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THE BRAIN SURGEON WHO IS
NOW TRYING TO SAVE THE SOUL
OF A COUNTRY.
DR. BEN CARSON JOINS US LIVE
AND SHARES HIS REMEDY FOR A
NATION DIVIDED, ON TODAY'S
"700 CLUB."
Pat: WELL, WELCOME TO
"THE 700 CLUB."
YOU KNOW, I WAS THINKING
TODAY, IF I WAS IN CHARGE OF
THE VETERANS ADMINISTRATION,
LIKE JEN SHINSEKI, WHAT
WOULD YOU DO?
THE FIRST THING YOU WOULD DO
IS TO FIRE ABOUT 10 PEOPLE
RIGHT OFF THE BAT AND
REPLACE THEM WITH PEOPLE
FROM THE BUSINESS INTERESTS,
THOSE WHO ARE MANAGEMENT
CONSULTANTS WHO COULD COME
IN AND DO A TOP TO BOTTOM
CLEANING.
THAT THING IS REALLY BAD,
AND IT IS NOT GOING TO GO
AWAY JUST BY FIRING THE TOP
MAN.
THAT IS WHAT EVERYBODY IS
TALKING ABOUT, FIRE GENERAL
SHINSEKI.
THE POOR GUY CAME INTO A
MESS, AND HE CONTINUED WITH
A MESS, BUT WE NEED TO TAKE
CARE OF IT.
AND THAT SCANDAL KEEPS
GETTING WORSE, WITH MORE AND
MORE HOSPITALS UNDER
INVESTIGATION.
Terry: NOW CONGRESS IS
GRILLING THE LEADERS OF THE
V.A. AND BOTH REPUBLICANS
AND DEMOCRATS ARE CALLING
FOR THE RESIGNATION OF THE
MAN WHO HEADS THE
DEPARTMENT.
CHARLENE AARON HAS THE
STORY.
Reporter: A NEW INTERIM
REPORT BY THE VETERANS
AFFAIRS' INTERNAL WATCHDOG
CONCLUDES THAT PATIENTS
EXPERIENCED SIGNIFICANT
DELAYS IN TREATMENT AT A
V.A. HEALTH FACILITY IN
PHOENIX, ARIZONA.
THAT INCLUDES SOME 1700
VETERANS, WHO WERE WAITING
FOR MEDICAL CARE, BUT WHO
WERE NOT ON AN OFFICIAL
WAITING LIST.
THE BLISTERS REPORT SAYS
VETERANS WAITED ON AVERAGE
115 DAYS FOR THEIR FIRST
MEDICAL APPOINTMENT.
THAT IS 91 DAYS LONGER THAN
THE HOSPITAL HAD REPORTED.
FIREWORKS ERUPTED ON CAPITOL
HILL LAST NIGHT AS THREE
SENIOR V.A. OFFICIALS STOOD
BEFORE A CONGRESSIONAL
HEARING ON THE CONTROVERSY.
WHEN WERE THESE DOCUMENTS
DESTROYED?
WHAT I DON'T UNDERSTAND
IS HOW YOU CAN LOOK AT
YOURSELF IN THE MIRROR AND
SHAVE IN THE MORNING AND NOT
THROW UP.
Reporter: THE V.A.'S
INSPECTOR GENERAL IS
INVESTIGATING 26 FACILITIES
NATIONWIDE.
THE REVIEW FOLLOWS
ALLEGATIONS THAT SEVERAL
VETERANS DIED WHILE AWAITING
TREATMENT, AND THE SECRET
WAITING LISTS WERE CREATED
TO HIDE DELAYS IN CARE.
JOHN GOODMAN, AND A VETERAN
OF THE IRAQ WAR, HAD TROUBLE
GETTING MEDICAL ATTENTION AT
A V.A. HOSPITAL IN
OKLAHOMA.
I HAD A BROKEN HAND AND
HAD TO GET X-RAYS ON IT.
AND IT TOOK OVER A WEEK TO
GET IN.
AND BY THE TIME I GOT
X-RAYS, THE BONE HAD ALREADY
STARTED HEALING.
Reporter: HE SAYS LONG
WAIT TIMES WERE JUST ONE OF
THE COMPLAINTS COMMON AMONG
VETERANS SEEKING CARE.
IT TAKES A MONTH, OR EVEN
LONGER, TO EVEN GET AN
APPOINTMENT.
AND THEN WHEN YOU GET THERE,
YOUR APPOINTMENT IS PUSHED
BACK TWO HOURS, OR YOU HAVE
TO GO TO MESKOGI, OR YOUR
APPOINTMENT GETS CANCELLED
WITHOUT NOT NOTIFICATION.
Reporter: SOME VETS
NEVER GOT THE HELP THEY
NEEDED.
THEY ARE AT FAULT, WHY MY
FATHER IS DEAD.
Reporter: FLORIDA'S
GOVERNOR PLANS TO SUE THE
ADMINISTRATION FOR THE RIGHT
TO INSPECT V.A. HOSPITALS IN
THE STATE.
AND THERE IS NOW GROWING
PRESSURE THAT PRESIDENT
OBAMA RESPOND.
MANY WANT HIM TO FIRE THE
MAN IN CHARGE OF THE V.A.,
SECRETARY SHINSEKI.
BOTH DEMOCRATS AND
REPUBLICANS HAVE CALLED FOR
HIM TO RESIGN, WITH SOME
DEMANDING A CRIMINAL
INVESTIGATION.
I BELIEVE THAT THIS ISSUE
HAS REACHED A LEVEL THAT
REQUIRES THE JUSTICE
DEPARTMENT INVOLVEMENT.
Reporter: CHARLENE
AARON, CBN NEWS.
Pat: WELL, WHAT IT
SHOWS, FOLKS, REAL SIMPLE,
IS THE GOVERNMENT CAN'T RUN
HEALTH CARE.
SO BIG SURPRISE.
SO INSTEAD OF TAKING THE
VETERANS ADMINISTRATION AND
FIXING THAT, THEY DECIDED
THEY'RE GOING TO SCREW UP
EVERYBODY ELSE'S HEALTH
CARE, AND SO THIS MASSIVE
TAKEOVER OF ONE SIXTH OF THE
ECONOMY.
GOVERNMENT DOESN'T FUNCTION
THAT WAY.
IT JUST DOESN'T.
IT CAN GET TROOPS OUT TO
BATTLES, WHICH IS GOOD.
IT CAN KEEP POLICE ON THE
STREETS.
IT CAN DO A NUMBER OF
IMPORTANT THINGS.
BUT IT CAN'T RUN HEALTH
CARE.
AND WHAT WE NEED RIGHT NOW
ARE PRIVATE SECTOR GURUS,
PEOPLE WHO ARE REALLY
SPECIALISTS IN CORPORATE
TURNAROUNDS AND FIX-UPS, TO
COME IN THERE AND DO THIS.
THEY HAVE A LOT OF RULES
THAT SAY YOU CAN'T FIRE
PEOPLE, BUT THEY'VE GOT TO
FIRE PEOPLE.
THEY'VE GOT TO FIRE NOT JUST
THAT POOR GENERAL WHO IS AT
THE HEAD OF IT.
HE IS SUFFERING, AND HE IS A
GOOD MAN, AND THEY'RE
PUTTING ALL OF THE BLAME ON
HIM.
WHAT IS GOING TO HAPPEN IF
HE GETS FIRED?
IT WILL STILL BE AS BAD AS
IT IS.
THEY HAVE TO GET RID OF THE
WHOLE CULTURE, AND THAT IS
NOT GOING TO BE EASY.
IN OTHER NEWS, DESPITE ALL
OF THE PRESSURE FROM THE
WORLD TO SPLIT JERUSALEM
WITH THE PALESTINIAN IN THE
NAME OF, QUOTE,"PEACE," THE
PRIME MINISTER OF ISRAEL IS
PROMISING JERUSALEM WILL
NEVER BE DIVIDED.
HE TOLD ME THAT SOME YEARS
AGO, AND HE SAID IT AGAIN.
JOHN JESSUP HAS MORE ON THAT
STORY FROM WASHINGTON.
Reporter: PAT, ISRAELIS
HAVE JUST WRAPPED UP
CELEBRATING JERUSALEM DAY.
IT MARKS THE CAPTURE OF THE
OLD CITY DURING THE 1967
6-DAY WAR.
FOR MANY JEWS AND
CHRISTIANS, IT IS A SPECIAL
DAY IN HISTORY.
Reporter: ON
JUNE 7th, 1967, ISRAELI
PARATROOPERS ENTERED THE
LION'S GATE AND HEADED
TOWARDS THE TEMPLE MOUNT.
IT WAS THE FIRST TIME IN
NEARLY 2,000 YEARS THE
JEWISH PEOPLE CONTROLLED THE
OLD CITY AND THE WESTERN
WALL.
JERUSALEM WAS REUNITED UNDER
ISRAELI SOVEREIGNTY.
MANY JEWS AND CHRISTIANS
CALL THAT BATTLE A MIRACLE
AND AN HISTORIC TURNING
POINT.
THAT'S WHY EVERY YEAR
ISRAELIS CELEBRATE JERUSALEM
DAY.
