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Chris: THIS WEEK ON

"JERUSALEM DATELINE," THE

DEBATE OVER THE IRANIAN

NUCLEAR DEAL INTENSIFIES.

IS IT THE WAY TO STOP IRAN

FROM GETTING A NUCLEAR

BOMB, OR WILL IT LEAD TO

WAR IN THE MIDDLE EAST?

PLUS AN INDEPTH INTERVIEW

WITH MICHAEL ORIN.

> AND HAS AMERICA FALLEN

TOO FAR FROM ITS FOUNDING

PRINCIPLES?

ALL OF THIS AND MORE THIS

WEEK ON "JERUSALEM

DATELINE."

> HELLO, AND WELCOME TO

THIS EDITION OF "JERUSALEM

DATELINE." I'M CHRIS

MITCHELL.

ISRAEL TODAY COULD BE

FACING ITS DEADLIEST

THREAT EVERY FROM A

NUCLEAR IRAN.

PRESIDENT OBAMA SAYS THIS

DEAL WILL PREVENT IRAN

FROM BUILDING NUCLEAR

WEAPONS, BUT ISRAELI PRIME

MINISTER BENJAMIN

NETANYAHU SAYS THE DEAL

COULD GUARANTEE THAT IRAN

GETS THE BOMB.

ISRAEL IS LOBBYING AGAINST

THE DEAL, WHILE THE OBAMA

ADMINISTRATION IS PUSHING

IN FAVOR OF IT.

AS CONGRESS BEGINS ITS 6

60-DAY PERIOD TO REVIEW

THE AGREEMENT.

MOST OF THE AMERICANS ARE

AGAINST THE DEAL.

48% DISAPPROVE, WHILE 38%

APPROVE A ACCORDING TO A NEW

POLL FROM THE PEW RESEARCH

CENTER.

THE POLL COMES AS ASHTON

CARTER VISITED ISRAEL TO

TALK ABOUT THE NEW NUCLEAR

AGREEMENT WITH IRAN.

ISRAEL CONTINUES TO WARN

IT IS A DANGER, AND NOT

JUST TO ISRAEL.

AFTER ISRAELI PRIME

MINISTER BENJAMIN

NETANYAHU MET WITH U.S.

DEFENSE SECRETARY ASH

CARTER, HE STILL CALLED IT

A BAD DEAL.

TODAY WE ARE TOLD THAT

THE WHOLE WORLD SUPPORTS

THIS BAD DEAL.

WELL, THAT IS JUST NOT

TRUE.

ISRAEL AND MANY ARAB

STATES OPPOSE THIS DEAL.

AND IN ANY CASE, SOMETIMES

THE ENTIRE WORLD CAN BE

WRONG.

Chris: AS THE DEBATE

OVER THE AGREEMENT SHIFT

TO CAPITOL HILL, ISRAELI

OFFICIALS ARE CALLING

ATTENTION TO THE DANGER

THAT IRAN POSSESS NOT JUST

TO ISRAEL, BUT TO THE

UNITED STATES.

WHEN WE ARE SPEAKING

ABOUT IRAN, WE ARE DEALING

WITH A COUNTRY WHO'S

LEADERSHIP CALLS FOR DEATH

TO AMERICA.

IT'S NOT AS THOUGH ISRAEL

IS TAKING ACTION BECAUSE

IF IT ALONE ISIN THE

CROSS-HAIRS OF THE

MILITARY.

THE UNITED STATES IS IN

THE CROSS-HAIRS OF THE

IRAN MILITARY.

Chris: DORI GOLD TOLD

REPORTERTHAT IRAN NOT

ONLY SHOUTS DEATH TO

AMERICA, BUT ALSO OANTS OPERATES

INSIDE THE UNITED STATES.

AMERICA IS TARGETED BY

IRAN.

HEZBOLLAH TODAY, WHICH

IS -- LET'S BE CLEAR ABOUT

IT, HEZBOLLAH IS AN

EXTENSION OF THE IRANIAN

SECURITY APPARATUS.

IT HAS NETWORKS IN EUROPE

AND IN THE UNITED STATES.

