Wendy: TODAY...THE

PASTOR OF D.C.'S NATIONAL

COMMUNITY CHURCH AND THE

AUTHOR OF THE BEST-SELLER,

"THE CIRCLE-MAKER," MARK

PATTERSON OPENS UP THE

PAGES OF HIS NEW BOOK.

> AND THEN...AFTER 20

YEARS, THIS HUSBAND WAS

SENT PACKING.

IT WAS THE HARDEST

THING I EVER WENT THROUGH.

Wendy: FIND OUT WHAT

BROUGHT HIM BACK HOME.

IT IS A REALLY SWEET

PLACE, TO BE THIS CLOSE.

Wendy: ON TODAY'S

"700 CLUB."

*

Pat: WELL, WELCOME,

FOLKS, TO THIS EDITION OF

"THE 700 CLUB."

YOU KNOW, I HAVE A FRIEND

WHO IS IN CHARGE OF

"OPERATION BLESSING," BILL

HORAN.

AND HIS HOBBY IS TARGET

SHOOTING.

HE LOVES TO SHOOT.

AND SO HE SAID, WOULD YOU

LIKE TO JOIN US?

AND I SAID, YES, LET'S DO

IT.

I HAVEN'T SHOT A RIFLE IN

A LONG, LONG TIME.

WE WENT TO A SHOOTING

RANGE --

Terry: HOW DID YOU

DO?

Pat: WELL, I WANT TO

SHOW THE TARGET, IF YOU

GIVE ME A CLOSEUP.

THERE WERE FOUR SHOTS

INSIDE ONE ANOTHER, AND

THAT'S THE BULL'S EYE.

I HAD A COUPLE.

Terry: IF YOU FRAME

THIS, YOU COULD PUT A

LITTLE NAME ON IT THAT

SAYS, "DON'T MESS WITH

ME."

Pat: THEY HAD A NAME

OF A PARTICULAR LEADING

SENATOR, WHO I WILL NOT

IDENTIFY --

Terry: THAT THEY PUT

UP THERE?

Pat: THEY SAID,

THAT'S WHO YOU ARE

SHOOTING.

I USED TO HAVE OSAMA BIN

LADEN, AND I HIT HIM RIGHT

BETWEEN THE EYES.

BUT HE'S GONE.

I HAVEN'T SHOT A RIFLE IN

THE LONGEST TIME, AND I'VE

GOT A LITTLE BIT OF STUFF

LEFT.

Terry: I THINK YOU'VE

GOT A LOT OF STUFF LEFT.

Pat: THIS WAS ABOUT

50 YARDS, I THINK --

Terry: GO YOU.

WAS IT FUN?

Pat: OF COURSE IT IS

FUN, A LOT OF FUN.

I HAVE BURNISHED MY

CREDENTIALS WITH THE

N.R.A.

I MAY HAVE A LIFETIME

MEMBERSHIP.

Terry: YOU QUALIFY.

Pat: LISTEN, THE

GOVERNMENT GOT OUT OF

CONTROL WHEN THE HEAD MAN

IS BYPASSED, AND HIS

SECOND IN COMMAND RECUSES

HIMSELF, AND THE THIRD IN

COMMAND TAKES IT UPON

HIMSELF TO APPOINT A

FORMER HEAD OF THE F.B.I.

TO CONDUCT A PROBE OF HIS

BOSS.

THAT'S WHAT HAPPENED.

AND THERE IS NO EVIDENCE

WHATSOEVER THAT THE

RUSSIANS INVOLVED

THEMSELVES IN THE TRUMP

CAMPAIGN.

PEOPLE HAVE TRIED AND

TRIED AND TRIED, AND THEY

HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO GET

IT.

BUT YET WE HAVE NOW

COMMISSIONED A MAN, WHO

HAS, THEY SAY, IMPECCABLE

CREDENTIALS, AND WE'RE

GOING TO GIVE HIM AN

UNLIMITED BUDGET.

HE HAS A FISHING LICENSE

TO GO ANYWHERE HE WANTS

TO.

AND FOR THE NEXT THREE,

FOUR, FIVE YEARS, HE WILL

BE OUT THERE PROBING AND

HOLDING HEARINGS, AND

PROBING AND HOLDING

HEARINGS, AND YOU TELL ME

WE'RE GOING TO GET A TAX

CUT THROUGH?

NO WAY.

HEALTH CARE?

NO WAY.

BUILD STRUCTURE?

NO WAY.

IT IS GOING TO CRIPPLE THE

TRUMP PRESIDENCY UNLESS

GOD HIMSELF INDECES VENES.

INTERVENES.

AND THE MARKETS RESPONDED.

THE DOW WENT DOWN A

DRAMATIC AMOUNT YESTERDAY.

BUT IF THE DEMOCRATS

SUCCEED -- I WANT TO SAY

THIS AS CLEARLY AS

POSSIBLE -- WE'RE GOING TO

HAVE ONE OF THE MOST

HORRENDOUS FINANCIAL

CRISIS IN AMERICA.

WE'RE TEETERS ON THE BRINK

RIGHT NOW.

THIS WOULD BE ALL IT WOULD

TAKE TO SEND THE WHOLE

COUNTRY AND THE WORLD INTO

A TAIL SPIN FROM WHICH IT

WILL BE UNABLE TO RECOVER.

WE'RE TALKING ABOUT

PLAYING WITH FIRE.

IT IS LIKE A BUNCH OF KIDS

GOT SOME MATCHES AND

THEY'RE IN THE MIDDLE OF

AN OIL DEPOT AND THEY'RE

PLAYING WITH MATCHES.

AND THE KIDS ARE UP THAT

PLAYING.

THERE IS NOTHING THAT

TRUMP HAS DONE THAT

JUSTIFIES ALL OF THIS.

AND THERE HAS BEEN NO

CRIME THAT ANYBODY CAN

TELL ME.

AND YET WE HAVE

SOMEBODY -- AS THEY SAY,

IF YOUR ONLY WEAPON IS A

HAMMER, THEN EVERYTHING

LOOKS LIKE A NAIL.

THEY'RE GOING TO BANG AWAY

AND FIND SOMETHING.

UNLESS GOD HIMSELF

INTERVENES.

Terry: WELL, THE

ANNOUNCEMENT OF THAT

SPECIAL COUNSEL AND THE

INVESTIGATION CAME ON THE

EVE OF PRESIDENT TRUMP'S

FIRST MAJOR INTERNATIONAL

TRIP.

HE IS TRAVELLING TO THE

MIDDLE EAST AND EUROPE.

AND NOW THERE IS WORD THAT

THE PRESIDENT HAS RULED

OUT MOVING THE UNITED

STATES EMBASSY IN ISRAEL

TO JERUSALEM, FOR NOW AT

LEAST.

MAKERMARK MARTIN HAS THE STORY.

Mark: ROBERT

MUELLER'S APPOINTMENT WAS

MET WITH PRAISE FROM BOTH

SIDES OF THE AISLE.

OBVIOUSLY, THAT IS A

STEP IN THE RIGHT

DIRECTION.

TAKE THE POLITICS OUT

OF THIS, HOPEFULLY.

Mark: DEPUTY

ATTORNEY-GENERAL RO ROD

ROSENSTEIN SAYS HE WANTS

SOMETHING TO OVERSEE THE

RUSSIAN GOVERNMENT EFFORTS

TO INFLUENCE THE 2016

PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION AND

RELATED MATTERS.

MY DECISION IS NOT A

FINDING THAT CRIMES HAVE

COMMITTED OR ANY

PROSECUTION IS WARRANTED.

I HAVE MADE NO SUCH

DETERMINATION.

WHAT I HAVE DETERMINED IS

BASED UPON THE UNIQUE

CIRCUMSTANCES THE PUBLIC

INTEREST REQUIRES ME TO

PLACE THIS INVESTIGATION

UNDER THE AUTHORITY OF A

PERSON WHO EXERCISE A

DEGREE OF INDEPENDENCE

FROM THE NORMAL CHANGE OF

COMMAND."

IN A STATEMENT, MUELLER

SAID, "I ACCEPT THIS

RESPONSIBILITY AND WILL

DISCHARGE IT TO THE BEST

OF MY ABILITY."

WHATEVER INVESTIGATION

GOES ON, IT WILL HAVE THE

CREDIBILITY OF BOB MULLER.

Reporter: AND

PRESIDENT TRUMP ALSO

ISSUED A STATEMENT: "AS I

HAVE STATED MANY TIMES, A

THOROUGH INVESTIGATION

WILL CONFIRM WHAT WE

ALREADY KNOW: THERE WAS NO

COLLUSION BETWEEN MY

CAMPAIGN AND ANY FOREIGN

ENTITY.

I LOOK FORWARD TO THIS

MATTER CONCLUDING

QUICKLY."

