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David: THIS WEEK ON
"THE BRODY FILE," HEY, LOOK
WHO WE FOUND, IT'S NEW
JERSEY GOVERNOR CHRIS
CHRISTIE.
WE SIT DOWN WITH THE
POSSIBLE PRESIDENTIAL
CANDIDATE.
SOME CALL HIM A MODERATE,
BUT CONSERVATIVES LOVED HIM
AT THIS YEAR'S C-PAC
CONFERENCE.
WE HAVE A LOT IN COMMON,
IN TERMS OF WHAT MY RECORD
HAS BEEN.
I THOUGHT THE RECEPTION WAS
GREAT.
David: ALSO, CBS
REPORTER CHERYL ATKINSON
LEAVES THE NETWORK.
FIERY MINDS WANT TO KNOW IF
IT WAS BECAUSE OF HER RABID
INTEREST IN THE BENGHAZI
STORY.
WE OPEN UP "THE BRODY FILE"
VIDEO VAULT FOR THE
ANSWERS.
"THE BRODY FILE" ON ACROSS
AMERICA.
LET'S GO.
David: AND WELCOME,
EVERYBODY, TO ANOTHER
EDITION OF "THE BRODY
FILE."
WE'RE HERE IN D.C.
DID YOU KNOW BOLOGNA IS THE
OFFICIAL FOOD OF WASHINGTON,
D.C.
IT IS IN FULL SUPPLY.
ALL RIGHT.
WE BEGIN THIS WEEK WITH
GOVERNOR CHRIS CHRISTIE.
HE MAY RUN FOR PRESIDENT,
BUT IS HE CONSERVATIVE
ENOUGH FOR THE BASE OF THE
REPUBLICAN PARTY?
WELL, HE SPOKE AT THE
CONSERVATIVE C-PAC
CONFERENCE, AND HE ACTUALLY
GOT A PRETTY GOOD
RECEPTION.
CHECK OUT "THE BRODY FILE"
APPLAUSE METER.
[APPLAUSE]
ALL RIGHT, ALL RIGHT.
David: WELL, RIGHT
AFTER CHRISTIE'S SPEECH, WE
WENT INTO STALKING MODE AND
WE FOUND THE GORN FOR AN
GOVERNOR FOR AN INTERVIEW.
HE COULD BE THE FRONT-RUNNER
FOR THE G.O.P. IF HE RUNS
FOR PRESIDENT.
BUT HE HAS SOME CONVINCING
TO DO.
BUT THERE ARE SKEPTICS SINCE
HE GAVE PRESIDENT OBAMA SOME
ABUNDANT LOVE DURING
SUPERSTORM SANDY LAST YEAR.
HERE IS THE GOVERNOR.
YOU JUST SAID THAT THE MEDIA
LOVES TO DEFINE US
CONSERVATIVES.
SO TELL ME A LITTLE ABOUT --
MAYBE THEY'VE BEEN TRYING TO
DEFINE YOU.
YOU HAVE THIS STRONG
CONSERVATIVE RECORD, AND YET
IT IS THE MODERATE CHRIS
CHRISTIE.
WHEN THEY SEE YOU GET
BLUE VOTES, W THEY SAY WE
CAN'T POSSIBLY BE
CONSERVATIVE.
LOOK AT THE RECORD, WE HAVE
CUT SPENDING AND TAXES.
REFORMED PENSIONS AND
BENEFITS.
THESE ARE ALL THINGS THAT
CONSERVATIVES STAND FOR,
WHILE AT THE SAME TIME BEING
THE FIRST PRO-LIFE GOVERNOR
SINCE ROE VS. WADE.
THIS IS THE MEDIA CONTINUING
TO TRY TO PUT FORWARD A
MYTH.
WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE TO
TALK ABOUT OUR RECORD AND
LET PEOPLE KNOW THAT IF
CONSERVATIVES TALK ABOUT
WHAT WE'RE FOR, PEOPLE
LISTEN AND THEY VOTE FOR
US.
WHEN WE TALK ABOUT WHAT
WE'RE AGAINST, THEY BLOCK US
OUT.
