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The 700 Club - June 26, 2015

The trauma of an abusive childhood affected Audra’s attraction to men – and women. Also, Scott Ross is The 700 Club’s man on the street, and this time he’s asking people about Independence Day. Read Transcript


I LITERALLY WENT FROM

THE COUCH TO A 5K.

Wendy: THIS MOTHER

DOES, IN FACT, WEAR COMBAT

BOOTS.

I'M JUST IN

EXCRUCIATING PAIN.

Wendy: HEAR WHY SHE

RUNS.

MY BODY REMINDED ME WHY

I WASN'T A RUNNER.

Wendy: AND GRITS

THROUGH THE PAIN.

THIS EXACT WORDS WERE,

GET UNCOMFORTABLE.

Wendy: ON TODAY'S

"700 CLUB."

*

Pat: WELL, WELCOME TO

"THE 700 CLUB."

THE THING THAT WE FEARED

HAS COME UPON US.

FIVE SUPREME COURT

JUSTICES HAVE LEGALIZED

SAME-SEX MARRIAGE IN ALL

THE 50 STATES OF THE

UNITED STATES.

IN A DECISION BEING CALLED

THE BIGGEST SINCE ROE VS.

WADE.

IT IS ALREADY SHAPING UP

TO THE MOST CONTROVERSIAL

OF THEIR DECISIONS.

Wendy: CHIEF JUSTICE

JOHN ROBERTS OPPOSED THE

RULING, ARGUING THAT THE

HIGH COURTS SHOULD NOT ACT

LIKE A LEGISLATURE.

PAUL STRAND WAS THERE AT

THE COURT WHEN THE RULING

CAME DOWN.

[APPLAUSE]

Reporter: SOME WERE

ESTATIC OVER THIS WIN,

THEY CHEERED AND CHANTED

AND SANG AS THEY WON THE

RIGHT TO MARRIAGE

NATIONWIDE.

*

I'M SO EXCITED.

EXTREME HAPPINESS.

RELIEF AND JOY.

Reporter: NO MATTER

WHICH SIDE OF THE GAY

MARRIAGE CONTROVERSY

YOU'RE ON, THERE IS NO

GETTING AROUND THE FACT

THAT THIS COURT DECISION

IS MOMENTOUS.

BRIAN BROWN OF THE

NATIONAL ORGANIZATION FOR

MARRIAGE WARN OF DIRE KWON

QENSZ.

CONSEQUENCES.

IF YOU PUT INTO THE LAW

THERE IS NO DIFFERENCE

BETWEEN TWO MEN OR TWO

WOMEN THAN A MAN OR WOMAN,

AND THOSE WHO DON'T AGREE

ARE BIGOTS, IT IS USES THE

LAW TO PUNISH CHURCHES AND

INDIVIDUALS AND BUSINESSES

WHO STAND FOR THE TRUTH.

THIS COURT IS COMING UP

WITH ITS OWN DEFINITION,

AND IT WILL HAVE A

PROFOUND IMPACT ON

RELIGION IN THIS COUNTRY.

Reporter: BAKERS,

FLORISTS, WEDDING

PHOTOGRAPHERS AND SUCH WHO

DON'T WANT TO SERVICE GAY

WEDDINGS, AND SHE WAS

ASKED IF THEY WOULD

CONSIDER A CEASE-FIRE AND

THE FIRM ANSWER WAS NO.

WE WILL CONTINUE TO

MAKE SURE EVERYONE'S

RIGHTS ARE PROTECTED, AND

PEOPLE ACTUALLY DO GET TO

CELEBRATE AND CHOOSE WHO

THEY WANT AROUND THEM WHEN

THEY GET MARRIED.

THEY GET THE CAKE THEY

WANT AND THE FLOWERS THEY

WANT.

RELIGIOURELIGION SHOULD NOT BE

USED TO DISCRIMINATE

AGAINST OTHERS.

President Obama: ALL

OF US WHO WELCOME TODAY'S

NEWS SHOULD BE MINDFUL OF

THAT FACT.

Reporter: AND BROWN

SAID REALLY THE FIGHT HAS

JUST BEGUN.

THIS IS LIKE THE

PASSAGE OF ROE.

THE PRO-LIFE MOVEMENT HAS

GROWN, NOT WITHERED AWAY.

Reporter: THOSE HERE

FOR GAY MARRIAGE SAY

THAT'S IT, THE ISSUE IS

SETTLED.

BUT THOSE ON THE OTHER

SIDE SAY WHAT THE COURT

DID WAS IGNITE YEARS OF

ROE VS. WADE, AND YEARS OF

THIS ISSUE AND STILL

AHEAD.

PAUL STRAND, CBN NEWS, THE

SUPREME COURT.

Pat: LADIES AND

GENTLEMEN, IT HAS

HAPPENED.

A MARRIAGE IS THE

SACRAMENT OF THE CHRISTIAN

CHURCH.

IT IS SOLIDIFIED BY THE

UNION OF A MAN AND A WOMAN

IN ACCORDANCE WITH GOD'S

LAW.

MARRIAGE IS A SACRAMENT OF

THE CHRISTIAN CHURCH.

BUT IT HAS NOW BEEN TAKEN

BY THE SUPREME COURT TO

APPLY TO THOSE WHO ARE NOT

QUALIFIED TO BE HUSBAND

AND WIFE.

WE HAD IN THIS COUNTRY,

PASSED BY THE UNITED

STATES CONGRESS, WHAT WAS

CALLED THE DOMER DEFENSE

OF MARRIAGE ACT, WHICH

DECLARED THAT MARRIAGE WAS

BETWEEN A MAN AND A WOMAN.

AND NOW THE SUPREME COURT,

HAVING NULLIFIED DOMA HAS

EXTENDED THE 14th

AMENDMENT TO SAY THAT IT

APPLIES TO THE RIGHTS OF

HOMOSEXUALS, TO HAVE THE

RIGHT OF MARRIAGE APPLIED

TO THEM.

WENDY?

Wendy: PAT, HOW

SHOULD PEOPLE OF FAITH

FEEL RIGHT NOW?

THIS IS HUGE.

THIS GOES AGAINST

EVERYTHING THAT THE BIBLE

TEACHES.

Pat: WHEN THESE

THINGS WERE BROUGHT UP

BEFORE THE PEOPLE OF THE

UNITED STATES, THEY VOTED

OVERWHELMING TO PROTECT

MARRIAGE AS AN INSTITUTION

BETWEEN A MAN AND A WOMAN.

BUT THE GAY AGENDA HAS

JUST BEEN ROLLING LIKE A

STEAMROLLER ACROSS THIS

LAND.

HOW SHOULD THEY FEEL?

THE QUESTION IS: HOW

THREATENED SHOULD THEY

FEEL.

WE'VE HAD THE CASE OF ONE

BAKER WHO WAS THREATENED

WITH A FINE BECAUSE HE

WOULDN'T BAKE A WEDDING

CAKE FOR A HOMOSEXUAL

WEDDING.

THE GAYS HAVE BEEN WILLING

TO DESTROY ANY INSTITUTION

OF OUR SOCIETY THAT GOT IN

THEIR WAY.

AND THIS IS ONE

INSTITUTION.

SO WHAT ARE CHRISTIANS

SUPPOSED TO FEEL?

WELL, THEY FEEL, THAT

ACCORDING TO THE BIBLE,

HOMOSEXUALITY IS AN

ABOMINATION, AND IT IS A

SIN.

AND YET WE'RE BEING TOLD

NOW IT IS A CONSTITUTIONAL

RIGHT FOR PEOPLE WHO ENTER

INTO SUCH A RELATIONSHIP.

HOW SHOULD THEY FEEL?

I THINK THEY SHOULD FEEL

THAT THEY'RE LOSING A

VITAL PART OF THEIR

FREEDOM.

AND I THINK THAT'S WHAT

SOME OF THE JUSTICES WERE

SAYING IN THIS DESCENT.

Wendy: IT WILL BE

INTERESTING TO SEE WHAT

HAPPENS NOW IN THE

CHURCHES, IF PASTORS WILL

BE FORCED TO MARRY GAY

COUPLES, OR AT LEAST RIGHT

NOW THAT'S NOT THE CASE.

Pat: THE NEXT PHASE,

YOU KNOW -- I DON'T

UNDERSTAND WHAT HAPPENED

TO KENNEDY.

HE WAS A STRONG

CONSERVATIVE.

HE WAS APPOINTED BY RONALD

REAGAN, AND THOUGHT OF AS

A GREAT PICK ON THE

SUPREME COURT.

AND YET SOMEHOW HE HAS

JUST IDEALIZED THE

HOMOSEXUAL RELATIONSHIP.

HE HAS MADE IT IS INTO

SOME MYSTICAL UNION OF

SPIRITUAL BEINGS.

IT IS UNBELIEVABLE, SOME

OF THE WRITINGS HE HAS

HAD.

WHAT HAPPENS NEXT?

