In their new movie Woodlawn, producer Kevin Downes and actor Caleb Castille tackle faith and football. Plus, Rachael recovered from a lifetime of abuse after finding freedom in Christ.
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Wendy: CHRISTIANITY
IS UNDER ATTACK, AND A NEW
CROP OF LEADERS ARE
FIGHTING BACK.
TONY PERKINS SHARES
STORIES OF THOSE STANDING
UP NO FOR THEIR FAITH.
PLUS...THE TRUE STORY OF A
TOWN TORN APART, AND THE
GAME WHERE MORE THAN
FOOTBALL WAS AT STAKE.
GO INSIDE THE NEW MOVIE,
"WOODLAWN," ON TODAY'S
"700 CLUB."
Pat: WELL, WE WELCOME
YOU TO "THE 700 CLUB."
WE'RE SO GLAD YOU'RE WITH
US.
WE HAVE A TERRIFIC PROGRAM
FOR YOU TODAY.
LISTEN TO THIS: KILL THE
JEWS, DEATH TO THE JEWS IN
THE NAME OF ALLAH.
THAT'S THE MESSAGE THAT
HAS BEEN GOING OUT TO
PALESTINIANS, AND NOW
THEY'RE RESPONDING WITH A
WAVE OF TERRORIST ATTACKS
ALL OVER ISRAEL.
IT SEEMS TO BE NO END IN
SIGHT.
Terry: SECRETARY OF
STATE JOHN KERRY SAYS
HE'LL BE HEADING TO THE
MIDDLE EAST SOON TO HELP
STOP THE VIOLENCE.
BUT PALESTINIAN PRESIDENT
MAHMOUD ABBAS IS RAMPING
UP THE VIOLENCE AGAINST
THE JEWISH STATE.
CHRIS MITCHELL BRINGS US
THE STORY.
Chris: ISRAEL SAYS
DECADES OF INCITEMENT ARE
BEHIND THE CURRENT WAVE OF
TERRORISM.
THE GOVERNMENT DEPLOYED
MORE ISRAELI BORDER
POLICE, ALONG WITH
JERUSALEM POLICE, TO BLOCK
ENTRANCES TO JEWISH'S
NEIGHBORHOOD, LIKE THIS
ONE, WHERE A NUMBER OF THE
ATTACKERS CAME FROM.
WE HEAR AGAIN AND AGAIN
THE SLOGAN: KILL THE JEWS,
KNIFE THE JEWS, DEATH TO
THE JEWS IN THE NAME OF
ALLAH, IN THE NAME OF
DEFENDING ISLAM, IN THE
NAME OF DEFENDING THE
AL-AQSA MOSQUE.
Chris: IN A TELEVISED
SPEECH ON WEDNESDAY, ABBAS
ACCUSED ISRAELI OF
INCREASING WHAT HE CALLED
ITS AGGRESSIVE OFFENSIVE
AGAINST PALESTINIANS AND
HOLY SITES.
WHO SENDS YOUNG PEOPLE
OUT WITH BUTCHER KNIVES TO
ATTACK ISRAELIS, AND IT
EMANATES FROM INCITEMENT,
AND PARTICULARLY RELIGIOUS
INCITEMENT.
INCITEMENT ROUNDS THE
FALSE ACCUSATION THAT
ISRAEL SEEKS CHANGE OF THE
STATUS QUO ON THE TEMPLE
MOUNT.
Chris: ABBAS DIDN'T
CONDEMN THE CURRENT WAVE
OF TERROR.
HE CHARGED ISRAEL WITH
WHAT HE CALLED FIELD
EXECUTIONS, AND SAID TWO
TEENS WHO CARRIED OUT A
STABBING ATTACK OF AN
ISRAELI TEENAGER THIS WEEK
WERE MARTYRS.
THEIR PARENTS SAID THEY
WENT TO BUY CANDY, BUT
THIS SECURITY CAMERA
FOOTAGE CLEARLY SHOWS THE
BOYS BRANDISHING KNIVES.
ONE OF THE TEENS WAS
KILLED AS HE TRIED TO
ATTACK A POLICEMAN.
BUT THE OTHER IS ALIVE AND
RECEIVING TREATMENT IN AN
ISRAELI HOSPITAL.
YET ABBAS SAID HE WAS
DEAD.
GENERAL DORI GOLD POINT UD
OPOINTEDOUT THAT ABBAS HAS BEEN
STOKING THE FIRE.
NO LESS THAN MAHMOUD
ABBAS MADE THE FAMOUS
COMMENT ON
SEPTEMBER 16th OF THIS
YEAR, "WE WELCOME EVERY
DROP OF BLOOD OF ISRAELI
BLOOD I."
Chris: THIS HAMAS
VIDEO SHOWS HOW TO STAB A
JEW.
ON WEDNESDAY, A
PALESTINIAN TRIED TO STAB
A POLICE OFFICER AT THE
DAMASCUS GATE OF THE OLD
CITY.
A TELEVISION CREW CAUGHT
HIS ATTEMPTED ESCAPE ON
FILM, AS HE WAS SHOT AND
KILLED BY SECURITY FORCES.
A SHORT TIME LATER,
ANOTHER TERRORIST STABBED
A WOMAN IN HER 70s AT
THE JERUSALEM CENTRAL BUS
STATION.
SHE MANAGED TO BOARD THE
BUS.
THE TERRORIST WAS SHOT AND
KILLED.
ISRAELIS ARE BRACING
THEMSELVES FOR FRIDAY,
WHEN PALESTINIANS HAVE
CALLED FOR ANOTHER DAY OF
RAGE.
AND FOR NOW, THE TERROR
SHOWS NO SIGNS OF ABATING.
CHRIS MITCHELL, CBN NEWS,
JERUSALEM.
Pat: THANKS, CHRIS.
BOY, THAT'S A TOUGH THING
FOR THE ISRAELIS.
HOW DO YOU HANDLE
SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
WHAT IF WE HAD FIVE
MILLION PEOPLE, LET'S SAY,
IN AMERICA, AND ALL OF
THESE CITIES STARTED
STABBING INNOCENT
CIVILIANS?
IT WOULD BE CHAOS.
THEY'VE GOT CHAOS GOING ON
OVER THERE.
BUT THE ISRAELIS KNOW HOW
TO TAKE CARE OF IT.
> HERE AT HOME, WE'RE
SEEING IT NOW, POLITICAL
CORRECTNESS RUN AMUCK.
A FORMER FIRE CHIEF IN
ATLANTA SAYS THAT
EXPRESSING HIS FAITH IN A
BIBLE STUDY BOOK LED TO
THE END OF HIS CAREER.
AND HE SAYS THAT'S UNTHINK
UNTHINKABLE IN THE UNITED
STATES OF AMERICA.
JOHN JESSUP HAS THAT STORY
FROM OUR CBN NEWS BUREAU
IN WASHINGTON.
John: THANKS, PAT.
THAT FIRE CHIEF, CALVIN
COCHRAN JUST HAD THE FIRST
HEARING IN HIS LAWSUIT
AGAINST THE CITY OF
ATLANTA AFTER BEING FIRED
OVER STATEMENTS HE WROTE
ABOUT HOMOSEXUALITY IN A
CHRISTIAN MEN'S
DEVOTIONAL.
A FEDERAL JUDGE HASN'T
MADE A DECISION IF
COCHRAN'S COMPLAINT WILL
MOVE FORWARD.
ABIGAIL ROBERTSON BRINGS
US THE LATEST FROM
ATLANTA.
Reporter: ONCE RANKED
ONE OF THE HIGHEST FIRE
OFFICIALS IN THE COUNTRY,
CALVIN COCHRAN HAS NOW
SEEN HIS CAREER RIPPED
AWAY FROM HIM FOR
EXPRESSING HIS RELIGIOUS
VIEWS IN A BIBLE STUDY
BOOK.
THE PATRIOTISM THAT
CAUSED ME TO BE A
FIREFIGHTER IN THE FIRST
PLACE --
Reporter: CHIEF
COCHRAN DEDICATED 34 YEARS
OF HIS LIFE.
BUT LAST NOVEMBER, HE WAS
ABRUPTLY TERMINATED FROM
HIS JOB AFTER A COMPLAINT
TO A GAY CITY COUNCILLOR.
THE COMPLAINT INVOLVED A
PASSAGE IN THE BOOK ABOUT
BIBLICAL VIEWS OF SEX,
USING TERMS LIKE
PERVERSION, INAPPROPRIATE,
AND UNCLEAN.
THE COMPLAINANT CALLED
THAT PASSAGE OFFENSIVE.
BUT THE FAITH THAT LED
TO ALL OF THE CAREER
SUCCESSES I HAD, AND
EXPRESSING IT IN A BOOK,
IS UNTHINKABLE IN THE
UNITED STATES OF AMERICA,
TO LEAD TO THE END OF MY
CAREER.
Reporter: HE ONLY
DISTRIBUTED THE BOOK TO
CO-WORKERS WHO ALREADY
ESTABLISHED A RELATIONSHIP
WITH ITS BELIEVERS.
HE EVEN GAVE A COPY TO
MAYOR REED, WHO PROMISED
TO READ IT.
