On this week's edition of The Watchman CBN's Middle East Bureau Chief, Chris Mitchell, fills in for Erick to examine the disastrous Iran nuclear deal and the jihadist genocide against Christians in the Middle East.
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Erick: HELLO, AND
WELCOME TO "THE WATCHMAN."
I'M CHRIS MITCHELL FILLING
IN FOR ERICK STAKELBECK.
AT THE TIME OF OUR TAPING,
NEGOTIATORS IN VIENNA ARE
POISED TO SIGN AN HISTORIC
DEAL, WITH THE U.S., FIVE
OTHER WORLD POWERS, AND
IRAN OVER IRAN'S NUCLEAR
PROGRAM.
THE AIM OF THE AGREEMENT
IS TO STOP IRAN FROM
GETTING A NUCLEAR DEVICE.
BUT LEADERS HERE IN
JERUSALEM AND OTHERS IN
WASHINGTON ARE DOUBTFUL.
THE DEAL WOULD, IN THEORY,
LIMIT IRAN'S NUCLEAR
PROGRAM IN EXCHANGE FOR
RELIEF OF ECONOMIC
SANCTIONS.
AFTER MORE THAN TWO WEEKS
OF INTENSE TALKS AND
EFFORTS THAT BEGAN MORE
THAN A DECADE AGO TO CURB
IRAN'S ENRICHMENT
URANIUM, THE WORLD POWERS
SEEM ON THE CUSP OF A GREY
CUP THROUGH IN VIENNA.
BUT HERE IN JERUSALEM, ONE
JOURNALIST SAID THE DEAL
WAS POSSIBLE BECAUSE THE
U.S. CAPITULATED ON ALMOST
EVERY KEY ISSUE OF THE
NEGOTIATIONS.
AND ISRAELI PRIME MINISTER
BENJAMIN NETANYAHU WARNED
THE CONCESSIONS MADE BY
THE SIX WORLD POWERS OF
VIENNA WON'T LEAD TO
PEACE, BUT WILL THREATEN
WORLD PEACE.
Translator: CONCESSIONS,
EVEN ON ISSUES THAT WERE
CONSIDERED ON CROSSING RED
LINES IN THE DEAL, WHICH
IS A BAD DEAL ON ITS OWN,
IT PAVES IRAN'S WAY TO
MANY NUCLEAR BOMBS AND
GIVES IRAN HUNDREDS OF
BILLIONS OF DOLLARS TO ITS
TERROR AND OCCUPATION
SYSTEM.
SO THIS AGREEMENT IS
PUTTING AT RISK THE PEACE
OF THE WORLD.
Chris: DESPITE THE
NEGOTIATIONS IN TEHRAN,
AYATOLLAH KHAMENEI SAYS
IRAN REMAINS AN ENEMY OF
THE U.S.
THEIR PRESIDENT ROUHANI
LED A MARCH WHERE
DEMONSTRATORS BURNED U.S.
AND ISRAELI FLAGS, AND
CALLED FOR DEATH TO
AMERICA AND DEATH TO
ISRAEL.
BACK IN WASHINGTON,
DEMOCRATIC AND REPUBLICAN
SENATORS REMAINED
SKEPTICAL AND SAID SO ON
THE SUNDAY TALK SHOWS.
WE HAVE GONE FROM
PREVENTING IRAN HAVING A
NUCLEARILITY TO
MANAGING IT.
AND WHAT WE ARE DOING IS
BASICALLY ROLLING BACK
SANCTIONSANCTIONS FOR -- NOT
ROLLING BACK IRAN'S
NUCLEAR INFRASTRUCTURE.
WE ALREADY KNOW IT'S
GOING TO LEAVE IRAN AS A
THRESHOLD NUCLEAR STATE.
WE KNOW THAT.
IT APPEARS AS IF THE
ADMINISTRATION'S APPROACH
TO THIS WAS TO REACH
WHATEVER AGREEMENT THE
IRANIANS ARE WILLING TO
ENTER INTO.
Chris: THE SENATE
WILL HAVE 60 DAYS TO
REVIEW ANY DEAL SENT BY
PRESIDENT OBAMA.
SENATOR TOM COTTON REMAINS
ONE SKEPTIC.