POLYGAMY.

IF HOMOSEXUALITY IS RIGHT

FOR MARRIAGE, IT MEANS WE

CAN MARRY PEOPLE ENGAGED

IN POLYGAMY.

WHY NOT?

IT IS A LOVE RELATIONSHIP,

WHY NOT?

AND SO THE LAWS WOULD HAVE

TO BE STRUCK DOWN.

WHAT ABOUT SO-CALLED POLY

AMORI?

YES.

YOU GO DOWN THE LINE.

AT WHAT POINT ARE THESE

FUNDAMENTAL RIGHTS GOING

TO BE TAKEN AWAY.

A PERSON SHOULD NOT BE

DEPRIVED OF LIFE, LIBERTY,

OR PROPERTY WITHOUT DUE

PROCESS OF LAW.

THAT'S WHAT IT SAYS.

SO IT'S A PROHIBITION

AGAINST THE GOVERNMENT

TAKING SOMETHING AWAY FROM

YOU, UNLESS YOU HAVE A

APPROPRIATE LEGAL REMEDY.

THIS IS GIVING SOMETHING

THAT BELONGED TO THE

CHURCH -- TAKING IT AWAY

FROM THE CHURCH AND GIVING

IT TO HOMOSEXUALS.

Wendy: OF COURSE, THE

LIBERALS ARE SAYING THIS

IS A CIVIL RIGHTS ISSUE,

AND GAY COUPLES WILL BE

ABLE TO GET A LOT MORE

BENEFITS.

Pat: BUT THEY COULD

HAVE GOTTEN IT JUST AS

EASILY WITH CIVIL UNIONS.

BUT MARRIAGE IS A

SUCCESSMENSACRAMENT OF THE CHURCH.

ONCE AGAIN, THE CHURCH HAS

BEEN INVADED BY THE STATE.

DON'T TALK ABOUT

SEPARATION OF CHURCH AND

STATE.

STATE HAS ENTERED INTO THE

REALM OF THE CHURCH

REPEATEDLY, AND THE CHURCH

IS BASICALLY FIGHTING FOR

ITS LIFE.

WELL, EFREM GRAHAM HAS

MORE OF OUR TOP STORIES

FROM THE CBN NEWS ROOM.

HERE IS EFREM.

Efrem: PAT, A

TERRORIST ATTACKED A CROWD

OF TOURISTS ON A BEACH IN

TUNISIA.

IT HAPPENED NEAR TWO

HOTELS IN THE

MEDITERRANEAN RESORT CITY

OF SOUSSE.

THE GUNMAN HIT A RIFLE IN

A BEACH UMBRELLA.

AND HE PULLED IT OUT,

SHOOTING THE BEACH-GOERS,

MURDERING 37 PEOPLE AND

WOUNDING 36 OTHERS.

MUSLIMS LIKELY WOULD NOT

BE AT THE BEACH LOCATION

DURING THEIR HOLY MONTH OF

RAMADAN.

> ONE PERSON WAS

BEHEADED AND SEVERAL

OTHERS WOUNDED IN AN

ISLAMIC TERRORIST ATTACK

ON A GAS FACTORY IN

SOUTHEASTERN FRANCE.

BANNERS WITH ARABIC

WRITING WERE FOUND NEAR

THE VICTIMS' BODY.

IT HAPPENED SOUTHEAST OF

THE CITY OF LEONE.

A MAN DROVE A CAR INTO THE

FACTORY ENTRANCE, TOUCHING

OFF AN EXPLOSION.

FRENCH AUTHORITIES SAY THE

MAIN ATTACKER HAS BEEN

CAUGHT, ALONG WITH SEVERAL

OTHER SUSPECTS.

THE GAS FACTORY IS OWNED

BY AN AMERICAN COMPANY.

THE OBAMA

ADMINISTRATION OFFICIALS

ARE BLAMING FEDERAL

GOVERNMENT COMPUTERS.D

NEW DETAILS ARE COMING OUT

ABOUT HOW THE THEFT HAS

SERIOUSLY DAMAGED NATIONAL

SECURITY.

Reporter: IT IS BEING

CALLED THE WORST HACK OF

THE U.S. GOVERNMENT IN

HISTORY.

HACKERS LOOTED FEDERAL

GOVERNMENT PERSONNELNT

RECORDS AFFECTING AS MANYANY

AS 32 MILLION CURRENT AND AS

FORMER EMPLOYEES.

AFTER A GRILLING THIS WEEK

ON CAPITOL HILL OF

OFFICIALS FROM THE OFFICE

OF PERSONNEL MANAGEMENT,

ONE LAW MAKER CALLED THE

LACK OF SECURITY AT O.B.

MM. JAW-DROPPING.

1963, I WASN'T EVEN A

BORN, ANDGE THAT'S THE AGE

OF THE EQUIPMENT WE'REDISA

USING.

Reporter: THE HACK

HAS BEEN A DISASTER FORHITE

AMERICAN

COUNTER-INTELLIGENCE.

WHEN THE WHITE HOUSE E

ADMITTED O.P.M. HAD BEEN

ATTACKED IN JUNE, IT SAIDRSON

THE CHINESE HACKERS STOLE

THE INFORMATION OF UP TO

FOUR MILLION FORMER AND

CURRENT EMPLOYEES.

HACKERS MADE OFF WITH

MILLIONS OF SECURITY

CLEARANCE BACKGROUND CHECK

FILES.

SO-CALLED ADJUDICATION

INFORMATION, SENSITIVES

FACTS COLLECTED BY U.S.

INVESTIGATORS ABOUT

GOVERNMENTNV EMPLOYEES AND

CONTRACTORS.RS.

DEEPLY PERSONAL

INFORMATION, SUCH AS

MARITAL PROBLEMS, DRUG AND

ALCOHOL, OR GAMBLING

PROBLEMS.

EVEN INFORMATION ABOUT A

PERSON'S SEX LIFE.

THAT MEANS CHINA ORHIN

ANOTHER FOREIGN ENTITY NOW

HAS THE POWERS TO FINDHE

U.S. OFFICIALS WHO HAVE

ACCESS TO CLASSIFIED C

DOCUMENTS AND BLACKMAIL

THEM.EM.

A SOURCE TOLD THE DAILY

BEAST WEBSITE THIS IS

WORSE THAN THE LEAKS BYRS

EDWARD SNOWDEN.

SO I WANT TO UNDERSTAND

WHY O.P.M. ISN'T USING

ENCRYPTION.

I WISH THAT OURS --

SYSTEMS -- ALL OF OUR

SYSTEMS WERE ABLE TO BE

FITTED WITH THE ENCRYPTION

TOOLS, BUT WE HAVE AN

OLDER LEGACY SYSTEM.

Reporter: KATHRYN

ARCHETLETTA SAYSER

ENCRYPTION WOULD NOT HAVET IS

PREVENTED THE INCIDENT.

IF THERE IS ANYONE TO

BLAME,THE PERPETRATORS.

THEY'RE CONCENTRATED, VERY

WELL-FUNDED, FOCUSED ANDOME

AGGRESSIVE.

Reporter:S SOME

REPUBLICANS ARE SAYING SHE

CANNOT BE TRUSTED TO FIX

THIS PROBLEM AND NEEDS TO

BE REPLACED.ED

DALES HURD, CBN NEWS.

Efrem: PAT, THIS ISIS

JUST DOWNRIGHT

UNBELIEVABLE.

Pat: IT ISVABL

UNBELIEVABLE.

LOOK, IN THE PRIVATE

SECTOR, THAT LADY WOULD

HAVE BEEN FIRED THE MINUTEIS

THIS THING HAPPENED.

AND THERE WOULD BE

ACCOUNTABILITY ALL UP AND

DOWN THE LINE.

YOU WON'T FIND ONE PERSON

WHO WILL LOSE THEIR JOB,

AND THEY'LL GO ON LIKE

THIS BECAUSE IT IS

INEFFICIENT.

APPARENTLY THE SYSTEM WEND

USE RECOGNIZES PREVIOUS

HACKS.

IF THERE HAD BEEN ONE,

THEN THIS SYSTEM WE USE

CAN SPOT IT.

BUT IF SOMEBODY COMES WITH

A NOVEL WAY OF HACKINGTE

YOUR SYSTEM, OUR SOFTWARE I

CAN'T HANDLE IT.

IT IS JUST THAT WAY.

IT IS TERRIBLE.

THE FACT TO THINK WHAT THE

CHINESE COULD DO WITH THAT

INFORMATION.

THEY'LL COMPROMISE PEOPLE,

THEIR SEX LIVES, THEY'RE

HAVING AFFAIRS, AND

THEY'LL HAVE IT ALL

PUBLIC.

THEYY' CAN COME OUT AND IT

BRING IT OUT AGAINST THEM.

THEY CAN GO TO THEM AND

SAY, WE KNOW WHAT YOUR ARE

CHILDREN ARE DOING AND WE

KNOW WHAT YOU'VE DONE.

