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700 Club Interactive: Free and Whole - July 17, 2014

Life’s disappointments can leave us broken. After the divorce of her parents, watch how one young woman finds freedom in the most unlikely place. Read Transcript


THE REAL WAR ON WOMEN,

AND IT'S NOT WHAT YOU

THINK.

FOX NEWS KATIE PAVELIC

EXPLAINS.

AND THEN, LIVING A LIE.

I THOUGHT I WAS STUPID

OVER AND OVER.

I CAN'T EVEN COUNT THE

NUMBER OF TIMES I WAS

HOSPITALIZED.

PLUS, A FELLOW STARING AT

LIFE IN PRISON IS

MYSTERIOUSLY SET FREE.

THE ATTORNEY STANDS UP,

AND SHE SAYS, I DON'T KNOW

WHY I'M DOING THIS.

Pat: WELL, WELCOME,

FOLKS, TO THIS EDITION OF

"THE 700 CLUB."

WE'RE DELIGHTED TO HAVE YOU

WITH US.

THIS THING IN THE MIDDLE

EAST IS HEATING UP,

OBVIOUSLY.

THE HAMAS HAS REJECTED A

CEASE-FIRE PROPOSAL.

I WAS ASKING MYSELF TODAY,

AND YOU CAN DO THE SAME

THING: WHAT ISRAEL WANT TO

GET INVOLVED IN GAZA.

WOULD IT BE A SWAMP LIKE

VIETNAM WAS TO THE UNITED

STATES?

WHAT COULD HAPPEN?

THEY WANT TO GO IN AND GET

RID OF THE ROCKET-LAUNCHERS

THAT HAMAS HAS USED BY

SENDING SEVERAL THOUSAND

ROCKETS AGAINST ISRAEL, BUT

HOW MUCH INVOLVEMENT DO THEY

WANT.

YOU CAN IMAGINE THE PEOPLE

IN ISRAEL ARE SAYING, WE'RE

NOT SURE.

WE'RE GOING TO HAVE AN

INDEPTH REPORT ON THAT, AND

OTHER INTERESTING THINGS,

INCLUDING THE WAR ON WOMEN.

WENDY?

Wendy: LOOKING FORWARD

TO THAT.

SOME ARE SAYING HAMAS IS

ONLY HURTING ITSELF BY

PROMOTING A GROUND MISSION.

CHRIS MITCHELL HAS MORE.

Reporter: DIPLOMACY

FAILED TO CONVINCE HAMAS TO

STOP THEIR FIGHTING.

SINCE THE PROPOSED

CEASE-FIRE, THEY SHOT DOZENS

OF ROCKETS INTO ISRAEL.

SEVERAL HIT AND ONE KILLED

AN ISRAELI RIGHT NEXT TO THE

BORDER.

THE ENTIRE WORLD CALLED

UPON THEM TO END THE FIRE.

IF THEY CONTINUE, DESPITE

THE PROPOSAL, THEY WILL ONLY

BRING MORE SUFFERING TO

THEIR OWN PEOPLE.

Reporter: THE BREAKDOWN

OF THE CEASE-FIRE MAKES THE

POSSIBILITY OF A GROUND

OFFENSIVE MORE LIKELY.

THAT MEANS URBAN WARFARE,

HOUSE TO HOUSE FIGHTING, AND

THE POSSIBILITY OF MORE

CASUALTIES ON BOTH SIDES.

SOME EXPERTS SAY THAT'S THE

ONLY WAY TO ELIMINATE THE

THREAT FROM HAMAS ROCKETS.

WE SHOOT AND WANT TO DO

GROUND OPERATION.

THIS IS THE ONLY WAY THAT

THE OTHER SIDE WILL

UNDERSTAND THAT WE ARE

REALLY IN MIND TO KEEP OUR

PEOPLE TO LIVE HERE.

Reporter: KOBE MICHAELS

SAYS HAMAS MAY BE COMMITTING

POLITICAL SUICIDE.

NOW, WHEN THEY ACTUALLY

AGGRESSIVELY, AND MAINLY,

AND ESPECIALLY WHEN THEY

JUST REJECTED THE EGYPTIAN

PROPOSAL FOR THE CEASE-FIRE,

ACTUALLY, THEY MIGHT DRAG

ISRAEL TO A MUCH BROADER

GROUND OPERATION IN THE GAZA

STRIP STRIP, AND THE END

RESULT WILL BE THE LOSS OF

THEIR POLITICAL POWER IN THE

GAZA STRIP.

Reporter: MANY

RESIDENTS OF SDEROT, NEXT TO

GAZA, FEEL FOR THE PEOPLE

THERE, BUT THEY SAY THEY DO

WHAT THEY CAN TO PROTECT THE

CIVILIANS.

WE DO MORE TO PROTECT THE

CIVIL CASUALTIES.

BUT ISRAEL IS ONLY THE ONE

ARM OF THE WORLD THAT WILL

GIVE YOU SO MANY WARNINGS.

TO TELL PEOPLE, WE'RE GOING

TO BOMB HERE, GET OUT.

THEY'RE TRYING TO TARGET

WHERE ALL OF THE ROCKETS

ARE, SO THEY TRY TO DO THE

BEST SO THAT THEY CAN GET

PEOPLE OUT OF THE FIRE

ZONE.

Reporter: ISRAEL'S

CAMPAIGN INTENSIFIED, AND

BENJAMIN NETANYAHU SAID,

WITHOUT A CEASE-FIRE,

ISRAEL'S ANSWER IS FIRE.

THE I.D.F. ESTIMATES THEY

HAVE DESTROYED ABOUT

ONE-THIRD OF THE HAMAS

ROCKETS, MUCH OF THE

CAPABILITY TO MAKE THOSE

ROCKETS, AND MANY OF THE

HEADQUARTERS OF THE

COMMANDERS.

BUT WHETHER THAT CAN FORCE

THEM INTO A CEASE-FIRE

REMAINS TO BE SEEN.

CHRIS MITCHELL, ON THE HAMAS

BORDER.

Pat: IF THE ISRAELIS

GET DEEPLY INVOLVED IN A

GROUND WAR WITH GAZA, THEN

HEZBOLLAH HITS THEM.

AND SOME OF THE RADICAL

GROUPS IN SYRIA COME ACROSS

THE BORDER FROM THAT PART,

AND IRAN COMES IN.

IT IS A VERY TOUCHY THING.

I WOULD THINK STRATEGICALLY

OUR ISRAELI FRIENDS WOULD BE

VERY, VERY WISE TO EXERCISE

CAUTION AND SAY WE JUST

CAN'T GET INTO THAT SWAMP.

BUT I'M NOT SURE THAT THAT

COUNCIL IS GOING TO BE

FOLLOWED.

I HOPE IT IS.

WELL, HERE AT HOME, THE

DEMOCRATS IN THE SENATE ARE

ARE CREATING A NEW BILL.

THEY SAY IT IS GOING TO

PROTECT WOMEN'S HEALTH, BUT

CRITICS SAY THEIR REAL

AGENDA IS SOMETHING ELSE.

JOHN JESSUP HAS MORE ON THAT

STORY FROM WASHINGTON.

John: PAT, SOME

PRO-LIFERS CALL THE NEW

MEASURE THE MOST RADICAL

ABORTION ILL EVER SUPPORTED

BY CONGRESS.

OPPONENTS SAY CONGRESS IS

TRAMPLING ON STATES'

RIGHTS.

PAUL STRAND HAS THE STORY

FROM CAPITOL HILL.

Reporter: THE SENATE IS

NOW CONSIDERING A BILL THAT

MANY PRO-LIFE GROUPS WARN

WOULD GUT ALMOST EVERY

MEANINGFUL RESTRICTION ON

ABORTION.

THE BILL BEING ADVANCED

TODAY WOULD LITERALLY

OVERTURN HUNDREDS OF

PRO-LIFE, PRO-WOMEN LAWS

ACROSS THE COUNTRY.

WE'RE TALKING LAWS TO SEND

SEX-SELECTION ABORTION,

THIRD TRIMESTER ABORTION.

Reporter: AND WHY WOULD

THEY PUSH AN AGENDA IN

COUNTRIES THAT POLLS SHOW

ARE PRO-LIFE.

THEY MIGHTING LOOKING TO THE

FACT THEY MIGHT LOSE CONTROL

OF THE SENATE.

THEY COULD SEE THIS AS A

LAST CHANCE TO PASS ANY

SERIOUS LEGISLATION.

AND CO-SPONSORS OF THIS BILL

SAY IT IS NEEDED TO

COUNTERACT WHAT THEY LABEL

UNDERHANDED LAWS.

IN JUST THE LAST THREE

YEARS --

STATES ACROSS THIS

COUNTRY HAVE ENACTED A TOTAL

OF 205 PROVISIONS THAT

RESTRICT WOMEN'S ACCESS TO

SAFE ABORTION SERVICES.

THESE OBSTACLES HAVE PUT

MANY WOMEN IN DESPERATE

CIRCUMSTANCES, SOME OF WHICH

MAY VERY WELL ENDANGER THEIR

LIVES.

WE NEED LAWS THAT PUT

WOMEN'S HEALTH AND SAFETY

FIRST.

NOT POLITICS.