David: TELL ME A
LITTLE ABOUT WHAT YOU FELT
LIKE ON SAG STAGE OUT THERE
IN FRONT OF THE C-PAC
CROWD.
WHAT WAS THAT LIKE?
IT WAS GREAT.
I SPOKE IN CHICAGO AT C-PAC
IN 2012, AND GOT A WONDERFUL
RECEPTION.
THESE ARE REALLY STRONG,
COMMITTED FOLKS, WHO BELIEVE
THAT OUR COUNTRY AND OUR
STATE INDIVIDUALLY NEEDS TO
GO IN A DIFFERENT DIRECTION,
AND I AGREE.
WE HAVE A LOT IN COMMON IN
TERMS OF WHAT MY RECORD HAS
BEEN.
I FELT THE RECEPTION WAS
GREAT AND I LOOK FORWARD TO
COMING BACK NEXT YEAR IF I'M
INVITED.
David: PRESIDENT
OBAMA, YOU HAD SOME HARSH
WORDS OUT THERE FOR HIM.
WHAT IS THE GRADE FOR THIS
GUY?
IS IT A "D"?
I WOULD SAY IT IS
INCOMPLETE BECAUSE A GRADE
MEANS YOU'VE ACCOMPLISHED
SOMETHING THAT YOU CAN THEN
GRADE.
AND HE HASN'T.
MY BIGGEST PROBLEM WITH THE
PRESIDENT HAS ALWAYS BEEN,
FROM THE BEGINNING TO TODAY,
HE IS AWOL ON THE ISSUE OF
LEADERSHIP.
THIS IS SOMEONE WHO AVOIDS
TAKING CHARGE OF A
SITUATION.
FOR ME, THAT'S THE EXACT
OPPOSITE OF THE PERSONALITY
YOU NEED TO HAVE IF YOU'RE
GOING TO BE AN EFFECTIVE
PRESIDENT.
YOU DON'T HAVE TO DABBLE IN
EVERY ISSUE, BUT YOU HAVE TO
SAY HERE IS WHERE I STAND
AND I'M WILLING TO FIGHT ON
THESE ISSUES, AND DRAG
PEOPLE IN TO BRING THEM
TOGETHER.
THIS PRESIDENT DOES NONE OF
THAT.
I WOULD GIVE HIM A REALLY
BAD INCOMPLETE BECAUSE YOU
CAN'T GIVE SOMEBODY A GRADE
WHEN THEY'VE DONE NOTHING.
David: YOU'RE A
STRAIGHT SHOOTER.
2013 ELECTIONS, AND MANY THE
REPUBLICANS DO WELL, AND
THEN ALL OF A SUDDEN THEY
BLOW IT, 2012 AND BEYOND.
SO HOW DO THEY GET TO A
PLACE WHERE THEY CANNOT JUST
DO WELL IN MID-TERMS, BUT
REALLY CAPTURE THAT WHITE
HOUSE?
WE HAVE TO SAY WHAT WE'RE
FOR.
OUR IDEAS ARE BETTER THAN
THEIR IDEAS.
IF WE PUT THEM FORWARD IN AN
UNAPOLOGETIC STRAIGHT WAY,
IT WILL BE BETTER.
WE'VE GOT TO GO INTO LATINO
NEIGHBORHOODS.
WE'VE GOT TO GO INTO
AFRICAN-AMERICAN
NEIGHBORHOODS.
MY PERCENTAGE OF VOTE FROM
THE AFRICAN-AMERICAN
COMMUNITY WENT FROM 7% IN
2009 TO 21% IN 2013.
I HAD A WOMAN WHO CAME UP TO
ME IN ORANGE TO SAY HELLO, A
PREDOMINANTLY
AFRICAN-AMERICAN CITY, AND A
REPORTER ASKED HER
AFTERWARDS, WHO ARE YOU
VOTING FOR?
AND SHE SAID I'M VOTING FOR
THE GOVERNOR.
SHE SAID HE WAS THE FIRST
REPUBLICAN WALK DOWN OUR
STREETS IN MY WHOLE LIFE.
WE NEED TO SHOW UP AND BE
RESPECTFUL AND LISTEN.
