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The 700 Club - October 15, 2015

In their new movie Woodlawn, producer Kevin Downes and actor Caleb Castille tackle faith and football. Plus, Rachael recovered from a lifetime of abuse after finding freedom in Christ. Read Transcript


Wendy: CHRISTIANITY

IS UNDER ATTACK, AND A NEW

CROP OF LEADERS ARE

FIGHTING BACK.

TONY PERKINS SHARES

STORIES OF THOSE STANDING

UP NO FOR THEIR FAITH.

PLUS...THE TRUE STORY OF A

TOWN TORN APART, AND THE

GAME WHERE MORE THAN

FOOTBALL WAS AT STAKE.

GO INSIDE THE NEW MOVIE,

"WOODLAWN," ON TODAY'S

"700 CLUB."

Pat: WELL, WE WELCOME

YOU TO "THE 700 CLUB."

WE'RE SO GLAD YOU'RE WITH

US.

WE HAVE A TERRIFIC PROGRAM

FOR YOU TODAY.

LISTEN TO THIS: KILL THE

JEWS, DEATH TO THE JEWS IN

THE NAME OF ALLAH.

THAT'S THE MESSAGE THAT

HAS BEEN GOING OUT TO

PALESTINIANS, AND NOW

THEY'RE RESPONDING WITH A

WAVE OF TERRORIST ATTACKS

ALL OVER ISRAEL.

IT SEEMS TO BE NO END IN

SIGHT.

Terry: SECRETARY OF

STATE JOHN KERRY SAYS

HE'LL BE HEADING TO THE

MIDDLE EAST SOON TO HELP

STOP THE VIOLENCE.

BUT PALESTINIAN PRESIDENT

MAHMOUD ABBAS IS RAMPING

UP THE VIOLENCE AGAINST

THE JEWISH STATE.

CHRIS MITCHELL BRINGS US

THE STORY.

Chris: ISRAEL SAYS

DECADES OF INCITEMENT ARE

BEHIND THE CURRENT WAVE OF

TERRORISM.

THE GOVERNMENT DEPLOYED

MORE ISRAELI BORDER

POLICE, ALONG WITH

JERUSALEM POLICE, TO BLOCK

ENTRANCES TO JEWISH'S

NEIGHBORHOOD, LIKE THIS

ONE, WHERE A NUMBER OF THE

ATTACKERS CAME FROM.

WE HEAR AGAIN AND AGAIN

THE SLOGAN: KILL THE JEWS,

KNIFE THE JEWS, DEATH TO

THE JEWS IN THE NAME OF

ALLAH, IN THE NAME OF

DEFENDING ISLAM, IN THE

NAME OF DEFENDING THE

AL-AQSA MOSQUE.

Chris: IN A TELEVISED

SPEECH ON WEDNESDAY, ABBAS

ACCUSED ISRAELI OF

INCREASING WHAT HE CALLED

ITS AGGRESSIVE OFFENSIVE

AGAINST PALESTINIANS AND

HOLY SITES.

WHO SENDS YOUNG PEOPLE

OUT WITH BUTCHER KNIVES TO

ATTACK ISRAELIS, AND IT

EMANATES FROM INCITEMENT,

AND PARTICULARLY RELIGIOUS

INCITEMENT.

INCITEMENT ROUNDS THE

FALSE ACCUSATION THAT

ISRAEL SEEKS CHANGE OF THE

STATUS QUO ON THE TEMPLE

MOUNT.

Chris: ABBAS DIDN'T

CONDEMN THE CURRENT WAVE

OF TERROR.

HE CHARGED ISRAEL WITH

WHAT HE CALLED FIELD

EXECUTIONS, AND SAID TWO

TEENS WHO CARRIED OUT A

STABBING ATTACK OF AN

ISRAELI TEENAGER THIS WEEK

WERE MARTYRS.

THEIR PARENTS SAID THEY

WENT TO BUY CANDY, BUT

THIS SECURITY CAMERA

FOOTAGE CLEARLY SHOWS THE

BOYS BRANDISHING KNIVES.

ONE OF THE TEENS WAS

KILLED AS HE TRIED TO

ATTACK A POLICEMAN.

BUT THE OTHER IS ALIVE AND

RECEIVING TREATMENT IN AN

ISRAELI HOSPITAL.

YET ABBAS SAID HE WAS

DEAD.

GENERAL DORI GOLD POINT UD

OPOINTEDOUT THAT ABBAS HAS BEEN

STOKING THE FIRE.

NO LESS THAN MAHMOUD

ABBAS MADE THE FAMOUS

COMMENT ON

SEPTEMBER 16th OF THIS

YEAR, "WE WELCOME EVERY

DROP OF BLOOD OF ISRAELI

BLOOD I."

Chris: THIS HAMAS

VIDEO SHOWS HOW TO STAB A

JEW.

ON WEDNESDAY, A

PALESTINIAN TRIED TO STAB

A POLICE OFFICER AT THE

DAMASCUS GATE OF THE OLD

CITY.

A TELEVISION CREW CAUGHT

HIS ATTEMPTED ESCAPE ON

FILM, AS HE WAS SHOT AND

KILLED BY SECURITY FORCES.

A SHORT TIME LATER,

ANOTHER TERRORIST STABBED

A WOMAN IN HER 70s AT

THE JERUSALEM CENTRAL BUS

STATION.

SHE MANAGED TO BOARD THE

BUS.

THE TERRORIST WAS SHOT AND

KILLED.

ISRAELIS ARE BRACING

THEMSELVES FOR FRIDAY,

WHEN PALESTINIANS HAVE

CALLED FOR ANOTHER DAY OF

RAGE.

AND FOR NOW, THE TERROR

SHOWS NO SIGNS OF ABATING.

CHRIS MITCHELL, CBN NEWS,

JERUSALEM.

Pat: THANKS, CHRIS.

BOY, THAT'S A TOUGH THING

FOR THE ISRAELIS.

HOW DO YOU HANDLE

SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

WHAT IF WE HAD FIVE

MILLION PEOPLE, LET'S SAY,

IN AMERICA, AND ALL OF

THESE CITIES STARTED

STABBING INNOCENT

CIVILIANS?

IT WOULD BE CHAOS.

THEY'VE GOT CHAOS GOING ON

OVER THERE.

BUT THE ISRAELIS KNOW HOW

TO TAKE CARE OF IT.

> HERE AT HOME, WE'RE

SEEING IT NOW, POLITICAL

CORRECTNESS RUN AMUCK.

A FORMER FIRE CHIEF IN

ATLANTA SAYS THAT

EXPRESSING HIS FAITH IN A

BIBLE STUDY BOOK LED TO

THE END OF HIS CAREER.

AND HE SAYS THAT'S UNTHINK

UNTHINKABLE IN THE UNITED

STATES OF AMERICA.

JOHN JESSUP HAS THAT STORY

FROM OUR CBN NEWS BUREAU

IN WASHINGTON.

John: THANKS, PAT.

THAT FIRE CHIEF, CALVIN

COCHRAN JUST HAD THE FIRST

HEARING IN HIS LAWSUIT

AGAINST THE CITY OF

ATLANTA AFTER BEING FIRED

OVER STATEMENTS HE WROTE

ABOUT HOMOSEXUALITY IN A

CHRISTIAN MEN'S

DEVOTIONAL.

A FEDERAL JUDGE HASN'T

MADE A DECISION IF

COCHRAN'S COMPLAINT WILL

MOVE FORWARD.

ABIGAIL ROBERTSON BRINGS

US THE LATEST FROM

ATLANTA.

Reporter: ONCE RANKED

ONE OF THE HIGHEST FIRE

OFFICIALS IN THE COUNTRY,

CALVIN COCHRAN HAS NOW

SEEN HIS CAREER RIPPED

AWAY FROM HIM FOR

EXPRESSING HIS RELIGIOUS

VIEWS IN A BIBLE STUDY

BOOK.

THE PATRIOTISM THAT

CAUSED ME TO BE A

FIREFIGHTER IN THE FIRST

PLACE --

Reporter: CHIEF

COCHRAN DEDICATED 34 YEARS

OF HIS LIFE.

BUT LAST NOVEMBER, HE WAS

ABRUPTLY TERMINATED FROM

HIS JOB AFTER A COMPLAINT

TO A GAY CITY COUNCILLOR.

THE COMPLAINT INVOLVED A

PASSAGE IN THE BOOK ABOUT

BIBLICAL VIEWS OF SEX,

USING TERMS LIKE

PERVERSION, INAPPROPRIATE,

AND UNCLEAN.

THE COMPLAINANT CALLED

THAT PASSAGE OFFENSIVE.

BUT THE FAITH THAT LED

TO ALL OF THE CAREER

SUCCESSES I HAD, AND

EXPRESSING IT IN A BOOK,

IS UNTHINKABLE IN THE

UNITED STATES OF AMERICA,

TO LEAD TO THE END OF MY

CAREER.

Reporter: HE ONLY

DISTRIBUTED THE BOOK TO

CO-WORKERS WHO ALREADY

ESTABLISHED A RELATIONSHIP

WITH ITS BELIEVERS.

