On this week's edition of The Watchman, we sit down with Father Gabriel Naddaf, head of the Greek Orthodox Church in Yafia, outside Nazareth, to discuss how Christians are thriving in Israel while being persecuted in the Muslim lands of the ... ...
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Erick: AND WELCOME TO
THE WATCHMAN.
"WELL, WE TALK OFTEN ON"
THIS SHOW ABOUT THE
CONTINUING PERSECUTION OF
CHRISTIANS IN THE MIDDLE
EAST.
"IT IS AN EPIDEMIC, FOLKS."
CHRISTIANS ARE LITERALLY
BEING LIQUIDATED FROM THE
VERY REGION WHERE THE
FAITH WAS BORN.
"WELL, TODAY WE'RE JOINED"
BY SOMEONE WHO IS ON THE
"FRONT LINES OF THE FIGHT,"
NOT ONLY TO PRESERVE
CHRISTIANITY IN THE MIDDLE
"EAST, BUT TO STAND UP FOR"
ISRAEL.
FATHER GABRIEL NADOFF IS
HEAD OF THE GREEK ORTHODOX
"CHURCH NEAR NAZARETH, AND"
HE IS A SPOKESPERSON FOR
THE ISRAELI CHRISTIAN
"RECRUITMENT FORUM, AN"
ORGANIZATION THAT HELPS
ARABIC-SPEAKING ISRAELI
CHRISTIANS JOIN THE ISRAEL
DEFENSE FORCES AND BE
FULLY INTEGRATED INTO THE
ISRAELI SOCIETY.
THAT SOUNDS LIKE A GREAT
"THING, RIGHT?"
"WELL, NOT TO THE REGION'S"
JIHADISTS AND RADICALS.
THE FATHER REGULARLY FACES
DEATH THREATS FOR HIS BOLD
STAND FOR ISRAEL AND
MIDDLE EAST CHRISTIANS.
WE WERE BROUGHT TOGETHER
WITH THIS BRAVE MAN
"RECENTLY, AND I THINK"
YOU'RE GOING TO LIKE WHAT
HE HAS TO SAY.
TAKE A LOOK.
"FATHER NADOFF AND EMILY,"
THANK YOU FOR JOINING US
HERE AT CBN NEWS.
WELCOME TO THE UNITED
STATES.
"I'VE ADMIRED YOUR WORK,"
AND WE HERE AT CBN NEWS
HAVE ADMIRED YOUR WORK
FROM AFAR FOR A LONG TIME.
IT IS GREAT TO HAVE YOU IN
"STUDIO, REALLY FOR SUCH A"
TIME AS THIS.
WE SEE PERSECUTION OF
"CHRISTIANS, FATHER, AT"
UNHEARD OF LEVELS IN THE
MIDDLE EAST RIGHT NOW.
YOU'RE IN THE MIDDLE OF
IT.
YOU'RE IN NAZARETH.
TALK ABOUT WHAT YOU'RE
SEEING WITH THE
PERSECUTION OF CHRISTIANS
"IN THE MIDDLE EAST, AND"
HAS THE RISE OF ISIS BEEN
A BIG FACTOR AND HOW BAD
THE PERSECUTION IS GETTING
FOR CHRISTIANS?
OKAY.
GOOD EVENING.
[SPEAKING A FOREIGNLANGUAGE]
[SPEAKING A FOREIGN
LANGUAGE]
Through Translator:
"GOOD EVENING, AND THANK"
YOU FOR HAVING ME HERE.
I AM HERE TO YELL THE YELL
FOR THOSE CHRISTIANS WHO
CANNOT YELL IN THE MIDDLE
EAST THAT ARE BEING
PERSECUTED AND MURDERED BY
EXTREMISTS IN THE MIDDLE
EAST.
[SPEAKING A FOREIGNLANGUAGE]
Through Translator:
IN HOPES THAT THE WORDS
THAT I HAVE TO SAY WILL
"TOUCH THE HEARTS OF THOSE,"
THAT CAN HAVE AN INFLUENCE
TO THE LEADERS WHO DO HAVE
AN INFLUENCE OF WHAT CAN
HAPPEN WITH PEACE
PROCESSES OR THE
SITUATIONS IN THE MIDDLE
EAST.