200 OF THESE UNDERHANDED

LAWS HAVE BEEN PASSED, AND

IT IS NOT RIGHT THAT WOMEN

SHOULD HAVE TO GO TO COURT

YEAR AFTER YEAR AFTER YEAR

TO GET THE MEDICAL SERVICES

THAT THE CONSTITUTION

GUARANTEES THEM.

Reporter: BUT SOME

TESTIFYING AT THIS HEARING

SAID THE BILL IS ACTUALLY AN

UNCONSTITUTIONAL ATTACK ON

THE STATES.

ESSENTIALLY THIS LAW GUTS

STATES' RIGHTS WITH RESPECT

TO ABORTION.

IT CREATES ABORTION AS A

SPECIAL PROTECTED CLASS OF

PROCEDURE, AND ABORTION

PROVIDERS AS A SPECIAL

PROTECTED CLASS OF

PROVIDERS.

Reporter: AND

REPRESENTATIVE MARSHA

BLACKBURN WARNED DEMOCRATS

THEY RISKING THEIR PARTY.

MANY CONCEDE THIS BODY IS

OUT OF TOUCH WITH THE

CONSENSUS OPINION IN THIS

COUNTRY.

POLLS AND POLLS SHOW TIME

AND AGAIN THAT THE AMERICAN

PEOPLE SUPPORT LIMITS ON

ABORTION.

Reporter: PAUL STRAND,

CBN NEWS, CAPITOL HILL.

PAT, ONE HEADLINE

DESCRIBED THIS BILL AS

TOUCHING OFF THE POLITICAL

WAR ON ABORTION.

Pat: WE'RE GOING TO BE

TALKING WITH AN AUTHOR WHO

TALKS ABOUT THE PHONY WAR ON

WOMEN THAT HAS BEEN RAISED,

AND THIS IS JUST ONE MORE

PART OF THAT GAME.

BUT THE TRUTH IS, LADIES AND

GENTLEMEN, SOME OF THE

ABORTION CLINICS ARE

APPALLING.

THEY BRING THESE WOMEN IN

AND PUT THEM ON DIRTY SHEETS

THAT SOMEBODY ELSE HAS HAD

AN ABORTION AHEAD OF THEM

ON.

THERE IS NO AN ANTISEPTIC

PROCEDURES.

THEY ARE FACTORIES.

I'M HEAD OF THE CENTER FOR

LAW AND JUSTICE, AND I DON'T

DO MUCH, EXCEPT HAVE A

TITLE, BUT, NEVERTHELESS,

THAT ORGANIZATION HAS A

LAWSUIT AGAINST PLANNED

PARENTHOOD OF CALIFORNIA.

A WHISTLE-BLOWER IN PLANNED

PARENTHOOD HAS INDICATED

THAT PLANNED PARENTHOOD HAS

TRIPLED BILLED THE UNITED

STATES GOVERNMENT FOR

PROCEDURES THAT THEY CLAIM

THEY PROVIDED.

AND WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TENS

AND TENS OF MILLIONS OF

DOLLARS OF FRAUDULENT

ACTIVITY.

AND IT'S TIME SOMEBODY

STARTS SAYING, LOOK, THIS IS

NONSENSE, THIS HAS NOTHING

TO DO WITH WOMEN.

WE WANT TO GIVE HEALTH TO

WOMEN.

BUT THESE CLINICS SHOULD BE

LICENSED.

THE PEOPLE PERFORMING THESE

PROCEDURES SHOULD BE SKILLED

MEDICAL TECHNICIANS.

THIS IS CARVING UP THE MOST

INTIMATE PART OF A WOMAN.

AND BOTCHED ABORTIONS LEAD

TO DEATH.

AND THIS BUSINESS ABOUT SAFE

ABORTIONS IS JUST NONSENSE.

THEY'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT

SAFE ABORTION.

THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT A FULL

ABORTION FOR ANYBODY, ANY

TIME, ANYWHERE.

AND THE AMERICAN PEOPLE

DON'T WANT THAT.

SO I DON'T KNOW WHAT

CONGRESS IS TRYING TO PULL,

BUT IT IS NOT GOING

ANYWHERE.

THE HOUSE ISN'T GOING TO

PASS SOMETHING LIKE THIS, SO

IT'S NOT GOING TO HAPPEN.

BUT IT IS JUST A GAME.

WE'LL TALK MORE ABOUT THAT

WITH A LADY WHO IS AN

EXPERT, AND IT WILL CHILL

YOU WHEN YOU HEAR WHAT SHE

HAS GOT TO SAY.

JOHN?

John: PAT, THE DRILLING

TECHNOLOGY OF FRACKING HAS

DELIVERED HUGE ECONOMIC

BENEFITS TO SOME PARTS OF

THE COUNTRY, BUT OPPONENTS

ARGUE IT CONTAMINATES WATER

SUPPLIES AND AIR QUALITY.

THE CITY OF DENTON IN NORTH

TEXAS SITS ON A LARGE

NATURAL GAS RESERVE, AND IT

CURRENTLY ALLOWS FRACKING.

BUT SOME RESIDENTS PUT

TOGETHER A PETITION TO BANNU

BAN FRACKING PERMITS.

AND THE CITY REJECTED THAT

IDEA, BUT THE CITY WILL GET

TO VOTE ON IT.

Reporter: THE CITY OF

DENTON, TEXAS, IS SPLIT ON

WHETHER FRACKING HELPS OR

HURTS THE COMMUNITY.

DENTON SITS ON A NATURAL GAS

RESERVE, AND FRACKING

RELEASES ITS TRAPPED OIL AND

GAS BY BLASTING WATER, SAND

AND CHEMICALS DEEP INTO

UNDERGROUND ROCK.

FRACKING HAS MADE MAJOR

IMPROVEMENTS IN THE U.S.

ECONOMY.

Reporter: BELIEVE IT OR

NOT, THE WORLD'S TOP OIL

PRODUCER RIGHT NOW IS NOT

SAUDI ARABIA OR ANY OTHER

MIDDLE EASTERN COUNTRY.

IT IS THE U.S.

AND FRACKING IS A BIG REASON

WHY.

THIS IS NOT A BOOM THAT

IS GOING TO FIZZLE IN THREE

OR FOUR OR FIVE YEARS.

THIS IS GOING TO BE A

LONG-TIME, A 30-YEAR BOOM.

Reporter: AND FRACKING

IS ALSO BOOSTING THE ECONOMY

IN NORTH DAKOTA.

OIL PRODUCTION IN THE STATE

HAS ZOOMED UP 600% IN THE

LAST SEVEN YEARS.

SUCH ECONOMIC BENEFITS ARE

SIGNIFICANT.

BUT THOSE WHO OPPOSE

FRACKING IN PLACES LIKE

DENTON SAY THE ENVIRONMENTAL

AND HEALTH CONCERNS CANNOT

BE IGNORED.

SINCE THE FRACKING

STARTED, MY CHILDREN HAVE

HAD HEADACHES, COUGHING, AND

NOSE BLEEDS.

Reporter: IF DENTON

VOTES AGAINST FRACKING THIS

FALL, IT WILL BECOME THE

FIRST CITY IN THIS TOP OIL

AND GAS PRODUCING STATE TO

SAY NO TO THE NEW

TECHNOLOGY.

THAT'S WHAT HAPPENED IN

DENTON IS CONSIDERED A

LITMUS TEST ON THE FUTURE OF

FRACKING.

HEATHER CELLS, CBN NEWS.

John: PAT, THERE IS NO

DENYING THAT FRACKING HAS

BROUGHT AN ECONOMIC BOOM.

Pat: THE MAJORITY OF

THE OIL IN THE UNITED STATES

IS IN THE SHALE.

THAT'S WHERE IT IS, LOCATED

IN THE SHALE, DEEP

UNDERGROUND.

AND THIS TECHNIQUE THAT WAS

DISCOVERED BY A TEXAS OIL

MAN SAYS IF YOU GET A

VERTICAL WELL DOWN AND YOU

CAN GO HORIZONTAL FOR A

CERTAIN LENGTH.

THEY FOUND IF THEY GO OUT AS

MUCH AS 1200, 1500 FEET AND

SO FORTH, THE YIELDS GO UP

DRAMATICALLY.

THESE WELLS ARE YIELDING A

THOUSAND BARRELS A DAY,

2,000, 5,000 -- IT IS

EXTRAORDINARY WHAT THEY'RE

GETTING OUT OF THEM.

THEY'RE EXPENSIVE.

THEY DON'T COME CHEAP.

BUT, NEVERTHELESS, THE

FRACKING PART OF IT IS

ABSOLUTELY SAFE.

THE PIPES ARE SEALED.

THERE IS NONE OF THIS FLUID

OR THE SAND THAT GETS LOOSE

IN THE ENVIRONMENT.

IT JUST DOESN'T.

NOW, THEY HAVE BEEN FLARING

SOME OF THESE FRACKED WELLS

BECAUSE THEY'VE HAD SO MUCH

NATURAL GAS, AND SO THEY'VE

BEEN BURNING THAT AND THAT

HAS BEEN HURTING THE

ENVIRONMENT.

SO THEY'RE PUTTING

REGULATIONS DOWN ON THE USE

OF THE FLARING.

