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I LITERALLY WENT FROM
THE COUCH TO A 5K.
Wendy: THIS MOTHER
DOES, IN FACT, WEAR COMBAT
BOOTS.
I'M JUST IN
EXCRUCIATING PAIN.
Wendy: HEAR WHY SHE
RUNS.
MY BODY REMINDED ME WHY
I WASN'T A RUNNER.
Wendy: AND GRITS
THROUGH THE PAIN.
THIS EXACT WORDS WERE,
GET UNCOMFORTABLE.
Wendy: ON TODAY'S
"700 CLUB."
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Pat: WELL, WELCOME TO
"THE 700 CLUB."
THE THING THAT WE FEARED
HAS COME UPON US.
FIVE SUPREME COURT
JUSTICES HAVE LEGALIZED
SAME-SEX MARRIAGE IN ALL
THE 50 STATES OF THE
UNITED STATES.
IN A DECISION BEING CALLED
THE BIGGEST SINCE ROE VS.
WADE.
IT IS ALREADY SHAPING UP
TO THE MOST CONTROVERSIAL
OF THEIR DECISIONS.
Wendy: CHIEF JUSTICE
JOHN ROBERTS OPPOSED THE
RULING, ARGUING THAT THE
HIGH COURTS SHOULD NOT ACT
LIKE A LEGISLATURE.
PAUL STRAND WAS THERE AT
THE COURT WHEN THE RULING
CAME DOWN.
[APPLAUSE]
Reporter: SOME WERE
ESTATIC OVER THIS WIN,
THEY CHEERED AND CHANTED
AND SANG AS THEY WON THE
RIGHT TO MARRIAGE
NATIONWIDE.
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I'M SO EXCITED.
EXTREME HAPPINESS.
RELIEF AND JOY.
Reporter: NO MATTER
WHICH SIDE OF THE GAY
MARRIAGE CONTROVERSY
YOU'RE ON, THERE IS NO
GETTING AROUND THE FACT
THAT THIS COURT DECISION
IS MOMENTOUS.
BRIAN BROWN OF THE
NATIONAL ORGANIZATION FOR
MARRIAGE WARN OF DIRE KWON
QENSZ.
CONSEQUENCES.
IF YOU PUT INTO THE LAW
THERE IS NO DIFFERENCE
BETWEEN TWO MEN OR TWO
WOMEN THAN A MAN OR WOMAN,
AND THOSE WHO DON'T AGREE
ARE BIGOTS, IT IS USES THE
LAW TO PUNISH CHURCHES AND
INDIVIDUALS AND BUSINESSES
WHO STAND FOR THE TRUTH.
THIS COURT IS COMING UP
WITH ITS OWN DEFINITION,
AND IT WILL HAVE A
PROFOUND IMPACT ON
RELIGION IN THIS COUNTRY.
Reporter: BAKERS,
FLORISTS, WEDDING
PHOTOGRAPHERS AND SUCH WHO
DON'T WANT TO SERVICE GAY
WEDDINGS, AND SHE WAS
ASKED IF THEY WOULD
CONSIDER A CEASE-FIRE AND
THE FIRM ANSWER WAS NO.
WE WILL CONTINUE TO
MAKE SURE EVERYONE'S
RIGHTS ARE PROTECTED, AND
PEOPLE ACTUALLY DO GET TO
CELEBRATE AND CHOOSE WHO
THEY WANT AROUND THEM WHEN
THEY GET MARRIED.
THEY GET THE CAKE THEY
WANT AND THE FLOWERS THEY
WANT.
RELIGIOURELIGION SHOULD NOT BE
USED TO DISCRIMINATE
AGAINST OTHERS.
President Obama: ALL
OF US WHO WELCOME TODAY'S
NEWS SHOULD BE MINDFUL OF
THAT FACT.
Reporter: AND BROWN
SAID REALLY THE FIGHT HAS
JUST BEGUN.
THIS IS LIKE THE
PASSAGE OF ROE.
THE PRO-LIFE MOVEMENT HAS
GROWN, NOT WITHERED AWAY.
Reporter: THOSE HERE
FOR GAY MARRIAGE SAY
THAT'S IT, THE ISSUE IS
SETTLED.
BUT THOSE ON THE OTHER
SIDE SAY WHAT THE COURT
DID WAS IGNITE YEARS OF
ROE VS. WADE, AND YEARS OF
THIS ISSUE AND STILL
AHEAD.
PAUL STRAND, CBN NEWS, THE
SUPREME COURT.
Pat: LADIES AND
GENTLEMEN, IT HAS
HAPPENED.
A MARRIAGE IS THE
SACRAMENT OF THE CHRISTIAN
CHURCH.
IT IS SOLIDIFIED BY THE
UNION OF A MAN AND A WOMAN
IN ACCORDANCE WITH GOD'S
LAW.
MARRIAGE IS A SACRAMENT OF
THE CHRISTIAN CHURCH.
BUT IT HAS NOW BEEN TAKEN
BY THE SUPREME COURT TO
APPLY TO THOSE WHO ARE NOT
QUALIFIED TO BE HUSBAND
AND WIFE.
WE HAD IN THIS COUNTRY,
PASSED BY THE UNITED
STATES CONGRESS, WHAT WAS
CALLED THE DOMER DEFENSE
OF MARRIAGE ACT, WHICH
DECLARED THAT MARRIAGE WAS
BETWEEN A MAN AND A WOMAN.
AND NOW THE SUPREME COURT,
HAVING NULLIFIED DOMA HAS
EXTENDED THE 14th
AMENDMENT TO SAY THAT IT
APPLIES TO THE RIGHTS OF
HOMOSEXUALS, TO HAVE THE
RIGHT OF MARRIAGE APPLIED
TO THEM.
WENDY?
Wendy: PAT, HOW
SHOULD PEOPLE OF FAITH
FEEL RIGHT NOW?
THIS IS HUGE.
THIS GOES AGAINST
EVERYTHING THAT THE BIBLE
TEACHES.
Pat: WHEN THESE
THINGS WERE BROUGHT UP
BEFORE THE PEOPLE OF THE
UNITED STATES, THEY VOTED
OVERWHELMING TO PROTECT
MARRIAGE AS AN INSTITUTION
BETWEEN A MAN AND A WOMAN.
BUT THE GAY AGENDA HAS
JUST BEEN ROLLING LIKE A
STEAMROLLER ACROSS THIS
LAND.
HOW SHOULD THEY FEEL?
THE QUESTION IS: HOW
THREATENED SHOULD THEY
FEEL.
WE'VE HAD THE CASE OF ONE
BAKER WHO WAS THREATENED
WITH A FINE BECAUSE HE
WOULDN'T BAKE A WEDDING
CAKE FOR A HOMOSEXUAL
WEDDING.
THE GAYS HAVE BEEN WILLING
TO DESTROY ANY INSTITUTION
OF OUR SOCIETY THAT GOT IN
THEIR WAY.
AND THIS IS ONE
INSTITUTION.
SO WHAT ARE CHRISTIANS
SUPPOSED TO FEEL?
WELL, THEY FEEL, THAT
ACCORDING TO THE BIBLE,
HOMOSEXUALITY IS AN
ABOMINATION, AND IT IS A
SIN.
AND YET WE'RE BEING TOLD
NOW IT IS A CONSTITUTIONAL
RIGHT FOR PEOPLE WHO ENTER
INTO SUCH A RELATIONSHIP.
HOW SHOULD THEY FEEL?
I THINK THEY SHOULD FEEL
THAT THEY'RE LOSING A
VITAL PART OF THEIR
FREEDOM.
AND I THINK THAT'S WHAT
SOME OF THE JUSTICES WERE
SAYING IN THIS DESCENT.
Wendy: IT WILL BE
INTERESTING TO SEE WHAT
HAPPENS NOW IN THE
CHURCHES, IF PASTORS WILL
BE FORCED TO MARRY GAY
COUPLES, OR AT LEAST RIGHT
NOW THAT'S NOT THE CASE.
Pat: THE NEXT PHASE,
YOU KNOW -- I DON'T
UNDERSTAND WHAT HAPPENED
TO KENNEDY.
HE WAS A STRONG
CONSERVATIVE.
HE WAS APPOINTED BY RONALD
REAGAN, AND THOUGHT OF AS
A GREAT PICK ON THE
SUPREME COURT.
AND YET SOMEHOW HE HAS
JUST IDEALIZED THE
HOMOSEXUAL RELATIONSHIP.
HE HAS MADE IT IS INTO
SOME MYSTICAL UNION OF
SPIRITUAL BEINGS.
IT IS UNBELIEVABLE, SOME
OF THE WRITINGS HE HAS
HAD.
WHAT HAPPENS NEXT?
POLYGAMY.
IF HOMOSEXUALITY IS RIGHT
FOR MARRIAGE, IT MEANS WE
CAN MARRY PEOPLE ENGAGED
IN POLYGAMY.