I THINK WHATEVER DEAL
COMES OUT THIS WEEKEND IS
GOING TO BE DANGEROUS FOR
THE UNITED STATES AND
DANGEROUS FOR THE WORLD.
Chris: ONE DANGER
MANY CITE IS THE FEAR THAT
THE DEAL WILL SET OFF A
NUCLEAR ARMS RACE IN THE
MIDDLE EAST.
I THINK IT WILL.
LEADERS OF A WHOLE NUMBER
OF COUNTRIES, SAUDI
ARABIA, TURKEY, HAVE
SPOKEN THE POSSIBILITY OR
LIKELIHOOD OF THEIR NEED
TO EXPLORE THEIR OWN
OPTIONS.
THE WORLD WILL BE A MUCH
MORE DANGEROUS REGION.
Chris: WE TALKED MORE
ABOUT THE NEGOTIATIONS
WITH IRAN WITH MIDDLE EAST
EXPERT JONATHAN SPIRE,
DIRECTOR OF THE RUBIN
CENTER FOR INTERNATIONAL
AFFAIRS.
IT LOOKS LIKE THERE IS
A BREAKTHROUGH AND AN
AGREEMENT, PERHAPS AN
HISTORIC AGREEMENT.
WILL THAT LEAD TO A
NUCLEAR ARMS RACE IN THE
MIDDLE EAST?
I THINK IT WILL.
LEADERS OF A WHOLE NUMBER
OF COUNTRIES, ALSO SAUDI
ARABIA, ALSO TURKEY, HAVE
SPEN ABOUT THE POSSIBILITY
SPOKEN ABOUT THE
LIKELIHOOD TO EXPLORE
THEIR OWN OPTIONS.
THE DEAL APPARENTLY WHICH
SEEMS TO BE CRYSTALIZING,
IS LEAVING IRAN AS A
THRESHOLD NUCLEAR STATE.
IT WILL KEEP THEM ONE YEAR
AWAY FROM BEING ABLE TO
PRODUCE A NUCLEAR WEAPON.
BUT IF, AS IT SOUNDS LIKE
THE DEAL WILL NOT INCLUDE
STRINGENT EXAMINATIONS OF
MILITARY FACILITIES, AND
WILL LEAVE CERTAIN
FACILITIES OFF-LIMITS TO
INSPECTORS, HOW ARE WE
SUPPOSED TO KNOW IF IT IS
A YEAR AWAY OR LESS THAN A
YEAR AWAY.
AND AN IRANIAN NUCLEAR
THRESHOLD STATE WILL CAUSE
OTHER STATES TO EXAMINE
THEIR NUCLEAR OIONS.
Chris: WHAT COULD
THAT LOOK LIKE?
IT WILL BE A MUCH MORE
DANGEROUS AND VOLATILE
REGION, A REGION THAT IS
ALL RIGHT VOLATILE, IN
TERMS OF BEING SPLIT BY
POWERFUL STATES OPPOSING
ONE ANOTHER INREAS IN
WHICH GOVERNANCE HAS
ESSENTIALLY COLLAPSED.
AND ALSO IN SYRIA, AND
ALSO IN IRAQ IN A
DIFFERENT WAY, AND YEMEN
IN A DIFFERENT WAY -- ALL
OF THOSE EXISTING
CONFLICTS WILL BE, OF
COURSE, EXACERBATED BY THE
PARALLEL PRESENCE OF A
NUCLEAR ARMS RACE AND IT
WILL EXPEDENTIALLY
INCREASE THE DANGERS IN AN
ALREADY DANGEROUS
NEIGHBORHOOD.
Chris: AND ABOUT THE
SANCTIONS RELEASE THAT
SEEMS TIED TO THE
NEGOTIATIONS, IT COULD
RELEASE BILLIONS OF
DOLLARS BACK TO IRAN.
WHAT IMPACT WILL THAT HAVE
ON THE REGION?
IF THIS HAPPENS, IT
WILL BE HUGE.
IT IS $150 BILLION SITTING
THERE IN FROZEN OIL
REVENUE.
THAT COMES BACK ON LINE
IN THE COMING MONTHS, IT
WILL BE AN ENORMOUS SHOT
IN THE ARM FOR THE
IRANIANS, WHO ARE IN
DANGER OF LOOKING A LITTLE
OVERSTRETCHED IN RECENT
MONTHS.