AND WE SAY THAT BOTH THE

REVOLUTIONARY GUARDS AND

HEZBOLLAH ARE OPERATING IN

30 COUNTRIES, ACCORDING TO

OUR BEST INFORMATION.

Chris: DESPITE THE

WORLDWIDE INFLUENCE OF

HEZBOLLAH AND IRAN'S

REVOLUTIONARY GUARD, THE

AGREEMENT GIVES A LONG

LIST, 70 PAGES OF IRANIAN

COMPANIES, ENTITIES, AND

INDIVIDUALS, FREEDOM FROM

SANCTIONS.

THAT WILL REPRESENT A

WINDFALL FOR IRAN'S

ECONOMY.

CRITICS WARN THAT IRAN

COULD USE SOME OF THAT

MONEY TO FUND TERRORIST

ACTIVITIES AROUND THE

WORLD.

THE U.N. SECURITY COUNCIL

VOTED UNANIMOUSLY TO ADOPT

THE DEAL.

IT WILL LIFT U.N.

SANCTIONS OFF OF IRAN IN

EXCHANGE FOR CURBING ITS

NUCLEAR PROGRAM.

RON PROSSER SPOKE OUT

AGAINST THE VOTE.

LADIES AND GENTLEMEN,

TODAY YOU HAVE AWARDED A

GREAT PRIZE TO THE MOST

DANGEROUS COUNTRY IN THE

WORLD.

FOR THE FIRST TIME ANYONE

CAN REMEMBER, ISRAEL AND

THE ARAB WORLD SEE EYE TO

EYE: THIS DEAL IS

DANGEROUS FOR THE REGION,

FOR THE PEOPLE OF THE

REGION, JEWS, MUSLIMS AND

CHRISTIANS ALIKE, AND FOR

THE ENTIRE WORLD.

Chris: THE DEAL GIVES

IRAN UP TO $150 BILLION IN

SANCTIONS RELIEF, AND NEW

BUSINESS COULD ADD

$5 BILLION TO $700 BILLION

TO THE IRANIAN ECONOMY IN

THE NEXT DECADE.

CRITICS SAY IRAN COULD USE

SOME OF THAT MONEY TO

SUPPORT TERRORISM.

BOTH REPUBLICANS AND

DEMOCRATS ON CAPITOL HILL

CRITICIZE THE OBAMA

ADMINISTRATION FOR GOING

TO THE U.N. BEFORE TAKING

IT TO CONGRESS.

AND AYATOLLAH KHAMENEI

PROMISED TO SUPPORT THE

REGION.

AND 47% OF ISRAELIS WOULD

SUPPORT A UNILATERAL

STRIKE AGAINST IRAN'S

NUCLEAR PROGRAM.

DALE HURD TALKED WITH

DAVID WELTZER, ISRAEL'S

AMBASSADOR TO THE EUROPEAN

UNION AND NATO, ABOUT THE

SITUATION WITH IRAN AND

OTHER ISSUES FACING THE

JEWISH STATE.

Reporter: JOINING US

NOW AT OUR CBN NEWS STUDIO

IN BRUSSELS IS ISRAELI

AMBASSADOR TO THE EUROPEAN

UNION, MR. WELTZER.

GOOD AFTERNOON.

GOOD AFTERNOON.

THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME.

Reporter: WHAT IS THE

DEAL HERE?

WHY MAKE A DEAL WITH A

COUNTRY WITH SUCH A BAD

TRACK RECORD.

IF YOU LOOK AT THE

MIDDLE EAST, THE LEADERS,

THE INTERNATIONAL

COMMUNITY, TEND TO PUT OUT

FIRES WHICH ARE BURNING

OUR FINGERS AND NOT DEAL

WITH WHAT IS IMPORTANT,

BUT DEALING WITH WHAT IS

BURNING.

AND THE NOTION THAT IRAN

CAN BE OR MIGHT BE OR

SHOULD BE A PARTNER FOR US

IN THE INTERNATIONAL

COMMUNITY, IS SOLVING

PROBLEMS IN THE REGION,

AND THEREFORE WE BETTER

TRY TO DEAL WITH IT -- I

THINK THIS IS A BIG

MISTAKE.