COCHRAN WAS SHOCKED TO
THINK HIS BOOK WOULD BE
OFFENSIVE TO ANYONE.
IT WAS SUCH A SHOCK
THAT IT WOULD OCCUR, AND
IT WAS SO ABRUPT.
IT WAS A LOT OF HEARTBREAK
AND TEARS.
Reporter: THE CITY
LAUNCHED AN INVESTIGATION
TO FIND OUT IF CO-WORKERS
FELT THAT CHIEF COCHRAN
HAD CREATED A
DISCRIMINATORY
ENVIRONMENT.
THE INVESTIGATION FOUND HE
HADN'T, BUT MAYOR REED
FIRED CHIEF COCHRAN,
CLAIMING HE WOULD NOT
TOLERATE DISCRIMINATION OF
ANY KIND.
IN FEBRUARY OF HIS YEAR,
CHIEF COCHRAN FILED A
LAWSUIT AGAINST THE CITY
OF ATLANTA.
HE IS FIGHTING TO PROVE
THAT AMERICANS SHOULD NOT
HAVE TO LIVE IN FEAR OF
BEING TERMINATED FROM
THEIR JOBS BECAUSE OF
THEIR RELIGIOUS BELIEFS.
DAVID COURTMAN, ONE OF THE
LAWYERS DEFENDING CHIEF
COCHRAN, SAYS THIS IS NOT
JUST A FIGHT ABOUT
VINDICATING THE CHIEF,
BUT, RATHER, A FIGHT TO
PROTECT EVERY AMERICAN'S
RIGHT TO FREEDOM OF
SPEECH.
WE THE FEDERAL
GOVERNMENT TELLING SOMEONE
IF YOU DON'T AGREE WITH
THEIR VIEWS, WITH THEIR
ORTHODOXY, YOU ARE NOT
FILT TO HOLD THE POSITION.
YOU'RE NOT FIT TO MAKE A
LIVING.
THAT SHOULD WORRY
EVERYONE.
Reporter: CHIEF
COCHRAN SAYS HIS FORMER
CO-WORKERS ARE AFRAID TO
EXPRESS THEIR SUPPORT
BECAUSE OF FEAR OF
POTENTIAL CONSEQUENSES.
THEY CAN'T SAY I
BELIEVE LIKE CHIEF COCHRAN
BELIEVES, FOR FEAR OF
BEING TERMINATED.
Reporter: SINCE HIS
TERMINATION, FAITH
COMMUNITIES IN THE ATLANTA
AREA AND AROUND THE
COUNTRY HAVE GIVEN THE
COCHRAN FAMILY A
TREMENDOUS OUTPOURING OF
LOVE AND SUPPORT.
HE ASKED FOR CONTINUED
PRAYER FOR THE MAYOR AND
THE CITY, AS WELL AS FOR
STRENGTH FOR HIS WIFE AND
CHILDREN.
I HAVE NEVER FELT THAT
I WAS IN THIS ALL BY
MYSELF, NOT FOR A MOMENT.
Reporter: CHIEF
COCHRAN STAYS POSITIVE BY
BELIEVING THAT ALL
SUFFERING IS FOR THE GLORY
OF GOD, AND THAT HE WOULD
NOT BE GOING THROUGH THIS
HAD GOD NOT PREPARED HIM
FOR IT.
REPORTING FROM ATLANTA,
ABIGAIL ROBERTSON, CBN
NEWS.
Efrem: THANKS, ABBEY.
PAT, ACCORDING THE A CITY
INVESTIGATION, THEY FOUND
NO EVIDENCE OF
DISCRIMINATION.
BUT ACCORDING TO COCHRAN'S
TARIANATTORNEYS, THEY SAY HE WAS
FIRED ANYWAY BECAUSE HE
MIGHT DISCRIMINATE IN THE
FUTURE.
Pat: THIS MAN --
HAVING SEEN HIS FACE, HE
IS A BLACK MAN.
WHERE ARE THE BLACK
PEOPLE?
WHY DON'T THEY STAND UP
AND TALK ABOUT CHIEF
COCHRAN.
IT IS TIME THEY STAND FOR
ONE OF THEIR OWN.
BUT AT THE SAME TIME, ALL
OF US NEED TO STAND FOR A
MAN LIKE THIS.
HE IS JUST EXPRESSING HIS
FAITH.
IN AMERICA, WE SHOULD HAVE
A RIGHT TO HOLD OUR OWN
PRIVATE RELIGIOUS BELIEFS.
AND THE FACT THAT HE
BELIEVES IN A CERTAIN
THING HAVING TO DO WITH
SEXUAL PUR PURITY, IT IS SO
CLEAR IN THE BIBLE, OVER
AND OVER AND OVER AGAIN,
IN THE OLD AND NEW
TESTAMENT, AND ALL HE IS
DOING IS REAFFIRMING
BIBLICAL VALUES THAT ARE
HELD BY HUNDREDS OF
MILLIONS OF PEOPLE IN THE
WORLD, AND BY A MAJORITY
OF PEOPLE HERE IN THE
UNITED STATES.
ARE WE GOING TO ALLOW A
FEW PEOPLE -- YOU KNOW,
SURVEYS SHOW -- SURVEYS
SHOW 1% OF THE AMERICAN
PEOPLE ARE LESBIAN.
1%.
AND PERHAPS 4%, MAYBE 5%,
ARE HOMOSEXUAL.
THAT'S IT.
ARE WE GOING TO ALLOW THIS
TINY MINORITY TO TAKE AWAY
THE JOBS OF PEOPLE WHO
BELIEVE CONTRARY TO THEIR
BELIEFS?
WHAT KIND OF A NATION DO
WE HAVE.
AND THE MAYOR THINKS HE IS
BEING SO NOBLE.
I'M NOT GOING TO ALLOW ANY
DISCRIMINATION IN MY
ADMINISTRATION.
BOLOGNA.
WHAT HE IS SAYING IS, I'M
POLITICALLY CORRECT AND
I'M GOING TO FIRE ANYBODY
WHO DOESN'T AGREE WITH
POLITICAL CORRECTNESS.
DON'T LET THIS COUNTRY
TURN INTO RUSSIA.
WE JUST DON'T NEED IT.
JOHN?
John: PAT, SPEAKING
OF RUSSIA, RUSSIA'S
CURRENT OPERATIONS IN
SYRIA SHOW VLADIMIR PUTIN
HAS BEEN QUICKLY
MODERNIZING HIS COUNTRY'S
MILITARY OVER THE LAST
SEVERAL YEARS.
AS EFREM GRAHAM REPORTS,
ONLY NOW IS THE REST OF
THE WORLD GETTING TO SEE
IT.
Efrem: AFTER TWO
WEEKS OF THE AIR AND
MISSILE STRIKES IN SYRIA,
A RUSSIAN DEFENSE MINISTRY
OFFICIAL SAYS ITS COMBAT
JETS DESTROYED MILITANT
FASFACILITY NEAR ALEPPO.
AND THE "NEW YORK TIMES"
REPORTS, ACTIONS LIKE THAT
SHOW VLADIMIR PUTIN HAS
UPGRADED AND MODERNIZED
RUSSIA'S MILITARY MUCH
MORE THAN WESTERN
INTELLIGENCE AND MILITARY
OFFICIALS HAD REALIZED.
THE PAPER SAYS PUTIN IS
SHOWCASING HIS ABILITY TO
CONDUCT OPERATIONS BEYOND
HIS COUNTRY'S BORDERS,
WITH A PUBLIC
DEMONSTRATION OF NEW
WEAPONS, TACTICS, AND
STRATEGY.
AND RUSSIA ISN'T ONLY
FLEXING ITS MUSCLE WITH
ADVANCED HARDWARE.
THEY HAVE DEPLOYED FIELD
KITCHENS, AND EVEN SINGERS
AND DANCERS TO ENTERTAIN
THE TROOPS.
RUSSIA'S GROWING PUSH TO
PROP UP SYRIA'S GOVERNMENT
IS RAISING NEW SCRUTINY
AND QUESTIONS ABOUT THE
C.I.A.'S SECRET SUPPORT OF
SYRIAN REBELS FIGHTING
PRESIDENT BASHAR
al-ASSAD.
AND JUST HOW FAR IT WILL
GO TO TAKE ON PUTIN'S
ALLIES, AND IT SEEMS THE
U.S. WON'T GO VERY FAR.
WHITE HOUSE SPOKESMAN
JOSH EARNEST TOLD
REPORTERS ON TUCSON, TUESDAY,
COUNTERING RUSSIA'S
INVOLVEMENT IN SYRIA
DOESN'T RANK NEARLY AS
HIGH ON THE SCALE COMPARED
TO ISIS.
THE LATEST FOX NEWS POLL
SHOWS 53% THINK RUSSIAN
PRESIDENT VLADIMIR PUTIN
HAS THE UPPER HAND IN
SYRIA.
AND ONLY 22% DISAGREE.
AND WHEN IT COMES TO
PRESIDENT OBAMA, 52% SAY
HE IS WEAK AND INDECISIVE
AS A LEADER.