[SPEAKING A FOREIGNLANGUAGE]
Through Translator:
HE IS SORRY TO SAY THAT IT
IS TRUE THAT THE MIDDLE
EAST IS ABSOLVING ITSELF
OF THE CHRISTIAN
POPULATION THAT HAS BEEN
IN THE LAND FOR THOUSANDS
OF YEARS.
[SPEAKING A FOREIGNLANGUAGE]
Through Translator:
AND THAT THE DEMOCRACIES
AND THE WESTERN POWERS ARE
NOT DOING ENOUGH TO REALLY
STOP WHAT'S GOING ON
AGAINST CHRISTIANS AND
MINORITIES IN THE MIDDLE
EAST.
" Erick: FATHER, HOW"
DID THINGS USED TO BE WITH
CHRISTIANS IN THE MIDDLE
EAST?
THINGS ARE SO BAD RIGHT
"NOW, AND THE CHRISTIAN"
POPULATION HAS DECREASED
IN THE MIDDLE EAST.
"IT WASN'T LIKE THAT, EVEN,"
"WHAT, IN THE 1980s,"
MAYBE THE EARLY 1990s.
IT SEEMS LIKE THINGS HAVE
GOTTEN A LOT WORST IN THE
PAST FEW YEARS.
IS THAT TRUE?
[SPEAKING A FOREIGNLANGUAGE]
Through Translator:
HE CAN GIVE YOU A PRIME
"EXAMPLE, THAT IN THE YEAR"
"2000 IN IRAQ, THERE WERE"
APPROXIMATELY FOUR MILLION
"CHRISTIANS, AND TODAY IT"
STANDS ON APPROXIMATELY
"300,000.00"
[SPEAKING A FOREIGNLANGUAGE]
Through Translator:
"IN SYRIA, THERE WERE TWO"
"MILLION, AND RECENTLY THE"
"ESTIMATE IS AT 250,000"
CHRISTIANS.
[SPEAKING A FOREIGN
LANGUAGE]
Through Translator:
"AND CLOSER TO HOME, IN"
"BETHLEHEM, UNDER THE"
"PALESTINIAN AUTHORITY,"
CHRISTIANS ARE ONLY 2% OF
THE CITY.
[SPEAKING A FOREIGN
LANGUAGE]
Through Translator:
"MY QUESTION IS, WHERE ARE"
THE CHRISTIANS?
WHERE ARE THEY GOING?
WHY ARE THEY RUNNING?
AND WHERE HAVE THEY RUN
TO?
[SPEAKING A FOREIGN
LANGUAGE]
Through Translator:
HE SAYS HE FEELS IF YOU
"LOOK BACK IN HISTORY,"
CHRISTIANS HAVE HAD BAD
"TIMES, TIMES OF"
"PERSECUTION, AND THEY'VE"
HAD GOOD TIMES.
IT SEEMS TO BE UP TO THE
POLITICAL INTEREST AT THE
TIME.
[SPEAKING A FOREIGN
LANGUAGE]
Through Translator:
BUT WHAT WE FIND OURSELVES
IN NOW IS A DANGEROUS
SITUATION FOR THE ENTIRE
MIDDLE EAST.
AND THE TERROR IN THE
REGION RISES ON A DAILY
BASIS.
" Erick: FATHER, I"
THINK IT IS STUNNING TO
SEE HOW THE POPULATION IN
BETHLEHEM HAS CHANGED.
"AS YOU SAID, 2% -- THAT"
WAS A MUCH DIFFERENT
"STORY, REALLY, BEFORE"
"1995, AND LEBANON AS WELL"
HAS COMPLETELY CHANGED THE
DEMOGRAPHICS.
CHRISTIANS ARE A MINORITY
NOW.
WHY IS THIS HAPPENING?
Through Translator:
IT'S A WAR OF RELIGION.
Erick: AND THAT'S THE
ISLAMIC JIHADISTS AND
ISLAMISTS HAVE BASICALLY
DECLARED WAR ON FOLLOWERS
OF JESUS?