IT NEEDS TO BE CAPTURED, THE

NATURAL GAS.

BUT THERE ARE TWO BIG

SHAILS.

BU SHALES.

BUT THE BARNETT IS THE ONE

IN NORTH TEXAS AND THEY'RE

IN DENTON, AND THEY'RE VERY,

VERY PROLIFIC.

UP IN NORTH DAKOTA, IT IS

CALLED THE BOCKEN SHALE.

AND THERE IS ANOTHER SHALE

CALLED THE EAGLE SHALE,

WHICH IS VERY HOT IN TEXAS,

AND THE RIGS ARE GOING NIGHT

AND DAY TO BRING THIS OUT.

AND AMERICA HAS NOW BECOME

NUMBER ONE IN THE WORLD IN

THE PRODUCTION OF OIL,

EXCEEDING SAUDI ARABIA AND

RUSSIA.

SO THIS ISN'T SOMETHING YOU

WANT TO PLAY WITH.

AND I CANNOT CONCEIVE THAT

PEOPLE IN TEXAS, WHICH HAVE

BENEFITED SO ENORMOUSLY FROM

THE OIL AND GAS INDUSTRY,

WOULD VOTE IN DENTO DENTON,

TEXAS, NORTH OF DALLAS, TO

LIMIT THE FRACKING IN THE

BARNETT SHALE, WHICH IS

UNDERLYING THAT WHOLE AREA.

JOHN?

John: PAT, MEXICO IS

TAKING ITS CAMPAIGN AGAINST

OBESITY TO THE AIRWAVES, OR,

RATHER, OFF THE AIRWAVES.

THE GOVERNMENT WILL LIMIT

COMMERCIALS ON TV AND MOVIE

THEATERS FOR SOFT DRINKS,

SNACKS, AND OTHER HIGH

CALORIE FOODS.

THEY SAY THOSE COMMERCIALS

CANNOT BE SHOWN ON TV FROM

2:30 IN THE AFTERNOON UNTIL

9:30 AT NIGHT.

AND AT 7:00 IN THE MORNING

TO 7:30 IN THE EVENING ON

THE WEEKENDS.

THE GOVERNMENT HAD ALREADY

LEVIED TAXES ON HIGH-CALORIE

FOODS AND DRINKS.

PAT, FORMER MAYOR MICHAEL

BLOOMBERG HAD A SIMILAR

CAMPAIGN AGAINST SODA IN NEW

YORK.

WHAT'S YOUR TAKE ON THE

GOVERNMENT GETTING INVOLVED

AND ISSUES LIKE THIS?

Pat: I'M NOT IN FAN OF

THE NANNY STATE.

I THINK WE OUGHT TO BE ABLE

TO LIVE OUR LIVES.

BUT THE TRUTH IS WE'RE BEING

VICTIMIZED BY THE FOOD

INDUSTRY.

THEY'RE PUTTING STUFF INTO

THE FOOD THAT MAKES US

HUNGRY, AND MAKES US WANT TO

EAT MORE OF IT.

THE INDUSTRY SELLING BEER

HAD WHAT THEY CALLED SALT

SNACKS.

AND ONE OF THE COMPANIES

BOUGHT EAGLE BRAND BECAUSE

THEY HAD SALTY SNACKS.

SO THE IDEA WAS TO SET UP A

THING WHERE YOU ATE MORE OF

THE FOOD OR DRANK MORE OF

THEIR PRODUCT.

AND THE BIG GULP, AND ALL OF

THE REST OF IT IS LOADED

WITH SUGAR AND HIGH FRUCTOSE

CORN SYRUP, AND IT'S NOT

GOOD FOR YOU.

PERHAPS, LIKE WHAT HAPPENED

WITH THE CIGARETTE INDUSTRY,

THERE WAS A MASSIVE

CRACKDOWN ON THAT, AND MAYBE

THDTHAT'S WHERE IT OUGHT TO

BE.

BUT SELLING SOME RETAILER HE

CAN'T SELL A 32-OUNCE BUCKET

OF COKE I THINK IS

RIDICULOUS.

ALL RIGHT.

Wendy: SUGAR IS SO

ADDICTIVE.

IT IS SO ADDICTIVE.

Pat: IT IS.

IT REALLY IS.

THE REASON WE'RE FAT IS NOT

JUST THE COKES AND THE SOFT

DRINKS.

THAT'S JUST A PART OF IT.

I MEAN, LOOK AT THE

SUPER-SIZED STUFF.

THE STUFF AT

McDONALD'S --

Wendy: AND THEY HIDE

SUGAR IN EVERYTHING NOW.

Pat: EVERYTHING HAS

SUGAR.

AND HIGH FRUCTOSE CORN SYRUP

IS BAD STUFF.

OKAY.

Wendy: UP NEXT,

JOURNALIST KATIE PAVELIC

TELLS THE TRUTH ABOUT THE

REAL WAR ON WOMEN, WHEN WE

COME BACK.

Pat: WELL, IT'S GOING

TO BE THE CAMPAIGN THEME,

AND YOU'RE GOING TO HEAR IT

OVER AGAIN.

THE NASTY REPUBLICANS ARE

WAGING A WAR ON WOMEN.

THAT'S WHAT THE LIBERAL

DEMOCRATS AND SOME OF THE

MAJOR MEDIA WANTS YOU TO

BELIEVE.

BUT ONE JOURNALIST SAYS THE

REAL ASSAULT ON WOMEN IS

COMING NOT FROM THE RIGHT,

BUT THE LEFT.

TAKE A LOOK.

Reporter: THERE IS A

SHOCKING AND SUSTAINED WAR

ON WOMEN GOING ON ALL RIGHT,

BUT THE PERPETRATORS OF IT

ARE NOT CONSERVATIVES AND

THE G.O.P.

SO SAYS JOURNALIST KATIE

PAVLICH, FOX NEWS

CONTRIBUTOR AND NEWS EDITOR

AT TOWNHALL,.COM.

SHE SAYS THE PEOPLE OF THE

WOMEN'S MOVEMENT ARE FRAUDS,

AND BARACK OBAMA IS OFTEN

CALLED THE MOST PRO-WOMAN

PRESIDENT IN HISTORY.

IF THAT'S TRUE, SHE ASKS,

WHY DOES PRESIDENT OBAMA

SEEK TO MAKE WOMEN

COMPLETELY DEPEPT ON THE

FEDERAL GOVERNMENT.

THE GROUP ABOUT THE LEFT AND

THE WAR ON WOMEN, KATIE

PAVLICH SHEDS LIFE ON ISSUES

FROM GUN CONTROL TO BIRTH

CONTROL, AND CLAIMS IT IS

THE DEMOCRATIC PART WHO ARE

UNDERMINING THE FREEDOM AND

FUTURE OF AMERICAN WOMEN.

Pat: THIS BOOK WILL

SHOCK YOU.

THERE ARE SOME PRETTY --

HAVE YOU READ ANY OF THIS?

Wendy: I HAVEN'T READ

ANY OF THIS.

I CAN'T WAIT.

Pat: KATIE IS HERE WITH

US.

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR

JOINING US.

THANKS SO MUCH FOR HAVING

ME.

IT IS GREAT TO BE HERE.

Pat: YOU HAD THIS CASE

THAT JUST CAME DOWN FROM

SUPREME COURT ABOUT HOBBY

LOBBY.

AND THE SENIOR WOMAN ON THE

COURT JUST SCREAMED ABOUT IT

IT, AND IT WAS AN ASSAULT ON

WOMEN.

IS THAT THE PARTY LINE WE'RE

GOING TO BE LISTENING TO UP

TO THE ELECTION?

IT IS ABSOLUTELY THE LINE

WE'RE GOING TO BE LISTENING

TO UP TO THE 2014 ELECTION

BECAUSE IT WAS A VERY

SUCCESSFUL LINE THAT THE

OBAMA CAMPAIGN AND DEMOCRATS

USED IN 2012.

IN TERMS OF THE HOBBY LOBBY

DECISION, IT COMES DOWN TO

THE LEFT BEING VERY

DISHONEST ABOUT WHAT THE

DECISION WAS. DESPITE THE

ENTIRE HOBBY LOBBY LEGAL

COUNCIL TEAM BEING WOMEN,

THE MEDIA IS NOT MENTIONING

THAT, AND THEY'RE FOCUSING

ON THIS BOGUS IDEA THAT FIVE

SUPREME COURT JUSTICES WHO

HAPPEN TO BE MEN ARE

METTLING IN THE LIVES OF

WOMEN WHEN IT COMES TO THE

CONTRACEPTION THEY CHOOSE.

AND ANOTHER LIE THE LEFT IS

DOING IS THAT CONTRACEPTION

IS BEING BANNED.

AND THE FACT IS BEFORE THE

SUPREME COURT RELIED ON

THIS, HOBBY LOBBY PROVIDED

16 FORMS OF CONTRACEPTION.

SO THE LEFT IS USING

DISHONEST TACTICS, AND

THEY'RE LYING TO WOMEN TO

SCARE THEM INTO VOTES.

I FIND IT PRETTY SEXEST THAT

THE LEFT IS CONTINUING TO

DEFINE WOMEN BY THE PILLS

THEY TAKE RATHER THAN THE

ISSUES THEY'RE FOCUSED AND

WORRIED ABOUT.