DURING A WEDNESDAY

COMMENCEMENT ADDRESS TO

THE UNITED STATES COAST

GUARD, THE PRESIDENT

BLASTED THE MEDIA.

President Trump: LOOK

AT THE WAY I'VE BEEN

TREATED LATELY.

ESPECIALLY BY THE MEDIA.

NO POLITICIAN IN HISTORY

HAS BEEN TREATED WORSE OR

MORE UNFAIRLY.

Reporter: THE

APPOINTMENT OF A SPECIAL

COUNSEL COMES AS TRUMP IS

ABOUT TO EMBARK ON HIS

FIRST OVERSEAS TRIP AS

PRESIDENT, HEADING TO

SAUDI ARABIA, ISRAEL, AND

THE VATICAN.

AND AMID REPORTS THAT THE

PRESIDENT HAS DECIDED GENS

AGAINST MOVING THE U.S.

EMBASSY FROM TEL AVIV TO

JERUSALEM, AT LEAST FOR

NOW.

AND THE RUSSIAN

INVESTIGATION COULD REMAIN

IN THE INVESTIGATION FOR

SOME TIME TO COME.

MARK MARTIN, CBN NEWS.

Pat: OUR CBN NEWS

POLITICAL CORRESPONDENT

DAVID BRODY IS WITH US.

YOU'RE SET TO TAKE OFF

WITH TRUMP FOR HIS MIDDLE

EAST TRIP IN ANOTHER FEW

DAYS.

David: AS A MATTER

OF FACT, WE LEAVE LATER

TONIGHT, THURSDAY EVENING.

THAT WILL BE INTERESTING.

IT IS THE WORLD RELIGION

TOUR, PAT, SAUDI ARABIA,

JERUSALEM, ROME, AND THEN

WE'RE COMING BACK.

IT WILL BE VERY

INTERESTING, ESPECIALLY AS

WHAT IT RELATES TO WHAT

THE PRESIDENT IS GOING TO

SAY ABOUT ISLAM.

HE WILL SPEAK TO 50 LEADER

OF MUSLIM-MAJORITY

COUNTRIES.

AND STEVEN MILLER IS

WRITING THAT ISLAM SPEECH.

SO GET READY FOR SOME

POTENTIAL FIGHTING WORDS,

IF YOU WILL.

I KNOW HE HAS TO PLAY THE

PART WITH SAUDI ARABIA AS

A STRATEGIC PARTNER

FIGHTING TERRORISM.

BUT THERE WILL PROBABLY BE

SOME TOXIC LANGUAGE IN

THERE, I WOULD THINK.

Pat: I THINK THE

APPOINTING OF A SPECIAL

PROSECUTOR, OR COUNSEL,

THEY CALL HIM, IS A

TERRIBLE MISTAKE.

YOU'RE TAKING HIM OUT OF

THE CHAIN OF COMMAND AND

HE NO LONGER REPORTS TO

ANYBODY.

HE IS AN INDEPENDENT.

HE CAN DO ANYTHING HE

WANTS TO.

WHAT DO YOU HEAR UP THERE

IN WASHINGTON?

David: WELL, YOU

DON'T REALLY HEAR MUCH

TALK ABOUT BIPARTISAN,

ACCEPT WHEN IEXCEPT WHEN IT COMES TO

THIS.

YOU HAVE REPUBLICANS WHO

ARE THROWING TRUMP UNDER

THE BUS.

AND YOU HAVE DEMOCRATS WHO

ARE ALL GIDDY AT THE

NAMING AT THIS SPECIAL

COUNSEL.

IT IS SOMEWHAT BIPARTISAN

UP HERE.

THEY THINK MUELLER IS A

GUY WHO HAS DONE A SUPERB

JOB IN THE F.B.I. BEFORE.

THIS GUY IS A MARINE AND

HE IS FROM NEW YORK.

AND HE IS GOOD FRIENDS, BY

THE WAY, DOT, DOT, DOT,

WITH JAMES COMEY.

LET'S GO MARINATE ON THAT

FOR A LITTLE WHILE.

THIS IS NOT A GOOD

SITUATION FOR THE WHITE

HOUSE AT ALL.

AND THIS COULD GO ON FOR A

VERY LONG TIME.

MUELLER COULD ACTUALLY GO

AHEAD AND SUBPOENA DONALD

TRUMP'S TAX RETURNS.

THE POINT IS HE HAS WIDE

AUTHORITY HERE.

Pat: IN A SENSE, WHAT

CRIME HAS ANYBODY FOUND?

THEY HAVE LOOKED AND

LOOKED AND LOOKED, AND

NOBODY HAS FOUND ANY

RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN THE

TRUMP CAMPAIGN AND RUSSIA.

I DON'T UNDERSTAND THE,

QUOTE, "WE'RE GOING TO GET

TO THE BOTTOM OF IT," TO

WHAT?

David: REUTERS IS

OUT THIS MORNING SAYING

THERE ARE 18 NEW PHONE

CALLS BETWEEN THE TRUMP

CAMPAIGN AND THE RUSSIAN

OFFICIALS.

WELL, IF YOU READ IN THE

THIRD PARAGRAPH OF THAT

STORY, IT SAYS, OH, BY THE

WAY, DURING THOSE PHONE

CALL CONVERSATIONS, THERE

REALLY WASN'T ANYTHING

IMPROPER DONE.

SO THE POINT IS -- OF

COURSE, THAT'S NOT THE

HEADLINE.

SO ULTIMATELY, DONALD

TRUMP ACTUALLY COULD HAVE

A BIG UPSIDE HERE, BELIEVE

IT OR NOT, EVENTUALLY.

IF MUELLER COMES BACK AND

SAYS, LOOK, I CAN'T FILE

ANY CRIMINAL CHARGES HERE,

THEN DONALD TRUMP HAS

TAKEN ON THE D.C.

ESTABLISHMENT AND WON.

HE'LL GO DOWN AS A HERO

AND A VICTIM OF ALL OF

THIS.

IT ACTUALLY COULD CEMENT

HIS STATUS EVEN MORE, BUT

HE HAS TO GET THROUGH THE

NEXT -- WHO KNOWS HOW LONG

THIS IS GOING TO BE.

IT COULD BE A COUPLE OF

YEARS.

Pat: WHAT HAPPENS TO

THE AGENDA?

WHAT HAPPENS TO THE TAX

REFORM.

WHAT HAPPENS TO OBAMACARE

REFORM?

DOES IT GOING TO LIMBO, DO

YOU THINK?

David: I THINK LIMBO

IS A GOOD WORD FOR IT.

IT MIGHT BE A KIND WORD

FOR IT.

IT IS HARD TO WALK AND

CHEW GUM UP HERE AT THE

SAME TIME.

NOW YOU'RE GOING TO ADD

ALL OF THESE SUBPOENAS AND

CONGRESSIONAL HEARINGS AND

ALL OF THIS THAT IS GOING

TO COME WITH THE SPECIAL

COUNSEL, AND IT IS GOING

TO BE VERY, VERY

DIFFICULT.

HAVING SAID THAT, THEY'RE

GOING TO MOVE FORWARD.

AND THE QUESTION THEN

BECOMES, IF THEY CAN GET

TAX REFORM DONE, WHICH

THEY BELIEVE THEY CAN GET

SOMETHING DONE BY THE END

OF THE YEAR -- HEALTH

CARE, WE'RE NOT QUITE SURE

HOW THA IT IS GOING TO WORK

IN THE SENATE, MAYBE

SOMETHING BY LABOR DAY,

BUT IF ONE OF THOSE

LEGISLATIVE

ACCOMPLISHMENTS COMES

THROUGH, IT BECOMES A NEW

DAY FOR DONALD TRUMP.

HE NEEDS THAT AT THIS

POINT, PAT.

THE DEGREE OF DIFFICULTY

HAS BECOME MUCH MORE

HARDER AT THIS POINT.

Pat: THERE IS TALK

ABOUT SHOUTING IN THE

WHITE HOUSE BETWEEN THE

VARIOUS PRESS TYPES.

SOME TALK ABOUT REPLACING

SEAN SPICER.

WHAT DO YOU HEAR ABOUT

THAT?

David: THERE IS SOME

OF THAT.

I DON'T THINK THERE IS ANY

QUESTION ABOUT IT.

BECAUSE DONALD TRUMP IS

TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT

EXACTLY TO DO, NOT JUST

WITH THE COMMUNICATIONS

STAFF, BUT IN TERMS OF A

STAFF SHAKEUP.

HERE IS PART OF THE

PROBLEM, PAT: HE IS A VERY

LOYAL GUY, AND POTENTIALLY

EVEN TO A FAULT.

TO WHERE HE WANTS TO KEEP

FOLKS ON A LITTLE LONGER

THAN MAYBE THEY SHOULD BE

THERE.

I'LL BE QUITE FRANK WITH

YOU.

