Award-winning former NFL coach Tony Dungy and his wife Lauren discuss the challenges of marriage on the backdrop of life in the NFL. Plus, Tony & Rosa's marriage faced many challenges including drug addiction, porn addiction and infidelity.
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COMING UP...NFL COACH
TONY DUNGY SHARES HIS GAME
PLAN FOR A SUCCESSFUL
MARRIAGE.
MARRIAGE IS TOUGH, BUT IT
IS DOABLE.
ç HEç AND HIS WIFE OPEN UP
ABOUT THEIR TRIALS.
WHAT HE KNEW BUT HE
WASN'T SHARING WITH ME.
A LITTLE MISUNDERSTANDING
CAN CREATE A LOT OF
PROBLEMS.
OVER 30 YEARS OF
MARRIAGE.
THAT'S WHAT MAKES IT
SPECIAL.
ON TODAY'S "700 CLUB."
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Pat: WELL, WELCOME,
LADIES AND GENTLEMEN,ç TO
TIAT EDITION OF "THE 700
CLUB."
DO YOU BELIEVE THAT GOD HAS
A SENSE OF HUMOR?
I JUST ASK YOU THAT.
WELL, I THINK HE DOES.
LET ME TELL YOU WHAT
HAPPENED.
IN THE UNITED STATES
CAPITAL, HARRY REID, BARBARA
BOXER AND THE DEMOCRATS HAD
AN ALL-NIGHT MARATHON
ADVANCING GLOBAL WARMING.
AND THEY SAID WE HAD TO BE
IN Aç!VEAR OF GLOBAL
WARMING.
AND SO GOD SAYS, HARRY AND
BARBARA, YOU'VE GOT IT ALL
WRONG.
AND HE DROPPED THE
TEMPERATURE 40°, AND SENT SO
MUCH WIND THAT IT KNOCKED
OUT THE LIGHTS IN THE
CAPITAL DOME FOR THE FIRST
TIME IN YEARS.
IT IS STILL COLD.
AND NOW CHICAGO, WE'RE
HEARING, IS THE COLDEST
MAYBE ON RECORD.
AND ONCE AGAIN THEY'RE IN
THE DEEP FREEZE.
AND THE LORD IS SAYING,&,5"UájjPáS, IT ISN'Tç GOING TO
HAPPEN THAT WAY.
WELL, I THINK THAT'S --
ISN'T IT FUN?
GOD HAS A SENSE OF HUMOR.
Terry: DID THEY GET
IT?
Pat: NO, THEY DIDN'T
GET IT.
NO, THEY DIDN'T GET IT!
THAT'S JUST THE WAY IT IS.
ANYHOW, IT'S COLD OUT
THERE.
WELL, WE DON'T KNOW QUITE
WHAT HAPPENED TO THAT
AIRPLANE.
PEOPLE ARE STILL TRYING TO
FIGURE OUT WHAT HAPPENED TO
THAT AIRLINER INç MALAYSIA.
AIRPLANE, AND YET IT WENT
OFF THE RADAR.
WE UNDERSTAND YOU CAN'T GET
RADAR ACROSS GREAT STRETCHES
OF OCEAN.
I USED TO FLY, AND I THOUGHT
THOSE TRANSPONDERS WOULD
PICK UP ANYWHERE.
IF THEY CAN PICK UP YOUR CAR
DRIVING ALONG SOME PLACE,
THEY OUGHT TO BE ABLE TO
PICK UP AN AIRPLANE.
Terry:çç I READ SOMEWHERE
THAT THE PILOT CAN ACTUALLY
TURN THAT RADAR OFF.
Pat: WELL, YOU CAN.
BUT NO PILOT IN HIS RIGHT
MIND WOULD TURN OFF A
RADAR.
Terry: UNLESS HE WAS
PRESSURED TO.
Pat: YES.
AND YOU TAKE OFF, AND YOU
SET THE THING, AND THAT'S
YOUR TRANSPONDER, AND YOU'RE
SQUASR'G, BEEP,ç BEEP,
BEEP.
AND THEY PICK YOU UP
IMMEDIATELY.
BUT THEY CAN PICK UP
AIRPLANES FROM SATELLITES.
I DON'T UNDERSTAND IT.
ANYHOW, SOME SAY THE PLANE
MAY HAVE STAYED IN THE AIR
FOR AN EXTRA FOUR HOURS, BUT
THE GOVERNMENT OF MALAYSIA
SAYS THAT'S NOT TRUE.
Terry: INVESTIGATORS
THOUGHT THAT SATELLITE
PHOTOS MIGHT HAVE SPOTTED
SOME DEBRIS FROM THE PLANE,
AND THAT TURNED UP NOTHING
AS WELL.
HEATHER CELLS HAS THEç
STORY.
NOW BELIEVE THAT THE MISSING
MALAYSIAN PLANE MAY HAVE
FLOWN FOR FIVE HOURS, FOUR
MORE THAN THEY FIRST
THOUGHT.
THE "WALL STREET JOURNAL"
REPORTS THAT THE CLUE IS
BASED ON DATA AUTOMATICALLY
TRANSMITTED FROM THE BOEING
ENGINE.
AND THIS RAISES ALL KINDS OF
QUESTIONS ABOUT WHO AND WHY
SOMEONE ON BOARD MAY HAVE
DIVERTED THE PLANE.
AND IT ALSO EXPANDS THE4&-SEARCH AREAç AGAIN.
IF THE PLANE FLEW FOR FOUR
MORE HOURS AFTER LAST MAKING
CONTACT, THAT IS AN EXTRA
2200 NAUTICAL MILES.
BUT MAI MALAYSIA'S ACTING
DEFENSE MINISTER DENIES THAT
IT SHOWS AN EXTRA FOUR HOURS
OF FLIGHT.
THOSE REPORTS ARE
INACCURATE.
THE LAST TRANSMISSIONç
INDICATES THATç EVERYTHING
WAS NORMAL.
Reporter: AUTHORITIES
HAVE BEEN SEARCHING FOR SIX
DAYS NOW WITH NOTHING TO
SHOW.
TODAY PLANES CHECK OUT AN
AREA WHERE CHINESE SATELLITE
IMAGES SHOW POSSIBLE DEBRIS,
BUT THEY FOUND NOTHING
MALAYSIAN AUTHORITIES ARE
FACING TOUGH QUESTIONS WITH
THE HANDLING OF THEIR
INVESTIGATION.
AT TIMES THEY HAVE ISSUED
CONFLICTING AND CONFUSING
STATEMENTS.
FOR FAMILIES OF THE MISSINGA&Cú
PASSENGERS, THEç WAIT IS
EXCRUCIATING.
IT JUST DISAPPEARED OFF
THE FACE OF THE EARTH.
AND IF WE COULD JUST FIND
SOME WRECKAGE OR SOMETHING
WOULD BE A HELP, PROBABLY.
BUT THERE IS NOTHING.
Reporter: AMERICAN
EXPERTS FROM THE NATIONAL
TRANSPORTATION SAFETY BOARD
AND THE FEDERAL AVIATION
ADMINISTRATION HAVE NOW
JOINED THE INVESTIGATION
AFTER BEING SHUTç OUTç FOR
DAYS.
SO FAR AUTHORITIES HAVE NOT
RULED OUT ANY POSSIBLE
CAUSE.
THAT INCLUDES MECHANICAL
FAILURE, PILOT ERROR,
SABOTAGE, AND TERRORISM.
HEATHER CELLS, CBN NEWS.
Pat: WHICH IS TO SAY WE
DON'T HAVE A CLUE.
AND IT'S JUST A SHAME FOR
THOSE WHO ARE SUFFERING.
THE SURVIVING FAMILIES,
THEY'RE INçç ANGUISH ON THIS
THING.
BUT IT IS STRANGE.
WELL, AS I MENTIONED BEFORE,
IT'S GOTTEN COLD.
HERE AT HOME -- IT'S FUNNY,
AGAIN, JUST A DAY AFTER THE
SENATE HELD AN ALL-NIGHT
TALK ON GLOBAL WARMING.
THEY SAID THIS PROVES GLOBAL
WARMING, IT GOT REALLY
COLD.
THEY HAVE ANOTHER SNOWSTORM
THAT HIT MUCH OF THE
COUNTRY.
JOHN JESSUP HAS THAT STORY
FROM WASHINGTON.
Reporter: PAT, THEçç
SNOWSTORM HAS BROUGHT HAVOC
ACROSS THE MIDWEST AND
NORTHEAST.
IN OHIO, PILEUP PILEUPS
INVOLVING AT LEAST 50 CARS
KILLED THREE PEOPLE AND
SERIOUSLY INJURED ONE STATE
TROOPER.
HE ACTUALLY GOT PINNED
BETWEEN THE VEHICLES.
Reporter: THE PILEUPS
ON BOTH SIDES OF THEç OHIOç
TURNPIKE CAUSED HOURS OF
DELAYS.
MEANWHILE, TENS OF THOUSANDS
OF HOMES IN ILLINOIS AND
INDIANA LOST POWER.