Pat: KATIE, YOU WENT TO

HOLLYWOOD AND YOU OPENED THE

DOORS.

YOU'VE GOT SOME PRETTY

RAUNCHY STUFF IN HERE.

INTERESTING.

YEAH.

IT'S NOT A BOOK FOR SOMEONE

WHO HAS A WEAK STOMACH,

THAT'S FOR SURE.

BUT THE FACT IS DEMOCRATS

HAVE A LONG HISTORY OF BOTH

LITERAL AND SEXUAL ASSAULT

ON WOMEN, AND ALSO VERY BAD

POLICIES FOR WOMEN WHEN IT

COMES TO GOVERNMENT

DEPENDENCE.

HOLLYWOOD IN PARTICULAR IS

SUPPOSED TO BE THIS LIBERAL

UTOPIA, BUT WHEN YOU LOOK AT

THE DETAILS, WOMEN ARE

TREATED VERY POORLY IN

HOLLYWOOD, TREATED AS SEX

OBJECTS, AND POWERFUL MEN,

LIKE ROMAN POLANSKI, WHO

RAPED A YOUNG WOMAN BEFORE

SHE WAS 18, AND WOODY ALLEN,

WHO WAS ACCUSED OF RAPING A

CHILD, ARE EXCUSED, AND THEY

NOT HELD FOR THEIR ACTIONS.

THEY WANT TO BRUSH ASIDE

THOSE ACTIONS AND EXCUSE

THEM, ESPECIALLY FOR A PLACE

LIKE HOLLYWOOD, WHICH IS

SUPPOSED TO BE A LIBERAL

UTOPIA FOR WOMEN.

Pat: I CAN GIVE YOU

SOME HORROR STORIES ABOUT

LADIES ON ONE PARTICULAR

SHOW, WHERE ONE OF THEIR JOB

REQUIREMENTS WAS TO SERVICE

THE GUESTS -- I WON'T GO

INTO THAT, BUT THAT

HAPPENS.

WHAT ABOUT THE WHITE HOUSE,

I UNDERSTAND THEY DON'T PAY

AS MUCH TO WOMEN AS THEY DO

TO MEN.

RIGHT.

BARACK OBAMA IS BILLED AS

ONE OF THE MOST PRO-WOMEN IN

HISTORY.

WE REMEMBER IN THE LIFE OF

JULIA, THEY PORTRAY THIS

WOMAN FROM BIRTH TO DEATH,

DEPENDING ON THE GOVERNMENT

FOR EVERYTHING, FROM

CONTRACEPTION TO HEALTH CARE

TO RAISING THEIR CHILD, BUT

WHY IS IT THAT FEMINISTS

WERE NOT CONCERNED ABOUT THE

OBAMA ADMINISTRATION NOT

ASKING ABOUT THE LIFE OF

JOHN.

WHY IS IT THEY ONLY

PORTRAYED WOMEN AS THE

WEAKER OF THE GENDERS, AND

NOT CAPABLE OF TAKING CAY OF

TAKING CARE OF THEMSELVES?

ON THE ISSUE OF BARACK

OBAMA, HE IS PUT FORWARD

MANY DAMAGING POLICIES ON

WOMEN, TELLING THEM THE

GOVERNMENT I WILL TAKE CARE

OF THEM.

AND STILL TO THIS DAY, SINCE

HE TOOK OFFICE IN 2009,

CLAIMING WE NEED TO HAVE

EQUAL PAY FOR WOMEN, YET IN

THIS OWN WHITE HOUSE HE HAS

PAID WOMEN SIGNIFICANTLY

LESS THAN MEN FOR THE EXACT

SAME POSITIONS IN THE WHITE

HOUSE.

AND BARACK OBAMA'S POLICIES

ARE VERY BAD FOR WOMEN.

IF YOU TAKE A LOOK AROUND

THE WORLD AT THE SOCIALIST

COUNTRIES WE HAVE, WOMEN ARE

NOT IN A BETTER POSITION

THERE THAN THEY ARE IN THE

UNITED STATES.

AND YET BARACK OBAMA IS

TRYING TO TEAR DOWN THOSE

ECONOMIC OPPORTUNITIES,

WHICH AFFECT ALL OF US.

Pat: THE FRONT-RUNNER

IN THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY FOR

PRESIDENT IS HILLARY

CLINTON.

AND WHO IS MARRIED TO BILL

CLINTON.

YOU WEREN'T TOO

COMPLIMENTARY ABOUT EITHER

OF THEM.

DO YOU WANT TO ENLARGE ON

THAT?

HILLARY CLINTON HAS BEEN

PORTRAYED AS A WOMEN'S

RIGHTS CHAMPION.

AND SHE WILL BE HELD UP AS A

WOMEN'S RIGHTS CHAMPION, BUT

WHEN YOU TAKE A LOOK AT

HILLARY CLINTON'S LONG

HISTORY, I THINK SHE'LL GO

DOWN AS HAVING A LEGACY OF

DEFENDING SOME OF THE

COUNTRY'S MOST ABUSIVE AND

POWERFUL MEN.

AND I'M NOT JUST TALKING

ABOUT HER HUSBAND, BILL

CLINTON.

IF YOU TAKE A LOOK AT HER

WORK IN THE '90s, WHEN SHE

COMPLETELY HELP DESTROY THE

MEWOMEN HER HUSBAND

SEXUALLY ABUSED.

AND SHE BRUSHED SEXUAL

ASSAULT OF MINORS OVERSEAS

UNDER THE RUG.

IF HILL CLINTON IS GOING TO

RUN AS A CHAMPION OF WOMEN

AND GIRLS, SHE DOESN'T HAVE

A GOOD HISTORY WHEN IT COMES

TO PROTECTING WOMEN FROM

SEXUAL ASSAULT, EITHER FROM

HER HUSBAND OR PEOPLE IN THE

STATE DEPARTMENT WHO TOOK

ADVANTAGE OF WOMEN OVERSEAS

DURING HER OFFICIAL TRIPS.

Pat: WHAT WOULD YOU SAY

TO REPUBLICANS?

WE HAD A GUBERNATORIAL RACE

HERE IN VIRGINIA.

BEFORE THE RACE EVEN GOT

STARTED, THE REPUBLICAN

NOMINEE WAS BARRAGED WITH

ADS ON THE IDEA HE WAS GOING

TO DESTROY THE RIGHTS OF

WOMEN.

HOW ARE THE REPUBLICANS

GOING TO COUNTER THIS?

THE FIRST STEP IS TO

ADDRESS THE ISSUE.

IN 2012, WE GAVE THE

AMERICAN ELECTORATE THE

BENEFIT OF THE DOUBT, AND

THOUGHT THAT TALKING ABOUT

CONTRACEPTION WAS BELOW THE

PUBLIC DISCOURSE.

BUT THE FACT IS YOU HAVE TO

TALK ABOUT IT.

AND BECAUSE THE REPUBLICANS

IN 2012 DIDN'T DEFINE THEIR

OWN POSITION BEFORE LIBERALS

COULD DO IT FOR THEM,

LIBERALS COULD COME IN AND

DEFINE THEM AS THEY SEE

FIT.

IT IS IMPORTANT TO GET OUT

IN FRONT OF THE ISSUE, AND

TAKE A STAND ON WHATEVER

ISSUE YOU THINK IS

IMPORTANT, AND MAKE THAT

STATEMENT AND STAND BY IT,

AND DEFINE YOURSELF BEFORE

THE LEFT IS ABLE TO DEFINE

YOU INSTEAD.

TERRY McCALL WAS ABLE TO

DEFINE SOMEONE AS A KNUCKLE

-DRAGGING PERSON.

BECAUSE HE DIDN'T GET OUT IN

FRONT AND STATE HIS

POSITION.

IT HAS TO BE ADDRESSED

QUICKLY, SWIFTLY, AT THE

BEGINNING, AND THEN THEY CAN

MOVE ON TO OTHER ISSUES.

Pat: LAST QUESTION:

WOMEN ARE AS SMART AS MEN,

SOME A LOT SMARTER, BUT WHY

ARE THEY CHEAP ON THIS

ISSUE?

WHY DO THEY BELIEVE THIS

LEFT-WING LIE?

WELL, YOU CAN'T FAULT

PEOPLE FOR NOT KNOWING

SOMETHING.

THE FACT IS THAT YOUNG WOMEN

AREN'T BEING PRESENTED WITH

THE TRUTH.

YOU CAN'T FAULT SOMEONE FOR

NOT KNOWING SOMETHING IF

THEY'VE NEVER BEEN TOLD.

THE PUBLIC EDUCATION

SYSTEM -- THE YOUNG WOMEN GO

THROUGH THAT, AND THEN THEY

GO INTO COLLEGE WHERE

THEY'RE ONLY GETTING THE

LIBERAL SIDE OF THE ARGUMENT

WHEN IT COMES

TO, QUOTE,"WOMEN'S ISSUES."

THEY'RE GETTING IT FROM

GROUPS LIKE PLANNED

PARENTHOOD THAT COME TO

CAMPUS.