AND ONLY ABOUT A THIRD
CALL HIM STRONG AND
DECISIVE.
EFREM GRAHAM, CBN NEWS.
John: THANKS, EFREM.
PAT, THE WAY THE "NEW YORK
TIMES" PUT IT, RUSSIA IS
USING SYRIA AS APPROVING
GROUND.
Pat: THERE IS NO
QUESTION THAT THAT IS WHAT
IS HAPPENING.
BUT BEFORE IT'S FINISHED,
BASHAR al-ASSAD HAS NO
POWER BASE AT ALL.
SO WHAT IS GOING TO HAPPEN
IS VLADIMIR PUTIN WILL
THEREFORE BE THE DICTATOR
OF SYRIA.
HE WILL TELL THE
GOVERNMENT WHAT TO DO AND
HOW DO DO IT AND WHEN TO
DO IT.
THIS GIVES HIM A LAUNCHING
PAD, AS I'VE SHOWN YOU A
FEW DAYS AGO, INTO THE
OIL-RICH MIDDLE EAST.
HE WILL CONTROL THE OIL
FIELDS, AND BEFORE LONG HE
WILL DOMINATE SOMETHING
THAT IS SO PRECIOUS FOR
EUROPEAN ECONOMIES.
HE IS A LONG-RANGE CHESS
PLAYER, AND HE IS BEATING
OUR NOVICE PRESIDENT EVERY
TIME HE TURNS AROUND.
AND, YOU KNOW, WHAT DOES
OUR PRESIDENT SAY?
WELL, THE MAJOR ISSUE
CONFRONTING HIM THAT S HE IS
GOING TO BE INVOLVED IN A
CLIMATE CHANGE.
WHAT GOOD IS CLIMATE
CHANGE IF ALL OF THE
CLIMATE IS TAKEN AWAY FROM
US?
AND THAT'S WHAT IS GOING
TO HAPPEN, ALL OF THE
TERRITORY.
PUTIN IS TAKING STEP BY
STEP BY STEP.
ACCORDING TO THE "NEW YORK
TIMES," HE IS ACTUALLY
TESTING OUT HIS WEAPONS
SYSTEM AND HIS COMMAND AND
CONTROL STRUCTURE OF HIS
MILITARY.
AND SYRIA IS THE PROVING
GROUND.
BUT HE WILL -- HE IS GOING
TO BEAT THE FORCES OPPOSED
TO ASSAD, AND THEN HE IS
GOING TO CONTROL ASSAD,
AND THEN HE IS GOING TO
TELL ASSAD, YOU DO WHAT I
SAY OR ELSE YOU'RE OUT OF
OFFICE.
AND AWAY HE GOES.
AND HE'LL HAVE A LAUNCHING
PAD, AND HE'LL BRING MORE
AND MORE TROOPS IN.
AND HE HAS A NAVAL BASE
NOW IN THE MEDITERRANEAN.
IT IS UNBELIEVABLE WHAT HE
HAS GOT.
AT NO EXPENSE.
HE JUST WALKED IN AND TOOK
IT BECAUSE THE UNITED
STATES SAID, WELL, WE'RE
OUT OF THIS.
IN OUR LIFETIME WE'RE
SEEING THE DISMANTELMENT
OF AMERICAN POWER, AND IT
IS HAPPENING SO FAST.
WE'RE GIVING AWAY WHAT HAS
TAKEN DECADES TO GAIN.
TERRY?
Terry: COMING UP,
YOUNG CHRISTIANS FIGHTING
INTENSE OPPOSITIONS WITH
AN IN YOUR FACE BOLDNESS.
FIND OUT WHY THEY HAVE NO
FEAR, AFTER THIS.
Pat: THIS IS AMERICA,
THE LAND OF THE FREE AND
THE HOME OF THE BRAVE.
THIS IS A PLACE WHERE WE
BELIEVE IN RELIGIOUS
FREEDOM.
WE BELIEVE IN THE FREEDOM
OF SPEECH.
WE BELIEVE IN A LOT OF
THINGS.
BUT RIGHT HERE IN THIS
GREAT COUNTRY, FOLLOWERS
OF JESUS CHRIST ARE FACING
MORE OPPOSITION.
THAN AT ANY OTHER TIME IN
OUR NATION'S HISTORY.
JUST BECAUSE THEY HAVE A
STRONG FAITH IN JESUS
CHRIST.
NOW A NEW GENERATION IS
STANDING FIRM FOR THEIR
BELIEFS WITH NO FEAR.
TAKE A LOOK.
Reporter: THEY ARE
YOUNG, ORDINARY
CHRISTIANS, COURAGEOUSLY
STANDING UP FOR GOD'S
TRUTH, DESPITE INCREDIBLE
OPPOSITION.
ACTIVISTS LIKE LILA ROSE,
WHO, AS A TEENAGER,
STARTED BECOMING A MAJOR
FORCE IN THE PRO-LIFE
MOVEMENT, SHOOTING
UNDERCOVER VIDEOS AT
ABORTION CLINICS, EXPOSING
ILLEGAL PRACTICES, AND
TRIGGERING INVESTIGATIONS.
THE KOUNTZE TEXAS
CHEERLEADERS, FIGHTING AN
ATHEIST GROUP FOR THE
RIGHT TO KEEP BIBLE VERSES
ON BANNERS AT FOOTBALL
GAMES.
AND THE BENHAM BROTHERS
WHO LOST THEIR REALITY
SHOW BECAUSE OF THEIR
CHRISTIAN VIEWS ON HOT
BUTTON ISSUES LIKE
SAME-SEX MARRIAGE AND
ABORTION.
THEY AND OTHERS MAKE UP A
NEW WAVE OF YOUNG
CHRISTIANS KNOWN FOR THEIR
BOLDNESS AND STRENGTH.
FAMILY RESEARCH COUNCIL
PRESIDENT TONY PERKINS
WRITES ABOUT THEM IN HIS
NEW BOOK "NO FEAR, REAL
STORIES OF A COURAGEOUS
NEW GENERATION STANDING
FOR TRUTH."
Pat: IT'S A POWERFUL
BOOK, AND THE AUTHOR, TONY
PERKINS, IS JOINING US.
TONY, THANKS FOR BEING
WITH US ON "THE 700 CLUB."
THANK YOU, PAT.
GREAT TO BE WITH YOU.
Pat: YOU'VE GOT SOME
TREMENDOUS STORIES.
TELL US SOME OF THE
EXAMPLES THAT STAND OUT TO
YOU OF THOSE WHO HAVE
TAKEN A STAND FOR CHRIST.
WELL, YOU'VE
HIGHLIGHTED SOME OF THEM.
I WOULD MENTION LILA ROSE
BECAUSE WITH LILA, WHAT
WE'RE SEEING UNFOLD WITH
THIS CENTER FOR MEDICAL
PROGRESS ABOUT TO TAKE
DOWN PLANNED PARENTHOOD
AND THE FEDERAL FUNDING
THAT THEY GET, REALLY
STARTED WITH LILA WHEN SHE
BEGAN THESE UNDERCOVER
OPERATIONS A NUMBER OF
YEARS AGO AS A FRESHMAN AT
UCLA IN LOS ANGELES.
WHAT IS ENCOURAGING ABOUT
THIS, AS I SAW THESE
STORIES, PAT, IS YOU HAVE
THESE YOUNG PEOPLE WHO ARE
UNYIELDING IN THEIR FAITH
FOR JESUS CHRIST.
WE TELL THEIR STORIES --
NOT JUST THE APEX OF THE
EVENT, BUT WE KIND OF GO
BACK IN THEIR LIVES, AS
THEY CAME TO KNOW THE
LORD, AS THEIR PARENTS
MENTORED THEM, WHETHER IT
MIGHT HAVE BEEN A PASTOR
THAT HAD INFLUENCE IN
THEIR LIFE.
AND THEY COME TO THIS
POINT WHERE THEY HAVE TO
WRESTLE WITHSTANDIN WITH STANDING FOR
THEIR FAITH.
THEY HAD TO MAKE A CHOICE,
JUST LIKE ALL OF US,
WHETHER OUR LIVES ARE
DIRECTED BY OUR FAITH IN
CHRIST OR OUR FEAR OF MAN.
AND THEY CHOSE TO HAVE
HAVE FAITH IN CHRIST
RATHER THAN FEAR IN MAN.
IT IS REMARKABLE, WHEN YOU
LOOK AT WHAT IS HAPPENING
IN THIS NEW GENERATION.
Pat: CAN YOU GIVE US
SOME OF THE EXAMPLES OF
SOME OF THE PENALTY THEY
INCURRED BECAUSE OF THEIR
FAITH?
WE HAVE DIFFERENT
SETTINGS.
YOU HAVE SOME IN SCHOOL,
SOME IN BUSINESS, AND
SOME -- LIKE THE
CHEERLEADERS WHO FACED
LEGAL CHALLENGES.
YOU HAVE VALEDICTORIANS,
LIKE ROY COSTNER, FROM
SOUTH CAROLINA, WHO WAS
TOLD, LOOK, YOU CAN'T
MENTION GOD OR YOU CAN'T
PRAY, EVEN THOUGH YOUR THE
VALEDICTORIAN.
