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The Brody File: Chris Christie and the GOP - March 20, 2014

This week on The Brody File, one-on-one with New Jersey Governor Chris Christie. Is he conservative enough for the GOP base if he runs for president? Plus, Jenny in the B Block looks at President Obama’s new outreach program to minority ... Read Transcript


David: THIS WEEK ON

"THE BRODY FILE," HEY, LOOK

WHO WE FOUND, IT'S NEW

JERSEY GOVERNOR CHRIS

CHRISTIE.

WE SIT DOWN WITH THE

POSSIBLE PRESIDENTIAL

CANDIDATE.

SOME CALL HIM A MODERATE,

BUT CONSERVATIVES LOVED HIM

AT THIS YEAR'S C-PAC

CONFERENCE.

WE HAVE A LOT IN COMMON,

IN TERMS OF WHAT MY RECORD

HAS BEEN.

I THOUGHT THE RECEPTION WAS

GREAT.

David: ALSO, CBS

REPORTER CHERYL ATKINSON

LEAVES THE NETWORK.

FIERY MINDS WANT TO KNOW IF

IT WAS BECAUSE OF HER RABID

INTEREST IN THE BENGHAZI

STORY.

WE OPEN UP "THE BRODY FILE"

VIDEO VAULT FOR THE

ANSWERS.

"THE BRODY FILE" ON ACROSS

AMERICA.

LET'S GO.

David: AND WELCOME,

EVERYBODY, TO ANOTHER

EDITION OF "THE BRODY

FILE."

WE'RE HERE IN D.C.

DID YOU KNOW BOLOGNA IS THE

OFFICIAL FOOD OF WASHINGTON,

D.C.

IT IS IN FULL SUPPLY.

ALL RIGHT.

WE BEGIN THIS WEEK WITH

GOVERNOR CHRIS CHRISTIE.

HE MAY RUN FOR PRESIDENT,

BUT IS HE CONSERVATIVE

ENOUGH FOR THE BASE OF THE

REPUBLICAN PARTY?

WELL, HE SPOKE AT THE

CONSERVATIVE C-PAC

CONFERENCE, AND HE ACTUALLY

GOT A PRETTY GOOD

RECEPTION.

CHECK OUT "THE BRODY FILE"

APPLAUSE METER.

[APPLAUSE]

ALL RIGHT, ALL RIGHT.

David: WELL, RIGHT

AFTER CHRISTIE'S SPEECH, WE

WENT INTO STALKING MODE AND

WE FOUND THE GORN FOR AN

GOVERNOR FOR AN INTERVIEW.

HE COULD BE THE FRONT-RUNNER

FOR THE G.O.P. IF HE RUNS

FOR PRESIDENT.

BUT HE HAS SOME CONVINCING

TO DO.

BUT THERE ARE SKEPTICS SINCE

HE GAVE PRESIDENT OBAMA SOME

ABUNDANT LOVE DURING

SUPERSTORM SANDY LAST YEAR.

HERE IS THE GOVERNOR.

YOU JUST SAID THAT THE MEDIA

LOVES TO DEFINE US

CONSERVATIVES.

SO TELL ME A LITTLE ABOUT --

MAYBE THEY'VE BEEN TRYING TO

DEFINE YOU.

YOU HAVE THIS STRONG

CONSERVATIVE RECORD, AND YET

IT IS THE MODERATE CHRIS

CHRISTIE.

WHEN THEY SEE YOU GET

BLUE VOTES, W THEY SAY WE

CAN'T POSSIBLY BE

CONSERVATIVE.

LOOK AT THE RECORD, WE HAVE

CUT SPENDING AND TAXES.

REFORMED PENSIONS AND

BENEFITS.

THESE ARE ALL THINGS THAT

CONSERVATIVES STAND FOR,

WHILE AT THE SAME TIME BEING

THE FIRST PRO-LIFE GOVERNOR

SINCE ROE VS. WADE.

THIS IS THE MEDIA CONTINUING

TO TRY TO PUT FORWARD A

MYTH.

WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE TO

TALK ABOUT OUR RECORD AND

LET PEOPLE KNOW THAT IF

CONSERVATIVES TALK ABOUT

WHAT WE'RE FOR, PEOPLE

LISTEN AND THEY VOTE FOR

US.

