“God’s Not Dead 2†producer and actor David A.R. White shares his passion behind faith based films. Plus, a C.S. Lewis essay causes one atheist to question her beliefs.
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Efrem: AMERICA, THE
COMBAT ZONE.
CRIME HAS GOTTEN WORSE.
HEAR WHAT IS REALLY
BEHIND OUR COUNTRY'S
ALARMING SPIKE IN
VIOLENCE.
LET THE OFFICERS DO
THEIR JOBS.
PLUS...THE SEEK QUE SEQUEL TO
THE SURPRISE HIT.
WE'RE GOING TO PROVE
ONCE AND FOR ALL GOD'S NOT
DEAD.
CAREFUL, OR YOU MAY END
UP ON TRIAL.
TODAY ON "THE 700
CLUB."
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Pat: WELL, WELCOME,
LADIES AND GENTLEMEN.
THE GOVERNOR OF GEORGIA
BUCKLED UNDER THE PRESSURE
THAT WAS BEING PUT ON HIM
AS HE VETOED A BILL THAT
WOULD GUARANTEE RELIGIOUS
FREEDOM.
SO THAT PASTORS AND
FAITH-BASED GROUPS COULD
SAY WHAT THEY WANT TO SAY
ABOUT SEXUAL ACTIVITY.
THE NEXT TARGET FOR GAY
ACTIVISTS IS THE STATE OF
NORTH CAROLINA.
Terry: THE POWERFUL
COALITION OF CORPORATE
LEADERS AND ACTIVISTS IS
FIGHTING TO UNDO A
BATHROOM BILL THERE.
THEY SAY IT IS ABOUT
EQUALITY, BUT CRITICS SAY
THEY'RE HARMING PEOPLE OF
FAITH AND THE PUBLIC GOOD.
EFREM GRAHAM REPORTS.
Efrem: IN NORTH
CAROLINA, THE GOVERNOR
CALLED A SPECIAL SESSION
TO SET UP A STATE BATHROOM
POLICY FOR GOVERNMENT
BATHROOMS.
WE'RE GOING TO SET A
STATE-WIDE STANDARD FOR
WHO BELONGS IN WHICH
BATHROOM.
THIS WOULD BE THE MOST
SWEEPING ANTI-LGBT BILL IN
THE NATION.
GIRLS LIKE ME SHOULD
NEVER BE FORCED TO UNDRESS
OR SHOWER IN THE PRESENCE
OF BOYS.
Efrem: THE LAW
MANDATES GOVERNMENT
BATHROOMS BE SEPARATED
PRIMARILY BY BIOLOGICAL
SEX.
IT SOUNDS STRAIGHTFORWARD,
BUT THE NATIONAL OUTCRY
HAS BEEN FIERCE.
THE MAYORS OF SETTLE, SAN
FRANCISCO, AND THE
GOVERNOR OF NEW YORK HAVE
BANNED NON-ESSENTIAL
PUBLICLY-FUNDED TRAVEL TO
NORTH CAROLINA.
AND THE NBA IS THREATENING
TO MOVE ITS 2017 ALL-STAR
GAME OUT OF CHARLOTTE.
IN GEORGIA THIS WEEK, THAT
KIND OF CORPORATE PRESSURE
LED TO THE GOVERNOR TO
VETO A WATERED DOWN BILL.
THE BILL PROVIDED
PROTECTION TO PASTORS WHO
DON'T WANT TO PERFORM
SAME-SEX WEDDINGS, BUT NOT
FOR WEDDING VENDORS WHO
DON'T WANT TO SERVE THEM.
BUT HIGH-POWERED
CORPORATIONS FROM NETFLIX
TO TIME WARNER AND DISNEY
THREATENED TO LEAVE
GORBACHEGEORGIA IF THE GOVERNOR
SIGNED THE BILL.
I DO NOT THINK WE HAVE
TO DISCRIMINATE AGAINST
ANYONE TO PROTECT THE
FAITH-BASED COMMUNITY IN
GEORGIA.
EVERYONE THAT I SPOKE
TO IS OUTRAGED.
WE REALLY ARE.
WE ARE SURPRISED THAT
GOVERNOR DEAL WOULD BOW
DOWN TO HOLLYWOOD, THE
NFL.
Efrem: PASTOR GARLAND
HUNT SAYS LEADERS ARE NOW
RALLYING TO REVERSE WHAT
THE GORGE HA GOVERNOR HAS DONE.
IN NORTH CAROLINA, THEY'RE
HOPING THAT THE GOVERNOR
WILL NOT GIVE IN, DESPITE
ENORMOUS PRESSURE TO
REVERSE THE NEW LAW.
EFREM GRAHAM, CBN NEWS.
Pat: IN CANADA, IN
QUEBEC, THEY HAVE SIGNS IN
FRENCH, ONE SAYS "FEM,"
AND THE OTHER SAYS "OM."
AND THE CHILD OF ONE OF MY
FRIENDS SAID, AM I A FEMI
OR A OMI BECAUSE HE DIDN'T
KNOW THE DIFFERENCE.
THIS IS THE GREATEST
NATION ON EARTH.
WE HAVE DEJE DEGENERATED BEYOND
MEASURE.
THIS KIND OF THING IS JUST
ABSURD.
AND WE'RE MAKING A BIG
CIVIL RIGHTS THING.
AND THE FACT THAT THE NFL,
SUPPOSEDLY A BUNCH OF
MAN-SIZED WARRIORS, ARE
OUT ON THE FIELD AND
THEY'RE SAYING WE WANT
HOMOSEXUALS TO BE OUR
HEROS AND WE'RE GOING TO
FIGHT FOR THEM.
AND IF THE CHRISTIANS --
IF YOU CAN CRITICIZE THEM,
THEN WE'RE NOT GOING TO
NORTH CAROLINA.
WE WON'T GO TO VIRGINIA OR
GEORGIA OR WHEREVER.
THE LAW SAYS THAT
CHRISTIANS HAVE A RIGHT TO
SPEAK OUT.
WE'RE NOT GOING TO
TOLERATE THAT BECAUSE
WE'RE NFL.
AND WE BEAT OUR CHEST.
AND THE WHOLE THING IS
ABSOLUTELY ABSURD.
IT MAKES ME SICK AT MY
STOMACH.
> LADIES AND GENTLEMEN,
I WAS IN CYPRUS, AND I MET
SOME YEARS AGO WITH
ARCHBISHOP MICARIUS, WHO
WAS THEN THE ARCHBISHOP OF
CYPRUS, AND THEY HAVE
NOTHING TO DO WITH EGYPT.
SO THIS CRAZY MAN IN EGYPT
HIJACKED A PLANE.
IT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE HE IS
PART OF THE MUSLIM
BROTHERHOOD.
IT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE IT
HAS ANYTHING TO DO WITH
TERRORISM.
THE MAN SAID, I'VE DONE IT
FOR LOVE BECAUSE MY
GIRLFRIEND IS IN CYPRUS.
JOHN JESSUP HAS MORE.
John: SOME
FRIGHTENING MOMENTS FOR
THE PASSENGERS AND CREW,
BUT OFFICIALS SAY THE
MOTIVE WASN'T TERROR.
BUT THE HIJACKER DID FORCE
THE PLANE TO FLY TO
CYPRUS, WHERE HE WAS LATER
ARRESTED.
IT RAISED MORE QUESTIONS
ABOUT AIRLINE SECURITY IN
THE REGION.
HERE IS DALE HURD WITH
MORE.
Reporter: AN EGYPTIAN
MAN HIJACKED A PLANE BOUND
FROM ALEXANDRA TO CRYER CAIRO
TODAY.
HE THREATENED TO BLOW IT
UP AND FORCED IT TO LAND
ON THE ISLAND OF CYPRUS.
HE WANTED TO CONTACT A
LOCAL WOMAN AND DELIVER A
MAN TO HER.
THE AUTHORITIES CONVINCED
THE MAN TO RELEASE MOST OF
THE PASSENGERS.
BUT FOUR PASSENGERS AND
THE FLIGHT CREW WERE HELD
ABOARD BEFORE THE ARREST.
THE REALITY IS THAT WE
HAVE A HIJACKER ON BOARD A
PLANE.
WE'RE NOT SURE WHETHER
WHAT HE HAS IS A TRUE BOMB
OR A THREAT TO THE
AIRCRAFT, BUT WE ARE
DEALING WITH AS A REAL
THREAT.