JERUSALEM DAY IS MARKED BY
THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE COMING
OUT TO THE STREETS, WAVING
FLAGS, DANCING, SINGING.
IT IS JUST ONE OUTWARD SIGN
OF HOW IMPORTANT JERUSALEM
IS TO THE JEWISH PEOPLE.
IT IS THE HEART OF US,
AND THE HEART OF THE WORLD.
JERUSALEM IS OUR PLEDGE
TO CONNECT TO GOD.
IT IS IMPORTANT BECAUSE
THIS IS OUR HISTORY.
THIS IS OUR CAPITAL.
AND THIS IS WHAT THE WORLD
THINKS OF US.
Reporter: ISRAELI PRIME
MINISTER BENJAMIN NETANYAHU
DECLARED ISRAEL WILL
CONTINUE TO BUILD EVERYWHERE
IN JERUSALEM.
JERUSALEM WAS UNIFIED 47
YEARS AGO, AND IT WILL NEVER
BE REDIVIDED.
SINCE THAT DAY, JERUSALEM
HAS DEVELOPED.
IT IS PROSPEROUS AND
FLOURISHING, AND WE MEET
HERE EVERY YEAR IN ORDER TO
ENSURE THIS PROSPERITY WILL
BE EVEN GREATER, THAT THE
CONSTRUCTION WILL BE EVEN
BROADER, AND THAT IT WILL
FLOURISH EVEN MORE.
Reporter: BUT
PALESTINIANS SAY THEY WANT
JERUSALEM TO BE THE CAPITAL
OF A FUTURE PALESTINIAN
STATE.
SENIOR PALESTINIAN AUTHORITY
TOLD CBN NEWS, THERE CAN BE
NO PEACE AGREEMENT WITHOUT
JERUSALEM.
IT IS THE SECOND HOLY
PLACE FOR THE MUSLIMS IN THE
WORLD.
FOR THE PALESTINIANS, IN
ADDITION TO THAT, THERE WILL
BE NO PALESTINIAN STATE
WITHOUT JERUSALEM.
Reporter: POLICE SHUT
DOWN THE TEMPLE MOUNT ON
JERUSALEM DAY AFTER MUSLIMS
HARASSED JEWISH GROUPS, SOME
WANTING TO PRAY ON THE
TEMPLE MOUNT.
THMANY BELIEVE BECAUSE OF
THIS TENSION, THE TEMPLE
MOUNT COULD BECOME MORE AND
MORE OF A FLASHPOINT IN THE
FUTURE.
IN THE MEANTIME, ISRAELIS
CELEBRATE THE REUNIFICATION
OF THE CITY.
CHRIS MITCHELL, CBN NEWS,
JERUSALEM.
Reporter: PAT, PSALM
122: 3: "THE CITY BUILT IN
UNITY WHO'S WALLS CANNOT BE
BREACHED."
Pat: IT HAS BEEN
BREACHED MANY TIMES, BUT THE
BIBLE MAKES IT VERY CLEAR
THAT JERUSALEM WILL BE FOR
THE GENTILES UNTIL THE TIME
OF THE GENTILES ARE
FULFILLED.
THAT LITERALLY CAME TO PASS
IN THE 6-DAY WAR WHEN THE
ISRAELI TROOPS -- I GUESS
MOSHI DION WAS THE HEAD
LEADER OF THAT AND YITZHAK
RABIN WAS THE GENERAL THAT
WENT IN FOR IT.
AND OUT OF THAT, THAT CITY,
SINCE THE DAYS OF
NEBUCHADNEZZAR, WAS UNITED
UNDER JEWISH RULE.
THAT WAS A MAJOR, MAJOR
PROPHETIC STATE, AND I WANT
TO TELL YOU THAT GOD WILL
NOT ALLOW THAT PARTICULAR
BIT OF SCRIPTURE TO BE
ANNILHILATED.
THE PALESTINIANS HAVE NO
CLAIM OVER JERUSALEM.
THEY'VE NEVER BEEN IN
JERUSALEM.
JERUSALEM -- THE TEMPLE
MOUNT WAS BOUGHT BY DAVID
FOR, WHAT WAS IT, 600
SHEKELS OR PIECES OF GOLD OR
WHATEVER.
WE'RE TALKING ABOUT 1,000
B.C.
AND THIS HAS NEVER BEEN A
PALESTINIAN CITY.
I REMEMBER SPEAKING TO
YASSER ARAFAT SOME TIME AGO,
AND HE SAID, WELL, WE'LL SEE
ABOUT JERUSALEM.
GOOD MEN CAN PREVAIL AND SO
FORTH.
THAT LAST GUY YOU SAW ON THE
SHOW WAS SAYING, WE'VE GOT
TO HAVE IT OR ELSE.
THAT WASN'T THEIR CLAIM WHEN
I MET OVER THERE WITH THEIR
LEADERSHIP.
BUT THEY CHANGED THE GOLD
POSTS ON THESE THINGS, AND
THIS ONE HAS BEEN CHANGED
DRAMATICALLY.
BUT WHEN I TALKED TO
NETANYAHU BEFORE HE BECAME
PRIME MINISTER, HE SAID
JERUSALEM IS
NON-NEGOTIABLE.
WE'RE JUST NOT GOING TO
DIVIDE THE CITY.
I THINK THAT WILL BE THE
FINAL FLASHPOINT FOR THE
NATIONS OF THE WORLD.
THEY WILL COME TO FORCE THE
JEWS TO GIVE UP JERUSALEM,
AND THE JEWS WON'T DO IT.
IN HISTORY AND PROPHECY,
THAT IS THE KEY.
THEY'RE NOT GOING TO DO IT,
AND THE NATIONS OF THE EARTH
ARE GOING TO GATHER AGAINST
THE JEWS, AND GOD HIMSELF IS
GOING TO DEFEND THEM.
LOOK WHAT THE BIBLE SAYS.
IT IS RIGHT THERE IN BLACK
AND WHITE.
Reporter: PAT, HERE AT
HOME, HOUSTON CITY LEADERS
HAVE APPROVED A
CONTROVERSIAL GAY RIGHTS
ORDINANCE.
THE 11-6 VOTE CAME LATE
WEDNESDAY AFTER 12 HOURS OF
DEBATE AND MONTHS OF PROTEST
FROM AREA CHURCHES AND
CHRISTIAN BUSINESS OWNERS.
THEY SAY THE LAW COULD
PENALIZE BUSINESSES WITH
CHRISTIAN PRINCIPLES, AND
INFRINGE ON THE
CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHT TO
SPEAK OUT AGAINST
HOMOSEXUALITY.
THE HUES SHOES MAYOR, WHO
HOUSTON MAYOR CALLED ITS
PASSAGE THE MOST PERSONALLY
MEANINGFUL THING SHE WILL
DID AS MAYOR.
CHURCH LEADERS SAY THEY WILL
GATHER ENOUGH SIGNATURES FOR
REFERENDUM TO APPEAL IT IN
THE FALL.
THE MILITARY IS WORKING ON
COMPUTER CHIPS FOR THE BRAIN
TO TREAT POST-TRAUMATIC
STRESS ORDER.
ONE REPORTS MILITARY
RESEARCHERS WANT TO REACH
DEEP INTO THE BRAIN TO
PREDICT AND POSSIBLY TREAT
ANXIETY, DEPRESSION, MEMORY
LOSS, AND PTSD.
THE MILITARY IS HOPING TO
HAVE A PROTOTYPE IN FIVE
YEARS AND GET F.D.A.
APPROVAL.
THE PLAN IS AN EXAMPLE OF
THE TYPES OF IMPLANTS THAT
COULD BE DEVELOPED IN THE
DECADES AHEAD.
IT IS NOT JUST THE UNITED
STATES, BUT THE WHOLE WORLD
IS GETTING FATTER.
ALMOST A THIRD OF THE WORLD
IS NOW FAT.
A STUDY OF 188 COUNTRIES
FOUND THAT MORE THAN TWO
BILLION PEOPLE ARE NOW
OVERWEIGHT OR OBESE.
ACCORDING TO THE STUDY IN
THE AMERICAN JOURNAL LANCET,
THE HIGHEST RATES ARE IN THE
MIDDLE EAST AND AFRICA.
AND THE PROBLEM IS ONLY
GETTING WORSE BECAUSE NO
COUNTRY HAS BEEN ABLE TO
STOP THE GROWING OBESITY
RATES IN THE LAST THREE
DECADES.
RESEARCHERS NOTED A STRONG
LINK BETWEEN INCOME AND
OBESITY.
AS PEOPLE MAKE MORE MONEY,
THEIR WAIST LINES TEND TO
GET BIGGER.
AND THEY SAW A STRONG LINK
IN THE RISE OF WEIGHT AND A
SPIKE IN DIABETES AND
CANCERS LINKED TO BEING
OVERWEIGHT.
THAT IS A 63% INCREASE IN
THE LAST FIVE YEARS.
Pat: THAT IS THE
BLESSING THE UNITED STATES
HAS BESTOWED ON THE ENTIRE
WORLD.
THE BIGGEST McDONALD'S IN
THE EAST IS BEIJING.