WHEN WE TALK ABOUT WHAT

WE'RE AGAINST, THEY BLOCK US

OUT.

David: TELL ME A

LITTLE ABOUT WHAT YOU FELT

LIKE ON SAG STAGE OUT THERE

IN FRONT OF THE C-PAC

CROWD.

WHAT WAS THAT LIKE?

IT WAS GREAT.

I SPOKE IN CHICAGO AT C-PAC

IN 2012, AND GOT A WONDERFUL

RECEPTION.

THESE ARE REALLY STRONG,

COMMITTED FOLKS, WHO BELIEVE

THAT OUR COUNTRY AND OUR

STATE INDIVIDUALLY NEEDS TO

GO IN A DIFFERENT DIRECTION,

AND I AGREE.

WE HAVE A LOT IN COMMON IN

TERMS OF WHAT MY RECORD HAS

BEEN.

I FELT THE RECEPTION WAS

GREAT AND I LOOK FORWARD TO

COMING BACK NEXT YEAR IF I'M

INVITED.

David: PRESIDENT

OBAMA, YOU HAD SOME HARSH

WORDS OUT THERE FOR HIM.

WHAT IS THE GRADE FOR THIS

GUY?

IS IT A "D"?

I WOULD SAY IT IS

INCOMPLETE BECAUSE A GRADE

MEANS YOU'VE ACCOMPLISHED

SOMETHING THAT YOU CAN THEN

GRADE.

AND HE HASN'T.

MY BIGGEST PROBLEM WITH THE

PRESIDENT HAS ALWAYS BEEN,

FROM THE BEGINNING TO TODAY,

HE IS AWOL ON THE ISSUE OF

LEADERSHIP.

THIS IS SOMEONE WHO AVOIDS

TAKING CHARGE OF A

SITUATION.

FOR ME, THAT'S THE EXACT

OPPOSITE OF THE PERSONALITY

YOU NEED TO HAVE IF YOU'RE

GOING TO BE AN EFFECTIVE

PRESIDENT.

YOU DON'T HAVE TO DABBLE IN

EVERY ISSUE, BUT YOU HAVE TO

SAY HERE IS WHERE I STAND

AND I'M WILLING TO FIGHT ON

THESE ISSUES, AND DRAG

PEOPLE IN TO BRING THEM

TOGETHER.

THIS PRESIDENT DOES NONE OF

THAT.

I WOULD GIVE HIM A REALLY

BAD INCOMPLETE BECAUSE YOU

CAN'T GIVE SOMEBODY A GRADE

WHEN THEY'VE DONE NOTHING.

David: YOU'RE A

STRAIGHT SHOOTER.

2013 ELECTIONS, AND MANY THE

REPUBLICANS DO WELL, AND

THEN ALL OF A SUDDEN THEY

BLOW IT, 2012 AND BEYOND.

SO HOW DO THEY GET TO A

PLACE WHERE THEY CANNOT JUST

DO WELL IN MID-TERMS, BUT

REALLY CAPTURE THAT WHITE

HOUSE?

WE HAVE TO SAY WHAT WE'RE

FOR.

OUR IDEAS ARE BETTER THAN

THEIR IDEAS.

IF WE PUT THEM FORWARD IN AN

UNAPOLOGETIC STRAIGHT WAY,

IT WILL BE BETTER.

WE'VE GOT TO GO INTO LATINO

NEIGHBORHOODS.

WE'VE GOT TO GO INTO

AFRICAN-AMERICAN

NEIGHBORHOODS.

MY PERCENTAGE OF VOTE FROM

THE AFRICAN-AMERICAN

COMMUNITY WENT FROM 7% IN

2009 TO 21% IN 2013.

I HAD A WOMAN WHO CAME UP TO

ME IN ORANGE TO SAY HELLO, A

PREDOMINANTLY

AFRICAN-AMERICAN CITY, AND A

REPORTER ASKED HER

AFTERWARDS, WHO ARE YOU

VOTING FOR?

AND SHE SAID I'M VOTING FOR

THE GOVERNOR.

SHE SAID HE WAS THE FIRST

REPUBLICAN WALK DOWN OUR

STREETS IN MY WHOLE LIFE.

