Author of “The Warrior We Call Mom†Deven Wallace, will discuss her wake-up call and the call to action for mothers to raise the next generation to walk in their kingdom positions.
Read Transcript
Gordon: A BAD CHURCH
EXPERIENCE LED TO THIS
CONCLUSION...
I SAID THAT I DON'T
WANT NOTHING TO DO WITH
GOD, AND I'M NOT GOING TO
CHURCH ANYMORE.
I DON'T WANT TO HEAR
NOTHING ABOUT GOD.
Gordon: A LIFE HEADED
IN THE WRONG DIRECTION.
IN A STRIP BAR, AND A
BUNCH OF MEN, AND 20s
RAINING DOWN OVER YOUR
HEAD.
Gordon: FIND OUT HOW
A VOICE STOPPED HER IN HER
TRACKS ON TODAY'S "700
CLUB INTERACTIVE."
> WELL, WELCOME TO THE
SHOW.
IF YOU ENJOY CHICK-FIL-A,
AND HAPPEN TO O B BE A STUDENT
AT FORDHAM UNIVERSITY,
YOU'LL HAVE TO GO
OFFCAMPUS TO GET YOUR
DINING EXPERIENCE.
Terry: AFTER
CONSULTING WITH RAINBOW
ALLIANCE, FORDHAM DECIDED
AGAINST ADDING THE POPULAR
CHICKEN CHAIN.
THEY SAID, IF THEY WANT TO
BRING IN STRICK CHICK-FIL-A, THEY
CAN, BUT WE'RE NOT GOING
TO PARTNER WITH A
CORPORATION THAT WORKS TO
DESTABILIZE AND DEMOLISH
MOVEMENTS FOR CLEAR
EQUALITY.
Gordon: AND THIS HAS
A MUCH BROADER, I THINK,
IMPLICATION FOR OUR
CULTURE, WHERE IF YOU, AS
A CORPORATION OR AN
INDIVIDUAL, GIVE MONEY TO
ANY GROUP THAT SAYS WE
STAND FOR TRADITIONAL
MARRIAGE IN OUR CULTURE
TODAY, WE WANT TO VOTE
THAT WAY, WE WANT TO
ENCOURAGE OTHER PEOPLE TO
VOTE THAT WAY -- ALL OF
THIS GOES BACK TO
CHICK-FIL-A'S SUPPORT FOR
PROPOSITION 8 IN
CALIFORNIA.
THAT PROPOSITION, BY THE
WAY, WON IN THE POPULAR
VOTE, BUT THEN WAS
MYSTERIOUSLY STRUCK DOWN
IN THE COURTS.
SOMEHOW BEING
UNCONSTITUTIONAL.
BUT IT SPEAKS TO IF YOU
DONATE, IF YOU
PARTICIPATE, THEN FOREVER
YOU ARE BOYCOTTED.
THIS IS NOT JUST -- YOU
JUST DON'T HAVE FREE
SPEECH ANYMORE IN THAT
KIND OF CULTURE.
Terry: AND NOT
BOYCOTTED BY INDIVIDUALS,
WHO MAY SAY I DON'T AGREE
WITH WHAT THEY'VE DONE,
BUT BOYCOTTED BY AN ENTIRE
UNIVERSITY.
I FIND IT HARD TO BELIEVE.
Gordon: IT IS THE
SMALL GROUP WHO SAYS,
WE'LL PROTEST AT THE
UNIVERSITY LEVEL, AND
WE'LL MAKE YOUR LIFE VERY
DIFFICULT IF YOU DON'T
FOLLOW OUR WISHES.
Terry: IT'S A
UNIVERSITY -- WHAT'S UP
WITH THAT?
Gordon: WE'RE SEEING
IT WITH AVERTISERS AND
ADVERTISING AGENCIES, THAT
THEY WON'T SUPPORT
PARTICULAR TELEVISION
HOSTS BECAUSE OF CERTAIN
THINGS.
PLEASE UNDERSTAND, LET ME
UNDER LINE, THIS WILL
IMPACT FREE SPEECH.
WE'RE NOT DEALING WITH
GOVERNMENTS HERE, SO THIS
ISN'T A CONSTITUTIONAL
ISSUE OR A FIRST AMENDMENT
ISSUE, BUT I DO THINK IT
IS A ACTUALLY TRA CULTURAL ISSUE.
> LEAH'S SON, MALACHI,
HAS SMASH NEEDS SPECIAL NEEDS, AND SHE
VISITED THE RESTAURANT.
AND THEN A BOY SHOUTED,
HEY, MOM, LOOK THE AT THAT
BOY.
AND SHE SAW THE HORROR ON
THE MOTHER'S FACE.