Reporter: THE
HIJACKING HIGHLIGHTS THE
ISSUE OF SAFETY AT
EGYPTIAN AIRPORTS ONCE
AGAIN.
FIVE MONTHS AGO A RUSSIAN
AIRCRAFT CRASHED AFTER
TAKING OFF FROM AN
EGYPTIAN RED SEA RESORT.
ISIS LATER CLAIMED
RESPONSIBILITY FOR THE
BOMB THAT TOOK DOWN THAT
PLANE.
DALE HURD, CBN NEWS.
John: THANKS, DALE.
> A JEWISH LEADER IN
BELGIUM SAYS LAST WEEK'S
BOMBINGS IN BRUSSELS COULD
BE LINKED TO INCREASED
ANTI-SEMITIC ATTACKS.
HE SAYS THE JEWS ARE THE
CANARY IN THE COAL MINE.
HE POINTS TO VIOLENT
ATTACKS AGAINST THE JEWISH
COMMUNITY THERE SINCE
2000, SAYING IT IS A SIGN
OF RISING RADICAL ISLAM.
AND AS CHRIS MITCHELL
REPORTS, OTHERS AGREE THAT
THE ROOTS OF THE BELGIAN
DANGER BEGAN A LONG TIME
AGO.
ROLLER WHEN ISLAMIC Chris: WHEN ISLAMIC
GROUPS TARGETED BRUSSELS,
FOR SOME IT WAS A TOTAL
SURPRISE, BUT FOR OTHERS
IT WASN'T.
DANIEL SAYS THE ROOTS OF
BELGIUM'S PROBLEMS GO FAR
BEYOND MARCH 22nd.
THE ROOTS ARE AN
IDEOLOGY THAT ARE
SPREADING AMONG THE MUSLIM
COMMUNITIES.
WHAT WE SEE HERE IS THAT A
NEXUS EXISTS BETWEEN
IDEOLOGY FUNDED AND
SPONSORED, AND IT GOES
BACK TO THE 1960s, ALL
ALREADY, BY SAUDI ARABIA.
Chris: THIS MOSQUE IN
THE HEART OF BRUSSELS IS
ONE EXAMPLE OF HOW MONEY
FROM SAUDI ARABIA AND
OTHER GULF COUNTRIES IS
BEING USED TO SPREAD
MUHAMMADISM, A SPREAD OF
ISLAM WHERE ISIS GOT ITS
ROOTS.
SOME SEE THIS WAY OF
SPREADING THE MUSLIM FAITH
IS EVEN MORE DANGEROUS
THAT THE IDEOLOGY OF THE
ISLAMIC STATE.
THEY HAVE REALLY
MANAGED TO TURN AROUND A
ONCE MODERATE MUSLIM
COMMUNITY TO WHAT IS NOW A
HOTBED FOR RADICAL ISLAM.
THE RELIGION OF ISLAM
IS MORE OF A POLITICAL
IDEOLOGY THAN A RELIGION
LIKE CHRISTIANITY OR
JUDAISM, YEAH, WE KIND OF
EMBRACED IT.
Reporter: WHEN
BELGIUM AND THE REST OF
EUROPE ENACTED ITS OPEN
DOOR POLICY, IT DIDN'T
REALIZE THE CONSEQUENCES.
YOU CAN BUILD YOUR
MOSQUES AND BUILD YOUR
QURAN AND WORSHIP YOUR GOD
HERE.
THAT WAS A MAJOR MISTAKE
BECAUSE SOONER OR LATER
SHAR'IA LAW WILL FOLLOW
SOONER OR LATER.
Chris: AND HE WARNS
THE PROBLEM RUNS VERY
DEEP.
WE HAVE CITIES IN
BELGIUM AND THE REST OF
EUROPE WHERE MUSLIMS ARE A
MAJORITY.
AND THESE CITIES AND AREAS
ARE REALLY ISLAMIZED.
IF YOU WALK THERE AS A
WOMAN, NOT DRESSED IN A
MUSLIM WAY, THEN THE
CHANCES ARE BIG THAT YOU
WILL GET HARASSED OR
ATTACKED OR WHATEVER.
OR IF YOU'RE A JEW WALKING
THERE, THEN THE CHANCES
ARE YOU WILL GET ATTACKED.
THAT IS ISLAMIZATION.
Chris: THE JEWS OF
BELGIUM ARE PARTICULARLY
CONCERNED.
YOU DON'T HAVE AN
EVENING WITH FRIENDS
WITHOUT SOMEONE RAISING
THE ISSUE: SHOULD WE STAY?
CAN WE STAY?
DON'T WE HAVE A
RESPONSIBILITY TOWARDS OUR
CHILDREN?
IS THERE A FUTURE FOR THEM
IN THIS COUNTRY, WHERE OUR
PARENTS PUT DOWN THEIR
LINEAGE?
WE HAVE BEEN FACING THOSE
ATTACKS BECAUSE JEWS ARE
USUALLY THE FIRST TARGETS,
BUT NEVER THE ONLY TARGET.
Chris: THIS PERSON
SAYS THE ULTIMATE GOAL OF
THESE VIOLENT ATTACKS AND
ISLAMIZATION IS GLOBAL
ISLAM.
IT IS TO CREATE A
CALIPHATE.
IN THEIR MIND, CLEARLY
THERE NEEDS TO BE AN
ISLAMIC RULE CERTAINLY IN
WHAT IS NOW THE MUSLIM
WORLD, BUT EVEN BEYOND.
AT THE END OF THE DAY,
THEY BELIEVE THAT BELGIUM
AND BRITAIN AND THE UNITED
STATES NEED TO BE PART OF
IT.
THERE IS ONLY ONE TRUTH IN
THEIR MIND.
Chris: CHRIS
MITCHELL, CBN NEWS,
BRUSSELS, BELGIUM.
John: PAT, WE'VE BEEN
REPORTING ON THE RISE OF
ANTI-SEMITISM THROUGHOUT
EUROPE.
Pat: THIS WHOLE THING
HAS GOT TO BE UNDERSTOOD.
PEOPLE ARE SAYING, WHY DO
THEY HATE US?
WHAT HAVE WE DONE TO THEM?
WE HAVEN'T DONE ANYTHING
TO THEM.
IT IS BASED INTO THEIR
RELIGIOUS BELIEF.
IT IS IN THE QURAN.
IT IS CLEARLY PASSAGE
AFTER PASSAGE THAT SAYS TO
THE FAITHFUL, YOU MUST BEE
BIEBELEAGUER THEM.
THE WHOLE THING IS IN
THEIR TEACHING.
YOU GO TO A RADICAL
MOSQUE, AND THEY TEACH
THAT SATURDAY AFTER
SATURDAY, SUNDAY AFTER
SUNDAY, WHATEVER.
AND THAT'S WHAT THEY
BELIEVE.
IN ADDITION TO THAT, THEY
ARE TAUGHT THAT THEIR
DESTINY IS WORLD
DOMINATION.
SO IT IS NOT MERELY A
RELIGION.
IT IS ALSO A POLITICAL
SYSTEM BASED ON THE QURAN,
BASED ON THE TEACHINGS OF
MUHAMMAD, AND BASED ON
WHAT IS CALLED SHAR'IA
LAW.
THEY WANT A CALIPHATE.
THEY WANT TO DOMINATE THE
WORLD.
NOW, DON'T SAY WHAT HAVE
WE DONE TO OFFEND THEM?
WE HAVEN'T DONE ANYTHING
TO OFFEND THEM.
THIS IS BUILT INTO THEIR
ENTIRE BELIEF SYSTEM.
SO WE WELCOME THEM AS THE
BELGIANS HAVE, INTO OUR
MIST, AND WHAT WE HAVE
DONE IS TAKE A COBRA INTO
OUR BOSOM, AND SOONER OR
LATER THE COBRA IS GOING
TO BITE YOU BECAUSE THAT
IS THEIR NATURE.
NOT WHAT DID YOU DO TO
MAKE THE COBRA MAD.
IT IS A COBRA.
THESE PEOPLE ARE INTENT ON
DESTROYING THE WEST.
LIKE IT OR NOT, THAT'S
WHAT WE'RE FACED WITH.
BUT THE GOVERNMENT,
APPARENTLY, HAS FAILED TO
RECOGNIZE THAT.
THE GOVERNMENTS OF EUROPE
HAVE POLITICAL
CORRECTNESS.
THEY WILL NOT SAY IT.
THEY WILL NOT SPEAK ITS
NAME.