WE NEED TO SHOW UP AND BE

RESPECTFUL AND LISTEN.

AND THEN WE NEED TO TALK

ABOUT OUR IDEAS AND MAKE

THEIR LIVES BETTER.

WE CANNOT WIN NATIONAL

ELECTIONS WITHOUT GETTING A

GREATER PERCENTAGE OF THE

VOTE FROM INDEPENDENTS, FROM

HIS NICK HISPANICS, AND

AFRICAN-AMERICANS.

OUR IDEAS WILL BE ACCEPTED

BY THOSE FOLKS, BUT WE NEED

TO GO THERE AND CAMPAIGN AND

LISTEN.

David: LOOKING INTO

THE FUTURE IN TERMS OF 2016,

WHERE ARE YOU AT?

AND LET ME TALK ABOUT

SOMETHING ELSE ABOUT LOOKING

INTO THE FUTURE, THE METS.

HOW ARE THEY GOING TO DO

THIS YEAR WITHOUT MATT

HARVEY.

FIRST THE 2016 QUESTION,

THEN THE MORE IMPORTANT

QUESTION, THE MET QUESTION.

2016 IS ONLY GOING TO BE

POSSIBLE FOR ANYBODY IF WE

DO WELL IN 2014.

WE HAVE TO RE-ELECT

REPUBLICAN GOVERNORS.

WE HAVE GOT TO TAKE BACK THE

UNITED STATES SENATE AND

KEEP THE HOUSE, AND CREATE A

FOUNDATION FOR A STRONG

NATIONAL CAMPAIGN IN 2016.

I THINK THERE ARE LOTS OF

GOOD PEOPLE OUT THERE WHO

COULD RUN AND COULD BE GOOD

CANDIDATES, BUT THEY'RE NOT

GOING TO BE GOOD CANDIDATES

IF WE DON'T GET THE JOB DONE

IN 2014.

ON THE METS -- I'M A HUGE

FAN.

I'VE BEEN A SEASON

TICKETHOLDER FOR A DECADE.

I'LL TELL YOU WE'LL BE

BETTER THIS YEAR, BUT I

DON'T THINK WE'RE QUITE

THERE.

I THINK 2015 IS PROBABLY OUR

YEAR.

David: THAT IS CHRIS

CHRISTIE ON "THE BRODY

FILE."

CHRISTIE DID OKAY IN THE

C-PAC PRESIDENTIAL POLE, BUT

WHEN CONSERVATIVES WERE

ASKED, SENATOR RAND PAUL WAS

THE RUN-AWAY WINNER.

RAND PAUL WINS 31%.

TED CRUZ, A DISTANT SECOND,

11%, AND DR. BEN CARSEN, 9%,

AND CHRISTIE AT 8°.

AND SCOTT WALKER, AND RICK

SANTORUM BOTH TYING FOR 5

FINANCIAL PLACE.

AND PAUL RYAN AND RICK PERRY

WERE AT 3%.

AND ROUNDING OUT THE BECOME

WAS MIKE HUCKABEE.

IMAGINE A TIME WHEN THE

WHITE HOUSE IS ONCE AGAIN

OCCUPIED BY A FRIEND OF

LIBERTY.

[APPLAUSE]

YOU MAY THINK I'M TALKING

ABOUT ELECTING REPUBLICANS.

I'M NOT.

I'M TALKING ABOUT ELECTING

LOVERS OF LIBERTY.

THERE IS A GREAT, A GREAT

AND TUMULTUOUS BATTLE UNDER

WAY FOR THE FUTURE NOT OF

THE REPUBLICAN PARTY BUT THE

FUTURE OF THE ENTIRE

COUNTRY.

David: AND THEN THERE

IS THE MAMA GRIZZLY, SARAH

PALIN.

SHE IS PROBABLY NOT RUNNING

FOR PRESIDENT, NEWS FLASH,

BUT SHE SURE KNOWS HOW TO

KEEP THE CROWD ENTERTAINED.

I DO NOT LIKE THIS UNCLE

SAM.

I DO NOT LIKE THIS HEALTH

CARE SCAM.

I DO NOT LIKE THIS SPYING

MAN.