Terry: YOU LEANED
FORWARD AND QUIETLY AND
TOLD HIM, WE DON'T SAY
THINGS LIKE THAT, AND WE
DON'T POINT OR STARE.
AND THEN SHE GOES ON TO
SAY, "YOU TOOK A DEEP
BREATH, AND YOU TOOK A
STEP OF COURAGE.
YOU BROUGHT YOUR BOYS OVER
TO MALACHI AND SAID, I BET
HE WOULD LIKE TO NOW YOUR
NAMES.
YOU TOOK THE TIME TO
EDUCATE YOUR SONS IN THAT
MOMENT AND HELP THEM
UNDERSTAND THAT DIFFERENT
IS OKAY.
DIFFERENT IS NOT SOMETHING
TO FEAR, AND THAT WAS OKAY
TO ASK QUESTIONS."
BOY, KUDOS TO THIS MOM.
TALK ABOUT LEARNING
MOMENT.
Gordon: THAT'S A VERY
SMART MOM.
NOT JUST SAYING, I'M
EMBARRASSED AND LET'S GET
OUT OF HERE, BUT SAYING,
I'M EMBARRASSED, BUT I
NEED TO MAKE SURE MY KIDS
KNOW.
Terry: WHEN WE DO
SOMETHING LIKE THAT, AND
TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THOSE
MOMENTS, IT IS NOT JUST
LEAH AND HER SON THAT
NOTICED, BUT I IMAGINE THE
WHOLE RESTAURANT NOTICED.
Gordon: AND IT IS A
LIFE LESSON FOR YOUR KIDS.
SEIZE THAT MOMENT.
DON'T TURN AWAY FROM THAT
MOMENT.
Terry: AND FROM YOUR
OWN DISCOMFORT WITH WHAT
YOUR CHILDREN MAY HAVE
DONE.
Gordon: SOME GOOD
NEWS AND BAD NEWS FOR AN
IRISH CHRISTIAN BAKER.
BACK IN 2014, DANIEL AND
AMY, OWNERS OF ASHER
BAKERY RECEIVED A REQUEST
FROM AN ORGANIZATION
CALLED "QUEER PEACE, SPACE," TO
BAKE A CAKE.
THE JUDGE FOUND THEM
GUILTY OF DISCRIMINATION
FOR INJURY OF FEELINGS.
THEY HAVE APPEALED AND
LOST AND ARE NOW TAKING
THEIR CASE TO THE SUPREME
COURT.
WHAT WE REFUSED TO
COULD WADOWAS TO BE INVOLVED WITH A
POLITICAL STATEMENT TO
CHANGE MINDS IN NORTHERN
IRELAND.
BECAUSE WE'RE CHRISTIANS,
WE SUPPORT THE CURRENT
LAW.
AND WE FELT THAT MAKING
THIS CAKE WOULD MAKE US
RESPONSIBLE FOR ITS
MESSAGE.
WE WOULDN'T DECORATE A
CAKE WITH A PORNOGRAPHIC
PICTURE OR WITH SWEAR
WORDS.
WE WOULDN'T EVEN DE DECORATE
A CAKE WITH A SPITEFUL
MESSAGE ABOUT GAY PEOPLE.
IT HAS BEEN A TRYING TIME,
BUT WE'RE THANKFUL TO GOD
AND HIS FAITHFULNESS
THROUGH EVERYTHING.
HE IS STILL ON THE THRONE.
HE IS THE RULER OF HEAVEN
AND EARTH, AND HE IS OUR
GOD AND WE WORSHIP AND
HONOR HIM.
Terry: THE
CONTROVERSY HASN'T HURT
SALES.
THE BAKERY'S PROFITS HAVE
ACTUALLY INCREASED TO
1.6 MILLION IN JUST ONE
YEAR.
Gordon: LET'S ALL GO
TO IRELAND AND BUY A CAKE.
AGAIN, I'LL UNDERINE IT,
THIS IS A FREE SPEECH
ISSUE.
IF YOU DON'T AGREE WITH A
PARTICULAR MESSAGE,
WHETHER ON A CAKE OR A
T-SHIRT, CAN ANOTHER
INDIVIDUAL FORCE YOU IN
THE COURT SYSTEM TO DO
THAT, AND TO VIOLATE YOUR
OWN CONSCIENCE?
I THINK AS A CULTURE WE
NEED TO BE VERY WEARY OF
THIS.
AT WHAT POINT IN TIME DO
WE DENY THE FREEDOM OF
CONSCIENCE?
I THINK WE'RE AT THAT
POINT RIGHT NOW.
AND WE NEED TO PROTECT
FREE SPEECH.
WE NEED TO PARTICULARLY
PROTECT POLITICAL SPEECH.
THIS HAS TO DO WITH A LAW
THAT IS CURRENTLY ON THE
BOOKS IN IRELAND, IN AN
ATTEMPT TO OVERTHROW IT.