THEREFORE WE NEED THIS

CONFIDENTIAL INFORMATION

OR ELSE WE'RE GOING PUBLIC

AND YOU'LL BE SHAMED AND

DESTROYED.

THIS IS AN AWFUL THING.

YOU TURN

AROUND, IT IS ONEMORE AREA ONE MORE

AREA OF INCOMPETENCE.

THE VETERANS

ADMINISTRATION,

INCOMPETENT.

THE I.R.S., INCOMPETENT.

ONE THING AFTER ANOTHER,

AND THERE IS NOTHING BEING

DONE ABOUT IT.

THERE IS NOBODY FIRED.

PEOPLE ARE BEING KEPT ON

THEIR JOBS.

AND YOU'VE GOT THIS THINGS

ABOUT LO LOIS LERNER, AND

HERE THE I.R.S. IS

COVERING THAT UP.

YOU FEEL SO HOPELESS.

AND YOU'RE, LIKE, WHAT CAN

I DO WITH THIS MONSTER

THAT IS SUCKING SO MUCH

MONEY OUT OF THE ECONOMY,

AND YET THEY'RE

INCOMPETENT.

EFREM?

Efrem: A NEW

REVELATION IN THE HILLARY

CLINTON E-MAIL SCANDAL.

15 WORK-RELATED E-MAILS

SENT AND RECEIVED BY

CLINTON ARE MISSING FROM

THEIR RECORDS.

THE E-MAILS ALL SURFACED

DURING AN INVESTIGATION ON

BENGHAZI BY THE HOUSE OF

REPRESENTATIVES.

ALL OF THE E-MAILS

PRE-DATE THE

SEPTEMBER 2012 TERROR

ATTACK ON THE U.S. CON

LATE ICONSULATE IN BENGHAZI.

THE E-MAILS CONFIRM

CLINTON DID NOT PROVIDE

ALL W ALLOW

EXPERTS TO TESTIFY THAT

CHANGE IS POSSIBLE FOR

MANY PEOPLE.

TWO CHURCHES HAVE BEEN

BURNED, ONE IN NORTH

CAROLINA, AND ONE IN

GEORGIA.

PATTERNS FOUND IN THE

RUINS OF THE BAPTIST

CHURCH IN CHARLOTTE

SUGGEST ARSON, BUT THEY

AREN'T CALLING THEM A HATE

CRIME.

THE FIRE CAUSED ABOUT

$250,000 IN DAMAGE, BUT

THE SANCTUARY IS

UNTOUCHED.

THE PASTOR IS SPEAKING OUT

SAYING ASHES CAN BE AN

ENVIRONMENT FOR HEALING.

THESE BUILDINGS CAN BE

REPAIRED.

SO IT IS AN OPPORTUNITY

FOR HEARTS TO BE REPAIRED

AS WELL.

WE REALLY WANT IT COVERED

IN LOVE.

WE ABSOLUTELY DON'T HAVE

ANY MALAISE AGAINST ANYONE

ELSE.

Efrem: MEANWHILE,

THERE IS A $10,000 REWARD

ON THE ARSON ATTACK IN

MAKMACON FLORIDA.

BURGLARS HAVE HIT THE

CHURCH TWICE IN THE PAST

YEAR, AND THE PASTOR

BELIEVES THE CRIMES COULD

BE CONNECTED.

> CHRISTIANS IN CUBA

RECEIVE MORE THAN 83,000

BIBLES EARLIER THIS MONTH.

THE BIBLES, SENT BY THE

INTERNATIONAL MISSIONS

BOARD, COME AT Añ

DONATIONS WHICH HAVE HAD A

HARD TIME KEEPING UP WITH

THE GROWING NUMBER OF

BELIEVERS IN THE PAST FEW

YEARS.

PAT, THAT'S KIND OF A GOOD

PROBLEM TO HAVE.

Pat: THAT IS GREAT

NEWS.

I UNDERSTAND THERE IS A

TREMENDOUS RELIGIOUS

REVIVAL GOING ON IN CUBA.

AND THAT IS ALSO GOOD

NEWS.

Wendy: THANKS, PAT.

UP NEXT, A NEW CHARGE TO

MILLENNIAL CHRISTIANS.

I DON'T THINK GOD HAS

CALLED US TO CHANGE THE

WORLD.

I THINK GOD HAS CALLED US

TO LOVE. EMBRACING THE

ORDINARY, AFTER THIS.

Pat: WE'RE DELIGHTED

TO HAVE YOU WITH US.

THIS IS "THE 700 CLUB."

WENDY GRIFFITH IS WITH ME.

AND WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A

WONDERFUL TIME.

AND WE'RE DOING IT.

LIVE RADICALLY FOR CHRIST.

THAT SOUNDS LIKE A GOOD

MESSAGE, AS CHRISTIANS

WERE SUPPOSED TO CHANGE

THE WORLD.

BUT WHAT HAPPENS WHEN THE

GOSPEL GETS TWISTED INTO A

HIGH PRESSURE FORM OF

LEGALISM?

OUR REPORTER, HEATHER

SELLS, INDICATES THAT SOME

YOUNG CHRISTIANS ARE

GETTING BURNED OUT BY THIS

TREND IN CHRISTIAN

CULTURE.

FOR ME IT ALL STARTED

WITH THE QUESTION, YOU

KNOW, AM I TAKING THE

WORDS OF JESUS SERIOUSLY?

Heather: JONATHAN

HOLLINGSWORTH ANSWERED

THAT QUESTION IN A RADICAL

WAY AS A TEENAGER.

HE BEGAN TO WORK WITH THE

HOMELESS, AND THEN GAVE

AWAY HIS POSSESSIONS AND

FINALLY LEFT COLLEGE TO

PURSUE MISSIONS IN AFRICA.

I WAS TRYING TO PROVE

TO GOD I WAS REALLY

DEDICATED TO HIM.

AND THAT, TO ME, IS SORT

OF WHERE THE LEGALISM

CREPT IN.

BECAUSE TO ME, LEGALISM IS

SORT OF TRYING TO MEASURE

YOUR DEVOTION TO GOD

THROUGH YOUR OUTWARD

BEHAVIOR.

Heather: THIS

PRESSURE TO BE RADICAL IN

ORDER TO BE A GOOD

CHRISTIAN IS BEING

DESCRIBED AS THE NEW

LEGALISM.

IT IS MOST OFTEN FELT BY

YOUNG PEOPLE WHO ARE

LOOKING TO DO SOMETHING

EXTRAORDINARY WITH THEIR

LIVES.

THIS IS A PROBLEM.

THAT WE HAVE GOD'S PEOPLE,

HIS CHILDREN, HIS YOUNG

ADULTS, WHO ARE BURDENED

ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT THEIR

LIVES ARE GOOD ENOUGH FOR

HIM, EXTRAORDINARY ENOUGH

FOR HIM.

Heather: DR. ANTHONY

BRADLEY TEACHES RELIGIOUS

STUDIES AT THE KINGS

COLLEGE IN NEW YORK CITY.

HE IDENTIFIED THE TREND

AFTER NUMEROUS

CONVERSATIONS WITH THE

YOUTH ABOUT THE PRESSURE.

THERE IS A HUGE

MOVEMENT FOR THIS

GENERATION TO MAKE A

DIFFERENCE, TO HAVE AN

IMPACT.

I THINK IT HAS NATURALLY

SEEPED INTO THE CHRISTIAN

WORLD BECAUSE THAT IS JUST

THE CONCEPT YOU'RE

HEARING.

YOU'RE HEARING PEOPLE

STARTING NON-PROFITS AT

16.

I THINK MY BIGGEST FEAR

IS ENDING UP AT AN AVERAGE

JOB, DURING ORDINARY

STUFF.

GROWING UP, I WAS IN AN

EVANGELICAL CULTURE THAT

SAID, YOU'RE GOING TO DO

BIG THINGS FOR GOD.

YOU'RE GOING TO CHANGE THE

WORLD.

YOU HAVE SO MUCH

POTENTIAL.

AND I GOT THIS FROM

LEADERS, FROM MINISTRY

CAMPS IN THE SUMMER, FROM

MY CHURCH.

Heather: BRADLEY SAYS

CHRISTIAN LEADERS HAVE

INADVERTENTLY ENCOURAGED

THE RADICAL MESSAGE BY

CALLING ON YOUNG PEOPLE TO

MAKE A DIFFERENCE AND

CHANGE THE WORLD.

GROWING DISDAIN FOR

AMERICAN SUBURBS IN FAVOR

OF THE INNER CITY HAS ALSO

CONTRIBUTED, AS HAS THE

MISSIONARY CHURCH

MOVEMENT, WHICH ENCOURAGES

PEOPLE TO BE MISSIONARIES

IN THEIR OWN COMMUNITY.