HE EVEN GAVE A COPY TO

MAYOR REED, WHO PROMISED

TO READ IT.

COCHRAN WAS SHOCKED TO

THINK HIS BOOK WOULD BE

OFFENSIVE TO ANYONE.

IT WAS SUCH A SHOCK

THAT IT WOULD OCCUR, AND

IT WAS SO ABRUPT.

IT WAS A LOT OF HEARTBREAK

AND TEARS.

Reporter: THE CITY

LAUNCHED AN INVESTIGATION

TO FIND OUT IF CO-WORKERS

FELT THAT CHIEF COCHRAN

HAD CREATED A

DISCRIMINATORY

ENVIRONMENT.

THE INVESTIGATION FOUND HE

HADN'T, BUT MAYOR REED

FIRED CHIEF COCHRAN,

CLAIMING HE WOULD NOT

TOLERATE DISCRIMINATION OF

ANY KIND.

IN FEBRUARY OF HIS YEAR,

CHIEF COCHRAN FILED A

LAWSUIT AGAINST THE CITY

OF ATLANTA.

HE IS FIGHTING TO PROVE

THAT AMERICANS SHOULD NOT

HAVE TO LIVE IN FEAR OF

BEING TERMINATED FROM

THEIR JOBS BECAUSE OF

THEIR RELIGIOUS BELIEFS.

DAVID COURTMAN, ONE OF THE

LAWYERS DEFENDING CHIEF

COCHRAN, SAYS THIS IS NOT

JUST A FIGHT ABOUT

VINDICATING THE CHIEF,

BUT, RATHER, A FIGHT TO

PROTECT EVERY AMERICAN'S

RIGHT TO FREEDOM OF

SPEECH.

WE THE FEDERAL

GOVERNMENT TELLING SOMEONE

IF YOU DON'T AGREE WITH

THEIR VIEWS, WITH THEIR

ORTHODOXY, YOU ARE NOT

FILT TO HOLD THE POSITION.

YOU'RE NOT FIT TO MAKE A

LIVING.

THAT SHOULD WORRY

EVERYONE.

Reporter: CHIEF

COCHRAN SAYS HIS FORMER

CO-WORKERS ARE AFRAID TO

EXPRESS THEIR SUPPORT

BECAUSE OF FEAR OF

POTENTIAL CONSEQUENSES.

THEY CAN'T SAY I

BELIEVE LIKE CHIEF COCHRAN

BELIEVES, FOR FEAR OF

BEING TERMINATED.

Reporter: SINCE HIS

TERMINATION, FAITH

COMMUNITIES IN THE ATLANTA

AREA AND AROUND THE

COUNTRY HAVE GIVEN THE

COCHRAN FAMILY A

TREMENDOUS OUTPOURING OF

LOVE AND SUPPORT.

HE ASKED FOR CONTINUED

PRAYER FOR THE MAYOR AND

THE CITY, AS WELL AS FOR

STRENGTH FOR HIS WIFE AND

CHILDREN.

I HAVE NEVER FELT THAT

I WAS IN THIS ALL BY

MYSELF, NOT FOR A MOMENT.

Reporter: CHIEF

COCHRAN STAYS POSITIVE BY

BELIEVING THAT ALL

SUFFERING IS FOR THE GLORY

OF GOD, AND THAT HE WOULD

NOT BE GOING THROUGH THIS

HAD GOD NOT PREPARED HIM

FOR IT.

REPORTING FROM ATLANTA,

ABIGAIL ROBERTSON, CBN

NEWS.

Efrem: THANKS, ABBEY.

PAT, ACCORDING THE A CITY

INVESTIGATION, THEY FOUND

NO EVIDENCE OF

DISCRIMINATION.

BUT ACCORDING TO COCHRAN'S

TARIANATTORNEYS, THEY SAY HE WAS

FIRED ANYWAY BECAUSE HE

MIGHT DISCRIMINATE IN THE

FUTURE.

Pat: THIS MAN --

HAVING SEEN HIS FACE, HE

IS A BLACK MAN.

WHERE ARE THE BLACK

PEOPLE?

WHY DON'T THEY STAND UP

AND TALK ABOUT CHIEF

COCHRAN.

IT IS TIME THEY STAND FOR

ONE OF THEIR OWN.

BUT AT THE SAME TIME, ALL

OF US NEED TO STAND FOR A

MAN LIKE THIS.

HE IS JUST EXPRESSING HIS

FAITH.

IN AMERICA, WE SHOULD HAVE

A RIGHT TO HOLD OUR OWN

PRIVATE RELIGIOUS BELIEFS.

AND THE FACT THAT HE

BELIEVES IN A CERTAIN

THING HAVING TO DO WITH

SEXUAL PUR PURITY, IT IS SO

CLEAR IN THE BIBLE, OVER

AND OVER AND OVER AGAIN,

IN THE OLD AND NEW

TESTAMENT, AND ALL HE IS

DOING IS REAFFIRMING

BIBLICAL VALUES THAT ARE

HELD BY HUNDREDS OF

MILLIONS OF PEOPLE IN THE

WORLD, AND BY A MAJORITY

OF PEOPLE HERE IN THE

UNITED STATES.

ARE WE GOING TO ALLOW A

FEW PEOPLE -- YOU KNOW,

SURVEYS SHOW -- SURVEYS

SHOW 1% OF THE AMERICAN

PEOPLE ARE LESBIAN.

1%.

AND PERHAPS 4%, MAYBE 5%,

ARE HOMOSEXUAL.

THAT'S IT.

ARE WE GOING TO ALLOW THIS

TINY MINORITY TO TAKE AWAY

THE JOBS OF PEOPLE WHO

BELIEVE CONTRARY TO THEIR

BELIEFS?

WHAT KIND OF A NATION DO

WE HAVE.

AND THE MAYOR THINKS HE IS

BEING SO NOBLE.

I'M NOT GOING TO ALLOW ANY

DISCRIMINATION IN MY

ADMINISTRATION.

BOLOGNA.

WHAT HE IS SAYING IS, I'M

POLITICALLY CORRECT AND

I'M GOING TO FIRE ANYBODY

WHO DOESN'T AGREE WITH

POLITICAL CORRECTNESS.

DON'T LET THIS COUNTRY

TURN INTO RUSSIA.

WE JUST DON'T NEED IT.

JOHN?

John: PAT, SPEAKING

OF RUSSIA, RUSSIA'S

CURRENT OPERATIONS IN

SYRIA SHOW VLADIMIR PUTIN

HAS BEEN QUICKLY

MODERNIZING HIS COUNTRY'S

MILITARY OVER THE LAST

SEVERAL YEARS.

AS EFREM GRAHAM REPORTS,

ONLY NOW IS THE REST OF

THE WORLD GETTING TO SEE

IT.

Efrem: AFTER TWO

WEEKS OF THE AIR AND

MISSILE STRIKES IN SYRIA,

A RUSSIAN DEFENSE MINISTRY

OFFICIAL SAYS ITS COMBAT

JETS DESTROYED MILITANT

FASFACILITY NEAR ALEPPO.

AND THE "NEW YORK TIMES"

REPORTS, ACTIONS LIKE THAT

SHOW VLADIMIR PUTIN HAS

UPGRADED AND MODERNIZED

RUSSIA'S MILITARY MUCH

MORE THAN WESTERN

INTELLIGENCE AND MILITARY

OFFICIALS HAD REALIZED.

THE PAPER SAYS PUTIN IS

SHOWCASING HIS ABILITY TO

CONDUCT OPERATIONS BEYOND

HIS COUNTRY'S BORDERS,

WITH A PUBLIC

DEMONSTRATION OF NEW

WEAPONS, TACTICS, AND

STRATEGY.

AND RUSSIA ISN'T ONLY

FLEXING ITS MUSCLE WITH

ADVANCED HARDWARE.

THEY HAVE DEPLOYED FIELD

KITCHENS, AND EVEN SINGERS

AND DANCERS TO ENTERTAIN

THE TROOPS.

RUSSIA'S GROWING PUSH TO

PROP UP SYRIA'S GOVERNMENT

IS RAISING NEW SCRUTINY

AND QUESTIONS ABOUT THE

C.I.A.'S SECRET SUPPORT OF

SYRIAN REBELS FIGHTING

PRESIDENT BASHAR

al-ASSAD.

AND JUST HOW FAR IT WILL

GO TO TAKE ON PUTIN'S

ALLIES, AND IT SEEMS THE

U.S. WON'T GO VERY FAR.

WHITE HOUSE SPOKESMAN

JOSH EARNEST TOLD

REPORTERS ON TUCSON, TUESDAY,

COUNTERING RUSSIA'S

INVOLVEMENT IN SYRIA

DOESN'T RANK NEARLY AS

HIGH ON THE SCALE COMPARED

TO ISIS.

THE LATEST FOX NEWS POLL

SHOWS 53% THINK RUSSIAN

PRESIDENT VLADIMIR PUTIN

HAS THE UPPER HAND IN

SYRIA.

AND ONLY 22% DISAGREE.

AND WHEN IT COMES TO

PRESIDENT OBAMA, 52% SAY

HE IS WEAK AND INDECISIVE

AS A LEADER.