NOBODY IS TELLING THEM THE

OTHER SIDE OF THE STORY.

SO YOU CAN'T FAULT THEM FOR

NOT KNOWING THAT.

MY GOAL WITH THE BOOK IS TO

GET THAT OTHER SIDE OF THE

STORY OUT TO YOUNG WOMEN.

AND TO EVERYONE.

THIS IS A BOOK FOR

BOYFRIENDS, MOMS, DADS.

IT IS IMPORTANT TO KNOW THE

HISTORY OF THE DEMOCRATIC

PARTY AND WHAT THEY'VE DONE

THAT HAS BEEN DETRIMENTAL TO

WOMEN FOR DECADES.

Pat: KATIE, THANK YOU

FOR BEING WITH US.

THE BOOK IS CALLED "ASSAULT

AND BATTERY."

AND THIS SWEET, INNOCENT

GIRL HAS STUFF IN HERE THAT

WILL CURL YOUR HAIR.

HERE.

Wendy: THANK YOU.

SHE IS A SMART LADY.

Pat: SHE HAS GOT THE

ISSUES AND SHE IS TOUGH.

THAT'S QUITE A BOOK.

WENDY, WHAT'S NEXT?

Wendy: COMING UP, A

GRAD STUDENT WHO WAS DYING

TO BE THIN.

I REMEMBER STEPPING ON

THE SCALE THAT MORNING AND

SEEING THE NUMBER 79.

AND THAT WAS THE FIRST TIME

I REALLY REMEMBER BEING

SCARED.

I DID NOT WANT TO DIEMENT

AND I DID NOT WANT TO HAVE A

HEART ATTACK AT 23 YEARS

OLD.

Wendy: FIND OUT WHAT IT

TOOK TO SAVE THIS YOUNG

WOMAN'S LIFE WHEN WE COME

BACK.

*

Wendy: LAUREN LAX GOT A

WAKEUP CALL THE DAY SHE

STEPPED ON THE SCALE AND

WEIGHED 79 POUNDS.

THAT'S RIGHT, JUST

79 POUNDS.

AT THE TIME, LAUREN WAS A

GRAD STUDENT, 23 YEARS OLD,

AND IN DANGER OF

HAVING A

HEART ATTACK.

HER STRUGGLE WITH ANOREXIA

HAD BEGUN WHEN SHE WAS JUST

A CHILD.

AS AN 11-YEAR-OLD LOOKING

AT MYSELF IN THE MIRROR,

SAYING YOU'RE FAT, UGLY AND

STUPID OVER AND OVER, I DID

NOT SEE WHAT OTHER PEOPLE

SAW, AND THAT WAS A GIRL

THAT WAS SICK AND JUST

STRUGGLING AND EMACIATED.

I WAS A VERY AVERAGE WEIGHT

CHILD, VERY HEALTHY CHILD.

BUT IT REALLY WASN'T UNTIL

THE FOURTH GRADE THAT ONE

DAY THE QUEEN BEE OF OUR

LITTLE POSSE STARTED TALKING

ABOUT WEALTH.

AND SHE SAID, YOU GUYS, I

WEIGH 59 POUNDS AND I'M

STILL FAT.

AND SHE WENT AROUND THE

CIRCLE AND ASKED, WHAT DOES

EVERYONE ELSE WEIGH?

I LIED AND SAID I DON'T KNOW

WHAT I WEIGH.

I WENT HOME THAT DAY AND

STARTED MEMORIZING THE

NUTRITION LABELS ON ALL OF

THE PACKAGED FOODS IN THE

PANTRY, AND RESOLVED TO EAT

THE LEAST AMOUNT OF FAT AS

POSSIBLE IN THE DAY.

I WANTED MORE CONTROL OVER

MY FOOD AND FOOD CHOICES,

ALL IN AN EFFORT TO ATTAIN

MY GOAL OF LOSING WEIGHT.

THIS KIND OF CONTINUED

THROUGHOUT THAT SUMMER,

THROUGHOUT THAT FALL, AND

THEN BY CHRISTMAS BREAK, MY

PARENTS REALLY NOTICED I

JUST DID NOT LOOK WELL.

MY PEDIATRICIAN REFERRED ME

TO A COUNSELLOR, AND I WAS

DIAGNOSED WITH ANOREXIA.

I DIDN'T KNOW WHAT ANOREXIA

WAS, AND I HAD NEVER HEARD

OF AN EATING DISORDER

BEFORE.

I FELT LIKE MY PARENTS AND

THE DOCTORS WERE TRYING TO

TAKE AWAY A GOAL I DIDN'T

FEEL WAS A BAD GOAL.

THIS IS MY THING; YOU CAN'T

CONTROL ME.

I WAS GETTING WORSE, AND

THAT SPRING WAS THE FIRST

TIME I WAS HOSPITALIZED.

I WAS LIVING EITHER IN AN

EXTREME WORLD OF TREATMENT

HOSPITALIZATIONS, WHERE I

WAS NOT BEING TOLD WHAT A

REAL RELATIONSHIP WITH FOOD

LOOKED LIKE OR A HEALTHY

RELATIONSHIP WITH MY BODY

LOOKED LIKE.

THROUGHOUT MIDDLE SCHOOL,

HIGH SCHOOL, AND COLLEGE, IT

WAS VERY MUCH A CYCLE.

I WOULD GO INTO TREATMENT BY

PRETTY MUCH FORCE, AND BE

THERE FROM ANYWHERE FROM A

MONTH TO MONTHS, AND THEN I

WOULD GET OUT AND MAYBE HOLD

ON TO A LITTLE BIT OF

RECOVERY, SO TO SPEAK, ONLY

TO RELAPSE WITHIN WEEKS OR

MONTHS.

AND IT WAS JUST A

ROLLERCOASTER OF UPS AND

DOWNS.

I CAN'T EVEN COUNT THE

NUMBER OF TIMES I WAS

HOSPITALIZED.

EXERCISE REALLY AGAIN TO

TAKE A LIFE OF ITS OWN

THROUGHOUT COLLEGE AND GRAD

SCHOOL, AND IT WAS WORKING

OUT UP TO SEVEN HOURS A

DAY.

AND IT WASN'T SO MUCH ABOUT

BEING THE FITTEST I COULD

EVER BE, IT WAS MORE AN

ADDICTION.

BY THE END OF MY FIRST YEAR

OF GRAD SCHOOL, I REALLY

PICKED UP THE PACE WITH MY

EXERCISE.

THE DAY BEFORE MY SECOND

YEAR WAS SUPPOSED TO START,

ACTUALLY, I REMEMBER

STEPPING ON THE SCALE THAT

MORNING AND SEEING THE

NUMBER 79.

AND I HAD NEVER SEEN THAT

SINCE MIDDLE SCHOOL.

THAT WAS THE FIRST TIME I

REALLY REMEMBER BEING

SCARED.

I DON'T REMEMBER PRAYING ON

THE WAY TO THE GYM THAT

MORNING.

I PRAYED, GOD, I PRAY YOU

WOULD HELP ME MAKE A CHANGE

TODAY.

I PULLED IN THE PARKING LOT

AND I WAS GETTING OUT, AND

EIGHT PEOPLE CAME AROUND ME

AND THEY SAID, LAUREN, WE'RE

WORRIED ABOUT YOU.

WE WANT TO TAKE YOU TO THE

HOSPITAL.

WE JUST WANT TO GET YOU

CHECKED OUT.

THAT VERY NIGHT I WAS PUT

IN THE HOSPITAL, MY HEART

RATE PLUMMETTED DOWN TO THE

30s.

HAD THEY GONE TO THE 20s,

THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT

HAVING TO PUT A PACEMAKER IN

ME OR HAVING TO DO HEART

SURGERY BECAUSE I WOULD HAVE

BEEN IN CARDIAC ARREST.

I DID NOT WANT TO DIE.

AND I DID NOT WANT TO HAVE A

HEART ATTACK AT 20 YEARS

OLD.

I FELT AT PEACE THAT GOD WAS

IN CONTROL AND I WAS NO

LONGER IN CONTROL, AND HE

WAS GOING TO SEE ME

THROUGH.

REALIZING WHERE MY HEALTH

WAS AND WHAT IT HAD COME TO,

AND THE FACT I REALLY WAS ON

DEATH'S DOORSTEP REALLY HIT

HOME WITH ME.

GOD WAS

ALREADY WORKING AND

CHANGING MY HEART.

HE REALLY WANTED TO WORK

THROUGH EVERY LITTLE ROUTE

THERE WAS.

THE COUNSELLOR I HAD DURING

TREATMENT WAS AMAZING.

SHE WAS THE FIRST COUNSELLOR

THAT I EVER WORKED WITH THAT

WAS A BELIEVER.

I REMEMBER TALKING WITH HER

ABOUT THE SPIRITUAL WARFARE,

AND I THINK THAT REALLY

BROUGHT THE WELLNESS, AND MY

HEART CHANGED AS WELL.

LEARNING TO SEE MY HEALTH

THROUGH GOD'S EYES, AND NOT

WHAT I THOUGHT I SAW IN THE

MIRROR.

MY LIFE RIGHT NOW IS IN A

FUN PLACE.

I USED TO, FOR SO LONG, FELT

IT WAS DREDGERY TO LIVE.