YOU LOOK AT THE CHINESE
MENU, THEY HAD SOME CHICKEN
EVERY SO OFTEN AND A LITTLE
BIT OF PORK, AND THEY ATE A
LOT OF VEGETABLES, AND THEY
WERE FAIRLY LEAN, AND LOOK
AT THEM NOW.
AND WE EXPORTED HIGH
FRUCTOSE CORN SYRUP SOFT
DRINKS, AND THAT'S THE
SOURCE OF ALL THIS FAT.
IT HAS COME OUT OF FAST
FOODS.
THE AMERICAN FAST FOOD
DIET.
Terry: ARE YOU
SURPRISED THAT THE HIGHEST
RATES ARE IN THE MIDDLE EAST
AND NORTHERN AFRICA?
Pat: WELL, THEY LIKE TO
GORGE THEMSELVES.
THAT IS SURPRISING.
Terry: THOSE WOULD BE
TWO AREAS I WOULDN'T HAVE
THOUGHT.
Pat: I GUESS THE MEN
LIKE TO SEE THE WOMEN
WORKING IN THE MIDDLE EAST.
AND THEY SIT AROUND AND SWAP
STORIES.
AND MAYBE THEIR STOMACHS GET
BIGGER --
Terry: ALL OF THAT
OLIVE OIL I THOUGHT WAS
SUPPOSED TO BE GOOD FOR
YOU.
Pat: OLIVE OIL IS GOOD
FOR YOU.
IF THEY'RE EATING THE
MEDITERRANEAN DIET, IT
WOULDN'T HURT THEM, BUT
THEY'RE NOT EATING THE
MEDITERRANEAN DIET.
Terry: APPARENTLY NOT.
Pat: THE BIG MACS ARE
GOOD, BUT THEY MAKE YOU
FAT.
Terry: SPOKEN BY
SOMEONE WHO HASN'T HAD ONE
IN MANY YEARS.
COMING UP, A LOVE STORY FROM
HALF WAY AROUND THE WORLD.
A WAR-TORN COUPLE REUNITES
AFTER A DECADE APART.
THAT'S NEXT.
Pat: YOU'RE WATCHING
"THE 700 CLUB."
WE'RE DELIGHTED TO HAVE ALL
OF YOU WITH US.
FOR THE LAST 20 YEARS, REBEL
GROUPS HAVE BEEN FIGHTING
FOR POWER IN THE CENTRAL
AFRICAN NATION THAT USED TO
BE CALLED ZAIRE, AND NOW IT
IS THE REPUBLIC OF CONGO.
THE BATTLES HAVE CLAIMED
MORE THAN FIVE MILLION
LIVES.
IT HAS BEEN BLOODY AND
HORRIBLE.
AND ON TOP OF THAT, THERE
ARE AT LEAST MILLIONS MORE
WHO ARE HOMELESS.
JOHN JESSUP TALKED TO ONE
REFUGEE FROM THE CONGO,
WHO'S LIFE WAS RIPPED TO
SHREDS BEFORE IT WAS
STITCHED BACK TOGETHER RIGHT
HERE IN AMERICA.
Reporter: AS A JANITOR,
MENI CLEANS UP MESSES,
FITTING BECAUSE FOR YEARS HE
FELT LIKE HIS LIFE WAS ONE
BIG MESS.
A HUSBAND AND FATHER TO
THREE YOUNG KIDS, HE HAD BIG
DREAMS FOR HIS FAMILY.
THEN A DEADLY ATTACK CHANGED
HIS LIFE FOREVER.
MENI'S JOURNEY BROUGHT HIM
HERE TO THE MID-WESTERN
SETTING OF COLUMBIA,
MISSOURI.
BUT HIS PAINFUL AND DRAMATIC
STORY HAS ITS ROOTS SOME
7,000 MILES AWAY, HOME TO
ONE OF THE WORLD'S MOST
DEADLIEST CONFLICTS.
BORN AND RAISED IN WAR-TORN
CONGO, NENI, WHO'S MOTHER
AND SIBLINGS WERE KIDNAPPED
IN RAIDS, SPENT MUCH OF HIS
LIFE ON THE RUN.
THE DAY HIS WORLD TURNED UP
SIDE DOWN MIRRORS THE
BLOODSHED WITH HUTUS AND
TUTUS IN NEIGHBORING
COUNTRIES, DEPICTED IN THE
FILM "HOTEL RWANDA."
IT STARTED LIKE ANY OTHER
NIGHT, BUT THEN GUNFIRE
AWAKENED HIS SLEEPING
FAMILY.
RAIDERS WERE ATTACKING THE
VILLAGE.
SINCE THE ATTACKERS USUALLY
TARGETED THE MEN FIRST, MENI
TOLD HIS WIFE TO TAKE THE
CHILDREN AND RUN, WHILE HE
RAN THE OTHER DIRECTION,
HOPING TO SPARE THEIR
LIVES.
WHAT WE SAID WAS, IT IS
ONLY GOD WHO CAN SAVE US
NOW.
LET'S RUN.
Reporter: HE RETURNED
THE FOLLOWING MORNING TO A
HEARTBREAKING SCENE, ALL OF
THE VILLAGE HOUSES BURNED TO
THE GROUND.
HE WAS TOLD HIS WIFE AND
KIDS WERE DEAD.
IT WAS AT THAT TIME THAT
I REALIZED I'LL NEVER SEE
THEM AGAIN.
Reporter: ALONE AND
FEARING ANOTHER ATTACK, MENI
DECIDED TO FLEE, PRAYING --
GOD, IF WE ARE
CHRISTIANS, WHY IS THIS
HAPPENING?
BUT IN MY HEART, I FELT A
VOICE SAYING, LOOK AT THE
LIFE OF JOB.
SO I REALIZED WHAT I WAS
GOING THROUGH WAS NOT EVEN
DIFFICULT.
Reporter: TWO MONTHS
LATER HE FOUND SAFE HARBOR,
TRAVELLING NEAR A THOUSAND
MILES TO HIS HOME IN CONGO
TO RWANDA, AND THEN FINALLY
TO KENYA.
ALL THE WHILE HE RELIED ON
HIS FAITH IN GOD AND THE
HELP OF STRANGERS.
AFTER THREE YEARS IN KENYA
CAME GOOD NEWS, HE WAS GOING
TO AMERICA AS A REFUGEE.
I WAS HAPPY, BUT I SAID,
GOD, IF MY FAMILY WAS ALIVE,
I COULD HAVE GONE WITH THEM
TO THE UNITED STATES.
Reporter: MENI MADE
MID-MISSOURI HIS HOME.
THE ONLY THING HE BROUGHT
WITH HIM WAS THE BIBLE HE
ESCAPED WITH DURING THE
RAID, AND IN IT, A PICTURE
OF HIS WIFE, FRANCINE.
HOPING TO PUT HIS PAINFUL
PAST BEHIND HIM, HE POURED
HIMSELF INTO HIS WORK, JUST
AS HE DID FARMING, TEACHING,
AND PREACHING IN CONGO.
HE ALSO PLEDGED NEVER TO
REMARRY UNLESS HE KNEW FOR
SURE FRANCINE WAS DEAD.
I HAD A FEELING THAT
MAYBE MY FAMILY COULD BE
ALIVE.
BUT WHEN I LOOKED AROUND IN
THE NATURAL, I SAID, NO, I
AM CHEATING MYSELF.
BUT IN MY SPIRIT, I FELT
STRENTHENED.
Reporter: HE FOUND WORK
AS A CUSTODIAN, BUT HIS TRUE
CALLING IS MINISTRY.
HE LEADS AFRICAN WORSHIP
SERVICES EVERY SUNDAY HERE
AT FIRST BAPTIST CHURCH IN
COLUMBIA, WHERE
CONGREGATION, CO-WORKERS AND
FRIENDS HAVE BECOME FAMILY
AND A NETWORK OF SUPPORT.
INSTANTLY OUR HEARTS WERE
JUST CONNECTED, AND HE JUST
BECAME MY SON.
Reporter: ONE OF HIS
BIGGEST SUPPORTERS IS
CHARLOTTE GATI.
THEY MET WHEN HE CAME TO HER
BANK FOR A CAR LOAN AND
BONDED OVER THEIR FAITH IN
CHRIST.
HE SAYS HE NO LONGER FEELS
LIKE AN ORPHAN.
A YEAR AFTER COMING TO
AMERICA, MENI RECEIVED AN
UNEXPECTED PHONE CALL.
HIS WIFE AND ALL THREE
CHILDREN WERE ALIVE IN
KENYA.
BUT HE WOULD WAIT ANOTHER
FOUR YEARS, ENDURING HOLDUPS
LIKE OUTBREAKS, PAPERWORK,
AND CANCELLED FLIGHTS.
WHEN THEY FINALLY GOT THE
GREEN LIGHT, MAMA CHARLOTTE
SPRANG INTO ACTION, HELPING
WITH IMMIGRATION DETAILS,
AND FINDING A PLACE BIG
ENOUGH FOR THE FAMILY TO
LIVE.
WITH THE HELP OF DONORS AND
FELLOW BELIEVERS, SHE
ORGANIZED A CITY-WIDE EFFORT
TO FURNISH THE FAMILY'S NEW
HOME.