AND THEN WE NEED TO TALK
ABOUT OUR IDEAS AND MAKE
THEIR LIVES BETTER.
WE CANNOT WIN NATIONAL
ELECTIONS WITHOUT GETTING A
GREATER PERCENTAGE OF THE
VOTE FROM INDEPENDENTS, FROM
HIS NICK HISPANICS, AND
AFRICAN-AMERICANS.
OUR IDEAS WILL BE ACCEPTED
BY THOSE FOLKS, BUT WE NEED
TO GO THERE AND CAMPAIGN AND
LISTEN.
David: LOOKING INTO
THE FUTURE IN TERMS OF 2016,
WHERE ARE YOU AT?
AND LET ME TALK ABOUT
SOMETHING ELSE ABOUT LOOKING
INTO THE FUTURE, THE METS.
HOW ARE THEY GOING TO DO
THIS YEAR WITHOUT MATT
HARVEY.
FIRST THE 2016 QUESTION,
THEN THE MORE IMPORTANT
QUESTION, THE MET QUESTION.
2016 IS ONLY GOING TO BE
POSSIBLE FOR ANYBODY IF WE
DO WELL IN 2014.
WE HAVE TO RE-ELECT
REPUBLICAN GOVERNORS.
WE HAVE GOT TO TAKE BACK THE
UNITED STATES SENATE AND
KEEP THE HOUSE, AND CREATE A
FOUNDATION FOR A STRONG
NATIONAL CAMPAIGN IN 2016.
I THINK THERE ARE LOTS OF
GOOD PEOPLE OUT THERE WHO
COULD RUN AND COULD BE GOOD
CANDIDATES, BUT THEY'RE NOT
GOING TO BE GOOD CANDIDATES
IF WE DON'T GET THE JOB DONE
IN 2014.
ON THE METS -- I'M A HUGE
FAN.
I'VE BEEN A SEASON
TICKETHOLDER FOR A DECADE.
I'LL TELL YOU WE'LL BE
BETTER THIS YEAR, BUT I
DON'T THINK WE'RE QUITE
THERE.
I THINK 2015 IS PROBABLY OUR
YEAR.
David: THAT IS CHRIS
CHRISTIE ON "THE BRODY
FILE."
CHRISTIE DID OKAY IN THE
C-PAC PRESIDENTIAL POLE, BUT
WHEN CONSERVATIVES WERE
ASKED, SENATOR RAND PAUL WAS
THE RUN-AWAY WINNER.
RAND PAUL WINS 31%.
TED CRUZ, A DISTANT SECOND,
11%, AND DR. BEN CARSEN, 9%,
AND CHRISTIE AT 8°.
AND SCOTT WALKER, AND RICK
SANTORUM BOTH TYING FOR 5
FINANCIAL PLACE.
AND PAUL RYAN AND RICK PERRY
WERE AT 3%.
AND ROUNDING OUT THE BECOME
WAS MIKE HUCKABEE.
IMAGINE A TIME WHEN THE
WHITE HOUSE IS ONCE AGAIN
OCCUPIED BY A FRIEND OF
LIBERTY.
[APPLAUSE]
YOU MAY THINK I'M TALKING
ABOUT ELECTING REPUBLICANS.
I'M NOT.
I'M TALKING ABOUT ELECTING
LOVERS OF LIBERTY.
THERE IS A GREAT, A GREAT
AND TUMULTUOUS BATTLE UNDER
WAY FOR THE FUTURE NOT OF
THE REPUBLICAN PARTY BUT THE
FUTURE OF THE ENTIRE
COUNTRY.
David: AND THEN THERE
IS THE MAMA GRIZZLY, SARAH
PALIN.
SHE IS PROBABLY NOT RUNNING
FOR PRESIDENT, NEWS FLASH,
BUT SHE SURE KNOWS HOW TO
KEEP THE CROWD ENTERTAINED.
I DO NOT LIKE THIS UNCLE
SAM.
I DO NOT LIKE THIS HEALTH
CARE SCAM.
I DO NOT LIKE THIS SPYING
MAN.
I DO NOT LIKE, OH, YES, WE
CAN.
David: SARAH PALIN,
NEVER A DULL MOMENT.