I DO NOT LIKE, OH, YES, WE

CAN.

David: SARAH PALIN,

NEVER A DULL MOMENT.

COMING UP NEXT, PRESIDENT

OBAMA AND FATHERHOOD.

HOW THE OBAMA ADMINISTRATION

IS PUSHING A NEW INITIATIVE

THAT COULD HELP TURN AROUND

FAMILIES.

BACK IN A MOMENT.

David: AND WELCOME

BACK TO "LITTLE HOUSE ON THE

PRAIRIE."

ACTUALLY, IT IS "THE BRODY

FILE."

PRESIDENT OBAMA TAKES PLENTY

OF SHOTS FROM CONSERVATIVES,

BUT, YOU KNOW, CAN WE GIVE

THIS PRESIDENT A LITTLE BIT

OF CREDIT?

HIS ADMINISTRATION IS TRYING

TO USE THE BULLY PULPIT OF

THE PRESIDENCY TO BRING

ATTENTION AND AWARENESS TO

FATHERLESS HOMES, ESPECIALLY

IN THE MINORITY

COMMUNITIES.

YOU KNOW WHO IS ON TOP OF

THIS STORY?

THAT'S RIGHT, GET READY TO

DANCE.

JENNY AND THE "B" BLOCK.

* YOU GO, GIRL

David: THIS WEEK JENNY

TAKES A CLOSER LOOK AT THE

PRESIDENT'S INITIATIVE,

CALLED "MY BROTHER'S

KEEPER."

Reporter: WHEN CHICAGO

HIGH SCHOOL STUDENT

CHRISTIAN CHAMPAGNE LEARNED

ABOUT A PROGRAM CALLED "BAM"

A NAME THAT STANDS FOR

BIMING BIM BECOMING A MAN,

HE TRIED IT BECAUSE IT GOT

HIM OUT OF GEOGRAPHY CLASS.

A YEAR AGO I WAS CLOSED

OFF.

I DIDN'T CARE ABOUT PEOPLE.

I CARED ABOUT MYSELF.

NOW I CAN HAVE A

CONVERSATION, AND IT GIVES

ME CONFIDENCE AND A BOOST TO

MY SELF-ESTEEM AND HELPED ME

OPEN UP ABOUT WHAT IS GOING

ON IN MY LIFE AND HOW I FEEL

THAT DAY.

Reporter: LIKE TOO MANY

MEN OF COLOR, CHAMPAGNE'S

FATHER IS RARELY AROUND, AND

BOYS WITHOUT DADS ARE MUCH

MORE LIKELY TO BE POOR AND

FAIL AT SCHOOL.

YOUR DAD IS, LIKE, THE

NUMBER ONE GOAL OF THAT

STANDARD OF HOW TO BE A MAN

AND HOW TO HAVE HANDLE YOUR

BUSINESS LIKE A MAN.

[APPLAUSE]

Reporter: THURSDAY HE

INTRODUCED ANOTHER MAN WHO

GREW UP WITHOUT HIS DAD, THE

PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED

STATES.

President Obama: I CAN

SEE MYSELF IN THESE YOUNG

MEN.

AND THE ONLY DIFFERENCE IS I

GREW UP IN AN ENVIRONMENT

THAT WAS A LITTLE BIT MORE

FORGIVING.

SO WHEN I MADE A MISTAKE,

THE CONSEQUENCES WERE NOT AS

SEVERE.

Reporter: SO THE

PRESIDENT IS LAUNCHING "MY

BROTHER'S KEEPER," A NEW

INITIATIVE TO ENCOURAGE MORE

PROGRAMS LIKE "BAM" THAT

KEEP MINORITY MEN ON TRACK,

BY HELPING THEM MATURE

EMOTIONALLY AND SET

WORTHWHILE GOALS.

INSTEAD OF TAX DOLLARS,

PRIVATE FOUNDATIONS ARE

INVESTING HUNDREDS OF

MILLIONS OF DOLLARS TO FIND

OUT WHICH STRATEGIES WORK.

DESPITE BEING THE NATION'S

FIRST AFRICAN-AMERICAN

PRESIDENT, PRESIDENT OBAMA

RARELY TARGETS PROGRAMS TO

SPECIFIC GROUPS.