THEY WILL NOT TALK ABOUT
ISLAMIC TERROR.
THEY WON'T DO IT FOR FEAR
THEY MAY OFFEND SOMEBODY.
Terry: AND HERE
YOU'RE SEEING PEOPLE FROM
BELGIUM WHO ARE SAYING, WE
MADE A MISTAKE.
WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS
TRUE, WE DON'T SEEM TO BE
WILLING TO LEARN FROM
THAT.
IS THERE A RECOURSE, ONCE
YOU HAVE ALLOWED THIS TO
HAPPEN?
Pat: WELL, WHAT
DONALD TRUMP SAID,
EVERYBODY WAS HORRIFIED
WITH.
BUT BASICALLY HE SAID,
KEEP THEM FROM COMING OVER
HERE.
AND IF EUROPE IS GOING TO
WELCOME THESE PEOPLE BY
THE TENS OF THOUSANDS, AND
THEY'VE GOT A HUGE
POPULATION -- AND AS THE
MAN SAID ON THAT PIECE,
THEY'RE WHOLE COMMUNITIES
NOW THAT ARE ISLAMIC.
AND WHEN THEY HAVE A
MAJORITY, THEY'RE GOING TO
TAKE CONTROL.
AND THEY'RE GOING TO
ENFORCE THEIR WAY.
UNTIL THEY HAVE A
MAJORITY, THEY'RE ASKING
FOR ALL KINDS OF THINGS.
WHEN THEY HAVE A MAJORITY,
THEY'LL DOMINATE.
THE ONLY WAY TO DO IT
WOULD INVOLVE DRACONIAN
MEASURES THAT INVOLVE
DEPORTING MILLIONS OF
PEOPLE.
AND EUROPE NEEDS TO DO
SOMETHING ABOUT IT OR
THEIR ENTIRE COMMUNITY
WILL BE TORN APART.
John: PAT, THE F.B.I.
HAS SUCCESSFULLY HACKED
INTO THE IN
ENCRYPTED iPHONE OF ONE
OF THE SAN BERNARDINO
TERRORISTS.
THE F.B.I. WILL NOW DROP
THE LAWSUIT IT FILED TO
FORCE APPLE'S COOPERATION,
AND AGENTS ARE NOW
ANALYZING THE INFORMATION.
> CUBA'S FORMER
DICTATOR, FIDEL CASTRO,
HAS WRITTEN A HARSH
RESPONSE TO OBAMA VISIT
RECENT VISIT.
HE OPENLY CRITICIZES HIM
IN A SHARP-TONGUED LETTER.
HE DISMISSES HIS EFFORTS
TO LEAVE THE PAST BEHIND.
AND HE CRITICIZES OBAMA'S
MOVES TO INCREASE
BUSINESS, AND HE SAID,
QUOTE,"WE DON'T NEED THE
EMPIRE TO ACCOMPLISH
ANYTHING."
AND MANY SAY HE IS OUT OF
TOUCH WITH WHAT CUBANS
WANT.
Pat: HE IS OUT OF
TOUCH WITH EVERYTHING.
HE IS A SICK OLD MAN,
WHO'S TIME IS COME AND
GONE.
NEVERTHELESS, THAT IS THE
BACK OF THE HAND TO OUR
PRESIDENT, WHO WENT WITH
STARS IN HIS EYES.
HE THOUGHT, I'M GOING TO
OPEN UP CUBA.
I'M GOING TO BRING
GOODWILL TO OUR PEOPLE.
THAT'S THE RESPONSE HE
GOT.
NOBODY CAME OUT TO THE
MEET HIM AT THE AIRPORT.
NEITHER RAUL OR FIDEL CAME
TO MEET HIM.
THAT WAS A SLAP IN THE
FACE.
AND THIS IS A FURTHER SLAP
IN THE FACE, BUT OBAMA IS
DETERMINED THAT HE IS GONE
TO EMBRACE OUR COMMUNIST
BUDDIES.
TERRY?
Terry: WELL, COMING
UP, THE CRIME WAVE ACROSS
AMERICA AS POLICEMEN SAY
IT IS GETTING HARDER FOR
THEM TO DO THEIR JOBS.
THEY REALIZE IF THEY DO
THEIR JOBS, THEY'RE GOING
TO BE VILIFIED IN THE
MEDIA.
AND THEY'RE NOT GOING TO
DO THEIR JOB AS VIGOROUSLY
AS BEFORE.
Terry: HEAR HOW THE
POLICE PLAN TO PROTECT
YOU, WHEN WE RETURN.
Pat: I WANT TO SAY AT
THE FIRST OF THIS, I AM
PRO-POLICE.
I'M FOR OUR ARMED FORCES.
I THINK THAT WE OWE THEM A
DEBT.
THESE ARE BRAVE MEN AND
WOMEN WHO ARE KEEPING US
SAFE AND REPRESSING EVIL.
I AM NOT FOR POLICE
BRUTALITY.
I'M NOT FOR PUTTING UP
FENCES.
I'M NOT FOR PEOPLE BEING
RAILROADED INTO JAIL.
I THINK SOME OF THAT IS
APPALLING.
BUT WHAT I DO THINK IS
THAT WE OWE THE POLICE A
DEBT OF GRATITUDE, AND
THEY NEED TO BE HONORED
AND RESPECTED.
WELL, THEY'RE NOT ANYMORE
IN SO MANY CITIES, AND
THEY CALL IT THE,
QUOTE,"FERGUSON EFFECT," A
GROWING ANIMOSITY AGAINST
THE POLICE IN THE
COMMUNISTS THEY HAVE BEEN
PLACED TO SERVE.
THEY ENDURE INTENSE
SCRUTINY.
AND THEY'RE FACING A SPIKE
IN VIOLENCE.
AND SOME SAY THE THIN BLUE
LINE IS BEING STRETCHED TO
THE BREAKING POINT.
Reporter: JOE COLLINS
IS A HUSBAND AND FATHER OF
TWO BOYS, WHO LIVES IN
BLACKSBURG, VIRGINIA.
HE IS A VETERAN OF BOTH
THE MARINES AND THE U.S.
ARMY.
OUR VEHICLE WAS HIT 11
TIMES.
AND OUR COMPANY WAS HIT
APPROXIMATELY 150 TIMES.
Reporter: WHEN JOE
RETURNED FROM IRAQ, HE
FELT LIKE LAW ENFORCEMENT
WAS ONE PLACE WHERE HE
COULD CONTINUE TO SERVE.
OBVIOUSLY, YOU'VE GOT A
LOT OF VETERANS COMING
BACK.
THEY'RE GETTING OUT OF THE
MILITARY AND THEY'RE
LOOKING FOR SOMETHING WITH
THAT SAME TYPE
BROTHERHOOD.
Reporter: HE LOVE THE
14 YEARS HE SPENT AS A
COP, BUT HE SAYS POLICE
WORK IS BECOMING
INCREASINGLY DANGEROUS.
IT IS GETTING WORSE.
THAT MEANS IT IS GETTING
MORE DANGEROUS FOR THE MEN
IN BROWN AND BLUE AND
WHATEVER UNIFORM THEY
WEAR.
Reporter: POLICE
FORCE HAS ALWAYS BEEN A
TOUGH JOB, AND NO ONE SAYS
COPS ARE PERSON.
BUT VIOLENCE AGAINST LAW
ENFORCEMENT IS RISING.
SO FAR IN 2016, OFFICER
DEATHS BY SHOOTING ARE UP
300% FROM THE PREVIOUS
YEAR, WITH A MARKED
INCREASE IN AMBUSH-STYLE
AFFECTS.
IN FEBRUARY, ASHLEY
GRENDON WAS MURDERED
RESPONDING TO A
DISTURBANCE IN VIRGINIA,
IT WAS HER FIRST DAY ON
THE JOB.
SHE WAS THE 10th OFFICER
TO DIE IN THE LINE OF DUTY
IN FEBRUARY.
POLICE OFTEN HAVE TO MAKE
SPLIT-SECOND DECISIONS,
AND WITH CELL PHONES AND
SURVEILLANCE CAMERAS
EVERYWHERE, MANY COPS FEEL
THEIR NEXT CALL COULD END
UP AS A VIRAL VIDEO,
POSSIBLY ENDING THEIR
CAREER, AND EVEN THEIR
LIFE.
MIKE COWEN IS A S.W.A.T.
OFFICER IN MISSISSIPPI.