WE WENT FROM AN EMPTY
APARTMENT TO A COMPLETELY
FURNISHED APARTMENT, FROM
TENNIS SHOES TO CIVIL
SILVERWARE.
GOD SUPPLIED EVERYTHING.
Reporter: LAST SUMMER,
AFTER 11 YEARS APART, MENI
FINALLY REUNITED WITH HIS
FAMILY.
THEY SHARED THEIR NEWS WITH
CBN NEWS.
ONCE I SAW THEM COMING
THROUGH THE AIRPORT, I
CRIED.
Reporter: THEY SAY
THEIR STORY CAN ONLY BE
DESCRIBED AS A MIRACLE.
DEEP IN MY HEART, I KNEW
MY HUSBAND WAS DEAD BECAUSE
WE WITNESSED SO MANY TIMES
THE RAIDERS COMING IN AND
KILLING THE MEN IN THE
VILLAGE, OR TAKING THEM IN
THE BUSH.
LATER WE WOULD FIND THE
BODIES OF PEOPLE WHO HAVE
BEEN KILLED THERE.
LOOKING BACK AND SEEING WHAT
HAPPENED, THE ONLY THING I
CAN SAY IS THIS IS GOD'S
DOING.
IT IS LIKE ANOTHER
WEDDING WE HAVE GONE
THROUGH.
WE HAVE BEEN WEDDED, MY WIFE
AND MY CHILDREN.
Reporter: I ASKED
FRANCINE WHAT SHE THOUGHT
WHEN SHE FIRST SAW HER
HUSBAND.
WHEN I LOST SAW HIM IN
CONGO, HE IS YOUNGER.
HE HAS GROWN OLDER.
HE HAS STARTED LOSING HAIR
ON HIS HEAD.
Reporter: MENI, WHEN
YOU SAW HER, DID SHE LOOK
THE SAME OR EVEN MORE
BEAUTIFUL?
BEAUTIFUL, VERY
BEAUTIFUL.
Reporter: MENI AND HIS
FAMILY HAVE SPENT THE LAST
SEVERAL MONTHS GETTING TO
KNOW EACH OTHER.
HIS KIDS, WHOM HE LAST SAW
AS TODDLERS, ARE NOW TEENS.
AND HE IS GETTING TO KNOW AN
ORPHAN BOY HIS WIFE FOUND
AND ADOPTED AFTER THE
VILLAGE RAID.
BUT IT DOESN'T END THERE.
MENI BECAME AN AMERICAN
CITIZEN IN FEBRUARY, AND IN
APRIL HE AND FRANCINE
WELCOMED THEIR FIFTH CHILD,
A BABY BOY THEY NAMED
ISRAEL.
THIS IS A BABY OF JOY.
TO ME, IT IS LIKE A
PRESENT I HAVE BEEN GIVEN.
Reporter: MENI ADMITS
IT IS TOUGH SUPPORTING THE
FAMILY ON HIS INCOME, NOT TO
MENTION HAVING TO REPAY THE
U.S. GOVERNMENT NEARLY
$8,000 FOR THE FAMILY'S
FLIGHT TO THE U.S.
BUT HE SAYS HE IS GRATEFUL
AND WOULDN'T CHANGE A
THING.
MEANWHILE, HIS FAMILY IS
STILL INSPIRING THOSE IN THE
COMMUNITY AND ALL WHO HEAR
THEIR STORY.
THIS COUPLE REPRESENTS SO
MUCH IN FAITHFULNESS OF GOD
AND THEIR VOWS TO EACH OTHER
AND THE HOLINESS OF THOSE
VOWS.
AND THEY WERE FAITHFUL TO
THE VOW TO GOD AND THEY WERE
FAITHFUL TO EACH OTHER.
AND GOD USED THAT IN A
MIRACULOUS WAY.
Reporter: JOHN JESSUP,
CBN NEWS, REPORTING IN
COLUMBIA, MISSOURI.
Pat: THANKS, JOHN.
NOW THAT IS A LOVE STORY.
ISN'T THAT BEAUTIFUL?
Terry: IT REALLY IS.
Pat: GOD TRIUMPHS OVER
ADVERSITY.
WHAT HAVE YOU GOT?
Terry: COMING UP, THE
NEUROSURGEON WHO ONCE
SEPARATED CO-JOINED TWINS IS
NOW TRYING TO UNITE A
NATION.
DR. BEN CARSON JOINS US
LIVE, AND THAT'S NEXT.
Pat: YESTERDAY I WAS
LISTENING ON THE CAR RADIO
TO THE FOX NEWS CHANNEL.
AND A SPOT CAME ON WHICH
SAID, "RUN, BEN, RUN."
YOU THINK, WHO IS BEN?
WELL, THEY SAY LET'S GET
PETITIONS TO TALK DR. BEN
CARSON INTO RUNNING FOR
PRESIDENT.
THIS IS A GROUP THAT FEELS
THAT THIS MAN CAN DO
SOMETHING.
WELL, DOES IT TAKE A BRAIN
SURGEON TO REALIZE THAT
AMERICA IS IN TROUBLE?
ALTHOUGH IT MAY TAKE ONE TO
FIX THE PROBLEM, LET'S TAKE
A LOOK.
Reporter: HE STOOD A
FEW FEET FROM PRESIDENT
OBAMA AND WARNED OUR NATION
ABOUT THE DANGERS OF MORAL
DECAY.
HE IS DR. BEN CARSON, A
NEUROSURGEON WHO IS KNOWN
FOR HIS CONSERVATIVE SOCIAL
AND POLITICAL VIEWS.
HE SAYS AMERICANS ARE
COMPRISING ON THEIR VALUES,
AND THE PHRASE "IN GOD WE
TRUST" IS BECOMING AN
OBSOLETE CLICHE.
IN THIS BOOK "ONE NATION,"
DR. CARSON SHARES WHAT
ACTIONS WERE CAN TAKE TO
ONCE AGAIN BECOME ONE NATION
UNDER GOD AND SAVE OUR
COUNTRY'S FUTURE.
Pat: THIS IS A MAN WHO
DID SOMETHING NO DOCTOR HAD
EVER DONE IN HISTORY.
HE SEPARATED CONJOINED
TWINS, JOINED TOGETHER AT
THE HEAD.
THEY OPERATED FOR, I DON'T
KNOW HOW MANY HOURS, BUT HE
BECAME FAMOUS.
HE HAS DOCTORAL DEGREES FROM
50 OR MORE UNIVERSITIES, AND
HE IS HERE WITH US.
IT IS GOOD TO BE WITH
YOU.
Pat: GOD BLESS YOU.
WHAT IS THIS RUNNING STUFF?
"RUN, BEN, RUN."
I THINK A LOT OF PEOPLE
JUST FEEL THAT WE NEED SOME
COMMON SENSE.
I DON'T KNOW THAT IT IS SO
MUCH ME AS IT IS THE FACT
THAT PEOPLE ASSOCIATE ME
WITH COMMON SENSE.
AND, YOU KNOW, MANY OF THE
PROBLEMS THAT WE FACE IN
THIS NATION CAN EASILY BE
REMEDY BY A LITTLE WISDOM
FROM ABOVE.
Pat: YOU SPOKE AT THE
PRAYER BREAKFAST, AND YOU
TURNED TO PRESIDENT CLINTON
AND SHOCKED EVERYBODY WITH
WHAT YOU TOLD HIM.
PRESIDENT OBAMA.
Pat: PRESIDENT OBAMA.
I'M SORRY.
WHAT WAS YOUR MESSAGE?
I DIDN'T KNOW WHAT MY
MESSAGE WAS GOING TO BE.
WHEN I WAS FIRST ASKED TO DO
THAT, I WAS SHOCKED, BECAUSE
I HAD DONE IT 16 YEARS
EARLIER FOR PRESIDENT
CLINTON.
I DIDN'T KNOW IF ANYBODY
EVER DID IT TWICE, AND THEY
SAID ONE PERSON DID, AND
THAT'S BILLY GRAHAM.
SO I REALIZED GOD PROBABLY
HAD SOMETHING SPECIAL HE
WANTED ME TO SAY.
BUT I DIDN'T KNOW WHAT UNTIL
THE MORNING OF THE PRAYER
BREAKFAST.
AFTER WRESTLING IT WITH FOR
A WHILE, I SAID I'M LEAVING
IT ALONE.
THE LORD WILL TELL ME WHAT
TO SAY.
AND THAT MORNING IT WAS SO
CLEAR IN MY MIND, WHAT I WAS
SUPPOSED TO SAY.
AND IT HAD NOTHING TO DO
WITH ATTACKING THE
PRESIDENT.
IT HAD EVERYTHING TO DO WITH
THE STATE OF OUR NATION,
PARTICULARLY WITH OUR
SPIRITUAL AND MORAL STATE.
AND, YOU KNOW, THE FACT THAT
ONE OF THE FOUNDING
PRINCIPLES OF OUR NATION,
FREEDOM OF EXPRESSION,
FREEDOM OF SPEECH, WAS
COMPLETELY UNDER ATTACK.
Pat: YES.
BY POLITICAL
CORRECTNESS.