THEY'VE GOT COMMITMENTS IN
SYRIA AND COMMITMENTS IN
IRAQ, AND THEY'RE
COMMITTED TO SUPPORTING
THE HOUTHIS IN YEMEN, AND
THEY'RE COMMITTED TO
HEZBOLLAH IN LEBANON.
AND THEY'RE SUPPORTING
ALSO ISLAMIC JIHAD AND
MAYBE HAMAS.
IT IS A BIG PORTFOLIO OF
SUPPORT AND REQUIRES A LOT
OF MONEY FOR A STATE UNDER
HEAVY SANCTIONS TO COPE
WITH.
IF THE SANCTIONS ARE
LIFTED AND TENS AND
HUNDREDS OF BILLIONS OF
DOLLARS SUDDENLY BECOME
AVAILABLE AGAIN, THE
IRANIANS WILL BE IN A
HAPPY POSITION TO
EXPEDENTIALLY INCREASE THE
SUPPORT TO THEIR VARIOUS
BIEBELEAGUERED FRIENDS AND
ALLIES.
Chris: IF IT COULD
POUR BILLIONS OF DOLLARS
INTO THE CONFLICT AROUND
THE MIDDLE EAST, WHAT
POSSIBLE EXPLANATION IS
THERE FOR A DEAL WITH
IRAN.
AS FAR AS I UNDERSTAND
THE THINKING IS THAT THEY
BELIEVE THAT IRAN IS
WILLING, OR IS IN A
POSITION TO BE FLIPPED, SO
TO SPEAK, FROM AN
ANTI-WESTERN FORCE INTO A
NEUTRAL OR PRO-WESTERN
FORCE.
THERE ARE EVEN SOME -- AND
I'VE READ AN ARTICLE BY
CHRISTOPHER MAYOR, FORMER
AMBASSADOR TO THE UNITED
STATES, WHO ARGUES THAT
IRAN, ONCE IT IS FLIPPED,
ONCE IT HAS GOT ITS DEAL
COULD BECOME AN WESTERN
ALLY IN THE REGION.
THERE IS NO CONTENT TO
THAT BELIEF WHATSOEVER.
THE IRANIANS ARE VERY
SERIOUS ABOUT THEIR
ANTI-AMERICAN STATUS,
WHICH GOES BACK 30 YEARS,
AND VERY SERIOUS ABOUT
THEIR DESIRE TO DESTROY
ISRAEL AND THERE
OPPOSITION TO SUNNIS AND
OTHER PRESENCE IN THE
REGION.
ABSOLUTELY SERIOUS ABOUT
THAT.
AND IF THEY'RE GIVEN
INDUCEMENTS, THEY'LL
HAPPILY TAKE THE
INDUCEMENTS AND FEED THOSE
INTO THE CONTINUED
PROMOTION OF THE ALREADY
EXISTING STRATEGY THEY
HAVE, WHICH IS TO REPLACE
THE UNITED STATES IN THE
GULF AND FURTHER ACROSS
THEEGION.
Chris: IF YOU WERE
TALKING TO SOMEBODY IN THE
UNITED STATES OR SOMEBODY
IN THE WEST, GREAT BRITAIN
OR EUROPE, WH YOU
SAY WHAT DO THEY NEED TO
UNDERSTAND ABOUT WHAT IS
HAPPENING IN THE MIDDLE
EAST?
THEY NEED TO UNDERSTAND
TWO THINGS: FIRST AND MORE
IMPORTANTLY THAT THE
IRANIANS ARE NOT AVAILABLE
TO BE TURNING INTO ALLIES.
AND THAT SUNNI JIHADI
ISLAM REPRESENTS A VERY,
VERY PROFOUND DANGER TO
THE SECURITY OF WESTERN
COUNTRIES THEMSELVES AND
WESTERN POPULATIONS.
GIVEN THAT, WHAT THEY NEED
TO BE DOING IS IDENTIFYING
WHAT ALLIES DO THEY HAVE
IN THESE COLLAPSED STATE
AREAS OF IRAQ AND SYRIA
AND ELSEWHERE.
ONCE THEY IDENTIFY THOSE
ALLIES, BEGINNING TO WORK
WITH THEM TO CREATE A NEW
SECURITY ARCHITECTURE IN
THE REGION.