WHY NOT?
IT IS A LOVE RELATIONSHIP,
WHY NOT?
AND SO THE LAWS WOULD HAVE
TO BE STRUCK DOWN.
WHAT ABOUT SO-CALLED POLY
AMORI?
YES.
YOU GO DOWN THE LINE.
AT WHAT POINT ARE THESE
FUNDAMENTAL RIGHTS GOING
TO BE TAKEN AWAY.
A PERSON SHOULD NOT BE
DEPRIVED OF LIFE, LIBERTY,
OR PROPERTY WITHOUT DUE
PROCESS OF LAW.
THAT'S WHAT IT SAYS.
SO IT'S A PROHIBITION
AGAINST THE GOVERNMENT
TAKING SOMETHING AWAY FROM
YOU, UNLESS YOU HAVE A
APPROPRIATE LEGAL REMEDY.
THIS IS GIVING SOMETHING
THAT BELONGED TO THE
CHURCH -- TAKING IT AWAY
FROM THE CHURCH AND GIVING
IT TO HOMOSEXUALS.
Wendy: OF COURSE, THE
LIBERALS ARE SAYING THIS
IS A CIVIL RIGHTS ISSUE,
AND GAY COUPLES WILL BE
ABLE TO GET A LOT MORE
BENEFITS.
Pat: BUT THEY COULD
HAVE GOTTEN IT JUST AS
EASILY WITH CIVIL UNIONS.
BUT MARRIAGE IS A
SUCCESSMENSACRAMENT OF THE CHURCH.
ONCE AGAIN, THE CHURCH HAS
BEEN INVADED BY THE STATE.
DON'T TALK ABOUT
SEPARATION OF CHURCH AND
STATE.
STATE HAS ENTERED INTO THE
REALM OF THE CHURCH
REPEATEDLY, AND THE CHURCH
IS BASICALLY FIGHTING FOR
ITS LIFE.
WELL, EFREM GRAHAM HAS
MORE OF OUR TOP STORIES
FROM THE CBN NEWS ROOM.
HERE IS EFREM.
Efrem: PAT, A
TERRORIST ATTACKED A CROWD
OF TOURISTS ON A BEACH IN
TUNISIA.
IT HAPPENED NEAR TWO
HOTELS IN THE
MEDITERRANEAN RESORT CITY
OF SOUSSE.
THE GUNMAN HIT A RIFLE IN
A BEACH UMBRELLA.
AND HE PULLED IT OUT,
SHOOTING THE BEACH-GOERS,
MURDERING 37 PEOPLE AND
WOUNDING 36 OTHERS.
MUSLIMS LIKELY WOULD NOT
BE AT THE BEACH LOCATION
DURING THEIR HOLY MONTH OF
RAMADAN.
> ONE PERSON WAS
BEHEADED AND SEVERAL
OTHERS WOUNDED IN AN
ISLAMIC TERRORIST ATTACK
ON A GAS FACTORY IN
SOUTHEASTERN FRANCE.
BANNERS WITH ARABIC
WRITING WERE FOUND NEAR
THE VICTIMS' BODY.
IT HAPPENED SOUTHEAST OF
THE CITY OF LEONE.
A MAN DROVE A CAR INTO THE
FACTORY ENTRANCE, TOUCHING
OFF AN EXPLOSION.
FRENCH AUTHORITIES SAY THE
MAIN ATTACKER HAS BEEN
CAUGHT, ALONG WITH SEVERAL
OTHER SUSPECTS.
THE GAS FACTORY IS OWNED
BY AN AMERICAN COMPANY.
THE OBAMA
ADMINISTRATION OFFICIALS
ARE BLAMING FEDERAL
GOVERNMENT COMPUTERS.D
NEW DETAILS ARE COMING OUT
ABOUT HOW THE THEFT HAS
SERIOUSLY DAMAGED NATIONAL
SECURITY.
Reporter: IT IS BEING
CALLED THE WORST HACK OF
THE U.S. GOVERNMENT IN
HISTORY.
HACKERS LOOTED FEDERAL
GOVERNMENT PERSONNELNT
RECORDS AFFECTING AS MANYANY
AS 32 MILLION CURRENT AND AS
FORMER EMPLOYEES.
AFTER A GRILLING THIS WEEK
ON CAPITOL HILL OF
OFFICIALS FROM THE OFFICE
OF PERSONNEL MANAGEMENT,
ONE LAW MAKER CALLED THE
LACK OF SECURITY AT O.B.
MM. JAW-DROPPING.
1963, I WASN'T EVEN A
BORN, ANDGE THAT'S THE AGE
OF THE EQUIPMENT WE'REDISA
USING.
Reporter: THE HACK
HAS BEEN A DISASTER FORHITE
AMERICAN
COUNTER-INTELLIGENCE.
WHEN THE WHITE HOUSE E
ADMITTED O.P.M. HAD BEEN
ATTACKED IN JUNE, IT SAIDRSON
THE CHINESE HACKERS STOLE
THE INFORMATION OF UP TO
FOUR MILLION FORMER AND
CURRENT EMPLOYEES.
HACKERS MADE OFF WITH
MILLIONS OF SECURITY
CLEARANCE BACKGROUND CHECK
FILES.
SO-CALLED ADJUDICATION
INFORMATION, SENSITIVES
FACTS COLLECTED BY U.S.
INVESTIGATORS ABOUT
GOVERNMENTNV EMPLOYEES AND
CONTRACTORS.RS.
DEEPLY PERSONAL
INFORMATION, SUCH AS
MARITAL PROBLEMS, DRUG AND
ALCOHOL, OR GAMBLING
PROBLEMS.
EVEN INFORMATION ABOUT A
PERSON'S SEX LIFE.
THAT MEANS CHINA ORHIN
ANOTHER FOREIGN ENTITY NOW
HAS THE POWERS TO FINDHE
U.S. OFFICIALS WHO HAVE
ACCESS TO CLASSIFIED C
DOCUMENTS AND BLACKMAIL
THEM.EM.
A SOURCE TOLD THE DAILY
BEAST WEBSITE THIS IS
WORSE THAN THE LEAKS BYRS
EDWARD SNOWDEN.
SO I WANT TO UNDERSTAND
WHY O.P.M. ISN'T USING
ENCRYPTION.
I WISH THAT OURS --
SYSTEMS -- ALL OF OUR
SYSTEMS WERE ABLE TO BE
FITTED WITH THE ENCRYPTION
TOOLS, BUT WE HAVE AN
OLDER LEGACY SYSTEM.
Reporter: KATHRYN
ARCHETLETTA SAYSER
ENCRYPTION WOULD NOT HAVET IS
PREVENTED THE INCIDENT.
IF THERE IS ANYONE TO
BLAME,THE PERPETRATORS.
THEY'RE CONCENTRATED, VERY
WELL-FUNDED, FOCUSED ANDOME
AGGRESSIVE.
Reporter:S SOME
REPUBLICANS ARE SAYING SHE
CANNOT BE TRUSTED TO FIX
THIS PROBLEM AND NEEDS TO
BE REPLACED.ED
DALES HURD, CBN NEWS.
Efrem: PAT, THIS ISIS
JUST DOWNRIGHT
UNBELIEVABLE.
Pat: IT ISVABL
UNBELIEVABLE.
LOOK, IN THE PRIVATE
SECTOR, THAT LADY WOULD
HAVE BEEN FIRED THE MINUTEIS
THIS THING HAPPENED.
AND THERE WOULD BE
ACCOUNTABILITY ALL UP AND
DOWN THE LINE.
YOU WON'T FIND ONE PERSON
WHO WILL LOSE THEIR JOB,
AND THEY'LL GO ON LIKE
THIS BECAUSE IT IS
INEFFICIENT.
APPARENTLY THE SYSTEM WEND
USE RECOGNIZES PREVIOUS
HACKS.
IF THERE HAD BEEN ONE,
THEN THIS SYSTEM WE USE
CAN SPOT IT.
BUT IF SOMEBODY COMES WITH
A NOVEL WAY OF HACKINGTE
YOUR SYSTEM, OUR SOFTWARE I
CAN'T HANDLE IT.
IT IS JUST THAT WAY.
IT IS TERRIBLE.
THE FACT TO THINK WHAT THE
CHINESE COULD DO WITH THAT
INFORMATION.
THEY'LL COMPROMISE PEOPLE,
THEIR SEX LIVES, THEY'RE
HAVING AFFAIRS, AND
THEY'LL HAVE IT ALL
PUBLIC.
THEYY' CAN COME OUT AND IT
BRING IT OUT AGAINST THEM.
THEY CAN GO TO THEM AND
SAY, WE KNOW WHAT YOUR ARE
CHILDREN ARE DOING AND WE
KNOW WHAT YOU'VE DONE.
THEREFORE WE NEED THIS
CONFIDENTIAL INFORMATION
OR ELSE WE'RE GOING PUBLIC
AND YOU'LL BE SHAMED AND
DESTROYED.