AND IF WE DON'T WANT TO GO
ALONG WITH THE OVERTHROW,
DOES IT MAKE YOU SOMEHOW
SUBJECT TO A CIVIL RIGHTS
COURT?
NO.
WE NEED TO STAND UP FOR
FREEDOM OF CONSCIENCE.
AND THERE IS ARTICLE 18 TO
THE U.N. THAT PROTECTS
FREEDOM OF CONSCIENCE.
AND THIS WAS PUT INTO THE
U.N. CHARTER BY NONE OTHER
THAN ELINOR ROOSEVELT, WHO
THOUGHT OF IT AS A
FUNDAMENTAL HUMAN RIGHT,
THAT ALL PEOPLE
EVERYWHERE, REGARDLESS OF
NATIONALITY OR WHETHER
THEY HAVE A BILL OF
RIGHTS, THAT BY SIGNING
INTO THE U.N., THOSE
COUNTRIES GUARANTEE THAT
YOU HAVE FREEDOM OF
CONSCIENCE.
YOU HAVE THE FREEDOM TO
BELIEVE WHAT YOU WANT TO
BELIEVE.
> LAST WEEK 82 NIGERIAN
GIRLS, KNOWN AS THE CHIBOK
GIRLS, WERE RELEASED.
THIS AFTER THREE YEARS IN
CAPTIVITY, AND BEING
KIDNAPPED BY BOKO HARAM.
THE RELEASE CAME FOLLOWING
THE NIGERIAN GOVERNMENT'S
DEAL.
Terry: THE GIRLS
REQUIRE A REHABILITATION
PROCESS AT THE FEDERAL
MINISTRY OF WOMEN AFFAIRS,
WHICH WILL REPORTEDLY
DELAY THEIR RETURN HOME
EIGHT TO 12 MONTHS.
SOME OF THE PARENTS AND
COMMUNITY MEMBERS FEEL
THAT THE REHAB PROCESS IS
TOO LONG.
THE STRATEGIC LEADERSHIP
MEMBER OF THE "BRING BACK
OUR GIRLS" CAMPAIGN SAYS
THE REHAB IS ABSOLUTELY
NECESSARY, CONSIDERING HOW
LONG THE GIRLS SPENT WITH
THE EXTREMISTS.
Gordon: I'M ALL FOR
REHAB.
I'M ALL FOR, IS THERE
GOING TO BE PTSD, DO THEY
NEED TREATMENT, BUT THE
BEST PLACE FOR THESE GIRLS
IS BACK WITH THEIR
FAMILIES.
AND TO DENY THEM ANOTHER
YEAR, THAT IS ADDING
ANOTHER YEAR THAT IS
ALREADY A THREE-YEAR
HORROR.
Terry: IT SEEMS LIKE
THERE COULD BE SOME WAY TO
BRING THAT COUNSELLING AND
HEALING PROCESS TO THEM
WHILE THEY'RE IN THEIR
FAMILIES.
Gordon: WE ALL KNOW
THE DANGERS THAT INTERNET
PHOTOGRAPHY POSSESS, BUT
JOSH MCDOWELL SAYS HE IS
WARNING PARENTS TO PREPARE
THEIR CHILDREN BY AGE
FIVE -- GET THIS, AGE
FIVE.
HE SAYS PORNOGRAPHY'S
AFFECT ON THE BRAIN IS
SIMILAR TO NARCOTICS, SUCH
AS COCAINE AND HEROIN.
Terry: HIS MINISTRY
RECENTLY CONDUCTED A STUDY
SHOWING THAT NEARLY HALF
OF YOUNG PEOPLE ARE
ACTIVELY SEEKING
PORNOGRAPHY WEEKLY OR MORE
THAN FREQUENTLY.
AND MORE THAN ONE IN FOUR
INDIVIDUALS BETWEEN THE
AGES OF 25 AND 30 VIEWED
PORNOGRAPHY BEFORE
PUBERTY.
AND 21% OF YOUTH PASTORS,
AND 14% OF PASTORS, ARE
CURRENTLY STRUGGLING WITH
THIS ISSUE.
ACTUALLY, I'VE SEEN SOME
STATS ABOUT PASTORS AND
YOUTH PASTORS THAT HAVE
BEEN HIGHER THAN THOSE
PERCENTAGES.
Gordon: I'VE SEEN
HIGHER AND I'VE SEEN
LOWER.
I THINK GETTING INTO THE
STATS, YOU CAN DEBATE THAT
ALL DAY.
BUT THE AFFECT OF
PORNOGRAPHY NOT JUST ON
FAITH BUT ON MARRIAGE IS
PROFOUND.