IF YOU LOOK AT ALL THE WAY

FROM THE HEZBOLLAH, TO THE

HOUTHIS IN YEMEN, TO WHAT

IS GOING ON IN SYRIA, YOU

CAN UNDERSTAND THAT A

NUCLEAR IRAN, OR IRAN

AFTER THAT DEAL, IRAN,

WHICH WILL BE EQUIPPED

WITH MUCH MORE MONEY TO

SUPPORT ITS STRUGGLE FOR

DOMINANCE IN THE REGION,

IS A MUCH MORE

PROBLEMATIC, MUCH MORE

DANGEROUS THING.

SOME HAVE SEEN SAID, SO

WHAT?

EITHER WE TRY TO DEAL OR

WE GO TO WAR WITH IRAN.

I'M SORRY, THAT IS NOT THE

ONLY OPTIONS.

THE INTERNATIONAL

COMMUNITY HAS PROVEN THAT

SANCTIONS DO WORK, AND

IRAN HAS COME TO THE

TABLE.

SO WHY NOT GO ON USING THE

MEASURE YOU HAVE BEEN

IMPLEMENTING SUCCESSFULLY?

Reporter: HOW WOULD

YOU CHARACTERIZE RELATIONS

BETWEEN THE OBAMA WHITE

HOUSE AND PRIME MINISTER

NETANYAHU'S GOVERNMENT?

WE HAVE BASIC

DISAGREEMENTS.

AND DISAGREEMENTS ON SOME

FUNDAMENTAL AND BASIC

ISSUES.

BUT THOSE OCCUR IN THE

MOST INTIMATE COMPANIES,

EVEN WITHIN FAMILIES.

SO HOSTILITY, I DON'T

THINK REFLECTS THE REALITY

OF OUR RELATIONS.

I THINK THAT ISRAEL AND

THE UNITED STATES -- OR

SHOULD I SAY THE UNITED

STATES AND ISRAEL ARE VERY

CLOSE ALLIES AND VERY GOOD

FRIENDS.

Reporter: ARE YOU

SURPRISED THAT WE'RE,

AGAIN, DEALING WITH THIS

ANTI-SEMITISM IN EUROPE?

I'M NOT SURE WHETHER

I'M SURPRISED.

BUT I HOPED VERY MUCH THAT

70 YEARS AFTER THE

HOLOCAUST, ANTI-SEMITISM

WILL NEVER BE ON THE RISE

AGAIN IN EUROPE.

AND THE FACT THAT WE'RE

TALKING ABOUT IT TODAY,

AND THE FACT THAT THE JEWS

ON THIS CONTINENT ASK

THEMSELVES WHETHER THEY

SHOULD STAY HERE OR LEAVE,

BY ITSELF IS FRIGHTENING.

Reporter: IS THE TIME

OF THE JEWS IN EUROPE

OVER?

I THINK THAT THE THREAT

IS GROWING, AND THE

DANGERS ARE MUCH BIGGER

THAN THEY USED TO BE.

BY THE END OF THE DAY, IT

SHOULD BE THE DECISION OF

EVERY PERSON WHETHER HE

WANTS TO PACK AND LEAVE

FOR ISRAEL OR FO FOR THE

STATES OR FOR ANYWHERE IN

THE WORLD.

I THINK THE FACT THAT

PEOPLE ASK THEMSELVES THIS

QUESTION IS, BY ITSELF,

FRIGHTENING.

MIND YOU, JEWS HAVE LIVED

IN THIS CONTINENT FOR

THOUSANDS OF YEARS.

THE FACT THAT THEY HAVE TO

ASK THEMSELVES WHETHER IT

IS STILL THEIR HOME IS, BY

ITSELF, FRIGHTENING.

Reporter: I CAN'T

HELP BUT ASK, IS THERE A

FEELING THAT IN ISRAEL

THAT YOU'RE LOSING FRIENDS

IN THE WORLD, THAT THE

NUMBER OF NATIONS YOU CAN

COUNT ON CONTINUES TO

SHRINK?

WE WOULD LIKE TO BE, IF

YOU WISH, MORE POPULAR,

BUT WE WILL STAY THE

COURSE.

