, ALTON RETURNED TO

MICHIGAN, WHERE HE

ATTENDED GRAND VALLEY

UNIVERSITY.

HE ALSO GOT TO PLAY

FOOTBALL AGAIN, BUT THIS

TIME IT WASN'T WHAT HE

LIVED FOR.

FOR ME IT WAS A FRESH

START, WHICH IS WHAT I

WANTED.

AND MY IDENTITY WAS

EVOLVING INTO AN ATHLETE,

BUT THEN I HAD THIS DESIRE

TO SHARE MY STORY BECAUSE

I THOUGHT IT WAS WORTH

SHARING AND IT COULD HELP

PEOPLE.

I'M TRYING TO PREVENT KIDS

FROM MAKING THE SAME

MISTAKES THAT I DID.

AND THE FEELING I GET FROM

SHARING MY STORY IS THE

GREATEST HIGH AND THE

GREATEST SATISFACTION I'VE

LIVED SO FAR.

Reporter: LOOKING

BACK, ALTON CAN SEE GOD'S

HAND ON HIS LIFE, GUIDING

HIM AND SURROUNDING HIM

WITH SPIRITUAL SUPPORT.

IF YOU'RE IN A BAD

SITUATION CURRENTLY RIGHT

NOW, OR IF YOU END UP IN

ONE, ASK FOR HELP.

THAT'S ONE THING I DIDN'T

DO IN THE BEGINNING, I

DIDN'T ASK FOR HELP.

THAT'S WHEN GOD CAME IN

THE PICTURE AND SAID, I'M

GOING TO SAVE THIS GUY.

IT WAS JUST VERY FREEING.

Pat: I IN MARTIN

LUTHER'S TRANSLATION IN

THE 90 PSALM, HE HAS IT

THIS WAY: "LET US

CONTEMPLATE DEATH THAT WE

MIGHT BE WISE."

ALTON LOOKED TO DEATH AND

FOUND IT AT A CEMETERY.

YOU KNOW, WHETHER YOU LIKE

IT OR NOT, TALKING ABOUT

YOUR TELOMERES -- WE'RE

ALL GOING TO DIE.

WE'RE ALL GOING TO DIE.

SOME OF US WILL BE

TRANSLATED AND RAPTURED AT

THE END OF TIME, BUT MOST

OF US ARE GOING TO DIE.

AND YOUR LIFE, WHETHER IT

IS 60 YEARS OR 70 YEARS OR

80 YEARS OR 100 YEARS,

YOU'RE STILL GOING TO DIE.

AND AFTER DEATH, WHAT'S

GOING TO HAPPEN?

WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN

AFTER YOU DIE?

AND MOST OF US HAVE TO

FACE THAT.

AND I WONDER IF YOU'VE

FACED IT YET.

LET'S CONTEMPLATE DEATH,

THAT YOU MIGHT BE WISE.

BECAUSE THAT'S WHERE WE'RE

GOING.

AND THEN WHAT HAPPENS?

AFTER YOU DIE, WHAT DO YOU

DO THEN?

DO YOU RUN FOR POLITICAL

OFFICE?

NO.

DO YOU MAKE A LOT OF

MONEY?

NO.

DO YOU GET TO BE A SUCCESS

AS A MUSICIAN OR ATHLETE

OR MOVIE STAR?

NO.

NONE OF THOSE THINGS AFTER

YOU DIE.

IT IS JUST YOU AND GOD.

YOU AND JESUS.

YOUR SPIRIT INTO ALL

ETERNITY.

AND WHAT'S GOING TO

HAPPEN?

AND THE TRUTH IS THAT

THERE IS A HEAVEN AND

THERE IS A HELL.

AND AFTER DEATH, YOU WILL

HAVE ALREADY MADE THE

DECISION HERE IN THIS LIFE

OF WHERE YOU'RE GOING TO

GO.

SO LET ME ASK YOU, HAVE

YOU CONTEMPLATED DEATH?