[SPEAKING A FOREIGN
LANGUAGE]
Through Translator:
"YOU KNOW, AND ALL OF THE"
"VIEWERS KNOW, CHRISTIANITY"
"IS A LOVE OF LOVE,"
"FORGIVENESS, AND PEACE."
[SPEAKING A FOREIGN
LANGUAGE]
Through Translator:
SINCE THE BEGINNING OF
"CHRISTIANITY, THE"
CHRISTIANS HAVE ALWAYS
TAUGHT AND PREACHED OF
LOVE AND APPRECIATION.
[SPEAKING A FOREIGNLANGUAGE]
Through Translator:
AND THAT IT IS EXTREMELY
PAINFUL THAT YOU GIVE ON
"ONE SIDE LOVE, AND WHAT"
YOU GET BACK IS A KNIFE.
[SPEAKING A FOREIGN
LANGUAGE]
Through Translator:
AND EVEN HARDER WHEN THE
MESSIAH SAYS TO LOVE YOUR
ENEMIES.
HE KNEW THAT WE WOULD HAVE
ENEMIES.
[SPEAKING A FOREIGN
LANGUAGE]
Through Translator:
AND THEY WOULD NOT WANT
ANY PART IN THE MESSAGE
THAT WE HAVE FOR THE
WORLD.
[SPEAKING A FOREIGN
LANGUAGE]
Through Translator:
BUT HE IS LEARNING THAT IF
"YOU GIVE LOVE, IT DOESN'T"
MEAN THAT YOU HAVE TO LET
THEM KILL YOU.
[SPEAKING A FOREIGN
LANGUAGE]
Through Translator:
THAT YOU BELIEVE IN LIFE
AND THE OTHER BELIEVES IN
DEATH.
Erick: HOW IS ISRAEL
DIFFERENT FOR CHRISTIANS?
"THE SITUATION IN ISRAEL,"
"IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN,"
"FATHER, THE CHRISTIAN"
"POPULATION IN ISRAEL,"
WHILE IT IS DECREASING IN
"THE MUSLIM LANDS, THE"
CHRISTIAN POPULATION IN
ISRAEL IS ACTUALLY
"INCREASING, WHICH IS"
PRETTY AMAZING.
TALK ABOUT LIFE FOR
CHRISTIANS IN ISRAEL.
A GOOD QUESTION.
THANK YOU.
[SPEAKING A FOREIGN
LANGUAGE]
Through Translator:
IN THE 1970s AND '80s
"IN ISRAEL, THE AMOUNT OF"
CHRISTIANS IN ISRAEL WAS
"57,000.00"
[SPEAKING A FOREIGNLANGUAGE]
Through Translator:
TODAY THE NUMBER IS
"160,000.00"
THAT MEANS IT IS
INCREASING.
[SPEAKING A FOREIGN
LANGUAGE]
Through Translator:
EVEN THOUGH THE CHRISTIANS
DON'T HAVE SO MANY
CHILDREN.
[LAUGHTER]
[SPEAKING A FOREIGN
LANGUAGE]
Through Translator:
THE CHRISTIANS IN ISRAEL
HAVE FREEDOM OF RELIGION.
THEY LIVE IN DEMOCRACY AND
THEY'RE SAFE.
[SPEAKING A FOREIGN
LANGUAGE]
Through Translator:
THEY STUDY IN
UNIVERSITIES.
WE HAVE ECONOMIC
PROSPERITY.
THEY ENJOY ALL OF THE
FIELDS OF LIFE IN A
DEMOCRATIC COUNTRY.
[SPEAKING A FOREIGN
LANGUAGE]
Through Translator:
"HE SAYS, I WANT TO SAY TO"
YOU THAT THE ONLY SAFE
PLACE LEFT IN THE MIDDLE
EAST FOR CHRISTIANS IS
ISRAEL.
"IN ISRAEL, WE'RE NOT"
PERSECUTED.
AND GIRLS AREN'T RAPED.
[SPEAKING A FOREIGNLANGUAGE]
Through Translator:
AND THEY DON'T BURN OUR
CHURCHES.
