Marci Mason was an NFL wife for 15 years and shares her story of life after divorce in “Beyond the Pain.†Also, Mariam escaped her strict Islamic religion and abusive marriage.
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TWO WOMEN WHO SURVIVED
BRUTALITY OF ISLAM.
I COULDN'T GO TO SCHOOL, HALF
OF MY FACE WAS BLACK AND BLUE.
FROM THE WORLD RENOWNED
SOMALI ACTIVIST TO THIS IRANIAN
HOUSEWIFE.
THIS WAS LIKE ISLAM WAS A
PRIVILEGE.
HEAR HOW THEY ES SCAPED THEIR
OPPRESSORS ON TODAY'S "700
CLUB."
PAT: WELCOME TO "THE 700
CLUB."
HE HAS BEEN CALL ADD PETULANT.
TEENAGER.
EVER SEEN A TEENAGER NOT GET
THEIR WAY AND SULK AND THEN MEAN
TO PEOPLE?
HAVE YOU RUN INTO TEENAGERS,
TERRY IS HERE, WOULDN'T HAVE ONE
LIKE THAT?
TERRY: NEVER.
PAT: WE HAVE ONE IN THE OVAL
OFFICE.
TENSIONS RISES BETWEEN ANOTHER
COUNTRY, RUSSIA?
NO.
CHINA, NO.
ISRAEL, THEY ARE THE RECIPIENTS
OF A PETULANT TEENAGER.
TERRY: THEY SAY THEY ARE
SPYING.
REPORTER: ISRAEL WAS SPYING
ON NE GOEGSS BETWEEN UNITED
STATES AND IRAN AND BUILDING A
DEAL WITH IRAN.
ISRAEL OBTAINED CONFIDENTIAL
BRIEFINGS IN EUROPE THEN SHARED
THAT INTELLIGENCE WITH U.S.
LAWMAKERS.
ONE SENIOR U.S. OFFICIAL TOLD
THE PAPER, ONE THING TO SPY ON
EACH OTHER AND ANOTHER THING FOR
ISRAEL TO STEAL U.S. SECRETS AND
PLAY THEM TO UNDERMINE U.S.
DIPLOMACY.
ISRAEL DENIES IT WAS SPYING.
SAYS THEY GOT THE INFORMATION ON
THE IRAN TALKS IN OTHER WAYS
LIKE WATCHING IRAN'S LEADERS AND
SPEAKING WITH EUROPEAN OFFICIALS
ABOUT THE IRAN TALKS.
THIS LATEST SPAT COMES AS THE
WHITE HOUSE CRITICIZES
NETANYAHU.
ON MONDAY OBAMA'S TOP ADVISER
QUESTIONS ISRAELI'S SINCERITY.
SUCH CONTRADICTORY COMMENTS
QUESTION HIS COMMITMENT.
THEY WANT THEM UNDER THE
RIGHT CONDITIONS, WHITE HOUSE
KEPT UP ITS CRITICISM, THE
PALASTINIAN LAND MUST END AND
DREW THUNDEROUS APPLAUSE FROM
THE CROWD.
IT MUST END.
[APPLAUSE]
AND THE PALASTINIAN PEOPLE --
AND THE PALASTINIAN PEOPLE MUST
HAVE THE RIGHT TO LIVE IN AND
GOVERN THEMSELVES IN THEIR OWN
SOVEREIGN STATE.
LINDSEY GRAHAM SLAMMED THE
STATEMENT.
JOHN MCCAIN SAID PRESIDENT OBAMA
SHOULD GET OVER IT.
PRESIDENT SHOULD GET OVER
YOUR TEMPER TANTRUM, MR.
PRESIDENT.
IT IS TIME WE WORK TOGETHER WITH
OUR ISRAELI FRIENDS.
PRESIDENT HAS HIS PRIORITIES SO
SCREWED UP, IT IS UNBELIEVABLE.
GEORGE THOMAS, CBN NEWS.
PAT: I FEAR FOR AMERICA BEING
LED BY SOMETHING LIKE THIS.
YOU KNOW WHAT THE PROBLEM WAS?
OKAY IF THE ISRAELIS LISTEN IN
ON OUR NEGOTIATIONS AND THEY
FIND OUT WHAT WE ARE TALKING
ABOUT, DON'T TELL THE CONGRESS
ABOUT IT.
DON'T TELL THE UNITED STATES CON
CONGRE
CONGRE
CONGRESS?
I HEARD LINDSEY GRAHAM SAY THE
PRESIDENT CAN'T TAKE OFF THE
SANCTIONS.
HE IGNORED THE CONGRESS.
THE ISRAELI SECRET SERVICE TOLD
THE UNITED STATES CONGRESS, WHAT
OBAMA WAS DOING.
THIS IS CRAZY!
WHOLE THING IS LIKE ANOTHER
WORLD.
IT IS LIKE ALICE -- AND THE
LOOKING GLASS, ONE COMMENTATOR
TALKING ABOUT GEORGE ORWELL AND
1984 AND GOOD IS BAD, SUGAR IS
SOUR AND ALL THE REST OF IT.
WE HAVE JUST EARNED THINGS ON
THEIR HEAD.
AGAIN, PETULANT TEENAGER.
PETULANT TEENAGER.
DIDN'T GET HIS WAY.
DIDN'T GET WHAT HE WANTS, IT IS
DANGEROUS FOR NETANYAHU.
OBAMA IS TAKING THE UNITED
STATES GOVERNMENT AGAINST HIM
AND CAN HURT THE ISRAELIS AND
UNITED NATIONS.
LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, IF THIS
NATION GOES AGAINST ISRAEL, GOD
ALL MIGHTY WILL GO AGAINST THIS
NATION.
IT IS GOING TO HAPPEN.
IT WILL HURT ALL OF US.
IT IS NOT JUST THOSE GUYS IN
WASHINGTON.
IT WILL BE EVERYBODY.
AND DISASTER WILL FOLLOW
DISASTER UPON THIS NATION IF WE
TURN OUR BACKS ON ISRAEL AND --
THE BIBLE TALKS ABOUT TOUCH NOT
THAT ANOINTED.
IN OTHER NEWS, REPUBLICANS AND
DEMOCRATS SENDING PRESIDENT
OBAMA A WARNING ABOUT THE PEACE
TALKS WITH
IRAN.
WENDY GRIFFITH HAS THE STORY
FROM THE
CBN NEWS ROOM.
WENDY GRIFFITH THAT'S RIGHT, 365
MEMBERS SENT HIM A LETTER.
HILL
REPORT IT IS
LETTER
SAYS
ONLY THEN WILL CONGRESS CONSIDER
LIFTING ECONOMIC SANCTIONS ON
IRAN.
IRANIANS WANT THE SANCTIONS LIFT
NOW, MANY CRITICS QUESTION IN
IRAN IS SERIOUS, THEY WOULD STOP
THEIR NUCLEAR PROGRAM.