AND PEOPLE WERE AFRAID TO
EXPRESS THEMSELVES.
AND THE OTHER BIG THING IS
WE'RE DESTROYING THE
FUTURE.
Pat: UH-HUH.
I GREW UP IN DETROIT.
WHICH WAS ONCE THE MOST
PROSPEROUS CITY IN AMERICA.
NOW THE LARGEST BANKRUPTCY.
AND THE WAY THEY GOT THERE
IS DOING EXACTLY THE SAME
THING OUR NATION IS DOING
NOW, KICKING THE CAN DOWN
THE ROAD, NOT TAKING
RESPONSIBILITY, SPENDING UP
THE MONEY, RECOGNIZING THAT
AT SOME POINT YOU'D HAVE TO
PAY, BUT BY THAT TIME YOU
WOULD BE LONG GONE AND IT
WOULD BE SOMEBODY ELSE'S
PROBLEM.
THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT WE'RE
DOING AS A NATION RIGHT
NOW.
THAT IS COMPLETELY IMMORAL.
AND THEN, YOU KNOW, LOOKING
AT OUR TAXATION SYSTEM, HOW
UNJUST IT IS, AND YET, YOU
KNOW, WE HAVE PEOPLE SAYING,
WELL, THESE PEOPLE NEED TO
PAY MORE.
I MEAN, WHAT WE NEED IS
SOMETHING THAT TAXES
EVERYONE EQUAL.
THAT'S WHY I BROUGHT UP
TITHING IN THE BIBLE.
YOU MAKE A LOT, YOU PAY A
LOT.
YOU MAKE A LITTLE, YOU PAY A
LITTLE.
AND EVERYBODY GETS THE SAME
RIGHTS.
THAT IS JUST.
BUT WHAT IS UNJUST IS YOU
TAKE PEOPLE WHO DON'T PAY
MUCH INCOME TAX AND YOU GET
TO SAY WHAT OTHER PEOPLE
PAY.
WE HAVE SO MANY POLICIES
LIKE THAT.
WHAT WE REALLY NEED TO DO IS
START THINKING ABOUT WHAT
DOES AMERICA REPRESENT, AND
WHY WERE WE HERE?
YOU LOOK AT OUR MONEY AND IT
SAYS "IN GOD WE TRUST," AND
YET WE RIDICULE PEOPLE WHO
BELIEVE IN GOD.
AND WE TAKE THE VERY
PRINCIPLES THAT THE BIBLE
HISTORY GIVEN US, AND W HAS
GIVEN US AND WE TRY TO TOSS
THEM TO THE SIDE.
WE TRY TO REDEFINE WHAT GOD
HAS ESTABLISHED.
I'M FOR FAIRNESS TO
EVERYONE.
I DON'T WANT TO FORCE
ANYBODY TO DO WHAT I WANT
THEM TO DO.
BUT I DON'T WANT THEM TO
IMPOSE UPON ME AND TELL ME
WHAT I CAN'T DO AND WHAT I
CAN'T SAY.
AND THIS IS WHERE THE REAL
FIGHT IS.
IF WE REALLY WANT EQUALITY
AND FAIRNESS, IT HAS TO BE
APPLIED ACROSS THE BOARD AND
IN BOTH DIRECTIONS.
Pat: WHAT ABOUT THIS
HEALTH CARE THING?
YOU'RE INTIMATELY INVOLVED,
YOU'RE HEAD OF NEUROSURGERY
AT JOHNS HOPKINS.
WHAT ABOUT THIS HEALTH CARE
INITIATIVE?
WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT IT?
I CERTAINLY BELIEVE WE
HAVE THE ABILITY TO PROVIDE
GOOD HEALTH CARE FOR ALL OF
OUR CITIZENS.
I THINK AS COMPASSIONATE
PEOPLE, THAT IS A
RESPONSIBILITY.
THE REASON THAT I RAIL SO
STRONGLY AGAINST THE
AFFORDABLE HEALTH CARE ACT
IS BECAUSE, FIRST OF ALL, IT
IS NOT AFFORDABLE, AND,
SECONDLY, BECAUSE IT TAKES
THE MOST IMPORTANT THING
THAT A PERSON HAS, THEIR
HEALTH, THEIR HEALTH CARE,
AND PUTS IT IN THE HANDS OF
GOVERNMENT BUREAUCRATS.
AND IF THE GOVERNMENT CAN
CONTROL THE MOST IMPORTANT
THING YOU HAVE, IT IS NOT
LONG BEFORE THEY CAN CONTROL
EVERYTHING IN YOUR LIFE.
AND, YOU KNOW, WHAT HAPPENED
WITH THE V.A. HOSPITAL I
SENSE IS A GIFT FROM GOD.
IT IS A GIFT IN A SENSE IT
HELPS PEOPLE SEE EXACTLY
WHAT WILL HAPPEN IF WE
PROCEED DOWN THIS ROAD, OF
PUTTING ALL OF OUR HEALTH
CARE IN THE HANDS OF
BUREAUCRATS.
I'VE WORKED IN V.A.
HOSPITALS, WONDERFUL,
DEDICATED, CARING PEOPLE,
BUT THERE WAS SO MANY LAYERS
BETWEEN THE HEALTH CARE
PROVIDER AND THE PATIENT
THAT IT MADE TAKING CARE OF
PEOPLE SOMETIMES VERY, VERY
DIFFICULT.
AND, YOU KNOW, WE CAN DO
BETTER THAN THAT.
WE DON'T HAVE TO HAVE ALL OF
THIS BUYER CRAS SEE.
BUREAUCRACY.
IF YOU ALLOW GOVERNMENT TO
FEED ON ITSELF, IT NEVER
REDUCES ITSELF.
IT JUST CONTINUES TO GROW
AND REQUIRE MORE AND MORE
RESOURCES --
Pat: DO YOU THINK WE
CAN DO THAT, GET PEOPLE OFF
THE DOUGH?
THEY'RE USED TO GETTING ALL
OF THESE GOODIES FROM
WASHINGTON AND NOT HAVING TO
PAY.
WHAT DO YOU THINK?
WE HAVE TO DO IT IN A
WISE WAY.
THE FIRST THING WE HAVE TO
DO IS GET THE ECONOMY
MOVING.
AND THAT'S NOT THAT
DIFFICULT.
WE HAVE THE HIGHEST
CORPORATE TAX RATES IN THE
WORLD.
WE HAVE ALL OF THESE RULES
AND REGULATIONS, DOZENS OF
WHICH COME OUT EVERY WEEK,
CIRCLING BUSINESS, INDUSTRY,
AND ACADEMIA.
SO IF THE GOVERNMENT DOESN'T
LIKE YOU, THEY PULL SOME OF
THOSE REGULATIONS AND YOU'RE
OUT OF BUSINESS.
THIS IS HAPPENING UNDER OUR
FEET.
MOST PEOPLE HAVE NO IDEA
WHAT'S GOING ON.
THEY'RE JUST, LIKE, WHO IS
ON DANC "DANCING WITH THE
STARS"?
AND WHO IS PLAYING
BASKETBALL TONIGHT?
WE'RE BEING MEMORIZED WHILE
OUR COUNTRY IS BEING
FUNDAMENTALLY CHANGED.
THAT'S THE REASON THAT WE
WROTE THIS BOOK.
Pat: LET ME PUT THIS UP
AND SHOW PEOPLE.
AND IT'S CALLED "ONE NATION,
BEN CARSON."
YOU CAN ALL DO THE SAME TO
SAVE AMERICA'S FUTURE.
DR. BEN CARSON, A FABULOUS
BOOK, WITH WONDERFUL
COMMON-SENSE IDEAS.
SOMETHING IN THIS BOOK IS
FASCINATING.
YOU DEAL WITH BRAINS.
YOU'RE A NEUROSURGEON.
YOU DEAL WITH BRAINS.
YOU SAID SOMETHING THAT YOU
CAN GET DEEP STIMULATION
WITH THE BRAIN, AND YOU
COULD GET SOMEBODY WHO COULD
READ A BOOK AND RECITE A
WHOLE CHAPTER IN THAT BOOK.
IS THAT TRUE?
THAT'S ABSOLUTELY TRUE.
WHAT YOU LEARN NEVER GOES
AWAY.
IT STAYS IN YOUR BRAIN.
EVERYTHING YOU'VE EVER SEEN,
EVERYTHING YOU'VE EVER
HEARD, IT'S ALL THERE.
I COULD MAKE A WHOLE IN YOUR
HEAD AND PUT BRAIN STEMS
INTO YOUR CAMPO, AND YOU
COULD TELL ME VERBATIM
SOMETHING YOU READ 60 YEARS
AGO.
AND THAT TELLS YOU IT IS
IMPORTANT TO MONITOR WHAT IS
GOING INTO YOUR BRAIN.
BECAUSE IF IT IS ALWAYS
THERE, IT ALWAYS AFFECTS
YOU, EVEN AT A SUBCONSCIOUS
LEVEL.
Pat: YOU SAID THERE IS
TWO MILLION BITS YOU CAN
PROCESS?
TWO MILLION BITS PER
SECOND.
AND YOU CAN'T OVERLOAD YOUR
BRAIN.