WE KNOW THAT WE FIGHT FOR

SOMETHING WHICH IS JUST.

AND WE WILL STAY THE

COURSE.

Reporter: I KNOW OUR

MANY CBN VIEWERS WHO

SUPPORT ISRAEL ARE PRAYING

FOR ISRAEL AND STANDING

WITH IT.

AMBASSADOR WELTZER, THANK

YOU FOR JOINING US.

UP NEXT WE TALK ABOUT

HOW THE NUCLEAR TALKS WILL

AFFECT THE REGION.

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Chris: WELCOME BACK.

JUST BEFORE THE IRANIAN

DEAL WAS STRUCK, WE TALKED

WITH MIDDLE EAST EXPERT

JONATHAN SPIRE ABOUT HOW

THE NUCLEAR DEAL WITH IRAN

WOULD AFFECT THE REGION.

HE TOLD US IT WOULD LEAD

TO A NUCLEAR ARMS RACE.

WELL, IT WILL BE A

MUCH, MUCH MORE DANGEROUS

AND VOLATILE REGION IN A

REGION THAT IS VERY

VOLATILE IN TERMS OF BEING

SPLIT BY POWERFUL STATES

OPPOSING ONE ANOTHER IN

AREAS IN WHICH GOVERNANCE

EFFECTIVELY COLLAPSED.

THE IRANIANS VERSES THE

SAUDIS/TURKS.

AND ALSO IN YEMEN IN A

DIFFERENT WAY.

ALL OF THE EXISTING

CONFLICTS WILL BE, OF

COURSE, EXACERBATED BY THE

PARALLEL PRESENCE OF A

PROLIFERATION OF NUCLEAR

ARMS IN THE REGION.

IT WILL INCREASE THE

DANGERS IN AN ALREADY VERY

DANGEROUS NEIGHBORHOOD.

Chris: AND ALSO ABOUT

THE SANCTIONS RELIEF THAT

SEEMS TIED TO THE

NEGOTIATIONS, IT COULD

RELEASE BILLIONS OF

DOLLARS BACK INTO IRAN.

WHAT EFFECT WILL THAT

HAPPEN?

IF THIS HAPPENS, IT

WILL BE HUGE.

THEY TALK ABOUT

$150 BILLION SITTING

THERE, MAINLY IN FROZEN

OIL REVENUE.

IF THAT COMES BACK ON LINE

IN THE COMING LINES, THIS

WILL BE AN ENORMOUS SHOT

IN THE ARM FOR THE

IRANIANS, WHO ARE IN

DANGER OF BEING A LITTLE

OVERSTRETCHED.

THEY'VE GOT COMMITMENTS IN

IRAQ, AND THEY'RE

COMMITTED TO SUPPORTING

THE HOUTHIS IN YEMEN, AND

THEY'RE COMMITTED TO

HEZBOLLAH IN LEBANON, AND

THEY'RE SUPPORTING ISLAMIC

JIHAD AND ALSO THE

AL-QAEDA.

IT REQUIRES A LOT OF MONEY

FOR A STATE UNDER HEAVY

SANCTIONS TO COPE WITH.

IF THE SANCTIONS ARE

LIFTED AND TENS OR

HUNDREDS OF BILLIONS OF

DOLLARS BECOME AVAILABLE

AGAIN, THE IRANIANS WILL

BE IN A HAPPY POSITION TO

EXPEDENTIALLY INCREASE THE

SUPPORT FOR THEIR VARIOUS

BELEAGUERD PRESENCE AND

ALLIES.

Chris: WHAT POSSIBLE

EXPLANATION IS THERE FOR A

DEAL WITH IRAN THEN?

AS FAR AS UNDERSTAND

THE THINKING OF THE

ADMINISTRATION AND THE

EUROPEAN ALLIES AS WELL,

IT IS THEY BELIEVE THAT

IRAN IS WILLING, OR IS IN

A POSITION TO BE FLIPPED,

SO TO SPEAK, FROM AN

ANTI-WESTERN FORCE INTO A

NEUTRAL OR PRO-WESTERN

FORCE IN THE REGION.