AND MY HEART WANTS TO WORK

WITH WELLNESS AND

PREVENTION, AND, OF COURSE,

RECOVERY.

MY EATING DISORDER FOR SO

LONG WAS THE BATTLE OF THE

MINDS.

I NEVER THOUGHT I COULD

ESCAPE FROM THE THOUGHTS IN

MY HEAD.

I WANT PEOPLE TO KNOW THAT

RECOVERY IS POSSIBILITY.

I WANT THEM TO BELIEVE IN

THAT AND TO NEVER LOSE

HOPE.

Wendy: NEVER LOSE

HOPE.

EVERYONE NEEDS HOPE.

IF YOU'RE STRUGGLING AND

NEED SOMEONE TO PRAY WITH

YOU, JUST CALL THE NUMBER ON

YOUR SCREEN RIGHT NOW,

1-800-759-0700.

IT IS TOLL-FREE.

OUR STAFF IS HERE 24/7 TO

TAKE YOUR CALLS, NO MATTER

WHAT PROBLEM YOU'RE DEALING

WITH.

MAYBE IT IS NOT ANOREXIA.

MAYBE IT IS SOMETHING ELSE.

BUT IF IT IS LIKE LAUREN'S,

WE HAVE A FREE BOOK WE WOULD

LIKE TO SEND TO YOU.

IT IS CALLED "OVERCOMING

EATING DISORDERS."

AND IT IS FILLED WITH

SCRIPTURES.

CALL THE NUMBER ON YOUR

SCREEN, 1-800-759-0700, AND

IT IS ABSOLUTELY FREE OF

CHARGE.

THERE IS ALWAYS HOPE IN

JESUS.

AND YOU, TOO, CAN BE AN

OVERCOMER.

PAT?

Pat: STILL AHEAD, WE'RE

GOING TO "BRING IT ON" WITH

YOUR E-MAIL QUESTIONS.

MARIA SAYS, "WE'RE IN SO

MUCH DEBT AND CANNOT MAKE

ENDS MEET.

IT IS CAUSING MARITAL

PROBLEMS, STRESS, AND

ANXIETY.

IS IT WRONG TO FILE FOR

BANKRUPTCY?"

Pat: I WILL TAKE ON

THAT QUESTION AND MANY MORE

THAT COME TO US VIA THE

E-MAIL, RIGHT AFTER THIS.

WELCOME BACK TO

WASHINGTON FOR THIS CBN NEWS

BREAK.

A TYPHOON HAS KILLED AT

LEAST 10 PEOPLE IN THE

PHILIPPINES, AND MANY MORE

WERE REPORTED MISSING, SO

THE DEATH TOLL COULD RISE.

MORE THAN 370,000 PEOPLE

EVACUATED INTO EMERGENCY

SHELTERS.

THE STORM SHUT DOWN THE

CAPITAL OF MANILA, AND POWER

WENT OUT IN SEVERAL PLACES.

MISSOURI GOVERNOR JAY NIXON

HAS VETOED A BILL THAT WOULD

HAVE ALLOWED TRAINED

TEACHERS TO CARRY CONCEALED

GUNS.

HE SAYS ARMING TEACHERS WILL

NOT MAKE SCHOOLS SAFER, BUT

SUPPORTERS ARGUE THAT

TRAINING AND ARMING SCHOOL

PERSONNEL COULD SAVE

STUDENTS' LIVES, AND SCHOOL

PROTECTION OFFICERS COULD

RESPOND TO AN ATTACKER

WITHOUT WAITING FOR POLICE

TO ARRIVE.

WELL, YOU CAN ALWAYS GET THE

LATEST FROM CBN NEWS BY

GOING TO OUR WEBSITE AT

CBNNEWS.COM.

PAT AND WENDY WILL BE BACK

WITH MORE OF "THE 700 CLUB"

RIGHT AFTER THIS.

Wendy: IT LOOKS LIKE A

FUN SHOW.

BE SURE TO TUNE IN TOMORROW

NIGHT FOR THE "AMERICAN

BIBLE CHALLENGE."

JEFF FOXWORTHY HAS A VERY

SPECIAL GUEST.

TAKE A LOOK.

[CHEERING]

HOW DO I LOOK IN THIS

THING?

I DON'T KNOW.

OH!

ALL RIGHT, IT RHYMES WITH

GRACE.

HERE IS YOUR QUESTION ABOUT

SNAKES.

[CHEERING]

Wendy: OH, WOW!

Pat: THAT'S ONE THING

WE DON'T HAVE, WE DON'T HAVE

PYTHONS ON THIS PROGRAM, NOR

DO WE EVER INTEND TO.

NO WAY.

Wendy: WELL, YOU CAN

FIND OUT WHAT THE SNAKE

QUESTION IS AND TEST YOUR

WITS WITH THE CONTESTANTS

FOR THE ANSWER.

TUNE INTO THE GAME SHOW

NETWORK, TOMORROW NIGHT,

8:00 EASTERN TIME, AND 7

CENTRAL.

AND FOR AN ALL NEW EPISODE

OF "THE AMERICAN BIBLE

CHALLENGE," AND THAT'S

TOMORROW NIGHT.

Pat: MY WIFE IS A FAN

OF JEOPARDY.

AND SHE WATCHES "JEOPARDY"

FAITHFULLY.

THEY HAVE THE FINAL JEOPARDY

WHERE THEY HAVE ONE

QUESTION.

Wendy: IT IS JUST

AMAZING.

AND SHE GETS IT?

Pat: NO.

I'VE BEEN GETTING IT.

[LAUGHTER]

Wendy: I WOULD NOT WANT

TO PLAY JEOPARDY WITH PAT

ROBERTSON, NO WAY.

Pat: OKAY.

LET'S GO TO THE QUESTIONS.

Wendy: MARIA

WRITES, "WE ARE IN SO MUCH

DEBT AND CANNOT MAKE ENDS

MEET, IT IS CAUSING MARITAL

PROBLEMS, STRESS AND

ANXIETY.

IS IT WRONG TO FILE FOR

BANKRUPTCY?

DO YOU HAVE ANY INFORMATION

ON THIS?"

Pat: WELL, BANKRUPTCY

WAS PUT IN TO RELIEVE DEBT.

IN THE OLD TESTAMENT, EVERY

SEVEN YEARS THEY HAD A

RELEASE OF DEBTS.

AND EVERY 49 THEY PROCLAIM

LIBERTY THROUGHOUT THE

LAND.

IT WAS A TREMENDOUS RELEASE

OF DEBT.

SO DEBT RELEASE IS CERTAINLY

BIBLICAL.

PEOPLE UNDER A CRUSHING

BURDEN OF DEBT WOULD BE SET

FREE AFTER A PERIOD OF

TIME.

SO WE HAVE BANKRUPTCY LAWS

TO HELP PEOPLE OUT.

AND I THINK THERE ARE PEOPLE

WHO USE THEM FRAUDULENTLY,

AND THERE HAVE BEEN SOME

LOOPHOLES CLOSED, BUT I SEE

NOTHING WRONG WITH DECLARING

BANKRUPTCY.

BUT THERE ARE SOME

RAMIFICATIONS, YOU CAN'T DO

IT AGAIN FOR SO MANY YEARS

AND YOU HAVE THAT MARK ON

YOUR CREDIT RATING AND SO

FORTH.

YOU PUT TOGETHER BOTH SIDES

OF IT.

BUT IF YOU'RE IN THE TROUBLE

YOU SAY YOU'RE IN, THERE IS

NO SIN GOING INTO

BANKRUPTCY.

Wendy: VIVIENNE

SAYS, "I HAVE BEEN SUFFERING

FROM ANXIETY SINCE I WAS

LITTLE.

NOW THAT I'M OLDER, I KNOW

WHAT IT IS.

CAN GOD REALLY HEAL MY

MIND?

I CAN'T EAT OR GET OUT OF MY

HOUSE?"

Pat: OF COURSE GOD CAN

CLEAR YOUR MIND.

BUT IT SOUNDS TO ME YOU'LL

NEED SOME SERIOUS THERAPY.

YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO HAVE

SOMEBODY WALK YOU THROUGH

IT.

BECAUSE YOU NOW HAVE A FEAR

OF GOING OUTDOORS AND

TALKING TO PEOPLE AND THAT

SORT OF THING.

YOU NEED TO HAVE SOMEBODY

HELP YOU ON THIS ONE.

OF COURSE GOD CAN SET YOU

FREE, BUT YOU HAVE TO TAKE

SOME BOLD STEPS YOURSELF.

I RECOMMEND YOU GET OUT AND

START WALKING AND EXERCISING

AND EATING RIGHT.

A GOOD CHRISTIAN THERAPIST

CAN HELP YOU ON THAT.

Wendy: AND START SAYING

THE SCRIPTURES OUTLOUD, THAT

GOD HAS NOT GIVEN ME A

SPIRIT OF FEAR, BUT A POWER

OF SOUND MIND.

JUSTINE WRITES, "I HAVE

TRIED TO CONVINCE A MUSLIM

ABOUT THE INSPIRED WORD OF

GOD.