THE CROWD SHOUTED "DEATH TO
AMERICA."
AYATOLLAH KHOMEINI AGREED, YES,
DEATH TO AMERICAN AND CRITICIZED
AMERICA FOR PUTTING SANCTIONS ON
IRAN.
NO SURVIVORS FROM A TERRIBLE
PLANE CRASH IN FRANCE, 150
PEOPLE ON GERMAN WINGS FLIGHT.
SUBSIDIARY OF LUTANZA AIRLINE
THAT REGULARLY SHUTTLES GERMANS
AROUND EUROPE.
IT WAS ON A NORMAL ROUTE AS
THEY CROSS INTO THE SOUTHERN
ALPS.
HUGE DECENT AND LOST CONTACT
6800 FEET IN THE MOUNTAINS.
VERY BAFFLING INDICATING THEY
WERE JUST FINE AND BIG DECENT
INTO HIGH TERRAIN.
SAD.
JET REACHED 38,000 FEET BEFORE
IT FELL.
RADAR LOST JUST UNDER 7,000
FEET.
CALENDAR SAYS SPRING.
WINTER REFUSING TO LET GO OF ITS
GRIP.
NEW YORK GETTING READY 3-6
INCHES OF SNOW.
PEOPLE SAY THEY HAVE HAD ENOUGH.
READY FOR IT TO BE OVER.
I HAVE HAD ENOUGH OF IT.
MADISON, WISCONSIN GOT FIVE
INCHES, 15 INCHES FALLING IN
OTHER PARTS, IOWA AND MINNESOTA
GOT 10 INCHES.
STRONG WINTER STORM HITTING
MINNESOTA BRINGING FREEZING RAIN
AND SNOW TO NORTH AND SOUTH
DAKOTAS, PAT, WHAT ARE WE GOING
TO DO?
PAT: BABY, IT IS COLD OUT
HERE.
FAIRLY BALMY.
OUTDOOR CONCERT WITH THE OAK
RIDGE BOYS.
THEY WERE A LITTLE CHILLY.
TERRY: IT WAS CHILLY, I AM
SEEING DAFFODILS.
PAT: 40 SOME YESTERDAY.
IF YOU BUNDLED UP.
THAT ISN'T MINUS LIKE IN
MINNESOTA.
YOU GREW UP IN WISCONSIN, WHEN
DID YOU STOP BEING COLD?
TERRY: I AM STILL COLD, WHY
I LIVE HERE.
[LAUGHTER].
STILL AHEAD.
SOME VIEW HER AS A HERO, OTHERS
A HERETIC, ONE THING IS FOR
CERTAIN, ISLAM MUST BE DEFEATED.
SHE WILL EXPLAIN WHY LATER IN
TODAY'S SHOW.
A SIDE OF THE NFL YOU WON'T SEE
WHEN YOU WATCH A GAME, FORMER
WIFE OF A PRO-BOWLER SHARES HER
STORY WHEN WE RETURN.
TERRY: IF AN ATHLETE MAKES A
MISTAKE ON THE FIELD, THERE IS A
CHANCE IT COULD COST HIS TEAM
THE GAME OR IN CERTAIN
CIRCUMSTANCES PERHAPS THE ENTIRE
SEASON.
AT HOME, MISTAKES CAN DO MORE
THAN UPSET A COACH OR ENTIRE FAN
BASE, THEY CAN RUIN A FAMILY.
TAKE A LOOK.
WHEN MARCI MASON MARRIED THE
LOVE OF HER LIFE, SHE THOUGHT IT
WOULD BE FOREVER.
MARCI SPENT 15 YEARS AS THE WIFE
OF A NFL FOOTBALL PLAYER.
SHE FOUND HERSELF HEART BROKEN
AND DIVORCED WITH TWO KIDS, IN
HER BOOK "BEYOND THE PAIN"
MARCI SHARES HER LESSONS DEALING
WITH TOUGH TIMES AND INSPIRES
WHERE I AM TO GET ON THE PATH OF
HEALING AND RESTORATION.
TERRY: MARCI MASON IS WITH
US ON "THE 700 CLUB."
THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME, IT
IS AN HONOR.
TERRY: YOU AND YOUR HUSBAND
MARRIED LANGUAGE BEFORE THE NFL
CAREER BEGAN.
HOW DID THE HYPE AND CONTRACTS
AND SORT OF STARDOM IMPACT YOUR
RELATIONSHIP?
I AM GOING TO BE HONEST WITH
YOU.
I DON'T THINK THAT WAS A
PROBLEM.
WE WERE BOTH GROUNDED.
WE HAD A GOOD HANDLE.
WE HAD A LOT OF FRIENDS OUTSIDE
THE GAME AND STAYED IN CONTACT
WITH OUR FAMILIES.
THAT DYNAMIC, FINANCIAL PEACE
WAS GOOD.
TERRY: HOW ABOUT YOUR FAITH?
WE WERE YOUNG.
YOU THINK YOU HAVE THIS GREAT
RELATIONSHIP WITH GOD.
OFTEN TIMES IN LIFE, THAT IS NOT
TESTED UNTIL YOU GO THROUGH
SOMETHING.
TERRY: BOY IS THAT TRUE.
IT IS REALLY TRUE.
YOU MENTIONED SOMETHING HAS
HAPPENED TO MANY WOMEN, WHEN YOU
HAVE A HUSBAND THAT HAS A STRONG
ROLE, YOU WIND UPCOMING ALONG
AND DOING WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE
TO HELP HIM BE SUCCESSFUL.
IN THE PROCESS YOU CAN SOMETIMES
LOSE WHO YOU ARE.
YOU SAY THAT HAPPENED?
IT DID.
THAT HAPPENS FOR A LOT OF WOMEN.
WE ARE NATURALLY CARETAKERS,
TAKE CARE OF THE HOUSE, FAMILY,
FINANCES.
YOU FIND YOURSELF DOING THE
DAY-TO-DAY THINGS.
LITTLE BY LITTLE WE LOSE
OURSELVES.
WITH MY HUSBAND, SEEMED HIS
PLATFORM AND PURPOSE BIGGER AND
MATTERED MORE FOR THE FAMILY.
I BEGAN TO LOSE MYSELF IN THE
PROCESS.
TERRY: DID YOU REALIZE THAT
BEFORE THERE WAS AN ISSUE WITH
YOUR RELATIONSHIP?
I DON'T THINK I STARTED UNTIL
I WAS ALREADY LOST.
UNTIL I WAS YEAR SEVEN OR EIGHT
AND LOOKED BACK.
WHAT ABOUT THE THINGS I WANT TO
DO?
SO I THINK IT IS THE SLOW
PROCESS.
THAT IS THE SCARY PART.
THAT IS WHY I WANT WOMEN TO BE
AWARE OF THAT SO THEY ARE
CONSCIOUS.