IF YOU LEARNED ONE NEW FACT
EVERY SECOND, IT WOULD TAKE
YOU MORE THAN THREE MILLION
YEARS TO CHALLENGE THE
CAPACITY OF YOUR BRAIN.
THE LORD GAVE US A LOT.
Pat: THIS BABY IS SO
UNDERUTILIZED, IT HURTS.
WE'RE ALL UNDERUTILIZING
IT.
IF THERE IS ONE PERSON ON
EARTH TODAY WHO UTILIZED ALL
OF THEIR BRAIN, THEY WOULD
IMMEDIATELY BECOME THE
SUPERIOR FORCE ON EARTH.
Pat: ARE YOU SERIOUS?
ABSOLUTELY.
Pat: WHEW!
YOU CAN DO THAT TO ME,
DOCTOR.
GET YOUR ELECTRODE ON AND
LET'S GO.
THAT'S WHAT THE GOOD LORD
GAVE US.
HE MADE US IN HIS IMAGE.
SO WE SHOULD NEVER BE
SITTING AROUND THINKING
ABOUT WHAT WE CAN'T DO, BUT
WHAT WE CAN DO.
Pat: UNLIMITED
POSSIBILITIES?
ABSOLUTELY.
Pat: DR. CARSON IS A
DISTINGUISHED MEMBER OF THE
BOARD OF TRUSTEES OF REGENT
FOR MANY YEARS.
AND I CERTAINLY ENJOYED
IT.
Pat: AND YOUR WIFE IS A
VIOLINIST AND A BEAUTIFUL
PERSON.
THIS BOOK IS AVAILABLE.
GOD BLESS YOU.
PLEASE PRAY FOR DR. CARSON,
Terry: IF YOU WANT TO
SEE HOW GOOD A SURGEON
DR. CARSON IS, LOG ON TO
CBN.COM.
WE PUT HIM TO THE TEST IN
THE GREEN ROOM.
THAT'S STILL AHEAD.
AND LARRY SAYS, "A FEW DAYS
AGO YOU SAID IT IS OKAY FOR
A WOMAN WHO'S HUSBAND LEFT
HER TO SEEK A DIVORCE.
WHERE IN THE BIBLE DOES IT
SAY THAT'S OKAY?"
STAY TUNED FOR THAT AND
MORE.
IT'S ALL LATER ON TODAY'S
SHOW.
WELCOME BACK TO "THE 700
CLUB."
CHILDREN AS YOUNG AS 12
COULD HAVE ACCESS TO FREE
CONDOMS IN ONE SCHOOL
DISTRICT IN OREGON.
THE SCHOOL BOARD APPROVED
CONDOM DISTRIBUTION TO
STUDENTS IN SIXTH GREATER
AND UP.
THE DISTRICT SUPERINTENDENT
SAYS THERE WAS NINE
PREGNANCIES IN THE MIDDLE
AND HIGH SCHOOL AND THEY
HOPE THE CONDOM DISTRIBUTION
WILL BRING THAT NUMBER
DOWN.
TO GET A FREE CONDOM, THE
STUDENTS WILL HAVE TO HAVE A
CONVERSATION WITH EITHER A
NURSE, COUNSELLOR, OR SEX-ED
TEACHER.
THE NATION'S LARGEST
PROTESTANT DENOM
DENOMINATION FOUND ITS
NUMBERS DECLINING.
THE NUMBER OF SBC CHURCHES
SLIGHTLY FELL.
THE CONVENTION WILL HOLD ITS
ANNUAL MEETING ON
JUNE 10th AND 11th IN
BALTIMORE.
YOU CAN ALWAYS GET THE
LATEST FROM CBN NEWS BY
GOING TO OUR WEBSITE AT
CBNNEWS.COM.
PAT AND TERRY WILL BE BACK
WITH MORE OF "THE 700 CLUB"
RIGHT AFTER THIS.
Terry: VIEWERS ARE
RAVING ABOUT "THE AMERICAN
BIBLE CHALLENGE."
AND IF YOU WANT TO TRY YOUR
HAND AS A CONTESTANT, HERE
IS A QUESTION FROM TONIGHT'S
PROGRAM.
WHAT PART OF "DON'T EAT
THE FRUIT" DIDN'T YOU
UNDERSTAND?
[LAUGHTER]
HERE IS THE QUESTION:
ADAM WAS TOLD NOT TO EAT THE
FRUIT FROM THE TREE OF
KNOWLEDGE OF WHAT?
LIFE?
GOOD AND EVIL?
SIN?
OR FANTASY FOOTBALL?
Terry: OBVIOUSLY
FANTASY FOOTBALL.
YOU CAN GET THE ANSWER TO
THAT AND MORE DURING AN ALL
NEW EPISODE.
THAT'S TONIGHT.
ALL YOU HAVE TO DO IS TUNE
INTO THE GAME SHOW NETWORK
AT 8:00, 7:00 CENTRAL.
IT SOUNDS LIKE FUN.
Pat: THEY ASKED ME TWO
OR THREE OF THOSE QUESTIONS,
AND SO I MAY SHOW UP IN
THAT, TOO.
IT'S A GREAT SHOW.
JEFF FOXWORTHY IS A FUNNY
GUY.
Terry: WE'VE GOT "BRING
IT ON" RIGHT NOW WITH SOME
QUESTIONS.
THE FIRST ONE, PAT, IS FROM
LARRY, WHO SAYS, "DEAR PAT,
ON TODAY'S SHOW A WOMAN
WROTE TO SAY HER HUSBAND
LEFT HER AND HER CHILDREN
FOR ANOTHER WOMAN.
YOU ANSWERED SHE SHOULD GET
A DIVORCE BECAUSE HE BROKE
THE COVENANT.
I SEE NO REFERENCE IN THE
BIBLE THAT THAT'S OKAY.
WHAT I LEARNED IS THE PERSON
WHO LEAVES THE SPOUSE IS IN
ADULTERY.
AND THE SPOUSE CAN CAUSE THE
OTHER TO COMMIT ADULTERY IF
THE SPOUSE REMARRIES.
AREN'T YOU GIVING THE WRONG
INFORMATION?"
Pat: I THINK YOU'RE TOO
SMART BY HALF.
MATTHEW 19: 9: "I TELL YOU,
ANYONE WHO DIVORCES HIS
WIFE, QUOTE,"EXCEPT FOR
SEXUAL IMMORTALITY," COMMITS
ADULTERY."
JESUS PUT IN A CLAUSE THERE
IF THEY'RE UNFAITHFUL, IF
THEY COMMIT SEXUAL SIN, THAT
MARRIAGE HAS BEEN BROKEN AND
THEY CAN REMARRY.
OTHERWISE THEY WILL COMMIT
ADULTERY.
WHAT'S NEXT?
Terry: HOLLY SAYS,
"I'VE BEEN GOING THROUGH
ANXIETY AND DEPRESSION FOR
OVER A MONTH.
WHILE PRAYING IN MY MIND, I
SAY FOUL THINGS TO GOD.
I DON'T WANT TO DO IT.
WILL GOD HOLD ME ACCOUNTABLE
FOR THIS?
I DON'T WANT TO DIE WITHOUT
GOD."
Pat: I DON'T WANT TO
OVERSTATE THIS, BUT IT
SOUNDS LIKE, EITHER YOU'VE
GOT A MENTAL PROBLEM, WHICH
IS VERY POSSIBLE -- YOU
KNOW, SOME OF THOSE DISEASES
CAUSE FOUL THOUGHTS.
BUT IT SOUNDS LIKE DEMONIC
ACTIVITY THAT YOU HAVE BEEN
EXPOSED TO, AND THERE IS A
FILTHY DEMON THAT HAS GOTTEN
HOLD OF SOME OF YOUR
THINKING.
I THINK YOU NEED TO GO TO
SOMEBODY WHO UNDERSTANDS
DELIVERANCE AND UNDERSTAND
WH UNDERSTANDS HOW TO GET
RID OF THESE THINGS AND
REBUKE THAT DEMON AND CAST
IT FORTH FROM YOU.
NOW, YOU COULD HAVE SOME
MENTAL PROBLEM.
THERE ARE DISEASES THAT
CAUSES PEOPLE TO SAY NASTY,
HORRIBLE THINGS.
BUT THAT SOUNDS LIKE IT IS
IN YOUR MIND.
GOD UNDERSTANDS, BUT YOU
NEED TO ASK HIM FOR HELP
BECAUSE YOU HAVE BEEN
CAPTURED BY SOMETHING THAT
ISN'TP YOU ISN'T OF YOUR
LIKING.
Terry: PATRICIA
SAYS, "HOW CAN A MOTHER DEAL
WITH A SON WHO CALLS HER
VIAL NAMES?"
Pat: I TELL YOU WHAT
THEY DO IN THE BIBLE, THEY
STONE HIM.
THAT'S A LITTLE HARSH.
BUT, SERIOUSLY, I THINK YOU
HAVE EVERY REASON TO CALLED
CHILD PROTECTIVE SERVICES TO
GET THAT KID INTO SOME KIND
OF REHAB.
THE NEXT THING YOU KNOW,
HE'LL START GETTING VIOLENT
AND BEAT YOU UP.
HE IS DANGEROUS.