THIS IS AN AWFUL THING.
YOU TURN
AROUND, IT IS ONEMORE AREA ONE MORE
AREA OF INCOMPETENCE.
THE VETERANS
ADMINISTRATION,
INCOMPETENT.
THE I.R.S., INCOMPETENT.
ONE THING AFTER ANOTHER,
AND THERE IS NOTHING BEING
DONE ABOUT IT.
THERE IS NOBODY FIRED.
PEOPLE ARE BEING KEPT ON
THEIR JOBS.
AND YOU'VE GOT THIS THINGS
ABOUT LO LOIS LERNER, AND
HERE THE I.R.S. IS
COVERING THAT UP.
YOU FEEL SO HOPELESS.
AND YOU'RE, LIKE, WHAT CAN
I DO WITH THIS MONSTER
THAT IS SUCKING SO MUCH
MONEY OUT OF THE ECONOMY,
AND YET THEY'RE
INCOMPETENT.
EFREM?
Efrem: A NEW
REVELATION IN THE HILLARY
CLINTON E-MAIL SCANDAL.
15 WORK-RELATED E-MAILS
SENT AND RECEIVED BY
CLINTON ARE MISSING FROM
THEIR RECORDS.
THE E-MAILS ALL SURFACED
DURING AN INVESTIGATION ON
BENGHAZI BY THE HOUSE OF
REPRESENTATIVES.
ALL OF THE E-MAILS
PRE-DATE THE
SEPTEMBER 2012 TERROR
ATTACK ON THE U.S. CON
LATE ICONSULATE IN BENGHAZI.
THE E-MAILS CONFIRM
CLINTON DID NOT PROVIDE
ALL W ALLOW
EXPERTS TO TESTIFY THAT
CHANGE IS POSSIBLE FOR
MANY PEOPLE.
TWO CHURCHES HAVE BEEN
BURNED, ONE IN NORTH
CAROLINA, AND ONE IN
GEORGIA.
PATTERNS FOUND IN THE
RUINS OF THE BAPTIST
CHURCH IN CHARLOTTE
SUGGEST ARSON, BUT THEY
AREN'T CALLING THEM A HATE
CRIME.
THE FIRE CAUSED ABOUT
$250,000 IN DAMAGE, BUT
THE SANCTUARY IS
UNTOUCHED.
THE PASTOR IS SPEAKING OUT
SAYING ASHES CAN BE AN
ENVIRONMENT FOR HEALING.
THESE BUILDINGS CAN BE
REPAIRED.
SO IT IS AN OPPORTUNITY
FOR HEARTS TO BE REPAIRED
AS WELL.
WE REALLY WANT IT COVERED
IN LOVE.
WE ABSOLUTELY DON'T HAVE
ANY MALAISE AGAINST ANYONE
ELSE.
Efrem: MEANWHILE,
THERE IS A $10,000 REWARD
ON THE ARSON ATTACK IN
MAKMACON FLORIDA.
BURGLARS HAVE HIT THE
CHURCH TWICE IN THE PAST
YEAR, AND THE PASTOR
BELIEVES THE CRIMES COULD
BE CONNECTED.
> CHRISTIANS IN CUBA
RECEIVE MORE THAN 83,000
BIBLES EARLIER THIS MONTH.
THE BIBLES, SENT BY THE
INTERNATIONAL MISSIONS
BOARD, COME AT Añ
DONATIONS WHICH HAVE HAD A
HARD TIME KEEPING UP WITH
THE GROWING NUMBER OF
BELIEVERS IN THE PAST FEW
YEARS.
PAT, THAT'S KIND OF A GOOD
PROBLEM TO HAVE.
Pat: THAT IS GREAT
NEWS.
I UNDERSTAND THERE IS A
TREMENDOUS RELIGIOUS
REVIVAL GOING ON IN CUBA.
AND THAT IS ALSO GOOD
NEWS.
Wendy: THANKS, PAT.
UP NEXT, A NEW CHARGE TO
MILLENNIAL CHRISTIANS.
I DON'T THINK GOD HAS
CALLED US TO CHANGE THE
WORLD.
I THINK GOD HAS CALLED US
TO LOVE. EMBRACING THE
ORDINARY, AFTER THIS.
Pat: WE'RE DELIGHTED
TO HAVE YOU WITH US.
THIS IS "THE 700 CLUB."
WENDY GRIFFITH IS WITH ME.
AND WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A
WONDERFUL TIME.
AND WE'RE DOING IT.
LIVE RADICALLY FOR CHRIST.
THAT SOUNDS LIKE A GOOD
MESSAGE, AS CHRISTIANS
WERE SUPPOSED TO CHANGE
THE WORLD.
BUT WHAT HAPPENS WHEN THE
GOSPEL GETS TWISTED INTO A
HIGH PRESSURE FORM OF
LEGALISM?
OUR REPORTER, HEATHER
SELLS, INDICATES THAT SOME
YOUNG CHRISTIANS ARE
GETTING BURNED OUT BY THIS
TREND IN CHRISTIAN
CULTURE.
FOR ME IT ALL STARTED
WITH THE QUESTION, YOU
KNOW, AM I TAKING THE
WORDS OF JESUS SERIOUSLY?
Heather: JONATHAN
HOLLINGSWORTH ANSWERED
THAT QUESTION IN A RADICAL
WAY AS A TEENAGER.
HE BEGAN TO WORK WITH THE
HOMELESS, AND THEN GAVE
AWAY HIS POSSESSIONS AND
FINALLY LEFT COLLEGE TO
PURSUE MISSIONS IN AFRICA.
I WAS TRYING TO PROVE
TO GOD I WAS REALLY
DEDICATED TO HIM.
AND THAT, TO ME, IS SORT
OF WHERE THE LEGALISM
CREPT IN.
BECAUSE TO ME, LEGALISM IS
SORT OF TRYING TO MEASURE
YOUR DEVOTION TO GOD
THROUGH YOUR OUTWARD
BEHAVIOR.
Heather: THIS
PRESSURE TO BE RADICAL IN
ORDER TO BE A GOOD
CHRISTIAN IS BEING
DESCRIBED AS THE NEW
LEGALISM.
IT IS MOST OFTEN FELT BY
YOUNG PEOPLE WHO ARE
LOOKING TO DO SOMETHING
EXTRAORDINARY WITH THEIR
LIVES.
THIS IS A PROBLEM.
THAT WE HAVE GOD'S PEOPLE,
HIS CHILDREN, HIS YOUNG
ADULTS, WHO ARE BURDENED
ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT THEIR
LIVES ARE GOOD ENOUGH FOR
HIM, EXTRAORDINARY ENOUGH
FOR HIM.
Heather: DR. ANTHONY
BRADLEY TEACHES RELIGIOUS
STUDIES AT THE KINGS
COLLEGE IN NEW YORK CITY.
HE IDENTIFIED THE TREND
AFTER NUMEROUS
CONVERSATIONS WITH THE
YOUTH ABOUT THE PRESSURE.
THERE IS A HUGE
MOVEMENT FOR THIS
GENERATION TO MAKE A
DIFFERENCE, TO HAVE AN
IMPACT.
I THINK IT HAS NATURALLY
SEEPED INTO THE CHRISTIAN
WORLD BECAUSE THAT IS JUST
THE CONCEPT YOU'RE
HEARING.
YOU'RE HEARING PEOPLE
STARTING NON-PROFITS AT
16.
I THINK MY BIGGEST FEAR
IS ENDING UP AT AN AVERAGE
JOB, DURING ORDINARY
STUFF.
GROWING UP, I WAS IN AN
EVANGELICAL CULTURE THAT
SAID, YOU'RE GOING TO DO
BIG THINGS FOR GOD.
YOU'RE GOING TO CHANGE THE
WORLD.
YOU HAVE SO MUCH
POTENTIAL.
AND I GOT THIS FROM
LEADERS, FROM MINISTRY
CAMPS IN THE SUMMER, FROM
MY CHURCH.
Heather: BRADLEY SAYS
CHRISTIAN LEADERS HAVE
INADVERTENTLY ENCOURAGED
THE RADICAL MESSAGE BY
CALLING ON YOUNG PEOPLE TO
MAKE A DIFFERENCE AND
CHANGE THE WORLD.
GROWING DISDAIN FOR
AMERICAN SUBURBS IN FAVOR
OF THE INNER CITY HAS ALSO
CONTRIBUTED, AS HAS THE
MISSIONARY CHURCH
MOVEMENT, WHICH ENCOURAGES
PEOPLE TO BE MISSIONARIES
IN THEIR OWN COMMUNITY.
AND THERE IS ALSO THIS
WEIRD PRESSURE INTERNALLY,
BECAUSE OF OUR CULTURE,
THAT I'VE GOT TO BE
AWESOME.
I'VE GOT TO BE AN AMAZING
PERSON.