BECAUSE THERE ARE PLENTY
OF PEOPLE WHO WANT TO BE
FRIENDS WITH THE WESTERN
STATES.
ISRAEL, THE GULF
MONARCHYS, THE JORDANIANS.
IT IS A PRETTY STRONG
TEAM.
BUT THEY FEEL THE WEST IS
FLAILING ABOUT WITH
DANGEROUS IDEAS.
Chris: JONATHAN,
THANK YOU FOR YOUR
EXPERTISE AND ANALYSIS.
NEXT TIME YOU GO TO
BAGHDAD, STAY SAFE.
I'LL DO MY BEST.
THANKS, CHRIS.
Chris: COMING UP, THE
CRISIS INSIDE ISLAM, WHY
MANY MUSLIMS ARE TURNING
AWAY FROM THEIR FAITH.
Chris: WELCOME BACK
TO "THE WATCHMAN."
WHY WOULD A WOMAN LEAVE
HER HOME AND FRIENDS TO
JOIN THE ISLAMIC STATE?
WE HAVE LEARNED THAT A
SHOCKING NUMBER OF WOMEN
HAVE JOINED THE THOUSANDS
OF WESTERNERS HEADED TO
THE MIDDLE EAST.
ERIC STACKELBACK HAS THIS
STORY ON THE WOMEN OF
JIHAD.
Erick: FOR MONTHS
BEFORE SHANNON CONNELLY'S
ARREST, F.B.I. AGENTS MET
WITH HER REPEATEDLY.
THEY WARNED THE
19-YEAR-OLD MUSLIM CONVERT
THAT HER PLAN TO TRAVEL TO
SYRIA AND HELP ISIS WAS
ILLEGAL.
CONNELLY, HOWEVER, HAD
MADE UP HER MIND.
SHE WANTED TO LEAVE HER
HOME TO MARRY AN ISIS
FIGHTER SHE HAD MET
ONLINE.
AGENTS STOPPED HER AT
DENVER'S AIRPORT BEFORE
SHE COULD CARRY OUT HER
PLAN.
YET THERE ARE MANY MORE
LIKE HER.
LAST MONTH THREE TEENAGED
GIRLS, ALSO FROM SUBURBAN
DENVER, WERE DETAINED
WHILE TRYING TO MAKE THEIR
WAY TO SYRIA.
BUT HUNDREDS OF OTHER
YOUNG WOMEN FROM WESTERN
COUNTRIES HAVE MADE IT TO
THE ISLAMIC STATE,
MARRYING ISIS FIGHTERS,
AND EVEN FIGHTING
ALONGSIDE THEM.
I HAVE A HUGE CONCERN
REGARDING THE WOMEN GOING
BACK BECAUSE THAT'S,
AGAIN, A PART OF BUILDING
A NEW SOCIETY.
THAT'S THE MARKETING THAT
IS GOING ON.
AND A LOT OF WOMEN HERE
ARE FINDING THAT AN
ATTRACTIVE OPTION.
Reporter: BOB
FLETCHER IS THE FORMER
SHERIFF IN RAMSEY COUNTY,
IN ST. VINCENT DE PAUL.
ST. PAUL.
AT LEAST FOUR WOMEN FROM
ST. PAUL HAVE TRAVELLED TO
SYRIA.
THEY PROMISE THEM WIVES
WHEN THEY GET THERE.
THEY NEED WOMEN IN THEIR
SOCIETY TO KEEP THEIR
FIGHTERS CONTENT.
IT IS A SCARY THING, BUT
THE WOMEN ARE REALLY BEING
USED IN A VARIETY OF WAYS
ONCE THEY GET THERE.
Eric Erick: IN SOME CASES,
THE WOMEN ACT AS MUCH MORE
THAN JIHADI BRIDES.
A GROUP OF BRITISH WOMEN
LEADS AN ALL WOMEN TROUPE.
THEY ENFORCE ISLAMIC DRESS
CODES AND EVEN REPORTEDLY
N A BROTHEL WHERE THEY
PROVIDE SEX SLAVES TO ISIS
FIGHTERS.
SO FAR MOST OF THE ISIS
WOMEN COME FROM EUROPE.