CHICAGO GOT ABOUT SIX INCHES
OF SNOW, MAKING IT THE THIRD
SNOWIEST WINTER A WEEK
BEFORE SPRING.
SOME PLACES COULD SEE THEIR
HEAVIEST SNOWFALLS THIS
SEASON BEFORE IT DISSIPATES
OVER CANADA.
AND SOME OF THE MAJOR
LANDMARKS HERE INç
WASHINGTMnXb(P(ITOL
HILL, WENT DARK YESTERDAY
AFTER STRONG WINDS
TEMPORARILY KNOCKED OUT
POWER THROUGHOUT THE
REGION.
AND SPEAKING OF BLACKOUTS,
THE UNITED STATES COULD
SUFFER A NATIONWIDE BLACKOUT
IF JUST NINE POWER SUB
STATIONS WERE SABOTAGED ON A
HOT SUMMER DAY.
THAT BLACKOUT COULD LAST
WEEKS, IF NOT MONTHS.
THAT'S ACCORDING TO A
FEDERAL STUDY REPORTED BY
THE WALL STREET.
IT WILL BE TAKEç IS TJr
SEPARATE POWER SYSTEMS TO
KNOCK OUT THE ENTIRE
NETWORK, ACCORDING TO THE
PEOPLE FAM RA FAMILIAR WITH
THE STUDY.
ON MONDAY, WE'LL HAVE A
SPECIAL REPORT ON WHAT COULD
HAPPEN IF TERRORISTS ATTACK
THE AMERICAN POWER GRID.
PAT?
Pat: JOHN, I PICKED UP
ON THIS A FEW WEEKS AGO, AND
I ASKED OUR NEWS DEPARTMENT
TO GET AN INDEPTH STUDY.
AGAIN, HERE ALLç YOUç NEED IS
A 330 OR A .22 RIFLE, AND
THEY COULD KNOCK OUT A WHOLE
POWER STATION.
NOTHING BUT A CHAIN LINK
FENCE SEPARATES THEM FROM
THE PUBLIC.
THE POWER THAT IT WOULD TAKE
TO KNOCK A FEW OF THEM THAT
WOULD KNOCK USç NO TIU STONE
AGE.
WATCH ON MONDAY.
YOU DON'T WANT TO MISS "THE
700 CLUB" ON THAT INDEPTH
REPORT OF THE FRAGILITY OF
THE POWER GRID.
JOHN?
Reporter: THE
REPUBLICAN-LED HOUSE OF
REPRESENTATIVES HAS PASSED A
BILL THAT WOULD MAKE IT
EASIER FOR CONGRESS TO SUE A
PRESIDENT FOR NOT ENFORCING
FEDERAL LAWS.
CONSERVATIVES AND SOME
LIBERALS HAVE CRITICIZED
PRESIDENT OBAMA FOR SIMPLY
PICKING AND CHOOSING WHICHçç
LAWS HE DECIDES TO SUPPORT.
UNDER THE BILL, THE HOUSE OR
SENATE WOULD HAVE A PASS FOR
ANY PRESIDENT WHO FAILED OUT
A CONSTITUTIONAL DUTY TO
ENFORCE THE LAW.
WHEN PRESIDENT OBAMA WAS AN
ILLINOIS SENATOR, HE WARNED
ABOUT THE GROWING POWER OF
THE PRESIDENCY AND NOW
REPUBLICANS SAY HE IS
ABUSING THAT POWER HIMSELF.
PAT?
Pat: I'M JUST REALLY
APPALLED AT THE ABUSESç OF
THAT MAN.
WHAT DOES HE THINK?
WE DON'T HAVE A DICTATOR.
WE DON'T HAVE AN EMPEROR
HERE IN AMERICA.
WE HAVE A GOVERNMENT OF
BALANCES, CHECKS AND
BALANCES.
THE PEOPLE'S HOUSE.
THE PEOPLE'S SENATE.
AND CONGRESS OF THE UNITED
STATES.
AND THEN WE A CHIEF
EXECUTIVE FAITHFUL SWORN TO
UPç HOLD
UPHOLD THE
CONSTITUTION AND THE LAWS OF
THE LAND.
AND THEN WE HAVE A COURT
THAT SOMEHOW ACTS A REFEREE
ALONG THE WAY.
BUT THE POWER IS IN CROWS.
CONGRESS.
BUT YOU WOULD NEVER KNOW IT
WATCHING THIS PRESIDENT.
HE DOES WHAT HE FEELS ISçç
EXPEDIENT.
AND THAT IS DANGEROUS.
AMERICAN PASTOR SAEED
ABEDINI IS BEING DENIED
MEDICAL HELP.
THE AMERICAN CENTER FOR LAW
AND JUSTICE REPORTS THAT
OVER A WEEK AGO HE WAS MOVED
FROM HIS JAIL CELL TO A
PRIVATE HOSPITAL FOR
TREATMENT, BUT NOW THAT
TREATMENT HAS STOPPED.
PASTOR SAEED WAS SHACKLED
AND REFUSED MEDICAL CARE,
AND HOSPITAL DOCTORS SAID HE
MUST LEAVE ANDç RETUSí TO
PRISON.
FOR MORE ON THIS STORY AND
HOW YOU CAN JOIN THOSE
CALLING FOR PASTOR SAEED'S
RELEASE, VISIT OUR WEBSITE,
CBNNEWS.COM.
TERRORISTS BACKED BY IRAN
KEPT UP THEIR ROCKET ATTACKS
AGAINST ISRAELI CITIES AFTER
A BARAGE ON SOUTHERN ISRAEL
WEDNESDAY NIGHT FROM GAZA.
BENJAMIN NETANYAHU SAID
ISRAEL WON'Tç TOLERATEç
TERROR.
IF THERE IS NO CALM IN
THE SOUTH, THERE WILL BE NO
CALM.
I CALL UPON THE RESIDENTS OF
THE SOUTH TO FOLLOW THE
INSTRUCTIONS.
Reporter: ISLAMIC JIHAD
FIRED MORE THAN 60 ROCKETS
INSIDE ISRAEL.
FORTUNATELY, NO ONE WAS
HURT.
DAVID CAMERON SAYS HIS
COUNTRY STANDS WITH ISRAEL
ON SECURITY MATTERS.
LET ME BE ABSOLUTELY("TiT(jç ABOUT THESE ATTACKS
FROMGAZA, WE CONDEMN THEM
COMPLETELY.
THEY'RE A REMINDER, AGAIN,
OF THE IMPORTANCE OF
OBTAINING AND SECURING
ISRAEL'S FUTURE AND THE
SECURITY THREATS THAT YOU
FACE.
AND YOU HAVE BRITAIN'S
SUPPORT IN FACING THOSE
SECURITY THEFTS.
Reporter: CAMERON WENT
TO ISRAEL TO PROMOTE THE
ISRAELI-PALESTINIAN PEACE
TALKS SPONSORED BY THE
UNITED STATES.ç
NETANYAHUç SAID THERE CAN
ONLY BE GENUINE PEACE IF
IRANIAN-BACKED TERRORISTS
CAN'T FIRE ROCKETS.
I KNOW YOU HAVE MORE IN THE
NEXT SEGMENT.
Pat: I HAVE AN
EXTRAORDINARY AUTHOR.
WE'RE GOING TO TALK MORE
ABOUT IT WITH CAROLINE
GLICK.
Terry: THERE IS A NEW
PLAN SHE IS GOING TO TALK
ABOUT FOR PEACE IN THE
MIDDLE EAST.
SHE IS A JOURNALISTSç ANDç AN
AUTHOR.
CAROLINE GLICK BLOWS THE
TWO-PLAN STATE OUT OF THE
WATER WITH HER ONE-PLAN
SOLUTION.
SHE'LL TELL US WHY AFTER
THIS.
çççççççç
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Pat: ROCKETS FROM GAZA
INTO SOUTHERN ISRAEL.
A GREAT SHIPMENT OF
LONG-RANGE MISSILES
INTERCEPTED BY THE ISRAELIS
FROM APPARENTLY SYRIAN
ORIGINS, THROUGH IRAN, INTO
GAZA.ç
THEY DIDN'T$P)Q IT.
BUT TWO OF THE THREE ISRAELI
JEWS SAY WE DON'T TRUST
SECRETARY OF STATE JOHN
KERRY WHEN IT COMES TO THEIR
COUNTRY'S SECURITY IN THE
MIDDLE EAST.
BUT THAT WON'T STOP THE
UNITED STATES FROM PUSHING
ISRAEL FOR A PEACE DEAL,
EVEN IF HISTORY SHOWS THOSE
DEALS DON'T WORK.
OUR REPORTER, JOHN WAGGI,
HAS THAT STORY.
Reporter: SINCE THEç
FAMOUS 1=yf HANDSHAKE ON THE
WHITE HOUSE LAWN, U.S.
DIPLOMATS HAVE PUSHED HARD
FOR A TWO-STATE SOLUTION TO
SOLVE THE CONFLICT BETWEEN
ISRAEL AND THE
PALESTINIANS.