COMING UP NEXT, PRESIDENT
OBAMA AND FATHERHOOD.
HOW THE OBAMA ADMINISTRATION
IS PUSHING A NEW INITIATIVE
THAT COULD HELP TURN AROUND
FAMILIES.
BACK IN A MOMENT.
David: AND WELCOME
BACK TO "LITTLE HOUSE ON THE
PRAIRIE."
ACTUALLY, IT IS "THE BRODY
FILE."
PRESIDENT OBAMA TAKES PLENTY
OF SHOTS FROM CONSERVATIVES,
BUT, YOU KNOW, CAN WE GIVE
THIS PRESIDENT A LITTLE BIT
OF CREDIT?
HIS ADMINISTRATION IS TRYING
TO USE THE BULLY PULPIT OF
THE PRESIDENCY TO BRING
ATTENTION AND AWARENESS TO
FATHERLESS HOMES, ESPECIALLY
IN THE MINORITY
COMMUNITIES.
YOU KNOW WHO IS ON TOP OF
THIS STORY?
THAT'S RIGHT, GET READY TO
DANCE.
JENNY AND THE "B" BLOCK.
* YOU GO, GIRL
David: THIS WEEK JENNY
TAKES A CLOSER LOOK AT THE
PRESIDENT'S INITIATIVE,
CALLED "MY BROTHER'S
KEEPER."
Reporter: WHEN CHICAGO
HIGH SCHOOL STUDENT
CHRISTIAN CHAMPAGNE LEARNED
ABOUT A PROGRAM CALLED "BAM"
A NAME THAT STANDS FOR
BIMING BIM BECOMING A MAN,
HE TRIED IT BECAUSE IT GOT
HIM OUT OF GEOGRAPHY CLASS.
A YEAR AGO I WAS CLOSED
OFF.
I DIDN'T CARE ABOUT PEOPLE.
I CARED ABOUT MYSELF.
NOW I CAN HAVE A
CONVERSATION, AND IT GIVES
ME CONFIDENCE AND A BOOST TO
MY SELF-ESTEEM AND HELPED ME
OPEN UP ABOUT WHAT IS GOING
ON IN MY LIFE AND HOW I FEEL
THAT DAY.
Reporter: LIKE TOO MANY
MEN OF COLOR, CHAMPAGNE'S
FATHER IS RARELY AROUND, AND
BOYS WITHOUT DADS ARE MUCH
MORE LIKELY TO BE POOR AND
FAIL AT SCHOOL.
YOUR DAD IS, LIKE, THE
NUMBER ONE GOAL OF THAT
STANDARD OF HOW TO BE A MAN
AND HOW TO HAVE HANDLE YOUR
BUSINESS LIKE A MAN.
[APPLAUSE]
Reporter: THURSDAY HE
INTRODUCED ANOTHER MAN WHO
GREW UP WITHOUT HIS DAD, THE
PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED
STATES.
President Obama: I CAN
SEE MYSELF IN THESE YOUNG
MEN.
AND THE ONLY DIFFERENCE IS I
GREW UP IN AN ENVIRONMENT
THAT WAS A LITTLE BIT MORE
FORGIVING.
SO WHEN I MADE A MISTAKE,
THE CONSEQUENCES WERE NOT AS
SEVERE.
Reporter: SO THE
PRESIDENT IS LAUNCHING "MY
BROTHER'S KEEPER," A NEW
INITIATIVE TO ENCOURAGE MORE
PROGRAMS LIKE "BAM" THAT
KEEP MINORITY MEN ON TRACK,
BY HELPING THEM MATURE
EMOTIONALLY AND SET
WORTHWHILE GOALS.
INSTEAD OF TAX DOLLARS,
PRIVATE FOUNDATIONS ARE
INVESTING HUNDREDS OF
MILLIONS OF DOLLARS TO FIND
OUT WHICH STRATEGIES WORK.
DESPITE BEING THE NATION'S
FIRST AFRICAN-AMERICAN
PRESIDENT, PRESIDENT OBAMA
RARELY TARGETS PROGRAMS TO
SPECIFIC GROUPS.