AND HE WAS FEARFUL HE
MIGHT NOT GRADUATE.
THAT IT MIGHT AFFECT HIS
GOING TO COLLEGE AND BEING
ACCEPTED AT CLEMSON.
BUT HE WRESTLED THROUGH
THIS, TALKING TO HIS DAD,
AND TALKING TO HIS PASTOR,
AND IN THE END, RIGHT
THERE ON THE GRADUATION
STAGE, HE TORE UP HIS
PRE-APPROVED STAGE, AND
GAVE THE MESSAGE THAT WAS
ON HIS HEART.
AND HE LED THE ENTIRE
AUDITORIUM IN THE LORD'S
PRAYER.
AND, OF COURSE, PEOPLE
RESPONDED.
WHAT IS FASCINATING ABOUT
THIS, PAT, IS THESE YOUNG
PEOPLE ARE DOING WHAT
THEIR ELDERS, THOSE IN
AUTHORITY WILL NOT, AND
THAT IS STANDING UP TO
THESE MILITANT ATHEIST
GROUPS AND SAY, I HAVE A
RIGHT TO FOLLOW JESUS AND
TELL OTHERS ABOUT HIM.
Pat: HAVE YOU FOUND A
LOT OF COWARDNESS ON THIS?
[LAUGHTER]
Pat: GO AHEAD AND
TELL US ABOUT IT.
WE HAVE.
WE HAVE CHRISTIANS WHO ARE
FEARFUL OF MAN.
WHAT STARTED THIS WHOLE
THING WAS A BIBLE STUDY I
DID A NUMBER OF YEARS AGO,
AND THE WORDS NO FEAR, OR
FEAR NOT.
AND IN ALMOST EVERY CASE,
PAT, WHEN YOU LOOK AT
THAT, GOD IS TELLING
ORDINARY PEOPLE HAVE NO
FEAR.
ON THE BACK SIDE OF THAT,
HE DOES EXTRAORDINARY
THINGS FOR THOSE WHO
CHOOSE TO TRUST HIM.
HERE IS WHAT WE HAVE: WE
HAVE TO CHOOSE BETWEEN
FAITH AND FEAR.
FAITH SAYS ADVANCE.
FEAR SAYS RETREAT.
YOU CAN'T DO BOTH.
AND, AGAIN, WHAT IS
ENCOURAGING TO ME IS I SEE
IN THESE YOUNG PEOPLE,
MOSTLY MILLENNIALS,
THEY'RE CHOOSING TO
EXPRESS THEIR FAITH IN GOD
AND NOT SHRINK BACK.
WHAT HAS BEEN THE PROBLEM
IN THE CHURCH IS INSTEAD
OF TAKING THE MESSAGE THAT
SAID, TAKE UP YOUR CROSS
AND FOLLOW ME, WE'VE SAID,
TAKE UP YOUR PICNIC BASKET
AND LET'S GO FOR A WALK.
THE YOUNG PEOPLE ARE
WAITING FOR THE CHALLENGE.
Pat: HOW DO YOU GET
YOUR BOOK?
IT IS IN BOOKSTORES ALL
ACROSS AMERICA.
OR YOU CAN GO TO
TonyPerkins.com .
WE LAY A BIBLICAL
FOUNDATION FOR TAKING THE
STAND.
WE WANT PEOPLE TO STAND
FOR CHRIST.
Pat: THIS WOULD BE A
GREAT GIFT THIS TIME OF
YEAR, TO THEIR CHILDREN
WHO ARE STARTING SCHOOL.
"NO FEAR."
THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE.
THANK YOU, PAT.
Terry: UP NEXT, THE
NEW MOVIE THAT IS A TRUE
STORY OF RACIAL
RECONCILIATION.
"WOODLAWN" STAR CALEB
CASTILLE JOINS US, ALONG
WITH THE PRODUCER, KEVIN
TOWNES.
Terry: IMAGINE,
ALMOST AN ENTIRE HISTORY
FOOTBALL TEAM GIVING THEIR
LIVES TO JESUS CHRIST.
THEN IMAGINE THEIR ARCH
RIVALS DOING THE SAME.
YOU DON'T HAVE TO IMAGINE
IT.
IT IS HISTORY.
AND IT IS PART OF A NEW
MOVIE OPENING TOMORROW.
Reporter: "WOODLAWN"
IS THE STORY OF FAITH,
HOPE, AND THE
RECONCILIATION OF A TORN
CITY.
1970s, BIRMINGHAM,
ALABAMA, WAS RIFE WITH
RACIAL PROBLEMS.
WOODLAWN HIGH WAS ONE OF
THE LAST SCHOOLS TO BE
INTEGRATED.
TONY NATHAN, A TALENTED
RUNNINGBACK WHO IMPROVED
THE TEAM, AND THE COACH
KNEW HE WOULD BE A
DANGEROUS CHOICE, BUT HE
KNEW SOMETHING WAS
HAPPENING THAT WAS MUCH
BIGGER THAN HIMSELF, THE
FOOTBALL TEAM, OR THE
SCHOOL.
Terry: PLEASE WELCOME
FROM THE MOVIE "WOODLAWN,"
ACTOR CALEB CASTILLE AND
PRODUCER KEVIN TONEES.
KEVIN, WHY THIS MOVIE AT
THIS TIME?
GOD LED US TO MAKE THIS
MOVIE.
THERE IS NO OTHER ANSWER
FOR IT.
IT IS SO TIMELY FOR WHAT
IS GOING ON IN OUR COUNTRY
TODAY.
WHILE WE WERE SHOOTING,
THE VERDICT OF FERGUSON
WAS ACTUALLY HAPPENING.
WE COULDN'T HAVE PREDICTED
ALL OF THESE EVENTS.
BECAUSE OUR COUNTRY IS IN
NEED OF UNITY AND HEALING,
AND I THINK "WOODLAWN"
OFFERS A GLIMPSE OF WHAT
IT COULD BE LIKE.
Terry: CALEB, LET ME
ASK YOU HOW YOU GOT THE
LEAD ROLE IN THIS.
I KNOW THERE IS AN
INTERESTING STORY BEHIND
THAT.
A DEFINITELY
INTERESTING STORY.
I PLAYED COLLEGE FOOTBALL
AT THE UNIVERSITY OF
ALABAMA, AND I SAW ACTING
AS A MEDIUM TO MAKE A
DIFFERENCE IN THE WORLD
TODAY, IN WHICH IT IS SO
SHAPED BY OUR CULTURE.
I WENT OUT FOR ACTING, AND
ABOUT TWO YEARS INTO THAT
PROCESS, HERE COMES
"WOODLAWN."
I AUDITIONED FOR THE PART
OF TONY NATHAN, AND I DID
NOT GET THE PART AT FIRST.
THROUGH FOUR WEEKS OF
REHEARSALS AS A STUNT
DOUBLE, ACTUALLY, AND THEN
THREE DAYS BEFORE
PRODUCTION, THEY GIVE ME A
CALL, AND THEY SAY, HEY,
YOU KNOW WHAT?
WE THINK YOU MIGHT BE FIT
TO PLAY TONY BECAUSE --
Terry: WERE YOU
SHOCKED AT THAT POINT?
VERY.
Terry: ISN'T THAT SO
GOD?
SO GOD.
HE HAD PREPARED ME IN WAYS
I DIDN'T EVEN NOTICE.
Terry: AND LOTS OF
TIMES HE WANTS US TO BE
SURE THAT THE OPEN DOOR
CAME FROM HIM.
VERY MUCH SO.
[LAUGHTER]
Terry: TALK A LITTLE
ABOUT THE REAL TONY NATHAN
AND WHAT YOU'VE LEARNED.
I'M SURE YOU STUDIED THE
STORY AND ALL OF THE
BACKGROUND AND HISTORY.
TONY IS SUCH A
GENTLEMAN, BUT SO POWERFUL
AT THE SAME TIME.
HOW CAN YOU BE SO LOVING
WHEN YOU'RE SO HATED, AND
BE SO STRONG, AND YET SO
GENTLE.
AND BE SO TALENTED AND YET
SO HUMBLE.
IT WAS JUST FASCINATING TO
GET TO KNOW HIM BECAUSE HE
STANDS UP TO EVERY BIT OF
HIS LEGEND.
Terry: WE HAVE SO
MUCH GOING ON IN OUR
COUNTRY TODAY WITH RACIAL
TENSION, BUT IN THE DAY
THAT YOU ALL WERE TELLING
THE STORY OF, IT WAS
REALLY, REALLY INTENSE.
SO TO HAVE THAT KIND OF
POWER FROM GENTLENESS IS
QUITE A STATEMENT.
HOW CLOSE TO REALITY IS
THIS STORY?
HOW CLOSE TO WHAT ACTUALLY
HAPPENED IS IT?
MANY EVENTS IN THIS
FILM ACTUALLY HAPPENED.
WHAT IS WONDERFUL, IN THE
EARLY '70s WAS THIS
JESUS MOVEMENT.
WE HAD A TIE-DIED MOVEMENT
ON THE COVER.