A PALESTINIAN STATE THAT
WILL LIVE SIDE BY SIDE IN
PEACE WITH ISRAEL.
President Obama: WITHIN
THE DEMOGRAPHICS WEST OF THE
JORDAN RIVER, THE ONLY WAY
FOR ISRAEL TO ENDURE AND
THRIVE AS A JEWISH AND
DEMOCRATIC STATE ISç T@RNUGH
THE REALIZATION OF AN
INDEPENDENT AND VIABLE
PALESTINE.
Reporter: BUT MORE THAN
TWO DECADES OF TALKS AND
ISRAEL OFFERS OF TERRITORY
HAVE PRODUCED A PALESTINIAN
UPRISING, SUICIDE BOMBINGS,
AND ROCKET ATTACKS.
WHEN ISRAEL CONCEDES LAND,
THE RESULT IS MORE
VIOLENCE.
DO PALESTINIANS WANT TO LIVE
SIDE BY SIDE WITH A JEWISH
STATE, OR DO THEY WANT TO
SEE ISRAEL GO AWAY?
CRITICS0Se THEç PEACE
PROCESS HAS FAILED.
IN A NEW BOOK "THE ISRAELI
SOLUTION," THE AUTHOR
SUGGESTS ISRAELIS,
AMERICANS, AND PALESTINIANS
WOULD ALL BE BETTER OFF IF
THEY APPLIED THE BIBLICAL
CONCEPTS TO THE WEST BANK.
Pat: CAROLINE GLICK
JOINS US NOW.
SHEúHHSç WRITTEN A BOOK
CALLED "THE ISRAELI
SOLUTION."
CAROLINE, I THINK THIS IS
THE MOST COMPREHENSIVE AND
ARTICULATE DEFENSE OF WHAT
THE ISRAELI POSITION IS THAT
I'VE EVER SEEN.
I CONGRATULATE YOU ON THIS
BOOK.
THANK YOU SO MUCH.
THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME ON
YOUR PROGRAM.
Pat: LISTEN.
OKAY.
WHAT IS THIS -- THERE IS
SORT OF A MYOPIA THAT HAS
COMEç UPON AMERIQA AND THE
WEST.
YOU HAVE GONE INTO YOUR BOOK
AND SHOWED THE FEELING OF
THE SO-CALLED PALESTINIANS,
MAHMOUD ABBAS AND OTHERS.
DO THEY REALLY WANT A
STATE?
OR DO THEY REALLY JUST WANT
TO DESTROY ISRAEL?
WHAT IS THEIR PLAN?
I THINK WHAT YOU SEE WHEN
YOU LOOK THROUGH THE HISTORY
OF THE PALESTINIAN NATIONAL
MOVEMENT, BACK TO THE
1920s, WHEN IT WAS FIRST
INVENTED BY ITSç INITIALç
LEADER, WHO BECAME A NAZI,
THAT THE NATIONAL MOVEMENT
WAS NEVER INWARD-LOOKING.
IT WAS NEVER ABOUT BUILDING
UP A NATION.
IT WAS ALWAYS OUTWARD
LOOKING AND ELIMINATING THE
JEWISH NATION.
THAT WAS THE CASE FROM THE
OUTSET, AND, UNFORTUNATELY,
IT IS STILL TODAY.
THAT'S WHY MAHMOUD ABBAS
REFUSES TO RECOGNIZEç
ISRAEL'Sç RIGHT TO EXIST.
Pat: YOU HAVE IN YOUR
BOOK SOMETHING THAT I WASN'T
AWARE OF.
THE UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT
IS ACTUALLY SPENDING LARGE
AMOUNTS OF TAXPAYER MONEY TO
TRAIN ARMIES OF THE
PALESTINIANS, WHO IN TURN
WILL BE FIGHTING ISRAEL?
IS THAT CORRECT?
THERE IS ONE OF THE MAJOR
PROGRAMS THAT THE UNITED
STATES HAS UNDERTAKEN IN
RECENT YEARS HAS BEEN TO
BUILD UPç Aç PALESTINIAN
MILITARY FORCE.
IT STARTED WITH INDIVIDUAL
BATTALIONS, AND SO FAR
THEY'VE TRAINED OVER EIGHT
BATTALIONS IN JORDAN.
AND THEY'RE NOW WORKING TO
TURN IT INTO A
SELF-SUSTAINING MILITARY
ORGANIZATION.
AND THE U.S. MILITARY
COMMANDERS THEMSELVES, WHO
HAVE BEEN TRAINING THESE
PALESTINIANS HAVE
ACKNOWLEDGED THATç THEç
PALESTINIANS THEMSELVES WILL
LIKELY TURN THEIR GUNS ON
ISRAEL IF THEY DON'T FEEL
THEIR DEMANDS OF ISRAEL ARE
SATISFIED.
Pat: THE AMERICAN
TAXPAYERS HAVE NO IDEA OF
THAT.
I HAVE NEVER HEARD OF THAT
BEFORE.
IT CERTAINLY HASN'T BEEN
MADE PUBLIC.
WELL, IT DEPENDS ON HOW
THESE THINGS ARE DISCUSSED.
THEY'RE PRESENTED TO THE
AMERICAN PUBLIC AS
COUNTER-TERRORIST FORCES
BECAUSE THEY'RE FORCES THAT
ARE LED BY THE P.L.O., AND
THEY'RE INç OPPOSITION TOç
HAMAS, WHICH OVERTHROUGH THE
P.L.O. IN GAZA.
BUT BOTH GAZA AND THE P.L.O.
HAS NOT HAD ANY TROUBLE OVER
THE YEARS IN COLLABORATING
IN JOINT ATTACKS AGAINST
ISRAEL.
AND MORE TO THE POINT, SINCE
THE INCEPTION OF THE
PALESTINIAN AUTHORITY, THE
WEST BANK OF THE JORDAN AND
GAZA, IN THE MID-'90s,
MOST OF THE MAJOR TERRORISTS
COMPAIGNS AGAINST ISRAEL
BY PALESTINIAN SECURITY
FORCES, LIKE THE ONES THAT
THE AMERICANS ARE TRAINING
NOW.
Pat: I'VE MET WITH
YASSER ARAFAT A COUPLE OF
TIMES.
MAHMOUD ABBAS DOESN'T HAVE
THE SAME CHARISMA AS ARAFAT,
BUT ARAFAT WAS A STONE-COLD
KILLER.
HE DIDN'T ACT THAT WAY.
HE WAS ALL SWEET AND TENDER
AND ALL THAT KIND OF STUFF,
AND Açç KISSY, KISSY BUDDY.
BUT HE WAS TRAINED AS AN
AGENT OF THE MUSLIM
BROTHERHOOD.
WHAT ABOUT THIS WHOLE IDEA
OF HAMAS?
THEY CONTROL GAZA.
WHO ARE THEY?
WHO ARE THE PALESTINIANS?
WELL, HAMAS IS A JIHADIST
ORGANIZATION.
IT IS AN ORGANIZATION OF THE
MUSLIM BROTHERHOOD.ç
ITç CALLS FOR THE
ANNIHILATION OF NOT ONLY OF
THE JEWISH STATE, BUT OF THE
JEWISH PEOPLE WORLDWIDE.
IT BELIEVES THAT IT IS
REQUIRED TO DO SO NOT TO
ESTABLISH A PALESTINIAN
STATE, BUT TO ESTABLISH A
PALESTINIAN ENCLAVE OF AN
ISLAMIC CALIPHATE THAT THEY
HOPE AND THINK, LIKE
al-QAEDA WILL RULE THE
WORLD.
THAT'S WHAT HAMAS IS.
THE P.L.O.çç IS AN
ORGANIZATION THAT WAS
FORMED, OR FACTIONS OF IT --
YASSER ARAFAT'S FACTION WAS
FORMED IN THE LATE 1950s.
AND THERE IS AN UMBRELLA
ORGANIZATION OF PALESTINIAN
TERRORIST GROUPS.
THE LARGEST GROUPS IS FATAH,
WHICH ARAFAT FORMED, AND IT
REFUSES TO RECOGNIZE THAT
THE JEWS ARE A PEOPLE, THAT
THE JEWISH PEOPLE HAVE ANY
CONNECTION TO THE LAND OF
ISRAEL.
AND THEY ASCRIBEç TOç THE
MUSLIMS JEWISH HISTORY, AND
CLAIM THAT THE JEWS OF THE
BIBLE WERE ACTUALLY MUSLIMS,
AND THEREFORE THEY REJECT
ISRAEL'S RIGHT TO EXIST.
Pat: THERE NEVER HAS
BEEN A PALESTINIAN COUNTRY.
THESE PALESTINIANS, WHO ARE
THEY?
THE WHOLE TERM
"PALESTINIAN" OR
"PALESTINIAN ARAB" BECAME
COMMON USAGE IN 1974, AFTER
THE ARABç OILç EMBARGO,
FOLLOWING ISRAEL'S VICTORY
OVER THE EGYPTIANS AND THE
SYRIANS IN 1973.