THERE IS CERTAINLY SOME
HESITATION, AND I'M A FIRM
BELIEVER THAT HESITATION
WILL GET YOU KILLED.
THERE IS A CERTAIN
WILLINGNESS TO LET THINGS
SLIDE A LITTLE MORE, AND
IT'S NOT WORTH TRYING TO
EXPLAIN YOURSELF BECAUSE
THEY'RE CONCERNED WITH
WHAT THE PRESS IS GOING TO
DO WITH IT.
Reporter: MICHAEL
WOOD IS AN AUTHOR AND
CONTRIBUTOR TO THE WEBSITE
"POLICE WON."
I THINK THERE IS A LACK
OF SUPPORT OF OFFICERS ARE
GETTING TODAY, COMPARED TO
WHAT THEIR GRANDFATHERS
HAD SEVERAL GENERATIONS
BEFORE.
IT HAS A CHILLING
EFFECT ON THESE OFFICERS
WHEN THEY REALIZE IF THEY
DO THEIR JOB, THEY'RE
GOING TO BE VILIFIED IN
THE MEDIA AND THEY'RE NOT
GOING TO BE SUPPORTED BY
THEIR AGENCIES.
WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT
SOME OF THESE BIG
NATIONWIDE EVENTS AND ALL
OF THE PRESS THEY'VE
GOTTEN, ONE OF THE THINGS
THAT SEEMS TO GET LOST ON
THE MEDIA IS THESE GUYS
ARE CRIMINALS AND THEY
WERE RESISTING LAW
ENFORCEMENT.
THE LARGE PERCENTAGE OF
LAW ENFORCEMENT, AS A
WHOLE ACROSS THE NATION,
HAS THAT VERY FEELING.
I THINK THEY'RE VERY
FRUSTRATED.
I THINK THE TRUST FROM
THEIR GOVERNMENT, THE
TRUST FROM THEIR OWN CHAIN
OF COMMAND -- THEY'VE GOT
TO WONDER IF IT IS THERE.
Reporter: WITH
VIOLENCE RISING, TACTICS
AND EQUIPMENT WHICH WERE
DEVELOPED BY THE MILITARY
ARE NOW BEING USED TO MAKE
POLICING SAFER IN THE FACE
OF RISING VIOLENCE.
IT IS A MOVE MANY HAVE
CRITICIZED, INCLUDING THE
PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED
STATES.
President Obama: WE
HAVE SEEN HOW MILITARIZED
GEAR CAN SOMETIMES GIVE
PEOPLE THE FEELING LIKE
THERE IS A OCCUPYING
FORCE, AS OPPOSED TO A
FORCE THAT IS PART OF THE
COMMUNITY THAT IS
PROTECTING THEM AND
SERVING THEM, AND THEY CAN
AILNIATE PEOPLE.
Reporter: IT DOESN'T
NENECESSARY TELL THE WHOLE
STORY.
BATTLEFIELD TECHNOLOGISTS
DEVELOPED IN AFGHANISTAN
HAVE TRICKLED DOWN TO
POLICE DEPARTMENTS ACROSS
THE COUNTRY.
AND THAT MEANS AN OFFICER
INVOLVED IN A SHOOTING HAS
A MUCH BETTER CHANCE OF
SURVIVAL.
WHILE COPS ARE BEING
SUBJECTED TO INCREASING
RESTRICTIONS, THEY'RE ALSO
BEING ASKED TO CARRY OUT A
WIDER RANGE OF DUTIES THAN
IN THE PAST.
WE WANT HIM TO BE AN
ENFORCER OF THE LAW.
WE WANT HIM TO BE AN
ATTORNEY.
WE WANT HIM TO A MARRIAGE
COUNSELLOR.
WE WANT HIM TO BE A FATHER
FIGURE TO SOMEBODY.
AND WE WANT HIM TO BE ABLE
TO TELL DIRECTIONS AT THE
SAME TIME WE WANT THEM TO
BE ABLE TO SHOOT SOMEBODY
TO PREVENT THEM FROM
KILLING YOUR FAMILY.
OUR JOB IS TO ENFORCE
THE LAW.
IF YOU DON'T LIKE THE
LAWS, VOTE IN SOMEBODY
DIFFERENT AND DO IT THAT
WAY.
LET THE OFFICERS DO
THEIR JOB, THAT PROVIDE
YOU THE SECURITY IN YOUR
HOME AT MIGHT.
Reporter: CHUCK
HOLTON, CBN NEWS.
Pat: AN EXCELLENT
PIECE, CHUCK.
YOU SEE THAT THING IN
FERGUSON.
HERE YOU HAVE A GREAT BIG,
OVER AGED, OR OVER-SIZED
TEENAGER, WHO IS HOPPED UP
ON SOME KIND OF STIMULANT.
AND HE GOES INTO A
CONVENIENCE STORE AND
STARTS ROBBING IT.
THEN HE HITS THE CLERK WHO
TRIES TO STOP HIM, AND
GOES WALKING DOWN THE
CENTER OF THE ROAD,
INTERFERING WITH TRAFFIC.
WHEN A POLICE OFFICER
TRIES TO APPREHEND HIM AND
STOP HIM FROM THAT KIND OF
CONDUCT, THIS BIG GUY IN
FERGUSON TRIES TO GET THE
COP'S GUN AWAY FROM HIM.
AND THEY END UP IN A
WRESTLING MATCH.
AND AT SOME POINT ALONG
THE WAY, THE COP SHOOTS
THIS SO-CALLED GIANT OF A
MAN.
WELL, HE'S BEEN BREAKING
THE LAW.
HE'S BEEN TERRORIZING
PEOPLE.
HE HAS BEEN ROBBING A
CONVENIENCE STORE.
AND THE COP SHOULD HAVE
DONE SOMETHING.
BUT WHAT COMES ON?
YOU HAVE PEOPLE FLYING IN
FROM NEW YORK CITY, A FAL
FALLYNX OF THESE
PROFESSIONAL AGITATORS,
AND THEY STIR UP PROBLEMS.
AND THEN YOU HAVE THESE
GREAT SIGNS, "BLACK LIVES
MATTER."
OF COURSE THEY MATTER.
OF COURSE THEY MATTER.
BUT NOT NECESSARILY AT THE
EXPENSE OF KILLING A
POLICEMAN BY SOMEBODY WHO
IS BREAKING THE LAW.
AND THAT'S WHAT FERGUSON
WAS ALL ABOUT, AND IT WAS
NO MORE THAN THAT.
AND AFTER A CAREFUL GRAND
JURY INVESTIGATION, THE
POLICEMAN WAS CLEARED OF
ALL CHARGES BECAUSE THEY
SAID WHAT HE DID WAS
JUSTIFIABLE.
THAT HAD STARTED A
MOVEMENT ALL ACROSS THE
COUNTRY WHERE THERE ARE
RIOTING IN THE STREETS.
AND IT'S THE US AGAINST
THEM MENTALITY.
WE NEED TO COME TOGETHER.
WE'VE GOT TO LOVE EACH
OTHER.
AND I THINK ONE OF THE
THINGS IS TO PUT THE
POLICE ON FOOT, ON FOOT
PATROLS, MAYBE RIDING
BICYCLES.
NOT RIDING AROUND IN SQUAD
CARS.
AND GETTING UP CLOSE AND
PERSONAL WITH THE PEOPLE
THAT THEY DEAL WITH, SO
THEY CAN GET TO BE FRIENDS
AND NOT ENEMIES.
BUT AS A NATION, WE MUST
RECOGNIZE WHAT ROMANS
SAID, THAT HE WHO BEARS
THE SWORD BEARS IT NOT IN
VAIN.
HE IS A MINISTER OF GOD.
THAT'S WHAT THE BIBLE
SAYS.
HE IS A MINISTER OF GOD,
TO BRING ABOUT
RIGHTEOUSNESS AND TO
RESTRAIN EVIL.
THAT'S WHAT HE IS THERE
FOR.
SO LET'S RESPECT THEM AND
HELP THEM.
AND IF THEY MISBEHAVE,
LET'S BRING THEM TO
JUSTICE.
BUT UNTIL THEY DO, LET'S
NOT RIOT AGAINST THEM.
TERRY?
Terry: WELL, COMING
UP, GOD GOES ON TRIAL.
AND THE VERDICT IS ONE
YOU'LL ONLY BE ABLE TO SEE
IN THE THEATERS.
WE'LL TAKE YOU INSIDE THE
NEW MOVIE "GOD'S NOT DEAD
2," WHEN WE COME BACK.