[SPEAKING A FOREIGN
LANGUAGE]
Through Translator: I
BELIEVE THE WORLD NEEDS TO
LOOK AT THESE FACTS AND
LOOK AT THEM CLOSELY SO
THAT THEY CAN ALSO SEE AND
GUIDE THEMSELVES ON WHICH
DECISIONS THEY SHOULD
"MAKE, AND SUPPORT ISRAEL,"
AND NOT WEAKEN IT.
IF THEY DECIDE TO WEAKEN
"IT, THEY ARE GIVING A"
DEATH SENTENCE TO THE
CHRISTIANS LEFT IN THE
MIDDLE EAST.
" Erick: FATHER, THAT'S"
WHY I THINK IT IS SO GOOD
YOU SPOKE ABOUT THIS IN
FRONT OF THE UNITED
NATIONS.
THAT IS AN ORGANIZATION
THAT NEEDED TO HEAR YOUR
MESSAGE.
WE'RE COMING BACK WITH
MUCH MORE WITH FATHER
NADOFF AND EMILY AFTER THE
BREAK.
YOU DON'T WANT TO MISS IT.
STICK AROUND.
Eric: AND WELCOME
BACK.
WE'RE HONORED TO BE JOINED
TODAY BY FATHER GABRIELLE
"NADOFF, COMING FROM US"
FROM ISRAEL.
AND EMILY IS AN
"INTERPRETER, TRANSLATOR,"
AND THEY MAKE A GREAT
TEAM.
IT IS GREAT TO HAVE YOU.
"FATHER, BEFORE THE BREAK,"
YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT THE
SITUATION IN ISRAEL FOR
CHRISTIANS.
"YOU HAVE EVANGELICALS,"
"CATHOLICS, ORTHODOX, AND"
ALL BRANCHES OF
CHRISTIANITY ARE WELCOME
OR FREE IN ISRAEL.
WHAT MADE YOU DECIDE TO
TAKE A STAND AND START
SPEAKING OUT.
YOU'RE VERY BOLD AND
YOU'RE TELLING THE TRUTH.
AND IT'S NOT POPULAR IN
"YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD,"
"PROBABLY, BUT YOU'RE"
SPEAKING OUT AND
ENCOURAGING YOUNG ARABS TO
FULLY INTEGRATE INTO
"ISRAELI SOCIETY, INCLUDING"
"THE MILITARY, THE I.D.F."
WHAT MADE YOU DECIDE TO
"TAKE THIS STAND, TO SPEAK"
OUT?
WHY NOW?
[SPEAKING A FOREIGNLANGUAGE]
Through Translator:
I'VE ALWAYS BELIEVE THAT
THE PATH TO LEADING A GOOD
LIFE IS THE INTEGRATION OF
ALL OF THE CITIZENS
TOGETHER.
[SPEAKING A FOREIGN
LANGUAGE]
Through Translator:
"IT'S VERY DIFFICULT, AND"
"PRACTICALLY ABSURD, FOR"
CITIZENS TO LIVE TOGETHER
IN ONE COUNTRY AND
"CONSTANTLY FIGHT, AND NOT"
WORK TOGETHER TO DEVELOP
IT AND SAVE IT.
[SPEAKING A FOREIGN
LANGUAGE]
Through Translator:
WHAT BROUGHT ME PERSONALLY
TO START SPEAKING OPENLY
"ABOUT THE SITUATION, IN MY"
"OPINION, WAS THE RECENT"
ARAB SPRING AND THE MIDDLE
EAST.
[SPEAKING A FOREIGN
LANGUAGE]
Through Translator: I
FELT LIKE IF THIS WASN'T
"THE RIGHT TIME TO DO IT,"
THEN WHEN WOULD BE?
I SEE THE TERROR INCHING
CLOSER TO ISRAEL.
[SPEAKING A FOREIGN
LANGUAGE]
Through Translator:
AND I SEE THAT ISRAEL
"STANDS ON THE FRONT LINES,"
OPPOSING THE TERROR.
[SPEAKING A FOREIGN
LANGUAGE]
Through Translator:
THIS APPROACHING TERROR IS
A THREAT TO OUR LIVES AND
CAN THREATEN OUR ACTUAL
EXISTENCE.
[SPEAKING A FOREIGNLANGUAGE]
Through Translator:
TERROR IS NOT A GAME.