THE SAUDIS BEGAN DICTATING
TERMS TO EUROPE FOR
RECEIVING A STEADY FLOW OF
OIL FROM THE PERSIAN GULF.
AND ONE OF THOSE MAIN
DEMANDS WAS THAT EUROPE
BEGIN TO ACCEPT AND
RECOGNIZE THE P.L.O. AND
OPPOSE ISRAEL DEPç
DIPLOMATICALLY.
AND OVER TIME, THIS TERM OF
ART, "PALESTINIAN," BECAME
MORE AND MORE ENTRENCHED.
BUT WE HAVE TO REMEMBER THAT
WHEN ISRAEL WAS FORMED IN
1948, ISRAELI JEWS WERE
REFERRED TO AS PALESTINIAN
JEWS, AND THE ARABS WERE
REFERRED TO AS PALESTINIAN
ARABS.
THIS IS ALL A NEW TERM.
IT JUICE USED TO REFER TO
JEWS.
AND OBAMA AND CLINTON, WERE
THEY INTO SOME SORT OF A
DELUSION ACCORDING TO THIS.
WE PUSHED SO HARD TO GET
THIS TWO-STATE SOLUTION.
YES.
THIS ISN'T A DELUSION UNIQUE
TO THE UNITED STATES.
THE BRITISH HAD IT AS WELL
FROM 1920 TO 1948.
IT IS BASED UPON Aç DESIRE TOç
WISH AWAY THE REAL CAUSE OF
THE PROLONGED ARAB CONFLICT
WITH THE JEWS, WHICH IS THE
ARABS REFUSE TO RECOGNIZE
JEWISH RIGHTS.
INSTEAD OF CONTENDING WITH
THAT, WHICH REQUIRES
PATIENCE AND IT REQUIRES A
FOCUS ON THE FAULT LIES
SOLELY WITH THE ARABS, THE
JEWS HAVE AT EVERY POINT
BEEN WILLING TO MAKE AN
AGREEMENT WITH THEç ARABS,
AND SO
PARTITION AGREEMENT SO THEY
COULD LIVE IN PEACE, AND
ONLY THE ARABS REJECTED IT.
BUT THAT REQUIRES PATIENCE,
AND IT REQUIRES THE UNITED
STATES TO BE WILLING TO
RECOGNIZE THINGS FOR WHAT
THEY ARE.
ISRAEL IS THE STEADIEST
WESTERN ALLY.
THE ARABS AREçç FALLING APART
POLITICALLY.
BUT IT IS MUCH I'S SEAR TO
EASIER TO LIES WITH ISRAEL
AND IT WON'T APPEASE THE
P.L.O. AND ITS ALLIES.
IT CLAIMS THAT THE FAULT
LIES WITH THE AMERICAN ALLY,
AND ALL OF THE UNITED STATES
IS REQUIRED TO DO TO BRING
PEACE EVERLASTING TO THE
REGIONç ISç TO PRESSURE ISRAEL
TO GIVE UP ITS HEARTLAND OF
JUDEA AND SAMARIA, WITHOUT
WHICH IT CAN'T DEFEND ITSELF
TO PALESTINIAN TERRORISTS.
Pat: AFTER THE SIX-DAY
WAR ISRAEL TOOK OVER THAT
SO-CALLED WEST BANK
TERRITORY, THE BIBLE LAND OF
JUDEA AND SAMARIA.
AND NOW THE TWO-STATE
SOLUTION IS A LOT OF THAT
GOES BACK, AND HALF OF
JERUSALEM GOES IN ASç A
CAPITAL OF THIS NEW
PALESTINIAN STATE.
YOU'RE SAYING THE ISRAELI
SOLUTION IS THE ISRAELIS
OUGHT TO TAKE CHARGE OF THAT
LAND AND NOT ONLY MAKE IT
DEFACTO, BUT DEJURY, AND
GOVERNOR WITH ISRAELI LAW
AND THEY'LL BE BETTER OFF?
TELL US ABOUT THAT.
SINCE THE P.L.O. CAME IN
IN 1994,ç THEYç HAVE
UNDERMINED THE RULE OF LAW
IN THE AREAS THAT THEY RULE,
TRANSFORMED THEIR AREAS INTO
CLEPTO CRATIC TERROR E ON
CLAVES.
AND THEY HAVE IMPRISONED
JOURNALISTS AND ANYBODY WHO
SPEAKS OUT AGAINST THE
REGIME.
SO THEçç PALESTINIANS WENT TO
WHERE THEY HAD MORE RIGHTS
THAN IN ANY OTHER WORLD, TO
JUST A REGULAR PEOPLE IN THE
ARAB WORLD THAT HAVE NO
CIVIL RIGHTS.
WHAT I PROPOSE IS THAT FOR
THE BETTERMENT OF ALL,
ISRAEL SHOULD APPLY ITS LAWS
AND THROUGH THEM, THE
SOVEREIGNTY THROUGH THOSE
AREAS, AND STOP WITH THIS
TWO-STATE SOLUTION THAT HAS
FAILED CONTINUOUSLY FOR 90
YEARS.
AND GOç WITH WHATç WORKS.
THE ONLY THING THAT REALLY
WORKS IS ISRAEL.
ALL OF THE DEMOGRAPHIC DATA
THAT PEOPLE LIKE PRESIDENT
OBAMA CONTINUOUSLY THREATEN
ISRAEL WITH, DEMOGRAPHIC
COLLAPSE, HAS BEEN
FALSIFIED.
IF ISRAEL WERE TO DO THIS,
ISRAEL WOULD STILL RETAIN A
VERY LARGE AND GROWING
JEWISH MAJORITY OF THE
LAND.
AND THE PALESTINIAN COULD BE
AFFORDED FULL RIGHTS.
AND THAT WILL BE THAT.
Pat:ç CAROLINE, THISç IS
AN INTRIGUING SOLUTION.
DO YOU THINK ANYBODY IS
GOING TO BUY IT?
I THINK THAT PEOPLE ARE
ALREADY BUYING IT.
IN ISRAEL, WE'VE LIVED
THROUGH THE PAST 20 YEARS.
AND WE RECOGNIZE THAT THE
TWO-STATE SOLUTION DOESN'T
BRING PEACE.
IT BRINGS A MASSACRE OF OUR
PEOPLE.
SO JUST IN THE PRESENT
CANNESSET SESSION, THEY
CALLED FORç AREETHAT
COMPRISE A MAJORITY OF THE
LAND.
PEOPLE ARE TALKING ABOUT
THIS ALL OF THE TIME.
THIS IS ACTIVE POLICY GOING
ON IN ISRAEL TODAY.
ISRAELIS HAVE PASSED THE
RUBICON.
WE SAW WHAT IS HAPPENING
FROM GAZA.
AND ISRAELI CIVILIANS BEING
ATTACKED, AND ASSAULTED BY
MASSIVE MISSILE ATTACKS FROM
GAZA.
WE CAN'T LEAVE AND JUST PACK
UP OUR MARBLES AND GOç HOME,
ANDç WE CAN'T MAKE A PEACE
DEAL WITH THE PALESTINIANS
BECAUSE THEY DON'T WANT TO.
SO WHAT CAN WE DO?
HOW DO WE ENSURE OUR
FUTURE?
WE ENSURE OUR FUTURE BY
ENSURING OUR FUTURE?
THAT'S THE ISRAELI
SOLUTION.
I THINK IT IS AN IMPORTANT
ALTERNATIVE TO THE PATH OF
FAILURE WE'VE BEEN ON FOR SO
LONG.
Pat: CAROLINE, IT IS AN
INTRIGUING BOOK, AND I HOPE
YOU'LL GET A COPY TOç THE
UNITEDúS]ATES CONGRESS AND
ALL OF THOSE IN THE STATE
DEPARTMENT.
I'M GOING FROM HERE TO
CAPITOL HILL.
SO WE'LL SEE.
Pat: THE BOOK IS CALLED
"THE ISRAELI SOLUTION, AN
OPEN-STATE PLAN FOR PEACE IN
THE MIDDLE EAST."
YOU REALLY ALL TO GET A COPY
OF IT, IT IS VERY GOOD
HISTORY AND VERY WELL
WRITTEN.
Terry: WISELY WRITTEN.
Pat: IS THAT
ENLIGHTENING?
Terry: WELL, IT MAKESç
SENSE.ç
Pat: OF COURSE IT MAKES
SENSE.
BUT MOST OF US WHO ARE
PRO-ISRAELI, IT MAKES
SENSE.
Terry: UP NEXT, THEY
HAVE 31 YEARS OF EXPERIENCE
TOGETHER.
TONY DUNGY AND HIS WIFE,
LAUREN, TALK ABOUT THE
CHALLENGE OF COMMUNICATION.
YOU KNOW, THE LORD IS
TELLING ME THIS IS WHERE TO
GO.
HE KNEW, BUT HE WASN'T
SHARING THAT WITH ME.
TONY WAS COMMUNICATE WIG
EVERYBODY BUT ME.çç
Terry: SEE HOW THE
DUNGYS OVERCAME THIS
MISUNDERSTANDING TO BUILD
WHAT THEY CALL AN UNCOMMON
MARRIAGE.