TERRY: YOU WERE FAMILY
ORIENTED IN YOUR RELATIONSHIP
WITH YOUR HUSBAND, CHILDREN,
FAMILY NIGHTS, DID THINGS
TOGETHER.
WERE YOU STUNNED WHEN YOU FOUND
OUT THE MARRIAGE WAS IN TROUBLE?
ABSOLUTELY.
I LOVED MY EX-HUSBAND WITH
EVERYTHING.
THAT WAS ONE OF THE LESSONS.
I PUT HIM BEFORE MY RELATIONSHIP
WITH GOD.
THAT IS WHY I TALK ABOUT, IT
TAKES TWO.
IT WASN'T ALL HIM.
THERE WERE THINGS GOD WANTED ME
TO LEARN.
I WAS DEVASTATED.
GOD ALWAYS SHOWS UP, ALWAYS ON
TIME.
TERRY: WHEN THAT HAPPENS,
ALMOST LIKE, I HAVE GONE THROUGH
THE SAME SCENARIO, IT IS LIKE
SOMEBODY DIES BUT THE CORPSE IS
WALKING AROUND, HEALING IS HARD.
HOW DID THAT PROCESS START?
IT WAS MY FAITH.
I AM CLOSE TO MY MOM AND FATHER
AND MY MOTHER COMING IN AND
DOING THE DISHES.
I DIDN'T WANT TO GET OUT OF BED,
I AM GREAT, I AM GRANDMA, THEY
NEED YOU.
IT WAS A REALLY GOOD FRIEND,
FAITH, WOMEN.
YOU HAVE TO HAVE A STRONG
SUPPORT SYSTEM.
YOU CAN'T DO IT BY YOURSELF.
I WANTED TO WRITE A BOOK THAT
TALKED ABOUT ABOUT SIMPLE
LESSONS WOMEN COULD HOLD ON TO,
TO GET THEM THROUGH THE PROCESS.
TERRY: YOU HAD BEEN RAISED
UP WITH FAITH.
LOVED YOUR HUSBAND WITH ALL YOUR
HEART, WAS IT HARD TO CONTEND
WITH THE REALITY OF DIVORCE?
IT WAS.
FIRST TIME I WENT INTO AN
ATTORNEY'S OFFICE, SHE SAID YOU
ARE NOT READY.
IT WAS HARD, HE WAS MY BEST
FRIEND.
I WANTED MY MARRIAGE TO BE
FOREVER.
HIS WILL, HIS WAY, THAT IS NOT
ALWAYS THE CASE.
I LEARNED SO MUCH AND A STRONGER
WOMAN BECAUSE OF THAT.
TERRY: TALK ABOUT THE THINGS
YOU LEARNED, YOU LOOKED BACK AT
YOUR MARRIAGE AS A LOSS BUT YOU
ALSO SEE THERE WERE MANY THINGS
THAT WERE SAVED, WHAT DO YOU
MEAN?
I HAVE TWO BEAUTIFUL
CHILDREN.
TODAY IS OUR DAUGHTER'S 16TH
BIRTHDAY.
HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO HER.
TWO BEAUTIFUL CHILDREN.
MY FAITH, MY RELATIONSHIP WITH
GOD IS STRONG.
I KNOW I AM STILL VALUABLE.
I KNOW WHO I AM AS A WOMAN AND
WHAT I BRING TO THE TABLE.
I AM NOT IN CONTROL OF MY LIFE.
I UNDERSTAND IT NOW.
IT IS ALL UP TO GOD.
THERE IS SOMETHING BIGGER HE
WANTED ME TO DO AND HAD TO BE
OKAY WITH THAT.
TERRY: YOU TALK ABOUT
CREATING A GLORY STORY, WHAT DO
YOU MEAN?
YOU HAVE TO MAKE LEMONADE OUT
OF YOUR LEMONS AND FIND GOOD IN
EVERY SITUATION.
EVERYTHING COMES TO TEACH US
SOMETHING.
IF YOU LOOK AT THE LESSON, IT
WON'T BE A LESSON.
TERRY: TO GO THROUGH
SOMETHING SO TRAGIC AND NOT HAVE
A TAKE AWAY LESSON.
FINANCIAL PEACE TO NOT LEAVE
A LEGACY FOR OUR CHILDREN.
EVERYTHING TAKES SOMETHING AWAY
FROM THAT.
IF WOMEN CAN DO THAT WE WILL BE
MUCH BETTER OFF.
TERRY: DIVORCE IS DIFFICULT,
YOU HAVE WRITTEN A BOOK "BEYOND
THE PAIN," WHAT WOULD YOU SAY TO
THOSE STRUGGLING THROUGH THIS?
I WOULD LOVE FOR WOMEN TO GET
A SUPPORT SYSTEM AND CONTINUE,
ONE STEP IN FRONT OF THE OTHER.
EVENTUALLY YOU CAN LOOK BACK ON
IT AND REFLECT.
YOU CAN TAKE THE LESSONS AWAY.
I WANT THEM TO KNOW THEY CAN
MAKE IT THROUGH, FINANCES DOES
NOT NEGATE PAIN.
YES, I WAS MARRIED TO AN
EXFOOTBALL PLAYER.
THE MONEY DIDN'T COMFORT ME AT
NIGHT.
THEY CAN GET BEYOND IT.
IT IS GOING TO TAKE WORK.
YOU CAN'T DO IT WITHOUT GOD.
TERRY: ON THE OTHER SIDE IS
THE FRESH START AND NEW
BEGINNING.
ABSOLUTELY.
TERRY: YOU CAN FEEL SO MUCH
TRAUMA IN THE MIDST OF A LOSS SO
SIGNIFICANT.
MARCI HAS A BOOK "BEYOND THE
PAIN"
AVAILABLE NATIONWIDE.
IT IS A BLESSING FOR THOSE
WALKING THROUGH THE CHALLENGE.
THANK YOU.
THANK
YOU.
TERRY: PAT?
PAT: TODAY IS AN IMPORTANT
DAY FOR OUR NEXT GUEST, HER BOOK
"HERETIC"
HITS THE STANDS TODAY.
THIS LADY SURVIVED BRUTALITY OF
ISL
ISLAM.
WE'LL TALK WITH THE
THE HERETIC
AYAAN HIRSI ALI COMING UP NEXT.
PAT: WE ARE GLAD YOU ARE WITH
US ON THIS EDITION OF
"700
CLUB." WE HAVE A SPECIAL GUEST.
FOR MORE THAN
A DECADE.
AYAAN HIRSI ALI HAS BEEN A
FIERCE CRITIC OF ISLAM AND
CONSTANT TARGET OF DEATH
THREATS.
REPORTER: AYAAN HIRSI ALI
BORN A
MUSLIM IN SOMALIA WHERE
SAW AND EXPERIENCED BRUTAL
TREATMENT OF GIRLS.