THERE ARE EVEN SOME -- AND

I READ AN ARTICLE IN THE

BRITISH NEWSPAPER BY

FORMER AMBASSADOR

CHRISTOPHER MAYER, WHO

ARGUES IRAN, ONCE IT IS

FLIPPED, COULD ACTUALLY

BECOME A FACTOR OF ORDER,

TO BECOME A WESTERN ALLY.

THERE IS THIS

STRONGLY-HELD BELIEF THAT

IRAN IS WAITING TO BECOME

A REASONABLE PLAYER IN THE

REGION.

THAT IS UNDERLYING ALL OF

THIS STUFF THAT IS GOING

ON.

MY OWN ESTIMATION FOR

SOMEBODY WHO WATCHES THIS

REGION PRETTY CLOSELY IS

THERE NO CONTENT TO THAT

BELIEF.

THE IRANIANS ARE VERY

SERIOUS ABOUT THEIR

ANTI-AMERICAN STANCE,

ABOUT THEIR DESIRE TO

DESTROY ISRAEL.

AND THEY'RE ABSOLUTELY

SERIOUS.

AND IF THEY'RE GIVEN

INDUCEMENTS, THEY'LL

HAPPILY TAKE THOSE AND

FEED THOSE INTO THE

CONTINUED PROMOTION OF THE

ALREADY EXISTING STRATEGY

THEY HAVE, WHICH IS TO

REPLACE THE UNITED STATES

AS THE HEDOMONIC PRESENCE

IN THE GULF AND ACROSS THE

REGION.

Chris: IF YOU WERE

TALKING TO SOMEBODY IN THE

WEST OR GREAT BRITAIN OR

EUROPE, WHAT WOULD YOU SAY

THEY NEED TO UNDERSTAND?

FIRST AND MOST

IMPORTANTLY THAT THE

IRANIANS ARE NOT AVAILABLE

TO BE TURNING ALLIES.

AND SECONDLY THAT

SUNNI/JIHADI ISLAM

REPRESENTS A VERY, VERY

PROFOUND DANGER TO THE

SECURITY OF WESTERN

COUNTRIES THEMSELVES.

GIVEN THAT, WHAT THEY NEED

TO BE DOING IS IDENTIFYING

WHAT ALLIES DO THEY HAVE

IN THESE COLLAPSED STATE

AREAS OF IRAQ AND SYRIA

AND ELSEWHERE.

ONCE THEY IDENTIFY THOSE

ALLIES, BEGINNING TO WORK

WITH THEM TO CREATE A NEW

COHERENT ARC CHE ARCHITECTURE IN

THE REGION.

THERE ARE PLENTY WHO WANT

TO BE FRIENDS, THE GULF

MONARCHYS, THE

JORDANIANS -- IT IS A

PRETTY STRONG TEAM, BUT

THEY FEEL THE WEST HASN'T

GOTTEN BEHIND IT.

WHAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN IS

THE DANGER NEEDS TO BE

ADDRESSED, AND THE ALLIES

NEED TO BE COORDINATED AND

DEVELOPED.

Chris: COMING UP, AN

INDEPTH INTERVIEW WITH

MICHAEL ORIN, THE FORMER

ISRAELI AMBASSADOR TO THE

U.S., ABOUT HIS NEW BACK

ON THE U.S./ISRAELI

RELATIONS.

Chris: WELCOME BACK.

OVER THE LAST SIX YEARS,

THE RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN

PRESIDENT OBAMA AND

BENJAMIN NETANYAHU HAS

DETERIORATED, AND ALL THE

WHILE, MICHAEL OREN, THE

FORMER ISRAELI AMBASSADOR

TO THE U.S., HAS HAD A

FRONT-ROW SEAT.

JENNIFER WISHON TALKED

WITH HIM ABOUT HOW THINGS

HAVE GONE BETWEEN THE U.S.

AND ISRAEL DURING THE

OBAMA YEARS AND WHAT CAN

BE DONE TO REPAIR THE

DAMAGE.

Reporter: HOW WOULD

YOU CHARACTERIZE RIGHT NOW

THE RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN

THE U.S. AND ISRAEL?