Terry: WHEN "GOD'S
NOT DEAD," WAS RELEASED IN
2014, IT BECAME AN INSTANT
BLOCKBUSTER.
IT TOLD THE STORY OF A
STUDENT WHO STOOD UP TO
HIS AGNOSTIC TEACHERS, AND
NOW IN THE SEQUEL, THE
TEACHER IS THE HERO.
TAKE A LOOK.
I HATE WHAT PEOPLE LIKE
YOUR CLIENT STAND FOR.
WE'RE GOING TO PROVE
ONCE AND FOR ALL THAT GOD
IS DEAD.
I GAVE AN HONEST ANSWER
TO A STUDENT'S QUESTION.
I'M NOT GOING TO BE AFRAID
TO SAY THE NAME JESUS.
THEY WANT TO MAKE AN
EXAMPLE OF YOU.
I DON'T LIKE TO LOSE.
I WOULD RATHER STAND
WITH GOD AND BE JUDGED BY
THE WORLD THAN STAND WITH
THE WORLD AND BE JUDGED BY
GOD.
GOD BLESS YOU.
CAREFUL, OR YOU MIGHT
END UP ON TRIAL.
*
Terry: WITH US NOW IS
DAVID A.R. WHITE, AND HE
IS A PRODUCER FOR "GOD'S
NOT DEAD," AND HE REPRISES
THE ROLE OF REVEREND
DAVID.
THANK YOU FOR HAVING
ME.
Terry: WERE YOU
SURPRISED AS THE SUCCESS
OF THE FIRST FILM?
YES.
I DON'T THINK EVERYBODY
KNOWS THAT.
Terry: YOU ROLE THE
DICE?
EXACTLY.
AND YOU PRAY.
AND WE DID A LOT OF
PRESCREENING IN THE
CHURCHES AND GRASSROOTS
MARKETING, AND EVERYBODY
GOT BEHIND IT.
IT IS, BY FAR, THE BIGGEST
SPAN OF GENERATIONS, FROM
YOUNG KIDS TO OLDER FOLKS,
THAT I'VE EVER DONE FOR A
MOVIE.
Terry: YEAH.
THE TEACHER WINDS UP IN
COURT, AND THAT'S A
SWITCH.
YUP.
Terry: HOW DID THAT
WHOLE CONCEPT COME TO BE?
THE THEMES OF THEM --
WE THOUGHT, IF WE GET A
CHANCE TO DO THREE OF
THESE, THE FIRST IS ABOUT
THE EXISTENCE OF GOD.
THE SECOND ONE IS ABOUT
JESUS CHRIST AND WHO IS
HE.
AND THE THIRD ONE WOULD BE
TALKING ABOUT THE INSPIRED
WORD OF GOD.
SO WE ALWAYS KIND OF KNEW
THAT WAS OUR BLUEPRINT
GOING INTO IT.
AND IN THE FIRST ONE, OF
COURSE, WE HAVE A MALE
LEAD.
AND WE WANTED TO FLIP IT
AND SHOW IT FROM MORE OF A
TEACHER'S PROSPECTIVE.
Terry: LET'S TALK
ABOUT THE FEMALE ROLE.
IT IS SABRINA, THE
TEENAGED WITCH.
THAT'S A LOT OF IRONY
IN THAT.
BUT MELISSA HAS COME OUT
MORE AND MORE ABOUT HER
FAITH.
AND SHE WAS PASSIONATE
ABOUT THE PROJECT AND THE
SCWIPT.
SCWIPT.
SCRIPT.
AND WE ALWAYS PRAY, WHO IS
GOING TO BE IN THESE
FILMS?
Terry: I ALWAYS
WONDERED, HOW DO THEY
DECIDE WHO THE PERSON IS
WHO IS GOING TO PLAY THIS
ROLE?
HOW MUCH EFFORT AND JOINT
DISCUSSION GOES INTO THAT?
WE HAVE GREAT CASTING
DIRECTORS.
BILLY AND ANDY, AND WE
THANK THEM.
WE PRAY FIRST AND FOREMOST
TO SEE WHO THE LORD BRINGS
IN AND WHO HE WANTS IN
THESE FILMS.
A LOT OF THE PEOPLE END UP
REJUVENATING THEIR WALK
WITH THE LORD, AND SOME
BECOME BELIEVERS WHO HAD
NEVER KNOWN CHRIST BEFORE.
YOU NEVER KNOW HOW THE
LORD WILL WORK IN IT.
Terry: DAVID, I'M
SURE THERE ARE PEOPLE IN
BOTH THE CHRISTIAN
COMMUNITY AND THE
NON-FAITH-BASED COMMUNITY
WHO SAY THESE FILMS ARE
PREACHING TO THE CHOIR,
YOU'RE JUST CONFIRMING TO
PEOPLE OF FAITH A
LIKE-MINDEDNESS.
SURE.
Terry: BUT YOU'RE
SHOWING THERE ARE PEOPLE
WHO MAY NOT HAVE BEEN
PEOPLE OF FAITH WHO ARE
MADE TO THINK ABOUT THIS.
THE STORIES THAT COME
IN, FROM THE FIRST ONE,
HAVE BEEN INCREDIBLE.
THERE WAS A GIRL WHO
TWEETED ME, AND SHE WAS
15, I THINK, AND SHE HAD
BEEN CUTTING HERSELF.
AND SHE HAD THAT
ADDICTION, AND SHE
COULDN'T GET FREE FROM IT.
AND SAID SHE WHEN SHE WENT
TO THE FIRST ONE, SHE FELT
GOD'S PRESENCE AND LOVE
FOR THE FIRST TIME, AND
SHE FELT SHE WOULD BE ABLE
TO OVERCOME THAT.
AND FROM STORIES LIKE THAT
TO ATHEISTS WHO THEN
STARTED OPENING THE BIBLE.
WE MAKE THE FILMS, FIRST
AND FOREMOST, TO ENCOURAGE
PEOPLE IN THEIR FAITH.
I THINK THAT'S WHY THE
FIRST ONE WAS SO
SUCCESSFUL.
BECAUSE CHRISTIANS DON'T
USUALLY HAVE SOMETHING IN
THE THEATERS THAT SAY
BELIEVE AND BE INSPIRED IN
YOUR FAITH.
AND IT OPENS UP
DISCUSSIONS ABOUT
RELIGIOUS LIBERTIES AND
FREEDOMS.
THERE IS A LINE IN THE
MOVIE ABOUT THE SILENT
MAJORITY.
WE SHOULD JUST BE THE
SILENT MAJORITY.
I THINK THAT IS THE
OPPOSITE OF WHAT WE SHOULD
BE DOING.
WE NEED TO SPEAK OUT MORE.
Terry: SO WHEN
SOMEONE GOES TO SEE THIS
FILM, BECAUSE IT IS BEING
RELEASED ON FRIDAY,
APRIL 1st -- WHEN THEY
GO TO SEE IT, WHAT DO YOU
WANT THE TAKE ANYWHER-AWAY TO BE?
ALL OF THAT.
BUT THE BIGGEST THING IS
THAT GOD HAS A SPECIFIC
PURPOSE AND A PLAN FOR
YOUR LIFE.
AND HE IS REAL.
Terry: YEAH.
AND THERE IS HOPE IN
HIM.
Terry: SO
APRIL 1st.
APRIL 1st.
Terry: DID YOU PLAN
THAT THIS FILM WOULD BE
RELEASED ON THAT
PARTICULAR DAY?
TALK ABOUT THE IRONY OF
THAT.
THE FIRST ONE THEY
ACTUALLY SHOWED AT AN
ATHEIST CONVENTION LATER
ON.
AND IT IS HOWEVER GOD USES
IT.
IT IS NOT UP TO US.
WE MAKE THE BEST MOVIE WE
CAN DO, BUT ULTIMATELY IT
IS HIS SPIRIT THAT PUSHES
IT OUT.
THIS TIME IT COMES OUT ON
THE NATIONAL ATHEIST
HOLIDAY, APRIL FOOL'S
DAY --
Terry: I DIDN'T KNOW
THERE WAS A NATIONAL
ATHEIST HOLIDAY?
I DIDN'T EITHER.
BUT IT COMES OUT ON THAT
DAY TO SAY THANK YOU AND
TO SPEAK THE TRUTH AND
SHINE A LIGHT IN THE DARK
WORLD.
Terry: WHAT YOU
MENTIONED EARLIER ABOUT
THE VISION OF THE THREE,
DOES THAT MEAN THE THIRD
ONE IS IN THE WORKS?