BUT IN THIS CASE, HE SAYS

UNLOCKING THE FULL POTENTIAL

OF BLACK AND LATINO MEN WILL

EVENTUALLY HELP ALL PEOPLE.

IN THIS COUNTRY, WE HAVE

A RESPONSIBILITY TO HELP

EACH OTHER.

Reporter: FOR YOUNG MEN

LIKE CHAMPAGNE AND KERON

TURNER, HAVING A MAN,

ESPECIALLY THE PRESIDENT,

TAKE AN INTEREST IN THEIR

LIVES MEANS EVERYTHING.

HE WANTS US TO LIVE UP TO

OUR FULL POTENTIAL, AND HE

KNOWS WE CAN DO BETTER.

HE WANTS US TO STRIVE FOR

MORE.

Reporter: FOR "THE

BRODY FILE," I'M JENNY AND

THE "B" BLOCK AT THE WHITE

HOUSE.

David: HOPEFULLY SOME

LIVES WILL CHANGE BECAUSE OF

THIS PROGRAM.

ALL RIGHT, WE'RE BACK IN A

MOMENT WITH AN EVANGELICAL

FLASH MOB.

ATHEISTS, RUN FOR YOUR

LIVES.

BACK IN A MOMENT.

David: AND WELCOME

BACK TO "THE BRODY FILE."

POLITICS AND FAITH.

WHERE ELSE CAN YOU FIND A

SHOW THAT MIXES THOSE TWO.

IT IS TIME TO CHECK IN WITH

TRACY WINBORN.

AROUND HERE, WE LIKE TO CALL

HER "THE CHURCH LADY."

*

* MY SWEET LORD

DAVID, PEOPLE JUST CAN'T

GET ENOUGH OF "DUCK DYNASTY"

THESE DAYS.

YOU HEAR THE NAME PHIL

ROBERTSON A LOT.

HE HAS BEEN IN THE NEWS FOR

HIS SUPPORT OF TRADITIONAL

MARRIAGE.

HOW WOULD YOU LIKE TO BE

BAPTIZED BY HIM.

THIS GUY, BRIAN RICHARDS, HE

IS A HUGE "DUCK DYNASTY"

FAN.

HE DROVE 20 HOURS JUST TO BE

BAPTIZED BY ROBERTSON.

HE MADE THE 1300-MILE

JOURNEY FROM HIS HOME IN NEW

JERSEY TO ROBERTSON'S CHURCH

IN LOUISIANA.

I BAPTIZE YOU IN THE NAME

OF JESUS.

[APPLAUSE]

I WON WONDER IF BAPTISMS

BY ROBERTSON ARE OPEN TO

EVERYONE.

LOOK HIM UP AND GIVE IT A

SHOT.

NOW TO A STORY ABOUT THE

STICK GUYS.

THESE TWO GUYS HAVE BEEN

BEST FRIENDS SINCE HIGH

SCHOOL.

THEY WERE ALWAYS THE WISE

GUYS IN CLASS.

YOU KNOW THE TYPE.

ANYWAY, NOW THEY TEACH GOD'S

WORD THROUGH COMEDY.

THEY HAVE PUT TOGETHER A

LITTLE PIECE CALLED "THE

SKIN ME ON FASTING."

I THINK FASTING IS

AWESOME.

WHERE ELSE CAN YOU COMBINE

SPIRITUALITY AND DIETING ALL

IN THE SAME WAY.

I MEAN, I FAST -- THAT'S A

TOTAL LIE.

I DON'T FAST AT ALL.

NOW, DAVID, HERE IS A

STORY I PICKED JUST FOR

YOU.

IT IS ABOUT A SURPRISE

GOSPEL FLASH MOB IN

BIRMINGHAM, ALABAMA.

HEZEKIAH WALKER LED A FLASH

MOB WITH HIS HIT SONG "EVERY

PRAISE IS TO OUR GOD."

LET ME HEAR THE WORDS!

WE'RE ALL ABOUT PRAISING

GOD!

DAVID, I WOULD ACTUALLY

LIKE TO SEE "THE BRODY FILE"

IN A FLASH MOB SOME DAY.

WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO WORK

ON THAT.

THAT'S ALL FOR THE CHURCH

LADY, BACK TO YOU.

David: TRACY, WE WILL

TRY AN EFFORT, AN

EVANGELICAL FLASH MOB.

THAT'S DANGEROUS.

COMING UP, THE REPORTER

WHO'S STORIES ARE KNOWN FOR

BEING CRITICAL OF PRESIDENT

OBAMA.

WHY SHE IS RESIGNING FROM

CBS.

BACK IN A MOMENT.

David: AND WELCOME

BACK TO "THE BRODY FILE."

WELL, LOOK, CONSERVATIVES

CALL HER COURAGEOUS,

PASSIONATE, A TRUE

CHAMPION.

AND WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT

MILEY CYRUS.

NO, THEY ARE HEAPING THOSE

ACCOLADES ON CBS REPORTER

CHERYL ATKINSON.

SHE IS NOW FORMER CBS

REPORTER CHERYL ATKINSON

BECAUSE SHE RESIGNED THIS

WEEK AFTER BEING UNABLE TO

COME TO A CONTRACT AGREEMENT

WITH THE NETWORK.

SHE HAS GROWN FRUSTRATED

WITH CBS BECAUSE SHE CAN'T

GET MANY OF HER EXPLOSIVE

STORIES ON WHAT HAPPENED IN

BENGHAZI ON THE AIR.

THOSE STORIES HAVE BEEN

CRITICAL OF THE OBAMA

ADMINISTRATION.

WELL, LOOK, WE TALKED TO

ATKINSON ABOUT ALL OF THIS A

FEW MONTHS AGO.

SHE WAS VERY FRUSTRATED BACK

THEN WITH NOT BEING ABLE TO

GET SOME OF THESE BENGHAZI

STORIES ON THE AIR.

AS WE DO FROM TIME TO TIME,

LET'S DIP INTO "THE BRODY

FILE" VIDEO VAULT AND SEARCH

FOR THAT CHERYL ATKINSON

INTERVIEW.

LOOK, THE CONSERVATIVES --

YOU KNOW WHAT IS GOING ON,

AND THEY'RE GIVING YOU

AWARDS AND THEY LOVE YOU.

IT IS INTERESTING.

IT'S LIKE THEY'RE READY TO

PUT YOU, LIKE, AT A HERITAGE

FOUNDATION FELLOW OR YOU'RE

GOING TO SPEAK AT C-PAC, NOT

THAT YOU ARE.

WHAT HAS BEEN YOUR REACTION

TO ALL OF THE ATTENTION THAT

YOU'VE RECEIVED FROM THESE

CONSERVATIVE GROUPS.

IT IS KIND OF SOMEWHAT OF AN

AWKWARD SATIO SITUATION FOR

YOU.

I DON'T MIND IT AT ALL.

I APPRECIATE IT.

MAYBE NOT EVERYTHING IS

ENTIRELY TRUE, BUT I

APPRECIATE THERE WERE PEOPLE

COVERING THE REPORTING I

DO.

I STILL HAVE CLIPS FROM THE

TIME THE MEDIA CRITICS ON

THE CONSERVATIVE SIDE, AT

THAT POINT WHEN I WAS DOING

STORIES, BECAUSE WE HAD A

REPUBLICAN ADMINISTRATION,

THE STORIES WERE PERCEIVED,

WHEN I DO WATCHDOG-TYPE

THINGS AS HARMFUL OR

CRITICAL OF THE REPUBLICAN

ADMINISTRATION.

SO IT WAS PRESUMED I WAS

LIBERAL.

AND ACTUALLY, AS I LIKE TO

SAY, I'M POLITICALLY

AGNOSTIC.

IF YOU CONCLUDE BECAUSE I

INVESTIGATE A STORY AND IT

HAPPENS TO LEAD ONE WAY OR

THE OTHER AND I PERSISTENT,

IF YOU WANT TO CONCLUDE

THAT'S WHERE I STAND

POLITICALLY, YOU'RE FREE TO

DO THAT.

THAT'S NOT THE CASE,

THOUGH.