YOU NEED TO DEAL WITH IT
HARSHLY.
OBVIOUSLY YOU DON'T HAVE A
MAN IN THE HOUSE.
IF YOU HAD A MAN IN THE
HOUSE, HE WOULD GET THAT KID
TO BEHAVE HIMSELF.
HE IS TAKING ADVANTAGE OF
YOU.
BUT THAT IS NOT A GOOD
THING.
HE NEEDS PROFESSIONAL HELP.
Terry: AT LEAST,
COUNSELLING, SURE.
CHRISTOPHER SAYS, "I LIVE IN
A CITY CALLED LEADS IN THE
NORTH OF ENGLAND.
SIGI'VE DISCOVERED A LOT OF
CHUMP CHURCHES IN MY AREA
DON'T TALK ABOUT BEING BORN
AGAIN.
SURELY IF ATHLETE THESE
CHURCHES DON'T BELIEVE IN
WHAT I CONSIDER IS
FUNDAMENTAL CHRISTIANITY, IS
THERE ANY HOPE FOR US HERE
IN ENGLAND?"
Pat: THERE IS A HISTORY
IN THE UNITED KINGDOM -- THE
CHRISTIANITY WE EXPERIENCE
CAME FROM THAT AREA.
AND THE KING JAMES BIBLE
CAME FROM ENGLAND.
CHARLES AND JOHN WESLEY LED
A GREAT CRUSADE, AND THERE
WAS A TURNING TO GOD BY
HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF
PEOPLE, AND THAT NATION WAS
SPARED THE TERRORS OF THE
TRENCH REVOLUTION, SO THE
SAME THING CAN HAPPEN.
Terry: THIS IS A
QUESTION FROM VICKI.
SHE SAYS, "I WOULD LIKE TO
KNOW IF SELF-PLEASURE, MAST
BASE MASTERBATION IS
WRONG?
WHAT IF A PERSON IS SINGLE
AND THEY DON'T KNOW IF THEY
WILL MARRY AGAIN?"
Pat: THAT IS A
TREMENDOUS QUESTION.
I'M GLAD YOU HAD THE COURAGE
TO ASK IT.
FIRST OF ALL, THERE WAS A
MAN IN THE OLD TESTAMENT
WHO'S NAME WAS ONAN.
AND HIS BROTHER DIED, AND HE
WAS CHILDLESS.
SO THE LAW WAS, ONAN, YOU'VE
GOT TO GO MARRY THE WIDOW
AND HAVE CHILDREN FOR YOUR
BROTHER.
WELL, ONAN MARRIED THE
WOMAN, HAD SEX WITH THE
WOMAN, BUT AT THE POINT OF
CONSUMMATION HE,
QUOTE,"EMITTED ON THE
GROUND."
HE REFUSED TO ALLOW HIS SEED
TO PROCREATE HER.
AND THE BIBLE SAYS GOD
KILLED HIM.
AND THAT ONANISM HAS BEEN
LINKED TO MASTERBATION.
THAT'S NUMBER ONE.
BUT THAT DOESN'T SAY IT'S A
SIN.
IT JUST SAID WHAT HE DID WAS
WRONG BECAUSE HE WAS
SUPPOSED TO --
Terry: HE DIDN'T FOLLOW
THE LAW.
Pat: HE DIDN'T FOLLOW
THE LAW BY GIVING HIS SEED
FOR HIS BROTHER'S HEIR.
AND THE NEXT THING JESUS
SAID WAS, IF YOU SEE A WOMAN
AND YOU FANTASIZE HAVING SEX
WITH HER, YOU HAVE COMMITTED
ADULTERY IN YOUR MIND.
SO THAT FANTASY THOUGHT IS
EQUIVALENT TO THE ACT,
ACCORDING TO THE BIBLE.
NOW, THE OTHER THING THAT I
WANT TO POINT OUT TO YOU,
THE BIBLE SAYS WHATEVER IS
NOT OF FAITH IS SIN.
YOU PUT IT ALL TOGETHER, AND
WE'RE DEALING WITH A WOMAN
WHO IS, I WOULD SAY, 50 --
MIDDLE-AGED -- YOU DON'T
KNOW.
Terry: COULD BE IN HER
40s.
Pat: I DARE SAY PAST
CHILD BEARING, LONELY, AND
YET HER BODY HAS BEEN USED
TO SEXUAL INTERCOURSE AND
THE RELATIONSHIP WITH A
LOVING HUSBAND, AND SHE
YEARNS FOR THAT TYPE OF
RELATIONSHIP.
SO WHAT DOES SHE DO?
I THINK WE ARE PHYSICAL
BEINGS AND SPIRITUAL
BEINGS.
AND THE SPIRITUAL NEEDS TO
TAKE AUTHORITY WHERE
POSSIBLE.
IN A THING LIKE THIS, THE
APOSTLE PAUL SAYS IT IS
BETTER TO MARRY THAN TO BE
CONSUMED WITH LUST.
SO IF YOU CAN FIND A
HUSBAND, THAT'S THE BEST
THING.
BEFORE THE LORD, TO RELEASE
THESE TENSIONS -- MEN HAVE A
MECHANISM THAT TAKES PLACE
AT NIGHT WHERE THEY HAVE THE
RELEASE OF THE SEXUAL
TENSION THAT BUILDS UP.
YOU NEED A SIMILAR RELEASE.
IF IT IS NOT OF FAITH, IT IS
A SIN.
I CERTAINLY WOULDN'T CONDEMN
IT.
I THINK YOU HAVE A BODY THAT
IS GIVEN TO THE LORD.
GIVE IT TO THE LORD AND LET
HIM LEAD YOU.
I CAN'T THAT IT
IS, QUOTE,"SIN" IN YOUR
CASE.
THAT IS A LENGTHY ANSWER.
Terry: BUT IT WAS A
SERIOUS QUESTION.
Pat: BUT IF PEOPLE ARE
FILLED WITH GUILT, IT'S A
PROBLEM.
BUT IN HER CASE, I DON'T SEE
ANY PROBLEM WITH IT.
BUT IT IS A QUESTION OF WHAT
DO YOU FANTASIZE ABOUT?
IF YOU FANTASIZE YOU'RE
HAVING SEX WITH SOME
GOOD-LOOKING HUNK OUT THERE,
YOU'RE COMMITTING ADULTERY
IN YOUR MIND.
YOU DON'T DO THAT.
Terry: TAKE THE WHOLE
WORD THAT YOU SHARED.
Pat: DOCTORS ARE
FINDING SOMETHING HYSTERIA.
THERE WAS A CONDITION THAT
WAS CAUSED BY THIS PROBLEM.
Terry: GOTCHA.
Pat: SEXUAL RELEASE, IT
IS A PROBLEM.
BUT WE'RE SEE DRENCHED IN
SEX TODAY.
I HEAR THESE LITTLE KIDS IN
MIDDLE SCHOOL THAT ARE
GETTING PREGNANT.
Terry: YOU CAN'T AVOID
IT.
IT IS EVERYWHERE IN OUR
CULTURE, REALLY.
WE HAVE A STORY COMING UP.
AMY CAMP HAD TROUBLE FITTING
IN.
SHE FELT OUT OF PLACE IN HER
FAMILY, WITH HER FRIENDS,
AND EVEN WITH HERSELF AS A
GIRL.
AMY FELT ALONE UNTIL THE DAY
SHE NEARLY OVERDOSED ON
DRUGS.
WHAT IS GOING ON WITH MY
FAMILY?
WHY IS THIS GOING ON?
WHERE DOES THIS LEAVE ME?
HOW AM I GOING TO GET
THROUGH THIS?
Reporter: THE QUESTIONS
SWIRLED IN AMY'S MIND.
HER PARENTS HAD SEPARATED,
AND AT EIGHT YEARS OLD, SHE
DIDN'T UNDERSTAND WHY HER
DAD HAD TO LEAVE.
SEEING HIS LIFE APART
FROM US WAS DIFFERENT.
I BECAME ANGRY, TRYING TO
GET HIS ATTENTION BUT NOT
GETTING ATTENTION.
I THINK I FELT INVISIBLE TO
MY DAD.
Reporter: SHE FOUND
THAT HANGING OUT WITH OLDER
KIDS GAVE HER ACCESS TO
SOMETHING THAT WOULD BLOCK
THE PAIN.
WHEN I WAS ABOUT EIGHT
YEARS OLD OR SO, I STARTED
EXPERIMENTIN EXPERIMENTING
WITH ALCOHOL AND I HAD MY
FIRST STRONG ALCOHOL,
LIQUOR, SNEAKING TO MY
FRIEND'S HOUSE.
I DIDN'T WANT TO FEEL PAIN
ANYMORE.
THE WAY THAT I HAD FELT ALL
THIS TIME, I WANTED IT TO GO
AWAY.
Reporter: GROWING UP,
AMY WAS A TOMBOY.
BY HIGH SCHOOL, SHE WERE YOU
WAS A STANDOUT IN
BASKETBALL.
AND SHE DREAMED OF ONE DAY
PLAYING IN COLLEGE, BUT SHE
NEVER FELT LIKE SHE FIT IN
WITH OTHER GIRLS.