AND THERE IS ALSO THIS

WEIRD PRESSURE INTERNALLY,

BECAUSE OF OUR CULTURE,

THAT I'VE GOT TO BE

AWESOME.

I'VE GOT TO BE AN AMAZING

PERSON.

IT IS RELATED TO THIS

GENERATION'S SORT OF

GENERAL NARCISSISM, THAT

UNLESS MY LIFE IS REALLY,

REALLY AWESOME AND COOL

AND NOTEWORTHY, THAT MY

LIFE MEANS NOTHING.

Heather: JONATHAN

HOLLINGSWORTH DECIDED TO

WRITE A BOOK WITH HIS MOM

ABOUT HOW HE BURNED OUT IN

AFRICA TRYING TO LIVE

RADICALLY.

THEY SAY THE RESPONSE HAS

BEEN OVERWHELMING.

WE REALIZED THAT HIS

STORY WAS THE CREST OF THE

WAVE THAT WAS ABOUT TO

BREAK.

BECAUSE IF YOU LOOK AT THE

RADICAL LITERATURE, IT

TALKS ABOUT SELLING.

IF THEY'VE SOLD MILLIONS

OF COPIES, THAT MEANS

THERE IS HUNDREDS, IF NOT

THOUSANDS, OF YOUNG PEOPLE

TRYING TO FOLLOW THAT

EXAMPLE.

Heather: AND

"RUN-AWAY RADICAL" IS NOT

THE ONLY BOOK TO SOUND THE

ALARM.

IT IS JOINED BY "RADICALLY

NORMAL."

WRITTEN BY THIS PASTOR TO

ADDRESS THE PROBLEM HE SAW

IN THE PEWS.

SO MANY CHRISTIANS FEEL

THIS ALWAYS TRYING TO

PLEASE GOD.

Heather: KELLY HOPES

CHRISTIANS WILL BE

MOTIVATED BY JOY, NOT

GUILT OR SHAME.

BRADLEY WOULD LIKE CHURCH

LEADERS TO GIVE YOUNG

PEOPLE TO PURSUE GOD'S

CALLING, WHETHER OR NOT IT

FITS PRECONCEIVED IDEAS.

IT HAS HELPED JOSH CHANG

TO ACCEPT RECENT FAILINGS

DURING AN OVERLOAD

SEMESTER.

I FELT LIKE GOD SAID,

JOSH, YOU CAN'T DO THAT.

YOU HAVE LIMITATIONS.

YOU'RE HUMAN.

WHAT YOU PERCEIVE TO BE

ORDINARY, WHAT YOU

PERCEIVE TO BE DULL, I CAN

USE FOR MY KINGDOM.

Heather: STUDENT

VINCENT RENDONDO RESPONDED

WITH A THESIS ON WHY HE

THINKS THE CALL TO CHANGE

THE WORLD IS POOR ADVICE.

I DON'T THINK GOD

CALLED US TO CHANGE THE

WORLD.

I THINK GOD CALLED US TO

LOVE.

Heather: AND FOR

JONATHAN, HE HOPES HIS

NEXT STEP WILL BE DRIVEN

NOT BY GUILTY, BUT BY

GRACE.

I DO FEEL THAT THE

PLACE I'M AT NOW, IF I DO

DECIDE TO GO OVERSEAS

AGAIN, IT WILL BE BECAUSE

I WANT TO.

Heather: FOR NOW HE

IS MORE OPEN TO ORDINARY

WAYS OF LIVING OUT JESUS'

CALLING, AND EXPERIENCING

HOW HIS YOLK IS EASY, HIS

BURDEN IS LIGHT.

HEATHER SELLS, CBN NEWS.

Pat: I WAS IN LIVING

IN NEW YORK WHEN I WAS IN

SEMINARY.

AND WHEN I GOD THROUGH,

SOMEBODY SAID, IF JESUS

WAS HERE, HE WOULD BE

GOING INTO THE SLUMS TO

HFTD TMINISTER TO PEOPLE.

AND I SAID, OH, BOY,

THAT'S WHAT I'VE GOT TO

DO.

Wendy: YEAH.

Pat: SO I WOUND UP

TAKING MY FAMILY -- I HAD

A WIFE AND THREE LITTLE

CHILDREN, AND I MAY ADD

THREE LITTLE REDHEAD,

BLUE-EYED CHILDREN.

AND WE WENT INTO AN ALL

BLACK SLUM.

AND WE LIVED IN AN

INTERRACIAL COMMUNE.

I MEAN, IT WAS WILD.

NEXT DOOR TO US WAS A

FORMER HOUSE OF ILL FAME.

THE MADAM HAD BEEN

DELIVERED AND SHE WAS

LIVING OVER WITH US.

IT WAS A CRAZY MESS.

Wendy: AND YOU SOLD

EVERYTHING?

Pat: YEAH.

THAT'S THIS WHOLE RADICAL

STUFF.

I GAVE ALL OF THE MONEY

AWAY, AND COME FOLLOW ME.

THE WHOLE THING.

Wendy: IT WAS A GREAT

EXPERIENCE.

YOU DON'T REGRET ANY OF

THAT?

Pat: NOT A BIT IN THE

WORLD.

BUT I ALSO LEARNED THAT

GOD HAD SOMETHING ELSE.

HE SAID, ARE YOU WILLING

TO GIVE IT ALL UP?

AND I SAID, SURE.

I'VE GOT TO DO THAT.

AND THE LORD HAS HEAPED IT

BACK ON SO MANY TIMES, I

CAN'T DESCRIBE IT.

BUT I WAS IN A COMMUNE

BEFORE COMMUNES WERE COOL.

IT WAS REALLY CRAZY.

Wendy: I CAN RELATE

TO THESE KIDS WANTING TO

DO SOMETHING GREAT.

WE ALL LOVE MOUNTAINTOP

EXPERIENCES.

BUT SO OFTEN I HEAR THE

LORD SAY, FOLLOW ME.

FOLLOW ME.

AND I THINK THAT'S WHAT

THESE KIDS ARE FINDING

OUT.

Pat: WHAT HE HAS IS

SO GREAT.

BUT WE DON'T QUITE KNOW

WHAT TO DO.

I THINK IT IS THE

DEDICATION.

THE LORD SAYS, SELL WHAT

YOU HAVE AND COME FOLLOW

ME.

COME FOLLOW ME.

AND SO THESE KIDS WHO WANT

TO FOLLOW THE LORD, IT'S

OKAY.

BUT GOD WILL SHOW THEM

AFTER A WHILE, I'VE GOT

SOMETHING ELSE FOR YOU.

I KNOW WHAT IT WAS LIKE.

Wendy: IT'S THE

JOURNEY, RIGHT?

IT'S THE JOURNEY.

Pat: I SOLD

EVERYTHING I HAD, TOOK A

LITTLE BIT OF MONEY AND

GAVE THE MONEY TO THE POOR

PEOPLE.

WENT TO LIVE IN A COMMUNE

WITH MY WIFE AND KIDS.

MY WIFE AND I LIVED IN ONE

AND A HALF BEDROOMS WITH

FIVE OF US.

Wendy: FIVE OF YOU?

Pat: YEAH.

IT WAS CRAZY.

THE WHOLE THING WAS CRAZY.

Wendy: WELL, SHOUT IT

FROM THE HOUSE TOPS, YOUR

BOOK HAS ALL OF THE JUICY

DETAILS.

IF YOU WANT TO KNOW

EVERYTHING THAT HAPPENED

TO PAT DURING THOSE TIMES,

"SHOUT IT FROM THE HOUSE

TOP."

Pat: THERE IS NOTHING

WRONG WITH THAT.

BUT KIDS HAVE GOT TO

UNDERSTAND THAT THEY DON'T

HAVE TO -- SOONER OR LATER

GOD WILL LEAD YOU OUT OF

THAT STUFF.

THE QUESTION IS: ARE YOU

WILLING?

ARE YOU WILLING TO FOLLOW

ME?

AND THE LORD SAYS, PICK UP

YOUR CROSS DAILY AND COME

FOLLOW ME.

WE DID IT.

Wendy: AND HERE WE

ARE.

Pat: AND HERE I AM

SITTING ON A TELEVISION

SET TALKING ABOUT JESUS TO

MILLIONS OF PEOPLE.

WENDY?

Wendy: AMAZING STORY.

> COMING UP, A MOM WHO

IS TRYING TO FILL SOME

AWFULLY BIG SHOES, AND IS

GETTING A FEW BLISTERS

ALONG THE WAY.

I THOUGHT, YOU KNOW

WHAT?

THAT'S WHAT I'M GOING TO

DO.

THE BOOTS WILL BECOME MY

SOLIDARITY WITH MY SON.

WE GOT AT THE STARTING

LINE AND WE TOOK OFF.

Wendy: HEAR HOW THIS

MILITARY MOM IS HONORING

THE FALLEN DURING THE

"IRON WE COME BACK.