I CAME FROM A GREAT

JOURNALISM COLLEGE IN

FLORIDA, AND WE WERE

STRICTLY TRAINED HOW TO KEEP

YOUR OPINIONS OUT OF A

STORY.

AND ONE OF MY CHALLENGES IS

TO TRY TO COVER A NEWS STORY

THAT I FEEL DIFFERENTLY

ABOUT, BUT I'M ABLE TO

PRESENT IT IN A CONVINCING

AND FAIR WAY.

AND NOBODY IS ABLE TO -- IF

THEY GUESS HOW I FEEL, THEY

MIGHT BE WRONG OR THEY MIGHT

BE RIGHT.

David: I UNDERSTAND

YOU'RE NOT IN THE BUSINESS

OF CRITICIZING YOUR

COLLEAGUES.

I KNOW THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA

IS PICKING UP BENGHAZI IN A

BIG-TIME WAY.

BUT YOU WERE ON THE

FOREFRONT OF THIS EARLY ON.

DO YOU BELIEVE THAT THE

MEDIA OVERALL AT LARGE HAS

MISSED THE BOAT OR MISSED

THE BOAT TO BEGIN WITH

INITIALLY ON THIS?

WELL, THERE HAVE BEEN

MEDIA COVERING IT.

IT IS NOT AS THOUGH I'M

COMPLETELY BY MYSELF.

BUT I DO THINK THIS -- I'VE

OBSERVED THIS WITH MANY

STORIES OVER THE YEARS AND

DIFFERENT ADMINISTRATIONS.

THE MEDIA IS NOT ALWAYS

CONSISTENT IN THE VIGOR THAT

THEY USE TO PURSUE A GIVEN

TOPIC.

AND I NEVER QUITE

UNDERSTAND, YOU KNOW, WHY

THE DIFFERENCE.

BECAUSE I THINK WHEN

SOMETHING IS IMPORTANT WHEN

ONE ADMINISTRATION IS IN

OFFICE, THEN IT SHOULD BE

TREATED EQUAL WHEN ANOTHER

ADMINISTRATION IS IN

OFFICE.

I DON'T SEE THAT AS ALWAYS

THE CASE.

I THINK THE MEDIA DID NOT

USE THE OPPORTUNITY IN THE

WEEKS AND MONTHS AFTER

BENGHAZI TO BE AS PERSISTENT

AND AS POINTED AS THEY

SHOULD HAVE CONSIDERING THE

IMPORTANCE OF THE ISSUE IN

MY VIEW.

AFTER INDEPENDENTLY LOOKING

AT THE FACTS, I THINK YOU

CAN'T WALK AWAY AND CONCLUDE

ANYTHING OTHER THAN IT IS AN

EXTREMELY IMPORTANT STORY

WITH MANY UNANSWERED

QUESTIONS AND

CONTRADICTIONS.

I THINK SOME IN THE MEDIA

WERE NOT AS CURIOUS THAT I

THINK NATURALLY JOURNALISTS

OUGHT TO BE.

LET ME ASK YOU A

RELATIVELY SENSITIVE

QUESTION, BUT CBS AND HOW

THEY HAVE SEEN YOU COVER

THIS STORY, HAS THERE BE

SOME PUSHBACK FROM CBS?

AND IF SO, WHAT FORM IS IT

MANIFESTED IN?

NOT REALLY.

I WOULD SAY TWO THINGS ABOUT

THAT.

I HAVE RECEIVED A LOT OF

ENCOURAGEMENT FROM THE TOP

EXECUTIVES, WHO I CONSIDER

JEFF FAGER, OUR C.E.O., AND

DAVID RHODES, WHO IS OUR

PRESIDENT.

THEY HAVE CERTAINLY NEVER

SAID ANYTHING TO TRY TO

INTERFERE WITH THE

COVERAGE.

THEY COMPLIMENTED A LOT OF

MY WORK AND STRONGLY

SUPPORTED IT.

ON THE OTHER HAND, EVER

STORY YOU PRESENT AS A

REPORTER, HAS TO BE BOUGHT

BY A BROADCAST, MEANING NOT

PURCHASED FOR MONEY, BUT YOU

HAVE TO GET THEM INTERESTED

IN IT.

MAYBE THE EVENING NEWS WANTS

ONE STORY AND THE MORNING

NEWS WANTS ANOTHER STORY.