AND OUR HEART IS THAT
"WOODLAWN" COULD SPARK A
REVIVAL IN OUR NATION,
BECAUSE I THINK OUR NATION
IS LOOKING FOR HOPE AND
LOOKING FOR A WAY.
Terry: IT WAS DURING
THAT TIME THAT I CAME TO
CHRIST.
IT WAS SUCH AN AWESOME
TIME TO BE A BELIEVER, TO
SEE THE POWER OF GOD.
TALK A LITTLE, IF YOU
WILL, ABOUT THE POWER OF
GOD TO CHANGE THINGS.
BECAUSE THAT'S REALLY WHAT
IS NEEDED NOW.
AND IT'S WHAT WORKED THEN.
I THINK THAT IT'S --
PEOPLE WANT TO BRING
POLITICS INTO IT AND ALL
OF THAT.
I DON'T THINK THERE IS A
FORMULA TO IT.
I THINK YOU LOVE GOD AND
YOU LOVE PEOPLE.
I THINK IT IS A SIMPLE
STATEMENT.
AND THERE IS -- I THINK IT
CAN HELP HEAL OUR COUNTRY.
Terry: PEOPLE HAVE
SAID THAT THE FOOTBALL
SCENES IN THIS MOVIE ARE
REVOLUTIONARY.
WHAT DID YOU DO
DIFFERENTLY?
THE DIRECTORS, JOHN AND
ANDREW IRWIN ARE FORMER
ESPN FOOTBALL CAMERAMEN.
THEY ARE SO GOOD AT WHAT
THEY DO.
THEY SAID, WE WANT TO MAKE
SURE THE AUDIENCE IS IN
THE GAME, AND THE FOOTBALL
IS RELEVANT FOR THE NEXT
GENERATION THAT IS
WATCHING FOOTBALL ON TV.
AS CALEB CAN ATTEST, THE
FOOTBALL WAS VERY REAL.
THESE GUYS ARE HITTING AND
DOING ALL OF THE THINGS.
VERY REAL.
Terry: WHO WAS YOUR
DOUBLE?
I HAD TWO GUYS WHO WERE
GREAT.
I WAS THANKFUL FOR THEM,
TOO.
Terry: I BET YOU WERE
BECAUSE FOOTBALL IS SUCH
AN INTENSE GAME.
WHAT DO YOU WANT PEOPLE TO
TAKE AWAY FROM THE MOVIE,
KEVIN, WHEN THEY SEE IT?
WHAT DO YOU WANT PEOPLE TO
WALK AWAY SAYING?
THE FIRST THING I WANT
TO MAKE SURE IS PEOPLE
UNDERSTAND THIS IS A
FAMILY MOVIE.
IT IS RATED P.G.
AND I THINK YOU CAN COME
AWAY UNDERSTANDING THE
LOVE AND APPRECIATION AND
AMAZEMENT FOR WHO OUR GOD
IS.
HE LOVED US SO MUCH THAT
HE GAVE HIS SON TO DIE ON
A CROSS.
THAT EXAMPLE IS THE THEME
THROUGHOUT HIS ENTIRE
FILM.
Terry: IN A DAY THAT
WE LIVE IN WHERE WE'RE
SEEING COACHES CHALLENGED
SIMPLY BECAUSE THEY PRAY,
AND THEIR PLAYERS WANT TO
PRAY FREELY AND
INDEPENDENTLY WITH THEM,
THERE IS A STRONG MESSAGE
IN WHAT YOU BRING IN THIS
MOVIE.
WE SURELY NEED IT TODAY.
WE ARE EXCITED ABOUT THE
FACT THAT IT IS COMING OUT
TOMORROW.
TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT
WHAT IS NEXT FOR YOU GUYS.
I'M SURE AS THIS ONE IS
GOING INTO THE GARAGE,
WHAT'S COMING UP NEXT?
WELL, WE'RE PRAYING
ABOUT WHAT GOD WOULD HAVE
US DO NEXT.
RIGHT NOW, THE LAST COUPLE
OF WEEKS OUR FOCUS HAS
BEEN ON "WOODLAWN" AND
REALLY PRAYING FOR A
REVIVAL AND AWAKENING IN
AMERICA.
AND I'M SURE GOD WILL PUT
SOMETHING IN OUR HEARTS TO
TACKLE AND BRING OUT.
Terry: CALEB, WHAT
ABOUT YOU?
I'M LOOKING FOR ANOTHER
JOB THAT WOULD GIVE ME THE
SAME FULFILLMENT, AND A
STORY OF PURPOSE AND LOVE
AND UNITY, AND ALL OF
THOSE THINGS RIGHT NOW
THAT WE NEED IN OUR
COUNTRY.
Terry: AN OPPORTUNITY
TO MAKE A DIFFERENCE.
THAT'S IT.
Terry: AN OPPORTUNITY
TO MAKE A DIFFERENCE.
TWO YEARS OUT THERE BEFORE
THIS DOOR OPENED, I'M SURE
THERE WERE SOME ROUGH DAYS
WHERE YOU WONDERED, GOD,
AM I DOING THE RIGHT
THING?
YEAH.
Terry: IT IS TOUGH IN
YOUR BUSINESS.
WE PRAY FOR YOU, AND WE
SUPPORT WHAT YOU'RE DOING
GOING TO SEE "WOODLAWN."
IT OPENS NATIONWIDE
TOMORROW.
IT IS JUST AN OUTSTANDING
FILM.
THANK YOU TO BOTH OF YOU
FOR YOUR ROLE IN ALL OF
THAT.
THANK YOU.
THANK YOU.
Terry: VICKI SAYS,
"HOW DOES ONE RECONCILE
ONE'S FAITH WORKING AT A
COMPANY THAT IS LESS THAN
ETHICAL IN ITS BUSINESS
PRACTICES?"
WE'LL LET PAT TACKLE THAT
HOT POTATO AND MORE, AND
Efrem: WELCOME BACK
TO "THE 700 CLUB."
PRESIDENT OBAMA PLANS TO
EXTEND THE U.S. MILITARY
ROLE IN AFGHANISTAN PAST
2016, WHITE HOUSE
OFFICIALS SAY HE NOW PLANS
TO KEEP 5500 U.S. TROOPS
IN AFGHANISTAN, EVEN AFTER
HE LEAVES OFFICE, HANDING
THE CONFLICT OVER TO HIS
SUCCESSOR.
THE PRESIDENT HAD PROMISED
TO END THE WAR ON HIS
WATCH, BUT MILITARY
ADVISORS SAY THE TROOPS
ARE NEEDED TO PUSH BACK
AGAINST A RESURGENCE OF
THE TALIBAN.
> POLICE IN NEW YORK SAY
TWO TEENAGED BROTHERS WERE
BRUTALLY BEATEN IN CHURCH,
AND ONE OF THEM DIED.
THE POLICE SAY THE
BEATINGS CAME IN EFFORT BY
THEIR BROTHERS, PARENTS,
SISTERS, AND OTHER MEMBERS
OF THE CONGREGATION, TO
FORCE THEM TO CONFESS
THEIR SINS AND SEEK
FORGIVENESS.
SIX CHURCH MEMBERS,
INCLUDING THEIR PARENTS
AND SISTER, HAVE BEEN
ARRESTED.
THEY'VE ALL ENTERED NOT
GUILTY PLEAS.
> REMEMBER, YOU CAN
ALWAYS GET THE LATEST FROM
CBN NEWS BY GOING TO OUR
WEBSITE AT cbnnews.com.
PAT AND TERRY ARE BACK
WITH MORE OF "THE 700
CLUB."
IT'S COMING UP RIGHT AFTER
THIS.
Terry: TIME TO "BRING
IT ON" WITH YOUR E-MAIL
QUESTIONS.
AND, PAT, THIS FIRST ONE
IS FROM VICKI WHO SAYS,
"HOW DOES ONE RECONCILE
WITH ONE'S FAITH WORKING
AT A COMPANY THAT IS LESS
THAN ETHICAL IN ITS
BUSINESS PRACTICES?
I WORK WITH COLLEGE
STUDENTS WITH LEARNING
DISABILITIES, AND THE
COMPANY IS WAY OVER
CHARGING THE FAMILIES."
Pat: I THINK -- YOU
SAY, HOW DO YOU RECONCILE?
I DON'T THINK YOU OUGHT TO
TRY TO RECONCILE.
I THINK YOU OUGHT TO QUIT.
IT COULD BE YOU CAN TELL
THE BOSSES THAT THEY'RE
OVERCHARGING, BUT THEY'LL
PROBABLY FIRE YOU ANYHOW.
Terry: FOR CERTAIN.
Pat: BUT,
NEVERTHELESS, YOU CAN'T
CONTINUE TO DO THAT.
YOU'RE ENABLING THEM TO DO
STUFF THAT YOU THINK IS
IMMORAL AND UNETHICAL,
ILLEGAL, ETC.
Terry: SHOULD SHE SAY
SOMETHING TO THE FAMILIES,
DO YOU THINK?
Pat: NO.
IT GETS TO BE SLANDER.
YOU WILL WIND UP GETTING
SUED BY THE COMPANY.
YOU'VE GOT TO TO BE CAREFUL
BECAUSE YOU GET SUED.