AND WE'RE SEEING THAT IN
THE MILLENNIAL GENERATION,
WHERE THESE PEOPLE ARE
DELAYING MARRIAGE AND
FOREGOING MARRIAGE.
AND I BELIEVE IT IS
BECAUSE OF THE CULTURE OF
PORNOGRAPHY.
WE HAVE BECOME SO USED TO
IT.
WE HAVE BECOME SO USED TO
SEXUALIZATION IN ALL OF
OUR MEDIA, NOT JUST
PORNOGRAPHY.
ALL OF THE ADVERTISING, IT
ALL SEEMS LIKE SEX SELLS,
SO IT IS LIKE WE'VE GOTTEN
NUMB TO IT.
WE DON'T EVEN PAY
ATTENTION TO IT ANYMORE.
BUT WHAT HAPPENS IN THE
BRAIN IS FASCINATING FROM
A MEDICAL STANDPOINT BUT
HORRIFYING FROM STABILITY
OF MARRIAGE STANDPOINT.
IT IS VIEWING THOSE IMAGES
THAT RELEASES A CHEMICAL
IN THE BRAIN THAT IS
SIMILAR TO NARCOTICS, AND
IT DEFINITELY IS
ADDICTIVE.
AND WHAT DOES THAT DO TO
LONG-STANDING, INTIMATE
RELATIONSHIPS IN MARRIAGE?
IT ABSOLUTELY DESTROYS
THEM.
SO AS A CULTURE, CAN WE
STAND UP.
AGAIN, THIS IS ANOTHER
FREE SPEECH ISSUE.
WHERE WE DON'T HAVE THE
FREEDOM TO SAY POLITICAL
VIEWS ON GAY MARRIAGE, BUT
WE ALSO DON'T HAVE THE
FREEDOM -- AND I WOULD
CALL IT FREEDOM -- TO SAY
LET US, AS A CULTURE, NOT
HAVE THESE KINDS OF IMAGES
COMING INTO EVERY DEVICE
THAT WE OWN, AND
PARTICULARLY DEVICES THAT
WOULD BE IN THE HANDS OF
CHILDREN.
Terry: WELL, THAT'S
WHAT I THINK.
COMING INTO -- IT TALKS
ABOUT CERTAINLY THERE ARE
ADULTS AND NOW YOUNG
PEOPLE WHO ARE SEEKING IT,
BUT THE FACT OF THE MATTER
IS IT COMES INTO YOUR
DEVICE.
Gordon: IT IS LOOKING
TO O GET YO GET YOU HOOKED.
IF WE CAN BAN CIGARETTE
ADVERTISING, WHY CAN'T WE
BAN THIS?
Terry: COMING UP, SHE
SAYS THE ENEMY HAS NO
INTENTION OF PLAYING NICE
AND WANTS TO DESTROY YOUR
CHILDREN.
AUTHOR DEVON WALLACE JOINS
US TO TELL US HOW TO
DEFEND OUR HOME AND OUR
INHERITANCE, AND THAT'S
Terry: HEARING THE
WORD "WARRIOR," MAY
CONJURE OF MEN IN AN
ARENA, BUT HAVE YOU EVER
THOUGHT OF MOTHERS AR
WARRIORS?
AUTHOR DEVON WALLACE HAS.
TAKE A LOOK.
Reporter: WITH THREE
CHILDREN UNDER THE AGE OF
THREE, IT IS NO WONDER
DEVON WALLACE WAS
OVERWHELMED.
SHE FELT LIKE SHE WAS
FAILING AT HIS DUTIES AS A
PASTOR'S WIFE AND MOM.
ONE DAY WHILE SHE WAS
CRYING, SHE FELT THE LORD
GIVE HER A CALL OF ACTION
TO ALL MOMS.
YOU ARE A MIGHTY
WARRIOR, AND YOUR CHILDREN
ARE YOUR MOST POWERFUL
WEAPONS.
Reporter: IN HER
BOOK, "THE WARRIOR WE CALL
MOM," DEVON LAYS OUT A
STRATEGY AND SHARES THE
STEPS FOR EMPOWERING OUR
KIDS TO CHANGE THE NEXT
GENERATION.
Terry: DEVON WALLACE
JOINS US NOW.
THE BOOK'S TITLE IS CALLED
"THE WARRIOR WE CALL MOM."
AND WARRIOR IS AN
AGGRESSIVE WORD.
HOW DO YOU USE IT IN YOUR
BOOK?
I WENT STRAIGHT TO THE
WORD AND PSALMS 127: 4
SAYS AS ARROWS ARE IN THE
HANDS OF A MIGHTY WARRIOR,
SO ARE OUR CHILDREN.
I FAILED TO LOOK OVER THE
FACT THAT THE ONE WHO
HOLDS THE ARROWS GOD VIEWS
AS A MIGHTY WARRIOR.