AND THERE HASN'T BEEN AN

APPETITE FOR THE STORIES I

DID ON BENGHAZI.

SO I PUBLISHED STORIES

ONLINE AND DONE A LOT OF MY

REPORTING THERE.

UNTIL RECENTLY, THERE HAS

BEEN, AS YOU SAID -- THERE

HASN'T BEEN MUCH OF A MARKET

ON AIR.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT ALL OF THE

DECISION-MAKING INVOLVES,

EXEMPT ON A GIVEN DAY THERE

IS A FINITE AMOUNT OF TIME

TO PUT STORIES ON.

David: HAS THAT BEEN A

FRUSTRATION FOR YOU, TO NOT

BE ABLE TO GET THESE STORIES

OUT IN DIFFERENT VENUES?

EVERYBODY WANTS THEIR

STORIES ON AS MUCH AS

POSSIBLE.

THIS IS NOT THE FIRST OR THE

LAST STORY THAT I'LL BE

DOING THAT I DIFFER WITH

SOME OF MY COLLEAGUES TO ITS

IMPORTANCE AND HOW MUCH

PROMINENCE IT SHOULD GET.

THAT'S ONE OF THE STORIES OF

MY LIFE.

I'M ALWAYS PUSHING STORIES

OFF THE BEATEN PATH OF WHAT

EVERYBODY ELSE WANTS TO DO.

I UNDERSTAND MAYBE THAT'S

WHY I'M INTERESTED IN THEM.

I FIGHT THOSE BATTLES.

I KIND OF ENJOY THE FIGHT.

I'M MORE SUCCESSFUL --

SUCCESSFUL MORE OFTEN THAN

NOT, BUT I'M CERTAINLY NOT

ALWAYS SUCCESSFUL IN PUSHING

WHAT I THINK IS AN IMPORTANT

STORY.

David: A VIDEO VAULT

EXCLUSIVE WITH CHERYL AT

ATKINSON.

SHE IS CURRENTLY AT WORK ON

BOOK TENTATIVELY CALLED

"STONEWALLED, ONE REPORTERS

FIGHT FOR TRUTH IN

WASHINGTON."

YOU THINK THAT'S GOING TO BE

A HIT WITH CONSERVATIVES?

MARK IT DOWN.

BACK IN A MOMENT WITH AN

OY-VEY MOMENT OF THE WEEK

THAT IS GOING TO MAKE YOU

FEEL DOWN AND OUT.

David: AND WELCOME

BACK TO THE SHOW,

EVERYBODY.

DO YOU EVER GET THAT SINKING

FEELING, JUST SOMETHING IS

NOT EXACTLY RIGHT?

WE SAW THAT TRANSPIRE ON

LIVE TELEVISION, AND IT'S

THIS WEEK'S OY-VEY MOMENT OF

THE WEEK.

*

[HAVA NAGILA]

David: ALL RIGHT, WE

WANT YOU TO WATCH THIS

REPORTER FROM THE B.B.C. IN

ENGLAND.

THIS IS WHAT HAPPENS WHEN

CAMERAS AREN'T CONTROLLED BY

PEOPLE, BUT RATHER BY

COMPUTERS.

HAVE A LOOK.

HE SUSPENDED SPENDING

PUBLIC MONEY AND HE WOULD

LIKE TO DRAW A LINE ON THIS

AND MOVE ON.

IN A STATEMENT, THE PANEL

SAID IT WELCOMED THE

APOLOGY, BUT SAID SOME OF

THE FINANCIAL COSTS COULD

HAVE BEEN AVOIDED.

CAROLINE, THANK YOU, I

THINK WE HAD A PROBLEM WITH

OUR CAMERA AT THE END.

David: THERE SHE GOES,

INTO THE LIBERAL MAINSTREAM

MEDIA ABYSS.

JUST KIDDING.

I'M SURE SHE IS A GOOD

PERSON.

THE GOOD NEWS IS SOMETHING

LIKE THAT JUST NEVER HAPPENS

AROUND HERE, I THINK.

THAT DOES IT UNTIL NEXT

TIME.

GOD BLESS.

HAVE A GREAT WEEK.

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