AS A YOUNG WOMAN SHE SOUGHT
ASYLUM.
BASED TODAY IN WASHINGTON, D.C.,
AYAAN HIRSI ALI CONTINUES TO
RISK HER LIFE TO EXPOSE ISLAM, A
RELIGION SHE SAYS
SUBJUGATES
WOMEN TO SLAVERY
AND
SUBMISSION,
LATEST BOOK IS "HERETIC" WHY
ISLAM NEEDS A REFORMATION.
IT IS THE
ONLY
WAY
TO
END
TERRORISM, SECTARIAN WARFARE
THAT EACH YEAR CLAIM THOUSANDS
OF LIVES THROUGHOUT THE MUSLIM
WORLD.
PAT: THIS VERY INTERESTING
WOMAN WITH US BY SATELLITE, WE
WELCOME YOU TO "THE 700 CLUB."
YOU ARE A TERRIFIC AUTHOR,
ENJOYED BOTH OF YOUR BOOKS,
THANK YOU FOR WRITING THEM.
TOOK A LOT OF COURAGE ABOUT THE
STATUS OF WOMEN IN PAKISTAN,
SAUDI ARABIA, KUWAIT, VARIOUS
MUSLIM COUNTRIES.
IN MOST MUSLIM COUNTRIES
WHERE SHARIA LAW IS APPLIED,
WOMEN MUST HAVE A MALE GUARDIAN
AND ASK PERMISSION TO LEAVE THE
HOUSE.
IF THEY ARE RAPED, THEY HAVE TO
PROVE, THEIR TESTIMONY IS WORTH
HALF OF THAT OF THE RAPIST.
THEY HAVE TO GO OUT OF THE HOUSE
COVERED HEAD TO TOE.
THERE ARE NOW MUSLIM WOMEN
STARTING THEIR OWN MOVEMENTS AND
FIGHT THAT BACK.
SAUDI WOMEN FIGHTING TO DRIVE,
EGYPTIAN WOMEN FIGHTING.
THERE ARE ALMOST A THOUSAND
KILLINGS UNDERREPORTED IN
PAKISTAN.
THOSE ARE ONLY THE CASES
REPORTED.
THE POSITION OF THE MUSLIM WOMAN
IN 2015 IS EXTREMELY DIRE.
PAT: LET ME ASK YOU ABOUT
YOUR PREVIOUS BOOK, YOU TALK
ABOUT BEING A YOUNG GIRL
FORCIBLY TAKEN.
THEY HAVE THAT PROCEDURE, THEY
USE THE TERM GENTILE MUTILATION,
WHAT HAPPENED TO YOU THEN?
WELL, I UNDERWENT GENTILE
MUTILATION AT FIVE.
120-180 MILLION WOMEN HAVE
UNDERGONE THAT.
NOT ALL MUSLIM.
MAJORITY OF THE WOMEN SUBJECTED
TO THIS MUTILATION ARE MUSLIM.
I THINK AS YOU OPEN YOUR
NEWSPAPER OR TURN ON THE
TELEVISION, NOT A DAY GOES BY
WITHOUT PEOPLE WHO ARE MUSLIM
USING THEIR FAITH, USING THE
GUIDANCE OF THE PROPHET MOHAMMED
AND WHAT THEY READ IN THE KORAN
TO ENGAGE IN VIOLENCE AND
OPPRESSION AND JUSTIFY IT IN THE
NAME OF RELIGION.
IN THIS NEW BOOK, REALLY THE
ONLY WAY OUT OF THE THIS VICIOUS
CYCLE OF BRUTALITY IS A RADICAL
REFORMATION OF THE FAITH.
PAT: SO MANY SAY ISLAM IS A
RELIGION OF PEACE, YOU KNOW.
THEN THEY SAY ISIS AND OTHERS,
IT IS JUST ABRANT GROUP OF
ISLAMISTS AND IN YOUR BOOK, YOU
TALK ABOUT JIHADIS AND CULTURE
OF DEATH AND FACT IT COMES
DIRECTLY FROM THE KORAN, HAH
DEED AND OTHER WRITINGS DEALING
WITH MOHAMMED HIMSELF.
COULD YOU EXPLAIN WHAT YOU ARE
TALKING ABOUT?
I WANT TO START BY SAYING
ISLAM CAN BECOME A RELIGION OF
PEACE ONCE IT IS PEACE.
ISLAM TODAY IN ITS PURER FORM,
IT IS NOT A RELIGION OF PEACE.
DESCRIBE IN THE PEACE THREE SETS
OF MUSLIM, ONE SET ORIENTED TO
MADINA WHEN THE PROPHET
IMMIGRANTED -- HE BEHEADED
PEOPLE HIMSELF.
IN MADINA, THE ISLAMIC STATE IN
IRAQ IN SYRIA.
BEFORE THAT, ALI PREACHING PEACE
AND LOVE AND CHARITY.
THAT WAS MORE SPIRITUAL.
MAYBE WHAT WE WOULD DESCRIBE AS
A RELIGION TODAY.
I THINK MOST ARE MECCA ORIENTED.
THERE IS A DISTURBING AND
INCREASING MINORITY THAT IS
USING THE EXAMPLE OF THE PROPHET
MOHAMMED TO CARRY OUT
UNDESCRIBABLE ATROCITIES AGAINST
WOMEN, AGAINST CHRISTIANS,
AGAINST OTHER RELIGIOUS
MINORITIES, AGAINST GAY PEOPLE.
IT IS NEVER ENTER, ANTI-SEMITISM
BACK IN EUROPE IN A WAY WE
HAVEN'T SEEN SINCE 1945.
THAT IS BECAUSE OF THE PRESENCE
OF RADICAL ISLAM.
QUESTION TODAY IS: HOW DO WE
DEAL WITH THIS?
I THINK FOR 1.6 BILLION PEOPLE
IN THE WORLD, THE WAY OUT OF
THIS IS A REVIE OF THEIR
RELIGION AND RADICAL
REFORMATION.
WHAT IS WHAT I PROPOSE IN THIS
BOOK.
PAT: MOHAMMED WAS A FAIRLY
LITERATE MAN MARRIED TO AN OLDER
WOMAN.
HE MARRIED A GIRL WHEN SHE WAS
NINE YEARS OLD.
HE HAD MANY OTHER WIVES.
HE WAS A WARRIOR.
BUT YET, OFFENSE AGAINST THE
PROPHET MEANS YOU CAN GET KILLED
IN A MUSLIM WORLD.
WHAT IS THE VIEW OF MOHAMMED,
ALMOST LIKE THEY PUT HIM ABOVE
GOD HIMSELF?
THAT IS EXACTLY THE POINT
THAT I AM MAKING IN THE BOOK, IF
YOU LOOK AT THE LIFE OF MOHAMMED
AND TRY TO EMULATE HIM YOU ARE
GOING TO GET WHAT WE SEE NOW
ISLAMIC STATE.