AND IF YOU DO, I DON'T

WANT TO YOU GET MORBID,

BUT I WANT YOU TO REALIZE

THAT THE LIFE THAT YOU

HAVE, MAKE IT AS FULL AS

YOU CAN, SEIZE EVERY

OPPORTUNITY TO DO GOOD FOR

YOUR FELLOW MAN, BUT AT

THE SAME TIME RECOGNIZE

THAT IT IS TEMPORARY.

WE HAVE WHAT IS CALLED A

LIFE OF STATE IN TIME, AND

THEN THE LIFE OF STATE IS

OVER.

IT IS NOT PERMANENT.

IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO HAVE

SOMETHING THAT IS

PERMANENT, THE LORD HAS

SAID, I'M GOING TO GIVE

YOU EVERLASTING LIFE.

EVERLASTING LIFE -- THAT

MEANS IT WILL GO ON

FOREVER.

THE LIFE THAT JESUS WILL

GIVE YOU IS EVERLASTING.

YOU WILL NOT LOSE IT.

YOU CANNOT KEEP WHAT YOU

HAVE IN THIS LIFE HERE.

BUT IN THOSE DAYS TO COME,

YOU CAN'T LOSE WHAT HE IS

GOING TO GIVE YOU, IF YOU

COME TO HIM.

YOU DON'T WANT THE

EVERLASTING LIFE THAT WILL

TAKE YOU TO THE WRONG

PLACE BECAUSE IT WILL BE

TORMENT FOREVER.

BUT YOU WANT BLESSING

FOREVER.

YOU WANT TO BE IN THE

PRESENCE OF GOD FOREVER.

AND IF YOU WANT THAT, YOU

HAVE TO JUST ASK.

ASK AND YOU SHALL RECEIVE.

SO WE'RE GOING TO PRAY

TOGETHER.

AND I WANT TO GIVE YOU A

CHANCE TO ASK.

AND I WANT YOU TO LET THE

LORD TAKE YOU AND GIVE YOU

EVERLASTING LIFE.

THESE WORDS -- PRAY WITH

ME.

JESUS -- THAT'S RIGHT,

PRAY WITH ME.

JESUS, I KNOW YOU DIED

THAT I MAY LIVE.

AND I KNOW, LORD, THAT

DEATH AWAITS US ALL.

BUT I WANT TO GO TO BE

WITH YOU FOREVER AFTER I

DIE.

I WANT TO LIVE ETERNALLY

WITH THE FATHER, AND WITH

YOU, IN YOUR HEAVENLY

KINGDOM.

AND YOU TOLD YOUR

DISCIPLES, DON'T REJOICE

THAT THE DEVILS ARE

SUBJECT TO YOU, BUT

REJOICE THAT YOUR NAME IS

WRITTEN IN HEAVEN.

SO, LORD, WRITE MY NAME IN

HEAVEN.

I WANT TO BE PART OF YOUR

KINGDOM.

AND I THANK YOU, THAT

YOU'VE HEARD MY PRAYER.

I GIVE MYSELF TO YOU NOW,

AND I RECEIVE YOUR

BLESSING IN JESUS' NAME.

AND WHEREVER YOU ARE, IF

YOU HAVE PRAYED WITH ME

THAT PRAYER, I WANT TO

GIVE YOU SOMETHING THAT

WILL HELP YOU.

YOU DON'T HAVE TO ASK FOR

IT, BUT IT IS FREE.

AND I'LL GIVE IT TO YOU.

AND IT WILL TELL YOU WHAT

TO DO NEXT.

THERE IS A C.D. AND A

LITTLE PAMPHLET IN HERE,

AND IT'S CALLED "A NEW

DAY."

AND I'LL GIVE IT TO YOU

FREE.

WHY DON'T YOU CALL AND

SAY, I JUST PRAYED WITH

THAT GUY ON TV, I PRAYED

WITH PAT, AND I GAVE MY

HEART TO THE LORD.

1-800-700-7000.

IT IS EASY TO REMEMBER.

IT IS A TOLL-FREE NUMBER.

GO TO YOUR PHONE AND PICK

IT UP AND CALL, AND SAY, I

JUST PRAYED THAT PRAYER

AND I HAVE GIVEN MY HEART

TO THE LORD.