IT IS RELATED TO THIS
GENERATION'S SORT OF
GENERAL NARCISSISM, THAT
UNLESS MY LIFE IS REALLY,
REALLY AWESOME AND COOL
AND NOTEWORTHY, THAT MY
LIFE MEANS NOTHING.
Heather: JONATHAN
HOLLINGSWORTH DECIDED TO
WRITE A BOOK WITH HIS MOM
ABOUT HOW HE BURNED OUT IN
AFRICA TRYING TO LIVE
RADICALLY.
THEY SAY THE RESPONSE HAS
BEEN OVERWHELMING.
WE REALIZED THAT HIS
STORY WAS THE CREST OF THE
WAVE THAT WAS ABOUT TO
BREAK.
BECAUSE IF YOU LOOK AT THE
RADICAL LITERATURE, IT
TALKS ABOUT SELLING.
IF THEY'VE SOLD MILLIONS
OF COPIES, THAT MEANS
THERE IS HUNDREDS, IF NOT
THOUSANDS, OF YOUNG PEOPLE
TRYING TO FOLLOW THAT
EXAMPLE.
Heather: AND
"RUN-AWAY RADICAL" IS NOT
THE ONLY BOOK TO SOUND THE
ALARM.
IT IS JOINED BY "RADICALLY
NORMAL."
WRITTEN BY THIS PASTOR TO
ADDRESS THE PROBLEM HE SAW
IN THE PEWS.
SO MANY CHRISTIANS FEEL
THIS ALWAYS TRYING TO
PLEASE GOD.
Heather: KELLY HOPES
CHRISTIANS WILL BE
MOTIVATED BY JOY, NOT
GUILT OR SHAME.
BRADLEY WOULD LIKE CHURCH
LEADERS TO GIVE YOUNG
PEOPLE TO PURSUE GOD'S
CALLING, WHETHER OR NOT IT
FITS PRECONCEIVED IDEAS.
IT HAS HELPED JOSH CHANG
TO ACCEPT RECENT FAILINGS
DURING AN OVERLOAD
SEMESTER.
I FELT LIKE GOD SAID,
JOSH, YOU CAN'T DO THAT.
YOU HAVE LIMITATIONS.
YOU'RE HUMAN.
WHAT YOU PERCEIVE TO BE
ORDINARY, WHAT YOU
PERCEIVE TO BE DULL, I CAN
USE FOR MY KINGDOM.
Heather: STUDENT
VINCENT RENDONDO RESPONDED
WITH A THESIS ON WHY HE
THINKS THE CALL TO CHANGE
THE WORLD IS POOR ADVICE.
I DON'T THINK GOD
CALLED US TO CHANGE THE
WORLD.
I THINK GOD CALLED US TO
LOVE.
Heather: AND FOR
JONATHAN, HE HOPES HIS
NEXT STEP WILL BE DRIVEN
NOT BY GUILTY, BUT BY
GRACE.
I DO FEEL THAT THE
PLACE I'M AT NOW, IF I DO
DECIDE TO GO OVERSEAS
AGAIN, IT WILL BE BECAUSE
I WANT TO.
Heather: FOR NOW HE
IS MORE OPEN TO ORDINARY
WAYS OF LIVING OUT JESUS'
CALLING, AND EXPERIENCING
HOW HIS YOLK IS EASY, HIS
BURDEN IS LIGHT.
HEATHER SELLS, CBN NEWS.
Pat: I WAS IN LIVING
IN NEW YORK WHEN I WAS IN
SEMINARY.
AND WHEN I GOD THROUGH,
SOMEBODY SAID, IF JESUS
WAS HERE, HE WOULD BE
GOING INTO THE SLUMS TO
HFTD TMINISTER TO PEOPLE.
AND I SAID, OH, BOY,
THAT'S WHAT I'VE GOT TO
DO.
Wendy: YEAH.
Pat: SO I WOUND UP
TAKING MY FAMILY -- I HAD
A WIFE AND THREE LITTLE
CHILDREN, AND I MAY ADD
THREE LITTLE REDHEAD,
BLUE-EYED CHILDREN.
AND WE WENT INTO AN ALL
BLACK SLUM.
AND WE LIVED IN AN
INTERRACIAL COMMUNE.
I MEAN, IT WAS WILD.
NEXT DOOR TO US WAS A
FORMER HOUSE OF ILL FAME.
THE MADAM HAD BEEN
DELIVERED AND SHE WAS
LIVING OVER WITH US.
IT WAS A CRAZY MESS.
Wendy: AND YOU SOLD
EVERYTHING?
Pat: YEAH.
THAT'S THIS WHOLE RADICAL
STUFF.
I GAVE ALL OF THE MONEY
AWAY, AND COME FOLLOW ME.
THE WHOLE THING.
Wendy: IT WAS A GREAT
EXPERIENCE.
YOU DON'T REGRET ANY OF
THAT?
Pat: NOT A BIT IN THE
WORLD.
BUT I ALSO LEARNED THAT
GOD HAD SOMETHING ELSE.
HE SAID, ARE YOU WILLING
TO GIVE IT ALL UP?
AND I SAID, SURE.
I'VE GOT TO DO THAT.
AND THE LORD HAS HEAPED IT
BACK ON SO MANY TIMES, I
CAN'T DESCRIBE IT.
BUT I WAS IN A COMMUNE
BEFORE COMMUNES WERE COOL.
IT WAS REALLY CRAZY.
Wendy: I CAN RELATE
TO THESE KIDS WANTING TO
DO SOMETHING GREAT.
WE ALL LOVE MOUNTAINTOP
EXPERIENCES.
BUT SO OFTEN I HEAR THE
LORD SAY, FOLLOW ME.
FOLLOW ME.
AND I THINK THAT'S WHAT
THESE KIDS ARE FINDING
OUT.
Pat: WHAT HE HAS IS
SO GREAT.
BUT WE DON'T QUITE KNOW
WHAT TO DO.
I THINK IT IS THE
DEDICATION.
THE LORD SAYS, SELL WHAT
YOU HAVE AND COME FOLLOW
ME.
COME FOLLOW ME.
AND SO THESE KIDS WHO WANT
TO FOLLOW THE LORD, IT'S
OKAY.
BUT GOD WILL SHOW THEM
AFTER A WHILE, I'VE GOT
SOMETHING ELSE FOR YOU.
I KNOW WHAT IT WAS LIKE.
Wendy: IT'S THE
JOURNEY, RIGHT?
IT'S THE JOURNEY.
Pat: I SOLD
EVERYTHING I HAD, TOOK A
LITTLE BIT OF MONEY AND
GAVE THE MONEY TO THE POOR
PEOPLE.
WENT TO LIVE IN A COMMUNE
WITH MY WIFE AND KIDS.
MY WIFE AND I LIVED IN ONE
AND A HALF BEDROOMS WITH
FIVE OF US.
Wendy: FIVE OF YOU?
Pat: YEAH.
IT WAS CRAZY.
THE WHOLE THING WAS CRAZY.
Wendy: WELL, SHOUT IT
FROM THE HOUSE TOPS, YOUR
BOOK HAS ALL OF THE JUICY
DETAILS.
IF YOU WANT TO KNOW
EVERYTHING THAT HAPPENED
TO PAT DURING THOSE TIMES,
"SHOUT IT FROM THE HOUSE
TOP."
Pat: THERE IS NOTHING
WRONG WITH THAT.
BUT KIDS HAVE GOT TO
UNDERSTAND THAT THEY DON'T
HAVE TO -- SOONER OR LATER
GOD WILL LEAD YOU OUT OF
THAT STUFF.
THE QUESTION IS: ARE YOU
WILLING?
ARE YOU WILLING TO FOLLOW
ME?
AND THE LORD SAYS, PICK UP
YOUR CROSS DAILY AND COME
FOLLOW ME.
WE DID IT.
Wendy: AND HERE WE
ARE.
Pat: AND HERE I AM
SITTING ON A TELEVISION
SET TALKING ABOUT JESUS TO
MILLIONS OF PEOPLE.
WENDY?
Wendy: AMAZING STORY.
> COMING UP, A MOM WHO
IS TRYING TO FILL SOME
AWFULLY BIG SHOES, AND IS
GETTING A FEW BLISTERS
ALONG THE WAY.
I THOUGHT, YOU KNOW
WHAT?
THAT'S WHAT I'M GOING TO
DO.
THE BOOTS WILL BECOME MY
SOLIDARITY WITH MY SON.
WE GOT AT THE STARTING
LINE AND WE TOOK OFF.
Wendy: HEAR HOW THIS
MILITARY MOM IS HONORING
THE FALLEN DURING THE
"IRON WE COME BACK.
Pat: WELL, IF YOU
HAVEN'T NOTICED IT, THE
SCORCHING TEMPERATURES
OVER THE LAST FEW DAYS,
SUMMER IS HERE.