çççççççç
Terry: HE PUT FAITH AND
FAMILY AHEAD OFçç FOOTBALL.
AND MADE SUPER BOWL
HISTORY.
LEGENDARY COACH TONY DUNGY
PRACTICED WHAT HE PREACHED
AT HOME FIRST, ALONG WITH
HIS LOVELY WIFE, LAUREN.
AND RECENTLY SEAN BROWN
TALKED WITH THE COUPLE ABOUT
THE GAME PLAN THAT HAS GIVEN
THEM A WINNING MARRIAGE.
Reporter: TONY AND
LAUREN DUNGY HAVE BEEN
MARRIED FOR THE PAST 31
YEARS.
THEY TALK ABOUT THEIRç
RELATIONSHIP Kn THEIR NEW
BOOK, "UNCOMMON MARRIAGE,"
AND SHARE WHAT THEY HAVE
LEARNED ABOUT LASTING LOVE,
AND HOW TO NEGOTIATE THE
OBSTACLES THAT LIFE CAN
BRING.
WHAT ARE SOME OF THE
THINGS YOU WANT READERS TO
GET FROM YOUR BOOK?
TO KNOW THAT MARRIAGE IS
TOUGH, BUT IT IS DOABLE.
IT IS A GREAT INSTITUTION.
WE NEED TO RAISE THAT
INSTITUTION BACK TO UP TO
WHERE IT WAS HELD YEARS
AGO.
I THINK WE HAVE TAKEN
MARRIAGE WAY TOO LIGHTLY INçC:
OUR COUNTRY.
IT IS IMPORTANT.
IT IS GOD'S PLAN.
AND WE'VE GOT TO DO IT GOD'S
WAY.
AND THAT MARRIAGE IS A
COMMITMENT, AND GOD INTENDED
IT TO BE LONG-LASTING.
AND WHEN WE ENCOUNTER
DIFFICULTIES OR CHALLENGES,
THAT WE WORK CLOSER
TOGETHER.
AND IT'S SO EASY TO SAY, YOU
KNOW, I'M GIVING UP AND I'M
THROWING IN THE TOWEL.
BUT GOD INTENDS FOR US TO
STAY TOGETHER0A
THROUGH THOSE CHALLENGES.
Reporter: THEY SAY THE
BASIC CHALLENGE IS LEARNING
HOW TO COMMUNICATE.
COMMUNICATION IS THE
KEY.
I CAN'T EMPHASIZE THAT
ENOUGH.
IT IS SO IMPORTANT THAT
YOU'RE ON THE SAME PAGE AND
YOU'RE TALKING AND PRAYING
ABOUT EVERYTHING.
AND OFTENTIMES THAT LITTLE
MISUNDERSTANDING CAN CREATE
A LOT OF PROBLEMS.
WHEN YOU SAY4ú&"COMMUNICATE,"ç THAT CAN
SOMETIMES MEAN SOMETHING
DIFFERENT TO A HUSBAND THAN
TO A WIFE.
SO I'LL ASK YOU BOTH, WHAT
DOES IT MEAN TO
COMMUNICATE?
I THINK THERE ARE TWO
PARTS TO COMMUNICATING.
IT IS TALKING, BUT IT'S ALSO
LISTENING.
AND IT IS VERY IMPORTANT TO
LISTEN AND HEAR THE OTHER
PERSON.
IF YOU'RE TOO BUSY TALKING
AND GETTING YOUR POINT
ACROSS ORhSAYING WHAT'Sç ON
YOUR MIND, THEN YOU'RE NOT
ABLE TO COMMUNICATE
AFFECTIVELY WITH THE OTHER
PERSON.
I WOULD AGREE WITH THAT.
AND THE NEXT STEP IS TAKING
IT AND A APPLYING IT.
IT IS ONE THING WE BOTH HEAR
EACH OTHER, BUT WHERE ARE WE
GOING TO GO FROM HERE?
THIS IS IMPORTANT, AND I
NEED TO ACT ON THIS.
Reporter: TONY WASç AN
ASá@áUP'T COACH IN KANSAS
CITY AND DECIDED TO TAKE A
JOB IN MINNESOTA.
THE PROBLEM WAS, HE DIDN'T
MAKE SURE HIS WIFE WAS FULLY
ON BOARD WITH THE MOVE.
ONE OF MY GOOD FRIENDS,
DENNY GREEN, GOT THE HEAD
COACHING JOB WITH THE
MINNESOTA VIKINGS AND SAID
COME UP AND WE'LL TALK ABOUT
THAT.
I KNEW IN MY HEART, THAT
COACH GREEN -- I'VE KNOWN
HIM AND PLAYED FOR HIM.
IT WAS GOING TO BE A GREAT
SITUATION.
HE WAS MAKING MEçç DEFENSIVE
COORDINATOR.
I KNEW, YOU KNOW.
THE LORD IS TELLING ME THIS
IS WHERE TO GO.
SO IN MAYBE ONE DAY, HEY,
I'M NOT GOING BACK TO WORK
WITH THE CHIEFS.
WE'RE GOING TO MINNESOTA.
WHAT HE KNEW, HE WASN'T
SHARING THAT WITH ME.
I SHARED IT WITH YOU, BUT
IT WAS FAST,.
HE DIDN'T SHARE IT AND
COMMUNICATE THE WAY HE
NEEDED TO.
Reporter: IT IS
INTERESTING BECAUSE FOR MEN,
FOR US, WE THINK --;HUt
REA&Y THINK WE'RE
COMMUNICATING.
I DID SAY THAT.
HE MADE A STATEMENT AND
THEN YOU'RE OUT THE DOOR.
THAT IS NOT COMMUNICATION.
Reporter: FOR YOU --
HELP US UNDERSTAND HOW DID
YOU FEEL IN THAT MOMENT?
I KNOW SOMETIMES FOR ME, I
DON'T GET IT.
I REALLY FELT WE CAN
NEVER PRAY ENOUGH.
AND I THINK WE NEEDED TO
PRAY MORE ABOUT IT AND JUST
HAVE THAT ASSURANCE AND kN)u
THATç THIS WAS WHERE THE LORD
WAS DIRECTING US AND WHERE
WE SHOULD GO.
AND I FELT THAT TONY WAS
COMMUNICATING WITH EVERYBODY
BUT ME.
IT WAS A GOOD LESSON,
THOUGH, AS WE LOOK BACK ON
IT, THAT WE REALLY NEEDED TO
COMMUNICATE BETTER WITH EACH
OTHER.
Reporter: WITH THE
LESSON LEARNED, MOVING
FORWARD, TONY AND LAUREN
MADE SURE THEY WERE ON THE
SAME PAGE.
AFTER FOUR YEARS WITHç THEç
VIKINGS, TONY BECAME THE
HEAD COACH FOR THE
BUCCANEERS.
SIX SEASONS AFTER THAT, HE
BECAME THE HEAD COACH FOR
THE INDIANAPOLIS COLTS.
IN 2007 HE BECAME THE FIRST
AFRICAN-AMERICAN HEAD COACH
TO WIN A SUPER BOWL.
THE DUNGYS SAY IN ADDITION
TO COMMUNICATING, THERE IS
ANOTHER ESSENTIAL KEY WITH
STRONG MARRIAGE: PRAYER.
IF YOU ASK US ONE KEY TO
HAVINGçç THAT UNCOMMON
MARRIAGE, I REALLY DO THINK
IT IS PRAYING TOGETHER,
PRAYING FOR YOUR SPOUSE ALL
THE TIME, BUT PRAYING
TOGETHER WITH YOUR SPOUSE.
THAT'S WHAT MAKES IT
SPECIAL.
AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT
WE'VE LEARNED THAT IS
IMPORTANT.
WE HAVE CARVED OUT THAT
TIME, AND FOR US IT WORKS.
FIRST THING IN THE MORNING,
BEFORE WE GET BUSY WITH THE
KIDS, BEFORE WE GET BUSY
WITH OUR DAILY ROUTINE, WE
GET UP AND WE TAKE TIMEç TOç
PRAY TOGETHER AND READ.
AND WE'VE HAD THAT
FELLOWSHIP WITH OUR HEAVENLY
FATHER.
Reporter: THE DUNGYS
HAVE CHRONICLED THREE
DECADES OF LIFE'S
EXPERIENCES TO HELP PEOPLE
UNDERSTAND THAT THROUGH GOD,
MARRIAGE CAN WORK, NO MATTER
WHAT OBSTACLES COME THEIR
WAY.
JESUS CHRIST IS THE
CENTER OF OUR LIFE, HE
DIRECTS EVERYTHING, ANDç
WE'REç LIVING TO SERVE HIM.
IF I'M SINGLE AND I'M
FOLLOWING CHRIST, HE IS
GIVING ME DIRECTION.
AND LAUREN IS FOLLOWING
CHRIST AND HE IS GIVING HER
DIRECTION.
AND NOW WE WANT TO COME
TOGETHER AS A COUPLE.