I'M GOING TO TELL YOU
SOMETHING, TERRY.
IF YOU SIT THROUGH THE
CREDITS, THERE IS A LITTLE
EASTER EGG AT THE END --
Terry: I ALWAYS SIT
THROUGH THE CREDITS.
ON THIS ONE IT IS WORTH
SITTING THROUGH.
THERE IS A RELEASE DRAG
THAT SETS IT UP.
Terry: HERE YOU ARE
SOMEONE WHO HAS BEEN
INVOLVED IN A MOVIE THAT
HAS MEAT AND A MESSAGE TO
IT.
DON'T YOU THINK THAT ALL
PEOPLE, EVEN PEOPLE WHO
PRPROFESS NOT TO BE, HAVE A
HUNGER INSIDE OF THEM TO
KNOW MORE, TO UNDERSTAND
MORE?
MOVIES LIKE THIS, I THINK
CAUSE YOU TO THINK.
ABSOLUTELY.
THE BEAUTIFUL THING ABOUT
GOING TO A MOVIE THEATER
IS THAT ONE ALLOWS THAT
MOVIE TO TAKE THEM TO
PLACES THAT THEY WOULD NOT
EVEN ALLOW THEIR BEST
FRIEND TO TAKE THEM.
THERE IS SOMETHING THAT
HAPPENS WHEN THE LIGHT
GOES DOWN AND THAT STORY
COMES UP.
IT IS YOU IDENTIFYING WITH
THOSE CHARACTERS.
I THINK IT HAS BEEN
NEEDING -- WE'VE BEEN
PLAYING IN THE CINEMA FOR
A WHILE, BUT, YOU KNOW,
TWO YEARS AGO IT WAS
CALLED "THE YEAR OF THE
BIBLE," AND IT IS EXCITING
TO SEE THESE TYPE OF
MOVIES GOING OUT MORE AND
MORE, AND TRUTH AND HOPE
BEING PROCLAIMED THROUGH
THE CINEMA.
Terry: AMEN.
AND YOU'RE A BIG PART OF
THAT.
AND WE SAY THANK YOU.
THANK YOU.
Terry: IT IS ALWAYS A
PLEASURE AS A BELIEVER TO
SEE SOMETHING WONDERFUL ON
THE SCREEN.
IF YOU WANT TO SEE "GOD'S
NOT DEAD 2," YOUR WAIT IS
ALMOST OVER.
CELEBRATE NATIONAL ATHEIST
DAY BY ATTENDING THE
MOVIE.
Terry: I'LL WEAR THIS
TO THE MOVIE.
AND CHECK OUT THE
WEBSITE AND GET YOUR
CHURCH INVOLVED.
Terry: AND START IT
ON APRIL 1st.
IT IS RATED P.G.
DAVID, THANK YOU FOR BEING
WITH US, AND THANK FOR
WHAT YOU DO.
> IN THE SPEARED OF
"GOD'S NOT DEAD," THE
SPIRIT OF A KNOW-IT-ALL
ATHEIST WHO CHANGED HER
BELIEFS BECAUSE OF A
CHILDREN'S BOOK.
GOD USES ALL THINGS.
WE'LL TELL YOU LATER WHAT
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Pat: WELCOME BACK.
YOU'RE WATCHING "THE 700
CLUB."
WE'RE DELIGHTED TO HAVE
YOU WITH US.
WE HAVE GREAT THINGS
COMING UP.
ONE OF THEM IS SOMEBODY
NAMED JORDAN MONJI.
SHE WAS A MIDDLE SCHOOLER,
AND AS SUCH, SHE SAID, I
WANT TO GET THE WORDS
"UNDER GOD" TAKEN OUT OF
THE "PLEDGE OF
ALLEGIANCE".
SHE WAS A MILITANT ATHEIST
WHEN SHE WAS STILL A KID.
SHE GOT A COUPLE OF DEATH
THREATS BECAUSE OF IT.
BUT JORDAN WAS SMART AND
EVERYBODY KNEW IT.
AS AN ATHEIST, SHE USED
HER VERY FERTILE BRAIN TO
ATTACK CHRISTIANITY.
AND THEN ONE DAY, WHILE IN
COLLEGE, JORDAN REALIZED
AS SMART AS SHE WAS, SHE
HAD A LOT TO LEARN.
ONE OF THE HARDEST
THINGS AS AN ATHEIST IS
THAT ALL OF THESE VALUES,
WHY AM I IMPORTANT, WHY
SHOULD PEOPLE CARE ABOUT
ME -- A LOT OF THOSE
THINGS COME FROM OUR OWN
PERFORMANCE.
Reporter: AS A
DAUGHTER OF TWO ATHEISTS,
JORDAN MONJI FELT SHE HAD
A LOT TO PROVE.
YOU HAVE TO UNDERSTAND
MY FAMILY IS VERY
COMPETITIVE.
THERE HAS ALWAYS BEEN A
HIGH PRIORITY ON BEING THE
BEST.
SO MUCH OF MY IDENTITY WAS
FOUNDED ON I'M THE
SMARTEST ONE IN THE ROOM.
I'M NOT THE PRETTIEST OR
THE MOST ATHLETIC, BUT I'M
THE SMARTEST.
Reporter: AT 11 YEARS
OLD, JORDAN DECIDED THERE
WAS NO GOD AND BEGAN
OPENLY CHALLENGING HER
CHRISTIAN CLASSMATES.
I WOULD BRING THE BIBLE
TO SCHOOL AND SAY, TELL ME
WHY THIS ISN'T A
CONTRADICTION, AND THEY
COULDN'T DO IT.
Reporter: SHE
CONSIDERED HERSELF A GOOD
PERSON, BUT THAT RAISED A
QUESTION SHE COULDN'T
ANSWER: WHERE DID MORALITY
COME FROM IF NOT FROM GOD?
WHY IS SOMETHING RIGHT
OR WRONG?
I DON'T BELIEVE IN A GOD,
SO WHERE ARE THESE THINGS
COMING FROM.
I HAD GONE AND ASKED ALL
OF THESE PEOPLE, AND
NOBODY COULD ANSWER.
I SAID, I'M GOING TO WAIT
UNTIL COLLEGE TO EXPLORE
THOSE QUESTIONS, WHEN I
CAN GET INTO A GOOD
SCHOOL.
THEY WORKED OUT PRETTY
WELL BECAUSE I GOT INTO
HARVARD.
Reporter: THERE SHE
DISCOVERED SHE WAS NO
LONGER AT THE TOP OF THE
CLASS.
NOW BEING SURROUNDED BY
PEOPLE I'M NO LONGER THE
SMARTEST PERSON IN THE
ROOM 90% OF THE TIME, IT
MAKES YOU WONDER WHO
REALLY AM I AND WHAT MAKES
ME VALUABLE?
Reporter: AS JORDAN
BEGAN TO QUESTION HER
WORTH, SHE BECAME FRIENDS
WITH JOSEPH PORTER, A
CHRISTIAN CONSERVATIVE WHO
GAVE HER EVEN MORE
QUESTIONS TO THINK ABOUT.
HE REALLY STARTED
PRESSING ME, WHERE DOES
YOUR MORALITY COME FROM?
YOU'RE SAYING IT EMERGES
FROM NOWHERE?
I STARTED SEEING, MAYBE
THERE ARE THESE CRACKS IN
MY OWN ELEC INT INTELLECTUAL
FRAMEWORK.
Reporter: SHE WAS
ASSIGNED A SHORT READING
ASSIGNMENT, AN ESSAY BY
C.S. LEWIS.
HE SAYS GOD IS
GOODNESS.
GOD IS THE GOOD.
AND OUR LIVES ARE GOOD
WHEN WE STRIVE TO IMITATE
GOD.
IT WAS MIND-BLOWING.
Reporter: JORDAN
WANTED TO EXPLORE THIS
IDEA FURTHER, SO SHE
DECIDED TO READ THE BIBLE
AGAIN.
THIS TIME SHE WOULD TRY TO
UNDERSTAND IT, NOT
CRITIQUE IT.
AND WHEN SHE READ JESUS'
SERMON ON THE MOUNT, SHE
WAS STRUCK BY WHAT HE SAID
ABOUT WHAT IT MEANS TO BE
GOOD.
AS AN ATHEIST, I WAS
LIVING LIFE BETTER,
ACCORDING TO A CHRISTIAN
ETHIC, THAN A LOT OF
CHRISTIANS WERE.