IT IS NOT ONLY THE ISLAMIC
STATE.
BOONEAY INTRODUCED SHARIA LAW.
SAUDI ARABIA, BEHEADINGS THAT
TAKE PLACE, I DON'T KNOW, PRETTY
MUCH ON A DAILY BASIS AND
BECOMING MORE FREQUENT.
PEOPLE ARE HUNG IN IRAN.
ALL OF THESE ATROCITIES
JUSTIFIED IN THE NAME OF
MOHAMMED.
MY PROPOSAL HERE ONE OF THE FIVE
PROPOSALS IN MY BOOK, TIME FOR
MUSLIMS TO CHANGE THEIR ATTITUDE
TO KORAN AND MOHAMMED AND DON'T
BLINDLY FOLLOW IN THAT EXAM BUT
REEXAM IT.
THAT IS KEY.
SECOND POINT, MUSLIMS AS THEY
ARE TAUGHT TODAY, NOT JUST
EXTREMISTS BUT MAIN STREAM
MUSLIMS, TAUGHT TO INVEST MORE
IN LIFE AFTER DEATH THAN BEFORE
LIFE BEFORE DEATH.
THIS CREATES A MINDSET THAT
NEEDS TO BE REVISED.
MUSLIMS ARE TAUGHT THEY MUST
FORBID WRONG THAT WAY YOU HAVE A
SOCIETY OF VIGILANTES.
WE MUST DO OUR BEST TO INTRODUCE
SHARIA LAW.
IT IS A TOE TOLL TARYN
ENVIRONMENT, SHARIA LAW MUST GO.
FINALLY JIHAD, OR HOLY WAR MUST
BE REPLACED WITH HOLY PEACE.
ISLAM IS IN A CRISIS.
ONLY WAY OUT IS A REFORMATION.
PAT: WE ARE TOLD HERE BY THE
SO-CALLED MODERATE MUSLIMS.
JIHAD IS A STRUGGLE OF A SOUL.
WHAT IS JIHAD AND WHAT YOU HAVE
EXPERIENCED?
JIHAD IS HOLY WAR.
DECLARATION ON INFADELS.
IF THEY REFUSE TO TAKE THE SWORD
OR USE VIOLENCE AND GIVE THEM --
MAKE THEM AN OFFER, CONVERT, PAY
A DISCRIMINATORY TAX OR DIE.
WE SEE THIS APPLIED TODAY BY
THESE SO-CALLED CALIPHATE IN
IRAQ AND SYRIA.
THAT IS JIHAD.
WHEN MODERATE MUSLIMS SAY IT
MEANS JIHAD MEANS SOMETHING
ELSE, I WANT TO TELL THEM DENIAL
IS NOT A STRATEGY.
MORE MUSLIMS DENY THERE IS
SOMETHING INHERENTLY WRONG WITH
ISLAM THAT NEEDS TO CHANGE,
LONGER THE SUFFERING CONTINUES.
MORE PEOPLE THAT DIE AND GET
OPPRESSED.
PAT: IF A MOTHER HAS A SON,
SHE WOULD RAISE HIM UP TO BE A
MARTYR.
DEATH IS CONSIDERED GOOD.
THEY LOOK FORWARD TO DEATH AND
WRITE ABOUT IT OPPOSED TO LIFE.
WANT TO TALK ABOUT THAT?
I SAY WE INVEST, GROWING UP
AS A MUSLIM AND IN MUSLIM
COMMUNITIES, FAR MORE INVESTED
IN LIFE AFTER DEATH THAN LIFE
BEFORE DEATH.
YOUNG PEOPLE, ESPECIALLY YOUNG
BOYS AND MEN TAUGHT THE KORAN,
ALL THESE WONDERFUL DEEDS THEY
ARE GOING TO GET AND RENDERS
THEM TO INVEST MORE IN LIFE
AFTER DEATH.
YOU HAVE TO ASK YOURSELF WHY ARE
MUSLIMS IN PEACEFUL COUNTRIES
LIKE THE UNITED STATES AND
EUROPE, WHY ARE SOME OF THEM
TRAVELING AND SNEAKING OUT OF
THESE WONDERFUL AND STABLE
PROSPEROUS COMMUNITIES AND
SEEKING TO JOIN THE ISLAMIC
STATES?
IN THE MIND STATE THEY WANT TO
DIE FOR THE CALIPHATE FOR THE
SAKE OF ALLAH.
IT IS TIME TO RE-EXAMINE WHAT
ALLAH STATES AND THE PROPHET'S
EXAMPLE AND PREACH A LOVING AND
PEACEFUL MESSAGE AND MESSAGE OF
LIFE BEFORE DEATH.
PAT: YOU LIVED IN EUROPE,
WHAT IS THE CURRENT ISLAMIC VIEW
OF EUROPE, AMERICA, MIDDLE EAST,
IRAQ, SAUDI ARABIA, WHAT ARE
THEY INTENDING TO DO?
WHAT IS THE PLAN?
A LOT OF MUSLIMS LIVING,
LARGE NUMBERS, MILLIONS OF THEM
LEAVE BEHIND THEIR HOMELANDS AND
IMMIGRANT TO EUROPE AND COME TO
THE U.S. IN SEARCH FOR BETTER
LIFE AND THEN THERE ARE CLEARICS
AND MOSQUES THAT PREACH THEY
SHOULD TURN ON SOCIETIES.
I THINK IT IS TIME THAT THOSE
MUSLIMS WHO TOOK THAT STEP I
TOOK 24 YEARS AGO, WE STAND UP
AND SAY LISTEN, I THINK SHARIA
LAW IS BAD.
NOT ONLY FOR NON MUSLIMS,
ESPECIALLY FOR MUSLIMS AND
REJECT IT.
PAT: DAR AL ISLAM, DAR AL
HARB, IF YOU ARE NOT BE THEM,
YOU ARE AT WAR WITH THEM, THAT
IS WHAT THEY TEACH, ISN'T IT?
YEAH, THE PEOPLE WE HAVE NOW
CALL RADICAL ISLAMISTS, ALL
KINDS OF LABELS, MESSAGE IS YES,
HOUSE OF ISLAM AND HOUSE OF WAR.
THERE IS A BELIEF IT IS THE JOB
OF THOSE WHO LIVE WITHIN THE
HOUSE OF ISLAM TO CONVERT THE
REST OF THE WORLD TO ISLAM.
DAY OF JUDGMENT WILL COME AND
EXTREMELY DANGEROUS AS YOU CAN
SEE.
TWENTY-THIRTY YEARS AGO AND NOW
WE ARE SEEING THIS RADICAL
THOUGHT CONTROL THE WORLD INTO
LAW.
PAT: WHAT ABOUT IRAN.
LEADER JUST SAID DEATH TO
AMERICA.