THERE WAS NO WAY I COULD
BE FEMININE LIKE MY
GIRLFRIENDS.
NO BOY WILL EVER LIKE ME
LIKE HE LIKES MY
GIRLFRIEND.
Reporter: EVENTUALLY
HER PARENTS RECONCILED.
AND THEY MOVED TO A NEW
CITY, WHERE SHE MADE NEW
FRIENDS.
AND SHE LIVED A LIFESTYLE
THAT MADE HER FEEL
ACCEPTED.
WHEN I WAS 16, I WAS
INTRODUCED TO A LIFESTYLE OF
HOMOSEXUALITY AND
BASKETBALL.
I DIDN'T LOOK AT WOMAN, AND
THEY WERE JUST, LIKE, WE
RESPECT EACH OTHER.
AND WHEN I WAS INTRODUCED TO
THAT LIFESTYLE, I BEGAN TO
REALLY EMBRACE IT.
AND THEN IT GOT DEEPLY
ROOTED BECAUSE IT BECAME, I
CAN BUILD A LIFE WITH YOU
NOW.
AND WE CAN GET MARRIED AND
HAVE KIDS.
I WAS TRYING SO HARD TO
CREATE A FAMILY.
Reporter: THEN HER
PARENTS FOUND OUT.
AS CHRISTIANS, THEY BELIEVED
THEIR DAUGHTER WAS GOING
DOWN A DANGEROUS PATH AND
MADE HER BREAK IT OFF.
AMY WAS LIVID.
AT THAT POINT, THAT'S
WHEN THE REBELLION KICKED
IN.
AT THAT POINT, I DIDN'T
CARE.
Reporter: SHE DROPPED
OUT OF HIGH SCHOOL AND MOVED
IN WITH A FRIEND WHO WAS A
DRUG DEALER.
ALL OF THIS TIME I'M
BEING JUST HAMMERED WITH MY
THINKING, WITH
INSECURITIES.
AND NOW ALL OF THIS GUILT,
CONDEMNATION.
I CAN'T CHANGE.
ARE YOU MESSED UP?
YOU'RE NOT GOING TO
COLLEGE.
YOUR DREAM OF PLAYING
BASKETBALL IS NEVER GOING TO
HAPPEN.
LOOK AT YOU, YOU'RE A
FAILURE.
ALL OF THAT JUST DROVE ME
EVEN DEEPER.
Reporter: SHE HAD NEVER
DONE HARD DRUGS, BUT SHE
THOUGHT AMPHETAMINES MIGHT
COVER UP THE PAIN.
SHE WAS ADDICTED
IMMEDIATELY.
FOR SEVERAL MONTHS SHE TRIED
TO QUIT BUT COULDN'T.
ONE PARTICULAR NIGHT I
HAD BEEN UP FOR DAYS AND
COULDN'T SLEEP.
I WAS CURLED UP IN A FETAL
POSITION ON THE COUCH, AND I
BEGAN TO SING "JESUS LOVES
ME."
AND WHEN I BEGAN TO SING
THAT SONG THAT I LEARNED AS
A LITTLE KID, I JUST BROKE.
AT THAT MOMENT I CRIED OUT
TO GOD.
I SAID, GOD, IF YOU'LL HELP
ME, IF YOU'LL DELIVER ME
FROM THIS, I'LL SERVE YOU.
AND I FELL ASLEEP.
AND I WOKE UP TO MY FRIENDS
BANGING ON THE DOOR.
AND I ASKED HER, I SAID,
WILL YOU RUN ME BY MY
PARENTS' HOUSE?
MY MOM OPENS THE DOOR, OF
COURSE SURPRISED TO TEE ME,
SEE ME, AND I JUST BASICALLY
COLLAPSED.
AND ALL I COULD SAY WAS, I'M
SO TIRED.
Reporter: HER PARENTS
PRAYED WITH HER, AND SHE
GAVE HER LIFE TO CHRIST.
I KNEW SOMETHING WAS
DIFFERENT.
HE DIDN'T JUST TAKE THE DRUG
ADDICTION.
HE TOOK PAIN, REJECTION, THE
SHAME, THE REGRET, AND HE
FILLED ME WITH LOVE AND JOY
AND PEACE.
AND THAT JUST BEGAN THE
JOURNEY TO HEALING.
Reporter: AMY SAYS
AFTER THAT, THE ADDICTION
VANISHED, AND OVER TIME, SHE
SAYS GOD HELPED HER TURN
AWAY FROM THE HOMOSEXUAL
LIFESTYLE.
THE DESIRE FOR THAT WAS
GONE.
I NO LONGER HAD A DESIRE FOR
THAT.
Reporter: AMY SAYS SHE
NO LONGER WORRIES ABOUT
FITTING IN BECAUSE SHE KNOWS
THAT CHRIST ACCEPTS HER.
SHE NOW ENJOYS DOING
MISSIONARY WORK AND SEVERAL
COUNTRIES AND HAS WRITTEN A
BOOK ABOUT HER JOURNEY,
CALLED "PRODIGAL DAUGHTER."
ALL OF THAT REGRET AND
POOR MINDSETS BROKEN.
SHATTERED, ONE AFTER
ANOTHER, JUST BROKEN.
TODAY I COMPLETELY LIVE
KNOWING THAT I'M LOVED.
KNOWING THAT NO MATTER WHAT,
I'M THE BELOVED DAUGHTER OF
GOD.
Terry: I LOVE AMY'S
STOREYS HER CANDOR AND
STORY, HER CANDOR ABOUT SOME
OF THE CHOICES HE MADE.
THE BIBLE SAYS WE'RE
FEARFULLY AND WONDERFULLY
MADE, AND WE'RE MADE IN THE
IMAGE OF LIKENESS OF GOD,
WHO IS OUR FATHER.
GOD CREATED ALL OF US WITH A
PURPOSE AND A PLAN IN MIND.
HE HAS GOT IT ALL LAID OUT
IF WE'LL JUST LET HIM HELP
US.
THAT'S WHAT HE ASKS US, LET
ME HELP YOU.
HE INVITES US TO A LIFE THAT
AMY IS NOW ENJOYING, ONE OF
FREEDOM, ONE OF FULFILLMENT,
ONE OF WHOLENESS.
JESUS SAID HE CAME TO SET
THE CAPTIVE FREE.
TODAY, IS THERE SOMETHING IN
YOUR LIFE THAT YOU'RE
CAPTIVE TO THAT IS GIVING
YOU PAIN IN YOUR LIFE, THAT
IS KEEPING YOU FROM BECOMING
ALL OF YOU WOULD LIKE TO BE,
ALL THAT YOU KNOW YOU'RE
SUPPOSED TO BE.
THAT KEEPS YOU EVEN FROM
KNOWING WHAT IT IS LIKE TO
HAVE A DEEP RELATIONSHIP
WITH GOD, YOUR FATHER.
YOU KNOW YOU CAN BEGIN IT
NOW.
IT IS A CHOICE, A DECISION
AWAY.
ASK GOD.
DO WHAT AMY DID.
JUST SAY, GOD, I AM TIRED.
I'VE COME TO THE END OF
MYSELF, AND I CHOOSE YOU
TODAY.
I CHOOSE YOU.
COME INTO MY LIFE.
CHANGE ME.
TEACH ME YOUR WAYS.
I'M WILLING TO CHANGE.
I'M WILLING TO BE THE
DIFFERENT.
I'M WILLING TO HEAR YOUR
VOICE AND TO WALK AWAY FROM
ALL THAT I'VE TAKEN IN PLACE
OF YOU INTO MY LIFE.
I SURRENDER IT ALL.
GOD WILL RESPOND.
HE LOVES YOU WITH AN
EVERLASTING LOVE.
IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO PRAY
WITH SOMEONE, THERE IS A
NUMBER COMING UP ON YOUR
SCREEN.
IT IS TOLL-FREE,
1-800-759-0700.
THE FRIEND WHO ANSWERS ON
THE OTHER END OF THE LINE IS
SOMEONE WHO MADE THAT SAME
COMMITMENT WE'RE TALKING
ABOUT.
CALL NOW.
PAT?
Pat: THANKS, TERRY.
AND THANKS FOR JOINING US ON
TODAY'S "700 CLUB."
WE LEAVE YOU WITH THIS POWER
MINUTE, TAKEN FROM ISAIAH
40: "THOSE WHO WAIT ON THE
LORD SHALL RENEW THEIR
STRENGTH.
THEY SHALL MOUNT UP WITH
WINGS, LIKE EAGLES.
THEY SHALL RUN AND NOT BE
WEARY.
THEY SHALL WALK AND NOT
FAINT."
WELL, THAT'S ALL OF THE TIME
WE'VE GOT FOR TODAY'S SHOW.
TOMORROW WE'VE GOT A JANITOR
WHO ONCE CLEANED THE HALLS
AND NOW IS THE PRINCIPAL,
CLEANING UP THE SCHOOL.
YOU DON'T WANT TO MISS IT.
FOR TERRY AND WENDY AND ALL
OF US, THIS IS PAT
ROBERTSON, AND WE'LL SEE YOU
TOMORROW ON THE NEXT "700
CLUB."
GOD BLESS YOU.