OF THE MOM AND THE DAD,
GOD SEES THEM AS SKILLED
ARCHERS AND OF THE WEAPONS
HE GIVES THEM.
Terry: WHAT'S THE
DEVIL'S TRIANGLE?
TALK ABOUT THAT.
IT IS A PLACE I FOUND
MYSELF IN AS A YOUNG MOM,
WHEN I DID HAVE THREE
UNDER THE AGE OF THREE.
THE DEVIL'S TRIANGLE
REFERS TO THE BERMUDA
TRIANGLE.
AND IT USED TO BE A
MYSTERIOUS TERM FOR PLACES
WHERE SHIPS AND AIRPLANES
WOULD ENTER NA THA INTO THAT ZONE
AND THEY WOULD LOSE FORMS
OF COMMUNICATION AND THEY
WOULD DISAPPEAR.
AND THE LORD BEGAN TO SHOW
ME THAT THIS IS WHERE MANY
MOMS END UP, AND THEY
ENTER INTO, AND WE NEVER
HEAR FROM THEM AGAIN.
THAT TRIANGLE IS MADE UP
OF BEING A DAUGHTER OF
GOD, BEING A WIFE, AND A
MOTHER OF CHILDREN.
AND TRYING TO NAVIGATE ALL
OF THOSE ROLES.
Terry: IT IS TOUGH,
VERY TOUGH.
IT IS ONE THING TO READ
ABOUT IT, BUT WHEN YOU'RE
WALKING THROUGH IT IN THE
REALITY OF DAY-TO-DAY
LIFE, IT CAN FEEL SO
OVERWHELMING.
HOW DOES A WOMAN BEGIN TO
KNOW HER TRUE IDENTITY?
IT DID FOR ME WHEN THE
LORD WAS SHOWING ME I WAS
LOST IN THE MIDDLE OF
THAT.
I THINK WHEN WOMEN ARE
PULLED EMOTIONALLY AND
TIME-WISE, WE DEFAULT TO
MOTHERHOOD BECAUSE WE
THINK, HUSBAND WILL
UNDERSTAND, GOD WILL
UNDERSTAND, AND THE LORD
WAS SHOWING ME THAT IS
GOING TO MAKE YOUR HOUSE
FALL.
YOU CAN'T JUST FOCUS ON
MOTHERHOOD.
I'LL NEVER FORGET WHEN HE
SAID TO ME, DEVON, YOU'LL
HAVE TO BE A GOOD DAUGHTER
BEFORE YOU'LL EVER BEEN A
GOOD MOTHER.
I'M A DAUGHTER BEFORE I'M
A WIFE OR A MOTHER.
AND GETTING GROUNDED IN
THAT IDENTITY WILL HELP
MOTHERHOOD AND BEING A
WIFE FLOW MORE EFFECTIVELY
EFFECTIVELY.
Terry: I THINK ALL
PEOPLE DO THIS, BUT I
THINK WOMEN DO THIS A LOT,
MAYBE BECAUSE THE CULTURAL
PRESSURE TO LOOK A CERTAIN
WAY, BE A CERTAIN WAY.
HOW DO WE KEEP FROM
COMPARING OURSELVES FROM
EACH OTHER BECAUSE THAT
CAN BE A DEVASTATING
THING?
IT IS.
THE PATH OF COMPARISON IS
A CYCLE MANY WOMEN FIND
THEMSELVES IN.
I ACTUALLY TALK ABOUT IT
IN THE BOOK.
I USE THE EXAMPLE OF DEBRA
AND J.L., AND THEY WERE
TWO WOMEN THAT GOD
ACTUALLY USED BOTH OF THEM
TO CHANGE A NATION.
I RELATE MORE TO J.L., WHO
WAS IN HER TENT, PROBABLY
SAYING, DEBRA IS SO
AWESOME, WHY CAN'T I BE
HERE.
AND DEBRA WHO WAS THE
LEADER, BUT DID NOT WIN
THE BATTLE.
IT WAS J.L. WHO ACTUALLY
WON THE BATTLE.
SOME ARE IN THE WORK
FORCE, SOME AT HOME, AND
SUCCESS IS NOT DEFINED BY
WHAT WE'RE DOING, BUT IT
IS BY WALKING IN
OBEDIENCE.
WE CANNOT COMPARE
OURSELVES OR EVEN OUR
PARENTING STRATEGIES TO
OTHER.
OUR CHILDREN ARE UNIQUE,
AND GOD HAS A UNIQUE
DESIGN FOR EACH OF US AND
AN ASSIGNMENT FOR EACH US.
Terry: WHAT'S THE
MOST SIGNIFICANT PIECE OF
ADVICE YOU HAVE EVER
RECEIVED FROM ANYONE?