THEY'LL COME AFTER YOU --
THAT'S WHY IS SO BAD.
THE BIG THING IS, GET
ANOTHER JOB.
Terry: THIS IS ROBIN
WHO SAYS, "PAT, I HEARD
YOU ANSWER A QUESTION ON
TUESDAY REGARDING FAITH
AND HEALING.
MY QUANDARY WITH YOUR VIEW
IS WHY HAVE YOU UNDERGONE
SURGERIES WHEN YOU'RE
FAITH SHOULD BE ENOUGH.
THIS IS A SINCERE
QUESTION."
Pat: I DON'T THINK
RELIGION, FAITH, AND
MEDICINE ARE NECESSARILY
ENEMIES.
I THINK GODLY PEOPLE ARE
USED BY GOD TO COME FORTH
WITH HEALING TECHNIQUES
THAT ALLEVIATE SICKNESS
AND SUFFERING AND SO
FORTH.
I'VE BEEN SIMPLY AMAZED AT
THE WONDERS THAT THE
MEDICAL PROFESSION CAN
PERFORM.
YOU SAY, HOW COME YOU
DIDN'T PRAY THAT SOMETHING
GET TAKEN AWAY.
THE LORD MAY SAY, YOU
PRAYED AND GO TO SEE THAT
DOCTOR, AND HE'LL TAKE THE
MOLE OFF YOUR CHIN OR
SOMETHING.
Terry: YEAH.
EXACTLY.
Pat: I DON'T KNOW
WHAT ELSE TO SAY.
IF YOU HAVE ENOUGH
FAITH -- MAYBE I DON'T
HAVE ENOUGH.
BUT I HAVE FAITH IN OTHER
PEOPLE.
BUT FOR MYSELF, I THINK I
DID THE RIGHT THING.
Terry: THIS IS JACOB
WHO SAYS, "I LIKE TO RAP
AS A HOBBY, AND HOPE TO
ENCOURAGE PEOPLE ABOUT
NEVER GIVING UP IN LIFE.
I MAKE SURE THAT MY RAP IS
CLEAN.
I WANT TO BE KNOWN FOR
BEING A SECULAR RAPPER, SO
AM I SINNING?
ALSO, CAN YOU WISH ME GOOD
LUCK ON MAKING AN IMPACT
IN THIS WORLD?"
Pat: I'LL TELL YOU,
RAP TO ME IS A BUNCH OF
GIBBERISH.
BUT IT IS SOME PRETTY
CLEVER STUFF.
THE WAY THEY DO IT IS SO
CLEVER.
IT IS SO HARD FOR SOME TO
UNDERSTAND WHAT THEY'RE
SAYING.
THERE IS NOTHING WRONG
WITH RAP.
IT IS WHEN YOU PUT DIRTY
LYRICS IN IT THAT IS IT IS
WRONG.
Terry: "HI, PAT, I
HEARD YOU STATE, QUOTE,"IF
IT IS GOD'S WILL FOR US TO
BE HEALED," BECAUSE IT
SHOWS A LACK OF FAITH.
HOW WOULD WE KNOW GOD'S
WILL PERTAINING HOW HE
WOULD HEAL US, HE COULD
USE DOCTORS TO DO IT, DO
IT SUPER NATURALLY, ETC.."
Pat: THAT'S EXACTLY
WHAT HE WILL SHOW YOU.
BUT WHY DON'T YOU ASK HIM.
THE TREATMENT FOR CANCER
IS CHEMOTHERAPY, AND
APPARENTLY IT KILLS
HEALTHY CELLS AS WELL AS
DISEASED CELLS, AND I
FOUND TIME AND TIME AGAIN,
WHEN PEOPLE GET INVOLVED
IN STRONG CHEMOTHERAPY, IT
IS ALMOST IMPOSSIBLE TO
GET ENOUGH FAITH TO GET
THEM HEALED.
BECAUSE THEY'RE SO FAR
DOWN BECAUSE OF THIS
TREATMENT THAT THEY'VE
HAD.
AND IT'S KIND OF LIKE LUCK
IF THEY COME OUT OF IT.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO SAY
EXCEPT, THE QUESTION AGAIN
WAS --
Terry: THEY WANT TO
KNOW, HOW WOULD YOU KNOW
WHAT GOD WOULD HAVE THEM
WHETHER YOU GO TO A
DOCTOR --
Pat: I THINK YOU NEED
TO PRACTICE THE PRESENCE
OF GOD.
YOU NEED TO KNOW WHAT HE
IS SAYING TO YOU.
THERE ARE TIMES WHEN YOU
CAN JUST FEEL FAITH AND
YOU PRAY AND THE LORD
HEALS YOU.
I HAVE SEEN THAT IN MY
LIFE.
I HAD SOMETHING, AND I WAS
PRAYING, AND I WAS THERE
WITH MY WIFE.
AND I PRAYED, AND ALL OF A
SUDDEN I FELT THIS HEAT IN
THIS JOINT AND THE THING
WAS HEALED.
YOU DON'T KNOW.
HOW DO YOU KNOW?
YOU WALK WITH GOD.
THAT'S WHAT IT IS.
IT'S A WALK WITH HIM.
Terry: THIS IS JOHN
Terry: THIS IS JOHN
WHO SAYS, "IT HAS BEEN 10
YEARS SINCE MY WIFE AND I
SHARED THE SAME BEDROOM.
A YEAR AND A HALF WE TRIED
TO EVEN HOLD EACH OTHER.
THE ONLY REASONS WE'RE
TOGETHER ARE MONEY AND A
SPECIAL-NEEDS CHILD WE
PROMISED TO RAISE.
CAN WE DIVORCE BECAUSE SHE
REFUSES TO EVEN KISS ME,
OR IS THIS A SIN?"
Pat: THE WIFE'S BODY
BELONGS TO THE HUSBAND,
AND THE HUSBAND'S BODY
BELONGS TO THE WIFE.
THAT'S WHAT THE BIBLE
SAYS.
THAT WOMAN IS SINNING
AGAINST GOD.
AND IF THAT'S THE WAY SHE
WANTS TO LIVE, THAT'S
FINE.
BUT IN MY OPINION, IT IS
CONSTRUCTIVE DESERTION.
YOU CAN EITHER HAVE AN
ANNULMENT TO THE MARRIAGE,
PERHAPS, OR YOU CAN
CONSIDER IT DESERTION.
BUT I THINK TO BREAK THAT
MARRIAGE UP -- IT DOESN'T
EXIST.
SO I DON'T KNOW WHAT ELSE
TO SAY EXCEPT WHY SHOULD
YOU GO THROUGH TORMENT
YEAR AFTER YEAR AFTER
YEAR.
IT'S NOT RIGHT.
THE PERSON WHO IS
WITHHOLDING INTIMACY FROM
A SPOUSE IS SINNING
AGAINST GOD.
THAT'S WHAT THE BIBLE
SAYS.
I'M JUST QUOTING THE
BIBLE.
Terry: THIS IS MILLIE
WHO SAYS, "I HAVE SEARCHED
FOR AN ANSWER REGARDING
GAMBLING.
MY PASTOR HAS STATED WHY
NOT USE THE MONEY WON IN
GAMBLING, LOTTERIES, HORSE
RACING, THAT SATAN HAS
INTENDED FOR BAD FOR THE
GLORY OF GOD.
I DO NOT FEEL THIS IS
SOUND CHRISTIAN PRACTICE.
HOW WOULD YOWHAT DO YOU THINK?
Pat: THAT PAST IS
WRONG.
NEVERTHELESS, WHAT YOU'RE
DOING IS SHOVING YOUR
SHIPS ACROSS THE TABLE.
YOU'RE TELLING GOD, I
BELONG TO YOU, BUT, GOD,
I'M TESTING YOU NOW.
IF THAT LITTLE BALL
DOESN'T COME INTO RED 16,
I'VE LOST MY MONEY AND IT
IS YOUR FAULT.
AND THE BIBLE SAYS, THOU
SHALT NOT TEMPT THE LORD
THY GOD.
SO WHETHER IT IS A HORSE
RACE OR POKER OR ROULETTE
OR WHATEVER -- AND THERE
ARE MANY OTHER WAYS OF
GAMBLING -- I JUST THINK
IT IS WRONG BECAUSE YOUR
TEMPTING GOD.
THAT'S WHAT IT AMOUNTS TO.
NOW, GAMBLING BECOMES AN
ADDICTION, JUST LIKE
DRUGS.
IT'S THAT HIGH THAT PEOPLE
GET -- THEY'RE RIGHT UP
AGAINST THE EDGE OF
SOMETHING, AND IT'S THAT
FEELING THAT YOU GET WHEN
YOU'RE GOING OVER A ROLLER
COASTER.
AND PEOPLE GET THAT HIGH.
AND IT'S KIND OF LIKE A
NARCOTIC.
BUT A GAMBLING ADDICTION
IS EVER BIT AS BAD AS THE
ADDICTION TO DRUGS.
AND SO FOR A PASTOR TO
RECOMMEND THAT PEOPLE DO
THAT AND SORT OF GLOSS
OVER IT AND SAY IT IS A
HOLY THING, THAT'S
NONSENSE.