Pat: WELL, IF YOU

HAVEN'T NOTICED IT, THE

SCORCHING TEMPERATURES

OVER THE LAST FEW DAYS,

SUMMER IS HERE.

AND IN ONE WEEK AMERICANS

WILL BREAK OUT THE

BARBECUES AND THE

FIREWORKS TO CELEBRATE THE

FOURTH OF JULY.

HOW MANY PEOPLE ACTUALLY

KNOW ABOUT OUR NATION'S

INDEPENDENCE DAY?

SO WE WENT OUT TO FIND

OUT.

SCOTT ROSS HIT THE

STREETS.

Reporter: ANOTHER

HOLIDAY COMING UP THAT THE

WHOLE NATION IS GOING TO

CELEBRATE IT.

MEMORIAL DAY.

THAT HAPPENED IN MAY.

WHAT'S TODAY?

FATHER'S DAY.

I DON'T KNOW.

FOURTH OF JULY.

MY BIRTHDAY.

Reporter: WE'VE GOT

IT ALL AT ONE TIME.

MY BIRTHDAY IS IN THREE

DAYS.

Reporter: OH, HAPPY

BIRTHDAY.

FOURTH OF JULY.

Reporter: WHAT'S IT

BASED ON?

OUR NATION'S FREEDOM.

WE SIGNED THE

DECLARATION OF

INDEPENDENCE.

Reporter: DO YOU

REMEMBER WHAT YEAR THAT

WAS?

1776.

Reporter: WHAT DOES

THAT MEAN FOR YOU?

A BIG CELEBRATION WITH

FAMILY AND FRIENDS AND

CELEBRATING OUR

INDEPENDENCE.

Reporter: DO YOU

THINK THIS COUNTRY IS

PLEDGING ALLEGIANCE TO

AMERICA BASED ON THE

PREMISE IT WAS A COUNTRY

THAT GOD ESTABLISHED?

I THINK IT DEPENDS ON

THE PERSON, BUT PROBABLY

AS A NATION, OVERALL,

PROBABLY NOT.

A LOT OF PEOPLE IN

THEIR OWN INDIVIDUAL WAY,

MAYBE, BUT AS A NATION, I

THINK WE'VE GOTTEN AWAY

FROM THAT A LITTLE BIT.

Reporter: YEAH, A

LITTLE BIT.

A LOT OF BIT.

Reporter: WHAT ARE WE

COMMEMORATING?

INDEPENDENCE FROM,

WELL, BRITAIN, AND THE

COUNTIES BECOMING

INDEPENDENT.

ESPECIALLY THIS AREA.

JUST FREEDOM FROM -- I

DON'T KNOW.

JUST FREEDOM IN GENERAL.

Reporter: WHAT DOES

THE FOURTH OF JULY

COMMEMORATE?

INDEPENDENCE DAY.

Reporter:

INDEPENDENCE FROM?

BRITAIN.

Reporter: YOU STAYED

AWAKE IN HISTORY CLASS.

A LITTLE BIT.

Pat: WE HAVE A

DECLARATION OF

INDEPENDENCE.

AND JOHN ADAMS, WHO HELPED

DRAFT SOME OF THOSE EARLY

DOCUMENTS, SAID THIS WILL

BE A DAY WHEN AMERICANS

WILL HAVE PARADES AND

THEY'LL HAVE FIREWORKS AND

THEY'LL HAVE CELEBRATIONS

AND THEY'LL HAVE SPEECHES.

THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT WE

HAVE.

IT WASN'T CONSIDERED A

RELIGIOUS HOLIDAY.

IT WAS A HOLIDAY -- I

REMEMBER I WAS IN FRANCE,

AND THEY HAVE BASTILLE DAY

OVER THERE.

AND WE THE FOURTH OF JULY.

Wendy: IT IS A

BELOVED AMERICAN

TRADITION, FOR SURE.

Pat: IT IS.

BUT WE DECLARED OUR

INDEPENDENCE FROM GREAT

BRITAIN.

Wendy: AND NOW

THEY'RE ONE OF OUR BEST

FRIENDS.

Pat: OF COURSE.

Wendy: YOU'VE HEARD

THE EXPRESSION "WALK A

MILE IN THEIR SHOES."

WELL, WHEN IT COMES TO

SALUTING THE MEN AND WOMEN

OF OUR ARMED FORCES, AMY

COTTA DOES MORE THAN THAT.

SHE HAS RUN THOUSANDS OF

MILES, PLUS SWAM AND

BIKED, ALL WHILE WEARING

HER COMBAT BOOTS.

TAKE A LOOK.

TYLER -- I ALWAYS KIND

OF KNEW HE WAS GOING TO GO

INTO THE MILITARY.

BUT ONE DAY HIS SENIOR

YEAR, HE CAME IN THE HOUSE

AND HE SAID, MOM, I'M

GOING TO JOIN THE MARINES.

I WANT YOU TO GO DOWN TO

THE RECRUITER'S OFFICE AND

SIGN ME UP.

HE WAS 17 AT THE TIME.

HE VOLUNTEERED TO GO

EARLY.

THERE WAS NO TIME TO

PROCESS BECAUSE NOW YOU'RE

NOT GOING TO SEE OR TALK

TO YOUR CHILD FOR 12 TO 13

WEEKS.

I FELTDEPRESSION

COMING ON, BUT IT REALLY

DIDN'T HIT UNTIL HE LEFT.

I REMEMBER TELLING MY

HUSBAND, I CAN'T LIVE LIKE

THIS.

I CAN'T WALK AROUND BEING

THIS WORRIED AND THIS

DEPRESSED.

I MAY HAVE TO GO GET HELP.

I REMEMBER THAT MY BOOTS

THAT I HAD GOTTEN FROM THE

BOOT CAMPAIGN WERE SITTING

AND MY CLOSET.

THE WHOLE PURPOSE BEHIND

THEIR MISSION IS TO GET

CIVILIANS IN THE BOOTS AS

A SHOW OF PATRIOTISM.

I THOUGHT, YOU KNOW WHAT?

THAT'S WHAT I'M GOING TO

DO.

THOSE BOOTS ARE GOING TO

BECOME MY SOLIDARITY WITH

MY SON.

I SIGNED UP FOR A HALF

MARATHON, AND I HAD THE

COMBAT BOOTS ON.

AND WE GOT AT THE STARTING

LINE, AND WE TOOK OFF.

DEPRESSION STARTED FALLING

OFF WITH EVERY STEP THAT I

TOOK.

IT WAS LIKE ARMOR BEING

TOSSED OFF ME.

IT WAS LIKE THE PAIN WAS

JUST PEELING AWAY.

ABOUT MILE 10 MY BODY

REMINDED ME WHY I WASN'T A

RUNNER.

MY KNEES STARTED HURTING.

WITH EVERY STEP I'M JUST

IN EXCRUCIATING PAIN.

AND I MADE IT.

WHEN I GOT ACROSS THE

FINISH LINE, I FELL INTO

THE ARMS OF THE ANNOUNCER,

AND HE ANNOUNCED TO THE

CROWD THAT I WAS THERE FOR

MY SON.

THERE WAS PEACE AND

HAPPINESS IN THAT PLACE.

I HAD CONNECTED WITH ONE

OF THE MOMS OF ONE OF THE

GUYS ON MY PACK.

AND SHE HAD TOLD ME THAT

IT WAS HIS DREAM TO ALWAYS

DO AN IRON MAN SOME DAY.

SO I TOLD HER, I'M GOING

TO GET ANTHONY ACROSS THE

FINISH LINE.

AND I COULDN'T SWIM.

I COULDN'T PUT MY FACE IN

THE WATER.

I WOULD, LIKE, HYPE

HYPERVENTILATE.

AND I HEARD GOD'S WORDS,

GET UNCOMFORTABLE.

WHEN I DID NOT FINISH THE

SWIM AT THAT FIRST IRON

MAN, THE PAIN WAS

UNBEARABLE.

AND IT WAS NOT MY PAIN.

IT WASN'T MY EGO.

I WAS RAISING MONEY FOR

THE BOOT CAMPAIGN.

I HAD PEOPLE FROM THE

ORGANIZATION THERE.

I HAD PEOPLE THAT

SPONSORED MONEY TO HELP

GET ME THERE.

AND THEN I HAD MY GUYS.

AND I HAD ANTHONY AND I

HAD HIS MOM.

AND LETTING THEM DOWN WAS

SO PAINFUL.

I RACED ANOTHE IN ANOTHER IRON

MAN.

AND I SAID, GOD, YOU WOULD

NOT HAVE PUT THIS IN MY

HEART TO DO IT IF YOU

DIDN'T ALSO GIVE ME THE

ABILITY TO DO IT.

AND I JUST WENT.

AND THE COOL THING IS THAT

I SANG TO MYSELF AND TO

HIM ALL OF THE WAY.

AND THE SAME THING ON THE

BIKE.

AND THE SAME THING ON THE

RUN.

WE DID ALL 140.6 MILES

UNDER MIDNIGHT.

