Rodney Howard-Browne is an
evangelist who came to America
from South Africa
in the mid '90s.
He heads Revival
Ministries International,
and in 1996, founded
The River, a Tampa Bay
church where he still pastors
with his wife Adonica.
Earlier this week he gathered
with other evangelical leaders
in the Oval Office to pray
for President Donald Trump,
and he joins us now
with more from Tampa.
Pastor Howard-Browne,
thanks for being with us.
Thanks for having me.
Well, tell us
about what was it
like to be in the Oval Office.
What was the atmosphere
that there like?
Well, it was very
surreal for me.
You know, we came to the country
December of 1987, my wife,
three children, five, three,
and seven months, for $300.
And then Revival
broke out in '89,
and we've been fighting
for America ever since.
So to suddenly be in the Oval
Office with the president,
it was very humbling
and very surreal.
REPORTER: Wow.
For such a time
as this, no doubt.
Well, what did you all talk
about with the president?
RODNEY HOWARD-BROWNE: Well,
you know, first of all,
we were in meetings
from 9:00 to 4:30.
So we'd been meeting
with different members
of the administration.
After lunch, the vice
president, Mike Pence, came in.
And he said, oh, I heard
that you were here,
and he said the president has
requested that you come down
to the Oval Office.
So we all followed down
from the executive building
into the West Wing.
And the president
immediately greeted us,
he wanted a photograph
taken with us,
and pastor Paula
White-Cain said,
Mr. President, we'd love to
pray with you before you go,
and he said I would love that.
So he just basically talked
about his speech in Warsaw
and different things that are
happening that he's facing.
So we probably spent
about 20 minutes,
and then Pastor Paula said,
OK, we're going to pray.
And so we laid hands on him.
That picture that you saw was
actually my ring on my hands,
and my wife's hands.
Now it's gone around the world.
People are calling us,
some people that knew,
they said, oh, those
are your hands.
But I actually took that
picture from behind,
standing behind the president.
And it was a very
humbling moment.
I prayed for him, I
prayed protection on him,
I prayed for
supernatural wisdom,
and I prayed against
the enemy that's
doing whatever they
can to undermine,
that if they dug a hole, they
would fall and hurt themselves.
REPORTER: This
prayer that happened,
this is happening in the midst
of a lot of negative media
attention over
Russia, as you know.
How does the president appear
to be handling the pressure
in this nonstop Russia mania?
Firstly, he's always
handled pressure.
You go back to his whole life,
it's been about that upheaval.
I think it energizes him.
He seemed totally relaxed.
He was very funny, and
he didn't act like he
was under the gun of anything.
And obviously the
media are going
to spin everything
the way they can.
In many instances they're not
really reporting the news.
They're reporting
a bias or agenda.
And I think the American
people see through all of it.
I think they just see
them as talking heads
and they're not
really interested.
People-- it was not
Russia that put President
Trump in the White House.
It was the American
people that put President
Trump in the White House.
And fortunately, we have
an electoral college
that gives each state equal
representation, otherwise
the three million
extra people that
voted in California would have
decided the fate of America.
So I see this as a
last-minute reprieve
for America and the church.
This is a time for the body of
Christ to rise as never before.
We have to get vocal.
It is crucial, it is so
crucial, in such an urgency.
Let me just say this.
On Monday when we
were there, was
the day of [INAUDIBLE]
of our meetings
at the DAR Constitution Hall.
We went in 2014, we went
in '15, we went in '16,
and then now we were
there now for seven days.
So I rented Constitution
Hall right by the White House
because that was the closest we
could get to the White House.
And I remember in 2014, we
stood for 15 nights, prayed
over America, issued
a restraining order,
told the devil you
can't have this country,
that God's going to
give us a miracle.
So I see President Trump
as an answer to prayer
to give America one
last opportunity.
I'm not speaking on
behalf of all the people
that were there that day.
I'm just talking as me, a
minister and a private citizen
of this great America.
I wanted to let you
know, we have to pray.
You could see the reaction
to some of the people
in the media saying how terrible
is that they laid hands on.
But one thing I felt
that the picture did,
it emphasized prayer and
it emphasized the laying
on of hands, which is
something that we believe in
from the Bible.
And that we should do exactly
what the scripture says.
REPORTER: Amen.
Well, thank you so
much for reminding us
of how important it is
to pray for our president
and our leaders for
such a time as this.
And we really appreciate you
coming on and talking to us
and sharing your experience
there in the Oval Office.
Pastor Rodney
Howard-Browne from Tampa,
thanks so much for joining us.
God bless you.
Keep up the good work.
Thank you.
God bless you.
Bye bye.