BUT IN THIS CASE, HE SAYS
UNLOCKING THE FULL POTENTIAL
OF BLACK AND LATINO MEN WILL
EVENTUALLY HELP ALL PEOPLE.
IN THIS COUNTRY, WE HAVE
A RESPONSIBILITY TO HELP
EACH OTHER.
Reporter: FOR YOUNG MEN
LIKE CHAMPAGNE AND KERON
TURNER, HAVING A MAN,
ESPECIALLY THE PRESIDENT,
TAKE AN INTEREST IN THEIR
LIVES MEANS EVERYTHING.
HE WANTS US TO LIVE UP TO
OUR FULL POTENTIAL, AND HE
KNOWS WE CAN DO BETTER.
HE WANTS US TO STRIVE FOR
MORE.
Reporter: FOR "THE
BRODY FILE," I'M JENNY AND
THE "B" BLOCK AT THE WHITE
HOUSE.
David: HOPEFULLY SOME
LIVES WILL CHANGE BECAUSE OF
THIS PROGRAM.
ALL RIGHT, WE'RE BACK IN A
MOMENT WITH AN EVANGELICAL
FLASH MOB.
ATHEISTS, RUN FOR YOUR
LIVES.
BACK IN A MOMENT.
David: AND WELCOME
BACK TO "THE BRODY FILE."
POLITICS AND FAITH.
WHERE ELSE CAN YOU FIND A
SHOW THAT MIXES THOSE TWO.
IT IS TIME TO CHECK IN WITH
TRACY WINBORN.
AROUND HERE, WE LIKE TO CALL
HER "THE CHURCH LADY."
*
* MY SWEET LORD
DAVID, PEOPLE JUST CAN'T
GET ENOUGH OF "DUCK DYNASTY"
THESE DAYS.
YOU HEAR THE NAME PHIL
ROBERTSON A LOT.
HE HAS BEEN IN THE NEWS FOR
HIS SUPPORT OF TRADITIONAL
MARRIAGE.
HOW WOULD YOU LIKE TO BE
BAPTIZED BY HIM.
THIS GUY, BRIAN RICHARDS, HE
IS A HUGE "DUCK DYNASTY"
FAN.
HE DROVE 20 HOURS JUST TO BE
BAPTIZED BY ROBERTSON.
HE MADE THE 1300-MILE
JOURNEY FROM HIS HOME IN NEW
JERSEY TO ROBERTSON'S CHURCH
IN LOUISIANA.
I BAPTIZE YOU IN THE NAME
OF JESUS.
[APPLAUSE]
I WON WONDER IF BAPTISMS
BY ROBERTSON ARE OPEN TO
EVERYONE.
LOOK HIM UP AND GIVE IT A
SHOT.
NOW TO A STORY ABOUT THE
STICK GUYS.
THESE TWO GUYS HAVE BEEN
BEST FRIENDS SINCE HIGH
SCHOOL.
THEY WERE ALWAYS THE WISE
GUYS IN CLASS.
YOU KNOW THE TYPE.
ANYWAY, NOW THEY TEACH GOD'S
WORD THROUGH COMEDY.
THEY HAVE PUT TOGETHER A
LITTLE PIECE CALLED "THE
SKIN ME ON FASTING."
I THINK FASTING IS
AWESOME.
WHERE ELSE CAN YOU COMBINE
SPIRITUALITY AND DIETING ALL
IN THE SAME WAY.
I MEAN, I FAST -- THAT'S A
TOTAL LIE.
I DON'T FAST AT ALL.
NOW, DAVID, HERE IS A
STORY I PICKED JUST FOR
YOU.
IT IS ABOUT A SURPRISE
GOSPEL FLASH MOB IN
BIRMINGHAM, ALABAMA.
HEZEKIAH WALKER LED A FLASH
MOB WITH HIS HIT SONG "EVERY
PRAISE IS TO OUR GOD."
LET ME HEAR THE WORDS!
WE'RE ALL ABOUT PRAISING
GOD!
DAVID, I WOULD ACTUALLY
LIKE TO SEE "THE BRODY FILE"
IN A FLASH MOB SOME DAY.
WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO WORK
ON THAT.
THAT'S ALL FOR THE CHURCH
LADY, BACK TO YOU.