ON ONE HAND, THE

RELATIONSHIP REALLY HAVE

NEVER BEEN BETTER.

SUPPORT FOR ISRAEL IN THIS

COUNTRY IS AT AN ALL-TIME

HIGH.

WE HAVE A CERTAIN

DIFFICULT AND COMPLEX

RELATIONSHIP WITH THIS

ADMINISTRATION.

BECAUSE THE PRESIDENT HAD

A WORLD VIEW.

AND THE WOR WORLD VIEW

INCLUDED VERY OPEN SUPPORT

FOR THE PALESTINIAN CAUSE,

AN OPEN ATTEMPT TO

RECONCILE WITH IRAN, AND

IRAN WANTS TO DESTROY US.

SO THERE IS ALREADY A

PROBLEM.

THE DEAL ON THE TABLE NOW,

WHICH ENABLES IRAN TO KEEP

ALL OF ITS NUCLEAR

INFRASTRUCTURE, ITS

CENTRIFUGES, ITS

FACILITIES, THAT DOESN'T

INCLUDE RESEARCH AND

DEVELOPMENT -- THEY COULD

MAKE MORE ADVANCED

MACHINERY -- AND IT

DOESN'T INCLUDE THE

MISSILES, AND IT IS NOT

LINKED TO IRAN'S BEHAVIOR.

IRAN IS THE WORLD'S

LARGEST SPONSOR OF STATE

TERRORISM.

IF THE AGREEMENT IS NOT

ATTACHED OR LINKED IN ANY

WAY TO A CHANGE IN IRAN'S

BEHAVIOR, THEN IT IS A BAD

DEAL.

AND IT ENDANGERS MY

COUNTRY.

BUT BEYOND THAT, IT WILL

ENDANGER AMERICA.

AND PEOPLE HAVE TO

INTERNALIZE THAT.

I KNOW IT SOUNDS VERY

ABSTRACT, BUT UNDERSTAND

THEY HAVE MISMS.

HAVE MISSILES.

AND THOSE MISSILES WILL BE

ABLE TO REACH THIS STUDIO

IN A MATTER OF YEARS.

AND THEY HAVE ONE PURPOSE:

TO CARRY A NUCLEAR WAR

HEAD.

Reporter: CAN THE

DAMAGE THAT YOU SAY

PRESIDENT OBAMA HAS

BROUGHT ON U.S.-ISRAELI

RELATIONS BE REPAIRED?

ONE OF THE MOST

CARDINAL THINGS WE CAN DO

IS RESTORE THESE TWO

PRINCIPLES, CALLED NO

DAYLIGHT AND NO SURPRISES.

NO DAYLIGHT SAYS WE CAN

DISAGREE BETWEEN A NUMBER

OF THINGS.

BUT IT IS VERY IMPORTANT

WE DON'T HAVE OUR

DISAGREEMENTS OUT IN THE

WORLD.

BECAUSE OUR COMMON ENEMIES

WILL INTERPRET IT AS

WEAKNESS AND THEY WILL USE

IT AGAINST US.

YOU ARE A MEMBER OF THE

KNESSET?

YES.

IN THE KNESSET YOU YELL

AND SCREAM.

PEOPLE IN CONGRESS DON'T

ACTUALLY CURSE ONE

ANOTHER, BUT I THINK IF

THE SEATS WEREN'T SCREWED

DOWN, PEOPLE WOULD BE

THROWING THEM.

ALL OF THIS IS HAPPENING A

TWO-HOUR DRIVE FROM ISIS.

IT IS A DISTANCE BETWEEN

WHERE WE'RE SITTING AND

PHILADELPHIA.

Reporter: YOU SAY

YOUR GREATEST JOY IS

HAVING ISRAELI

GRANDCHILDREN.

I THINK I AM THE

LUCKIEST MAN GOING TO BE

ALIVE IN HISTORY AT THIS

MOMENT.

TO COME TO ISRAEL AND

START WITH NOTHING.

I CAME WITH A BACKPACK,

AND BACK THEN IT WAS 40

YEARS AGO, AND IT WAS LIKE

THE WILDWEST.