WHATEVER IS EASY AND
CONVENIENT IS NOT ALWAYS
BEST.
I ACTUAL TELL MOTHERS THAT
CONVENIENCE IS AN ENEMY TO
KINGDOM PARENTING.
WE'RE TOLD TO DO WHATEVER
IS QUICKEST, AND WE'RE
ROBBING OUR CHILDREN.
JUST LIKE GOING THROUGH A
FAST FOOD RESTAURANT ROBS
US OF NUTRIENTS, SOME OF
OUR PARENTING SKILLS IS
ROBBING CHILDREN OF WHAT
IS NEEDED.
Terry: PEOPLE WHO
READ YOUR BOOK, MOMS WHO
READ YOUR BOOKS, BECAUSE
WE'RE ALWAYS LOOKING FOR
ADVICE THAT WILL HELP YOU
WALK MORE DEEPLY AND LIVE
MORE EFFECTIVELY -- WHAT
IS THE TAKE ANYWHERE YOU
WAN-AWAY YOU WANTTHEM TO HAVE?
HEAVEN IS WATCHING THEM
AND DEPENDING ON THEM.
THIS NATION WILL CHANGE, I
BELIEVE, WHEN THE MOMS
CHANGE AND WHEN WE WAKE
UP.
THE TAKE-AWAY IS THAT
PARENTING STRATEGY ISN'T
ACTUALLY FOUND IN A BOOK.
IT IS FOUND IN SURRENDER
TO HEAVEN AND IN PRAYER
AND IN WALKING WITH
OBEDIENCE TO HIM.
Terry: WE'RE LOOKING
AT A BEAUTIFUL PICTURE OF
YOUR FAMILY, YOUR HUSBAND
AND CHILDREN.
DEVON WALLACE'S BOOK IS
AVAILABLE WHEREVER BOOKS
ARE SOLD.
IF YOU'RE A MOM AND YOU'RE
STRUGGLING TO KNOW YOUR
OWN TRUE IDENTITY, OR EVEN
HOW TO RAISE YOUR CHILDREN
TO KNOW THEIRS, THIS IS A
GREAT SOURCE OF WISDOM AND
INFORMATION.
I ENCOURAGE YOU TO GET IT.
THANK YOU, DEVON.
THANK YOU SO MUCH.
IT IS AN HONOR TO BE HERE.
Gordon: UP NEXT, SHE
WEIGHED HER OPTIONS, AND
FOR VERNA, THE DECISION
WAS EASY.
BEING A MOTHER WITH TWO
KIDS, GETTING SOCIAL
SERVICE AND FOOD STAMPS
AND STUFF LIKE THAT, I
SAID, $100 DANCING TO A
THREE-MINUTE SONG, I'M IN.
Gordon: VERNA MASTON
JUST WANTED TO BE KNOWN
AND ACCEPTED.
SHE BECAME KNOWN AS
"STAR," A STRIPPER WITH
NOTORIETY.
BUT WHEN SHE HAD
EVERYTHING SHE THOUGHT SHE
WANTED, SHE REALIZED IT
WAS ALL A LIE.
I I WAS HAVING A GOOD
TIME DRINKING AND GETTING
HIGH AND SELLING DRUGS AND
BEING PROMISCUOUS.
Reporter: PLEASURE
AND POWER WERE ALL THAT
VERNA CARED ABOUT.
THE REASON FOR HER
LIFESTYLE CHOICES GO BACK
TO HER CHILDHOOD, WHEN SHE
WAS ONE OF 14 KIDS.
I FELT OVERLOOKED.
I WANTED THE LOVE AND
VALIDATION FROM MY MOM AND
MY DAD.
AND MY DAD NEVER SAID THAT
I LOVE YOU.
Reporter: AT THE
HANDS OF FAMILY MEMBERS,
VERNA WAS MOLESTED AS A
LITTLE GIRL AND RAPED AT
AGE 14.
THOUGH SHE TOLD HER
PARENTS, THEY DECIDED TO
SWEEP IT UNDER THE RUG.
I DIDN'T FEEL AS THOUGH
IT WAS MY FAULT.
I JUST FELT HURT AND
BETRAYED AND ABANDONED.
THE HURT TURNED INTO
REBELLION, VIOLENCE.
A PERSON DIDN'T TAKE NO
STUFF OFF OF NOBODY,
ESPECIALLY A MALE.
Reporter: AT 16,
VERNA STARTED GOING TO
CHURCH AGAIN, HOPING
SOMEONE WOULD LOVE HER.
INSTEAD SHE GOT PREGNANT
BY A YOUNG MAN THERE AND
WAS SHUNNED.