AND WHEN I DIE, I'M GOING

TO HAVE EVERLASTING LIFE

IN JESUS.

OKAY.

HERE IS WENDY.

Wendy: THANKS, PAT.

STILL AHEAD, THE

UNCONVENTIONAL PASTOR WHO

BAPTIZED JUSTIN BIEBER IN

AN NBA PLAYER'S BATHTUB.

CARL LENTZ OF NEW YORK

CITY'S HILLSONG JOINS US

LIVE.

THAT'S COMING UP.

WELCOME BACK TO "THE

700 CLUB."

THE CHURCH OF ENGLAND HAS

ISSUED AN DIRECTIVE TO ITS

4700 SCHOOLS OR

CHALLENGING HOMOPHOBIC

BULLYING.

THE GUIDE SAYS CHILDREN

SHOULD BE ALLOWED TO,

QUOTE, "EXPLORE THE

POCKETS OF WHO THEY BE,"

AND IT SAYS CHRISTIAN

TEACHING SHOULD NOT BE

USED TO MAKE CHILDREN FEEL

ASHAMED OF WHO THEY ARE.

FRANKLIN GRAHAM TWEETED:

"THE CHURCH OF ENGLAND

SHOULD NOT GIVE INTO THE

SINFUL, DESTRUCTIVE AGENDA

OF THE LGBTQ.

THEY SHOULD STAND WITH

GOD'S WORD."

A FORMER GOOGLE

EXECUTIVE HAS FILED PAPER

TO ESTABLISH THE FIRST

CHURCH OF ARTIFICIAL

INTELLIGENCE.

THE NEW RELIGION WILL BE

CALLED THE WAY OF THE

FUTURE.

HE SAYS ARTIFICIAL

INTELLIGENCE WILL

EFFECTIVELY BE A GOD

BECAUSE IT WILL BE A

BILLION TIMES SMARTER THAN

ANY HUMAN.

THE I.R.S. DOCUMENTS SAY

THAT THE CHURCH WILL FOCUS

ON THE REALIZATION,

ACCEPTANCE, AND WORSHIP OF

A GOD HEAD BASED ON

ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE,

A.I., DEVELOPED THROUGH

COMPUTER HARDWARE AND

SOFTWARE.

AND YOU CAN ALWAYS GET THE

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WE'LL BE BACK WITH MORE OF

TODAY'S "700 CLUB" RIGHT

AFTER THIS.

Wendy: CARL LENTZ

STARTED PLAYING BASKETBALL

AT N.C. STATE, AND THEN A

TRIP BACK HOME CHANGED HIS

LIFE FOREVER.

Reporter: CARL LENTZ

IS NOT YOUR TYPICAL

PREACHER.

BECAUSE THE WAY USED TO

BE TO THE OLD TESTAMENT.

Reporter: HE WEARS

LEATHER JACKETS, HAS A

DOZEN TATTOOS, BUT CARL

DOESN'T DRESS TO IMPRESS,

NOR DOES HE TELL YOU WHAT

HE THINKS YOU WANT TO

HEAR.

DO YOU HAVE A RIGHT TO

BE AN INFLUENCER?

IF JESUS IS EVERYTHING TO

YOU, YOU SIT IN A POSITION

OF INFLUENCE RIGHT NOW.

Reporter: CARL

REACHES MILLIONS, FROM THE

FACELESS TO THE FAMOUS.

HE EVEN BAPTIZED JUSTIN

BIEBER IN AT NBA PLAYER'S

BATHTUB.

CARL SHARES WHY SHE TRIED

THE TRIEDTO RUN FROM GOD, AND WHY

HE BELIEVES TRUTH ALWAYS

WINS IN THE END.

Wendy: PLEASE WELCOME

TO "THE 700 CLUB," CARL

LENTZ.

GREAT TO MEET YOU.

WELCOME HOME.

THIS IS YOUR HOME.

YES.

Wendy: AND SOME OF

YOUR FOLKS' FAMILY IS WITH

US --

ALL OF MY FOLK AND

FAMILY.