AND ONLY ABOUT A THIRD

CALL HIM STRONG AND

DECISIVE.

EFREM GRAHAM, CBN NEWS.

John: THANKS, EFREM.

PAT, THE WAY THE "NEW YORK

TIMES" PUT IT, RUSSIA IS

USING SYRIA AS APPROVING

GROUND.

Pat: THERE IS NO

QUESTION THAT THAT IS WHAT

IS HAPPENING.

BUT BEFORE IT'S FINISHED,

BASHAR al-ASSAD HAS NO

POWER BASE AT ALL.

SO WHAT IS GOING TO HAPPEN

IS VLADIMIR PUTIN WILL

THEREFORE BE THE DICTATOR

OF SYRIA.

HE WILL TELL THE

GOVERNMENT WHAT TO DO AND

HOW DO DO IT AND WHEN TO

DO IT.

THIS GIVES HIM A LAUNCHING

PAD, AS I'VE SHOWN YOU A

FEW DAYS AGO, INTO THE

OIL-RICH MIDDLE EAST.

HE WILL CONTROL THE OIL

FIELDS, AND BEFORE LONG HE

WILL DOMINATE SOMETHING

THAT IS SO PRECIOUS FOR

EUROPEAN ECONOMIES.

HE IS A LONG-RANGE CHESS

PLAYER, AND HE IS BEATING

OUR NOVICE PRESIDENT EVERY

TIME HE TURNS AROUND.

AND, YOU KNOW, WHAT DOES

OUR PRESIDENT SAY?

WELL, THE MAJOR ISSUE

CONFRONTING HIM THAT S HE IS

GOING TO BE INVOLVED IN A

CLIMATE CHANGE.

WHAT GOOD IS CLIMATE

CHANGE IF ALL OF THE

CLIMATE IS TAKEN AWAY FROM

US?

AND THAT'S WHAT IS GOING

TO HAPPEN, ALL OF THE

TERRITORY.

PUTIN IS TAKING STEP BY

STEP BY STEP.

ACCORDING TO THE "NEW YORK

TIMES," HE IS ACTUALLY

TESTING OUT HIS WEAPONS

SYSTEM AND HIS COMMAND AND

CONTROL STRUCTURE OF HIS

MILITARY.

AND SYRIA IS THE PROVING

GROUND.

BUT HE WILL -- HE IS GOING

TO BEAT THE FORCES OPPOSED

TO ASSAD, AND THEN HE IS

GOING TO CONTROL ASSAD,

AND THEN HE IS GOING TO

TELL ASSAD, YOU DO WHAT I

SAY OR ELSE YOU'RE OUT OF

OFFICE.

AND AWAY HE GOES.

AND HE'LL HAVE A LAUNCHING

PAD, AND HE'LL BRING MORE

AND MORE TROOPS IN.

AND HE HAS A NAVAL BASE

NOW IN THE MEDITERRANEAN.

IT IS UNBELIEVABLE WHAT HE

HAS GOT.

AT NO EXPENSE.

HE JUST WALKED IN AND TOOK

IT BECAUSE THE UNITED

STATES SAID, WELL, WE'RE

OUT OF THIS.

IN OUR LIFETIME WE'RE

SEEING THE DISMANTELMENT

OF AMERICAN POWER, AND IT

IS HAPPENING SO FAST.

WE'RE GIVING AWAY WHAT HAS

TAKEN DECADES TO GAIN.

TERRY?

Terry: COMING UP,

YOUNG CHRISTIANS FIGHTING

INTENSE OPPOSITIONS WITH

AN IN YOUR FACE BOLDNESS.

FIND OUT WHY THEY HAVE NO

FEAR, AFTER THIS.

Pat: THIS IS AMERICA,

THE LAND OF THE FREE AND

THE HOME OF THE BRAVE.

THIS IS A PLACE WHERE WE

BELIEVE IN RELIGIOUS

FREEDOM.

WE BELIEVE IN THE FREEDOM

OF SPEECH.

WE BELIEVE IN A LOT OF

THINGS.

BUT RIGHT HERE IN THIS

GREAT COUNTRY, FOLLOWERS

OF JESUS CHRIST ARE FACING

MORE OPPOSITION.

THAN AT ANY OTHER TIME IN

OUR NATION'S HISTORY.

JUST BECAUSE THEY HAVE A

STRONG FAITH IN JESUS

CHRIST.

NOW A NEW GENERATION IS

STANDING FIRM FOR THEIR

BELIEFS WITH NO FEAR.

TAKE A LOOK.

Reporter: THEY ARE

YOUNG, ORDINARY

CHRISTIANS, COURAGEOUSLY

STANDING UP FOR GOD'S

TRUTH, DESPITE INCREDIBLE

OPPOSITION.

ACTIVISTS LIKE LILA ROSE,

WHO, AS A TEENAGER,

STARTED BECOMING A MAJOR

FORCE IN THE PRO-LIFE

MOVEMENT, SHOOTING

UNDERCOVER VIDEOS AT

ABORTION CLINICS, EXPOSING

ILLEGAL PRACTICES, AND

TRIGGERING INVESTIGATIONS.

THE KOUNTZE TEXAS

CHEERLEADERS, FIGHTING AN

ATHEIST GROUP FOR THE

RIGHT TO KEEP BIBLE VERSES

ON BANNERS AT FOOTBALL

GAMES.

AND THE BENHAM BROTHERS

WHO LOST THEIR REALITY

SHOW BECAUSE OF THEIR

CHRISTIAN VIEWS ON HOT

BUTTON ISSUES LIKE

SAME-SEX MARRIAGE AND

ABORTION.

THEY AND OTHERS MAKE UP A

NEW WAVE OF YOUNG

CHRISTIANS KNOWN FOR THEIR

BOLDNESS AND STRENGTH.

FAMILY RESEARCH COUNCIL

PRESIDENT TONY PERKINS

WRITES ABOUT THEM IN HIS

NEW BOOK "NO FEAR, REAL

STORIES OF A COURAGEOUS

NEW GENERATION STANDING

FOR TRUTH."

Pat: IT'S A POWERFUL

BOOK, AND THE AUTHOR, TONY

PERKINS, IS JOINING US.

TONY, THANKS FOR BEING

WITH US ON "THE 700 CLUB."

THANK YOU, PAT.

GREAT TO BE WITH YOU.

Pat: YOU'VE GOT SOME

TREMENDOUS STORIES.

TELL US SOME OF THE

EXAMPLES THAT STAND OUT TO

YOU OF THOSE WHO HAVE

TAKEN A STAND FOR CHRIST.

WELL, YOU'VE

HIGHLIGHTED SOME OF THEM.

I WOULD MENTION LILA ROSE

BECAUSE WITH LILA, WHAT

WE'RE SEEING UNFOLD WITH

THIS CENTER FOR MEDICAL

PROGRESS ABOUT TO TAKE

DOWN PLANNED PARENTHOOD

AND THE FEDERAL FUNDING

THAT THEY GET, REALLY

STARTED WITH LILA WHEN SHE

BEGAN THESE UNDERCOVER

OPERATIONS A NUMBER OF

YEARS AGO AS A FRESHMAN AT

UCLA IN LOS ANGELES.

WHAT IS ENCOURAGING ABOUT

THIS, AS I SAW THESE

STORIES, PAT, IS YOU HAVE

THESE YOUNG PEOPLE WHO ARE

UNYIELDING IN THEIR FAITH

FOR JESUS CHRIST.

WE TELL THEIR STORIES --

NOT JUST THE APEX OF THE

EVENT, BUT WE KIND OF GO

BACK IN THEIR LIVES, AS

THEY CAME TO KNOW THE

LORD, AS THEIR PARENTS

MENTORED THEM, WHETHER IT

MIGHT HAVE BEEN A PASTOR

THAT HAD INFLUENCE IN

THEIR LIFE.

AND THEY COME TO THIS

POINT WHERE THEY HAVE TO

WRESTLE WITHSTANDIN WITH STANDING FOR

THEIR FAITH.

THEY HAD TO MAKE A CHOICE,

JUST LIKE ALL OF US,

WHETHER OUR LIVES ARE

DIRECTED BY OUR FAITH IN

CHRIST OR OUR FEAR OF MAN.

AND THEY CHOSE TO HAVE

HAVE FAITH IN CHRIST

RATHER THAN FEAR IN MAN.

IT IS REMARKABLE, WHEN YOU

LOOK AT WHAT IS HAPPENING

IN THIS NEW GENERATION.

Pat: CAN YOU GIVE US

SOME OF THE EXAMPLES OF

SOME OF THE PENALTY THEY

INCURRED BECAUSE OF THEIR

FAITH?

WE HAVE DIFFERENT

SETTINGS.

YOU HAVE SOME IN SCHOOL,

SOME IN BUSINESS, AND

SOME -- LIKE THE

CHEERLEADERS WHO FACED

LEGAL CHALLENGES.

YOU HAVE VALEDICTORIANS,

LIKE ROY COSTNER, FROM

SOUTH CAROLINA, WHO WAS

TOLD, LOOK, YOU CAN'T

MENTION GOD OR YOU CAN'T

PRAY, EVEN THOUGH YOUR THE

VALEDICTORIAN.