HERE WE ARE TRYING TO MAKE A
DEAL WITH THEM.
DO YOU THINK WE CAN DEAL WITH
THE PEOPLE?
IRANIAN REGIME AND OPPOSED TO
THE IRANIAN PEOPLE, THEY ARE
MUST CLOSER TO ACCEPTING THE
U.S. AND EXISTENCE AND THE STATE
OF ISRAEL.
BUT THE ISLAMIC REPUBLIC, THIS
REGIME, THEY HAVE PROMISED DEATH
TO ISRAEL, DEATH TO AMERICA.
IN THE PROCESS OF DEVELOPING A
NUCLEAR BOMB AND MADE IT CLEAR,
THEY WANT TO ELIMINATE THE STATE
OF ISRAEL.
IT IS NAIVE TO NOT TAKE THEM AT
THEIR WORD AND THINK, THEY HAVE
BEEN AMBITIOUSLY WORKING OVER
THE LAST 34 YEARS AND SUDDENLY
THEY ARE GOING TO CHANGE THEIR
MINDS BECAUSE WE TELL THEM TO.
IT WOULD BE VERY NAIVE IF WE
BELIEVE THEM.
PAT: HOW RISKY IS YOUR LIFE
THESE DAYS?
HOW MANY ATTEMPTS ON YOUR LIFE?
YOU HAVE SECURITY?
GUARDS, YOU WANT TO TAKE WHAT
COMES?
VERY STRICT INSTRUCTIONS NOT
TO TALK ABOUT MY SECURITY.
IT IS VERY CLEAR, IF YOU WANT TO
SPEAK OUT AGAINST THE VIOLENCE
THAT IS JUSTIFIED IN THE NAME
AGAINST ISLAM, THEY WANT TO USE
OF FORCE.
PAT: YOU ARE A TERRIFIC
FIGURE.
APPRECIATE YOU BEING WITH US.
HOPE YOUR BOOK IS SUCCESSFUL.
"INFADEL."
THIS IS CALLED "HERETIC" WHY
ISLAM NEEDS A REFORMATION.
MIGHT BE A LITTLE UTOPIAN TO
HOPE FOR.
AYAAN HIRSI ALI, THANK YOU FOR
BEING WITH US, GOD BLESS YOU.
THANK YOU.
PAT: FASCINATING BOOK
AVAILABLE, TODAY IS THE DAY IT
IS RELEASED IN BOOKSTORES ALL
CROSS THE UNITED STATES.
TERRY?
TERRY: AYAAN HIRSI ALI IS
ONE OF MILLIONS THAT HAVE
SUFFERED ABUSE FROM THE HANDS OF
MUSLIMS, MERIAM TRIP IS ANOTHER.
I AM GOING TO TAKE YOU TO
IRAN.
I AM GOING TO MAKE A GOOD
SUBMISSIVE WIFE OUT OF YOU.
TERRY: HEAR HOW A VISION
HELPED HER ESCAPE HER TORMENTER,
THAT IS NEXT.
WELCOME BACK TO "700 CLUB."
INDIANA HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES
APPROVED A BILL TO PROTECT
RELIGIOUS FREEDOM.
KEEPING THE GOVERNMENT FROM
FORCING THEM.
SUPPORTERS DISAGREE.
WHOLE PURPOSE IS TO MAKE SURE
GOVERNMENT ISN'T FORCED UPON OF
EXERCISE OF FREEDOM OF RELIGION.
CHRISTIAN THEME FILM "DO YOU
BELIEVE?"
FINISHING NO. 6 WITH THREE AND A
HALF MILLION DOLLARS.
ALL LONGING FOR SOMETHING MORE
AS THEIR LIVES COME TOGETHER.
YOU CAN
ALWAYS GET THE LATEST
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PAT AND TERRY WILL BE BACK FOR
MORE "THE 700 CLUB" AFTER THIS.
PAT: WE JUST SHOWED YOU AN
INTERVIEW I HAD WITH AYAAN HIRSI
ALI ABOUT THE TREATMENT OF WOMEN
IN ISLAMIC COUNTRIES.
WHAT ABOUT AN AMERICAN MARRIED
TO AN IRANIAN WHERE THEY LIVE
UNDER SHARIA LAW?
LAST THING MARIAM WANTED WAS TO
MOVE TO THAT COUNTRY WHERE SHE
WOULD BE SUBJEKTED TO SHARIA
LAW.
LOOK AT THIS SHOCKING STORY.
GROWING UP AS A MUSLIM IN
IRAN, MARIAM TRIP WAS TAUGHT TO
HATE.
ISLAM IS A VERY, VERY
PREJUDICE RELIGION.
AS A CHILD I WAS TAUGHT TO HATE
JEWS.
ALSO CHRISTIANS.
AS A TEEN SHE STRUGGLED ABOUT
THE BELIEFS AND THE ROLE OF
WOMEN IN ISLAM.
I HAD A PROBLEM WITH ISLAM.
IT IS SO CRUEL TOWARD WOMEN.
WHY AM I A SECOND GRADE CITIZEN.
MARIAM MARRIED AT 17.
SHE AND HUSBAND MOVED TO THE
STATES AND HAD A SON.
WHILE AT SCHOOL HER HUSBAND MET
RADICALS.
HE CHANGED INTO THIS DOMINANT
MEAN MAN AND PUT A SPECIAL LOCK
ON THE FRONT DOOR I NEEDED A KEY
TO GET OUT.
I WAS A PRISONER IN MY OWN HOME.
THERE WAS NO LOVE ANYMORE.
IT WAS LIKE HIS LOVE WAS A
PRIVILEGE.
MARIAM PRAYED TO ALLAH.
I PRAYED HE WOULD PUT LOVE IN
MY MARRIAGE.
THEIR RELATIONSHIP DIDN'T
CHANGE.
SHE ASKED FOR A DIVORCE.
HE BEAT ME SO HARD I COULDN'T
GO TO SCHOOL, HALF OF MY FACE
WAS BLACK AND BLUE.
HE SAID, NO, NO, I AM TAKING YOU
TO IRAN AND UNDER KHOMEINI, I AM
MAKING A GOOD SUBMISSIVE WIFE TO
YOU.
I SAID I AM NOT COMING.
HER HUSBAND KIDNAPPED HER SON
AND MOVED TO IRAN.
SHE NEVER SAW HER SON AGAIN.
SHE TRIED TO SURVIVE FINANCIALLY
BY WORKING TWO JOBS.
AFTER FIVE YEARS SHE MET A MAN
NAMED CARVER WHO BECAME A
FIANCE.
SHE SAW HIM PRAYING TO ALLAH
ABOUT FINANCES.
I AM PRAYING TO ALL THE
PROPHETS.
ALL OF A SUDDEN, I LOOK TOWARD
THE FRENCH DOORS AND THERE HE
WAS STANDING, LORD JESUS.