Terry: AGREED.
Pat: I DO NOT WISH TO
ENCOURAGE ANYBODY TO GET
ADDICTED TO GAMBLING.
Terry: I DO KNOW A
NUMBER OF PEOPLE WHO ARE
ADDICTED TO GAMBLING, AND
IT IS VERY DIFFICULT TO
GET OUT OF.
Pat: I NEVER HAVE
BEEN ADDICTED SINCE.
BEFORE I FOUND THE LORD, I
LOST ALL OF MY MONEY IN A
POKER GAME.
THEY WERE CHEATING ME, I
THINK.
THEY ALWAYS CHEAT IN THOSE
CASINOS.
I WOUND UP SPENDING THE
NIGHT WITH IN A BEDROOM ON
A MOUNTAIN.
AND THIS COWBOY THAT
HAPPENED TO BE WITH ME
HOCKED HIS SPURS, GOT
$3.50 SO WE COULD EAT
BREAKFAST.
IT AIN'T FUN.
Terry: CASINOS FALL
UNDER THE STATEMENT THAT
IT'S FOR YOUR INFORMATION
AND THEIR BENEFIT.
Pat: I SHOULDN'T SAY
THE BIG CASINOS CHEAT --
THEY DON'T.
THEY'RE HIGHLY REGULATED.
BUT THE ONES I WAS
FAMILIAR WITH YEARS AND
YEARS AGO, THOSE GAMES ARE
NOT HONEST, AND YOU LOSE
YOUR MONEY.
Terry: I AGREE.
Pat: I COULD GO ON
AND ON.
Terry: WE GET IT.
Pat: GAMBLERS
ANONYMOUS.
> ALL RIGHT, RIGHT NOW I
WANT YOU TO MEET A COUPLE
OF "700 CLUB" PARTNERS AND
HEAR WHY THEY LIKE WHAT
CBN IS DOING AROUND THE
WORLD.
TAKE A LOOK.
Reporter: DONNY SPECK
RUNS A FLOURISHING
BUSINESS, AND HE AND HIS
WIFE TITHE AND GIVE TO
CBN.
WHEN I HEAR ON THE
SHOW, PAT TALKING ABOUT
WHEN YOU GIVE, LIVES ARE
CHANGED.
SALVATION IS SPOKEN, AND
THE GOSPEL IS SPREAD
AROUND THE WORLD THROUGH
CBN.
THEY PROVIDE CLEAN WATER
FOR PEOPLE AND FOOD.
I WILL PROBABLY NEVER MEET
THOSE PEOPLE THIS SIDE OF
HEAVEN, BUT I BELIEVE SOME
DAY I WILL MEET THEM.
WE'RE TO BE THE HANDS AND
THE FEET OF JESUS, AND I
KNOW CBN DOES THAT.
THEY'RE VERY GOOD STEWARDS
OF GOD'S MONEY.
AND THEY'RE ACCOUNTABLE,
AND I TOTALLY RESPECT WHAT
THEY DO.
I DO ENJOY "THE 700
CLUB."
AND THE NEWS THAT WE GET
IS MORE INFORMATIVE AND
TRUTHFUL AND REALISTIC
THAN THE NEWS THAT YOU
HEAR IN YOUR DAY-TO-DAY
NEWS BROADCAST.
Reporter: DONNY AND
PATTY KNOW THAT WHEN THEY
GIVE, GOD IS ALWAYS
FAITHFUL.
SCRIPTURE SAYS THAT IN
THE MEASURE YOU GIVE, IT
WILL BE GIVEN BACK TO YOU,
PRESSED DOWN, SHAKEN
TOGETHER, RUNNING OVER.
HE GIVES GRACIOUSLY AND
ABUNDANTLY, ABOVE ALL WE
COULD EVER ASK.
THE BEST INVESTMENT YOU
COULD MAKE IS IN THE
KINGDOM OF GOD.
Pat: GOD USES FOLKS
LIKE THAT TO HELP CBN STAY
ON THE AIR, PAY ITS BILLS,
DO WHAT WE HAVE TO DO, TO
REACH OUT TO PEOPLE AROUND
THE WORLD.
I AM SO GRATEFUL TO THEM.
WHAT I WANT TO DO FOR
THOSE WHO JOIN "THE 700
CLUB," I WANT TO GIVE YOU
SOMETHING WHICH I THINK
CAN BE A BLESSING.
IT'S CALLED "THE
TRANSFORMING WORD."
AND I WAS PRIVILEGED TO GO
INTO OUR AUDIO ROOM AND
HAVE SELECTED SCRIPTURES
AND READ THEM, PRAYING,
HOPEFULLY, THAT THE LORD
WOULD USE IT.
AND ITS CALLED "THE
TRANSFORMING WORD."
IT IS A D.V.D. AND A C.D.
AND TERRY HAS A COMMENT.
Terry: THIS IS
ISRAEL, WHO LIVES IN
GEORGIA, WHO SAYS, "THE
TRANSFORMING WORD," VERSES
TO OVERCOME FEAR, IS AN
EXCELLENT AND EASILY
ACCESSIBLE TOOL THAT
REMINDS US OF HOW GOD
PROVIDES FOR US THROUGH
HIS WORD.
IT IS REALLY INSPIRING.
IT REALLY IS.
I ENJOY IT EVERY DAY.
Pat: FEAR NOT.
WHAT'S NEXT?
Terry: UP NEXT, A
YOUNG WOMAN IS HELD
CAPTIVE FOR THREE DAYS AND
SEXUALLY ABUSED.
I WAS SO TERRIFIED, AND
I ASKED GOD, PLEASE,
PLEASE, GOD, DON'T LET ME
DIE.
THERE IS NO WAY OUT OF
THIS SITUATION EXCEPT FOR
IF YOU HELP ME, GOD.
Terry: WATCH HOW SHE
ESCAPED WHEN WE COME BACK.
Terry: I CAN'T TRUST
ANYONE.
I'M NOT SAFE WITH ANYONE.
THAT'S WHAT 12-YEAR-OLD
RACHEL REPEATEDLY TOLD
HERSELF AFTER SHE WAS
RAPED BY TWO NEIGHBORS.
HER VIOLATION SET OFF A
CYCLE OF SHAME AND
SELF-ABUSE THAT STALKED
HER WELL INTO ADULTHOOD
AND ALMOST KILLED HER.
I FELT SO DEFILED, AND
I FELT LIKE ALL OF THE
INNOCENCE THAT I EVER HAD,
LIKE IT WAS TAKEN FROM ME.
Reporter: RACHEL WAS
JUST 12 YEARS OLD WHEN TWO
TEENAGED BOYS LURED HER
INTO A HOME AND RAPED HER.
IT CRUSHED MY HEART.
IT BROKE MY TRUST OF MEN,
OF PEOPLE.
Reporter: THE TWO
WERE ARRESTED AND
CONVICTED OF RAPE, BUT
THAT DID LITTLE TO EASE
THE PAIN.
AT 14, SHE STARTED CUTTING
AND DOVE INTO THE GOTHIC
LIFESTYLE.
SHE DABBLED IN WICCA AND
FANTASIZED ABOUT DEATH.
ON THE INSIDE, I FELT
SO DEAD AND SO NUMB.
AND I REALLY WANTED TO
DIE.
Reporter: THROUGHOUT
HER TEENS AND 20S, RACHEL
WAS IN AND OUT OF JAIL ON
DRUG-RELATED CHARGES.
THEN AT 21, SHE HAD A
DAUGHTER AND BECAME A
SINGLE MOM.
SHE MARRIED THE FOLLOWING
YEAR AND EVENTUALLY HAD A
SON.
AFTER SHE AND HER HUSBAND
DIVORCED, RACHEL LOST
CUSTODY OF HER SON AND
TURNED TO HARDER DRUGS,
LIKE METH.
MAY HEART WAS REALLY
BROKEN, AND THERE WAS AN
EMPTINESS THAT CAME THAT
IS INDESCRIBABLE.
Reporter: ONE DAY
RACHEL WENT TO A FRIEND'S
HOUSE, AND WHEN SHE
ARRIVED, HE BARRICADED THE
DOORS AND FOR THREE DAYS
PUMPED HER WITH HEROIN AND
SEXUALLY ABUSED HER.
ANY AMOUNT OF PEACE I
HAD IN MY HEART, AND ANY
HOPE I HAD FOR ANYTHING TO
EVER GET BETTER WAS
COMPLETELY TAKEN AWAY.
I WAS SO TERRIFIED.
AND I ASKED GOD, PLEASE,
PLEASE, GOD, DON'T LET ME
DIE.
Reporter: FINALLY
AFTER THREE DAYS, THE MAN
LET HER GO.
RACHEL SAYS SHORTLY
AFTERWARD, AN EVEN DARKER
DOOR OPENED UP IN HER
LIFE.
SHE STARTED CUTTING EVEN
MORE.
HERE IS WHERE I SLICED
THROUGH MY ARM WITH A
KNIFE.
IT WAS A WAY TO RELEASE
THE PAIN AND THE BOTTLED
UP EMOTIONS THAT I WAS
FEELING.