TO BUILD A FAMILY AND THEN

TO LOOK AT THESE TWO

ISRAELI GRANDCHILDREN IS

MY GREATEST ACCOMPLISHMENT

IN LIFE.

Reporter: JENNIFER

WISHON, CBN NEWS,

WASHINGTON.

Chris: UP NEXT, HAS

AMERICA LOST ITS WAY AND

FALLEN TOO FAR FROM ITS

FOUNDING PRINCIPLES?

WE EXAMINE IF IT IS TIME

FOR A U-TURN FOR THE U.S.

Chris: WELCOME BACK.

RECENTLY AMERICA MARKED

ITS 239th INDEPENDENCE

DAY, THE BIRTH OF WHAT

MANY CONSIDER THE GREATEST

NATION ON EARTH.

BUT AS PAUL STRAND

REPORTS, MANY AMERICANS

WORRY THAT THE COUNTRY HAS

FALLEN SO FAR FROM ITS

HISTORIC VALUES THAT IT IS

DOOMED UNLESS IT MAKES A

SERIOUS U-TURN.

Reporter: THIS TIME

OF YEAR, AMERICANS ARE

USED TO CELEBRATING THE

NATION'S BIRTHDAY AND ITS

GREATNESS.

BUT THEY MAY SOON BE

MOURNING ITS DOWNFALL.

THAT'S THE CONCLUSION THAT

THESE TWO GENTLEMEN CAME

TO.

THAT ANY CIVILIZATION THAT

HAS GONE WHERE AMERICA HAS

GONE TO NOW HAS BEEN

RUINED.

AMERICA GAVE US AN

AMAZING FOUNDATION.

Reporter: THE EARLY

AMERICANS WERE SHAPED BY

THE BIBLE AND THE

JUDEO-CHRISTIAN VIEW.

EVERY LEADER THOUGHT WE

SHOULD READ THE BIBLE.

NOT TODAY.

Reporter: TODAY, ONLY

30% OF CHRISTIANS READ THE

BIBLE, AND LESS THAN 10%

FROM COVER TO COVER, AND

IT SHOWS.p

ONLY 9% OF BORN-AGAIN

CHRISTIANS HAVE A BIBLICAL

WORLD VIEW.

ONLY 51% OF PASTORS HAVE A

BIBLICAL WORLD VIEW.

Reporter: IT HAS LED

TO A COMPLETE CHANGE IN

VALUES OVER 240 YEARS.

THEN SERVICE TO OTHERS

RULED THE DAY.

YOUR ORDER OF

RESPONSIBILITIES IS GOD,

COUNTRY, AND FAMILY.

THAT IS PART OF THE

BIBLICAL THINKING THEY

HAD, WHICH IS WHY THE

FOUNDING FATHERS WERE TOLD

AND SPECIFICALLY TAUGHT IN

SCHOOLS, IF SOMEONE COMES

TO YOU AND SAYS WE NEED

YOU TO RUN FOR OFFICE,

YOU'RE NOT ALLOWED TO SAY

NO.

YOU SAY, I WILL RUN.

BECAUSE, AS THEY POINT

OUT, YOUR LIFE DOESN'T

BELONG TO YOU.

Reporter: TODAY IT IS

ALL ABOUT ME.

NOW WE'RE JUST WORRIED

ABOUT COMFORT AND

EXPERIENCES AND

ENTERTAINMENT AND

SECURITY.

Reporter: THAT HAS

LED TO A WORLD OF THINGS

THAT CAN PILE UP THE KIND

OF DEBT THAT CAN KILL A

COUNTRY.

THE AVERAGE AMERICAN

FAMILY IS LOOKING USUALLY

OF A MORTGAGE DEBT OF

ABOUT $130,000.

CREDIT CARD DEBT OF ABOUT

$21,000.

LOOKING AT A CAR DEBT OF

$23,000, A LEDGE LOAN DEBT

OF ABOUT $24,000.

WE'RE SO FAR IN DEBT WE

TOLERATE IT IN OTHERS.

Reporter: LIKE OUR

FEDERAL GOVERNMENT.

WHERE WE ARE NOW WILL

TAKE 107 YEARS TO PAY OFF

THE DEBT WE HAVE RIGHT

NOW.