HOWEVER, SHE JUST KEEPS

COMING BACK TO THE POINT

THAT MOHAMMED IS THE REAL

PROPHET, AND QURAN IS TRUE,

AND THE REAL PATH TO

SALVATION IS CLEAR.

HOW DO I CONVINCE HER THAT

IT IS CHRISTIANITY THAT

POSSESSES THE TRUTH AND NOT

ISLAM?"

Pat: IF YOU HAD A REAL

KNOWLEDGE OF THE QURAN AND

COULD SHOW THE DISCREPANCIES

IN THE QURAN -- THE PROBLEM

IS YOU'RE NOT KNOWLEDGEABLE

ENOUGH YET TO ARGUE.

THIS BOOK IS AVAILABLE, AND

IT'S CALLED "ISLAM, RELIGION

OF PEACE OR WAR."

IT TELLS WHO MOHAMMED WAS,

WHERE HE CAME FROM, AND WHAT

HE IS ABOUT.

AND WHAT THE QURAN SAYS OVER

AND OVER AGAIN, ESPECIALLY

ABOUT WAR AND KILLING.

IT IS HERE.

WE'LL MAKE IT AVAILABLE TO

YOU, "ISLAM, A RELIGION OF

WAR OR PEACE."

YOU NEED THAT, BUT YOU NEED

TO DO SOME STUDYING IF

YOU'RE GOING TO CONFRONT

SOMEBODY WHO IS DEDICATED TO

ANOTHER RELIGION.

Wendy: JAMES WRITES, "I

KNOWISKNOW ISHMAEL BORE 12

SONS.

WHY IS THERE SUCH AN INTENSE

HATRED FOR THE JEWISH STATE

FROM ALL OF THE ARAB

NATIONS?"

Pat: IT IS SATANIC.

THE BIBLE SAYS THAT ISHMAEL

WAS LIKE A WILD DON KEY.

DONKEY.

AND YOU HAVE THAT SENSE OF

ANGER AND CHAOS THAT HAVE

INFECTED HIS GENERATIONS.

JACOB, ON THE OTHER HAND,

WAS A MAN OF PEACE AND WHO

LOVED GOD AND WHO WAS

ANOINTED BY THE LORD, AND

WHO WRESTLED WITH AN ANGEL

AND WHO WAS BROKEN TO SERVE

GOD.

SO HIS FOREBEARERS ARE THAT

WAY.

BUT THE ANIMOSITY -- THE

ONLY WAY YOU CAN ACCOUNT FOR

IT IS SATANIC.

IT IS REALLY IRRATIONAL.

THE HATRED THAT THE ARABS

HAVE FOR THE JEWS, IT'S

IRRATIONAL.

Wendy: THAT'S THE BEST

WAY TO SAY IT.

JEANA WRITES, "DO ALL DREAMS

COME FROM GOD, OR CAN THE

DEVIL SEND DREAMS THAT

CONTRADICT WHAT I THINK IS

GOD'S WILL?"

Pat: I DON'T MEAN TO BE

GLIB, BUT YOU CAN EAT TOUCH

SPASPAGHETTI AND HAVE A BAD

DREAM.

AND YOU SAY IT COMES FROM

GOD, BUT IT COMES FROM YOUR

STOMACH.

AND YOU ALSO HAVE DREAMS

ABOUT WHAT YOU'VE BEEN

READING AND TALKING ABOUT,

WHAT UNFINISHED BUSINESS YOU

HAVE AND SO FORTH, AND NONE

OF THAT COMES FROM GOD.

IT COMES OUT OF YOUR

SUBCONSCIENCE.

GOD DOES SEND VISIONS AND

DREAMS.

BUT, I'LL TELL YOU WHAT, I

THINK YOU NEED TO HAVE

SOURCES OF DATA TO MAKE YOUR

DECISIONS OTHER THAN JUST

PURE DREAMS.

BUT PAUL HAD A DREAM, AND HE

SAID I ASSUREDLY FELT THAT

GOD HAD CALLED US.

AND SO HE WENT ACROSS INTO

EUROPE.

AND WE HAVE THE GOSPEL

BECAUSE OF A DREAM.

ONE LAST QUESTION.

Wendy: CHRIS

WRITES, "HI, PAT, MY GRANDPA

AND GRANDMA WERE BOTH

BORN-AGAIN CHRISTIANS, BUT

MY GRANDPA WAS A MASON AND

MY GRANDMA WAS AN EASTERN

STAR.

CAN A CHRISTIAN BE A MEMBER

OF THESE ORGANIZATIONS AND

STILL HAVE THE RIGHT

RELATIONSHIP WITH GOD?"

Pat: I DON'T REALLY

THINK THAT YOU CAN GO INTO

THE HIGHER LEVELS, 32nd,

33 DEGREES OF MASONIC ORDER

AND STILL HOLD ON TO THE

FAITH.

THERE WAS AN AUTHOR WHO

WROTE ABOUT MESSIANIC

THINGS.

AND HE WAS SAYING THAT THE

BIBLE HAS IT WRONG.

THAT SATAN WAS THE ANGEL OF

LIGHT.

AND JEHOVAH WAS THE DEVIL.

AND SO YOU HAVE TO STOP.

THERE ARE THINGS IN THAT

MESSIANIC DOCTRINE THAT ARE

JUST NOT CHRISTIAN.

I DON'T KNOW ABOUT WHAT YOUR

GRANDMA AND GRANDPA

BELIEVED, BUT, NEVERTHELESS,

I FIND IT REALLY HARD TO

ACCEPT THE FACT THAT

SOMEBODY CAN GO THROUGH

THOSE STAGES OF THE

MESSIANIC BELIEF AND EXCEPT

THE THINGS THAT ARE BEING

PRESENTED AND STILL SAY THAT

YOU BELIEVE IN THE BIBLE AND

BELIEVE IN JESUS.

BUT I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU'RE

ANCESTORS BELIEVED, SO I

CAN'T COMMENT ON IT.

WENDY?

Wendy: INTERESTING.

THANKS, PAT.

GREAT ANSWERS, AS USUAL.

WELL, UP NEXT, MEET A

HUSBAND AND FATHER WHO HAD

TO CHOOSE BETWEEN DRUGS AND

HIS OWN FAMILY.

I WOULD HAVE DIED FOR

THEM.

I JUST COULDN'T QUIT DOING

DRUGS FOR THEM.

I WAS IN THE GRIPS OF AN

ADDICTION THAT WAS JUST

MASSIVE.

Wendy: SEE HOW HE WAS

FINALLY SET FREE FROM INSIDE

A PRISON CELL.

Pat: JIM LOVED THIS

WIFE AND CHILDREN, AND HE

SAID HE WOULD EVEN DIE FOR

THEM, BUT HE WOULDN'T QUIT

DOING DRUGS FOR THEM.

SO JIM LOST HIS FAMILY, AND

FOR THE NEXT 25 YEARS HE

REMAINED A SLAVE TO DRUGS.

I USED TO HIDE MY

MOTHER'S CAR -- I WOULD HIDE

IN THE BACK SEAT AND LAY ON

THE FLOOR BOARD.

I THINK I WAS 5 OR 6 YEARS

OLD.

Reporter: SNEAKING A

RIDE INTO WORK WITH HIS MOM

WAS THE ONLY WAY JIM COULD

GET HIS MOM'S ATTENTION.

HE OFTEN STOLE MOMENTS LIKE

THESE BECAUSE SHE AND HIS

FATHER WERE TOO BUSY CHASING

CAREERS.

MY FATHER WAS AN IBM

EXECUTIVE, AND MY MOTHER

COMES FROM A FAMILY OF

ENTREPRENEURS, AND MY MOM

AND DAD WERE GONE MOST OF

THE TIME.

Reporter: JIM AND HIS

TWIN BROTHER WERE THE

YOUNGEST OF FIVE.

ONE DAY HE GOT INTO HIS

OLDER BROTHER'S STASH, WHICH

HAD POT AND L.S.D.

THE FIRST TIME THE

EUPHORIA HIT ME, MY FIRST

THOUGHT WAS, I'M GOING TO DO

THIS THE REST OF MY LIFE.

THIS IS THE GREATEST FEELING

I'VE EVER HAD, AT SEVEN.

Reporter: BY MIDDLE

SCHOOL, HE HAD BECOME A

HARD-CORE POTHEAD.

HIS PARENTS HAD ALSO

DIVORCED.

WHEN HE BECAME TOO MUCH TO

HANDLE FOR HIS MOM, SHE SENT

HIM TO LIVE WITH HIS

FATHER.

UNDER HIS TOUGH SUPERVISION

AND A LITTLE TOUGH LOVE, JIM

CLEANED UP HIS ACT.

MY FATHER WAS THERE, AND

HE REALLY WAS A GOOD FATHER

AND HE WANTED TO BE PART OF

OUR LIFE.

Reporter: JIM MADE IT

TO HIGH SCHOOL DRUG-FREE AND

FOCUSED ON SPORTS AND

ACADEMICS.

ONE NIGHT HIS FATHER SAT

DOWN WITH JILL AN JIM AND

HIS TWIN BROTHER.

I REMEMBER HIM TELLING

US, YOUR MOTHER HAS LUNG

CANCER AND SHE HAS SIX

MONTHS TO LIVE.