David: TRACY, WE WILL
TRY AN EFFORT, AN
EVANGELICAL FLASH MOB.
THAT'S DANGEROUS.
COMING UP, THE REPORTER
WHO'S STORIES ARE KNOWN FOR
BEING CRITICAL OF PRESIDENT
OBAMA.
WHY SHE IS RESIGNING FROM
CBS.
BACK IN A MOMENT.
David: AND WELCOME
BACK TO "THE BRODY FILE."
WELL, LOOK, CONSERVATIVES
CALL HER COURAGEOUS,
PASSIONATE, A TRUE
CHAMPION.
AND WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT
MILEY CYRUS.
NO, THEY ARE HEAPING THOSE
ACCOLADES ON CBS REPORTER
CHERYL ATKINSON.
SHE IS NOW FORMER CBS
REPORTER CHERYL ATKINSON
BECAUSE SHE RESIGNED THIS
WEEK AFTER BEING UNABLE TO
COME TO A CONTRACT AGREEMENT
WITH THE NETWORK.
SHE HAS GROWN FRUSTRATED
WITH CBS BECAUSE SHE CAN'T
GET MANY OF HER EXPLOSIVE
STORIES ON WHAT HAPPENED IN
BENGHAZI ON THE AIR.
THOSE STORIES HAVE BEEN
CRITICAL OF THE OBAMA
ADMINISTRATION.
WELL, LOOK, WE TALKED TO
ATKINSON ABOUT ALL OF THIS A
FEW MONTHS AGO.
SHE WAS VERY FRUSTRATED BACK
THEN WITH NOT BEING ABLE TO
GET SOME OF THESE BENGHAZI
STORIES ON THE AIR.
AS WE DO FROM TIME TO TIME,
LET'S DIP INTO "THE BRODY
FILE" VIDEO VAULT AND SEARCH
FOR THAT CHERYL ATKINSON
INTERVIEW.
LOOK, THE CONSERVATIVES --
YOU KNOW WHAT IS GOING ON,
AND THEY'RE GIVING YOU
AWARDS AND THEY LOVE YOU.
IT IS INTERESTING.
IT'S LIKE THEY'RE READY TO
PUT YOU, LIKE, AT A HERITAGE
FOUNDATION FELLOW OR YOU'RE
GOING TO SPEAK AT C-PAC, NOT
THAT YOU ARE.
WHAT HAS BEEN YOUR REACTION
TO ALL OF THE ATTENTION THAT
YOU'VE RECEIVED FROM THESE
CONSERVATIVE GROUPS.
IT IS KIND OF SOMEWHAT OF AN
AWKWARD SATIO SITUATION FOR
YOU.
I DON'T MIND IT AT ALL.
I APPRECIATE IT.
MAYBE NOT EVERYTHING IS
ENTIRELY TRUE, BUT I
APPRECIATE THERE WERE PEOPLE
COVERING THE REPORTING I
DO.
I STILL HAVE CLIPS FROM THE
TIME THE MEDIA CRITICS ON
THE CONSERVATIVE SIDE, AT
THAT POINT WHEN I WAS DOING
STORIES, BECAUSE WE HAD A
REPUBLICAN ADMINISTRATION,
THE STORIES WERE PERCEIVED,
WHEN I DO WATCHDOG-TYPE
THINGS AS HARMFUL OR
CRITICAL OF THE REPUBLICAN
ADMINISTRATION.
SO IT WAS PRESUMED I WAS
LIBERAL.
AND ACTUALLY, AS I LIKE TO
SAY, I'M POLITICALLY
AGNOSTIC.
IF YOU CONCLUDE BECAUSE I
INVESTIGATE A STORY AND IT
HAPPENS TO LEAD ONE WAY OR
THE OTHER AND I PERSISTENT,
IF YOU WANT TO CONCLUDE
THAT'S WHERE I STAND
POLITICALLY, YOU'RE FREE TO
DO THAT.
THAT'S NOT THE CASE,
THOUGH.
I CAME FROM A GREAT
JOURNALISM COLLEGE IN
FLORIDA, AND WE WERE
STRICTLY TRAINED HOW TO KEEP
YOUR OPINIONS OUT OF A
STORY.