AND THEY TOLD ME I HAD
TO GET MARRIED OR I WAS
GOING TO DIE AND GO TO
HELL.
AND I WAS, LIKE, WELL, I
DON'T EVEN LIKE THE GUY.
I KNOW I'M PREGNANT.
I JUST WANT TO KEEP MY
BABY.
Reporter: THEY
MARRIED, BUT AFTER A FEW
YEARS AND ANOTHER CHILD,
THE MARRIAGE FAILED.
FROM VERNA'S PERSPECTIVE,
SO DID THE CHURCH AND GOD.
I SAID, I DON'T WANT
NOTHING TO DO WITH GOD,
AND I'M NOT GOING TO
CHURCH ANYMORE.
I DON'T WANT TO HEAR
NOTHING ABOUT GOD.
I DON'T WANT TO HEAR
ANYTHING.
Reporter: FOR YEARS,
VERNA SCRAPED BY AS A
SINGLE MOM UNTIL A FRIEND
CONVINCED HER SHE COULD
MAKE MONEY AS A STRIPPER.
BEING A MOTHER WITH TWO
KIDS, GETTING SOCIAL
SERVICE AND FOOD STAMPS
AND STUFF LIKE THAT, I
SAID, $100 TO DANCE TO A
THREE-MINUTE SONG, I'M IN.
Reporter: IN NO TIME
SHE REASONED HER WAY INTO
A NEW CAREER.
CAN FEED MY KIDS.
I CAN PAY MY BILLS.
I CAN BUY ALL KIND OF
CLOTHES AND DIFFERENT
TYPES OF CARS, AND I CAN
TRAVEL ALL OVER THE WORLD.
SO THAT THOUGHT WENT OUT
THE WINDOW, THAT WAS
SLEAZY, IT WAS DISGUSTING.
IT SLIPPED INTO, I'M GOING
TO MAKE A LOT OF MONEY.
Reporter: AND SHE
DID.
VERNA BUILT A HUGE
BUSINESS AS AN EXOTIC
DANCER, DRUG DEALER, AND
MADAM, GOING BY THE NAME
"STAR."
WHILE IT WAS ALL VERY
LUCRATIVE, THERE WAS MORE
IN IT FOR HER THAN MONEY.
WORTH.
IT GAVE ME A SENSE OF
WORTH LATER ON.
EVERYWHERE I WENT, HAD A
LOT OF RESPECT.
Reporter: AND IT MET
ANOTHER NEED THAT VERNA
CARRIED FROM HER PAINFUL
CHILDHOOD.
I THINK IT WAS
IMPORTANT BECAUSE NO ONE
WOULD BE ABLE TO VIOLATE
ME.
WITH TWO GUNS ON MY HIP,
YOU KNOW, THAT ALSO
HELPED.
Reporter: VERNA SAID
SHE HAD PAINS OF GUILT
ALONG THE WAY, BUT THEY
WERE EASILY SUBDUED WITH
DRUGS AND ALCOHOL.
THEY WAS ENJOYING IT ALL.
BUT BY 2002, VERNA STARTED
TO SENSE GOD CALLING HER
OUT OF IT.
SHE TRIED TO IGNORE HIS
VOICE, UNTIL ONE NIGHT, IN
THE MIDDLE OF A SET --
WE WERE AT A STRIP BAR,
A BUNCH OF MEN RAINING
DOWN 50s OVER YOUR HEAD,
AND YOU'RE TRYING TO
DANCE, AND TRYING TO DROP
IT LIKE IT IS HOT.
Reporter: SHE SAYS
GOD TOLD HER TO LEAVE
RIGHT THEN.
VERNA STOPPED DANCING AND
RAN TO THE BATHROOM.
AND THEN THE LORD SPOKE
TO ME WHILE I WAS SITTING
RIGHT THERE.
SHE TOLD ME TO COME OUT
FROM AMONG THEM AND BE YEE
SEPARATED.
Reporter: BUT LETTING
GO OF HER LIFESTYLE WASN'T
AS EASY AS SHE THOUGHT.
THE MONEY, BECAUSE THAT
WAS A LOT OF MONEY, AND IT
WAS THE WORTH, TOO.
Reporter: WITHIN
WEEKS, THE GROWING
CONVICTION THAT VERNA FELT
BROUGHT HER TO A
CROSSROADS.
SHE HOLED UP IN HER HOUSE
FOR SIX WEEKS, POURING
OVER GOD'S WORD.
WHEN I TOOK
RESPONSIBILITY, THAT'S
WHEN I SAID, LORD, I WANT
YOU TO COME INTO MY LIFE.
I REPENT OF MY SINS, AND
SAVE ME.
BECAUSE THE PRIDE HAD ME
SO I'M ALL RIGHT, BUT I
WASN'T ALL RIGHT.
I WAS LOST.