WE GOT TO THE FINISH LINE

AT 11:45, BUT I GOT MY

GUYS TO THE FINISH LINE.

AND IRON MAN WAS NICE

ENOUGH TO GO AHEAD AND

GIVE ME A FINISHER'S

MEDAL.

NOT FOR ME TO KEEP.

I SENT THAT TO ANTHONY'S

MOM.

AND I REMEMBER I WAS

SITTING AT MY DESK, AND I

THOUGHT, YOU KNOW, I'D

REALLY LIKE TO SEND

ANOTHER MEDAL.

SO I PUT UP ON Facebook,

I WOULD LIKE TO BE ABLE TO

SEND MY FRIEND A MEDAL FOR

HER BROTHER.

NOW, THESE RACE MEDALS ARE

LIKE OLYMPIC GOLD MEDALS

TO IRON MEN.

I DIDN'T EXPECT TO GET A

SINGLE MEDAL.

WITHIN TWO HOURS, I HAD

ENOUGH MEDALS FOR ALL 21

FALLEN ON MY PACK.

AND THAT'S HOW MY

ORGANIZATION, "MEDALS OF

HONOR," STARTED.

THERE IS SOMETHING THAT

ALL MILITARY FAMILIES

SHARE.

AND THOSE FEARS ARE THAT

WE LOSE OUR LOVED ONES IN

WAR, AND THAT THEIR MEMORY

AND THEIR SACRIFICE, AND

WORSE YET THEIR LIFE, WILL

BE FORGOTTEN.

IT MAY LOOK SMALL IN

SCALE, IT MAY LOOK HUGE IN

SCALE, BUT IT IS NOT UNTIL

WE EITHER QUIET IT DOWN,

SLOW IT DOWN, OR

SOMETIMES, UNFORTUNATELY,

WE HAVE TO HIT A WALL FOR

USTO STOP AND GO, WHAT IS

IT THAT I'M SUPPOSED TO BE

DOING.

LET GO AND LET GOD.

Wendy: WHAT AN

AMAZING STORY.

WHAT A HUGE HEART SHE HAS,

PAT.

Pat: REMARKABLE.

Wendy: I LIKE HER

BOOTS.

I WANT THOSE BOOTS.

Pat: I WOULD PREFER

TO HAVE RUNNING SHOES.

Wendy: BUT SHE IS

BRINGING A LOT OF HOPE AND

HEALING.

Pat: SHE IS AN

AMAZING WOMAN.

THAT'S GREAT.

Wendy: IRON MAN, WOW,

THAT'S TOUGH.

STILL AHEAD, AN END OF

WEEK EDITION OF "BRING IT

ON."

THIS ONE SAYS, "I HAVE

ALWAYS BELIEVED IN GOD,

BUT WHEN I PRAYER, I NEVER

FEEL THE LOVE OF THE LORD.

IS SOMETHING WRONG WITH

ME?"

YOUR QUESTIONS ARE RIGHT

AROUND THE CORNER, SO STAY

TUNED.

Efrem: AND WELCOME

BACK TO "THE 700 CLUB."

A KANSAS JUDGE HAS

TEMPORARILY BLOCKED THE

STATE'S BAN ON ABORTIONS

IN THE SECOND TRIMESTER OF

TRADINGS.

THE CENTER FOR

REPRODUCTIVE RIGHTS SUED,

ARGUING THE LAW WOULD

FORCE WOMEN TO UNDERGO

RISKIER PROCEDURES OR

FOREGO ABORTIONS.

THE JUDGE'S ORDER TO BLOCK

THE BAN WILL STAY IN

EFFECT WHILE HE CONSIDERS

THE LAWSUIT FURTHER.

ANTI-ABORTION ACTIVISTS

WERE DISAPPOINTED AT THE

RULING, BUT SAY THEY ARE

NOT DEFEATED.

WE BELIEVE THAT

ULTIMATELY THIS LAW WILL

STAND BECAUSE THIS LAW IS

CONSTITUTIONAL, THAT WE'RE

ON FIRM SOLID GROUND, THAT

THE UNITED STATES SUPREME

COURT HAS TOLD US WE'RE ON

FIRM SOLID GROUND.

THAT WE CAN TAKE AN

INTEREST IN THE -- A

PROFOUND INTEREST IN THE

LIFE OF THE UNBORN.

Efrem: SECOND

TRIMESTER PROCEDURES HAVE

BEEN DUBBED DISMEMBERMENT

ABORTIONS.

> "OPERATION BLESSING"

IS HELPING TO FEED THE

HUNGRY IN TEXAS.

THIS YEAR'S TRIP INCLUDED

HUNGER RELIEF AND

CHILDREN'S PROGRAMS.

THEY DID SOME MAINTENANCE

ON A LOCAL BASEBALL FIELD

THAT SERVES STRUGGLING

FAMILIES, PREPARING THE

FIELD FOR THE SUMMER.

AND VOLUNTEERS SURPRISED

FAMILIES WITH BOXES OF

FOOD, HYGIENE ITEMS AND

OTHER HOUSEHOLD SUPPLIES.

IMPACT TRIPS ARE DESIGNED

TO GIVE VOLUNTEERS A TASTE

OF WHAT "OPERATION

BLESSING" DOES TO

ALLEVIATE HUMAN SUFFERING

HERE IN THE U.S.

YOU CAN FIND OUT MORE

ABOUT "OPERATION BLESSING"

BY GOING TO ITS WEBSITE

AT ob.org.

PAT AND WENDY ARE BACK

WITH MORE OF "THE 700

CLUB" RIGHT AFTER THIS.

Wendy: WELCOME BACK

TO "THE 700 CLUB."

IT IS FRIDAY, AND IT IS

TIME FOR YOUR E-MAIL

QUESTIONS.

AND, PAT, ARE YOU READY?

Pat: LET'S "BRING IT

ON."

Wendy: MARIO SAYS,

"I'VE ALWAYS LOVED AND

ACCEPTED JESUS.

AND I BELIEVE IN HIM AND

PRAY TO HIM EVERY DAY.

BUT I ALMOST NEVER FEEL

THE LOVE OF GOD.

AND WHEN I PRAY, I ALWAYS

GET A SENSE THAT SOMETHING

WANTS ME TO NOT BELIEVE.

I WILL ALWAYS BELIEVE, BUT

THIS MAKES ME FEARFUL THAT

I DON'T BELIEVE IN GOD,

BUT I DO.

I ALWAYS HEAR IF I DON'T

FEEL GOD'S LOVE, IT IS

JUST A DRY SEASON.

PLEASE, I NEED QUICK

HELP."

Pat: ALL RIGHT,

MARIO, FIRST OF ALL IT

ISN'T FEELING THAT DOES

IT; IT IS FAITH.

YOU NEED TO DECLARE THE

PROMISES OF GOD.

BUT I WOULD ASK YOU THIS:

IS THERE SOME SIN IN YOUR

LIFE?

IS THERE SOMETHING THAT

YOU'RE HOLDING ON TO?

HAS GOD SPOKEN TO YOU

ABOUT SOMETHING AND YOU

REFUSE TO DO IT?

THERE IS A PSALM WRITTEN

BY DAVID, AND HE SAID,

RESTORE UNTO ME THE JOY OF

YOUR SALVATION, AND TAKE

NOT YOUR HOLY SPIRIT FROM

ME.

DAVID HAD THE HOLY SPIRIT,

EVEN THOUGH HE COMMITTED

ADULTERY AND MURDER.

BUT THE JOY HAD LEFT.

SO IN YOUR CASE, ASK

YOURSELF, IS THERE

SOMETHING THERE?

AND IF THERE IS NOT, IF

THERE IS, CONFESS IT AND

PUT IT AWAY.

IF THERE IS NOT, THEN

BEGIN TO CONCENTRATE ON

THE PROMISES OF GOD.

DON'T CONCENTRATE ON THE

FEELING.

CONCENTRATE ON JESUS.

AND TELL HIM HOW MUCH YOU

LOVE HIM.

AND JUST SPEND TIME

WORSHIPPING HIM.

AND OUT OF THAT WILL COME

THE JOY.

Wendy: AMEN.

THIS VIEWER SAYS, "DEAR

PAT, I RECENTLY RECEIVED

MONEY THROUGH AN

INHERITANCE.

BEFORE I SHARE IT BETWEEN

MY TWO DAUGHTERS, I WOULD

LIKE TO GIVE THE LORD THE

FIRST PORTION.

WOULD THAT BE 10% OF THE

ENTIRE AMOUNT?

SHOULD I HAVE MY BANK

ISSUE M THE FIRST CHECK?"

Pat: IF YOU WANT TO

TITHE 10% OF YOUR

INHERITANCE, THAT WOULD BE

A GOOD TITHE AND THE LORD

WILL BLESS IT.

YOU DON'T HAVE TO TALK

WITH YOUR DAUGHTERS OR

TALK TO ANYBODY ELSE.