I THINK THAT IS THE LEAST

OF THIS PRESIDENT'S

WORRIES RIGHT NOW, THE

COMMUNICATIONS STAFF.

HERE IS THE CRUX OF THE

ISSUE AS IT RELATES TO

DONALD TRUMP: THE

FREE-WHEELING DONALD TRUMP

WHEN HE WAS CANDIDATE WAS

WONDERFUL.

HE PLAYED GREAT.

HE WAS THE OUTSIDER.

BUT A FREE WHEELING

PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED

STATES IS A DIFFERENT

MATTER.

AND WHEN YOU'RE SLAPPING

GUYS ON THE BACK AND

SAYING, HEY, LET'S TALK

ABOUT SOME INFORMATION I

HEARD ABOUT ISIS TO

RUSSIAN OFFICIALS IN THE

OVAL OFFICE.

TRUMP IS OPERATING LIKE

THIS IS A BOARD ROOM.

THE PROBLEM IS THERE ARE

PEOPLE OUT TO GET HIM.

THERE IS PEOPLE INSIDE THE

WHITE HOUSE, INTELLIGENCE

FOLKS, THE MEDIA.

THAT'S A BAD TRINITY, IF

YOU WILL, PAT.

IT IS ONE THING TO TAKE ON

THE MEDIA, BUT HE HAS GOT

TO TAKE ON PEOPLE ACTUALLY

WITHIN THE WHITE HOUSE,

BELIEVE IT OR NOT, AND THE

INTELLIGENCE COMMUNITY.

NOT GOOD.

Pat: DAVID, YOU'VE

GOT A FUN TRIP AHEAD OF

YOU.

ARE YOU GOING TO BE

EMBARGOED?

CAN YOU TELL US STUFF AS

YOU GO DOWN THE LINE?

David: WELL, WE HAVE

THAT TRIP GOING TO SAUDI

ARABIA, JERUSALEM, AND

ROME, AND WE'LL START

REPORTING ON "THE 700

CLUB" NEXT WEEK.

BUT LATER THIS AFTERNOON,

I'M AT THIS NETWORK ANCHOR

LUNCHEON, SCOTT PELLEY AND

LESTER HOLESTER HOLT AND YOURS

TRULY.

AND IT IS OFF THE RECORD

WITH THE PRESIDENT OF THE

UNITED STATES AND SOME OF

THE SENIOR OFFICIALS AT

THE WHITE HOUSE, BUT OFF

THE RECORD WILL QUICKLY

TURN INTO A LOT OF LEAKS

OF WHAT THE PRESIDENT IS

PROBABLY GOING TO STAY.

I WOULD EXPECT A FEW

STORIES LATER THIS

AFTERNOON.

Pat: DAVE, THANKS SO

MUCH.

STAY WITH IT.

David: YOU BET.

Pat: AND WE JUST

HEARD THAT ROGER AILES

DIED THIS MORNING.

HIS WIFE SAID IN A

STATEMENT ON THE DRUDGE

REPORT THAT HE WAS A

LOVING HUSBAND, A PATRIOT,

AND A LOYAL FRIEND.

YOU KNOW, IT'S A SHAME --

HE WAS A MEDIA GENIUS, BUT

UNFORTUNATELY HIS

PROCLIVITY FOR LIKING

BEAUTIFUL YOUNG WOMEN DID

HIM IN.

AND I'M SORRY TO SEE -- I

LIKE FOX NEWS, BUT IT

LOOKS LIKE THEY'RE REALLY

LOSING OUT.

THEY'RE LOSING OUT TO

MSNBC, AND THERE IS JUST

TURMOIL IN THAT NETWORK.

AND IT WAS SO PROFITABLE.

THEY WERE BILLING ABOUT A

BILLION AND A HALF DOLLARS

A YEAR, AND FOR A CABLE

NETWORK, THAT'S

UNBELIEVABLE.

AND THEY JUST EASED OUT,

ONE AFTER THE OTHER.

AND ROGER AILES WAS A

GENIUS.

AND I'M SURE THOSE WHO

LOVE GOOD TELEVISION WILL

MOURN HIS PASSING.

I DIDN'T KNOW HIM

PERSONALLY.

I'VE SAID HI TO HIM, BUT

THAT WAS ABOUT IT.

Terry: WAS THAT

UNEXPECTED?

Pat: WELL, YOU LOOK

AT SOMEBODY, AND THEY'RE A

HEART ATTACK WAITING TO

HAPPEN.

OVERWEIGHT, NO EXERCISE,

THE WHOLE THING, STRESS --

A LOT OF STRESS.

AND THAT'S A KILLER.

AND THAT'S WHAT HAPPENS.

Terry: COMING UP,

IT'S A BOND THAT WAS

FORGED BY FIRE.

HEAR HOW THE SIX-DAY WAR

LED TO AN ALLIANCE BETWEEN

AMERICA AND ISRAEL, AND

WHY SOME OLD ENEMIES ARE

THREATENING IT TO THIS

DAY.

DAY.

Pat: IN THE 50 YEARS

SINCE THE SIX-DAY WAR IN

THE MIDDLE EAST, THE WORLD

HAS SEEN THE FALL OF THE

IRON CURTAIN AND THE RISE

OF RADICAL ISLAMIC

TERRORISM.

BUT THROUGH IT ALL, AT

LEAST ONE ALLIANCE HAS

THRIVED, AND THAT IS THE

U.S. AND ISRAEL.

JOHN WAGGI EXPLAINS.

Reporter: AFTER THE

TENSION OF THE OBAMA

YEARS, DONALD TRUMP'S

ELECTION OPENED A NEW

CHAPTER IN U.S. RELATIONS

WITH ISRAEL.

FROM THE CAMPAIGN THROUGH

HIS INAUGURATION, TRUMP

SOUNDED A CALL FOR U.S.'

SUPPORT FOR ISRAEL.

THE FOUNDATION OF THE

U.S.-ISRAEL ALLIANCE BEGAN

IN THE SIX-DAY WAR.

AFTER ISRAEL TOOK BACK ITS

BIBLICAL HEARTLAND,

INCLUDING JERUSALEM IN

1967, THE WHOLE WORLD TOOK

NOTICE.

ISRAEL'S FRIENDS AND

MILLIONS OF AMERICANS

REJOICED.

BUT ISRAEL'S ENEMIES BEGAN

TO CALL THE U.S. THE BIG

SATAN AND ISRAEL THE

LITTLE SATAN.

WHEN ISRAEL WON THE

SIX-DAY WAR, IT WAS HUGE.

BECAUSE YOU WENT FROM

ANTICIPATING DISASTER --

IT WASN'T THAT LONG AFTER

THE HOLOCAUST.

AND PERHAPS ANOTHER

MASSACRE OF THE JEWISH

PEOPLE TO AN INCREDIBLE

VICTORY.

Reporter: AMBASSADOR

DORY GOLD IS THE FORMER

DIRECTOR OF ISRAEL'S

FOREIGN MINISTRY.

I REMIND YOU IN GLOBAL

TERMS, THE U.S. HAD BEEN

BOGGED DOWN IN VIETNAM,

TRYING TO CONTAIN THE

SPREAD OF SOVIET POWER IN

THE FAR EAST.

AND HERE ALL OF A SUDDEN

ISRAEL STANDS FIRM.

AND NOT ONLY DEFEATS ITS

ARAB NEIGHBORS BUT

DEFEASTS CLIENTS OF THE

SOVIET UNION WHO ARE USING

SOVIET WEAPONRY.

SO IT WAS A VICTORY FOR

ISRAEL.

IT WAS SURVIVAL OF THE

JEWISH PEOPLE.

AND IT WAS AN ENORMOUS

VICTORY FOR THE WEST.

Reporter: MIDDLE EAST

EXPECT JOEL C. ROSENBERG

SAYS ISRAEL'S DEFEAT OF

THE SOVIET PROXIS WOKE UP

THE WHITE HOUSE UNDER

PRESIDENT LYNDON B.

JOHNSON.

SUDDENLY THIS LITTLE

SCAP PESCRAPPY ISRAEL WAS SEEN AS

AN OUTPOST, A FRONTAL

FORWARD POSITION OF

WESTERN DEMOCRACY, THAT

HAD THE CAPACITY TO DEFEAT

SOVIET MIGS,

SOVIET-TRAINED SOLDIERS.

SUDDENLY THE UNITED STATES

THOUGHT, MAYBE ISRAEL IS

MORE IMPORTANT THAN WE

THOUGHT, GEOPOLITICALLY,

AND IT WAS QUITE GAL

GALVANIZING TO WHAT BECAME

THE MOST IMPORTANT

ALLIANCE IN THE HISTORY OF

THE 20th CENTURY, THE

ALLIANCE BETWEEN THE

UNITED STATES AND ISRAEL.