I RECOGNIZED HIM.
I WASN'T PRAYING TO HIM.
HE WAS THE FURTHEST THING FROM
MY MIND.
SHE SAID I SEE JESUS.
HE IS STANDING RIGHT THERE.
HE IS ALL DRESSED IN WHITE.
I KNEW HE WAS JESUS CHRIST.
I DIDN'T KNOW MUCH ELSE ABOUT
CHRISTIANITY.
I KNEW FROM THAT MOMENT ON, I
WAS GOING TO BE A CHRISTIAN.
MARIAM AND CARVER SOON
MARRIED AND CONTINUED TO GROW IN
HER DESIRE TO LEARN ABOUT JESUS
AND CHRISTIANITY.
I BECAME SERIOUS ABOUT
PRAYING TO THE LORD JESUS AND
SEEKING CHRISTIANITY.
MARIAM BEGAN WATCHING
CHRISTIAN PROGRAMS, INCLUDING
"700 CLUB."
I SAW PAT ROBERTSON.
HE MADE THE ALTAR CALL.
I RECEIVED JESUS OFFICIALLY INTO
MY HEART AS MY LORD AND SAVIOR
AND AS MY GOD.
IN THE DAYS THAT FOLLOWED,
MARIAM READ THE BIBLE AND
PRAYED.
I SAID FATHER, I DON'T WANT
TO OFFEND YOU, PLEASE, TELL ME
IF JESUS IS YOUR SON, IF JESUS
IS DIVINE.
I WOULD OPEN THE BIBLE AND GO TO
BOOK OF JOHN.
WORDS BECAME FLESH.
HOW CAN IT GET ANYMORE CLEAR
THEN THAT?
MARIAM AND CARVER HAD A SON,
TAUGHT HIM ABOUT JESUS AND WENT
TO CHURCH.
MY SON LOOKED ME IN THE EYE
AND SAID DAD, WHY CAN'T WE GO TO
CHURCH?
I JUST DIDN'T HAVE A GOOD
ANSWER.
I SAID CARVER, WE CAN, AND WE
WILL.
IT WAS THE FIRST TIME
CARVER
STEPPED INSIDE A CHURCH SINCE HE
WAS A CHILD.
THE MESSAGE SOAKED IN HIM.
HE RECEIVED THE LORD JESUS IN
HIS HEART AND BECAME A
CHRISTIAN.
SIX MONTHS LATER THE ENTIRE
FAMILY BAPTIZED TOGETHER.
IT WAS WONDERFUL BECAUSE WE
WERE -- IT WAS A FULL EMERSION
BAPTISM.
I DIED WITH CHRIST AND
RESURRECTED A NEW CREATION IN
CHRIST.
OVER THE YEARS THEY CONTINUE
TO GROW IN THEIR NEWFOUND FAITH.
MOST IMPORTANT THING THAT GOD
HAS DONE FOR ME WAS TO SAVE MY
SOUL TO COME TO THE LORD JESUS
WHO KNOWS THAT ETERNITY IS SAFE.
I WOULD SHARE WITH PEOPLE OF
OTHER FAITHS LIKE MUSLIMS WHICH
HAVE NO SAVIOR.
LIKE BUDDHIST AND HINDUS WHO
HAVE NO SAVIOR.
THE ONLY FAITH THAT YOU HAVE A
SAVIOR IS CHRISTIANITY.
WHAT THE BIBLE SAYS IS TRUE.
JESUS DIED ON THE CROSS SO WE
WILL BE FORGIVEN.
PAT: MARIAM HAS GOT IT RIGHT,
IN HINDU, THERE IS NO SAVIOR.
BUDDHA DID NOT DIE FOR THE SINS
OF THE WORLD.
AND FOR SURE, MOHAMMED DIDN'T
DIE FOR ANYBODY'S SINS.
NEVER HAPPENED.
THERE IS ONLY ONE, JESUS CHRIST
CAME TO EARTH, HE WAS GOD IN THE
FLESH.
GOD SO LOVED THE WORLD, SENT HIS
ONLY BEGOTTEN SON, WHOEVER
BELIEVED SHOULD NOT PERISH BUT
HAVE EVER LASTING LIFE.
HE DIDN'T SEND HIS SON TO
CONDEMN US BUT TO GIVE US EVER
LASTING LIFE.
HE SAID THIS IS GOD, I HAVE COME
TO SHOW YOU WHAT THE FATHER IS
LIKE.
WHAT THE ONE WHO CREATED THE
WORLD IS LIKE.
I AM GOING WHEN I LEAVE THIS
WORLD, I AM GOING TO MY FATHER
AND MY GOD, YOUR FATHER, I AM
GOING TO GO BACK TO HEAVEN.
BUT I CAME TO DIE AS A HUMAN
BEING SO YOU MIGHT LIVE.
THAT IS WHAT CHRISTIANITY IS ALL
ABOUT.
THERE IS NOBODY THAT HAS A
SAVIOR LIKE THAT.
THING IS, HE LOVES YOU SO MUCH.
HE GAVE HIMSELF FOR YOU.
HE IS KIND, HE IS GENTLE.
HE IS FORGIVING, HE IS
UNDERSTANDING.
HE IS NOT SOME HARSH DEMON OR
WEIRD PERSON.
HE IS A GENTLE, KIND PERSON.
YET HE IS THE CREATOR OF THE
EARTH.
IF YOU WANT HIM TODAY, THIS
COULD BE THE DAY THAT CAN
REVOLUTIONIZE YOUR LIFE.
JESUS CHRIST, DO LIKE MARIAM
TRIP, OPEN YOUR HEART TO HIM
RIGHT NOW.
I AM GOING TO PRAY A PRAYER,
PRAY THAT PRAYER WITH ME IF YOU
WOULD.
PRAY THESE WORDS, JESUS, THAT'S
RIGHT, PRAY WITH ME.
LORD, JESUS, I KNOW THAT YOU
DIED FOR ME, I KNOW THAT YOU
ROSE AGAIN, I BELIEVE YOU ARE
COMING AGAIN TO RECEIVE UNTO
YOURSELF THOSE WHO BELIEVE IN
YOU.
RIGHT NOW, JESUS, I ASK YOU TO
TAKE OVER MY LIFE.
LEAVE YOUR LIFE IN ME.
I WILL LIVE FOR YOU AND I WILL
SERVE YOU ALL THE DAYS OF MY
LIFE.
THANK YOU, LORD THAT YOU HAVE
HEARD MY PRAYER.
THANK YOU, LORD, YOU HAVE COME
IN TO MY HEART.
IF YOU PRAYED WITH ME, THAT IS
THE MOST IMPORTANT PRAYER YOU
EVER PRAYED.
BIBLE SAYS MAGNIFY THE LORD WITH
ME.
ANYBODY IN CHRIST, HE IS A NEW
CREATION.