Wendy: ALL RIGHT.

WE'RE JUST GLAD THEY'RE

HERE.

LET'S TALK ABOUT HILLSONG

NEW YORK.

YOU GET ABOUT 8,000 TO

10,000 PEOPLE EVERY WEEK.

YOU GET A LOT OF

CELEBRITIES, JEW JUSTIN

BIEBER, AND JAY-Z ATTENDS

SOMETIMES.

SOME PEOPLE SAY IS IT THE

COOL FACTOR THAT BRINGS IN

THE BIG CROWDS.

WE HAVE 99.9%

NON-CELEBRITY AT OUR

CHURCH, BUT JUST BECAUSE

WE HAVE A FEW, SOMETIMES

PEOPLE GIVE YOU THAT

MONIKER.

I DON'T THINK IT IS THE

COOL FACTOR BECAUSE I

DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT IS.

WHEN PEOPLE ASK ME THAT

QUESTION, I ALWAYS SAY I

THINK GOD HAS AN AWESOME

WAY OF BREATHING ON WHAT

YOU DO HAVE AND MAKING IT

SOMETIMES BETTER THAN IT

SHOULD BE AND MORE

AFFECTIVE THAN IT WOULD BE

ON ITS OWN.

OUR CHUS CHURCH IS A GOOD

EXAMPLE OF THAT, AND GOD'S

GRACE IS ON IT.

THERE ARE COOL PEOPLE AND

ALSO NOT COOL PEOPLE.

I DON'T THINK I'M COOL.

MY DAUGHTERS TELL ME THAT

ALL OF THE TIME.

[LAUGHTER]

Wendy: THAT'S GOOD.

IN COLLEGE AT N.C. STATE,

YOU ALMOST WALKED AWAY

FROM YOUR FAITH.

WHAT TURNED YOU AROUND?

I THINK REALIZING,

NUMBER ONE, THAT GOD IS

FAITHFUL WHEN WE'RE

FAITHLESS.

THAT'S A HUGE REVELATION.

Wendy: YOU WERE A

BASKETBALL PLAYER AND YOU

HAD A BIBLE WITH YOU --

MANY BIBLES.

Wendy: YOUR PARENTS

WERE MISSIONARIES?

THEY HAVE DONE SO MANY

THINGS, I HAVE LOST COUNT.

BUT THEY WERE AMAZING

CHRISTIAN EXAMPLES.

AND I DEFINITELY LOOKED AT

THEM AND THOUGHT I LOVED

THEM, BUT I DON'T KNOW IF

I CAN LIVE THAT LIFE.

AND I DID MY OWN THING FOR

A WHILE.

AND THEN IN COLLEGE, I

TOOK A RIGHT TURN AND IT

CHANGED MY LIFE.

Wendy: WHAT HAPPENED?

SOMEBODY SAW YOU HAD A

BIBLE IN YOUR ROOM, AND

THEY SAID, IS THAT YOUR

BIBLE.

IN THE BOOK, I TALKED

ABOUT THE TIME WHEN I

WALKED AWAY FROM PEOPLE

WHO ASKED ME JESUS.

I WOULD LITERALLY WALK

AWAY FROM IT THEN HAVE A

CONVERSATION ABOUT IT.

BUT IT IS ABOUT GOD BEING

FAITHFUL, DESPITE OUR

MISSES.

I LOOK AT MOMENTS LIKE

THAT WHEN I DENIED THE

GOSPEL OR DENIED STANDING

UP FOR WHAT'S RIGHT, AND

NOW I LOOK AT WHAT I DO

FOR A LIVING AND I GO,

GOD'S GOOD.

HE CAN USE ANYBODY.

Wendy: AND YOU CAME

HOME AND YOU HAD AN

ENCOUNTER WITH GOD THAT

YOU COULDN'T WALK AWAY

FROM?

NO.

I MADE A DECISION TO DO

ACTUALLY WHAT GOD SAID.