Reporter: PRESIDENT

JOHNSON TOLD THE RUSSIANS

NO WHEN THEY CALLED FOR

ISRAEL TO GIVE UP ALL OF

THE TERRITORY RECAPTURED

IN THE WAR.

JOHNSON MADE CLEAR THAT

ISRAEL WOULD HAVE SECURE

AND RECOGNIZED BOUNDARIES,

A POLICY EXPANDED BY

PRESIDENTS REAGAN AND

BUSH.

AND THAT BECAME THE

BASIS OF AMERICAN

DIPLOMACY FOR DECADES.

AND ONLY RECENTLY SOME

PEOPLE TALK ABOUT A FULL

ISRAELI WITHDRAWAL.

THAT WOULD BE CONTRARY TO

ISRAEL'S NATIONAL SECURITY

TODAY, AND IT CERTAINLY

WAS CONTRARY TO ISRAEL'S

NATIONAL SECURITY BACK

THEN.

Reporter: IN THE HALF

CENTURY SINCE THE WAR,

ISRAEL HAS BECOME A

MILITARY POWER AS THREATS

AROUND IT HAVE ALSO GROWN.

IRAN PURSUES NUCLEAR

AMBITIONS WHILE CALLING

FOR ISRAEL'S DESTRUCTION.

IT'S TERROR ARM IN

LEBANON, HEZBOLLAH, HAS

MORE THAN 100,000 MISSILES

POISED ON ISRAEL'S NORTH.

AND THE OLD BEAR, RUSSIA,

IS BACK IN THE REGION,

LOOKING FOR A FOOT HOLD.

GOLD WARNS IRAN'S TIES TO

NUCLEAR NORTH KOREA AND

THE MEXICAN DRUG CARTELS

PUT THE THREAT ON THE U.S.

DOORSTEP.

THE ENTIRE IRANIAN

BALLISTIC MISSILE PROGRAM

TO A LARGE EXTENT IS

CONNECTED WITH NORTH

KOREA'S BALLISTIC MISSILE

PROGRAM.

BOTH OF US HAVE AN

INTEREST THAT IT BE

STOPPED.

Reporter: AS EUROPE

BECOMES MORE MUSLIM, THE

WHOLE IDEA OF WESTERN

CIVILIZATION IS SHIFTING.

ROSENBERG BELIEVES THE

CHANGES COULD MEAN MORE

FULFILLMENT OF BIBLICAL

PROPHECY IN THE MIDDLE

EAST.

ONE OF THE WORST CASE WORST-CASE

SCENARIOS IN ISRAEL, IF IT

IS IRAN, YOU'LL HAVE A

GENOCIDAL BUREAUCRACY JUST

OVER THE BORDER.

IF THE RUSSIANS ASK THE

IRANIANS TO LEAVE, YOU

STILL HAVE RUSSIA, A

NUCLEAR-ARMED POWER RIGHT

ON ISRAEL'S BORDER, AND

ACCORDING TO BIBLE

PROPHECY, EZEKIEL 38 AND

39, WE KNOW RUSSIAN AND

IRAN WILL FORM AN ALLIANCE

AGAINST ISRAEL AND WILL

COME AGAINST ISRAEL FROM

THE NORTH IN THE END

TIMES.

I'M NOT SAYING WE'RE THERE

YET, BUT THE TREND LINE

CONTINUES TO BE CONSISTENT

WITH THE PREPARATION FOR

THOSE GOG AND MAGOG

PROPHECIES.

Reporter: JOHN WAGGI,

CBN NEWS, JERUSALEM.

Pat: YOU READ THE

NEWSPAPERS AND YOU READ

YOUR BIBLE, AND IT IS

HAPPENING.

IT IS PLAYING OUT BECAUSE

THE UNITED STATES IS THE

GREAT POWER, AND I WANT TO

URGE OUR VIEWERS PRAY

RIGHT NOW BECAUSE THERE IS

AN ATTACK BEING MADE TO

DESTROY AMERICA AND TO

DESTROY ISRAEL.

AND WE HAVE TO RECOGNIZE

THAT WE'RE DEALING WITH

SPIRITUAL FORCES, MAJOR,

MAJOR FORCES THAT WANT TO

TAKE AWAY THE FREEDOM WE

HAVE AND TAKE AWAY THE

FREEDOM THE ISRAELIS HAVE

AND PUT IN SOME KIND OF

A -- I DON'T KNOW --

ISLAMIC, SHAR'IA STATE, OR

WHATEVER IS COMING, BUT IT

IS NOT PLEASANT.

SO I WOULD LIKE US TO PRAY

RIGHT NOW.

AND TERRY AND I ARE GOING

TO JOIN HANDS AT THIS

MOMENT.

FATHER, WE PRAY -- YOU

SAID TO PRAY FOR THE PEACE

OF JERUSALEM.

AND WE PRAY, INDEED, FOR

THE PEACE OF JERUSALEM.

BUT WE PRAY FOR THIS

NATION OF OURS.

AND WE ASK, LORD, THAT YOU

MAY RAISE A STANDARD WHEN

THE ENEMY COMES IN LIKE A

FLOOD, THE LORD WILL RAISE

A STANDARD AGAINST HIM.

AND WE ASK THAT YOU MIGHT

LIFT UP THE STANDARD AND

PUT YOUR ENEMIES TO SHAME.

PUT THE ENEMIES OF FREEDOM

AND RIGHTEOUSNESS AND

JUSTICE TO SHAME, IN THE

NAME OF JESUS.

THANK YOU, LORD.

AMEN.

Terry: AMEN.

Pat: WELL, WE'VE GOT

A MOVIE COMING UP, I

THINK, IN ANOTHER FEW

DAYS.

Terry: WE SURE DO.

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> UP NEXT, THEY HAD A

PICTURE-PERFECT ROMANCE,

BUT AFTER TWO DECADES,

THAT ROMANCE STARTED TO

CRACK.

I KNEW THERE WAS A

DIVIDE BETWEEN US, BUT I

NEVER DREMPT THERE WAS

ANYONE ELSE COMING INTO

THE PICTURE.

Terry: BUT THERE

WASN'T ONE PERSON COMING

INTO THAT PICTURE, THERE

WERE FOUR.

FIND OUT WHAT THIS WIFE

DID WHEN SHE FOUND OUT.

THAT'S NEXT.

Wendy: STILL AHEAD,

BEST-SELLING AUTHOR MARK

PATTERSON DECLARES HIS

MANTRA FOR MANHOOD.

HE JOINS US LIVE COMING

UP.

*

Pat: CHRIS AND

CHOLINCOLLEEN McCAIN GREW UP

ON THE SAME STREET.

THEY DATED, THEY MARRIED,

AND THEN THEY STARTED A

FAMILY.

BUT AFTER DECADES

TOGETHER, THIS INSEPARABLE

COUPLE BEGAN TO DRIFT

APART.

AND IN CHRIS' CASE, HE

WOUND UP IN THE ARMS OF

MAYBE NOT ONE, BUT THREE

OR FOUR WOMEN.

WE KNEW EACH OTHER FOR

SO MANY YEARS AS GREAT

FRIENDS.

WE SPENT A LOT OF TIME

TOGETHER GROWING UP.

AND WE BEGAN TO DATE AND

THEN WE GOT MARRIED, AND

THAT FRIENDSHIP CONTINUED.

AND WE JUST LOVED DOING

THINGS WITH EACH OTHER.

WE PREFERRED ONE ANOTHER.

WE HARDLY EVER FOUGHT.

Reporter: CHRIS

McCAIN AND HIS WIFE,

COLLEEN, WERE HIGH SCHOOL

SWEETHEARTS.

AFTER 20 YEARS, THEIR

PICTURE-PERFECT MARRIAGE

BEGAN TO FALL APART AFTER

THEY EXPERIENCED A SERIES

OF LOSSES.

CHRIS HAD SOME JOB

CHANGES.

MY FATHER DIED AND HIS

MOTHER DIED AND OUR

CHILDREN STARTED MOVING

OUT OF THE HOUSE.

IT REALLY CHANGED THE

DYNAMICS AND THE WAY WE

WERE RELATING TO EACH

OTHER, TOO.

A LOT OF THINGS IN MY

LIFE THAT I HAD CONTROL OF

WERE SLIPPING AWAY.

I HAD NOTICED A CHANGE IN

MY HEART, AS IT WAS

HAPPENING, THAT MY HEART

WAS GETTING HARD.

WE BEGAN TO HAVE ARGUMENTS

NOW, WE BEGAN TO FIGHT,

AND WE WEREN'T USED TO

THAT.

AND WE DIDN'T KNOW HOW TO

FIGHT.

HE AND I BOTH HAD

ALWAYS WANTED TO KEEP

CHRIST IN THE CENTER OF

OUR MARRIAGE.