AND IN ONE WEEK AMERICANS
WILL BREAK OUT THE
BARBECUES AND THE
FIREWORKS TO CELEBRATE THE
FOURTH OF JULY.
HOW MANY PEOPLE ACTUALLY
KNOW ABOUT OUR NATION'S
INDEPENDENCE DAY?
SO WE WENT OUT TO FIND
OUT.
SCOTT ROSS HIT THE
STREETS.
Reporter: ANOTHER
HOLIDAY COMING UP THAT THE
WHOLE NATION IS GOING TO
CELEBRATE IT.
MEMORIAL DAY.
THAT HAPPENED IN MAY.
WHAT'S TODAY?
FATHER'S DAY.
I DON'T KNOW.
FOURTH OF JULY.
MY BIRTHDAY.
Reporter: WE'VE GOT
IT ALL AT ONE TIME.
MY BIRTHDAY IS IN THREE
DAYS.
Reporter: OH, HAPPY
BIRTHDAY.
FOURTH OF JULY.
Reporter: WHAT'S IT
BASED ON?
OUR NATION'S FREEDOM.
WE SIGNED THE
DECLARATION OF
INDEPENDENCE.
Reporter: DO YOU
REMEMBER WHAT YEAR THAT
WAS?
1776.
Reporter: WHAT DOES
THAT MEAN FOR YOU?
A BIG CELEBRATION WITH
FAMILY AND FRIENDS AND
CELEBRATING OUR
INDEPENDENCE.
Reporter: DO YOU
THINK THIS COUNTRY IS
PLEDGING ALLEGIANCE TO
AMERICA BASED ON THE
PREMISE IT WAS A COUNTRY
THAT GOD ESTABLISHED?
I THINK IT DEPENDS ON
THE PERSON, BUT PROBABLY
AS A NATION, OVERALL,
PROBABLY NOT.
A LOT OF PEOPLE IN
THEIR OWN INDIVIDUAL WAY,
MAYBE, BUT AS A NATION, I
THINK WE'VE GOTTEN AWAY
FROM THAT A LITTLE BIT.
Reporter: YEAH, A
LITTLE BIT.
A LOT OF BIT.
Reporter: WHAT ARE WE
COMMEMORATING?
INDEPENDENCE FROM,
WELL, BRITAIN, AND THE
COUNTIES BECOMING
INDEPENDENT.
ESPECIALLY THIS AREA.
JUST FREEDOM FROM -- I
DON'T KNOW.
JUST FREEDOM IN GENERAL.
Reporter: WHAT DOES
THE FOURTH OF JULY
COMMEMORATE?
INDEPENDENCE DAY.
Reporter:
INDEPENDENCE FROM?
BRITAIN.
Reporter: YOU STAYED
AWAKE IN HISTORY CLASS.
A LITTLE BIT.
Pat: WE HAVE A
DECLARATION OF
INDEPENDENCE.
AND JOHN ADAMS, WHO HELPED
DRAFT SOME OF THOSE EARLY
DOCUMENTS, SAID THIS WILL
BE A DAY WHEN AMERICANS
WILL HAVE PARADES AND
THEY'LL HAVE FIREWORKS AND
THEY'LL HAVE CELEBRATIONS
AND THEY'LL HAVE SPEECHES.
THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT WE
HAVE.
IT WASN'T CONSIDERED A
RELIGIOUS HOLIDAY.
IT WAS A HOLIDAY -- I
REMEMBER I WAS IN FRANCE,
AND THEY HAVE BASTILLE DAY
OVER THERE.
AND WE THE FOURTH OF JULY.
Wendy: IT IS A
BELOVED AMERICAN
TRADITION, FOR SURE.
Pat: IT IS.
BUT WE DECLARED OUR
INDEPENDENCE FROM GREAT
BRITAIN.
Wendy: AND NOW
THEY'RE ONE OF OUR BEST
FRIENDS.
Pat: OF COURSE.
Wendy: YOU'VE HEARD
THE EXPRESSION "WALK A
MILE IN THEIR SHOES."
WELL, WHEN IT COMES TO
SALUTING THE MEN AND WOMEN
OF OUR ARMED FORCES, AMY
COTTA DOES MORE THAN THAT.
SHE HAS RUN THOUSANDS OF
MILES, PLUS SWAM AND
BIKED, ALL WHILE WEARING
HER COMBAT BOOTS.
TAKE A LOOK.
TYLER -- I ALWAYS KIND
OF KNEW HE WAS GOING TO GO
INTO THE MILITARY.
BUT ONE DAY HIS SENIOR
YEAR, HE CAME IN THE HOUSE
AND HE SAID, MOM, I'M
GOING TO JOIN THE MARINES.
I WANT YOU TO GO DOWN TO
THE RECRUITER'S OFFICE AND
SIGN ME UP.
HE WAS 17 AT THE TIME.
HE VOLUNTEERED TO GO
EARLY.
THERE WAS NO TIME TO
PROCESS BECAUSE NOW YOU'RE
NOT GOING TO SEE OR TALK
TO YOUR CHILD FOR 12 TO 13
WEEKS.
I FELTDEPRESSION
COMING ON, BUT IT REALLY
DIDN'T HIT UNTIL HE LEFT.
I REMEMBER TELLING MY
HUSBAND, I CAN'T LIVE LIKE
THIS.
I CAN'T WALK AROUND BEING
THIS WORRIED AND THIS
DEPRESSED.
I MAY HAVE TO GO GET HELP.
I REMEMBER THAT MY BOOTS
THAT I HAD GOTTEN FROM THE
BOOT CAMPAIGN WERE SITTING
AND MY CLOSET.
THE WHOLE PURPOSE BEHIND
THEIR MISSION IS TO GET
CIVILIANS IN THE BOOTS AS
A SHOW OF PATRIOTISM.
I THOUGHT, YOU KNOW WHAT?
THAT'S WHAT I'M GOING TO
DO.
THOSE BOOTS ARE GOING TO
BECOME MY SOLIDARITY WITH
MY SON.
I SIGNED UP FOR A HALF
MARATHON, AND I HAD THE
COMBAT BOOTS ON.
AND WE GOT AT THE STARTING
LINE, AND WE TOOK OFF.
DEPRESSION STARTED FALLING
OFF WITH EVERY STEP THAT I
TOOK.
IT WAS LIKE ARMOR BEING
TOSSED OFF ME.
IT WAS LIKE THE PAIN WAS
JUST PEELING AWAY.
ABOUT MILE 10 MY BODY
REMINDED ME WHY I WASN'T A
RUNNER.
MY KNEES STARTED HURTING.
WITH EVERY STEP I'M JUST
IN EXCRUCIATING PAIN.
AND I MADE IT.
WHEN I GOT ACROSS THE
FINISH LINE, I FELL INTO
THE ARMS OF THE ANNOUNCER,
AND HE ANNOUNCED TO THE
CROWD THAT I WAS THERE FOR
MY SON.
THERE WAS PEACE AND
HAPPINESS IN THAT PLACE.
I HAD CONNECTED WITH ONE
OF THE MOMS OF ONE OF THE
GUYS ON MY PACK.
AND SHE HAD TOLD ME THAT
IT WAS HIS DREAM TO ALWAYS
DO AN IRON MAN SOME DAY.
SO I TOLD HER, I'M GOING
TO GET ANTHONY ACROSS THE
FINISH LINE.
AND I COULDN'T SWIM.
I COULDN'T PUT MY FACE IN
THE WATER.
I WOULD, LIKE, HYPE
HYPERVENTILATE.
AND I HEARD GOD'S WORDS,
GET UNCOMFORTABLE.
WHEN I DID NOT FINISH THE
SWIM AT THAT FIRST IRON
MAN, THE PAIN WAS
UNBEARABLE.
AND IT WAS NOT MY PAIN.
IT WASN'T MY EGO.
I WAS RAISING MONEY FOR
THE BOOT CAMPAIGN.
I HAD PEOPLE FROM THE
ORGANIZATION THERE.
I HAD PEOPLE THAT
SPONSORED MONEY TO HELP
GET ME THERE.
AND THEN I HAD MY GUYS.
AND I HAD ANTHONY AND I
HAD HIS MOM.
AND LETTING THEM DOWN WAS
SO PAINFUL.
I RACED ANOTHE IN ANOTHER IRON
MAN.
AND I SAID, GOD, YOU WOULD
NOT HAVE PUT THIS IN MY
HEART TO DO IT IF YOU
DIDN'T ALSO GIVE ME THE
ABILITY TO DO IT.
AND I JUST WENT.
AND THE COOL THING IS THAT
I SANG TO MYSELF AND TO
HIM ALL OF THE WAY.
AND THE SAME THING ON THE
BIKE.
AND THE SAME THING ON THE
RUN.
WE DID ALL 140.6 MILES
UNDER MIDNIGHT.