I WASN'T SLEEPING AROUND.
I WASN'T DOING DRUGS.
I WASN'T DRINKING.
I WAS A GOOD STUDENT.
SO IT WAS EASY FOR ME TO
THINK OF MYSELF AS A GOOD
PERSON.
IT WAS ONLY WHEN I WENT
BACK TO THE WORDS OF JESUS
THAT I SAW THAT I WAS AN
ANGRY PERSON.
YOU ARE VERY ARROGANT.
YOU THINK TOO HIGHLY OF
YOURSELF.
BEING THOSE THINGS MADE ME
REALIZE I WASN'T REALLY A
GOOD PERSON.
MAYBE I DON'T KNOW THE
BEST WAY TO RUN MY LIFE.
Reporter: JORDAN KEPT
READING UNTIL SHE CAME TO
JOHN 19.
I HAD FINALLY MADE IT
TO THE CRUCIFIXION SCENE.
AND AS I WAS READING IT, I
HAD THIS MOMENT WHERE I
JUST SAID, NO, NO.
Reporter: FOR YEARS,
SHE THOUGHT THE LION, THE
WITCH, AND THE WARDROBE
WAS JUST A STORY.
BUT NOW SHE REALIZED HER
FAVORITE WORK OF NARNIA
WAS NORTHERN JUST FICTION.
AND SHE WAS JUST LIKE
EDMUND, A ARROGANT BECAUSE
REDEEMED.
IT CLICKED, I AM
EDMUND, AND JESUS IS ASH
ASHLAND, AND HE IS DYING
FOR MY FAITH.
SEEING IT NOW IN THE STORY
WAS A TOTALLY RADICAL NEW
WAY OF LOOKING AT IT.
AND REALIZING MY OWN SIN
AND MY OWN NEED OF HEALING
FROM THAT SIN, MADE ALL OF
THE DIFFERENCE IN HOW I
READ IT.
REALIZING IN THAT MOMENT
THAT YOUR EDMUND IS TO
REALIZE I'M POWERLESS.
I NEED HELP.
I RECOGNIZED MY OWN
INCURABLE NEED FOR
FORGIVENESS THAT COULD
ONLY COME FROM JESUS
CHRIST.
Reporter: STILL, THAT
WASN'T ENOUGH TO BREAK
JORDAN'S DEEPLY-ROOTED
NEED FOR INTELLECTUAL
EVIDENCE OF GOD.
SO SHE POURED OVER EVERY
SCIENTIFIC ARGUMENT, AND
ALL OF THE EVIDENCE
POINTED HER BACK TO JESUS
CHRIST.
ONE OF THE THINGS THAT
HELPED ME THE MOST TO
ELIMINATE MY PRIDE WAS
HAVING TO ADMIT THAT I HAD
BEEN WRONG ALL OF THOSE
YEARS AS AN ATHEIST.
Reporter: ULTIMATELY,
IT CAME DOWN TO A
PROFOUND, YET SIMPLE,
TRUTH.
AS I THOUGHT ABOUT WHAT
LOVE REALLY WAS, AND I
COULD SEE HOW JESUS DIED
ON THE CROSS WAS A PERFECT
EMBODIMENT OF THAT.
GOD IS LOVE AND GOD IS
TRUTH, SO GOD IS GOODNESS.
IT WAS AT THAT POINT WHEN
I REALIZED, IF I WANT TO
TRY THIS CHRISTIANITY
BUSINESS, I CAN'T DO IT
HALF HEARTEDLY.
I HAVE TO BE FULLY
COMMITTED.
Reporter: IN
APRIL 2009, JORDAN GAVE
HER LIFE TO JESUS.
SINCE THEN SHE HAS GROWN
EVEN STRONGER IN HER
FAITH.
SHE GRADUATED FROM HARVARD
IN 2012, RECENTLY MARRIED,
AND IS PURSUING A
DOCTORATE DEGREE AT FULLER
SEMINARY SCHOOL.
WHAT IS MAN THAT GOD IS
MINDFUL OF HIM?
WHAT AM I THAT I HAVE
VALUE?
SO LONG MY VALUE HAD COME
FROM THE THINGS THAT I HAD
DONE.
SO MOVING TO A FRAMEWORK
INSTEAD THAT THE REASON I
KNEW I WAS VALUABLE IS
BECAUSE CHRIST HAD DIED
FOR ME, THAT HE LOVES ME
REGARDLESS OF WHAT I WOULD
EVER DO, IT IS IMMENSELY
FREEING.
Pat: IT'S AMAZING HOW
MANY PATHS THERE ARE TO
FIND THE LORD.
I WAS IN GRADUATE SCHOOL,
AS I RECALL, AND BEGAN
READING PLATO AND FOUND A
DISCUSSION OF TRUTH AND
DECENCY AND ALL OF THE
THINGS THAT WERE THERE.
THIS WAS NOT SOME
RELIGIOUS TEXT.
IT WAS SOMEBODY WHO WAS A
PHILOSOPHER, WHO HAD, YOU
KNOW, DEALT WITH THE
PROBLEMS OF MANKIND AND
COME UP WITH SOME ANSWERS,
WHICH WERE PROVOKING, AND
IT STARTED ME THINKING
ABOUT WHO I WAS AND WHERE
I WAS.
AND JORDAN IS THE SAME
WAY.
SHE WAS INTELLECTUAL.
YOU KNOW WHAT THE BIBLE
SAYS, THOUGH, WISDOM IS
WHAT WE TALK ABOUT AS
INTELLECTUAL.
AND THE TERM FOR THE
PEOPLE WHO STUDY
INTELLECTUAL THINGS IS
PHILOSOPHY, LOVERS OF
WISDOM.
WISDOM IS SOFIA, AND FILOS
IS THE LOVER OF WISDOM.
AND SO PEOPLE SPEND A LOT
OF TIME ARGUING ON POINTS,
DISCUSSING COMPARATIVE
RELIGION, AND GO THROUGH
ALL OF THAT STUFF.
BUT THE APOSTLE PAUL GOT
TO CORINTH, AND HE WAS
TRAINED IN ALL OF THESE
THINGS.
BUT HE SAYS, WHEN I WAS
WITH YOU, I HAD ONLY ONE
THOUGHT IN MIND.
AND THAT WAS JESUS CHRIST
AND HIM CRUCIFIED.
I WASN'T GOING TO TALK TO
YOU ABOUT THE REASON.
HE PREACHED A SERMON ON
MARS HILL THAT WAS
BRILLIANT, BUT IT DIDN'T
GET ANYBODY SAVED.
BECAUSE HE TOLD HEM ABOUT HIM ABOUT
AN UNSEEN GOD, THE ONE YOU
CAN'T SEE, AND I'M GOING
TO TELL YOU ABOUT HIM AND
SO FORTH.
A BRILLIANT SERMON.
BUT THAT WASN'T WHAT
TOUCHED PEOPLE'S HEARTS.
BUT WHAT DID TOUCH
PEOPLE'S HEARTS IS THE
SIMPLE TRUTH OF THE CROSS.
YOU ARE A SINNER.
YOU HAVE SINNED AGAINST
THE CREATOR THAT MADE YOU.
AND JESUS CHRIST WAS SENT
BY THE CREATOR TO DIE FOR
YOU.
AND HE PAID THE PRICE FOR
YOUR SIN.
IF YOU RECEIVED HIM, YOU
WILL BE FORGIVEN AND
YOU'RE RESTORED TO
FELLOWSHIP WITH YOUR
CREATOR.
THAT'S THE SIMPLE GOSPEL.
AND PAUL SAID, I'M NOT
ASHAMED OF THE GOSPEL OF
JESUS CHRIST BECAUSE IT IS
THE POWER OF GOD FOR
SALVATION TO ALL THOSE WHO
BELIEVE.
SO YOU'VE GOT A STORY OF
JORDAN.
AND SHE WENT THROUGH
INTELLECTUAL PURSUITS AND
SHE FOUND THE LORD.
YOU DON'T NEED TO WADE
THROUGH ALL OF THAT STUFF.
ALL YOU HAVE TO DO IS
RECOGNIZE THAT JESUS
CHRIST DIED FOR YOU.
AND THE FACT THAT HE
DECIDDIEDINDICATED -- HE NEEDED TO
DIE BECAUSE YOU NEEDED A
SAVIOR.
OTHERWISE YOU WOULD GO TO
HELL AND YOU'D BE LOST
FROM GOD.