AND DURING THAT TIME, I

KNEW THAT THERE WAS A

DIVIDE BETWEEN US, BUT I

REALLY NEVER DREMPT THAT

THERE WAS ANYONE ELSE THAT

WAS COMING INTO THE

PICTURE.

Reporter: BUT SOMEONE

DID.

CHRIS HAD BEGUN AN AFFAIR

THAT LASTED SEVERAL

MONTHS.

WHAT STARTED OUT AS

INNOCENT, WHICH WAS

COMPLETELY WRONG,

DEVELOPED INTO MORE.

AND JUST HAVING SOMEONE

LISTEN TO ME AND

UNDERSTAND ME, RATHER THAN

SOMEONE WHO WAS FIGHTING

WITH ME --

Reporter: ASHAMED OF

WHAT HE HAD DONE, CHRIS

CONFESSED TO COLLEEN.

I REALLY WAS SHOCKED

THAT THAT WAS HAPPENING.

BUT THEN HE CONFESSED.

HE SAID IT WAS OVER.

LET'S MOVE FORWARD.

THOUGH THERE WAS A LOT OF

PAIN AND A LOT OF BACK AND

FORTH FOR QUITE SOME TIME,

OF TRYING TO GET THROUGH

THAT, WE JUST SORT OF MADE

A DECISION THAT WE DID

WANT TO STAY TOGETHER.

Reporter: THE

McCAINS DECIDED NOT TO

TELL ANYONE OR SEEK OUT

HELP AFTER CHRIS' AFFAIR.

BASICALLY OUR PRIDE

PREVENTED US FROM WANTING

TO ADMIT TO ANYONE, YOU

KNOW, WE'VE HAD THIS

STORYBOOK MARRIAGE FOR SO

LONG, AND EVERYONE THOUGHT

WE WERE THE POSTER

CHILDREN OF MARRIAGE.

AND TO CONFESS THAT OUR

MARRIAGE WAS TERRIBLE, OUR

PRIDE WOULDN'T ALLOW US TO

DO THAT, TO REACH OUT.

Reporter: THEY STAYED

TOGETHER, BUT CHRIS' HEART

REMAINED UNCHANGED.

A HARD HEART IS FERTILE

GROUND FOR SATAN.

I HAD BEEN COMPLETELY

TAKEN OVER WITH BEING

SELF-ABSORBED AND PLEASING

SELF.

THIS NEEDING TO BE IN

CONTROL OF MY SITUATIONS

BECAUSE THAT'S THE WAY I

HAD ALWAYS BEEN.

I I WASN'T GOING TO BE

CONTROLLED BY MY WIFE AND

I DIDN'T WANT THE LORD TO

BE TELLING ME WHAT TO DO.

Reporter: FOUR YEARS

LATER, CHRIS AND COLLEEN

MET WITH THEIR PASTOR ONE

SUNDAY AFTER CHURCH.

THERE CHRIS CONFESSED TO

MORE AFFAIRS.

I LET OUT A LOT OF

ANGER.

AND MY MIND AND IN MY

HEART, AT THIS POINT I'M

DONE.

AFTER I CONFESSED TO MY

CHILDREN AND THEY WATCHED

ME PACK MY BAGS AND WALK

OUT OF THE HOUSE, THAT WAS

THE HARDEST THING I'D EVER

BEEN THROUGH.

THAT WAS WHEN I BECAME

COMPLETELY BROKEN.

Reporter: CHRIS MOVED

INTO A HOTEL, AND FOR THE

FIRST TIME IN YEARS BEGAN

TO SEEK THE LORD.

HE STUDIED THE WORD,

FASTED AND PRAYED, AND

INVITED OTHER MEN TO PRAY

WITH HIM.

THE PREVIOUS TIMES THAT

WE HAD DEALT WITH MY

AFFAIRS, I HAD CONFESSED.

I DON'T KNOW THAT I HAD

TRULY REPENTED.

WHEN I CONFESSED AFTER THE

FOURTH ONE, THAT WAS WHEN

EVERYTHING -- THAT WAS

WHEN I CAME CLEAN ON

EVERYTHING AND WAS NOT

TRYING TO BE DECEITFUL OR

HIDE ANYTHING ANYMORE

AFTER THAT.

Reporter: COLLEEN

BEGAN TO SEE CHANGES IN

CHRIS, AND RECEIVED

ENCOURAGEMENT FROM

SCRIPTURE.

THERE WAS ONE MORNING,

A SUNDAY MORNING, I WAS

READING MY BIBLE, AND THE

LORD SHOWED ME A VERSE, IN

SAMUEL, AND IT SAID, WATCH

AND SEE WHAT THE LORD IS

GOING TO DO.

WATCH AND SEE THIS GREAT

THING I'M ABOUT TO DO

BEFORE YOUR EYES.

UP UNTIL THAT TIME, I HAD

STARTED GIVING UP ON OUR

MARRIAGE.

Reporter: DURING

THEIR MARRIAGE, CHRIS

SELDOM WORE A WEDDING RING

BECAUSE OF HIS WORK.

HE TOLD COLLEEN, THE LORD

IMPRESSED UPON HIM TO BUY

A NEW RING.

WHEN HE GOT A RING, I

KNEW SOMETHING WAS

HAPPENING.

THIS WAS PROBABLY THE

FIRST THING GOD WAS

SHOWING ME, WATCH AND SEE

THESE GREAT THINGS I'M

ABOUT TO DO BEFORE YOUR

EYES.

BECAUSE THE RING WAS

SOMETHING THAT BOTHERED

ME, AND I HADN'T TOLD HIM.

I KNEW THAT SOMETHING WAS

GOING ON.

AND I TEXTED BACK, AND I

SAID, YOU'RE WALKING BACK

TO ME.

BECAUSE I KNEW THAT GOD

WAS IN IT.

AND IF GOD WAS IN IT, AND

I CAN TRUST GOD, THEN I

WAS ALL ON BOARD.

Reporter: THE

McCAINS SPENT MONTHS IN

COUNSELLING, AND GOD BEGAN

TO HEAL THEIR MARRIAGE.

IT HAS BEEN FIVE YEARS

SINCE THEY REUNITED, AND

THEY SAY THEIR MARRIAGE IS

STRONGER THAN EVER.

ONE OF THE THINGS THE

LORD HAD CHANGED IN ME WAS

BEING WILLING TO GIVE UP

CONTROL AND TO PREFER MY

WIFE AND MY FAMILY AND TO

PUT THE LORD FIRST, RATHER

THAN FOR ME TO CONTROL ALL

OF THAT, BECAUSE HIS WAYS

ARE BETTER THAN MINE.

HE HAS BLESSED US IN

SUCH A TREMENDOUS WAY.

THAT NOW I HAVE A BRAND

NEW HUSBAND.

I DIDN'T HAVE TO GET

MARRIED AGAIN TO HAVE A

NEW HUSBAND BECAUSE GOD

CHANGED HIM COMPLETELY

FROM THE INSIDE OUT.

AND WE JUST SHARE SO MUCH

MORE FREELY, SO MUCH MORE

DEEPLY.

IT IS A REALLY SWEET

PLACE, TO BE THIS CLOSE.

OUR MARRIAGE TODAY IS

INCREDIBLE.

WHEN SOMEONE SHOWS YOU AS

MUCH GRACE AS COLLEEN HAS

SHOWED ME, MY LOVE FOR HER

IS EXPEDENTIAL.

WHEN YOU EXPERIENCE GOD'S

GRACE IN THE WAY THAT WE

DID, HE IS THE ONE THAT

HAS MADE OUR MARRIAGE

GREAT, NOT US.

ALL WE'VE DONE IS JUST

SELL OUT TO HIM AND GIVE

HIM OUR MARRIAGE AND OUR

FAMILY AND OUR HOME.

AND SAID, LORD, YOU JUST

TAKE OUR MARRIAGE AND DO

WITH IT WHAT YOU NEED TO

DO.

Pat: NO SECRETS.

THEY KNOW NOW WHO THEY

ARE.

THEY KNOW WHAT HE HAS

DONE.

THEY KNOW WHAT TEMPTATIONS

HE'S ENCOUNTERED.

AND HAVING FORGIVEN ALL OF

THAT, THEY'RE STRONGER

THAN EVERY BECAUSE THERE

ARE NO LIES SEPARATING

THEM.

THAT'S THE THING THAT

ARISES IN SO MANY

MARRIAGES: YOU'RE KEEPING

SOMETHING FROM YOUR

SPOUSE, THE STUFF YOU LONG

FOR OR ARE DOING,

SOMETHING THAT YOU HAVE

DONE.

YOU DON'T NECESSARILY HAVE

TO HAVE A BIG CONFESSION

SEASON, BUT THERE NEEDS TO

BE SOMETHING THAT CLEARS

THE AIR.

AND IN THE CASE OF CHRIS

AND COLLEEN, THEY CLEARED

THE AIR, BUT IT WAS TOUGH.