AND HE WAS FEARFUL HE

MIGHT NOT GRADUATE.

THAT IT MIGHT AFFECT HIS

GOING TO COLLEGE AND BEING

ACCEPTED AT CLEMSON.

BUT HE WRESTLED THROUGH

THIS, TALKING TO HIS DAD,

AND TALKING TO HIS PASTOR,

AND IN THE END, RIGHT

THERE ON THE GRADUATION

STAGE, HE TORE UP HIS

PRE-APPROVED STAGE, AND

GAVE THE MESSAGE THAT WAS

ON HIS HEART.

AND HE LED THE ENTIRE

AUDITORIUM IN THE LORD'S

PRAYER.

AND, OF COURSE, PEOPLE

RESPONDED.

WHAT IS FASCINATING ABOUT

THIS, PAT, IS THESE YOUNG

PEOPLE ARE DOING WHAT

THEIR ELDERS, THOSE IN

AUTHORITY WILL NOT, AND

THAT IS STANDING UP TO

THESE MILITANT ATHEIST

GROUPS AND SAY, I HAVE A

RIGHT TO FOLLOW JESUS AND

TELL OTHERS ABOUT HIM.

Pat: HAVE YOU FOUND A

LOT OF COWARDNESS ON THIS?

[LAUGHTER]

Pat: GO AHEAD AND

TELL US ABOUT IT.

WE HAVE.

WE HAVE CHRISTIANS WHO ARE

FEARFUL OF MAN.

WHAT STARTED THIS WHOLE

THING WAS A BIBLE STUDY I

DID A NUMBER OF YEARS AGO,

AND THE WORDS NO FEAR, OR

FEAR NOT.

AND IN ALMOST EVERY CASE,

PAT, WHEN YOU LOOK AT

THAT, GOD IS TELLING

ORDINARY PEOPLE HAVE NO

FEAR.

ON THE BACK SIDE OF THAT,

HE DOES EXTRAORDINARY

THINGS FOR THOSE WHO

CHOOSE TO TRUST HIM.

HERE IS WHAT WE HAVE: WE

HAVE TO CHOOSE BETWEEN

FAITH AND FEAR.

FAITH SAYS ADVANCE.

FEAR SAYS RETREAT.

YOU CAN'T DO BOTH.

AND, AGAIN, WHAT IS

ENCOURAGING TO ME IS I SEE

IN THESE YOUNG PEOPLE,

MOSTLY MILLENNIALS,

THEY'RE CHOOSING TO

EXPRESS THEIR FAITH IN GOD

AND NOT SHRINK BACK.

WHAT HAS BEEN THE PROBLEM

IN THE CHURCH IS INSTEAD

OF TAKING THE MESSAGE THAT

SAID, TAKE UP YOUR CROSS

AND FOLLOW ME, WE'VE SAID,

TAKE UP YOUR PICNIC BASKET

AND LET'S GO FOR A WALK.

THE YOUNG PEOPLE ARE

WAITING FOR THE CHALLENGE.

Pat: HOW DO YOU GET

YOUR BOOK?

IT IS IN BOOKSTORES ALL

ACROSS AMERICA.

OR YOU CAN GO TO

TonyPerkins.com .

WE LAY A BIBLICAL

FOUNDATION FOR TAKING THE

STAND.

WE WANT PEOPLE TO STAND

FOR CHRIST.

Pat: THIS WOULD BE A

GREAT GIFT THIS TIME OF

YEAR, TO THEIR CHILDREN

WHO ARE STARTING SCHOOL.

"NO FEAR."

THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE.

THANK YOU, PAT.

Terry: UP NEXT, THE

NEW MOVIE THAT IS A TRUE

STORY OF RACIAL

RECONCILIATION.

"WOODLAWN" STAR CALEB

CASTILLE JOINS US, ALONG

WITH THE PRODUCER, KEVIN

TOWNES.

Terry: IMAGINE,

ALMOST AN ENTIRE HISTORY

FOOTBALL TEAM GIVING THEIR

LIVES TO JESUS CHRIST.

THEN IMAGINE THEIR ARCH

RIVALS DOING THE SAME.

YOU DON'T HAVE TO IMAGINE

IT.

IT IS HISTORY.

AND IT IS PART OF A NEW

MOVIE OPENING TOMORROW.

Reporter: "WOODLAWN"

IS THE STORY OF FAITH,

HOPE, AND THE

RECONCILIATION OF A TORN

CITY.

1970s, BIRMINGHAM,

ALABAMA, WAS RIFE WITH

RACIAL PROBLEMS.

WOODLAWN HIGH WAS ONE OF

THE LAST SCHOOLS TO BE

INTEGRATED.

TONY NATHAN, A TALENTED

RUNNINGBACK WHO IMPROVED

THE TEAM, AND THE COACH

KNEW HE WOULD BE A

DANGEROUS CHOICE, BUT HE

KNEW SOMETHING WAS

HAPPENING THAT WAS MUCH

BIGGER THAN HIMSELF, THE

FOOTBALL TEAM, OR THE

SCHOOL.

Terry: PLEASE WELCOME

FROM THE MOVIE "WOODLAWN,"

ACTOR CALEB CASTILLE AND

PRODUCER KEVIN TONEES.

KEVIN, WHY THIS MOVIE AT

THIS TIME?

GOD LED US TO MAKE THIS

MOVIE.

THERE IS NO OTHER ANSWER

FOR IT.

IT IS SO TIMELY FOR WHAT

IS GOING ON IN OUR COUNTRY

TODAY.

WHILE WE WERE SHOOTING,

THE VERDICT OF FERGUSON

WAS ACTUALLY HAPPENING.

WE COULDN'T HAVE PREDICTED

ALL OF THESE EVENTS.

BECAUSE OUR COUNTRY IS IN

NEED OF UNITY AND HEALING,

AND I THINK "WOODLAWN"

OFFERS A GLIMPSE OF WHAT

IT COULD BE LIKE.

Terry: CALEB, LET ME

ASK YOU HOW YOU GOT THE

LEAD ROLE IN THIS.

I KNOW THERE IS AN

INTERESTING STORY BEHIND

THAT.

A DEFINITELY

INTERESTING STORY.

I PLAYED COLLEGE FOOTBALL

AT THE UNIVERSITY OF

ALABAMA, AND I SAW ACTING

AS A MEDIUM TO MAKE A

DIFFERENCE IN THE WORLD

TODAY, IN WHICH IT IS SO

SHAPED BY OUR CULTURE.

I WENT OUT FOR ACTING, AND

ABOUT TWO YEARS INTO THAT

PROCESS, HERE COMES

"WOODLAWN."

I AUDITIONED FOR THE PART

OF TONY NATHAN, AND I DID

NOT GET THE PART AT FIRST.

THROUGH FOUR WEEKS OF

REHEARSALS AS A STUNT

DOUBLE, ACTUALLY, AND THEN

THREE DAYS BEFORE

PRODUCTION, THEY GIVE ME A

CALL, AND THEY SAY, HEY,

YOU KNOW WHAT?

WE THINK YOU MIGHT BE FIT

TO PLAY TONY BECAUSE --

Terry: WERE YOU

SHOCKED AT THAT POINT?

VERY.

Terry: ISN'T THAT SO

GOD?

SO GOD.

HE HAD PREPARED ME IN WAYS

I DIDN'T EVEN NOTICE.

Terry: AND LOTS OF

TIMES HE WANTS US TO BE

SURE THAT THE OPEN DOOR

CAME FROM HIM.

VERY MUCH SO.

[LAUGHTER]

Terry: TALK A LITTLE

ABOUT THE REAL TONY NATHAN

AND WHAT YOU'VE LEARNED.

I'M SURE YOU STUDIED THE

STORY AND ALL OF THE

BACKGROUND AND HISTORY.

TONY IS SUCH A

GENTLEMAN, BUT SO POWERFUL

AT THE SAME TIME.

HOW CAN YOU BE SO LOVING

WHEN YOU'RE SO HATED, AND

BE SO STRONG, AND YET SO

GENTLE.

AND BE SO TALENTED AND YET

SO HUMBLE.

IT WAS JUST FASCINATING TO

GET TO KNOW HIM BECAUSE HE

STANDS UP TO EVERY BIT OF

HIS LEGEND.

Terry: WE HAVE SO

MUCH GOING ON IN OUR

COUNTRY TODAY WITH RACIAL

TENSION, BUT IN THE DAY

THAT YOU ALL WERE TELLING

THE STORY OF, IT WAS

REALLY, REALLY INTENSE.

SO TO HAVE THAT KIND OF

POWER FROM GENTLENESS IS

QUITE A STATEMENT.

HOW CLOSE TO REALITY IS

THIS STORY?

HOW CLOSE TO WHAT ACTUALLY

HAPPENED IS IT?

MANY EVENTS IN THIS

FILM ACTUALLY HAPPENED.

WHAT IS WONDERFUL, IN THE

EARLY '70s WAS THIS

JESUS MOVEMENT.

WE HAD A TIE-DIED MOVEMENT

ON THE COVER.