WE'RE AT THE POINT WHERE

60% OF AMERICANS RECEIVE

MORE FROM THE GOVERNMENT

THAN WHAT THEY PUT IN.

YOU CAN'T SUSTAIN THAT.

Reporter: COMPARE

THAT TO WHAT THOMAS

JEFFERSON SAID.

WE CAN LIVE IN DEBT AND

EXTRAVAGANCE, BUT WE'LL BE

IN SLAVERY.

OR WE CAN BE FREE, BUT WE

HAVE TOSE FRUGALITY.

AND SO THE FOUNNG

FATHERS ARE VERY, VERY

CLEAR THAT WOULD WILL

DESTROY A NATION IS DEBT.

Reporter: SO WHERE

DOES THAT INDICATE AMERICA

IS HEADED?

INTO THE ASH HEAP OF

HISTORY.

Reporter: THEY

INVITED THE TWO MEN TO

ATTEND THIS PENNSYLVANIA

PASTORS' NETWORK BECAUSE

HE WANTS A DIFFERENT

OUTCOME.

GOD'S JUDGMENT ON

AMERICA, WHICH IS VERY

OBVIOUSLY HERE, WILL PUT

US DOWN ON OUR KNEES UNTIL

WE LOOK UP.

Reporter: CHURCH

FOLKS OFTEN SAY, LOOK AT

WHAT THOSE PEOPLE ARE

DOING TO WRECK OUR

COUNTRY, BUT CHURCH PEOPLE

ARE JUST AS GUILTY AS

THEIR GOVERNMENT OF THE

SAME KIND OF RUINOUS

BEHAVIORS THAT ARE TAKING

THE COUNTRY DOWN.

Reporter: BARNA, ON A

REGULAR BASIS ASKED

CHRISTIANS AND

NON-CHRISTIANS ABOUT 70

QUESTIONS ON NORTHERLY

STANDPOINTS.

AND HE IS FINDING NOW

DIFFERENCE BETWEEN

CHRISTIANS AND

NON-CHRISTIANS WHEN IT

COMES TO MOST MORAL

ISSUES.

STOP POINTING THE

FINGER AND LOOK AT

OURSELVES AND SAY, ARE WE

REALLY THE CHURCH THAT

CHRIST DIED ON THE CROSS

FOR.

WE ARE THE PROBLEM.

WE HAVE WALKED AWAY FROM

YOU.

AND THE CULTURE HAS

FOLLOWED US, NOT THE OTHER$?

WAY AROUND.

Reporter: HE SAYS

TODAY'S AMERICANS BELIEVE

THEY'RE SMARTER THAN THE

FOUNDERS MAYBE BECAUSE THE

TECHNOLOGY AND EDUCATION.

THEY DIDN'T HAVE ALL OF

THE THINGS WE THINK ARE

NECESSARY TO HAVE A

SOPHISTICATED SOCIETY

TODAY, BUT THE KEY ISN'T

SOPHISTICATION.

IT IS WISDOM.

IT IS DISCERNMENT.

IT IS LOVE.

IT'S GRACE.

SO UNTIL WE GET BACK

INTO GOD'S PLAN AND KNOW

WHAT HIS PLAN IS, WE'LL

NEVER GET THE NATION BACK

TO WHERE IT NEEDS TO BE.

Reporter: TODAY WE

THINK THAT MANKIND HAS

EVOLVED, WE'RE SMARTER AND

WISER THAN THE PEOPLE WHO

FOUNDED THE COUNTRY, YET

THEY WERE SO WISE THEY

FOUNDED THE GREATEST

NATION ON THE EARTH, WHILE

TODAY'S GENERATION IS WELL

ON THEIR WAY TO LOSING IT.

PAUL STRAND, CBN NEWS,

REPORTING FROM LANCASTER

BIBLE COLLEGE.

Chris: PAUL'S STORY

IS A POWERFUL REMINDER

THAT WHAT HAPPENS TO THE

U.S. HAS AN IMPACT HERE IN

ISRAEL AND THROUGHOUT THE

MIDDLE EAST.

HAD IS IT FOR THIS EDITION

OF "JERUSALEM DATELINE."

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