WELL, WE WOULD GO IN
DIFFERENT DIRECTIONS IF WE
DIDN'T HAVE CHRIST.
AND WITH CHRIST AS THE GUIDE
POST, WE KNOW WE'RE GOING TO
COME TOGETHER AND NOT GROW
APART.
Terry: A LOT OF WISDOM
FROM A COUPLEç WHO HASç
LEARNED ABOUT IT OVER THE
YEARS.
IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO LEARN
MORE ABOUT THE DUNGY'S
MARRIAGE, INCLUDING HOW THEY
COPED WITH THE SUICIDE OF
THEIR SON, JAMIE -- LIFE HAS
NOT ALWAYS BEEN EASY FOR
THEM.
YOU'LL WANT TO READ THIS
BOOK, AND ITS CALLED,
"UNCOMMON MARRIAGE."
THEY HAVE A LOT OF WISDOM
AND A LOT TO SAY.
TIME FOR E-MAIL.
THIS IS "BRING IT ON."
THE FIRST ONE IS FROM KAY,
AND SHEç SAYS,ç "MY GRANDSON
WAS SAVED AT 10 YEARS OF
AGE.
IN HIS LATE TEENS, HE
STARTED STEALING WITH HIS
FRIENDS.
HE WAS SHOT AND KILLED WHILE
TRESPASSING, BY SOMEONE WHO
THOUGHT HE WAS STEALING FROM
THEM.
MY QUESTION IS, CAN MY
GRANDSON STILL GO TO HEAVEN
BECAUSo HE WASç SAVED, BUT HE
WAS NOT DOING THE RIGHT
THING?"
Pat: KAY, I CAN'T
REALLY SAY.
I DO THINK THAT GOD KEEPS
THOSE WHO BELONG TO HIM.
BUT I CAN'T TELL YOU.
I CAN'T SAY HE IS IN
HEAVEN.
ONLY GOD KNOWS.
I DON'T HAVE ANY INSIGHT
INTO IT.
YOU CAN'T EVER PRESUME ON
THE LORD AND SAY, I KNOW I
MADE A DECISION WHEN I WAS
10 YEARS OLD, BUT WHEN I'M
25 I'Mç OUTç DOING DRUGS, CAT
TING AROUND AND BREAKING THE
LAW, AND THEREFORE I'M GOING
TO BE IN HEAVEN.
I DON'T BELIEVE THAT.
YOU CANNOT PRESUME UPON THE
LORD.
Terry: THIS IS SUZANNE,
WHO'S QUESTION IS SOMEWHAT
IN LINE WITH THAT, SHE SAYS,
"ARE CHRISTIANS WHO SIN ABLE
TO REPENTçç AND HAVE
SALVATION.
AFTER READING HEBREWS ON
BELIEVERS WHO DELIBERATELY
SIN, I'M NOT SURE ANYMORE."
Pat: GOD BLESS YOU, BUT
YOU READ THE BIBLE BUT YOU
DON'T READ IT CORRECTLY.
THE WORD IS GREEK IS
"APOSTOSIZE," WHICH MEANS
YOU TURNç AWAY FRK GOD.
YOU SAY I DON'T BELIEVE IN
GOD, I DON'T BELIEVE IN
JESUS, I DON'T BELIEVE IN
ANY OF IT, AND THAT'S WHAT
IT MEANS.
SIN IS SOMETHING ELSE.
FALLING AWAY, I MISSED THE
MARK.
BUT WHAT THIS IS SAYING IS
THAT IF SOMEBODY APç
APOSTOSIZES AND TRAMPLES ON
THE BLOOD OF CHRIST, AND
DENIES IT ALL, THAT'S A
TOTALLY DIFFERENT THING.
Terry: BRIAN SAYS, "MY
81-YEAR-OLD MOTHER AND I,
BETTY WATCH YOUR SHOW ALL OF
THE TIME.
TALK ABOUT WHAT SIN IS.
MOST MINISTERS GLOSS OVER
THIS FACT.
I SAY WHEN I'M TOLD I WAS
BORN A SINNERçç THAT I DESERVE
TO KNOW WHY YOU BAR BORN A
SINNER."
Pat: ORIGINAL SIN --
HUMANITY, BECAUSE OF WHAT
HAPPENED TO ADAM AND EVE
HAVE A TENDENCY TOWARDS
SIN.
ADAM AND EVE LIVED IN THE
PRESENCE OFç GODç ALMIGHTY.
AND THEY WERE IN MORAL
NEUTRAL.
THEY DIDN'T HAV HAVE A A
TENDENCY TOWARDS SIN, AND
THEIR NATURAL REACTION WAS
TO OBEY HIM.
BUT RIGHT NOW, BECAUSE OF
THE FLESH AND THE DEVIL, THE
PULL ON US IS TOWARDS SIN.
THEY USE THE TERM "ORIGINAL
SIN," AND WEç HAVE THAT
FEELING.
AND AS WE'RE BORN INTO THIS
WORLD, THERE IS A TENDENCY
TO GO AWAY FROM GOD.
THE BIBLE SAYS FOLLY IS
BOUND UP IN THE HEART OF A
CHILD.
WE GO STRAIGHT FROM THE WOMB
SPEAKING LIES.
THERE IS SOMETHING ABOUT US
THAT IS SINFUL.
AND THEREFORE THAT SIN, WHEN
WE COME TO JESUS CHRIST,
THAT'S WHAT BEING BORN AGAINç
IS BORNç ABOUT.
WE'RE ACTUALLY REBORN AS A
NEW CREATURE IN CHRIST.
AND THAT TENDENCY NOW IS
TAKEN AWAY FROM US BECAUSE
GOD NOW GIVES US HIS HOLY
SPIRIT AND WE ARE MORE DRAWN
TOWARDS GOD THAN WE ARE
TOWARDS SIN.
THAT'S WHAT ORIGINAL SIN IS
ALL ABOUT.
I DON'T KNOW IF THAT ANSWERS
YOUR QUESTION, BUT I THINK
IT IS PART OF IT.
Terry: HAZEL SAYS, "I'M
17 AND PREGNANT, AND THEç
BABY'S FATHERç DOES NOT CARE
ABOUT ME AND THE BABY.
HE TOLD ME HE WANTED IT, BUT
WHEN HE FOUND OUT I WAS
PREGNANT, HE MOVED TO
ANOTHER COUNTRY.
I PRAYED A LOT FOR THIS
RELATIONSHIP AND NOW THIS
HAPPENED.
I FEEL SO BAD.
HOW CAN I BELIEVE IN FAMILY
AND LOVE?"
Pat: DARLING, YOU'RE 17
AND YOU'RE HAVING SEX OUT OF
MARRIAGE, HOW CAN YOU
BELIEVE IN FAMILY AND LOVE?
THAT'S NOT FAMILY AND THAT'S
NOTç LOVE.ç
THAT'S LUST AND YOU GOT
CAUGHT.
SO, OKAY, YOU HAD A BABY.
YOU CAN BELIEVE IN GOD.
WHAT YOU NEED TO DO IS GIVE
YOUR HEART TO THE LORD.
ASK HIS FORGIVENESS FOR WHAT
YOU'VE DONE, AND ASK HIM TO
GIVE YOU A NEW LIFE.
NOW, YOU'RE NOT MARRIED TO
THIS GUY, AND IF GOD SENDS
YOU THE APPROPRIATE MAN,
THERE IS NOTHING WRONG WITH
YOU GETTING MARRIED AND
BUILDING A FAMILY.
BUT YOU DIDN'T HAVED
AND ]U DIDN'T HAVE LOVE.
BUT YOU CAN HAVE FAMILY AND
YOU CAN HAVE LOVE IF YOU
SURRENDER TO THE LORD AND
ASK HIS FORGIVENESS.
HE WILL GRACIOUSLY FORGIVE
YOU, PUT HIS ARMS AROUND
YOU, AND GIVE YOU A BRAND
NEW LIFE BECAUSE HE LOVES
YOU.
Terry: THIS IS FROM
MISSY WHO SAYS, "I WAS
MARRIED TO A BELIEVER WHO
WAS KILLED IN A MOTORCYCLE
ACCIDENT IN 2007.
AFTER A FEW YEARS OF
DEPRESSION, DESPERATION, AND
LONEMYNESS, I METç A MAN WHO
IS NOT A BELIEVER, AND I
MARRIED HIM, THINKING I
WOULD LEAD HIM TO THE LORD.
THIS HAS NOT HAPPENED IN
THREE YEARS, AND I REALIZE
NOW THIS WAS A BIG MISTAKE.
AM I OBLIGATED TO STAY IN
THE MARRIAGE?
HOW RESPONSIBLE ARE WE TO
STAY TRUE TO A PROMISE WHILE
WE WERE EMOTIONALLY
DISTRAUGHT.
I DGN&T WANTç TO MAKE
MISTAKES.
I WANT TO STAY TRUE TO THE
LORD."
Pat: YOUR HONOR, WAS
DRUNK.
Terry: BUT AT LEAST AT
THIS STAGE SHE WANTS TO MAKE
THE RIGHT DECISION.