AND ONE OF MY CHALLENGES IS
TO TRY TO COVER A NEWS STORY
THAT I FEEL DIFFERENTLY
ABOUT, BUT I'M ABLE TO
PRESENT IT IN A CONVINCING
AND FAIR WAY.
AND NOBODY IS ABLE TO -- IF
THEY GUESS HOW I FEEL, THEY
MIGHT BE WRONG OR THEY MIGHT
BE RIGHT.
David: I UNDERSTAND
YOU'RE NOT IN THE BUSINESS
OF CRITICIZING YOUR
COLLEAGUES.
I KNOW THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA
IS PICKING UP BENGHAZI IN A
BIG-TIME WAY.
BUT YOU WERE ON THE
FOREFRONT OF THIS EARLY ON.
DO YOU BELIEVE THAT THE
MEDIA OVERALL AT LARGE HAS
MISSED THE BOAT OR MISSED
THE BOAT TO BEGIN WITH
INITIALLY ON THIS?
WELL, THERE HAVE BEEN
MEDIA COVERING IT.
IT IS NOT AS THOUGH I'M
COMPLETELY BY MYSELF.
BUT I DO THINK THIS -- I'VE
OBSERVED THIS WITH MANY
STORIES OVER THE YEARS AND
DIFFERENT ADMINISTRATIONS.
THE MEDIA IS NOT ALWAYS
CONSISTENT IN THE VIGOR THAT
THEY USE TO PURSUE A GIVEN
TOPIC.
AND I NEVER QUITE
UNDERSTAND, YOU KNOW, WHY
THE DIFFERENCE.
BECAUSE I THINK WHEN
SOMETHING IS IMPORTANT WHEN
ONE ADMINISTRATION IS IN
OFFICE, THEN IT SHOULD BE
TREATED EQUAL WHEN ANOTHER
ADMINISTRATION IS IN
OFFICE.
I DON'T SEE THAT AS ALWAYS
THE CASE.
I THINK THE MEDIA DID NOT
USE THE OPPORTUNITY IN THE
WEEKS AND MONTHS AFTER
BENGHAZI TO BE AS PERSISTENT
AND AS POINTED AS THEY
SHOULD HAVE CONSIDERING THE
IMPORTANCE OF THE ISSUE IN
MY VIEW.
AFTER INDEPENDENTLY LOOKING
AT THE FACTS, I THINK YOU
CAN'T WALK AWAY AND CONCLUDE
ANYTHING OTHER THAN IT IS AN
EXTREMELY IMPORTANT STORY
WITH MANY UNANSWERED
QUESTIONS AND
CONTRADICTIONS.
I THINK SOME IN THE MEDIA
WERE NOT AS CURIOUS THAT I
THINK NATURALLY JOURNALISTS
OUGHT TO BE.
LET ME ASK YOU A
RELATIVELY SENSITIVE
QUESTION, BUT CBS AND HOW
THEY HAVE SEEN YOU COVER
THIS STORY, HAS THERE BE
SOME PUSHBACK FROM CBS?
AND IF SO, WHAT FORM IS IT
MANIFESTED IN?
NOT REALLY.
I WOULD SAY TWO THINGS ABOUT
THAT.
I HAVE RECEIVED A LOT OF
ENCOURAGEMENT FROM THE TOP
EXECUTIVES, WHO I CONSIDER
JEFF FAGER, OUR C.E.O., AND
DAVID RHODES, WHO IS OUR
PRESIDENT.
THEY HAVE CERTAINLY NEVER
SAID ANYTHING TO TRY TO
INTERFERE WITH THE
COVERAGE.
THEY COMPLIMENTED A LOT OF
MY WORK AND STRONGLY
SUPPORTED IT.
ON THE OTHER HAND, EVER
STORY YOU PRESENT AS A
REPORTER, HAS TO BE BOUGHT
BY A BROADCAST, MEANING NOT
PURCHASED FOR MONEY, BUT YOU
HAVE TO GET THEM INTERESTED
IN IT.
MAYBE THE EVENING NEWS WANTS
ONE STORY AND THE MORNING
NEWS WANTS ANOTHER STORY.