Reporter: VERNA FOUND
OVER TIME THAT GOD WAS
ABLE TO MEET HER DEEPEST
NEEDS IN A WAY HER PAST
LIFESTYLE NEVER COULD.
SEX COULDN'T FILL IT,
DRUGS COULDN'T FILL IT,
ALCOHOL, MONEY -- THE ONLY
THING THAT COULD FILL THAT
VOID WAS THE LOVE OF JESUS
CHRIST.
AND ONCE I STARTED
EMBRACING HIS LOVE, ALL
THAT OTHER STUFF SLOWLY
DISSIPATED.
Reporter: VERNA IS
NOW AN EVANGELIST AND
REMARRY.
SHE AND GARLAND ENJOY EACH
OTHER, HER DAUGHTERS, AND
GRANDCHIDS, AND ESPECIALLY
SHARING THE TRUTH OF GOD
WITH OTHERS.
AND I FOUND MY WORTH IN
JESUS CHRIST.
IT'S IN HIM THAT I MOVE
AND LIVE AND HAVE MY
BEING.
Gordon: AND YOU CAN
FIND YOUR WORTH IN HIM.
YOU CAN KNOW IN YOUR
INNERMOST BEING THAT
YOU'RE WORTH THE PRICE
THAT HE PAID FOR YOU.
THAT HE PAID ALL OF IT.
HE PAID WITH HIS OWN SOUL.
HE DIED ON A CROSS FOR
YOU.
AND IF YOU WERE THE ONLY
ONE TO EVER BELIEVE IT, HE
STILL WOULD HAVE COME FOR
YOU.
HE STILL WOULD HAVE PAID
THAT PRICE.
THAT'S HOW MUCH YOU'RE
WORTH, AND THAT'S HOW MUCH
HE LOVES YOU.
YOU'RE UNIQUELY MADE.
THERE IS NO ONE ELSE IN
THE UNIVERSE LIKE YOU.
AND GOD LOVES YOU SO MUCH
HE WOULD GIVE ANYTHING TO
RESTORE A RELATIONSHIP
WITH YOU.
TO HAVE YOU WITH HIM FOR
ALL ETERNITY THAT'S THE
WHOLE MESSAGE OF THE
GOSPEL.
THAT'S THE GOOD NEWS.
NEWS THAT THE WORLD HAS
NEVER HEARD BEFORE.
NEWS THAT MAKES
CHRISTIANITY UNLIKE ANY
OTHER RELIGION.
ALL OF THE OTHER ONES ARE
CONCERNED WITH HOW CAN YOU
PERFECT YOURSELF ENOUGH SO
THAT GOD WOULD PAY
ATTENTION TO YOU?
CAN YOU DO ENOUGH RIGHT
THINGS?
CAN YOU THINK ENOUGH RIGHT
THOUGHTS?
CAN YOU GO OFF AND
RENOUNCE THE WORLD AND
LIVE ON A MOUNTAIN
SOMEWHERE AND SPEND ALL OF
YOUR TIME MEDITATING IN IN
PRAYER?
NO.
CHRISTIANITY COMES AT IT
IN A WHOLE NEW WAY.
GOD COMES DOWN TO YOU AND
SAYS, I WANT YOU FOR ALL
ETERNITY.
AND HERE IS VERNA, SHE IS
IN THE MIDDLE OF SIN.
SHE KNOWS IT'S SIN.
YES, THERE ARE A LOT OF
REASONS FOR IT: HURT,
REJECTION, ABANDONMENT,
HURT BY THE CHURCH -- ALL
OF THOSE REASONS.
BUT IN THE MIDDLE OF HER
SIN, GOD COMES TO HER AND
SAYS, SEPARATE.
COME OUT AND BE WITH ME.
AND WHERE YOU ARE RIGHT
NOW, HE IS SAYING THE SAME
THING.
SEPARATE, COME OUT, BE
WITH ME.
AND IF YOU'LL JUST ANSWER
THAT CALL, HE'LL COME FOR
YOU.
HE'LL BE FOR YOU.
AND HE'LL FORGIVE YOU.
HE'LL SET YOU FREE OF
ANYTHING YOU HAVE DONE
WRONG AND SET YOU ON THAT
NEW PATH.
> IF YOU WANT HELP WITH
THIS PRAYER, GIVE US A
CALL.
THE NUMBER IS ON THE
SCREEN, TOLL-FREE:
1-800-700-7000.
HERE IS A WORD FROM
ISAIAH: "ARISE, SHINE, FOR
YOUR LIGHT HAS COME.
AND THE GLORY OF THE LORD
HAS RISEN UPON YOU."
LET GOD'S GLORY JUST RISE
ON YOU, REST ON YOU TODAY.
GOD BLESS YOU.