Pat: THE BIBLE SAYS IF
THERE IS AN UNBELIEVER, LET
THEM DEPART.
THE BROTHER OR SISTER IS NOT
BOUND IN THAT GáQ
BUTç IN THIS CASE, YOU WANT
TO LEAVE.
GOD SAYS HE HATES DIVORCE,
BUT I WOULD HESITATE TO SAY
THAT YOU'RE BOUND IN A
SITUATION LIKE THAT.
BUT YOU BETTER PRAY ON THAT
ONE BECAUSE I DON'T HAVE AN
ANSWER FOR YOU.
Terry: WHAT SHE IS
DOING IS VERY TYPICAL.
LOTS OF US, AS WOMEN, HAVE
GOTTEN INTO RELATIONSHIPS IN
OUR LIVES WHERE WE SAY WHEN
I'M JUST THERE, IT WILL BE
DIFFERENT.ç
AND, YOUç KNOW, THE WISE
THING IS IF IT IS NOT
DIFFERENT NOW, IT IS NOT
GOING TO BE DIFFERENT
LATER.
Pat: OF COURSE.
THEY JUMP INTO MARRIAGE AND
THEY THROW THEMSELVES AWAY,
AND THEY FEEL CHEAPENED, AND
THEY'RE DEBASED --
Terry: I IT MEETS A
NEED AT THE MOMENT.
Pat: CAN YOU GET OUT OF
THAT?
IS IT PERMISSIBLE UNDER THE
BIBLE TO SAY IT ISç ALLç
OVER?
Terry: I DON'T THINK
SO.
Pat: YOU DON'T THINK
SO?
Terry: I DON'T THINK
SO.
UNLESS YOU HAVE BIBLICAL
GROUNDS, YOU'RE TO STAY, AND
BY YOUR BEHAVIOR PERHAPS WOO
THE PERSON.
Pat: I BELIEVE IN
CONSTRUCTIVE DESERTION.
THE BIBLE SAYS IF HE IS
PLEASED TO LIVE WITH YOU, GO
AHEAD AND LIVE WITH HIM.
BUT IF HE IS NOT PLEASED TO
LIVE WITH YOU, AND HEç WANTS
TOLEAVE, YOU'RE NOT BOUND.
BUT THIS IS A DIFFICULT
SITUATION --
Terry: WE ALMOST DON'T
HAVE ENOUGH DETAILS ON THE
RELATIONSHIP --
Pat: I REALLY DON'T, TO
KNOW WHO HE IS AND WHAT HE
IS.
IT IS A GOOD EXAMPLE FOR
OTHERS IN THIS AUDIENCE,
DON'T JUMP INTO SOME
MARRIAGE RELATIONSHIP ON THE
SPISPUR OF THE MOMENT.
I THOUGHTç Iç HEARD BELLS
RINGING OR I HEARD SOMETHING
IN MY HEART GOING OFF.
STAY OUT OF THAT.
MARRIAGE IS FOR KEEPS.
AND DON'T ENTER INTO
MARRIAGE --
Terry: KEEPS IS FOR A
LONG TIME.
Pat: IF YOU MADE A
MISTAKE, A GIRL GETS
PREGNANT, BETTER TO HAVE A
BABY, BRING UP THE BABY,
THEN TO ENTER INTO AN
ILL-ADVISED MARRIAGE AND
THEN BUST THAT UPçç AND GO
SOME PLACE ELSE.
YOU ARE BETTER TO STAY AS
YOU ARE.
SO JUST LET THE LORD LEAD
YOU.
WE'RE GETTING QUESTIONS, BY
THE WAY -- THOSE QUESTIONS
CAME IN YESTERDAY ON THE
INTERNET.
THEY CAME IN ON THE INTERNET
YESTERDAY, AND WE'RE
ANSWERING THEM TODAY.
AND WE GET THEM AS FAST AS
WE CAN.
Terry: INDEED.
Pat: WE'VE GOT A LOT OF
QUESTIONS, BUT WEç CAN'T TAKEç
BUT FIVE OR SIX OF THEM.
Terry: STILL AHEAD, A
GROOM WITH A SECRET DRUG
ADDICTION.
ON OUR WEDDING NIGHT, I
ENDED UP SMOKING AND I DID
DRUGS ON THE WEDDING NIGHT.
SHORTLY AFTER GETTING
MARRIED WAS THE FIRST TIME
HE PUSHED ME UP AGAINST A
WALL, AND I FELT LIKE, OH,
DID I MAKE A MISTAKE?
DID I MARRY THE RIGHT
PERSON?
Terry: THE ANSWERS TO
THOSE QUESTIONS ARE COMING
UP.
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AND WELCOME BACK TO "THE
700 CLUB."
A BIBLE VERSE AT THE AIR
FORCE ACADEMYçç HAS SET OFF A
DEBATE OVER THE CONSTITUTION
AND RELIGIOUS FREEDOM.
CADETS WERE PRESSURED TO
REMOVE A BIBLE VERSE WRITTEN
ON A BLACK BOARD.
A CADET WROTE GALATIANS 2
AND 20 OUTSIDE THE BOARD.
IT READS, "I HAVE BEEN
CRUCIFIED WITH CHRIST,
THEREFORE I NO LONGER LIVE,
BUT CHRIST LIVES IN ME.
I LIVE BY FAITH IN THE SON
OF GOD, WHO LOVES ME AND
GATe@!%5M
THE DIRECTOR OF THE
RELIGIOUS FREEDOM FOUNDATION
CLAIMS THAT AMOUNTED TO AN
ABUSE OF AUTHORITY.
THE CADETS LATER REMOVED
THAT VERSE.
CATHOLIC GROUPS IN OKLAHOMA
HAVE FILED A NEW
CLASS-ACTION LAWSUIT TO
BLOCK PORTIONS OF
OBAMACARE'S ABORTION
MANDATE.
IT IS A GROUP OF NEARLY 200
CATHOLIC EMPLOYERS.
THEY WANT TO STOP THE
MANDATE THAT FORCES
EMPLOYERS TO PROVIDE HEALTH
INSURANCE COVERAGE FOR BIRTHç
CONTROLç AND
ABORTION-INDUCING DRUGS.
CATHOLIC LEADERS SAY THOSE
PRACTICE PRACTICES VIOLATE
CATHOLIC TEACHINGS.
REMEMBER, YOU CAN ALWAYS GET
THE LATEST FROM CBN NEWS BY
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RIGHT AFTER THIS.
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Terry: TONY AND ROSA
GOT OFF TO A ROUGH START.
THEIR MARRIAGE WENT FROM BAD
TO WORSE.
SO THEY DIVORCED.
THEN THEY REMARRIED.
FOR SEVERAL YEARS ROSA
THOUGHT THEIR RELATIONSHIP
WAS SOLID UNTIL SHE CAUGHT
Facebook.
I TOLD MYSELF, OKAY, I'M
GOING TO STOP THIS.
I'M GOING TO STOP SMOKING
AND CLEAN ALL THAT UP.
Reporter: WHEN TONY
MARTINEZ MARRIED ROSA, HE
THOUGHT HE COULD LEAVE HIS
CRYSTAL METH ADDICTION
BEHIND.
ON OUR WEDDING NIGHT, I
DID SOME DRUGS.
AND IT PROGRESSIVELY STARTED
TO GET WORSE.
Reporter: TONY WAS ABLE
TO KEEPç HISç DRUG ABUSE
PRIVATE FROM HIS WIFE, BUT
IT SENT HIM INTO FITS OF
RAGE.
SHORTLY AFTER GETTING
MARRIED WAS THE FIRST TIME
HE PUSHED ME UP AGAINST A
WALL.
AND I THOUGHT, DID I MAKE A
MISTAKE?
DID I MARRY THE RIGHT
PERSON?
Reporter: ROSA STILL
LOVED HER HUSBAND AND
TOLERATED HIS VOLATILE
BEHAVIOR.
I WAS GOING TO FIGHT FOR
OUR MILES PE MARRIAGE AND
TRY TO BE PATIENT WITH HIM.ç
Reportwr: THEN THEY HAD
A SON.
ROSA THOUGHT THINGS WOULD
GET BETTER, BUT SHE WAS
WRONG.
I DIDN'T KNOW WHAT TYPE
OF MOOD HE WOULD BE WHEN HE
WOULD GET HOME FROM WORK.
Reporter: ROSA PLEADED
WITH HER HUSBAND TO GO TO
COUNSELLING, BUT HE FELT
LIKE HE LOST CONTROL OF HIS
LIFE.
AFTER I WOULD BLOW UP AT
MY FAMILY, I THOUGHT, WHY AM
I TREATING MY FAMILY THIS
WAY.
Reporter: AFTER ONEç OFç
HIS BLOWUPS, SHE CALLED THE
POLICE.
EVEN THOUGH SHE DIDN'T PRESS
CHARGES, TONY THOUGHT HE
SHOULD STAY AT HIS PARENTS'
HOUSE.
I CALLED MY WIFE AND TOLD
HER THE REASON I WAS HAVING
THE MOOD SWINGS BECAUSE OF
THE DRUGS.
