Colson Center CEO John Stonestreet discusses our culture shift and how to equip the next generation to thrive in it.
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Bob Dylan once sang, "the
times, they are a-changin'".
Of course, that was
more than 50 years ago,
and the times have certainly
changed since then.
What was once taboo has
made it into the mainstream.
And who knows what's going to
happen in another generation?
But as John
Stonestreet explains,
there's a way that we
can still stand strong.
John Stonestreet is the
co-host of Breaking Point,
a Christian radio show founded
by the late Chuck Colson.
He's also president
of the Colson Center
for Christian World View.
John says America's
views on issues
like gender
identity, technology,
and abortion are changing.
That means parents, pastors,
and mentors are faced
with a difficult challenge.
They must prepare
young Christians
to face a confusing world.
In his new book, A
Practical Guide to Culture,
he shares how we can
equip the next generation
to change the world,
even in uncertain times.
Well John Stonestreet
is here with us now.
And what a great book, "A
Practical Guide to Culture."
John, it's good
to have you here.
Thank you.
It's great to be on with you.
So that we're all on
the same terms here,
will you define culture?
Well that's one of the
most important questions
to start with, because culture
is one of those often used,
but rarely defined words.
Culture is what humans
do with the world.
Sometimes Christians
define culture
as all the bad stuff that's
out there, but that's not true.
It's also work and it's
business and so on.
But culture is the
force around us.
It shapes our thinking.
And it shapes our mind.
Shapes how we behave.
And parents know
that a lot of things
have changed in a
short amount of time.
And we also know
that we should
have the ability
to somehow impact
culture for our children.
But talk a little bit--
you say in the book
that there are
undercurrents in our culture
that we may not know about.
In the book we cover what
we call cultural waves.
These are the ones you feel.
We've all been on
this side of the ocean
and gotten knocked by a wave.
And talk about things like
same sex marriage or racism
or addiction.
These are the obvious things.
But we've also
had the experience
of being in the ocean
and finding ourselves
20 yards down the beach,
and what happened?
Yes
And it's the undercurrents.
And there's been a
lot of undercurrents
in our culture for the
last 20 or 40 years
that have created the cultural
waves that we now feel.
So as a parent, as a
mentor, as an educator,
if we're going to help the next
generation deal with the waves,
we need to understand the
undercurrents as well.
So what are some of
those undercurrents?
One of those is just the
fact that we live in what's
called the age of information.
When you and I were growing
up, if we had a question,
our parents would
say, go look it up.
And then--
And you had the
encyclopedias right there.
And that was an
authoritative source.
Today looking it up
means going to Google.
And Google is going to give us
whatever its algorithms say.
All this translates to the
fact that all the information
we have doesn't mean the
same thing as wisdom.
So navigating through
a maze of information
and trying to find
truth-- that's
one of the undercurrents.
Another one is what
interestingly enough,
Senator Ben Sasse wrote
about just recently,
which is perpetual adolescence.
Adolescence used to be
considered 13 to 18.
Today it's considered 11 to 30.
There's words for it
like Peter Pan Syndrome,
or my favorite is
failure to launch.
You have high-schoolers
that become
20-somethings that become
30-somethings, but don't
grow up.
They don't take
on responsibility.
They don't move out of
their parents' house.
One of the things is they delay
marriage longer and longer
and longer.
So that's another
undercurrent that we face.
And then there's a
number of other ones.
One is just the lack of virtue.
We now talk about values.
You have Republican
values or Democrat values,
conservative or liberal values.
And we need to have
our values straight.
But connecting what
we believe with how
we live-- the integrated life,
as C.S. Lewis talked about,
being a man with a chest,
is how we phrased it.
Having character-- the
character formation.
We have a lot of
solutions in life today
that are very easy, very
quick, very convenient,
but not the a long, hard
work of developing character.
Well, when you talk about
something like character,
I think that's where
parents get confused
because with the culture--
Has changed.
Swirling around us.
And the values changing.
And even the definition
of what is truth changing.
How do we impart
that to our children?
What do you speak to
parents in this day and age?
In the fourth
section of the book,
we spend a lot of
time on scripture.
I think the challenge
of every Christian
is to keep straight the
moment in the story.
We live in a cultural moment,
and there's a lot going on.
We have brothers and
sisters in Christ
around the world that
live in a cultural moment
where there is great persecution
and great oppression.
And yet the most true thing
about any cultural moment--
there's, ours, any generation of
Christians throughout history--
is what we find in the
story of scripture,
centered in the person of Jesus
Christ-- that Christ is risen.
So there's no possible
way to have an answer
to each and every
question, even knowing what
our kids are going to face.
But grounding them with a trust
in the authority of scripture,
helping them understand
that scripture is not just
a collection of
random moral mcnuggets
that we can take and
pick and choose from,
but it's this grand
story that gives us
the context of our
current cultural moment.
It gives us truth with a capital
T. No substitute for that,
if our kids are
going to survive.
That's the truth.
And then walking
it out ourselves.
I talk about parents and kids,
but really for us as adults
the ones who are
supposed to lead,
who are supposed to picture
all of this for kids,
how do we inoculate ourselves?
Certainly scripture is the
beginning and the basis
for all of that, but
what are some other ways
that we can be aware
of what we need
to do with regard to
values and culture?
We wanted this book
to be very practical,
and that included how do we
develop a Christian world
view ourselves so that we
can understand culture?
One of the easiest
ways--I won't say easy,
but one of the most helpful
ways is being very careful about
the definition of words.
Now that sounds strange,
but here's what I mean.
Sometimes in culture we'll
find ourselves-- sometimes
as parents with our kids,
we'll find ourselves also using
the same vocabulary but
not the same dictionary.
I once had a
conversation with a woman
on an airplane who told
me she was an atheist.
She said, how can
you believe in God?
And I asked a question,
what do you mean by God?
She said a grumpy
old man with a beard
in the sky who wants to strike
you with a lightning bolt.
I said, well I don't
believe in Zeus.
That's not the God.
And so starting with
that question, what
do you mean by that, we talk
about words like love and truth
and freedom and God and male and
female and marriage and family.
These are essential first
steps to making sure
that we have the
right dictionary
and understand the culture.
And as we do that as adults,
we can do that with our kids.
So it's not only that we do
it so that our kids can watch,
it's that we do it so that
we can walk with our kids
into the culture.
There's so much anger
today in our culture.
Some of that I think comes from
the fact that we are confused
and people are
frustrated and they don't
know how to change that up.
I just want to thank
you for the book.
It's an amazing
guide to all of that.
And there's so much that
we haven't touched on here.
This is a deep book.
You need to read it
and think about it
and then do something
with it in your life.
It's called "A Practical
Guide to Culture,
Helping the Next Generation
Navigate Today's World."
We can't help them if we
don't help ourselves first.
It's available in stores
nationwide, highly recommended.
John, thank you so much.
Thank you so much.
Lots of food to chew on there.