IT IS A DANGER TO YOUR
LIFE.
[SPEAKING A FOREIGN
LANGUAGE]
Through Translator:
SO I CALLED OUT TO THE
CHRISTIANS THAT LIVE IN
"ISRAEL TO GO TO THE ARMY,"
JUST LIKE EVERY CHRISTIAN
IN EVERY OTHER COUNTRY
"WOULD GO TO THE ARMY, IF"
IN NEED.
AND THE SAME GOES FOR THE
ISRAELI CHRISTIAN
POPULATION DEFENDING THE
STATE OF ISRAEL.
[SPEAKING A FOREIGN
LANGUAGE]
Through Translator:
JUST LIKE THE OTHER
"MINORITIES IN ISRAEL, LIKE"
"THE DREWS AND THE BEDWI,"
WHO HAVE ALL GONE TO THE
MILITARY AND INTEGRATED AS
WELL.
[SPEAKING A FOREIGN
LANGUAGE]
[SPEAKING A FOREIGNLANGUAGE]
Through Translator:
"AND HE IS EXTREMELY HAPPY,"
DESPITE THE MINOR PEOPLE
IN ISRAEL WHO HAD ISSUES
WITH HIS ACTIONS AND
DIDN'T REALLY AGREE WITH
HIM.
HE IS HAPPY TO SAY THAT
THERE HAS BEEN A HUGE
INCREASE IN THE
RECRUITMENT OF CHRISTIAN
ARABS -- CHRISTIAN
ISRAELIS TO THE ARMY.
IF IT WAS ABOUT 30 TO 35
PER YEAR BEFORE HE BEGAN
HIS MOVEMENT.
AND NOW IT IS AROUND 150
IN 2013.
Erick: WOW.
Through Translator:
NOT TO JUST GO TO THE ARMY
TO BE ABLE TO HOLD A
WEAPON.
[SPEAKING A FOREIGN
LANGUAGE]
Through Translator:
WE'RE NOT SENDING OUR BOYS
TO KILL.
BUT TO DEFEND.
[SPEAKING A FOREIGN
LANGUAGE]
Through Translator:
AND HE SAYS THAT THE
CHRISTIANS IN ISRAEL ARE
SLOWLY STARTING TO
UNDERSTAND THAT THEY LIVED
FOR YEARS UNDER A MYTH OF
THE ISLAMIC RULERS IN THE
"AREA, AND THAT THEY WERE"
"USED IN A CONFLICT, THAT"
THE PALESTINIAN MUSLIMS
WERE HAVING WITH ISRAEL.
Erick: WE NEED TO
KEEP IT RIGHT THERE.
WE'LL COME BACK RIGHT
AFTER THE COMMERCIAL.
I DON'T MEAN TO CUT YOU
OFF.
MORE AFTER THE BREAK WITH
FATHER NADOFF AND WITH
EMILY.
STAY TUNED.
MUCH MORE TO COME.
STICK AROUND.
Erick: WELCOME BACK.
WE'RE TALKING TO FATHER
"GABRIEL NADOFF, AND EMILY,"
"FROM ""THE FACE OF ISRAEL,"""
AND WE'RE TALKING ABOUT
THE SITUATION FOR
CHRISTIANS IN THE MIDDLE
"EAST, AND HOW THE"
SITUATION FOR CHRISTIANS
"IN ISRAEL IS VERY, VERY"
DIFFERENT THAN WHERE WHAT
IS GOING ON IN THE
COUNTRIES AROUND THEM.
"FATHER, TELL US A LITTLE"
BIT ABOUT YOURSELF.
YOU WERE BORN AND RAISED
"IN NAZARETH, FROM MY"
UNDERSTANDING.
TELL US ABOUT YOUR
UPBRINGING AND HOW YOU
"BECAME SUCH A BOLD VOICE,"
"ON THE WORLD STAGE NOW,"
FOR ISRAEL AND FOR
CHRISTIANS IN ISRAEL.
[SPEAKING A FOREIGN
LANGUAGE]
Through Translator: I
WAS BORN IN NAZARETH.
"I GREW UP IN NAZARETH, THE"
BLESSED CITY.