AND OUR HEART IS THAT

"WOODLAWN" COULD SPARK A

REVIVAL IN OUR NATION,

BECAUSE I THINK OUR NATION

IS LOOKING FOR HOPE AND

LOOKING FOR A WAY.

Terry: IT WAS DURING

THAT TIME THAT I CAME TO

CHRIST.

IT WAS SUCH AN AWESOME

TIME TO BE A BELIEVER, TO

SEE THE POWER OF GOD.

TALK A LITTLE, IF YOU

WILL, ABOUT THE POWER OF

GOD TO CHANGE THINGS.

BECAUSE THAT'S REALLY WHAT

IS NEEDED NOW.

AND IT'S WHAT WORKED THEN.

I THINK THAT IT'S --

PEOPLE WANT TO BRING

POLITICS INTO IT AND ALL

OF THAT.

I DON'T THINK THERE IS A

FORMULA TO IT.

I THINK YOU LOVE GOD AND

YOU LOVE PEOPLE.

I THINK IT IS A SIMPLE

STATEMENT.

AND THERE IS -- I THINK IT

CAN HELP HEAL OUR COUNTRY.

Terry: PEOPLE HAVE

SAID THAT THE FOOTBALL

SCENES IN THIS MOVIE ARE

REVOLUTIONARY.

WHAT DID YOU DO

DIFFERENTLY?

THE DIRECTORS, JOHN AND

ANDREW IRWIN ARE FORMER

ESPN FOOTBALL CAMERAMEN.

THEY ARE SO GOOD AT WHAT

THEY DO.

THEY SAID, WE WANT TO MAKE

SURE THE AUDIENCE IS IN

THE GAME, AND THE FOOTBALL

IS RELEVANT FOR THE NEXT

GENERATION THAT IS

WATCHING FOOTBALL ON TV.

AS CALEB CAN ATTEST, THE

FOOTBALL WAS VERY REAL.

THESE GUYS ARE HITTING AND

DOING ALL OF THE THINGS.

VERY REAL.

Terry: WHO WAS YOUR

DOUBLE?

I HAD TWO GUYS WHO WERE

GREAT.

I WAS THANKFUL FOR THEM,

TOO.

Terry: I BET YOU WERE

BECAUSE FOOTBALL IS SUCH

AN INTENSE GAME.

WHAT DO YOU WANT PEOPLE TO

TAKE AWAY FROM THE MOVIE,

KEVIN, WHEN THEY SEE IT?

WHAT DO YOU WANT PEOPLE TO

WALK AWAY SAYING?

THE FIRST THING I WANT

TO MAKE SURE IS PEOPLE

UNDERSTAND THIS IS A

FAMILY MOVIE.

IT IS RATED P.G.

AND I THINK YOU CAN COME

AWAY UNDERSTANDING THE

LOVE AND APPRECIATION AND

AMAZEMENT FOR WHO OUR GOD

IS.

HE LOVED US SO MUCH THAT

HE GAVE HIS SON TO DIE ON

A CROSS.

THAT EXAMPLE IS THE THEME

THROUGHOUT HIS ENTIRE

FILM.

Terry: IN A DAY THAT

WE LIVE IN WHERE WE'RE

SEEING COACHES CHALLENGED

SIMPLY BECAUSE THEY PRAY,

AND THEIR PLAYERS WANT TO

PRAY FREELY AND

INDEPENDENTLY WITH THEM,

THERE IS A STRONG MESSAGE

IN WHAT YOU BRING IN THIS

MOVIE.

WE SURELY NEED IT TODAY.

WE ARE EXCITED ABOUT THE

FACT THAT IT IS COMING OUT

TOMORROW.

TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT

WHAT IS NEXT FOR YOU GUYS.

I'M SURE AS THIS ONE IS

GOING INTO THE GARAGE,

WHAT'S COMING UP NEXT?

WELL, WE'RE PRAYING

ABOUT WHAT GOD WOULD HAVE

US DO NEXT.

RIGHT NOW, THE LAST COUPLE

OF WEEKS OUR FOCUS HAS

BEEN ON "WOODLAWN" AND

REALLY PRAYING FOR A

REVIVAL AND AWAKENING IN

AMERICA.

AND I'M SURE GOD WILL PUT

SOMETHING IN OUR HEARTS TO

TACKLE AND BRING OUT.

Terry: CALEB, WHAT

ABOUT YOU?

I'M LOOKING FOR ANOTHER

JOB THAT WOULD GIVE ME THE

SAME FULFILLMENT, AND A

STORY OF PURPOSE AND LOVE

AND UNITY, AND ALL OF

THOSE THINGS RIGHT NOW

THAT WE NEED IN OUR

COUNTRY.

Terry: AN OPPORTUNITY

TO MAKE A DIFFERENCE.

THAT'S IT.

Terry: AN OPPORTUNITY

TO MAKE A DIFFERENCE.

TWO YEARS OUT THERE BEFORE

THIS DOOR OPENED, I'M SURE

THERE WERE SOME ROUGH DAYS

WHERE YOU WONDERED, GOD,

AM I DOING THE RIGHT

THING?

YEAH.

Terry: IT IS TOUGH IN

YOUR BUSINESS.

WE PRAY FOR YOU, AND WE

SUPPORT WHAT YOU'RE DOING

GOING TO SEE "WOODLAWN."

IT OPENS NATIONWIDE

TOMORROW.

IT IS JUST AN OUTSTANDING

FILM.

THANK YOU TO BOTH OF YOU

FOR YOUR ROLE IN ALL OF

THAT.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

Terry: VICKI SAYS,

"HOW DOES ONE RECONCILE

ONE'S FAITH WORKING AT A

COMPANY THAT IS LESS THAN

ETHICAL IN ITS BUSINESS

PRACTICES?"

WE'LL LET PAT TACKLE THAT

HOT POTATO AND MORE, AND

Efrem: WELCOME BACK

TO "THE 700 CLUB."

PRESIDENT OBAMA PLANS TO

EXTEND THE U.S. MILITARY

ROLE IN AFGHANISTAN PAST

2016, WHITE HOUSE

OFFICIALS SAY HE NOW PLANS

TO KEEP 5500 U.S. TROOPS

IN AFGHANISTAN, EVEN AFTER

HE LEAVES OFFICE, HANDING

THE CONFLICT OVER TO HIS

SUCCESSOR.

THE PRESIDENT HAD PROMISED

TO END THE WAR ON HIS

WATCH, BUT MILITARY

ADVISORS SAY THE TROOPS

ARE NEEDED TO PUSH BACK

AGAINST A RESURGENCE OF

THE TALIBAN.

> POLICE IN NEW YORK SAY

TWO TEENAGED BROTHERS WERE

BRUTALLY BEATEN IN CHURCH,

AND ONE OF THEM DIED.

THE POLICE SAY THE

BEATINGS CAME IN EFFORT BY

THEIR BROTHERS, PARENTS,

SISTERS, AND OTHER MEMBERS

OF THE CONGREGATION, TO

FORCE THEM TO CONFESS

THEIR SINS AND SEEK

FORGIVENESS.

SIX CHURCH MEMBERS,

INCLUDING THEIR PARENTS

AND SISTER, HAVE BEEN

ARRESTED.

THEY'VE ALL ENTERED NOT

GUILTY PLEAS.

> REMEMBER, YOU CAN

ALWAYS GET THE LATEST FROM

CBN NEWS BY GOING TO OUR

WEBSITE AT cbnnews.com.

PAT AND TERRY ARE BACK

WITH MORE OF "THE 700

CLUB."

IT'S COMING UP RIGHT AFTER

THIS.

Terry: TIME TO "BRING

IT ON" WITH YOUR E-MAIL

QUESTIONS.

AND, PAT, THIS FIRST ONE

IS FROM VICKI WHO SAYS,

"HOW DOES ONE RECONCILE

WITH ONE'S FAITH WORKING

AT A COMPANY THAT IS LESS

THAN ETHICAL IN ITS

BUSINESS PRACTICES?

I WORK WITH COLLEGE

STUDENTS WITH LEARNING

DISABILITIES, AND THE

COMPANY IS WAY OVER

CHARGING THE FAMILIES."

Pat: I THINK -- YOU

SAY, HOW DO YOU RECONCILE?

I DON'T THINK YOU OUGHT TO

TRY TO RECONCILE.

I THINK YOU OUGHT TO QUIT.

IT COULD BE YOU CAN TELL

THE BOSSES THAT THEY'RE

OVERCHARGING, BUT THEY'LL

PROBABLY FIRE YOU ANYHOW.

Terry: FOR CERTAIN.

Pat: BUT,

NEVERTHELESS, YOU CAN'T

CONTINUE TO DO THAT.

YOU'RE ENABLING THEM TO DO

STUFF THAT YOU THINK IS

IMMORAL AND UNETHICAL,

ILLEGAL, ETC.

Terry: SHOULD SHE SAY

SOMETHING TO THE FAMILIES,

DO YOU THINK?

Pat: NO.

IT GETS TO BE SLANDER.

YOU WILL WIND UP GETTING

SUED BY THE COMPANY.

YOU'VE GOT TO TO BE CAREFUL

BECAUSE YOU GET SUED.