WE GOT TO THE FINISH LINE
AT 11:45, BUT I GOT MY
GUYS TO THE FINISH LINE.
AND IRON MAN WAS NICE
ENOUGH TO GO AHEAD AND
GIVE ME A FINISHER'S
MEDAL.
NOT FOR ME TO KEEP.
I SENT THAT TO ANTHONY'S
MOM.
AND I REMEMBER I WAS
SITTING AT MY DESK, AND I
THOUGHT, YOU KNOW, I'D
REALLY LIKE TO SEND
ANOTHER MEDAL.
SO I PUT UP ON Facebook,
I WOULD LIKE TO BE ABLE TO
SEND MY FRIEND A MEDAL FOR
HER BROTHER.
NOW, THESE RACE MEDALS ARE
LIKE OLYMPIC GOLD MEDALS
TO IRON MEN.
I DIDN'T EXPECT TO GET A
SINGLE MEDAL.
WITHIN TWO HOURS, I HAD
ENOUGH MEDALS FOR ALL 21
FALLEN ON MY PACK.
AND THAT'S HOW MY
ORGANIZATION, "MEDALS OF
HONOR," STARTED.
THERE IS SOMETHING THAT
ALL MILITARY FAMILIES
SHARE.
AND THOSE FEARS ARE THAT
WE LOSE OUR LOVED ONES IN
WAR, AND THAT THEIR MEMORY
AND THEIR SACRIFICE, AND
WORSE YET THEIR LIFE, WILL
BE FORGOTTEN.
IT MAY LOOK SMALL IN
SCALE, IT MAY LOOK HUGE IN
SCALE, BUT IT IS NOT UNTIL
WE EITHER QUIET IT DOWN,
SLOW IT DOWN, OR
SOMETIMES, UNFORTUNATELY,
WE HAVE TO HIT A WALL FOR
USTO STOP AND GO, WHAT IS
IT THAT I'M SUPPOSED TO BE
DOING.
LET GO AND LET GOD.
Wendy: WHAT AN
AMAZING STORY.
WHAT A HUGE HEART SHE HAS,
PAT.
Pat: REMARKABLE.
Wendy: I LIKE HER
BOOTS.
I WANT THOSE BOOTS.
Pat: I WOULD PREFER
TO HAVE RUNNING SHOES.
Wendy: BUT SHE IS
BRINGING A LOT OF HOPE AND
HEALING.
Pat: SHE IS AN
AMAZING WOMAN.
THAT'S GREAT.
Wendy: IRON MAN, WOW,
THAT'S TOUGH.
STILL AHEAD, AN END OF
WEEK EDITION OF "BRING IT
ON."
THIS ONE SAYS, "I HAVE
ALWAYS BELIEVED IN GOD,
BUT WHEN I PRAYER, I NEVER
FEEL THE LOVE OF THE LORD.
IS SOMETHING WRONG WITH
ME?"
YOUR QUESTIONS ARE RIGHT
AROUND THE CORNER, SO STAY
TUNED.
Efrem: AND WELCOME
BACK TO "THE 700 CLUB."
A KANSAS JUDGE HAS
TEMPORARILY BLOCKED THE
STATE'S BAN ON ABORTIONS
IN THE SECOND TRIMESTER OF
TRADINGS.
THE CENTER FOR
REPRODUCTIVE RIGHTS SUED,
ARGUING THE LAW WOULD
FORCE WOMEN TO UNDERGO
RISKIER PROCEDURES OR
FOREGO ABORTIONS.
THE JUDGE'S ORDER TO BLOCK
THE BAN WILL STAY IN
EFFECT WHILE HE CONSIDERS
THE LAWSUIT FURTHER.
ANTI-ABORTION ACTIVISTS
WERE DISAPPOINTED AT THE
RULING, BUT SAY THEY ARE
NOT DEFEATED.
WE BELIEVE THAT
ULTIMATELY THIS LAW WILL
STAND BECAUSE THIS LAW IS
CONSTITUTIONAL, THAT WE'RE
ON FIRM SOLID GROUND, THAT
THE UNITED STATES SUPREME
COURT HAS TOLD US WE'RE ON
FIRM SOLID GROUND.
THAT WE CAN TAKE AN
INTEREST IN THE -- A
PROFOUND INTEREST IN THE
LIFE OF THE UNBORN.
Efrem: SECOND
TRIMESTER PROCEDURES HAVE
BEEN DUBBED DISMEMBERMENT
ABORTIONS.
> "OPERATION BLESSING"
IS HELPING TO FEED THE
HUNGRY IN TEXAS.
THIS YEAR'S TRIP INCLUDED
HUNGER RELIEF AND
CHILDREN'S PROGRAMS.
THEY DID SOME MAINTENANCE
ON A LOCAL BASEBALL FIELD
THAT SERVES STRUGGLING
FAMILIES, PREPARING THE
FIELD FOR THE SUMMER.
AND VOLUNTEERS SURPRISED
FAMILIES WITH BOXES OF
FOOD, HYGIENE ITEMS AND
OTHER HOUSEHOLD SUPPLIES.
IMPACT TRIPS ARE DESIGNED
TO GIVE VOLUNTEERS A TASTE
OF WHAT "OPERATION
BLESSING" DOES TO
ALLEVIATE HUMAN SUFFERING
HERE IN THE U.S.
YOU CAN FIND OUT MORE
ABOUT "OPERATION BLESSING"
BY GOING TO ITS WEBSITE
AT ob.org.
PAT AND WENDY ARE BACK
WITH MORE OF "THE 700
CLUB" RIGHT AFTER THIS.
Wendy: WELCOME BACK
TO "THE 700 CLUB."
IT IS FRIDAY, AND IT IS
TIME FOR YOUR E-MAIL
QUESTIONS.
AND, PAT, ARE YOU READY?
Pat: LET'S "BRING IT
ON."
Wendy: MARIO SAYS,
"I'VE ALWAYS LOVED AND
ACCEPTED JESUS.
AND I BELIEVE IN HIM AND
PRAY TO HIM EVERY DAY.
BUT I ALMOST NEVER FEEL
THE LOVE OF GOD.
AND WHEN I PRAY, I ALWAYS
GET A SENSE THAT SOMETHING
WANTS ME TO NOT BELIEVE.
I WILL ALWAYS BELIEVE, BUT
THIS MAKES ME FEARFUL THAT
I DON'T BELIEVE IN GOD,
BUT I DO.
I ALWAYS HEAR IF I DON'T
FEEL GOD'S LOVE, IT IS
JUST A DRY SEASON.
PLEASE, I NEED QUICK
HELP."
Pat: ALL RIGHT,
MARIO, FIRST OF ALL IT
ISN'T FEELING THAT DOES
IT; IT IS FAITH.
YOU NEED TO DECLARE THE
PROMISES OF GOD.
BUT I WOULD ASK YOU THIS:
IS THERE SOME SIN IN YOUR
LIFE?
IS THERE SOMETHING THAT
YOU'RE HOLDING ON TO?
HAS GOD SPOKEN TO YOU
ABOUT SOMETHING AND YOU
REFUSE TO DO IT?
THERE IS A PSALM WRITTEN
BY DAVID, AND HE SAID,
RESTORE UNTO ME THE JOY OF
YOUR SALVATION, AND TAKE
NOT YOUR HOLY SPIRIT FROM
ME.
DAVID HAD THE HOLY SPIRIT,
EVEN THOUGH HE COMMITTED
ADULTERY AND MURDER.
BUT THE JOY HAD LEFT.
SO IN YOUR CASE, ASK
YOURSELF, IS THERE
SOMETHING THERE?
AND IF THERE IS NOT, IF
THERE IS, CONFESS IT AND
PUT IT AWAY.
IF THERE IS NOT, THEN
BEGIN TO CONCENTRATE ON
THE PROMISES OF GOD.
DON'T CONCENTRATE ON THE
FEELING.
CONCENTRATE ON JESUS.
AND TELL HIM HOW MUCH YOU
LOVE HIM.
AND JUST SPEND TIME
WORSHIPPING HIM.
AND OUT OF THAT WILL COME
THE JOY.
Wendy: AMEN.
THIS VIEWER SAYS, "DEAR
PAT, I RECENTLY RECEIVED
MONEY THROUGH AN
INHERITANCE.
BEFORE I SHARE IT BETWEEN
MY TWO DAUGHTERS, I WOULD
LIKE TO GIVE THE LORD THE
FIRST PORTION.
WOULD THAT BE 10% OF THE
ENTIRE AMOUNT?
SHOULD I HAVE MY BANK
ISSUE M THE FIRST CHECK?"
Pat: IF YOU WANT TO
TITHE 10% OF YOUR
INHERITANCE, THAT WOULD BE
A GOOD TITHE AND THE LORD
WILL BLESS IT.
YOU DON'T HAVE TO TALK
WITH YOUR DAUGHTERS OR
TALK TO ANYBODY ELSE.