I THINK WHEN I WAS FACED

WITH THE DECISION OF, AM I

GOING TO MAKE THIS A REAL

LIFE CHANGE, I'VE GOT O TO

DTODO WHAT JESUS SAID, AND I

SO I STARTED DOING THAT.

Wendy: LET'S TALK

ABOUT JUSTIN BIEBER.

I LOVE HIS MUSIC.

WHAT'S YOUR FAVORITE

SONG.

SING IT.

Wendy: OH, NO.

WELL -- I CAN'T REMEMBER

ALL OF THE WORDS RIGHT

NOW.

IS IT TOO LATE.

Wendy: IS IT TOO

LATE --

THERE YOU GO.

Wendy: SORRY, JUSTIN.

WHAT IF HE'S WATCHING?

HE'S DEFINITELY NOT

WATCHING.

Wendy: THANK YOU.

HOW DID YOU WIND UP

BAPTIZING JUSTIN BIEBER IN

AN NBA PLAYER'S BATHTUB.

A LONG STORY.

FIRST OF ALL, IT IS ALL IN

A BOOK IN DETAIL.

I CAN TELL IT BETTER IN

WRITING, BECAUSE IT IS ONE

OF THOSE MOMENTS WHERE,

WHEN YOU LOOK BACK ON IT,

YOU GO, THAT TO ME IS

GOD'S GRACE.

HE GOES, I WANT TO GET

BAPTIZED.

AND I GO, LET'S DO IT.

AND HE WAS, LIKE, RIGHT

NOW.

AND WE COULDN'T FIND A

PLACE BECAUSE OF A MILLION

FACTORS.

WE ENDED UP IN A BUDDY OF

MINE'S APARTMENT.

A GIANT BATHTUB --

Wendy: I BET IT WAS A

BIG BATHTUB.

BECAUSE HE'S A BIG GUY.

AND IT'S NOT ABOUT WHERE

YOU GET BAPTIZED, BUT WHY.

Wendy: YOU RECEIVED

SOME HEAT RECENTLY -- YOU

WERE ON "THE VIEW" AND JOY JOY

BEHAR AND ASKED YOU IF

ABORTION WAS A SIN IN YOUR

CHURCH, AND YOU GOT SOME

HEAT FROM YOUR RESPONSE.

HOW ARE YOU RESPONDING TO

THAT BACKLASH?

I'M NOT REALLY.

I DIDN'T CONSIDER IT HEAT.

JUST BECAUSE PEOPLE MAKE

LITTLE NOISES ABOUT

SOMETHING YOU SAY, WE

DON'T ALWAYS HAVE TO GIVE

A RESPONSE.

BUT I WILL SAY IF SOMEBODY

WHO IS NOT A CHRISTIAN

ASKS ME ABOUT SIN, THE

LOGICAL QUESTION IS TO

FIRST ASK THEM, WHO IS

GOD.

BECAUSE IF GOD IS THE ONE

WHO SETS THE MARK FOR SIN

AND NOT SIN, AND YOU ASKED

ME ABOUT SIN, I HAVE TO

FIRST FIND OUT WHAT YOU

BELIEVE.

SO MY POINT IN THAT MOMENT

WAS NOT TO GIVE SOMEBODY

THE NO CONTEXT OF WHO

JESUS IT, OF WHAT SIN

IS -- WHY GIVE THEM AN

ANSWER WHICH THEY HAVE

ALREADY USED AGAINST

CHRISTIANS AND GIVE THAT

MORE FUEL.

SO FOR US, IT WAS COOL.

PEOPLE ARE GOING TO ALWAYS

HAVE THEIR OPINIONS ABOUT

WHAT WE SAY.

THE GOOD NEWS IS WE'RE

GOING TO BE HERE SAYING IT

AGAIN AND AGAIN.

SO WE'RE GOING TO GIVE

PEOPLE SOMETHING TO TALK

ABOUT.

Wendy: YOU DON'T

WATER DOWN THE GOSPEL.

I'VE HEARD YOU PREACH.

AND I READ YOUR BOOK.