THEY'LL COME AFTER YOU --

THAT'S WHY IS SO BAD.

THE BIG THING IS, GET

ANOTHER JOB.

Terry: THIS IS ROBIN

WHO SAYS, "PAT, I HEARD

YOU ANSWER A QUESTION ON

TUESDAY REGARDING FAITH

AND HEALING.

MY QUANDARY WITH YOUR VIEW

IS WHY HAVE YOU UNDERGONE

SURGERIES WHEN YOU'RE

FAITH SHOULD BE ENOUGH.

THIS IS A SINCERE

QUESTION."

Pat: I DON'T THINK

RELIGION, FAITH, AND

MEDICINE ARE NECESSARILY

ENEMIES.

I THINK GODLY PEOPLE ARE

USED BY GOD TO COME FORTH

WITH HEALING TECHNIQUES

THAT ALLEVIATE SICKNESS

AND SUFFERING AND SO

FORTH.

I'VE BEEN SIMPLY AMAZED AT

THE WONDERS THAT THE

MEDICAL PROFESSION CAN

PERFORM.

YOU SAY, HOW COME YOU

DIDN'T PRAY THAT SOMETHING

GET TAKEN AWAY.

THE LORD MAY SAY, YOU

PRAYED AND GO TO SEE THAT

DOCTOR, AND HE'LL TAKE THE

MOLE OFF YOUR CHIN OR

SOMETHING.

Terry: YEAH.

EXACTLY.

Pat: I DON'T KNOW

WHAT ELSE TO SAY.

IF YOU HAVE ENOUGH

FAITH -- MAYBE I DON'T

HAVE ENOUGH.

BUT I HAVE FAITH IN OTHER

PEOPLE.

BUT FOR MYSELF, I THINK I

DID THE RIGHT THING.

Terry: THIS IS JACOB

WHO SAYS, "I LIKE TO RAP

AS A HOBBY, AND HOPE TO

ENCOURAGE PEOPLE ABOUT

NEVER GIVING UP IN LIFE.

I MAKE SURE THAT MY RAP IS

CLEAN.

I WANT TO BE KNOWN FOR

BEING A SECULAR RAPPER, SO

AM I SINNING?

ALSO, CAN YOU WISH ME GOOD

LUCK ON MAKING AN IMPACT

IN THIS WORLD?"

Pat: I'LL TELL YOU,

RAP TO ME IS A BUNCH OF

GIBBERISH.

BUT IT IS SOME PRETTY

CLEVER STUFF.

THE WAY THEY DO IT IS SO

CLEVER.

IT IS SO HARD FOR SOME TO

UNDERSTAND WHAT THEY'RE

SAYING.

THERE IS NOTHING WRONG

WITH RAP.

IT IS WHEN YOU PUT DIRTY

LYRICS IN IT THAT IS IT IS

WRONG.

Terry: "HI, PAT, I

HEARD YOU STATE, QUOTE,"IF

IT IS GOD'S WILL FOR US TO

BE HEALED," BECAUSE IT

SHOWS A LACK OF FAITH.

HOW WOULD WE KNOW GOD'S

WILL PERTAINING HOW HE

WOULD HEAL US, HE COULD

USE DOCTORS TO DO IT, DO

IT SUPER NATURALLY, ETC.."

Pat: THAT'S EXACTLY

WHAT HE WILL SHOW YOU.

BUT WHY DON'T YOU ASK HIM.

THE TREATMENT FOR CANCER

IS CHEMOTHERAPY, AND

APPARENTLY IT KILLS

HEALTHY CELLS AS WELL AS

DISEASED CELLS, AND I

FOUND TIME AND TIME AGAIN,

WHEN PEOPLE GET INVOLVED

IN STRONG CHEMOTHERAPY, IT

IS ALMOST IMPOSSIBLE TO

GET ENOUGH FAITH TO GET

THEM HEALED.

BECAUSE THEY'RE SO FAR

DOWN BECAUSE OF THIS

TREATMENT THAT THEY'VE

HAD.

AND IT'S KIND OF LIKE LUCK

IF THEY COME OUT OF IT.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO SAY

EXCEPT, THE QUESTION AGAIN

WAS --

Terry: THEY WANT TO

KNOW, HOW WOULD YOU KNOW

WHAT GOD WOULD HAVE THEM

WHETHER YOU GO TO A

DOCTOR --

Pat: I THINK YOU NEED

TO PRACTICE THE PRESENCE

OF GOD.

YOU NEED TO KNOW WHAT HE

IS SAYING TO YOU.

THERE ARE TIMES WHEN YOU

CAN JUST FEEL FAITH AND

YOU PRAY AND THE LORD

HEALS YOU.

I HAVE SEEN THAT IN MY

LIFE.

I HAD SOMETHING, AND I WAS

PRAYING, AND I WAS THERE

WITH MY WIFE.

AND I PRAYED, AND ALL OF A

SUDDEN I FELT THIS HEAT IN

THIS JOINT AND THE THING

WAS HEALED.

YOU DON'T KNOW.

HOW DO YOU KNOW?

YOU WALK WITH GOD.

THAT'S WHAT IT IS.

IT'S A WALK WITH HIM.

Terry: THIS IS JOHN

Terry: THIS IS JOHN

WHO SAYS, "IT HAS BEEN 10

YEARS SINCE MY WIFE AND I

SHARED THE SAME BEDROOM.

A YEAR AND A HALF WE TRIED

TO EVEN HOLD EACH OTHER.

THE ONLY REASONS WE'RE

TOGETHER ARE MONEY AND A

SPECIAL-NEEDS CHILD WE

PROMISED TO RAISE.

CAN WE DIVORCE BECAUSE SHE

REFUSES TO EVEN KISS ME,

OR IS THIS A SIN?"

Pat: THE WIFE'S BODY

BELONGS TO THE HUSBAND,

AND THE HUSBAND'S BODY

BELONGS TO THE WIFE.

THAT'S WHAT THE BIBLE

SAYS.

THAT WOMAN IS SINNING

AGAINST GOD.

AND IF THAT'S THE WAY SHE

WANTS TO LIVE, THAT'S

FINE.

BUT IN MY OPINION, IT IS

CONSTRUCTIVE DESERTION.

YOU CAN EITHER HAVE AN

ANNULMENT TO THE MARRIAGE,

PERHAPS, OR YOU CAN

CONSIDER IT DESERTION.

BUT I THINK TO BREAK THAT

MARRIAGE UP -- IT DOESN'T

EXIST.

SO I DON'T KNOW WHAT ELSE

TO SAY EXCEPT WHY SHOULD

YOU GO THROUGH TORMENT

YEAR AFTER YEAR AFTER

YEAR.

IT'S NOT RIGHT.

THE PERSON WHO IS

WITHHOLDING INTIMACY FROM

A SPOUSE IS SINNING

AGAINST GOD.

THAT'S WHAT THE BIBLE

SAYS.

I'M JUST QUOTING THE

BIBLE.

Terry: THIS IS MILLIE

WHO SAYS, "I HAVE SEARCHED

FOR AN ANSWER REGARDING

GAMBLING.

MY PASTOR HAS STATED WHY

NOT USE THE MONEY WON IN

GAMBLING, LOTTERIES, HORSE

RACING, THAT SATAN HAS

INTENDED FOR BAD FOR THE

GLORY OF GOD.

I DO NOT FEEL THIS IS

SOUND CHRISTIAN PRACTICE.

HOW WOULD YOWHAT DO YOU THINK?

Pat: THAT PAST IS

WRONG.

NEVERTHELESS, WHAT YOU'RE

DOING IS SHOVING YOUR

SHIPS ACROSS THE TABLE.

YOU'RE TELLING GOD, I

BELONG TO YOU, BUT, GOD,

I'M TESTING YOU NOW.

IF THAT LITTLE BALL

DOESN'T COME INTO RED 16,

I'VE LOST MY MONEY AND IT

IS YOUR FAULT.

AND THE BIBLE SAYS, THOU

SHALT NOT TEMPT THE LORD

THY GOD.

SO WHETHER IT IS A HORSE

RACE OR POKER OR ROULETTE

OR WHATEVER -- AND THERE

ARE MANY OTHER WAYS OF

GAMBLING -- I JUST THINK

IT IS WRONG BECAUSE YOUR

TEMPTING GOD.

THAT'S WHAT IT AMOUNTS TO.

NOW, GAMBLING BECOMES AN

ADDICTION, JUST LIKE

DRUGS.

IT'S THAT HIGH THAT PEOPLE

GET -- THEY'RE RIGHT UP

AGAINST THE EDGE OF

SOMETHING, AND IT'S THAT

FEELING THAT YOU GET WHEN

YOU'RE GOING OVER A ROLLER

COASTER.

AND PEOPLE GET THAT HIGH.

AND IT'S KIND OF LIKE A

NARCOTIC.

BUT A GAMBLING ADDICTION

IS EVER BIT AS BAD AS THE

ADDICTION TO DRUGS.

AND SO FOR A PASTOR TO

RECOMMEND THAT PEOPLE DO

THAT AND SORT OF GLOSS

OVER IT AND SAY IT IS A

HOLY THING, THAT'S

NONSENSE.