IF YOU GET $100,000, YOU
WRITE A CHECK TO $10,000
AND GIVE IT TO WHATEVER
CHARITY YOU WANT TO.
AND THEN THE REST OF IT IS
YOURS.
DO WHAT YOU WISH WITH IT.
Wendy: AMEN.
VICTORIA SAYS 15 YEARS
AGO, I HAD BEEN MARRIED 21
YEARS TO AN ABUSIVE CLICK.
HE WAS A SCIENTIST,
ANIARYANIARYENGINEER,ANENGINEER, BUT AT HOME A
DRUNK.
I BROUGHT OUR KIDS UP
PRESBYTERIAN BY MYSELF.
DUE TO ALL I LEARN FROM
YOUR "THE 700 CLUB,"
IIERAIYEARN FOR A HUSBAND TO
SHARE WITH.
I'M 61, AND I'VE FOUND
CHRISTIAN MINGLE TO BE
LIKE ALL OTHER DATING
SITES.
I'M ASKING YOU WITH FULL
SINCERITY TO PLEASE FOUND
A CHRISTIAN DATING SITE
FOR THOSE WHO ABSTAIN FROM
SEX UNTIL MARRIAGE.
IT'S IMPERATIVE."
DO NOT LAUGH, PAT.
Pat: I JUST THINK AT
MY AGE AND MY TIME IN
LIFE, I'M NOT ABOUT TO
START A CHRISTIAN DATING
SITE.
BUT IN YOUR CASE,
APPARENTLY YOU WERE
MARRIED.
THEN YOU WERE SEPARATED.
AND DURING THAT PERIOD OF
TIME YOU WERE TIME YOU
WERE, QUOTE,"SEXUALLY
ACTIVE."
AND ALL OF A SUDDEN OUT OF
THAT SEXUAL ACTIVITY, YOU
SAID I SHOULDN'T DO THIS
ANYMORE.
AND SO FOR THE LAST FOUR
YEARS YOU HAVE ABSTAINED.
AND NOW YOU KIND OF HAVE
URGES.
FORGET THE DATING SITE.
JUST ASK GOD TO SEND YOU
THE APPROPRIATE HUSBAND.
YOU'RE LOOKING FOR A
HUSBAND.
AND SEE WHAT CAN HAPPEN.
YOU APPARENTLY HAVE URGES
THAT ARE GETTING THE
BETTER OF YOU.
FROM WHAT I GATHER, YOUR
UNBELIEVING HUSBAND HAS
GONE AWAY SOMEWHERE.
YOU DIDN'T TELL ME WHAT
HAPPENED TO HIM.
THE BIBLE SAYS IF THE
UNBELIEVER IS PLEASED TO
DEPART, LET HIM DEPART.
YOU'RE NOT BOUND.
YOU CAN GET MARRIED AGAIN
IF YOU WANT TO.
GOD HAS SOMEBODY FOR YOU.
Wendy: GOD SAYS HE
GIVES US THE DESIRES OF
OUR HEART.
SOMETIMES WE HAVE TO WAIT
FOR HIS BEST.
JUST STAY IN FAITH, AND
GOD WILL ANSWER YOUR
PRAYER.
Pat: I DON'T THINK I
HAVE TO START A CHRISTIAN
DATING SITE TO GET YOU A
MAN.
YOU'LL FIND ONE.
Wendy: BUT WE'LL
PRAYER FOR YOU.
PAT AND I WILL BELIEVE GOD
HE IS SENDING SOMEONE.
> MIRA SAYS IN EXODUS,
GOD INSTRUCTED MOSES AS TO
HOW TO MAKE THE ANOINTING
OIL TO BE USED ON THE
PRIEST.
GOD SAID IF ANYONE
DUPLICATES THIS OIL, THEY
WILL BE CURSED.
I'VE PURCHASED OIL THAT I
USE WHEN I PRAY FOR
PEOPLE.
THE PERSON SAYSS THE BIBLE SAYS WE ARE
PRIESTS FOREVER.
WHAT IS YOUR TAKE ON
THIS?"
Pat: IF ANYBODY TRIES
TO RECREATE THAT ANOINTING
OIL, THEY WILL BE CURSED
BY GOD.
IF I WERE YOU, I WOULDN'T
DO IT.
JUST USE SOME PLAIN OLD
OLIVE OIL.
DON'T TRY TO TAKE UP THAT
FORMULA USED BY THOSE
PRIESTS.
Wendy: I HAD NEVER
HEARD THAT SCRIPTURE
BEFORE.
I LIKE TO BUY ANOINTING
OIL IF I'M OVERSEAS --
Pat: BUT IF IT IS
THAT SAME FORMULA -- IT IS
A DREADFUL WARNING.
Wendy: OLIVE OIL IS
THE WAY IT IS.
Pat: ALL RIGHT.
Wendy: THANKS, PAT.
GREAT ANSWERS, AS ALWAYS.
WE APPRECIATE IT.
> UP NEXT, A WOMAN WHO
HATED BEING ONE.
I DON'T WANT NOTHING TO
DO WITH IT.
IF THAT FEMININE SIDE WAS
OUT THERE, IT WOULD BE
HURT AGAIN.
Wendy: HEAR THE
QUESTION THAT ANSWERED HER
IDENTITY CRISIS, NEXT.
Pat: RECENTLY
Facebook ANNOUNCED THAT
IT WAS EXPANDING ITS
GENDER OPTIONS FROM JUST
MALE AND FEMALE TO INCLUDE
AT LEAST -- IF YOU CAN
BELIEVE IT -- 50 OTHER
CHOICES.
AN ICONIC SPORTSMAN IS
BEING HONORED FOR BECOMING
A WOMAN.
THE PICTURE IS ON "VANITY
FAIR."
OUR CULTURE HAS BECOME
ACCEPTANCE OF ALTERNATE
LIFESTYLES.
AND AUDRA AUSTIN WENT DOWN
THAT ROAD, AND IT NEARLY
LED TO HER SUICIDE.
WATCH THIS.
Reporter: AUDRA
AUSTIN HATED BEING FEMALE.
THAT FEELING EMERGED WHEN
SHE WAS A LITTLE GIRL
AFTER SHE WAS MOLESTED BY
A WOMAN IN HER FAMILY.
I SAW FEMININITY AS A
WEAKNESS, AND REALLY
ALMOST AFRAID OF MYSELF.
IF THAT FEMININE SIDE WAS
OUT THERE, THAT IT WOULD
BE HURT AGAIN.
Reporter: AT AGE 11
HER PARENTS DIVORCED, AND
THE WAR AGAINST HER
IDENTITY RAGED ON.
AUDRA SAYS HER
STEPFATHER'S ABUSIVE
BEHAVIOR REINFORCED HER
FEARS.
HE WOULD EVEN TAKE THE
BIBLE AND HE WOULD TELL
ME, WOMEN ARE MADE FROM
THE RIB OF ADAM, SO YOU'RE
LESS THAN.
I LOVE MY MOM, BUT MY MOM
IS ALLOWING THIS MAN TO DO
THESE THINGS.
IF THAT IS WHAT BEING
FEMALE IS, IF BEING FEMALE
MEANS BEING WITH A GUY
THAT IS GOING TO TELL YOU
YOU'RE SUB HUMAN BECAUSE
YOU'RE A WOMAN, I DON'T
WANT NOTHING TO DO WITH
IT.
Reporter: THROUGHOUT
HER CHILDHOOD, SHE USED
ALCOHOL AND DRUGS TO NUMB
THE PAIN.
BY THE TIME SHE WAS IN
HIGH SCHOOL, AUDRA HAD
REJECTED BEING FEMININE.
I BECAME MUCH MORE
MASCULINE LOOKING.
I WORE EVERYTHING THAT IS
MEN'S CLOTHES, EVEN DOWN
TO MEN'S UNDERWEAR.
Reporter: AT 19, SHE
STARTED DATING AN OLDER
WOMAN.
THE GAY LIFESTYLE FOR
ME WAS MORE ABOUT LOVE AND
ACCEPTANCE.
THERE WAS A LOT OF
EMBRACING YOU AS YOU ARE.
HOWEVER, THERE WAS A LOT
OF MISERY.
Reporter: FOR THE
NEXT 10 YEARS, SHE LOOKED
FOR LOVE IN RELATIONSHIPS,
BUT NONE OF THEM LASTED.
SHE WAS DEEPLY DEPRESSED
AND ATTEMPTED SUICIDE
SEVERAL TIMES.
EVERY DAY AT WORK, A
CCOWORKER WOULD TELL AUDRA
ABOUT JESUS.
I WAS ONE OF THE MEAN
PEOPLE.
ONE TIME I FLIPPED HIM
OFF.
HE SAID, I KIND OF TOLD
YOU ALL I COULD TELL YOU.
THERE IS A LADY YOU NEED
TO TALK TO.
Reporter: HE GAVE HER
THE NUMBER OF A WOMAN FROM
HIS CHURCH.