AND THERE HASN'T BEEN AN
APPETITE FOR THE STORIES I
DID ON BENGHAZI.
SO I PUBLISHED STORIES
ONLINE AND DONE A LOT OF MY
REPORTING THERE.
UNTIL RECENTLY, THERE HAS
BEEN, AS YOU SAID -- THERE
HASN'T BEEN MUCH OF A MARKET
ON AIR.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT ALL OF THE
DECISION-MAKING INVOLVES,
EXEMPT ON A GIVEN DAY THERE
IS A FINITE AMOUNT OF TIME
TO PUT STORIES ON.
David: HAS THAT BEEN A
FRUSTRATION FOR YOU, TO NOT
BE ABLE TO GET THESE STORIES
OUT IN DIFFERENT VENUES?
EVERYBODY WANTS THEIR
STORIES ON AS MUCH AS
POSSIBLE.
THIS IS NOT THE FIRST OR THE
LAST STORY THAT I'LL BE
DOING THAT I DIFFER WITH
SOME OF MY COLLEAGUES TO ITS
IMPORTANCE AND HOW MUCH
PROMINENCE IT SHOULD GET.
THAT'S ONE OF THE STORIES OF
MY LIFE.
I'M ALWAYS PUSHING STORIES
OFF THE BEATEN PATH OF WHAT
EVERYBODY ELSE WANTS TO DO.
I UNDERSTAND MAYBE THAT'S
WHY I'M INTERESTED IN THEM.
I FIGHT THOSE BATTLES.
I KIND OF ENJOY THE FIGHT.
I'M MORE SUCCESSFUL --
SUCCESSFUL MORE OFTEN THAN
NOT, BUT I'M CERTAINLY NOT
ALWAYS SUCCESSFUL IN PUSHING
WHAT I THINK IS AN IMPORTANT
STORY.
David: A VIDEO VAULT
EXCLUSIVE WITH CHERYL AT
ATKINSON.
SHE IS CURRENTLY AT WORK ON
BOOK TENTATIVELY CALLED
"STONEWALLED, ONE REPORTERS
FIGHT FOR TRUTH IN
WASHINGTON."
YOU THINK THAT'S GOING TO BE
A HIT WITH CONSERVATIVES?
MARK IT DOWN.
BACK IN A MOMENT WITH AN
OY-VEY MOMENT OF THE WEEK
THAT IS GOING TO MAKE YOU
FEEL DOWN AND OUT.
David: AND WELCOME
BACK TO THE SHOW,
EVERYBODY.
DO YOU EVER GET THAT SINKING
FEELING, JUST SOMETHING IS
NOT EXACTLY RIGHT?
WE SAW THAT TRANSPIRE ON
LIVE TELEVISION, AND IT'S
THIS WEEK'S OY-VEY MOMENT OF
THE WEEK.
*
[HAVA NAGILA]
David: ALL RIGHT, WE
WANT YOU TO WATCH THIS
REPORTER FROM THE B.B.C. IN
ENGLAND.
THIS IS WHAT HAPPENS WHEN
CAMERAS AREN'T CONTROLLED BY
PEOPLE, BUT RATHER BY
COMPUTERS.
HAVE A LOOK.
HE SUSPENDED SPENDING
PUBLIC MONEY AND HE WOULD
LIKE TO DRAW A LINE ON THIS
AND MOVE ON.
IN A STATEMENT, THE PANEL
SAID IT WELCOMED THE
APOLOGY, BUT SAID SOME OF
THE FINANCIAL COSTS COULD
HAVE BEEN AVOIDED.
CAROLINE, THANK YOU, I
THINK WE HAD A PROBLEM WITH
OUR CAMERA AT THE END.
David: THERE SHE GOES,
INTO THE LIBERAL MAINSTREAM
MEDIA ABYSS.
JUST KIDDING.
I'M SURE SHE IS A GOOD
PERSON.
THE GOOD NEWS IS SOMETHING
LIKE THAT JUST NEVER HAPPENS
AROUND HERE, I THINK.
THAT DOES IT UNTIL NEXT
TIME.
GOD BLESS.
HAVE A GREAT WEEK.