Terry: AGREED.

Pat: I DO NOT WISH TO

ENCOURAGE ANYBODY TO GET

ADDICTED TO GAMBLING.

Terry: I DO KNOW A

NUMBER OF PEOPLE WHO ARE

ADDICTED TO GAMBLING, AND

IT IS VERY DIFFICULT TO

GET OUT OF.

Pat: I NEVER HAVE

BEEN ADDICTED SINCE.

BEFORE I FOUND THE LORD, I

LOST ALL OF MY MONEY IN A

POKER GAME.

THEY WERE CHEATING ME, I

THINK.

THEY ALWAYS CHEAT IN THOSE

CASINOS.

I WOUND UP SPENDING THE

NIGHT WITH IN A BEDROOM ON

A MOUNTAIN.

AND THIS COWBOY THAT

HAPPENED TO BE WITH ME

HOCKED HIS SPURS, GOT

$3.50 SO WE COULD EAT

BREAKFAST.

IT AIN'T FUN.

Terry: CASINOS FALL

UNDER THE STATEMENT THAT

IT'S FOR YOUR INFORMATION

AND THEIR BENEFIT.

Pat: I SHOULDN'T SAY

THE BIG CASINOS CHEAT --

THEY DON'T.

THEY'RE HIGHLY REGULATED.

BUT THE ONES I WAS

FAMILIAR WITH YEARS AND

YEARS AGO, THOSE GAMES ARE

NOT HONEST, AND YOU LOSE

YOUR MONEY.

Terry: I AGREE.

Pat: I COULD GO ON

AND ON.

Terry: WE GET IT.

Pat: GAMBLERS

ANONYMOUS.

> ALL RIGHT, RIGHT NOW I

WANT YOU TO MEET A COUPLE

OF "700 CLUB" PARTNERS AND

HEAR WHY THEY LIKE WHAT

CBN IS DOING AROUND THE

WORLD.

TAKE A LOOK.

Reporter: DONNY SPECK

RUNS A FLOURISHING

BUSINESS, AND HE AND HIS

WIFE TITHE AND GIVE TO

CBN.

WHEN I HEAR ON THE

SHOW, PAT TALKING ABOUT

WHEN YOU GIVE, LIVES ARE

CHANGED.

SALVATION IS SPOKEN, AND

THE GOSPEL IS SPREAD

AROUND THE WORLD THROUGH

CBN.

THEY PROVIDE CLEAN WATER

FOR PEOPLE AND FOOD.

I WILL PROBABLY NEVER MEET

THOSE PEOPLE THIS SIDE OF

HEAVEN, BUT I BELIEVE SOME

DAY I WILL MEET THEM.

WE'RE TO BE THE HANDS AND

THE FEET OF JESUS, AND I

KNOW CBN DOES THAT.

THEY'RE VERY GOOD STEWARDS

OF GOD'S MONEY.

AND THEY'RE ACCOUNTABLE,

AND I TOTALLY RESPECT WHAT

THEY DO.

I DO ENJOY "THE 700

CLUB."

AND THE NEWS THAT WE GET

IS MORE INFORMATIVE AND

TRUTHFUL AND REALISTIC

THAN THE NEWS THAT YOU

HEAR IN YOUR DAY-TO-DAY

NEWS BROADCAST.

Reporter: DONNY AND

PATTY KNOW THAT WHEN THEY

GIVE, GOD IS ALWAYS

FAITHFUL.

SCRIPTURE SAYS THAT IN

THE MEASURE YOU GIVE, IT

WILL BE GIVEN BACK TO YOU,

PRESSED DOWN, SHAKEN

TOGETHER, RUNNING OVER.

HE GIVES GRACIOUSLY AND

ABUNDANTLY, ABOVE ALL WE

COULD EVER ASK.

THE BEST INVESTMENT YOU

COULD MAKE IS IN THE

KINGDOM OF GOD.

Pat: GOD USES FOLKS

LIKE THAT TO HELP CBN STAY

ON THE AIR, PAY ITS BILLS,

DO WHAT WE HAVE TO DO, TO

REACH OUT TO PEOPLE AROUND

THE WORLD.

I AM SO GRATEFUL TO THEM.

WHAT I WANT TO DO FOR

THOSE WHO JOIN "THE 700

CLUB," I WANT TO GIVE YOU

SOMETHING WHICH I THINK

CAN BE A BLESSING.

IT'S CALLED "THE

TRANSFORMING WORD."

AND I WAS PRIVILEGED TO GO

INTO OUR AUDIO ROOM AND

HAVE SELECTED SCRIPTURES

AND READ THEM, PRAYING,

HOPEFULLY, THAT THE LORD

WOULD USE IT.

AND ITS CALLED "THE

TRANSFORMING WORD."

IT IS A D.V.D. AND A C.D.

AND TERRY HAS A COMMENT.

Terry: THIS IS

ISRAEL, WHO LIVES IN

GEORGIA, WHO SAYS, "THE

TRANSFORMING WORD," VERSES

TO OVERCOME FEAR, IS AN

EXCELLENT AND EASILY

ACCESSIBLE TOOL THAT

REMINDS US OF HOW GOD

PROVIDES FOR US THROUGH

HIS WORD.

IT IS REALLY INSPIRING.

IT REALLY IS.

I ENJOY IT EVERY DAY.

Pat: FEAR NOT.

WHAT'S NEXT?

Terry: UP NEXT, A

YOUNG WOMAN IS HELD

CAPTIVE FOR THREE DAYS AND

SEXUALLY ABUSED.

I WAS SO TERRIFIED, AND

I ASKED GOD, PLEASE,

PLEASE, GOD, DON'T LET ME

DIE.

THERE IS NO WAY OUT OF

THIS SITUATION EXCEPT FOR

IF YOU HELP ME, GOD.

Terry: WATCH HOW SHE

ESCAPED WHEN WE COME BACK.

Terry: I CAN'T TRUST

ANYONE.

I'M NOT SAFE WITH ANYONE.

THAT'S WHAT 12-YEAR-OLD

RACHEL REPEATEDLY TOLD

HERSELF AFTER SHE WAS

RAPED BY TWO NEIGHBORS.

HER VIOLATION SET OFF A

CYCLE OF SHAME AND

SELF-ABUSE THAT STALKED

HER WELL INTO ADULTHOOD

AND ALMOST KILLED HER.

I FELT SO DEFILED, AND

I FELT LIKE ALL OF THE

INNOCENCE THAT I EVER HAD,

LIKE IT WAS TAKEN FROM ME.

Reporter: RACHEL WAS

JUST 12 YEARS OLD WHEN TWO

TEENAGED BOYS LURED HER

INTO A HOME AND RAPED HER.

IT CRUSHED MY HEART.

IT BROKE MY TRUST OF MEN,

OF PEOPLE.

Reporter: THE TWO

WERE ARRESTED AND

CONVICTED OF RAPE, BUT

THAT DID LITTLE TO EASE

THE PAIN.

AT 14, SHE STARTED CUTTING

AND DOVE INTO THE GOTHIC

LIFESTYLE.

SHE DABBLED IN WICCA AND

FANTASIZED ABOUT DEATH.

ON THE INSIDE, I FELT

SO DEAD AND SO NUMB.

AND I REALLY WANTED TO

DIE.

Reporter: THROUGHOUT

HER TEENS AND 20S, RACHEL

WAS IN AND OUT OF JAIL ON

DRUG-RELATED CHARGES.

THEN AT 21, SHE HAD A

DAUGHTER AND BECAME A

SINGLE MOM.

SHE MARRIED THE FOLLOWING

YEAR AND EVENTUALLY HAD A

SON.

AFTER SHE AND HER HUSBAND

DIVORCED, RACHEL LOST

CUSTODY OF HER SON AND

TURNED TO HARDER DRUGS,

LIKE METH.

MAY HEART WAS REALLY

BROKEN, AND THERE WAS AN

EMPTINESS THAT CAME THAT

IS INDESCRIBABLE.

Reporter: ONE DAY

RACHEL WENT TO A FRIEND'S

HOUSE, AND WHEN SHE

ARRIVED, HE BARRICADED THE

DOORS AND FOR THREE DAYS

PUMPED HER WITH HEROIN AND

SEXUALLY ABUSED HER.

ANY AMOUNT OF PEACE I

HAD IN MY HEART, AND ANY

HOPE I HAD FOR ANYTHING TO

EVER GET BETTER WAS

COMPLETELY TAKEN AWAY.

I WAS SO TERRIFIED.

AND I ASKED GOD, PLEASE,

PLEASE, GOD, DON'T LET ME

DIE.

Reporter: FINALLY

AFTER THREE DAYS, THE MAN

LET HER GO.

RACHEL SAYS SHORTLY

AFTERWARD, AN EVEN DARKER

DOOR OPENED UP IN HER

LIFE.

SHE STARTED CUTTING EVEN

MORE.

HERE IS WHERE I SLICED

THROUGH MY ARM WITH A

KNIFE.

IT WAS A WAY TO RELEASE

THE PAIN AND THE BOTTLED

UP EMOTIONS THAT I WAS

FEELING.