THE NUMBERS INCLUDE AT
LEAST 50 BRITISH WOMEN, 40
FROM GERMANY, AND SOME 60
FRENCH GIRLS AND YOUNG
WOMEN ALL LEAVING THEIR
HOMES TO JOIN THE I ISLAMIC
STATE.
THE SO-CALLED POSTER GIRL
FOR THIS MOVEMENT ARE A
PAIR OF SYRIAN GIRLS WHO
ARE LIVING IN SYRIA AND
MARRIED TO ISIS FIGHTERS.
THEY ARE REPORTEDLY
PREGNANT AND WANT TO COME
HOME.
I BELIEVE FOR THE
GIRLS, THEY'RE USING THE
ELEMENT OF SURPRISE.
Reporter: THERE IS A
PRECEDENT FOR FEMALE
TERRORISTS.
DOZENS OF MUSLIM WOMEN
FROM CHECHNYA AND DAGESTAN
HAS CARRIED OUT SUICIDE
BOMBERS IN RECENT YEARS.
BUT ISIS IS TAKING THINGS
TO ANOTHER LEVEL BY
ACTIVELY RECRUITING WOMEN
ONLINE.
ISIS PROMISES THEM
HUSBANDS AND A WONDERFUL
NEW LIFE IN THE CALIPHATE,
A PLACE WHERE, IRONICALLY
ENOUGH, WOMEN HAVE NO
RIGHTS OR FREEDOMS.
WHILE ISIS HAS LURED MANY
WOMEN TO ITS CALIPHATE,
THE BRUTALITY OF ISIS HAS
LED MANY OTHER MUSLIMS TO
QUESTION WHAT THEY REALLY
BELIEVE.
Reporter: THE
HEADLINES SAY ISLAM IS
GOING TO BE THE LARGEST
RELIGION IN THE WORLD.
BUT ISLAM IS FACING A
CRISIS.
THE TERRIBLE DEEDS OF ISIS
DONE IN THE NAME OF ALLAH
AND FOLLOWING THE VIOLENT
EXAMPLE OF MUHAMMAD HAVE
HORRIFIED MANY MUSLIMS WHO
ARE NOW QUESTIONING THEIR
FAITH.
MISSIONARIES TO THE
ISLAMIC WORLD SAY MORE
MUSLIMS HAVE CONVERTED TO
CHRISTIANITY SINCE 9/11
THAN DURING THE ENTIRE 14
CENTURIES OF ISLAMIC
HISTORY.
MANY KEEP THEIR
CONVERSIONS A SECRET,
AFRAID FOR THEIR LIVES.
IN LONDON, THIS BRITISH
COLLEGE STUDENT FROM A
PAKISTANI IMMIGRANT FAMILY
LEFT ISLAM AFTER A LENGTHY
STUDY CONVINCED HIM THE
QURAN COULD NOT BE TRUE.
WE HID HIS FACE.
IF SOMEONE LEAVES ISLAM
OR BECOMES AN APOSTATE, HE
IS THROWN OUT OF HIS
FAM.
HIS FRIEND
S WILL REJECT
HIM.
HE WILL BE KILLED OR
PERSECUTED.
A LOT OF MY FRIENDS SAID,
THIS IS THE LAST TIME WE
ARE TALKING TO YOU BECAUSE
YOU DISRESPECTED THE
PROPHET MUHAMMAD.
Reporter: HE HAS NOT
YET BECOME A CHRISTIAN,
BUT HAS STUDIED THE BIBLE
AND SAYS CHRISTIANITY IS
SUPERIOR TO ISLAM.
SOME MUSLIMS BECOME
ATHEISTS, BUT SOME
DISCOVER THE GOD OF LOVE.
IN SWEDEN, THIS PASTOR, AN
IMMIGRANT FROM SYRIA, HAS
BAPTIZED MORE THAN 100
EX-MUSLIMS.
EVERY WEEK -- EVERY
WEEK I MEET ALMOST ONE OR
MORE WHO COME TO ME.
THEY COME TO ME AND THEY
WOULD LIKE TO KNOW ABOUT
CHRISTIANITY, ABOUT THE
BIBLE.
BECAUSE THEY DON'T LIKE TO
CONTINUE TO BE MUSLIM.