HE SAID SHE WAS A
PROPHET.
AND MY IDEA OF A PROPHET
WAS, IT IS A FORTUNE
TELLER.
SO I DROVE THERE AND
PULLED OUT MY CIGARETTE,
AND I STORMED UP TO THE
DOOR.
AND THIS LITTLE PETITE
LADY OPENS THE DOOR TO HER
HOME.
SHE WAS VERY SOFT-SPOKEN,
AND SHE INVITES ME IN.
I REMEMBER SHE HAD A
LITTLE GLASS HORSE ON HER
COFFEE TABLE.
AND I WAS, LIKE, WOW,
THAT'S NICE.
AND SHE GOES, YOU LIKE IT?
YOU CAN HAVE IT.
I WAS, LIKE, REALLY?
Reporter: THE KIND
GESTURE LED AUDRA TO LET
HER GUARD DOWN.
AND THE WOMAN ASKED HER A
QUESTION SHE WASN'T
EXPECTING.
NO ONE EVER ASKED ME,
WHY DO YOU THINK YOU'RE
LIKE YOU ARE?
AND WHEN SHE ASKED ME THAT
QUESTION, I COULD NOT
ANSWER.
I REMEMBER SOBBING AND
LITERALLY TELLING HER, I
DON'T KNOW.
I DON'T KNOW.
AND THAT WAS THE MOMENT
THAT SHE OPENED UP A
BIBLE.
Reporter: THE WOMAN
TOLD AUDRA ABOUT A NEW
KIND OF RELATIONSHIP.
THE STATE THAT I WAS
LIVING IN, I WAS IN A
SINFUL STATE.
I WAS SEPARATED FROM GOD.
AND THAT GOD LOVED ME
ENOUGH TO PURSUE ME.
TO ME, LOVE WAS A BAD WORD
BECAUSE OF ALL OF THE
THINGS I HAD EXPERIENCED.
SO THIS GOD THAT LOVED ME
GAVE ME HOPE THAT I COULD
BE LOVED, YOU KNOW, THAT I
COULD BE WORTH LOVING.
I FINALLY FELT MYSELF --
LIKE THIS INSIDE JUST
FINALLY SURRENDERING.
AND SAYING, JESUS, I MADE
A MESS OF MY LIFE.
PLEASE TAKE IT AND DO
SOMETHING WITH IT.
AND THAT WAS THE BEGINNING
OF MY JOURNEY.
Reporter: AUDRA
BECAME CONFIDENT WHEN HER
OWN FEMININE STYLE.
SHE LOST HER DESIRE FOR
DRUGS AND ALCOHOL, BUT SHE
STILL STRUGGLED WITH
SAME-SEX ATTRACTION.
BUT, GOD, I DON'T EVEN
LIKE MEN.
THEY REPULSE ME.
AND THEN I STOPPED.
AND I WAS, LIKE, GOD, I
JUST WANT TO KNOW YOU.
I REMEMBER SAYING, I
CHOOSE YOU.
Reporter: OVER TIME,
SHE NOTICED A CHANGE.
FOUR YEARS AFTER THAT,
I CLEARLY REMEMBER THE DAY
THAT SOMEONE WALKED PAST
ME -- THIS MAN WALKED PAST
ME WITH THIS AFTERSHAVE,
AND I WAS, LIKE, HEY THAT
SMELLS GOOD.
I REMEMBER THE DAY WHERE
GOD DID A WORK IN ME WHERE
I WAS NOW PHYSICALLY
ATTRACTED TO THE OPPOSITE
SEX.
Reporter: SHE IS
LOOKING FORWARD TO
STARTING A FAMILY WITH HER
HUSBAND, ROY.
HE IS MY BIG TEDDY
BEAR.
I FEEL SAFE AND SECURE
WHEN I'M AROUND HIM.
AND HE COMPLIMENTS ME.
THERE IS HOPE.
JESUS IS THE WAY OUT.
IF YOU WANT TO COME OUT OF
THE GAY LIFESTYLE, JESUS
IS THE WAY OUT.
AND I WANTED OUT.
AND HE WAS MY WAY.
AND HE IS THE WAY, THE
TRUTH, AND THE LIFE.
Pat: YOU KNOW,
HAPPINESS IS WHAT GOD HAS.
I'VE SAID ON THIS PROGRAM
BEFORE THAT IF SOMEBODY
HONESTLY, REALLY, DEEP IN
THEIR HEART FEELS FROM
EMOTIONS, FROM GLANDS,
FROM VARIOUS THINGS GOING
ON IN YOUR BODY THAT YOU,
INDEED, ARE A WOMAN
TRAPPED IN A MAN'S BODY
AND SO FORTH, WELL, OKAY.
I, FOR ONE, DON'T SEE
ANYTHING PARTICULARLY
SINFUL ABOUT ESTABLISHING
YOUR PROPER IDENTITY.
BUT IN AUDRA'S CASE, SHE
WAS A WOMAN AND SHE HAD
BEEN MOLESTED.
SO THE MOLESTATION BY A
WOMAN MADE HER THINK THAT
SOMEHOW SHE WAS A LESBIAN.
AND OVER THE YEARS SHE HAD
THAT REINFORCED.
IT WASN'T THAT SHE HAD TO
BECOME A MAN, NOR WAS IT
THE FACT THAT SHE, INDEED,
WAS A LESBIAN.
WHAT SHE WAS WAS SOMEBODY
WHO HAD BEEN DEEPLY
SCARRED.
AND SHE NEEDED TO KNOW ONE
THING, AND THAT WAS THAT
GOD ALMIGHTY LOVES HER.
AND THAT'S MORE IMPORTANT
THAN ANYTHING ELSE.
IT IS MORE IMPORTANT THEY
MALE TO MALE OR FEMALE TO
MA'AM ANFEMALE AND ALL OF THESE
COMBINATIONS.
THERE IS ONE THING MORE
IMPORTANT: GOD ALMIGHTY
LOVES YOU.
AND WE ARE SPIRITS.
WE'RE BODY, SOUL, AND
SPIRIT.
AND THE BODY IS NOT AS
IMPORTANT AS WE MAKE IT.
WE SPEND ALL OF THIS TIME
WORRYING ABOUT WHAT IS THE
SEX AND HOW DO WE DO SEX,
AND WHO IS DOING SEX WITH
WHOM, AND LEGEND BILLION LGBT, AND ALL OF
THIS OTHER STUFF, AND IT
DOESN'T MAKE ANY
DIFFERENCE.
WHAT MATTERS IS A SPIRIT.
YOU HAVE A SPIRIT THAT IS
MADE IN THE IMAGE OF GOD.
AND THAT SPIRIT IS CRYING
OUT.
AND GOD SAYS, I LOVE YOU.
AND IF YOU'LL TURN YOUR
LIFE OVER TO ME, I'LL GIVE
YOU A WHOLE NEW IDENTITY.
KEEP ONE THING IN MIND:
THE TIME WILL COME WHEN
ALL OF US WILL DIE.
EVERY ONE OF US.
THAT IS THE END.
EVERYBODY WILL DIE.
AND AFTER THAT, THE
JUDGMENT.
IT IS APPOINTED UNTO MAN
ONES TO DIE, AND AFTER
THAT THE JUDGMENT.
SO WE'LL ALL DIE.
AND ONCE WE DIE, OUR
SPIRITS WILL BE LIKE THE
ANGELS.
AND ALL OF THE BUSINESS OF
SEX WILL NOT BE THERE
ANYMORE BECAUSE WE WILL NO
LONGER BE IN A
REPRODUCTIVE STATE.
WE'LL BE LIKE THE ANGELS.
NOW, I ASK YOU RIGHT NOW,
DO YOU WANT LOVE?
AND IF YOU WANT REAL LOVE,
PRAY WITH ME NOW.
AND THE LORD WILL GIVE YOU
THE LOVE YOU ARE LOOKING
FOR.
PRAY THESE WORDS: JESUS, I
ASK FOR YOUR LOVE.
YOU KNOW THE MISTAKES I'VE
MADE.
YOU KNOW WHAT HAS BEEN
DONE TO ME.
BUT, GOD, I WANT YOUR
LOVE.
PLEASE COME IN NOW.
FILL ME WITH YOURSELF.
AT THIS MOMENT, GIVE ME
RELEASE.
AND GIVE ME LOVE.
IN JESUS' NAME.
AMEN.
AND AMEN.
IF YOU PRAYED WITH ME,
PLEASE CALL.
THE NUMBER IS ON YOUR
SCREEN.
WE LEAVE YOU WITH TODAY'S
POWER MINUTE FROM PSALM
34: "THE ANGEL OF THE LORD
ENCAMPS ALL AROUND THOSE
WHO FEAR HIM AND DELIVERS
THEM."
HAVE A GREAT WEEKEND.
WE'LL SEE YOU ON MONDAY.