OVER THE YEARS -- IT

DIDN'T HAPPEN OVERNIGHT.

ALL OF THE TEMPTATION THAT

HE HAD HAD, AND THE CHANGE

IN HIM.

IT WASN'T A QUESTION THAT

HE HAD A ONE-NIGHT STAND

WITH ONE BIMBO, BUT HE HAD

A DEEP-SEATED NEED TO BE

FREE, TO BE INDEPENDENT.

AND HE HAD TO SURRENDER

THAT TO THE LORD.

AND COLLEEN HAD TO FORGIVE

WHAT SHE PERCEIVED AS A

SLIGHT AGAINST HER.

YOU KNOW, THE WOMAN WOULD

SAY, LOOK WHAT HE DID TO

ME.

WELL, WHAT DID HE DO TO

HIMSELF?

WHAT DID HE DO TO HIS

CHILDREN?

HOW ABOUT LET'S GET

TOGETHER.

AND THEY GOT TOGETHER, AND

THE LORD DID A MIRACLE.

NOW, IF YOU WANT TO HAVE A

REALLY BLESSED MARRIAGE,

YOU HAVE TO FORGIVE THESE

THINGS.

IF YOU'VE GOT A

FILLANDERING HUSBAND, DO

YOU HAVE TO STAY WITH HIM,

IF HE BEATS YOU, I DON'T

THINK SO.

THAT'S A TOTALLY DIFFERENT

MATTER.

BUT IN THIS CASE, THE MAN

SAYS, I WANT TO COME BACK.

I WANT TO RESTORE OUR

MARRIAGE.

THEY WERE HIGH SCHOOL

SWEETHEARTS.

THEY WERE CLOSE TO EACH

OTHER FOR YEARS.

SO HE'LL NEVER FIND THAT

INTIMACY WITH SOME CASUAL

LOVE AFFAIR.

WE WON'T DO IT.

BUT SHE, COLLEEN, WAS THE

ONE FOR HIM.

AND HE WAS THE ONE FOR

HER.

AND THEY RECOGNIZED IT.

AND I REJOICE THAT THAT

HAS TAKEN PLACE.

SO IF YOU WANT TO BEGIN

AGAIN, BE WILLING TO

FORGIVE AND RECOGNIZE THAT

THE GOD OF THE UNIVERSE

ALSO HAS FORGIVEN YOU.

AND EVEN AS HE HAS

FORGIVEN YOU, YOU NEED TO

SHOW THAT FORGIVENESS TO

SOMEBODY ELSE.

I HAVE A LITTLE BOOKLET

HERE, AND IT IS CALLED

"LOVE AND MARRIAGE."

AND IT'S SOME OF THE

SCRIPTURAL PRINCIPLES

ABOUT LOVE AND MARRIAGE,

HOW TO GET GOD IN YOUR

FAMILY.

AND I'LL GIVE THIS TO YOU

FREE IF YOU WANT IT.

IT WILL HELP YOU.

IT IS A SMALL BOOKLET, BUT

THERE ARE SOME PRINCIPLES

THAT MAKE A DIFFERENCE IN

YOUR LIFE.

YOU CAN CALL IN:

1-800-700-7000.

SAY, I LIKE THAT BOOK THAT

PAT IS OFFERING CALLED

"LOVE AND MARRIAGE," AND

WE'LL GIVE IT TO YOU FOR

FREE.

TERRY?

Terry: STILL AHEAD,

PASTOR MARK PATTERSON

ISSUES A CHALLENGE TO GUYS

EVERYWHERE: BE THE MAN GOD

CALLED YOU TO BE.

HE SHARES HOW THEY CAN DO

JUST THAT, WHEN WE RETURN.

Efrem: AND WELCOME

BACK TO "THE 700 CLUB."

A JURY IN TULSA, OKLAHOMA,

ACQUITTED A POLICE OFFICER

IN THE SHOOTING OF AN

UNARMED BLACK MAN.

THE FAMILY OF TERRENCE

KUTCHER BURST INTO TEARS

AFTER THEY FOUND THE

OFFICER NOT GUILTY OF

FIRST DEGREE MANSLAUGHTER.

SHELBY SAYS SHE FIRED HER

GUN OUT OF FEAR BECAUSE

KUTCHER REFUSED TO LIE

DOWN.

AND SHE WAS AFRAID HE WAS

UNDER THE INFLUENCE OF

P.C.P., A POWERFUL DRUG

THAT CAN MAKE PEOPLE

UNPREDICTABLE AND

COMBATIVE.

AN AUTOPSY DID SHOW

KRUTCHER DID HAVE P.C.P.

IN HIS SYSTEM.

> THE NUMBER OF

AMERICANS WHO VIEW THE

BIBLE AS THE LITERAL WORD

OF GOD HAS DROPPED TO AN

HISTORIC LOW, WITH MORE

AND MORE AMERICANS NOW

CONSIDERING IT A BOOK OF

FICTION.

THE REPORT SHOWS 26% SEE

THE BIBLE AS, QUOTE, "A

BOOK OF FABLES, LEGENDS,

HISTORY AND MORAL PRECEPS

RECORDED BY MAN."

AND ONLY 24% OF AMERICANS

BELIEVE THE BIBLE IS THE

ACTUAL WORD OF GOD AND

SHOULD BE TAKEN LITERALLY.

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PAT AND TERRY ARE BACK

WITH MORE OF "THE 700

CLUB."

IT IS COMING UP RIGHT

AFTER THIS.

Terry: MARK BATTERSON

IS THE FIRST TO ADMIT HE

LACKS THE CRITICAL MAN

SKILLS.

HE SAYS HE GETS LOST IF HE

NEEDS TO PUT TOGETHER

ANYTHING THAT REQUIRES

MORE THAN TWO STEPS.

ME, TOO.

WHEN YOU HAVE HAD TO ROUGH

IT IN NATURE, HE MADE SURE

TO BRING AN INFLATABLE

MATTRESS TO THAT

EXPERIENCE.

BUT MARK SAYS MANHOOD IS

MORE THAN JUST A SKILL

SET.

IT IS A ROLE THAT NEEDS TO

BE PLAYED.

Reporter: "NEW YORK

TIMES" BEST-SELLING AUTHOR

AND PASTOR MARK BATTERSON

SAYS MEN AND BOYS ARE

CONFUSED ABOUT THEIR

ROLES, RESPONSIBILITIES,

AND RELATIONSHIPS.

AND THE VERY REASON GOD

MADE THEM MEN.

WE LIVE IN A CULTURE

THAT IN MANY WAYS HAVE

REDEFINED MANHOOD,

DEVALUED MANHOOD, SO WE

SETTLE FOR SOMETHING FAR

LESS THAN GOD ORIGINALLY

INTENDED.

Reporter: MARK'S

LATEST BOOK, "PLAY THE

MAN," TELLS GUYS HOW THEY

CAN BECOME THE MAN GOD

CREATED THEM TO BE, NO

MATTER HOW THEY WERE

RAISED, SO THEY CAN TEACH

THE NEXT GENERATION ABOUT

LIFE AND LOVE.

Terry: MARK BATTERSON

IS BACK WITH US ON "THE

700 CLUB."

AND WE WELCOME YOU.

IT IS GOOD TO HAVE YOU

BACK AGAIN.

THANK YOU, TERRY.

IT IS ALWAYS A JOY.

Terry: YOU'VE GOT

THIS NEW BOOK, "PLAY THE

MAN," AND WHAT DOES REAL

MANHOOD LOOK LIKE?

I THINK WE HAVE TO GO

BACK TO THE BEGINNING AND

REALIZE THAT GOD DID

CREATE US MALE AND FEMALE.

IT IS NOT JUST A GOOD

IDEA, IT'S A GOD IDEA.

Terry: IT'S A GOD

IDEA.

IT IS SOMETHING WE

SHOULD CELEBRATE.

AND, BY THE WAY, I THINK

THE GREATEST GIFT A MAN

COULD GIVE A WOMAN IS TO

BE A MAN OF GOD, AND VICE

VERSA.

AND THEN WE LOOK TO THE

NEW TESTAMENT, AND I THINK

JESUS IS THE STANDARD, THE

EXAMPLE OF WHAT IT MEANS,

AS THE SON OF MAN AND, OF

COURSE, AS THE SON OF GOD.

WE NEED LOOK NO FURTHER IF

WE WANT THE STANDARD FOR

WHAT IT MEANS TO BE A MAN

OF GOD.

Terry: HE HAD IT ALL.

HE KNEW WHEN TO EXERCISE A

SENSE OF OFFENSE OR

AUTHORITY, AND HE KNEW HOW

TO BE TENDER AND GENTLE.

THE TITLE OF YOUR BOOK

"PLAY THE MAN," AND THAT

ACTUALLY HAS SOME

HISTORICAL SIGNIFICANCE?