Reporter: WHEN IT
COMES TO RELIGION, EUROPE
HAS BEEN CALLED THE NEW
DARK CONTINENT, AND SOME
MUSLIMS FEEL TRAPPED
BETWEEN ATHEISM AND
RADICAL ISLAM, BUT THEY
SEEM HOPE IN CHRISTIANITY.
WHEN BENSIN KI BENSIN CAME WITH HIS
PARENTS, HE REMEMBERS
THINKING IF GERMANY IS A
CHRISTIAN NATION, THEN
CHRISTIANITY IS A BAD
RELIGION.
BUT THEN HE DISCOVERED
REAL CHRISTIANITY AND IS
TODAY AN EVANGELIST
REACHING MUSLIMS AND
NON-MUSLIMS FOR CHRIST.
WHEN THE PEOPLE
UNDERSTAND WHO JESUS IS,
THEY WILL, MORE AND MORE,
LOVE JESUS AND FOLLOW
JESUS.
WHEN THE MUSLIMS
UNDERSTAND MORE AND MORE
WHAT MUHAMMAD IS, WHAT THE
QURAN IS, WHAT THE HISTORY
IS, THEY WILL GO FARTHER
AWAY FROM ISLAM.
ISLAM IS GOING TO
COLLAPSE.
Reporter: BROTHER
RASHID IS THE SON OF AN
MOROCCAN IMAM WHO LIVED
FOR 15 YEARS AS A SECRET
CONVERT TO CHRISTIANITY.
NOW HE HOSTS AN ARABIC
LANGUAGE CHRISTIAN PROGRAM
CALLED "DARING QUESTIONS,"
THAT CHALLENGES MUSLIMS TO
QUESTION THEIR FAITH.
MANY MUSLIMS SAY IF
WHAT ISIS IS DOING IS
ISLAM, I'M LEAVING IT.
SOME ARE BECOMING
ATHEISTS.
THERE IS
A HUGE WAVE OF
ATHEISM IN THE ARAB WORLD
RIGHT NOW.
AND THERE IS ALSO A HUGE
WAVE OF CONVERSION TO
CHRISTIANITY, FOLLOWING
JESUS CHRIST.
I HAVE NEVER SEEN
SOMETHING LIKE THIS.
ISLAM WAS NEVER FACED WITH
THIS CRISIS BEFORE.
Reporter: NASIM SAYS
ISLAM APPEARS STRONG, BUT
IS ONLY FEEDING OFF THE
SPIRITUAL VOID IN MANY
WEAK CHRISTIAN NATIONS.
THE GREATEST POWER OF
ISLAM IS THE WEAKNESS OF
THE CHRISTIANS.
THAT'S WHAT HAPPENED IN
GERMANY.
AND I THINK IN AMERICA AND
ALL OF THE WESTERN
COUNTRIES.
Reporter: EVEN WHILE
IT SEEMS THAT ISLAM IS
POISED TO OVERTAKE THE
WEST, BROTHER RASHID SAYS
CHRISTIANS SHOULD NOT FEAR
ISLAM, A FAITH THAT HE IS
CONVINCED IS SLOWLY DYING.
ISLAM IS NOT GOD'S
INSTRUMENT TO JUDGE THE
WEST.
I THINK PEOPLE ARE AFRAID
BECAUSE OF WHAT THEY SEE
ON THE NEWS, BUT EVEN
VIOLENCE IS JUST A SIGN OF
COLLAPSE.
Reporter: DALE HURD,
CBN NEWS.
Chris: UP NEXT,
MIDDLE EAST CHRISTIANS ARE
SUFFERING THROUGH THEIR
WORST PERSECUTION IN
CENTURIES, AND YET IN THE
MIDST OF THEIR ANGUISH,
THERE IS POWERFUL STORIES
OF FAITH UNDER FIRE.
Chris: WELCOME BACK
TO "THE WATCHMAN."
CHRISTIANS IN THE MIDDLE
EAST ARE SUFFERING THE
WORST PERSECUTION THEY'VE
EXPERIENCED IN CENTURIES.
DESPITE THIS PRESSURE,
AUTHOR TOM DOYLE DOI SAYS
THERE ARE POWERFUL STORIES
OF COURAGE, PERSEVERANCE
AND FAITH.
TOM, IT IS GREAT TO BE
HERE WITH
YOU IN
JERUSALEM.
THANK YOU,
CHRIS.
IT IS AN HONOR.