AND I DIDN'T KNOW HOW TO
GET IT OUT.
SO I WOULD CUT MYSELF.
Reporter: SHE FINALLY
REALIZED NEITHER THE DRUGS
NOR CUTTING WOULD BRING
RELIEF.
I JUST CRIED OUT TO
GOD.
AND I SAID, GOD, PLEASE
HELP ME.
I NEED A MIRACLE.
I NEED YOU TO SEND YOUR
ANGELS TO HELP ME.
THERE IS NO WAY OUT OF
THIS SITUATION EXCEPT FOR
IF YOU HELP ME, GOD.
AND I'M SORRY FOR FIGHTING
AGAINST YOU.
Reporter: A FEW DAYS
LATER, RACHEL AND HER
DAUGHTER MET A COUPLE WHO
TOLD HER ABOUT JESUS AND
THAT SHE NEEDED TO PUT HER
TRUST IN HIM.
I CONFESSED THAT I WAS
A SINNER AND THAT I NEEDED
JESUS, AND THAT I NEEDED
HIM TO COME AND TAKE OVER
MY LIFE.
AND I SURRENDERED
EVERYTHING TO HIM.
Reporter: SHE STILL
NEEDED TO BE HEALED FROM
THE WOUNDS OF ABUSE.
SHE SOON MET SCOTT AND
SANDY BOYD.
BOTH WERE PASTORS WHO
SPENT THE NEXT 30 DAYS
HELPING RACHEL FIND
FREEDOM IN CHRIST.
HE LED ME THROUGH
SEVERAL RENOUNCIATION
PRAYERS TO RENOUNCE DRUGS,
ALCOHOLISM, PAGANISM, ALL
OF THAT STUFF.
IT WAS A PROCESS.
Reporter: THEY ALSO
HELPED HER FORGIVE HER
ABUSERS.
I WAS, LIKE, I NEED
GOD'S FORGIVENESS, SO I'LL
FORGIVE.
Reporter: AT THE END
OF THE 30 DAYS, RACHEL
SAYS SHE WALKED IN FREEDOM
SHE NEVER EXPERIENCED
BEFORE.
IT WAS LIKE I WAS A
TOTALLY DIFFERENT PERSON,
AND I COULD BREATHE.
THIS WAS MY MOMENT OF,
LIKE, I AM A NEW CREATURE.
I AM A NEW BEING.
AND I HAVE A WHOLE NEW
LIFE, LIKE, IN FRONT OF
ME.
AND THINGS JUST STARTED TO
CHANGE.
Reporter: TODAY
RACHEL IS RAISING IVY, WHO
IS NOW A TEENAGER, AND SHE
HAS RECONNECTED WITH HER
SON.
RACHEL IS MARRIED TO
MICAH, AND SHE AND HER
HUSBAND SERVE AS
MISSIONARIES IN FINLAND,
WHERE THEY TEACH OTHERS
ABOUT THE LOVE AND FREEDOM
THAT CAN ONLY BE FOUND IN
JESUS CHRIST.
I NEVER STARTED LIVING
UNTIL I MET HIM.
HIS LOVE REALLY DOES
CHANGE EVERYTHING.
HE TAKES THE MOST BROKEN,
IMPOSSIBLE, HOPELESS MESS
AND HE CAN TURN IT AROUND
INTO SOMETHING BEAUTIFUL.
Terry: YOU KNOW, YOU
DON'T REALLY START LIVING
UNTIL YOU MEET HIM, UNTIL
YOU KNOW HIM, UNTIL YOU
LET HIM KNOW YOU BECAUSE
THAT'S WHAT YOU WERE
CREATED FOR.
THAT'S THE WAY IT IS
SUPPOSED TO BE.
AND SO WHEN WE FIGHT
AGAINST GOD, WHEN WE
REJECT HIM, WHEN WE REFUSE
TO HEAR THE THINGS THAT HE
HAS CREATED FOR US SO THAT
WE WOULD FEEL SAFE, SO WE
WOULD KNOW WE'RE LOVED, SO
WE COULD HAVE LIFE AND
HAVE IT ABUNDANTLY --
JESUS SAID THAT'S WHY HE
CAME.
IS YOUR LIFE ABUNDANT WITH
GOODNESS AND BLESSING,
WITH JOY, WITH PEACE?
YOU KNOW, WE TALKED
EARLIER ABOUT THE VERSES
THAT PAT PUT INTO THAT
C.D. AND D.V.D. TEACHING
THAT HE HAS GOT FOR US, TO
REMOVE FEAR FROM YOUR
LIFE, TO GIVE YOU THE JOY
AND THE PEACE THAT GOD
WANTS FOR YOU.
IF YOU AREN'T LIVING THAT,
IT IS BECAUSE YOU'RE
CHOOSING NOT TO.
THE BIBLE SAYS ANYONE CAN
HAVE IT.
GOD LOVES YOU.
EVEN IN THE MIDST OF YOUR
REBELLION, AND MAYBE
YOU'VE COME TO THE END OF
YOUR ROPE, LIKE RACHEL
THAT, WHERE THERE IS NO
HOPE LEFT AND IT IS JUST
DARK.
AND YOU THINK, HOW DO I
EVER GET OUT OF THIS?
HOW DO I EVER START OVER
AGAIN?
I CAN'T THINK OF A BETTER
WAY THAN TO GO TO YOUR
MAKER, THE ONE WHO CREATED
YOU WITH A PLAN AND A
PURPOSE IN MIND.
YOU DON'T HAVE TO CLEAN
YOURSELF UP.
YOU DON'T HAVE TO GET
BETTER.
YOU DON'T HAVE TO BE GOOD
ENOUGH.
IN FACT, THE TRUTH IS YOU
CAN'T.
THAT'S WHY JESUS CAME,
BECAUSE WE ARE SINNERS IN
NEED OF A SAVIOR.
HE SAYS, LET ME CLEAN YOU
UP.
LET ME LOVE YOU.
LET ME SHOW YOU WHAT YOU
WERE CREATED FOR.
LET ME TAKE ALL OF THE
FILT ANFILTH AND THE SHAME.
I CHALLENGE YOU TODAY TO
FIND WHERE ELSE YOU WOULD
FIND THAT.
SO HOW DO YOU BEGIN IT?
YOU SIMPLY GET ON YOUR
FACE BEFORE GOD AND SAY,
GOD, FORGIVE ME.
I AM SO SORRY FOR THE
THINGS I'VE DONE.
AND I WANT TODAY TO
FORGIVE OTHERS FOR WHAT
THEY'VE DONE TO ME SO THAT
YOU CAN FORGIVE ME.
I WANT EVERYTHING YOU HAVE
TO GIVE ME, GOD.
I WANT TO BE A NEW
CREATION.
I WANT TO KNOW JESUS.
I WANT MY THINKING TO
CHANGE, MY HEART TO
CHANGE, MY LIFE TO CHANGE.
AND SO I'M GIVING IT ALL
TO YOU.
I'M ASKING YOU FOR A
START-OVER, AND I RECEIVE
TODAY EVERYTHING HAVE YOU
TO GIVE TO ME.
DO THAT TODAY.
JUST TALK TO HIM.
HE IS RIGHT HERE.
HE IS WAITING FOR YOU TO
INVITE HIM INTO YOURSELF.
HE WILL TAKE UP RESIDENCE
AND LIVE IN YOU, NEVER
LEAVING YOU AGAIN.
NEVER FORSAKING YOU.
YOU'LL NEVER BE ALONE.
YOU WILL CHANGE, JUST LIKE
RACHEL DID.
JUST LIKE I DID.
IF YOU'D LIKE TO PRAY WITH
SOMEONE TODAY, CALL THE
TOLL-FREE NUMBER THAT HAS
JUST COME UP ON YOUR
SCREEN.
IT'S 1-800-759-0700.
NO CONDEMNATION; JUST A
FRIEND WHO HAS ALREADY
PRAYED THAT PRAYER WHO
WOULD LOVE TO PRAY WITH
YOU.
IF YOU DID PRAY THAT
PRAYER TODAY, WE WANT TO
SEND YOU "A NEW DAY" THIS
IS YOURS AND IT IS FREE.
ASK FOR IT WHEN YOU CALL.
PAT?
Pat: THANKS, TERRY.
WE LEAVE YOU WITH TODAY'S
POWER MINUTE FROM FROM
ACTS: "WHOSOEVER CALLS ON
THE NAME OF THE LORD SHALL
BE SAVED."
ON TOMORROW, WE HAVE "DUCK
DYNASTY'S" MISSY ROBERTSON
JOINING US LIVE, ALONG
WITH HER DAUGHTER, MIA.
YOU DON'T WANT TO MISS IT.
ALL DAY LONG, OUR
TELEPHONES ARE AVAILABLE
IF YOU NEED PRAYER OR
COUNSELLING OR YOU NEED
SOMEBODY TO LAUGH WITH
YOU, CRY WITH YOU, OR PRAY
FOR YOU.
THE NUMBER IS TOLL-FREE.
UNTIL TOMORROW, FOR TERRY
AND ALL OF US, I'LL SEE
YOU TOMORROW.
BYE-BYE.