IT DOES AND I LOVE

HISTORY.

Terry: I COULD TELL

THAT BY READING YOUR BOOK.

155 A.D., THE BISHOP OF

SMYRNA, A GUY NAMED POLLY

CARP, AND YOU CAN READ

ABOUT HIM IN FOX'S BOOK OF

MARTYRS -- HE WAS ARRESTED

FOR HIS FAITH AND BROUGHT

INTO A COLLISIUM, AND TOLD

TO RECANT HIS FAITH.

BUT HE HEARD A VOICE FROM

HEAVEN THAT SAID, BE

STRONG, POLLY CARP, PLAY

THE MAN.

AND THAT'S WHAT HE DID.

HE COURAGEOUSLY DIED FOR

HIS FAITH.

THE GOOD NEWS, TERRY, IS I

DON'T THINK MANY OF US,

WITH THE FREEDOMS WE

ENJOY, WILL BE CALLED TO

DO THAT IN THE WEST, BUT

ARE WE GOING TO LIVE FOR

HIM?

WHAT DOES IT MEAN TO TAKE

UP YOUR CROSS DAILY AND

FOLLOW CHRIST?

THIS BOOK IS REALLY A CALL

TO MEN TO PLAY THE MAN.

AND I TALK ABOUT WHAT THAT

MEANS, AND TALK ABOUT THE

SEVEN VIRTUES OF MANHOOD.

Terry: TALK ABOUT THE

SEVEN VIRTUES.

YOU REALLY GIVE SOME

DIRECTION ON WHAT DOES

THAT LOOK LIKE.

WHAT DOES THE CONTENT OF A

REAL MAN LOOK LIKE, AND

HOW DO I GET THERE FROM

HERE?

YEAH, BECAUSE WHAT IS

THAT TARGET.

IN OUR CULTURE, WE'RE NOT

EVEN SURE EXACTLY WHAT

THAT MEANS.

WHAT IS IT THAT

DIFFERENTIATES MEN?

THE VERY FIRST SCRIPTURE

THAT I TALK ABOUT IS TOUGH

LOVE.

TOUGH LOVE IS CARRYING A

300-POUND CROSS 650 YARDS

DOWN THE VIA DELA ROSA FOR

SOMEONE ELSE'S SIN.

THAT'S TOUGH LOVE.

SO FOR ME, A TOUGH GUY IS

NOT SOMEONE WHO CAN

BLACKENED AN EYE.

IT IS SOMEONE WHO IS

WILLING TO BE NAILED TO A

CROSS FOR SOMEONE ELSE'S

SIN --

Terry: AND HE DOES IT

WILLINGLY.

AND HE DOES IT

WILLINGLY, AND THAT'S WHAT

WE'RE CALLED TO AS MEN, TO

FOLLOW THAT EXAMPLE.

Terry: GIVE US SOME

OF THE OTHERS.

I TALK ABOUT EVERYTHING

FROM CHILD-LIKE WONDER TO

WILLPOWER, TRUE GRIT, RAW

PASSION, CLEAR VISION --

AND THAT ONE IS KEY.

BUT A LOT OF MEN HAVE MORE

VISION FOR PERHAPS THE

CHURCH THEY LEAD OR THE

BUSINESS THAT THEY

STARTED, OR WHATEVER

OCCUPATION THEY'RE CALLED

TO, THAN THEIR FAMILY.

AND WE'VE GOT TO MAKE SURE

THAT WE'VE GOT VISION FOR

OUR FAMILIES AND FOR OUR

CHILDREN.

AND THEN I END WITH MORAL

COURAGE BECAUSE AT THE END

OF THE DAY, IT TAKES

COURAGE TO BE THE KIND OF

HUSBAND AND FATHER THAT

GOD HAS CALLED US TO BE.

Terry: LET'S JUMP

BACK TO CHILD-LIKE WONDER.

AND THERE IS A DIFFERENCE

BETWEEN BEING CHILD-LIKE

AND CHILD DISH.

CHILDISH.

YES.

CHILDISH, NOT A GOOD

THING.

Terry: I WANT TO BE

YOUR WIFE, NOT YOUR

MOTHER.

THEY NEVER REALLY

BECOME MEN.

IT DOESN'T HAPPEN BY

DEFAULT.

AND SO I'VE ACTUALLY TAKEN

MY BOYS THROUGH A

DISCIPLESHIP PROCESS,

WHICH WE CAN TALK ABOUT.

Terry: I LOVE THAT.

I THINK MAINTAINING

THAT CHILD LIKENESS.

THAT'S ONE OF THE GIFTS OF

HAVING CHILDREN.

BECAUSE IT REMINDS YOU OF

WHAT IT IS LIKE TO HAVE A

CHILD.

IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY,

JESUS TOOK A CHILD AND PUT

HIM RIGHT IN THE CENTER OF

THE KINGDOM OF GOD.

AND SAID, UNLESS YOU'RE

LIKE THIS LITTLE CHILD,

YOU CAN'T EVEN GET INTO

THE FRONT DOOR.

THAT CHAPTER HAD A LITTLE

FUN TALKING ABOUT THAT

CHILD LIKENESS AND WHAT

THAT LOOKS LIKE FOR A MAN

OF GOD.

Terry: YOU TALKED

ABOUT THE SPECIAL -- I

DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU CALL

IT, LIKE A PROGRAM, OR A

PRACTICE THAT YOU PUT YOUR

BOYS THROUGH AS THEY COME

TO PUBERTY AND GET READY

TO GO INTO MANHOOD.

ALL OF THIS WOULD BE SO

MUCH EASIER FOR YOUNG MEN

IF THEIR DADS KIND OF LED

THE WAY.

TALK ABOUT WHAT IT IS YOU

DO WITH YOUR SONS.

A COUPLE OF MONTHS AGO,

I'M IN A SETTING WITH 500

GUYS.

AND I ASKED THEM THE

QUESTION: HOW MANY OF YOU

WERE INTENTIONALLY

DISCIPLED BY YOUR FATHER?

THREE HANDS WENT UP.

HOUSTON, WE HAVE A

PROBLEM.

BECAUSE WE HAVE FATHERS

WHO HAVE NEVER LEARNED

WHAT IT MEANS TO BE A

SPIRITUAL FATHER.

I'LL BE THE FIRST TO SAY,

I'VE MADE LOTS OF

MISTAKES.

Terry: WE ALL DO.

AND I SHARE SOME OF

THOSE IN THE BOOK.

BUT I WANTED TO GET ONE

THING RIGHT, AND PART OF

IT IS, TERRY, I WANT TO BE

FAMOUS IN MY HOME.

TO ME, SUCCESS IF WHEN

THOSE WHO KNOW YOU BEST

RESPECT YOU THE MOST, AND

THAT'S MY WIFE AND MY

CHILDREN.

AS MY SONS APPROACHED

THEIR 12th BIRTHDAY, I

THOUGHT, I'VE GOT TO DO

SOMETHING.

SO I CREATED THIS

DISCIPLESHIP COVENANT WITH

HAVE PHYSICAL CHALLENGE, A

MENTAL CHALLENGE AND A

SPIRITUAL CHALLENGE.

AND IT ENDED WITH A RIGHT

OF PASSAGE.

TERRY, IN OUR CULTURE, IT

IS ALMOST LIKE WE DON'T DO

ANYTHING WITH OUR SONS,

AND THEN THEY TURN 21,

LEGAL DRINKING AGE, AND

THEN THAT'S THEIR RIGHT OF

PASSAGE.

NO.

COME ON, WE'VE GOT TO DO

BETTER THAN THAT.

WHAT I WANTED TO DO WAS

TAKE MY SONS THROUGH A

DISCIPLESHIP PROCESS, AND

AT THE END OF IT,

CELEBRATE IT.

BECAUSE NOW WE'VE STEPPED

INTO THIS THING CALLED

MANHOOD.

LET'S HELP THIS YOUNG MAN

BECOME A MAN OF GOD.

THAT'S THE PROCESS THAT I

WENT THROUGH.

Terry: AND YOU'VE

SPOKEN THAT MANHOOD OVER

THEM IN A WAY THAT CALLS

THEM.

WHICH IS SO WONDERFUL.

AND ISN'T IT

INTERESTING THAT THE

HEAVENLY FATHER EVEN DID

THAT AT JESUS BAPTISM.

HE SAID, THIS IS MY

BELOVED SON IN WHOM I AM

WELL-PLEASED.

THAT'S MY HEART AS AN

EARTHLY FATHER, TO SPEAK

THAT SAME THING OVER MY

TWO SONS AND MY DAUGHTER.

Terry: IT'S WHAT IS

SUPPOSED TO HAPPEN, AND

IT'S ALL HERE.

THIS BOOK IS CALLED "PLAY

THE MAN," AND IT PROBABLY

HAS NEVER BEEN MORE NEEDED

IN OUR CULTURE FOR FATHERS

AND YOUNG GROWING UP

TODAY.