Chris: YOU HAVE
WRITTEN A NEW BOOK, AND
WHY DID YOU WRITE THE
BOOK?
EVERY TWO OR THREE
YEARS, I FEEL LIKE GOD
BURNS ME TO WRITE
SOMETHING.
I FELT LIKE THIS WHOLE
SPIRITUAL CLIMATE IN THE
MIDDLE EAST IS CHRISTIANS
ARE BEING KILLED, WHETHER
IT IS EGYPT OR IRAQ OR
SYRIA OR IRAN.
BUT I WANTED TO TELL THE
STORIES ABOUT THOSE WHO
WERE LIVING IN THE MIDST
OF THOSE.
THOSE HEBREW 11 TYPES WHO
ARE READY TO SUFFER, READY
TO DIE, AND AS A RESULT OF
IT, GOD IS EXPANDING HIS
CHURCH IN SOME OF THE
WORST PLACES FOR
CHRISTIANS WE WOULD THINK,
BUT HE IS MOVING
POWERFULLY IN PLACES LIKE
SYRIA AND IRAQ AND IRAN.
Chris: WHEN YOU SAY
HEBREWS 11, WHAT DO YOU
MEAN?
THE HEROS OF FAITH THAT
WERE ABLE TO STAND FOR GOD
IN THE MIDST OF GREAT
ADVERSITY.
THERE IS JUST A HALL OF
FAITH THAT IS LISTED IN
HEBREWS 11.
IT SAYS THE WOR WORLD WAS NOT
WORTHY OF THEM.
THEY WERE SO COMMITTED TO
CHRIST, THEY WERE WILLING
TO SUFFER, AND NOTHING
WOULD STOP THEM.
SO I LOOK AT THE BELIEVERS
NOW IN THE MIDST OF
SOMALIA AND IRAQ
AND SYRIA
AND SOME OF THESE PLACES
WE COVER IN THE BOOK, AND
THEY ARE THRIVING IN THIS
CLIMATE OF PERSECUTION.
THEY'RE NOT BACKING DOWN.
Chris: IN MOST OF THE
NEWS RIGHT NOW IS ABOUT
ISIS AND
THE ADVANCE OF
RADICAL ISLA
M
IN SO MANY
PLACES.
WHAT ARE SOME
OF THE
EXAMPLES, SOME OF THE
STORIES YOU TALK ABOUT IN
THE BOOK?
WE WANTED THE BODY OF
CHRIST TO KNOW WE'RE NOT
LOSING.
IF YOU WATCHED THE NEWS,
YOU WOULD FEEL LIKE THE
CHURCH IS GETTING CREAMED
OUT THERE AND EVERYBODY IS
LEAVING.
FAR FROM IT.
SOME OF THE BAPTISTS ARE
SAYING THAT THE
FASTEST-GROWING CHURCH PER
CAPITA NOW IS IN THE
MIDDLE EAST.
THERE IS A GROUP OF
BELIEVERS IN SYRIA.
AND FARID IS THE LEADER
AND THERE ARE 10 OF THEM
AND THEY PLANT CHURCHES IN
THE UNDERGROUND.
IT IS GETTING SO HOT IN
SYRIA, AND THE WAR IS
DRAGGING ON, NO SIGNS OF
LETTING UP, THAT FARID
DECIDED TO OFFER TO ALL OF
THE LEADERS A CHANCE TO
LEAVE THE COUNTRY BECAUSE
THERE MIGHT BE A DAY WHERE
THEY CAN'T GET OUT, AND
THEY'RE YOUNG AND THEY
HAVE FAMILIES.
THEY HAD A PRAYER MEETING
AND HE ASKED THEM TO COME
BACK IN A WEEK, AFTER
PRAYING AND FASTING, IF
THE LORD WANTED THEM TO
STAY IN SYRIA.
AND WE CERTAINLY
UNDERSTAND IF YOU NEED TO
LEAVE, THAT'S FINE.
YOU HAVE FAMILIES AND
KIDS.
SO THEY PRAYED AND FASTED
FOR A WEEK, THE TEAM.
AND FARID WALKED
DOWNSTAIRS INTO THIS
BASEMENT OF THIS HOUSE IN
DAMASCUS, THINKING IN HIS
MIND, I WONDER IF ANYONE
IS EVEN GOING TO BE THERE.