I HAD A LONG TRIP TO

CANADA, AND I WAS SO GLAD

THAT THIS BOOK WAS SO GOOD

BECAUSE IT WAS A LONG TRIP

AND I KEPT READING AND

READING.

IT IS CALLED "OWNED

MOMENT."

AND WHAT DOES THAT REALLY

MEAN?

WE DON'T HAVE A LOT OF

CONTROL ABOUT A LOT IN

THIS LIFE.

BECAUSE IT IS NOT IN HUR OUR

HAND, SO TO SPEAK.

FOR THOSE WATCHING AND

THEY DON'T HAVE A JOB THEY

LOVE, GOD CAN USE YOU.

HE CAN USE YOU RIGHT WHERE

YOU ARE.

SILVER AND GOLD HAVE I

NONE, BUT WHAT I DO HAVE

WAS ENOUGH TO GET SOMEBODY

WALKING THEN, AND IT IS

ENOUGH TO GET SOMEBODY

RUNNING NOW.

Wendy: HERE I AM

INTERVIEWING JUSTIN'S

NUMBER ONE FAN, HIS

PASTOR, AND I'M ENJOYING

THIS.

THERE ARE SO MANY GREAT

STORIES IN THIS BOOK.

I GUESS WHAT MAYBE MY

BIGGEST SURPRISE WAS WAS

HOW HUMBLE YOU ARE AND YOU

SHARED YOUR INSECURITIES.

I'VE BEEN IN CHURCH

OFTEN ENOUGH TO KNOW YOU

PREACHERS ALWAYS TELL YOU

THEIR GOOD STORIES.

ONCE I FOUND OUT YOU CAN

USE YOUR FAILURES AS

LESSONS, I WAS, LIKE, I'VE

GOT MATERIAL FOR YEARS.

I THINK THAT'S WHY I ENJOY

BEING A PREACHER, NOT TO

BE SOMEBODY I'M NOT, BUT

TO ACTUALLY SHOW PEOPLE

WHO I AM, WHICH IS DEAD IN

THE WATER WITHOUT GOD'S

GRACE.

Wendy: YOU TALK ABOUT

BLACK LIVES MATTER IN YOUR

CHURCH.

WHAT WAS THE MESSAGE YOU

SHARED WITH YOUR

CONGREGATION --

BLACK LIVES MATTER,

PERIOD.

AND THE FACT THAT WE HAVE

TO QUALIFY IT AND JUSTIFY

IT, AND OFTEN WHITE PEOPLE

FEEL THE NEED TO ADD

SENTENCES TO IT WAS

ANNOYING.

I WAS GLAD I HAD A PULPIT

TO SAY, IF BLACK LIVES

MATTER, WE CAN SAY IT.

THE MOVEMENT DOESN'T OWN A

STATEMENT.

NIKE DOESN'T OWN THE

PHRASE, "JUST DO IT."

I CAN SAY THE PHRASE

WITHOUT BEING A NIKE

SPOKESPERSON.

IT IS OKAY TO SAY "BLACK

LIVES MATTER," AND IT

DOESN'T MEAN THAT OTHERS

DON'T.

Wendy: DO YOU THINK

YOU'RE HIGH-PROFILE AND

CELEBRITY FRIENDS MAKE IT

MORE OR LESS DIFFICULT FOR

YOU TO BE THE MAN THAT

JESUS CALLED YOU TO BE,

CARL?

I DON'T THINK IT IS ON

THE PEOPLE AROUND US TO

DICTATE HOW WE LIVE.

WHETHER WE KNOW FAMOUS

PEOPLE OR HOMELESS PEOPLE,

WE STILL HAVE TO BE WHO

GOD HAS CALLED US TO BE.

I DON'T CARE WHO MY

FRIENDS ARE, I FEEL LIKE

JESUS IS SO REAL TO ME.

AND IS CHANGING MY LIFE TO

THE POINT WHERE I HOPE I

GET A CHANCE TO TALK TO

ANYBODY BECAUSE I FEEL

LIKE YOU CAN MAKE A

DIFFERENCE IN THEIR LIVES

BECAUSE OF WHAT HE IS

DOING IN MINE.