LOTS OF WISE COUNSEL IN

HERE.

THANK YOU, MARK.

THANK YOU SO MUCH,

TERRY.

Terry: STILL AHEAD,

WE'VE GOT YOUR E-MAIL

QUESTIONS.

LAUREN ASKS THIS "IS IT

OKAY TO CONTINUE A CORDIAL

RELATIONSHIP WITH AN

EX-SPOUSE AFTER THE

DIVORCE IS FINAL?"

PAT WEIGHS IN ON THAT AND

MORE AND IT'S ALL COMING

Terry: WELL, WE HAVE

SOME TIME TO BRING ON SOME

OF THE E-MAIL YOU SENT IN.

LET'S START WITH LAUREN,

WHO SAYS, "WAS WONDERING

IF IT IS RIGHT AND

BIBLICAL TO CONTINUE A

CORDIAL OR EVEN CLOSE

RELATIONSHIP WITH YOUR

EX-SPOUSE AND THEIR

FAMILY.

I KNOW THE BIBLE SAYS

DIVORCE IS WRONG UNLESS

SOMEONE CHEATS.

SHOULD YOU AVOID ANY

RELATIONSHIP WITH EACH

OTHER ALL TOGETHER?

I KNOW OF A FEW SITUATIONS

WHERE THE EX-SPOUSES ARE

STILL FRIENDS.

IS THIS OKAY?"

Pat: I THINK IT WOULD

BE TRIRVEG.

TERRIFIC.

THE LORD IS ON THE SIDE OF

LOVE AND RECONCILIATION.

IF YOU CAN DO THAT AND

THERE IS NOT RANCOR AND

BITTERNESS, THAT'S GREAT.

Terry: CINDY SAYS,

"MY HUSBAND HAS DONE THE

MOST UNTHINKABLE THING I

THOUGHT HE WOULD EVER DO.

HE HAS BEEN WORKING FOR A

COMPANY FOR MORE THAN 30

YEARS.

HE WAS A TRUSTWORTHY

EMPLOYEE, UNTIL HE GOT

INTO PORNOGRAPHY, AND

EVERYTHING WENT WRONG FROM

THERE.

HE EMBEZZLED $25,000 FROM

HER EMPLOYER, AND HE JUST

GOT CAUGHT LAST FRIDAY.

WE HAVE TO PAY HIS

EMPLOYER BACK.

I ALSO FOUND OUT HE HAD

PLANS TO LEAVE ME.

NOW I'M STUCK IN THE

MIDDLE OF EVERYTHING.

WE'VE BEEN LIVING FROM

PAYCHECK TO PAYCHECK AND I

CAN'T WORK.

WE ARE HAVING TO REFINANCE

OUR HOME, BUT WE CAN'T

AFFORD THE LOAN PAYMENTS.

I'M SO ASHAMED OF WHAT

HE'S DONE.

I CAN'T EVEN AFFORD TO GET

A DIVORCE.

WOULD SHOULD I DO?"

Pat: BOY, SIN IS VERY

COSTLY.

BUT, YOU KNOW, PORNOGRAPHY

IS AN ADDICTION.

YOUR HUSBAND WAS CAPTURED

BY PORNOGRAPHY, AND A

HARD-WORKING, DECENT MAN

WAS CAPTURED.

AND SUDDENLY HE IS HAVING

THESE SENSUAL FANTASIES

WHICH HAVE RUINED HIM.

WHY HE NEEDED $25,000, I

DON'T KNOW, BUT HE STOLE

IT.

OKAY.

YOU'RE ASHAMED.

I THINK THE THING YOU NEED

TO DO, FRANKLY, IS FORGIVE

HIM AND GET ON WITH YOUR

LIFE AND HELP BUILD HIM

UP.

YOU'VE GOT ARTHRITIS.

YOU CAN'T WORK.

YOU NEED HIM.

SO HE STOLE.

SO SLANDER IS AS BAD AS

STEALING IN THE BIBLE.

YOU'VE GOT PEOPLE WHO

SLANDER, AND YOU'RE NOT

ASHAMED TO BE IN THEIR

COMPANY.

SO IF I WERE YOU, I WOULD

PUT ON A BRAVE FACE, BE

THE GOOD WIFE, AND BUILD

HIM UP, AND SEE IF YOU

CAN'T GET THAT MARRIAGE

BACK TOGETHER AGAIN.

BECAUSE YOU NEED EACH

OTHER NOW, FOR BETTER OR

WORSE, RICHER OR POORER,

ALL OF THAT STUFF.

YOU SAID VOWS, LIVE THEM

OUT.

Terry: DEANNA SAYS,

"I'VE BEEN A CHRISTIAN NOW

FOR 14 YEARS, I'VE BEEN

PRAYING FOR SOMETHING FOR

YEARS, BUT I'M STRUGGLING

TO FIGURE OUT WHAT GOD IS

TELLING ME TO DO.

HOW DO YOU HEAR GOD

SPEAKING TO YOU, AND HOW

DO YOU KNOW IT'S FROM

HIM?"

Pat: WELL, THE BIBLE

IS GOD'S WORD, AND GOD

WON'T TELL YOU ANYTHING

CONTRARY TO THE BIBLE.

SO I RECOMMEND THAT YOU

GET VERY FAMILIAR WITH THE

BIBLE.

AND LET THE BIBLE BE YOUR

GUIDE.

THAT'S WHERE IT COMES

FROM.

HOW DO YOU KNOW?

WELL, THE BIBLE SAYS

YOU'LL HEAR A VOICE IN

YOUR EAR WHEN YOU TURN TO

THE RIGHT OR THE LEFT,

SAYING THIS IS THE WAY,

WALK YEE IN IT.

THERE IS A STILL, SMALL

VOICE OF THE LORD.

CORINTHIANS -- I'M GETTING

THE WRONG SCRIPTURE.

BUT, ANYHOW, LET THE PEACE

OF GOD BE AN UMPIRE IN

YOUR HEART.

LET THE PEACE OF GOD BE AN

UMPIRE.

AND IF THE PEACE LIVES,

YOU KNOW YOU'RE DOING THE

RIGHT THING.

Terry: ANNIE SAYS,

"PAT, I FOUND OUT I'M

ELIGIBLE TO COLLECT $2200

A MONTH IN SOCIAL SECURITY

FROM MY LATE HUSBAND OF 25

YEARS.

I'VE BEEN REMARRIED FOR 10

YEARS NOW, AND SOCIAL

SECURITY SAID IN ORDER TO

COLLECT THIS, I CAN'T BE

MARRIAGE.

WOULD I HAVE TO HAVE MY

MARRIAGE DISSOLVED ON

PAPER TO ABIDE BY MAN'S

LAW.

WHAT WOULD THE LORD THINK

OF THIS?"

Pat: I THINK THE LAW

THINKS YOU SHOULDN'T BREAK

THE LAW.

THE LAW SAYS IF YOU'RE

REMARRIED, YOU'RE NOT

ENTITLED TO SOCIAL

SECURITY BENEFITS.

THAT'S WHAT IT SAYS.

ARE YOU GOING TO GET A

DIVORCE FROM YOUR GOOD

HUSBAND IN ORDER TO

COLLECT A FEW BUCKS?

NO WAY.

THE LORD SAYS BE HONEST

AND HONORABLE IN YOUR

DEALINGS.

AND, BY THE WAY, IF YOU

GET CAUGHT, YOU MIGHT GO

TO JAIL AND YOU WOULDN'T

LIKE THAT EITHER.

Terry: CHRISTY WANTS

TO KNOW, "WHY WOULD NORTH

KOREA ACTUALLY TRY TO

DELIBERATELY ATTACK US

THROUGH TECHNOLOGY?"

Pat: BECAUSE THEY'RE

CRAZY.

THAT'S WHY, BECAUSE

THEY'RE CRAZY.

WHY WOULD THEY STARVE

THEIR PEOPLE?

WHY WOULD THEY TORTURE

PEOPLE?

WHY WOULD KIM JONG-UN HAVE

HIS RELATIVE SHOT, HIS

BROTHER?

THEY'RE CRAZY, THAT'S WHY.

> WE LEAVE YOU WITH OUR

POWER MEET FROM THE

PSALMS: "I WILL EXALT YOU,

MY GOD THE KING.

I WILL PRAISE YOUR NAME

FOREVER AND EVER."

TOMORROW WE'LL BE JOINED

BY HILLSONG'S CO-PASTOR,

BOBBY HOUSTON.

FOR TERRY AND WENDY AND

ALL OF US, THIS IS PAT

ROBERTSON.

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR

BEING WITH US.

AND TUNE IN TOMORROW FOR

ANOTHER EDITION OF "THE

700 CLUB."

SEE YOU THEN.

BYE-BYE.