YOU JUST PRAYED WITH ME.
I WANT TO GIVE YOU SOMETHING,
THIS IS A LITTLE PACKET.
IT IS CALLED "A NEW DAY."
I WENT INTO THE AUDIO ROOM SOME
YEARS AGO AND POURED OUT MY
HEART FROM THE BIBLE.
73 MINUTES OF CONCENTRATED
TEACHING OF WHAT HAPPENED TO YOU
AND WHAT IS GOING TO HAPPEN
NEXT.
I'LL GIVE THIS TO YOU FREE, CALL
RIGHT NOW, TOLL-FREE NUMBER.
NO FINANCIAL OBLIGATION
WHATSOEVER.
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RIGHT THERE ON THE SCREEN.
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YOU CALL RIGHT NOW.
SOMEBODY IS THERE WHO LOVES YOU
AND CARES ABOUT YOU AND I PRAYED
WITH PAT.
HERE IS TERRY AS WE CONTINUE
"THE 700 CLUB."
TERRY: UP NEXT, WE ARE GOING
TO ANSWER YOUR E-MAIL QUESTIONS.
DO YOU HAVE TO CONFESS EACH SIN
YOU COMMIT
IN ORDER TO RECEIVE
FORGIVENESS?
PAT IS GOING TO TACKLE THAT ONE
AND MORE.
STAY WITH US.
TERRY: PAT, FIRST QUESTION
FROM JERRY, I AM PERPLEXED, PAT.
WHY IS IT NECESSARY FOR THE
GOVERNMENT TO LEGISLATE THE
CHRISTIANS ACT CHRIST LIKE.
WHEN I HEAR OF CHRISTIANS
REFUSING SERVICE TO OTHERS PAUSE
THEY DON'T AGREE WITH THEIR LIFE
STYLE, I HANG MY HEAD IN SHAME.
I PICTURE JESUS SHAKING HIS
HEAD.
I REMEMBER GORDAN SAYING YOU
CAN'T ARGUE SOMEONE INTO HEAVEN.
WE ALL NEED CHRIST, SOME MORE
THAN OTHERS, HOW CAN REFUSING
SERVICE?
PAT: YOU ARE MIXED UP.
WE ARE NOT SUPPOSED TO ENDORSE
PEOPLE'S SIN.
IT ISN'T A QUESTION OF SERVING
THEM IF THEY WANT A RESTAURANT,
OF COURSE YOU'LL SERVE THEM,
GAY, BLUE, PINK, OF COURSE
YOU'LL SERVE THEM DINNER.
IF THEY WANT A SHOE SHINE,
WHATEVER.
OF COURSE.
BUT IF THEY SAY WILL YOU
PARTICIPATE IN MY UNGODLY LIFE
STYLE, WILL YOU BE A PART OF IT
AND SANCTIFY IT AND PARTICIPATE
IN IT, YOU DON'T HAVE TO IT.
I DIDN'T COME TO BRING PEACE,
BUT A SWORD.
I DIDN'T COME TO BRING PEACE,
BUT A SWORD.
THERE IS A DIVIDING LINE AND YOU
KNOW, APOSTLE PAUL SAID LOOK, IF
SOMEBODY GIVES YOU MEAT AND
DOESN'T SAY ANYTHING ABOUT IT,
EAT THE MEAT.
IF HE SAYS THIS IS MEAT OFFERED
TO IDOLS, YOU DON'T EAT IT.
YOU DON'T PARTICIPATE IN IDOL
WORSHIP.
GOD BLESS YOU, WHAT IS NEXT.
TERRY: DO YOU HAVE TO
CONFESS EACH SIN IN ORDER TO
RECEIVE FORGIVENESS.
JES
WHAT IF A PERSON FALLS INTO SIN,
WILL THIS BELIEVER HAVE TO FEAR
JUDGMENT DAY?
PAT: BLOOD OF JESUS CHRIST IS
GOOD YESTERDAY, TODAY, AND
FOREVER, HE DIED ONCE FOR ALL
THAT WE MIGHT FIND PEACE WITH
GOD.
IT IS LIKE, A KID IS ADOPTED,
YOU ADOPT HIM INTO YOUR FAMILY,
YOU HAVE ADOPTED CHILDREN?
TERRY: MANY.
PAT: DO THEY SAY AM I ADOPTED
STILL?
TERRY: NOT A BIT.
PAT: IF YOU ARE ADOPTED INTO
THE FAMILY OF GOD, THAT IS IT.
SOMETIMES IT HELPS TO LAY OUT
THE THINGS YOU HAVE DONE.
USED TO BE A SONG "COUNT YOUR
BLESSINGS, NAME THEM ONE BY
ONE."
TERRY: I REMEMBER THAT.
PAT: I DON'T THINK WE HAVE TO
NAME OUR SINS, EVERY SO OFTEN
THERE ARE THINGS DOESN'T HELP TO
GET IT OFF YOUR CHEST.
WHAT ELSE?
TERRY: GOD CREATED THE EARTH
AND EVERYTHING, WHO CREATED GOD?
PEOPLE SAY YOU HAVE TO HAVE
FAITH.
ANYTHING I HAVE EVER HAD FAITH
IN DISAPPOINTED ME.
OTHER PREACHERS COULDN'T GIVE ME
A DI DEFINITIVE ANSWER.
PAT: GOD SHOWS US EVERYTHING
WE NEED TO DO TO SPEND ETERNITY
WITH HIM FOREVER AND ENJOY THE
BLISS OF HEAVEN.
HE SHOWED US WHAT IT TAKES TO
LIVE FOR HIM.
WHAT IT TAKES TO BE FORGIVEN OF
OUR SINS AND GO TO HEAVEN.
ALL LAID OUT CLEAR AS A BELL.
AS FAR AS WHERE GOD WAS BEFORE,
HE DOESN'T THINK WE NEED TO KNOW
THAT.
HE DOES ABOUT TELL US.
SCHOLASTICS AND MIDDLE ASIAS HAD
UNCAUSE, CAUSE, IT WAS NON
SENSE.
DOESN'T TELL YOU ANYTHING.
IT IS SELF-EXISTENCE, THERE IS A
GOD.
WHERE HE CAME FROM, HE DOESN'T
WANT TO TELL US, THAT IS HIS
BUSINESS.
OKAY.
HE'LL TELL US HOW TO GET TO HIM,
HOW TO KNOW HIM AND LIVE WITH
HIM.
POWER MINUTE, 2 CORINTHIANS, THE
LORD IS THE SPIRIT, WHERE THE
SPIRIT OF THE LORD IS, THERE IS
FREEDOM.
TOMORROW WE HAVE A HINDU WHO
HEARS A
DIVINE
MESSAGE, WH
AT DID
SHE
HEAR?
WE'LL TELL YOU ABOUT IT
TOMORROW, SEE YOU LATER.