THERE IS THE ANGEL
"GABRIEL, BLESSED MARY, AND"
WHERE THE MESSIAH GREW UP.
I TOOK THE NAME OF THAT
"ANGEL, THE ANGEL GABRIEL."
[SPEAKING A FOREIGN
LANGUAGE]
Through Translator: I
FEEL THAT MY POSITION AND
MY JOURNEY IN LIFE IS
DESTINED FROM GOD.
[SPEAKING A FOREIGN
LANGUAGE]
Through Translator: I
HAVE STUDIED THE HOLY
"SCRIPTURES, AND I HAVE"
"LEARNED THE THEOLOGY, AND"
I HAVE A DUTY AND A DEMAND
FROM GOD TO SPEAK THE
TRUTH.
[SPEAKING A FOREIGN
LANGUAGE]
Through Translator:
"JUST LIKE OUR LORD, THE"
"MESSIAH, WHOM, HIMSELF,"
GAVE HIS LIFE IN HONOR OF
IT.
[SPEAKING A FOREIGN
LANGUAGE]
Through Translator:
AND THAT THROUGHOUT THE
OLD TESTAMENT AND THE NEW
"TESTAMENT, THE LORD SHOWS"
"US 365 TIMES, DO NOT BE"
AFRAID.
[SPEAKING A FOREIGN
LANGUAGE]
Through Translator:
"AND SO EVERY DAY HE SAYS,"
"DO NOT BE AFRAID, AS LONG"
AS YOU'RE WALKING THE PATH
OF TRUTH.
SO I'M NOT AFRAID.
FROM ANYONE.
[SPEAKING A FOREIGN
LANGUAGE]
Through Translator:
BECAUSE I BELIEVE IN THE
"TRUTH, THAT THE MESSIAH"
HAS GIVEN US.
Erick: THEY ARE THE
ORIGINAL ISLAMIC TERRORIST
GROUP.
THEY SPAWNED al-QAEDA
AND HAMAS.
THEY'RE AMERICA'S NEXT
"GREAT ENEMY, AND THEY'RE"
IN YOUR BACKYARD.
IF YOU WANT TO UNDERSTAND
"THE WAR ON TERROR, YOU"
MUST FIRST UNDERSTAND THE
MUSLIM BROTHERHOOD.
PICK UP MY NEW BOOK.
" Erick: FATHER, FIRST"
"OF ALL, OUR PRAYERS ARE"
WITH YOU.
OUR SUPPORT IS WITH YOU.
YOU HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE
WHO LOVE YOU HERE IN THE
UNITED STATES WHO SUPPORT
YOU.
WE ONLY HAVE ABOUT 40
"SECONDS LEFT, SO WE HAVE"
TO BE QUICK.
DO YOU HAVE A FINAL QUICK
WORD FOR US OF
"ENCOURAGEMENT, ANYTHING"
ELSE YOU WOULD LIKE TO SAY
IN THE BRIEF TIME WE HAVE?
[SPEAKING A FOREIGNLANGUAGE]
Through Translator: I
WOULD LIKE TO TELL THE
WORLD THAT ANYONE LOOKING
FOR THE TRUTH...TO FIND
"THE TRUTH, TO STAND BY THE"
TRUTH AND PUT ASIDE ALL
POLITICAL INTERESTS AND TO
JUST GO WITH WHAT'S RIGHT.
[SPEAKING A FOREIGN
LANGUAGE]
Through Translator:
AND ISRAEL IS THE LAND OF
"GOD, AND THE LIGHT UNTO"
THE NATIONS.
AND IF ISRAEL DOESN'T
"STAND, IT WILL BE THE"
DISASTER OF THE WORLD.
" Erick: FATHER, THANK"
YOU SO MUCH.
"GOD BLESS YOU, MY FRIEND."
I HOPE TO SEE YOU IN
ISRAEL SOON AGAIN.
"EMILY, THANK YOU."
YOU MAKE A GREAT TEAM.
THANKS FOR JOINING US HERE
"ON ""THE WATCHMAN."""
"GOD BLESS YOU, AND"
"REMEMBER, NEVER HOLD YOUR"
PEACE.