AND I DIDN'T KNOW HOW TO

GET IT OUT.

SO I WOULD CUT MYSELF.

Reporter: SHE FINALLY

REALIZED NEITHER THE DRUGS

NOR CUTTING WOULD BRING

RELIEF.

I JUST CRIED OUT TO

GOD.

AND I SAID, GOD, PLEASE

HELP ME.

I NEED A MIRACLE.

I NEED YOU TO SEND YOUR

ANGELS TO HELP ME.

THERE IS NO WAY OUT OF

THIS SITUATION EXCEPT FOR

IF YOU HELP ME, GOD.

AND I'M SORRY FOR FIGHTING

AGAINST YOU.

Reporter: A FEW DAYS

LATER, RACHEL AND HER

DAUGHTER MET A COUPLE WHO

TOLD HER ABOUT JESUS AND

THAT SHE NEEDED TO PUT HER

TRUST IN HIM.

I CONFESSED THAT I WAS

A SINNER AND THAT I NEEDED

JESUS, AND THAT I NEEDED

HIM TO COME AND TAKE OVER

MY LIFE.

AND I SURRENDERED

EVERYTHING TO HIM.

Reporter: SHE STILL

NEEDED TO BE HEALED FROM

THE WOUNDS OF ABUSE.

SHE SOON MET SCOTT AND

SANDY BOYD.

BOTH WERE PASTORS WHO

SPENT THE NEXT 30 DAYS

HELPING RACHEL FIND

FREEDOM IN CHRIST.

HE LED ME THROUGH

SEVERAL RENOUNCIATION

PRAYERS TO RENOUNCE DRUGS,

ALCOHOLISM, PAGANISM, ALL

OF THAT STUFF.

IT WAS A PROCESS.

Reporter: THEY ALSO

HELPED HER FORGIVE HER

ABUSERS.

I WAS, LIKE, I NEED

GOD'S FORGIVENESS, SO I'LL

FORGIVE.

Reporter: AT THE END

OF THE 30 DAYS, RACHEL

SAYS SHE WALKED IN FREEDOM

SHE NEVER EXPERIENCED

BEFORE.

IT WAS LIKE I WAS A

TOTALLY DIFFERENT PERSON,

AND I COULD BREATHE.

THIS WAS MY MOMENT OF,

LIKE, I AM A NEW CREATURE.

I AM A NEW BEING.

AND I HAVE A WHOLE NEW

LIFE, LIKE, IN FRONT OF

ME.

AND THINGS JUST STARTED TO

CHANGE.

Reporter: TODAY

RACHEL IS RAISING IVY, WHO

IS NOW A TEENAGER, AND SHE

HAS RECONNECTED WITH HER

SON.

RACHEL IS MARRIED TO

MICAH, AND SHE AND HER

HUSBAND SERVE AS

MISSIONARIES IN FINLAND,

WHERE THEY TEACH OTHERS

ABOUT THE LOVE AND FREEDOM

THAT CAN ONLY BE FOUND IN

JESUS CHRIST.

I NEVER STARTED LIVING

UNTIL I MET HIM.

HIS LOVE REALLY DOES

CHANGE EVERYTHING.

HE TAKES THE MOST BROKEN,

IMPOSSIBLE, HOPELESS MESS

AND HE CAN TURN IT AROUND

INTO SOMETHING BEAUTIFUL.

Terry: YOU KNOW, YOU

DON'T REALLY START LIVING

UNTIL YOU MEET HIM, UNTIL

YOU KNOW HIM, UNTIL YOU

LET HIM KNOW YOU BECAUSE

THAT'S WHAT YOU WERE

CREATED FOR.

THAT'S THE WAY IT IS

SUPPOSED TO BE.

AND SO WHEN WE FIGHT

AGAINST GOD, WHEN WE

REJECT HIM, WHEN WE REFUSE

TO HEAR THE THINGS THAT HE

HAS CREATED FOR US SO THAT

WE WOULD FEEL SAFE, SO WE

WOULD KNOW WE'RE LOVED, SO

WE COULD HAVE LIFE AND

HAVE IT ABUNDANTLY --

JESUS SAID THAT'S WHY HE

CAME.

IS YOUR LIFE ABUNDANT WITH

GOODNESS AND BLESSING,

WITH JOY, WITH PEACE?

YOU KNOW, WE TALKED

EARLIER ABOUT THE VERSES

THAT PAT PUT INTO THAT

C.D. AND D.V.D. TEACHING

THAT HE HAS GOT FOR US, TO

REMOVE FEAR FROM YOUR

LIFE, TO GIVE YOU THE JOY

AND THE PEACE THAT GOD

WANTS FOR YOU.

IF YOU AREN'T LIVING THAT,

IT IS BECAUSE YOU'RE

CHOOSING NOT TO.

THE BIBLE SAYS ANYONE CAN

HAVE IT.

GOD LOVES YOU.

EVEN IN THE MIDST OF YOUR

REBELLION, AND MAYBE

YOU'VE COME TO THE END OF

YOUR ROPE, LIKE RACHEL

THAT, WHERE THERE IS NO

HOPE LEFT AND IT IS JUST

DARK.

AND YOU THINK, HOW DO I

EVER GET OUT OF THIS?

HOW DO I EVER START OVER

AGAIN?

I CAN'T THINK OF A BETTER

WAY THAN TO GO TO YOUR

MAKER, THE ONE WHO CREATED

YOU WITH A PLAN AND A

PURPOSE IN MIND.

YOU DON'T HAVE TO CLEAN

YOURSELF UP.

YOU DON'T HAVE TO GET

BETTER.

YOU DON'T HAVE TO BE GOOD

ENOUGH.

IN FACT, THE TRUTH IS YOU

CAN'T.

THAT'S WHY JESUS CAME,

BECAUSE WE ARE SINNERS IN

NEED OF A SAVIOR.

HE SAYS, LET ME CLEAN YOU

UP.

LET ME LOVE YOU.

LET ME SHOW YOU WHAT YOU

WERE CREATED FOR.

LET ME TAKE ALL OF THE

FILT ANFILTH AND THE SHAME.

I CHALLENGE YOU TODAY TO

FIND WHERE ELSE YOU WOULD

FIND THAT.

SO HOW DO YOU BEGIN IT?

YOU SIMPLY GET ON YOUR

FACE BEFORE GOD AND SAY,

GOD, FORGIVE ME.

I AM SO SORRY FOR THE

THINGS I'VE DONE.

AND I WANT TODAY TO

FORGIVE OTHERS FOR WHAT

THEY'VE DONE TO ME SO THAT

YOU CAN FORGIVE ME.

I WANT EVERYTHING YOU HAVE

TO GIVE ME, GOD.

I WANT TO BE A NEW

CREATION.

I WANT TO KNOW JESUS.

I WANT MY THINKING TO

CHANGE, MY HEART TO

CHANGE, MY LIFE TO CHANGE.

AND SO I'M GIVING IT ALL

TO YOU.

I'M ASKING YOU FOR A

START-OVER, AND I RECEIVE

TODAY EVERYTHING HAVE YOU

TO GIVE TO ME.

DO THAT TODAY.

JUST TALK TO HIM.

HE IS RIGHT HERE.

HE IS WAITING FOR YOU TO

INVITE HIM INTO YOURSELF.

HE WILL TAKE UP RESIDENCE

AND LIVE IN YOU, NEVER

LEAVING YOU AGAIN.

NEVER FORSAKING YOU.

YOU'LL NEVER BE ALONE.

YOU WILL CHANGE, JUST LIKE

RACHEL DID.

JUST LIKE I DID.

IF YOU'D LIKE TO PRAY WITH

SOMEONE TODAY, CALL THE

TOLL-FREE NUMBER THAT HAS

JUST COME UP ON YOUR

SCREEN.

IT'S 1-800-759-0700.

NO CONDEMNATION; JUST A

FRIEND WHO HAS ALREADY

PRAYED THAT PRAYER WHO

WOULD LOVE TO PRAY WITH

YOU.

IF YOU DID PRAY THAT

PRAYER TODAY, WE WANT TO

SEND YOU "A NEW DAY" THIS

IS YOURS AND IT IS FREE.

ASK FOR IT WHEN YOU CALL.

PAT?

Pat: THANKS, TERRY.

WE LEAVE YOU WITH TODAY'S

POWER MINUTE FROM FROM

ACTS: "WHOSOEVER CALLS ON

THE NAME OF THE LORD SHALL

BE SAVED."

ON TOMORROW, WE HAVE "DUCK

DYNASTY'S" MISSY ROBERTSON

JOINING US LIVE, ALONG

WITH HER DAUGHTER, MIA.

YOU DON'T WANT TO MISS IT.

ALL DAY LONG, OUR

TELEPHONES ARE AVAILABLE

IF YOU NEED PRAYER OR

COUNSELLING OR YOU NEED

SOMEBODY TO LAUGH WITH

YOU, CRY WITH YOU, OR PRAY

FOR YOU.

THE NUMBER IS TOLL-FREE.

UNTIL TOMORROW, FOR TERRY

AND ALL OF US, I'LL SEE

YOU TOMORROW.

BYE-BYE.

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