IF YOU GET $100,000, YOU

WRITE A CHECK TO $10,000

AND GIVE IT TO WHATEVER

CHARITY YOU WANT TO.

AND THEN THE REST OF IT IS

YOURS.

DO WHAT YOU WISH WITH IT.

Wendy: AMEN.

VICTORIA SAYS 15 YEARS

AGO, I HAD BEEN MARRIED 21

YEARS TO AN ABUSIVE CLICK.

HE WAS A SCIENTIST,

ANIARYANIARYENGINEER,ANENGINEER, BUT AT HOME A

DRUNK.

I BROUGHT OUR KIDS UP

PRESBYTERIAN BY MYSELF.

DUE TO ALL I LEARN FROM

YOUR "THE 700 CLUB,"

IIERAIYEARN FOR A HUSBAND TO

SHARE WITH.

I'M 61, AND I'VE FOUND

CHRISTIAN MINGLE TO BE

LIKE ALL OTHER DATING

SITES.

I'M ASKING YOU WITH FULL

SINCERITY TO PLEASE FOUND

A CHRISTIAN DATING SITE

FOR THOSE WHO ABSTAIN FROM

SEX UNTIL MARRIAGE.

IT'S IMPERATIVE."

DO NOT LAUGH, PAT.

Pat: I JUST THINK AT

MY AGE AND MY TIME IN

LIFE, I'M NOT ABOUT TO

START A CHRISTIAN DATING

SITE.

BUT IN YOUR CASE,

APPARENTLY YOU WERE

MARRIED.

THEN YOU WERE SEPARATED.

AND DURING THAT PERIOD OF

TIME YOU WERE TIME YOU

WERE, QUOTE,"SEXUALLY

ACTIVE."

AND ALL OF A SUDDEN OUT OF

THAT SEXUAL ACTIVITY, YOU

SAID I SHOULDN'T DO THIS

ANYMORE.

AND SO FOR THE LAST FOUR

YEARS YOU HAVE ABSTAINED.

AND NOW YOU KIND OF HAVE

URGES.

FORGET THE DATING SITE.

JUST ASK GOD TO SEND YOU

THE APPROPRIATE HUSBAND.

YOU'RE LOOKING FOR A

HUSBAND.

AND SEE WHAT CAN HAPPEN.

YOU APPARENTLY HAVE URGES

THAT ARE GETTING THE

BETTER OF YOU.

FROM WHAT I GATHER, YOUR

UNBELIEVING HUSBAND HAS

GONE AWAY SOMEWHERE.

YOU DIDN'T TELL ME WHAT

HAPPENED TO HIM.

THE BIBLE SAYS IF THE

UNBELIEVER IS PLEASED TO

DEPART, LET HIM DEPART.

YOU'RE NOT BOUND.

YOU CAN GET MARRIED AGAIN

IF YOU WANT TO.

GOD HAS SOMEBODY FOR YOU.

Wendy: GOD SAYS HE

GIVES US THE DESIRES OF

OUR HEART.

SOMETIMES WE HAVE TO WAIT

FOR HIS BEST.

JUST STAY IN FAITH, AND

GOD WILL ANSWER YOUR

PRAYER.

Pat: I DON'T THINK I

HAVE TO START A CHRISTIAN

DATING SITE TO GET YOU A

MAN.

YOU'LL FIND ONE.

Wendy: BUT WE'LL

PRAYER FOR YOU.

PAT AND I WILL BELIEVE GOD

HE IS SENDING SOMEONE.

> MIRA SAYS IN EXODUS,

GOD INSTRUCTED MOSES AS TO

HOW TO MAKE THE ANOINTING

OIL TO BE USED ON THE

PRIEST.

GOD SAID IF ANYONE

DUPLICATES THIS OIL, THEY

WILL BE CURSED.

I'VE PURCHASED OIL THAT I

USE WHEN I PRAY FOR

PEOPLE.

THE PERSON SAYSS THE BIBLE SAYS WE ARE

PRIESTS FOREVER.

WHAT IS YOUR TAKE ON

THIS?"

Pat: IF ANYBODY TRIES

TO RECREATE THAT ANOINTING

OIL, THEY WILL BE CURSED

BY GOD.

IF I WERE YOU, I WOULDN'T

DO IT.

JUST USE SOME PLAIN OLD

OLIVE OIL.

DON'T TRY TO TAKE UP THAT

FORMULA USED BY THOSE

PRIESTS.

Wendy: I HAD NEVER

HEARD THAT SCRIPTURE

BEFORE.

I LIKE TO BUY ANOINTING

OIL IF I'M OVERSEAS --

Pat: BUT IF IT IS

THAT SAME FORMULA -- IT IS

A DREADFUL WARNING.

Wendy: OLIVE OIL IS

THE WAY IT IS.

Pat: ALL RIGHT.

Wendy: THANKS, PAT.

GREAT ANSWERS, AS ALWAYS.

WE APPRECIATE IT.

> UP NEXT, A WOMAN WHO

HATED BEING ONE.

I DON'T WANT NOTHING TO

DO WITH IT.

IF THAT FEMININE SIDE WAS

OUT THERE, IT WOULD BE

HURT AGAIN.

Wendy: HEAR THE

QUESTION THAT ANSWERED HER

IDENTITY CRISIS, NEXT.

Pat: RECENTLY

Facebook ANNOUNCED THAT

IT WAS EXPANDING ITS

GENDER OPTIONS FROM JUST

MALE AND FEMALE TO INCLUDE

AT LEAST -- IF YOU CAN

BELIEVE IT -- 50 OTHER

CHOICES.

AN ICONIC SPORTSMAN IS

BEING HONORED FOR BECOMING

A WOMAN.

THE PICTURE IS ON "VANITY

FAIR."

OUR CULTURE HAS BECOME

ACCEPTANCE OF ALTERNATE

LIFESTYLES.

AND AUDRA AUSTIN WENT DOWN

THAT ROAD, AND IT NEARLY

LED TO HER SUICIDE.

WATCH THIS.

Reporter: AUDRA

AUSTIN HATED BEING FEMALE.

THAT FEELING EMERGED WHEN

SHE WAS A LITTLE GIRL

AFTER SHE WAS MOLESTED BY

A WOMAN IN HER FAMILY.

I SAW FEMININITY AS A

WEAKNESS, AND REALLY

ALMOST AFRAID OF MYSELF.

IF THAT FEMININE SIDE WAS

OUT THERE, THAT IT WOULD

BE HURT AGAIN.

Reporter: AT AGE 11

HER PARENTS DIVORCED, AND

THE WAR AGAINST HER

IDENTITY RAGED ON.

AUDRA SAYS HER

STEPFATHER'S ABUSIVE

BEHAVIOR REINFORCED HER

FEARS.

HE WOULD EVEN TAKE THE

BIBLE AND HE WOULD TELL

ME, WOMEN ARE MADE FROM

THE RIB OF ADAM, SO YOU'RE

LESS THAN.

I LOVE MY MOM, BUT MY MOM

IS ALLOWING THIS MAN TO DO

THESE THINGS.

IF THAT IS WHAT BEING

FEMALE IS, IF BEING FEMALE

MEANS BEING WITH A GUY

THAT IS GOING TO TELL YOU

YOU'RE SUB HUMAN BECAUSE

YOU'RE A WOMAN, I DON'T

WANT NOTHING TO DO WITH

IT.

Reporter: THROUGHOUT

HER CHILDHOOD, SHE USED

ALCOHOL AND DRUGS TO NUMB

THE PAIN.

BY THE TIME SHE WAS IN

HIGH SCHOOL, AUDRA HAD

REJECTED BEING FEMININE.

I BECAME MUCH MORE

MASCULINE LOOKING.

I WORE EVERYTHING THAT IS

MEN'S CLOTHES, EVEN DOWN

TO MEN'S UNDERWEAR.

Reporter: AT 19, SHE

STARTED DATING AN OLDER

WOMAN.

THE GAY LIFESTYLE FOR

ME WAS MORE ABOUT LOVE AND

ACCEPTANCE.

THERE WAS A LOT OF

EMBRACING YOU AS YOU ARE.

HOWEVER, THERE WAS A LOT

OF MISERY.

Reporter: FOR THE

NEXT 10 YEARS, SHE LOOKED

FOR LOVE IN RELATIONSHIPS,

BUT NONE OF THEM LASTED.

SHE WAS DEEPLY DEPRESSED

AND ATTEMPTED SUICIDE

SEVERAL TIMES.

EVERY DAY AT WORK, A

CCOWORKER WOULD TELL AUDRA

ABOUT JESUS.

I WAS ONE OF THE MEAN

PEOPLE.

ONE TIME I FLIPPED HIM

OFF.

HE SAID, I KIND OF TOLD

YOU ALL I COULD TELL YOU.

THERE IS A LADY YOU NEED

TO TALK TO.