DO YOU WANT THAT?
IF YOU WANT THAT, ALL YOU
HAVE TO DO IS PRAY WITH ME
RIGHT NOW AND HE'LL ANSWER
YOUR PRAYER.
SO I'M GOING TO LEAD YOU
IN PRAYER.
I'M NOT GOING TO GIVE YOU
A WHOLE BUNCH OF FANCY
ARGUMENTS.
I COULD GIVE YOU SOME OF
THEM, BUT I DON'T WANT TO
WASTE YOUR TIME OR MINE.
I WANT TO GIVE YOU WHAT IS
IMPORTANT.
AND WHAT IS IMPORTANT IS
THAT YOU NEED A SAVIOR.
IF YOU WANT HIM, PRAY WITH
ME.
PRAY THESE WORDS.
JESUS -- THAT'S RIGHT,
PRAY WITH ME.
JESUS, I COME BEFORE YOU
AS A SINNER.
I HAVEN'T LIVED MY LIFE
FOR YOU.
I KNOW IT AND YOU KNOW IT.
LORD, I KNOW YOU DIED FOR
SINNERS.
AND YOU DIED FOR ME.
AND SO, LORD JESUS, RIGHT
NOW I TURN AWAY FROM SIN
AND I GIVE YOU MY LIFE.
RIGHT NOW, LORD, I TAKE
YOU AS MY SAVIOR.
AND I SURRENDER TO YOU.
AND FROM THIS MOMENT ON I
THANK YOU, THAT I AM YOURS
AND YOU ARE MINE.
THANK YOU, LORD.
THANK YOU, LORD.
THANK YOU, LORD.
NOW, IF YOU PRAYED WITH ME
JUST THEN, I WANT YOU TO
DO SOMETHING.
I WANT YOU TO GO TO YOUR
TELEPHONE.
I WANT YOU TO CALL IN.
AND I WANT YOU TO SAY, I
PRAYED WITH PAT.
AND I'D LIKE TO GIVE YOU
SOMETHING THAT WILL HELP
YOU.
THIS IS 73 MINUTES OF A
C.D.
YOU PLUG IT INTO YOUR
COMPACT DISC PLAYER, AND
IT WILL TELL YOU A WHOLE
LOT OF THINGS THAT JUST
HAPPENED TO YOU.
IT IS MORE THAN I'VE GOT
TIME FOR RIGHT NOW.
YOU CAN HAVE THAT, AND
I'LL GIVE IT TO YOU FREE,
IF YOU JUST CALL IN RIGHT
NOW AND SAY, I JUST PRAYED
WITH PAT; GIVE ME "A NEW
DAY."
THIS IS FREE, NO CHARGE.
1-800-759-0700.
AND THE ANGELS OF HEAVEN
ARE REJOICING BECAUSE OF
THE DECISION YOU JUST MADE
TODAY.
TERRY?
Terry: WELL, UP NEXT,
TIME TO "BRING IT ON" WITH
YOUR E-MAIL QUESTIONS.
ONE VIEWER WRITES, "I'M A
CHRISTIAN BUT I LOOKED AT
PORN MANY TIMES.
I FEEL LIKE A HYPOCRITE.
WHAT CAN I DO?"
WE'VE GOT YOUR QUESTIONS
AND PAT HAS SOME ANSWERS,
SO DON'T GO AWAY.
WE'LL BE RIGHT BACK.
I DIDN'T UNDERSTAND
WHAT LOVE WAS.
Terry: WE WANT TO
TAKE SOME TIME TO ANSWER
THE E-MAIL QUESTIONS YOU
SENT INMENT PAT, THIS
FIRST ONE IS FROM A VIEWER
WHO SAYS, "DEAR PAT, I
CONSIDER MYSELF A GREAT
LEADER AND I PRACTICE MY
FAITH ALL OF THE TIME.
BUT I FEEL LIKE A
HYPOCRITE BECAUSE I'VE
BACK SLID INTO PORNOGRAPHY
NUMEROUS TIMES.
HOW CAN I RECOVER?
WHAT SHOULD I DO TO GET
RID OF HIS DAMAGING
ADDICTION.
I FEEL LIKE A FALLEN
LEADER.
PLEASE HELP."
Pat: I DON'T KNOW
WHAT YOU'RE A LEADER OF,
BUT THIS WHOLE MATTER OF
PORN -- YOU SAY I HAVE
BEEN ADDICTED TO EATING
AND I HAD A PIECE OF
CHOCOLATE CAKE, AND THEN A
MONTH LATER I HAD ANOTHER
PIECE OF CHOCOLATE CAKE
AND I FEEL GUILTY.
WELL, THAT'S AN APPETITE.
SEX IS AN APPETITE.
AND SO THE PORN PEOPLE
HAVE DONE EVERYTHING THEY
CAN TO STIMULATE THAT
APPETITE, TO MAKE IT LOOK
APPEALING, JUST LIKE THE
PEOPLE WHO BAKE THE
CHOCOLATE CAKE DID
EVERYTHING THEY COULD TO
MAKE IT LOOK DELICIOUS AND
YOU WANT IT.
SO YOU HAVE SUCCUMB TO A
TEMPTATION.
HOW DO YOU GET FREE OF IT?
JOB SAID, I HAVE MADE A
COVENANT WITH THINE EYES
NOT TO LOOK UPON A MAID.
MEN ARE STIMULATED
VISUALLY.
IF YOU LOOK -- YOU'VE GOT
MAGAZINES AND PICTURES AND
INTERNET -- YOU'VE GOT ALL
OF THIS STUFF.
IT'S ALL THERE.
YOU HAVE TO MAKE A
COVENANT TO SAY, I'M NOT
GOING TO WATCH IT.
IF YOU DO, WHAT YOU NEED
TO DO IS ASK GOD'S
FORGIVENESS.
HE WILL FORGIVE YOU
BECAUSE HE UNDERSTANDS YOU
ARE MADE OUT OF DUST.
AND YOU HAVE APPETITES.
HE PUT THE APPETITES
THERE.
BUT THEY ARE TO BE USED
NORMALLY.
LIKE EATING IS NORMAL.
QUENCHING THIRST IS
NORMAL.
SEXUAL ACTIVITY IN
MARRIAGE IS NORMAL.
SO HE HAS PUT THAT IN
THERE.
SO THE MISUSE OF IT IS
SOMETHING WE FEEL GUILTY
ABOUT.
BUT JUST REMEMBER THAT
WHEN WE GO TO HEAVEN AND
HAVE A NEW BODY, WE WON'T
BE PLAGUED WITH GLUTTONY
OR SEXUAL ADDICTION OR ANY
OF THAT STUFF.
IT WILL ALL BE GONE.
SO WHAT WE HAVE TO
CONCENTRATE ON IS THE WAY
WE LIVE RIGHT NOW.
OKAY.
Terry: THIS IS ANNA
WHO SAYS, "HOW IS IT
THUNDERSTORTHATYOUR PRAYERS FOR HEALING
IS RESPONDED TO SO
RAPIDLY.
I BELIEVE GOD CAN DO
ANYTHING, BUT WHAT YOU DO
SEEMS LIKE MORE THAN JUST
TWO BEING GATHERED IN HIS
NAME."
Pat: IF YOU READ THE
BIBLE, ONE OF THE
ANOINTMENTS IS THE WORD OF
KNOWLEDGE.
THE LORD SPEAKS HIS WORD,
AND HE SAYS THERE IS
SOMEBODY IN THE AUDIENCE
WHO HAS A BROKEN LEG AND
I'M HEALING IT.
SO I'M NOT ASKING HIM TO
HEAL THE LEG; I'M
DECLARING WHAT HE HAS
DONE.
THAT'S WHY IT HAPPENS
INSTANTLY BECAUSE GOD IS
ALREADY DOING IT.
AS YOU GATHER TWO OR MORE,
HE IS IN THE MIDST AND HE
IS DOING MIRACLES.
WE LEAVE YOU WITH
TODAY'S POWER MINUTE FROM
PSALM 34: "TASTE AND SEE
THAT THE LORD IS GOOD.
BLESSED IS THE ONE WHO
TAKES REFUGE IN HIM."
WELL, THANK YOU FOR BEING
WITH US.
THAT'S ALL OF THE TIME
WE'VE GOT.
FOR WENDY AND FOR TERRY
AND ALL OF US, THIS IS PAT
ROBERTSON.
I'LL SEE YOU TOMORROW.
BYE.