REALLY, WHY WOULD THEY
STAY?
HE OPENED THE DOOR, CHRIS,
AND THERE WEREN'T TWO OR
FIVE OR 10.
THERE WAS ACTUALLY 25
LEADERS THERE.
THE 10 HAD GONE OUT AND
RECRUITED 15 MORE THAT
SAID, WE'RE READY TO STAY,
WE'RE READY TO SUFFER,
WE'RE READY TO DIE HERE IN
SYRIA FOR JESUS AND TO
AND TO SEAL THIS
COMMITMENT, THEY WENT OUT
AND BOUGHT A PLOT OF LAND
SO THEY CAN BURY EACH
OTHER WHEN THEY DIE AS
MARTYRS FOR CHRIST.
SO WHEN WE GET
COMMUNICATIONS FROM THEM,
IT IS SO SOBERING.
THEY'LL TALK ABOUT WHAT
THE LORD IS DOING.
JESUS IS ON THE MOVE.
HE'S WINNING HEARTS.
HE IS SHOWING HIS LOVE IN
SYRIA.
AND THE GRAVEYARD IS STILL
EMPTY.
Chris: WOW!
THAT KIND OF
COMMITMENT -- IT'S NO
WONDER THAT GOD IS
BLESSING THEIR EFFORTS.
Chris: I SEE THIS
BOOK AS SORT OF A
BRIDGE
BETWEEN WHAT IS HAPPENING
TO THE
BELIEVERS HERE IN
THE MIDDLE EAST
AND THEN
BELIEVERS IN THE WEST,
ESPECIALLY THE U.S.Cl
WHAT DOES THEY NEED TO
KNOW, THOSE BELIEVERS THAT0B
ARE WATCHING THIS OR
LISTENING TO THIS IN THE
U.S.?
YOU KNOW, THAT'S A
REALLY GOOD POINT.
I THINK THAT WE MAY NOT BE
CALLED TO SUFFER FOR
CHRIST IN THE WEST, BUT
PAUL SAID, WHEN ONE OF US
SUFFERS, WE ALL SUFFER.
AND JESUS SAID, THEY'RE
GOING TO HATE YOU BECAUSE
THEY HATE ME.
IT IS A WAR ON JESUS.
SO WE PRAY FOR THEM.
WE PRAY FOR THEM DAILY.
O WATCHES AT 8:
8:38 p.m. EVER NIGHT,
AND WHEN IT GOES OFF, WE
PRAY FOR THE BELIEVERS
HERE IN PRISON, IN
PERSECUTION, AND IN
DANGER.
WE WANT TO LET THEM KNOW
WE STAND FOR THEM.
WE HAVEN'T FORGOTTEN THEM.
THEY ARE FAMILY.
WE'RE ALL A PART OF THIS
TOGETHER, AND WE JUST WANT
TO JOIN WITH THEM AND
STAND WITH THEM IN PRAYER
IN THE MIDST OF THE
DIFFICULTY.
Chris: TOM, IT IS
AN
INSPIRING MESSAGE AND A
GREAT BOOK.
THANK YOU FOR SHARING.
THANK YOU SO MUCH,
CHRIS.
IT'S AN HONOR.
Chris: COMING UP, HOW
YOU CAN LEARN MORE ABOUT
ISIS, CHRISTIAN
PERSECUTION, AND THE
MIDDLE EAST.
Chris: WELCOME BACK
TO "THE WATCHMAN."
IT HAS BEEN AN HONOR
FILLING IN FOR ERICK THIS
WEEK.
YOU MAY WANT TO PICK UP A
COPY OF HIS LATEST BOOK
CALLED "ISIS EXPOSED," AND
YOU MAY WANT TO CONSIDER
THIS BOOK BY YOURS TRULY
CALLED "DESTINATION
JERUSALEM, ISIS, CONVERT
OR DIE, AND PREPARING FOR
THE DAYS AHEAD."
BOTH ARE AVAILABLE ON
AMAZON.COM.
AND YOU MAY WANT TO PICK
UP BOTH COPIES TO GET A
GREAT PERSPECTIVE ON ISIS
AND WHAT IS HAPPENING IN
THE MIDDLE EAST.
YOU MAY WANT TO FOLLOW
ERICK ON ERIC HER HER STACK