Reporter: SOON JIM LOST

HIS MOTIVATION TO STAY ON

THE STRAIGHT AND NARROW AND

TURNED BACK TO DRUGS.

HE ADDED COCAINE TO IT, AND

WITH IT A STRING OF FELONIES

TO SUPPORT WHAT HAD BECOME A

VERY EXPENSIVE DRUG HABIT.

THEN AT THE START OF JIM'S

SENIOR YEAR, HIS MOTHER

PASSED AWAY.

I WAS SO MAD AT HER.

I THOUGHT THAT SHE GAVE UP

AND THAT SHE COULD BEAT

CANCER, AND THAT IF I HAD

CANCER, I WOULD DEFINITELY

BEAT IT FOR HER OR ANYONE

ELSE THAT I LOVED.

Reporter: JIM MANAGED

TO GRADUATE BUT FAILED EVERY

ATTEMPT HIS FAMILY MADE TO

GET HIM REHABILITATED.

I JUST THOUGHT IT WAS

JUST GARBAGE.

I WOULD RATHER BE DEAD AT

THAT TIME THAN HAVE TO LIVE

WITHOUT BEING THAT HIGH ALL

OF THE TIME.

Reporter: A YEAR AFTER

GRADUATING, JIM MARRIED HIS

HIGH SCHOOL SWEETHEART.

THE COUPLE HAD TWINS, A BOY

AND A GIRL.

BUT THE MARRIAGE DIDN'T

LAST.

I WAS IN THE GRIPS OF AN

ADDICTION THAT WAS JUST

MASSIVE.

AND AS MUCH AS I WANTED TO

STOP FOR THEM, I COULD NOT

STOP.

AND EVEN THEN I WOULD HAVE

DIED FOR THEM.

I JUST COULDN'T QUIT DOING

DRUGS FOR THEM.

Reporter: FOR THE NEXT

25 YEARS, HE WAS EITHER

SERVING TIME E IN A REHAB

PROGRAM OR RUNNING FROM THE

LAW.

THEN IN 2004, HE WAS

ARRESTED FOR CREDIT CARD

FRAUD AND A LONG LIST OF

OTHER FELONIES.

AT 41 YEARS OLD, HE WAS

TIRED, FACING HIS THIRD

STRIKE, AND LOOKING AT 49 TO

LIFE.

IT WAS THE FIRST TIME IN

MY LIFE THAT I JUST DIDN'T

WANT TO LIVE ANYMORE.

I SAID, GOD, IF YOU'RE REAL,

IF YOU'RE REAL LIKE THEY SAY

YOU'RE REAL, HELP ME.

AND INSTANTLY I HAD AN

ENCOUNTER ON THAT FLOOR IN

THE CELL.

MY HEART AND MY MIND

RECEIVED HOPE.

GOD GAVE ME SUCH PEACE,

HOPE, AND UNDERSTANDING I

KNEW EVERYTHING HAD

CHANGED.

Reporter: INSTEAD

DRUGS, JIM CRAZED GOD'S

WORD.

HE ASKED HIS JAILERS FOR A

BIBLE.

I STARTED PRAYING AND I

STARTED READING THE BIBLE.

AND IT STARTED TO MAKE

SENSE, AND I UNDERSTOOD THE

WORDS.

AND THEY WOULD LEAP OUT AND

THEY CAME ALIVE.

AND THEY STARTED TO MAKE

SENSE TO ME.

GOD CHALLENGED ME.

HE SAID, WILL YOU SERVE ME

IF YOU HAVE TO GO AND DO

LIFE IN PRISON?

AND I DIDN'T THINK IT WAS

FAIR THAT GOD WOULD POSE

THAT QUESTION TO ME.

AND SO I DIDN'T ANSWER IT.

I WAS MAD FOR A COUPLE OF

WEEKS.

AND THEN FINALLY I SAID,

GOD, LISTEN, IF I NEVER HAVE

TO FEEL LIKE I FELT ON THE

FLOOR THAT DAY, IF YOU

NEVER, EVER LET ME FEEL LIKE

THAT AGAIN, I'LL SERVE YOU

ANYWHERE.

Reporter: A YEAR INTO

SERVING HIS TIME, JIM

RECEIVED WORD THAT HIS

SENTENCE WAS GOING TO BE

REDUCED FROM 49 YEARS TO 49

MONTHS.

FAITH'S ATTORNEY STANDS

UP, AND SHE SAYS, I DON'T

KNOW WHY I'M DOING THIS AND

HE'LL NEVER FINISH IT, BUT

I'M GOING TO SEND HIM TO

THIS PROGRAM, THIS

FAITH-BASED DRUG AND ALCOHOL

PROGRAM IN SARASOTA.

I'M GOING TO SEND HIM TO THE

HARVEST HOUSE.

Reporter: JIM DID

FINISH THE PROGRAM AND

OVERCAME HIS ADDICTIONS.

TODAY HE IS BACK AT HARVEST

HOUSE AT THE PROGRAM

DIRECTOR.

HE IS ALSO WORKING TO

RECONCILE WITH HIS NOW ADULT

TWINS.

HE IS REMARRIED AND RAISING

THEIR TWO SMALL CHILDREN.

CHRIST HAS GIVEN ME A

PEACE AND A JOY THAT I'VE

NEVER EXPERIENCED.

AND I DON'T THINK IT IS

POSSIBLE TO EXPERIENCE IT

WITHOUT THAT LIFE IN

CHRIST.

Pat: ISN'T THAT

AMAZING?

IT'S REMARKABLE.

I'VE SAID THIS BEFORE.

HE WAS A SLAVE.

WHAT WAS HE A SLAVE TO?

HE WAS A SLAVE TO PLANTS.

CAN YOU IMAGINE BEING A

SLAVE TO PLANTS?

I WAS READING IN THE

MARVELOUS 51st PSALM --

EXCUSE ME, 91st PSALM --

ABOUT GOD, THE LORD.

HE IS MY REFUGE.

HE IS MY HOPE.

I PUT MY HOPE AND CONFIDENCE

IN HIM.

CAN YOU IMAGINE PUTTING IT

IN A PLANT?

THAT YOU PUT YOUR DESTINY IN

A PLANT?

A WEED?

THEY CALL IT WEED.

THEY CALL IT GRASS.

YOU'RE GOING TO PUT YOUR

DESTINY IN THE FRUIT OF A

COCOA BUSH?

THAT'S WHAT PEOPLE ARE

DOING.

THAT'S WHERE THIS STUFF

COMES FROM.

ARE YOU GOING TO GIVE THAT

LORDSHIP OVER YOUR LIFE WHEN

YOU COULD HAVE GOD AS LORD,

AS JESUS CHRIST IS LORD?

WHO DO YOU WANT TO SERVE?

THERE WAS ONE OF THE SINGERS

THAT SANG A SONG, YOU'VE GOT

TO SERVE SOMEBODY.

YOU REALLY DO.

IF YOU WANT TO SERVE THE ONE

WHO IS LORD, WHO IS THE

CREATOR, WHO IS THE AUTHOR

OF LIFE, WHO CAN GIVE YOU

HOPE AND JOY AND PEACE, OR

DO YOU WANT TO SERVE A

PLANT?

MAKE UP YOUR MIND.

WHICH WOULD IT BE, WOULD YOU

RATHER SERVE GRASS OR SERVE

THE CREATOR?

IF YOU WANT THE CREATOR,

PRAY WITH ME RIGHT NOW THESE

WORDS: LORD, I COME TO YOU

NOW.

I GIVE YOU MY HEART.

I GIVE YOU MY LIFE.

AND I ASK YOU WOULD COME.

I WANT TO MAKE YOU THE ROCK

OF MY SALVATION.

I SURRENDER TO YOU.

AND FROM THIS MOMENT ON I

TRUST IN YOU AND MAKE YOU

THE LORD OF MY LIFE.

THANK YOU, IN JESUS' NAME.

AMEN.

AND AMEN.

IF YOU PRAYED WITH ME, I

WANT TO GIVE YOU SOMETHING

TO HELP YOU.

IT'S CALLED "A NEW DAY."

I'LL SEND THIS TO YOU FREE.

JUST PICK UP THE PHONE AND

CALL IN.

IT WILL TELL YOU WHAT TO DO

NEXT.

I KNOW IT WILL BE A BLESSING

TO YOU.

WELL, THAT'S ALL OF THE TIME

WE'VE GOT.

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR BEING

WITH US TODAY.

FOR WENDY AND ME AND ALL OF

OUR CREW, THIS IS PAT

ROBERTSON.

AND WE LEAVE YOU WITH

TODAY'S POWER MINUTE FROM

JAMES 1: "BLESSED IS THE MAN

WHO PERSEVERES UNDER TRIAL

BECAUSE WHEN HE HAS STOOD

THE TEST, HE WILL RECEIVE

THE CROWN OF LIFE THAT GOD

HAS PROMISED TO THOSE WHO

LOVE HIM."

GOD BLESS YOU.

HAVE A WONDERFUL TIME.

AND TOMORROW, BY THE WAY,

TWO SUPERNATURAL RESCUES

FROM ONE HORRIFIC CAR CRASH,

ON TOMORROW'S "700 CLUB."

BYE-BYE.

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