Reporter: HE GAVE HER

THE NUMBER OF A WOMAN FROM

HIS CHURCH.

HE SAID SHE WAS A

PROPHET.

AND MY IDEA OF A PROPHET

WAS, IT IS A FORTUNE

TELLER.

SO I DROVE THERE AND

PULLED OUT MY CIGARETTE,

AND I STORMED UP TO THE

DOOR.

AND THIS LITTLE PETITE

LADY OPENS THE DOOR TO HER

HOME.

SHE WAS VERY SOFT-SPOKEN,

AND SHE INVITES ME IN.

I REMEMBER SHE HAD A

LITTLE GLASS HORSE ON HER

COFFEE TABLE.

AND I WAS, LIKE, WOW,

THAT'S NICE.

AND SHE GOES, YOU LIKE IT?

YOU CAN HAVE IT.

I WAS, LIKE, REALLY?

Reporter: THE KIND

GESTURE LED AUDRA TO LET

HER GUARD DOWN.

AND THE WOMAN ASKED HER A

QUESTION SHE WASN'T

EXPECTING.

NO ONE EVER ASKED ME,

WHY DO YOU THINK YOU'RE

LIKE YOU ARE?

AND WHEN SHE ASKED ME THAT

QUESTION, I COULD NOT

ANSWER.

I REMEMBER SOBBING AND

LITERALLY TELLING HER, I

DON'T KNOW.

I DON'T KNOW.

AND THAT WAS THE MOMENT

THAT SHE OPENED UP A

BIBLE.

Reporter: THE WOMAN

TOLD AUDRA ABOUT A NEW

KIND OF RELATIONSHIP.

THE STATE THAT I WAS

LIVING IN, I WAS IN A

SINFUL STATE.

I WAS SEPARATED FROM GOD.

AND THAT GOD LOVED ME

ENOUGH TO PURSUE ME.

TO ME, LOVE WAS A BAD WORD

BECAUSE OF ALL OF THE

THINGS I HAD EXPERIENCED.

SO THIS GOD THAT LOVED ME

GAVE ME HOPE THAT I COULD

BE LOVED, YOU KNOW, THAT I

COULD BE WORTH LOVING.

I FINALLY FELT MYSELF --

LIKE THIS INSIDE JUST

FINALLY SURRENDERING.

AND SAYING, JESUS, I MADE

A MESS OF MY LIFE.

PLEASE TAKE IT AND DO

SOMETHING WITH IT.

AND THAT WAS THE BEGINNING

OF MY JOURNEY.

Reporter: AUDRA

BECAME CONFIDENT WHEN HER

OWN FEMININE STYLE.

SHE LOST HER DESIRE FOR

DRUGS AND ALCOHOL, BUT SHE

STILL STRUGGLED WITH

SAME-SEX ATTRACTION.

BUT, GOD, I DON'T EVEN

LIKE MEN.

THEY REPULSE ME.

AND THEN I STOPPED.

AND I WAS, LIKE, GOD, I

JUST WANT TO KNOW YOU.

I REMEMBER SAYING, I

CHOOSE YOU.

Reporter: OVER TIME,

SHE NOTICED A CHANGE.

FOUR YEARS AFTER THAT,

I CLEARLY REMEMBER THE DAY

THAT SOMEONE WALKED PAST

ME -- THIS MAN WALKED PAST

ME WITH THIS AFTERSHAVE,

AND I WAS, LIKE, HEY THAT

SMELLS GOOD.

I REMEMBER THE DAY WHERE

GOD DID A WORK IN ME WHERE

I WAS NOW PHYSICALLY

ATTRACTED TO THE OPPOSITE

SEX.

Reporter: SHE IS

LOOKING FORWARD TO

STARTING A FAMILY WITH HER

HUSBAND, ROY.

HE IS MY BIG TEDDY

BEAR.

I FEEL SAFE AND SECURE

WHEN I'M AROUND HIM.

AND HE COMPLIMENTS ME.

THERE IS HOPE.

JESUS IS THE WAY OUT.

IF YOU WANT TO COME OUT OF

THE GAY LIFESTYLE, JESUS

IS THE WAY OUT.

AND I WANTED OUT.

AND HE WAS MY WAY.

AND HE IS THE WAY, THE

TRUTH, AND THE LIFE.

Pat: YOU KNOW,

HAPPINESS IS WHAT GOD HAS.

I'VE SAID ON THIS PROGRAM

BEFORE THAT IF SOMEBODY

HONESTLY, REALLY, DEEP IN

THEIR HEART FEELS FROM

EMOTIONS, FROM GLANDS,

FROM VARIOUS THINGS GOING

ON IN YOUR BODY THAT YOU,

INDEED, ARE A WOMAN

TRAPPED IN A MAN'S BODY

AND SO FORTH, WELL, OKAY.

I, FOR ONE, DON'T SEE

ANYTHING PARTICULARLY

SINFUL ABOUT ESTABLISHING

YOUR PROPER IDENTITY.

BUT IN AUDRA'S CASE, SHE

WAS A WOMAN AND SHE HAD

BEEN MOLESTED.

SO THE MOLESTATION BY A

WOMAN MADE HER THINK THAT

SOMEHOW SHE WAS A LESBIAN.

AND OVER THE YEARS SHE HAD

THAT REINFORCED.

IT WASN'T THAT SHE HAD TO

BECOME A MAN, NOR WAS IT

THE FACT THAT SHE, INDEED,

WAS A LESBIAN.

WHAT SHE WAS WAS SOMEBODY

WHO HAD BEEN DEEPLY

SCARRED.

AND SHE NEEDED TO KNOW ONE

THING, AND THAT WAS THAT

GOD ALMIGHTY LOVES HER.

AND THAT'S MORE IMPORTANT

THAN ANYTHING ELSE.

IT IS MORE IMPORTANT THEY

MALE TO MALE OR FEMALE TO

MA'AM ANFEMALE AND ALL OF THESE

COMBINATIONS.

THERE IS ONE THING MORE

IMPORTANT: GOD ALMIGHTY

LOVES YOU.

AND WE ARE SPIRITS.

WE'RE BODY, SOUL, AND

SPIRIT.

AND THE BODY IS NOT AS

IMPORTANT AS WE MAKE IT.

WE SPEND ALL OF THIS TIME

WORRYING ABOUT WHAT IS THE

SEX AND HOW DO WE DO SEX,

AND WHO IS DOING SEX WITH

WHOM, AND LEGEND BILLION LGBT, AND ALL OF

THIS OTHER STUFF, AND IT

DOESN'T MAKE ANY

DIFFERENCE.

WHAT MATTERS IS A SPIRIT.

YOU HAVE A SPIRIT THAT IS

MADE IN THE IMAGE OF GOD.

AND THAT SPIRIT IS CRYING

OUT.

AND GOD SAYS, I LOVE YOU.

AND IF YOU'LL TURN YOUR

LIFE OVER TO ME, I'LL GIVE

YOU A WHOLE NEW IDENTITY.

KEEP ONE THING IN MIND:

THE TIME WILL COME WHEN

ALL OF US WILL DIE.

EVERY ONE OF US.

THAT IS THE END.

EVERYBODY WILL DIE.

AND AFTER THAT, THE

JUDGMENT.

IT IS APPOINTED UNTO MAN

ONES TO DIE, AND AFTER

THAT THE JUDGMENT.

SO WE'LL ALL DIE.

AND ONCE WE DIE, OUR

SPIRITS WILL BE LIKE THE

ANGELS.

AND ALL OF THE BUSINESS OF

SEX WILL NOT BE THERE

ANYMORE BECAUSE WE WILL NO

LONGER BE IN A

REPRODUCTIVE STATE.

WE'LL BE LIKE THE ANGELS.

NOW, I ASK YOU RIGHT NOW,

DO YOU WANT LOVE?

AND IF YOU WANT REAL LOVE,

PRAY WITH ME NOW.

AND THE LORD WILL GIVE YOU

THE LOVE YOU ARE LOOKING

FOR.

PRAY THESE WORDS: JESUS, I

ASK FOR YOUR LOVE.

YOU KNOW THE MISTAKES I'VE

MADE.

YOU KNOW WHAT HAS BEEN

DONE TO ME.

BUT, GOD, I WANT YOUR

LOVE.

PLEASE COME IN NOW.

FILL ME WITH YOURSELF.

AT THIS MOMENT, GIVE ME

RELEASE.

AND GIVE ME LOVE.

IN JESUS' NAME.

AMEN.

AND AMEN.

IF YOU PRAYED WITH ME,

PLEASE CALL.

THE NUMBER IS ON YOUR

SCREEN.

WE LEAVE YOU WITH TODAY'S

POWER MINUTE FROM PSALM

34: "THE ANGEL OF THE LORD

ENCAMPS ALL AROUND THOSE

WHO FEAR HIM AND DELIVERS

THEM."

HAVE A GREAT WEEKEND.

WE'LL SEE YOU ON MONDAY.

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