I'M JUST EXCITING TO BE

BREATHING, TO BE HONEST

WITH YOU.

Wendy: THAT HAS BEEN

THE THEME OF OUR SHOW.

PAT AND I WERE TALKING

ABOUT --

IS PAT HERE?

Wendy: HERE IS HERE.

PAT, I LOVE YOU.

Wendy: WE ALSO HAVE A

SOCIAL EXCLUSIVE INTERVIEW

WITH CARL ON OUR

Facebook PAGE, JUST GO

TO Facebook.com/700club.

CARL, YOU ARE COOL, I'M

SORRY.

YOU ARE COOL, TOO.

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR

HAVING ME.

Wendy: COMING UP

NEXT, WE'VE GOT YOUR

E-MAILS.

EMILY SAID, "I WAS

DIAGNOSED WITH CANCER,

WHICH CAUSED ME TO BEHAVE

IRRATIONALLY AND

IMMORALLY, AND I CHEATED

ON MY HUSBAND.

I REPENTED, SO AM I STILL

Wendy: WELCOME BACK.

IT IS TIME FOR FO SOME OF

YOUR QUESTIONS.

EMILY WRITES, "IN EARLY

2013, I WAS DIAGNOSED WITH

CANCER, WHICH CAUSED ME TO

ACT VERY IMMORALLY.

BECAUSE I WAS VERY WEAK

EMOTIONALLY, I ENDED UP

CHEATING ON MY HUSBAND.

I FELT TERRIBLE

AFTERWARDS.

THE DOCTOR SAID MY ACTIONS

COULD HAVE BEEN A RESULT

OF MEDICATION I WAS

TAKING.

I EVENTUALLY REPENTED FOR

MY SINS, BUT IF I DIDN'T,

WOULD I HAVE GONE TO HELL,

EVEN THOUGH IT MAY HAVE

BEEN OUT OF MY CONTROL?"

Pat: I HATE TO BASE

IT ON HYPOTHETICAL, BUT

THAT'S WHAT IT IS.

THE ANSWER IS YOU REPENTED

AND YOU DIDN'T GO TO HELL

BECAUSE YOU WERE RIGHT

WITH THE LORD.

I HOPE YOUR HUSBAND AND

YOU GOT RIGHT.

BUT IF YOU ARE IRRATIONAL,

IF SOMEBODY DOESN'T KNOW

WHAT THEY'RE DOING, THEN

THEY CAN'T SIN.

THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS

A BABY THAT IS A SINNER

BECAUSE HE DOESN'T KNOW

WHAT HE IS DOING.

AND THE SAME THING WITH AN

IMBECILE, SOMEBODY WHO HAS

NO KNOWLEDGE.

IF YOU SAY YOU WERE OUT OF

CONTROL OF YOUR MIND --

THAT'S A HYP HYPOTHETICAL.

I CAN'T ANSWER IT BECAUSE

I DON'T KNOW ALL OF THE

FACTS.

WARMES Wendy: THIS ONE SAYS,

"PAT, I HAVE IN-LAWS THAT

ARE NOT CONVINCED THAT GOD

IS THE AUTHOR OF ALL OF

THE BOOKS OF THE BIBLE.

HOW CAN I CONVINCE THEM?"

Pat: IT IS APPOINTED

UNTO MAN ONCE TO DIE, AND

AFTER THAT THE JUDGMENT.

YOU THINK ABOUT THAT.

YOU SAY, IS THAT GOING TO

SPEAK TO YOUR HEART OR

NOT?

AND THEN THERE ARE SEEM

OTHER THINGS.

THE 23rd PSALM, AND

THERE ARE SO MANY PARTS OF

THE BIBLE THAT SPEAK TO

PEOPLE WHERE THEY ARE.

THAT VALIDATES THE BIBLE

MORE THAN ANYTHING ELSE,

THE IMPACT THAT IT HAS HAD

OVER THE CENTURIES.

AND IT'S LIKE SOMEBODY WAS

STANDING IN A MUSEUM,

LOOKING THE AT THE MONA

LISA, AND SAYING, I'M NOT

SURE ABOUT THAT.

AND THE CURATOR SAYS, YOU

KNOW, THESE PICTURES

AREN'T ON TRIAL.

YOU ARE ON TRIAL.

AND THE SAME THING WITH

THE BIBLE.

THE BIBLE IS NOT ON TRIAL.

YOU ARE ON TRIAL.

AND YOUR REACTION TO IT IS

WHAT'S IMPORTANT.

BUT THE BIBLE IS NO LONGER

ON TRIAL.

IT IS VALIDATED AS BEING

THE IMMORTAL, INTERNAL

WORD OF GOD.

THAT'S THE WAY IT IS.

Wendy: HERE IS ONE,

"DEAR PAT, I'VE BEEN IN

DISCUSSION WITH A FELLOW

BELIEVER, AND HE HAS

TROUBLE BELIEVER THAT WE

CAN PRAY IN TONGUES AND

ALSO SING IN TONGUES.

HE SAYS GOD'S WORD IS NOT

SPECIFIC ABOUT THAT, AND

HE WANTS TO STRICTLY

FOLLOW GOD'S WORD.

SO MY QUESTION IS: WOULD

SINGING IN THE SPIRIT BE

THE SAME AS SINGING IN

TONGUES.

AND IS SINGING AND PRAYING

IN TONGUES OKAY TO DO?"

Pat: ISN'T THAT WHAT

THE APOSTLE PAUL SAYS, I

WILL PRAY IN THE SPIRIT

AND SING IN THE SPIRIT?

LOOK AT CORINTHIANS.

IT IS PRAYING IN THE

SPIRIT.

AND, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN DO

IT IN SONG, AND YOU CAN DO

IT IN SPOKEN SPEECH.

I DON'T KNOW WHY IT IS A

BIG DEAL FOR ANYBODY.

Wendy: EVA SAYS, "I

HAVE A PROBLEM WITH MY

HUSBAND ABOUT DONATING TO

CHURCH.

I LIKE TO GIVE, BUT HE

DOESN'T.

I'M HAPPY TO HELP OTHERS,

AND I KEEP TELLING HIM,

THIS IS SO LITTLE COMPARED

TO WHAT GOD DOES FOR US.

BUT HE THINKS DIFFERENTLY.

SOMEONE TOLD ME I SHOULD

NOT GIVE WITHOUT MY

HUSBAND'S BLESSING.

IS THAT TRUE?"

Pat: IT IS A QUESTION

OF WHO'S MONEY IT IS.

IF IT IS YOUR MONEY, YOU

CAN GIVE ALL YOU WANT TO.

I THINK IT IS NICE IF

COUPLES AGREE ON THEIR

PHILANTHROPY BECAUSE YOU

DON'T WANT TO BE IN

REBELLION GIVING TO THE

LORD.

BUT IF IT IS HIS MONEY,

AND YOU'RE GIVING HIS

MONEY, THEN HE OUGHT TO

SAY OKAY.

YOU ARE RIGHT IN KNOWING

THAT AS YOU GIVE TO THOSE

WHO HAVE NEED, GOD WILL

BLESS YOU AND HE WILL

BLESS YOUR FINANCES.

GIVE AND IT WILL BE GIVEN

UNTO YOU, PRESSED DOWN,

GOOD MEASURE, RUNNING

OVER, WILL IT HEAP INTO

YOUR BOSOM.

> WE LEAVE YOU WITH

TODAY'S POWER MINUTE FROM

ISAIAH: "NO WEAPON FORMED

AGAINST YOU SHALL

PROSPER."

THIS IS THE HERITAGE OF

THE SERVANTS OF THE LORD.

> TOMORROW, LEARN WHAT

TOMORROW'S HEADLINE MEANS

FOR ISRAEL AND THE END

TIMES.

FOR WENDY AND ALL OF US,

THIS IS PAT ROBERTSON.

THANK YOU FOR BEING WITH

US.

AND WE WILL TALK TO YOU

TOMORROW.

BYE-BYE.

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