THEN I UNDERSTOOD.
THE ANGER ISSUES WAS
STARTING TO MAKE MORE SENSE
TO ME.
Reporter: FINALLY TONY
ENROLLED INçç A CHRISTIAN DRUG
ADDICTION PROGRAM.
AND DURING THAT TIME, TONY
AND ROSA JOINED A CHURCH AND
ACCEPTED CHRIST TOGETHER.
WE WERE BOTH BAPTIZED
TOGETHER.
AND I REMEMBER WHEN THEY
ASKED US IN OUR BAPTISM,
WHAT IS THE DIFFERENCE FROM
BEFORE AND NOW, HAVING A
LIFE WITH CHRIST.
AND I SAID NOW OUR ARGUMENTS
ONLY LAST A FEW HOURS
INSTEAD OF A FEW DAYS.
AND HE WAS LAUGHING ABOUTç
THAT.
÷iWKg ALTHOUGH TONY
PROFESSED FAITH IN CHRIST,
TONY STILL STRUGGLED WITH
HIS ANGER.
EVENTUALLY THEY DIVORCED.
OVER TIME TONY DEALT WITH
HIS ANGER, AND THE TWO
REUNITED.
I DID ASK FOR FORGIVENESS
FROM HER AND THE WAY THAT I
TREATED HER, THE WAY I
TALKED ABOUT HER, THE WAY
THAT I WAS TO HER.
Reporter: OVER THEYáU
SEVERALç YEARS, THEIR
MARRIAGE FLOURISHED, SO WHEN
TONY RECEIVED A WORK
ASSIGNMENT IN HONG KONG,
ROSA HAD NO RESERVATIONS.
OUR MARRIAGE IS STRONG
NOW, AND IT WILL ONLY BE A
COUPLE OF YEARS, AND WE'LL
BE SEEING EACH OTHER
PERIODICALLY, AND WE CAN
MAKE IT.
Reporter: THEY SPOKE
OFTEN AND SAW EACH OTHER
EVERY THREE MONTHS.
HE WAS SENDING ME LOVE
NOTES AND E-MAILS, AND HE
WAS TELLING ME HOW HE MISSED
ME.
ABOUT;HPç YEAR AFTERWARDS,
THAT KIND OF STOPPED.
I HAD A WOMAN'S INTUITION,
THE HOLY SPIRIT SPEAKING TO
ME, TELLING ME SOMETHING IS
NOT RIGHT.
Reporter: ROSA'S FEARS
WERE CONFIRMED WHEN SHE
LOOKED THROUGH TONY'S
Facebook PAGE.
I SAW SOME MESSAGES
BETWEEN HIM AND THE OTHER
WOMAN.
SO IT WAS HEART-WRENCHING TO
ME TOç HAVE TOç EVEN TALK TO
HIM.
Reporter: SHE NEVER
SAID A WORD TO TONY ABOUT
WHAT SHE FOUND UNTIL SHE
WENT FOR A VISIT.
I STARTED READING TO HIM
THE E-MAIL I HAD SEEN BACK
HERE AT HOME.
HE SAID, I THINK YOU'VE SEEN
ENOUGH.
AND HE CLOSED DOWN THE
COMPUTER.
I WAS SO ENRAGED.
I TURNED AROUND AND I GAVE
HIM A GOOD SLAP IN THE
FACE.
Reporter: TONY THOUGHT
THEIR MARRIAGE WAS OVER.
BUT ON THE FLIGHT FROM HONG
KONG --
I THOUGHT SHEç WAS GOINGç
TO FIND A SEPARATE SEAT AND
SIT AWAY FROM ME.
BUT SHE SAT NEXT TO ME AND
PUT HER HEAD ON MY SHOULDER
AND SAID, IT'S GOING TO BE
ALL RIGHT.
DIVORCE DID CROSS MY
MIND.
BUT I KNEW SOMEHOW WE WERE
GOING TO WORK THINGS OUT
WITH GOD'S HELP.
AT THAT POINT I KNEW I
HAD TO DO WHATEVER IT TOOK,
FOR THE REST OF MY LIFE, FOR
OUR RELATIONSHIP TO BE THE
BEST ITçBE.
Reporter: TONY
REDEDICATED HIS LIFE TO
CHRIST.
I'M TIRED.
I HAVE NO MORE SECRETS.
I'M NOT GOING TO LIVE THAT
LIFE ANYMORE.
I'M GOING TO LIVE MY LIFE
FOR GOD.
AND THAT'S WHAT HAPPENED.
I STARTED TO WORK MY
RELATIONSHIP WITH GOD.
Reporter: OVER TIME
THEY CAME BACK TOGETHER, AND
TONY ALSO JOINED A MEN'S
ACCOUNTABILITY GROUP AT
CHURCH.
WITH HER SUPPORT AND HER
FORGIVENESS, IT GAVE ME Aç
RELIEF THAT I NEEDED AND THE
COURAGE AND THAT DESIRE TO
GO FIND OUT WHAT WAS WRONG.
WHY WAS I ACTING THIS WAY?
WHY WAS I BEHAVING THIS
WAY?
IT WAS A PROCESS THAT I
HAD TO GO THROU TO GET
THROUGH TO GET TO THAT
FORGIVENESS POINT.
BECAUSE IF I WOULD HAVE JUST
SAID IT WITH WORDS, I WOULD
HAVE STILL HAD THE HURT AND
ANGER INSIDE OF ME, AND THAT
WOULD HAVEç COME áDÑ A
DIFFERENT WAY.
WHEN I SAY I FORGIVE HIM AND
CHRIST IS BEHIND ME.
WE PRAY FOR EACH OTHER.
THOSE TYPES OF THINGS ARE
REALLY SHOWING HER, I
BELIEVE, THE DIFFERENCE IN
MYSELF, AND PUTTING HER AS
THE PRIORITY.
FIRST IS GOD, AND THEN IT'S
HER.
FOLLOW GOD'S WORD BECAUSE
HIS WORD IS HOPE.
HE PROMISES TO HELP US OUT,
TO WALK WITH US, ANDç NOTç TO
LEAVE US ALONE, AND TO GIVE
US WISDOM.
AND ALL WE HAVE TO DO IS ASK
FOR IT.
Terry: YOU KNOW,
MARRIAGE IS COMPLICATED.
WHEN WE ARE DOING IT RIGHT,
IT CAN BECOME VERY SOLID.
BUT MANY TIMES IT IS VERY
FRAGILE, AND WE NEED TO
NURTURE IT AND TAKE CARE OF
IT.
WE NEED TO UNDERSTAND WHEN
WE COMMIT OUR LIVES TO
SOMEONE ELSE, THAT WE ARE
SURRENDERING OURç RIGHTSç TO
OURSELVES, AND WE HAVE TO
BECOME ONE.
THAT'S A COMPLICATED THING.
BECAUSE WE ARE INHERENTLY
SELFISH.
SO IT MEANS MAKING DAILY
CHOICES TO DO IT RIGHT, TO
DO IT GOD'S WAY.
IT IS, AFTER ALL, GOD'S
CREATION.
A RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN A MAN
AND A WOMAN, HIS WAY OF
PUTTING US TOGETHER,
BRINGING US TOGETHER TO HELP
EACH OTHER, NOT TO HARM EACH
OTHER.
BUT IT MEANSç STAYING ON TOXç
OF THAT.
IT MEANS CARING FOR IT.
IT MEANS DOING ALL OF THE
THINGS THAT DEEPEN AND MAKE
A RELATIONSHIP HEALTHY.
WHEN WE DO IT GOD'S WAY, IT
WORKS.
NO ONE IS EXPECTED TO STAY
IN AN ABUSIVE SCENARIO,
PHYSICALLY OR EMOTIONALLY.
BUT SOMETIMES WE'RE IN
SCENARIOS WHERE WE JUST
DON'T WANT TO DO THE HARD
WORK IT TAKES TO BRING A
MARRIAGE TO THE PLACE IT
SHOULD BE.
I WANT TO GIVEç YOU SOMEç
SOUND ADVICE TODAY FROM
GOD'S WORD.
HERE AT CBN WE'VE PUT
TOGETHER A PACKET CALLED
"LOVE AND MARRIAGE."
SO MANY OF YOU WRITE IN
QUESTIONS AND YOU SAY, WHAT
DOES GOD THINK ABOUT THIS OR
WHAT DOES THE BIBLE SAY
ABOUT THAT?
IT'S ALL IN HERE.
THE WORK HAS BEEN DONE FOR
YOU.
AND I WANT TO RECOMMEND TO
YOU THAT YOU GET AHOLD OF
TONY ANDç LAURENç DUNGY'S
BOOK.
THEY HAVE A LOT OF WISE
COUNSEL ON HOW DO YOU STAY
MARRIED AND STAY IN LOVE
WITH EACH OTHER.
DOING IT GOD'S WAY IS THE
KEY TO SUCCESS.
SO INVITING CHRIST INTO YOUR
LIFE FIRST IS THE KEY.
IF EACH OF YOU DO THAT, THEN
YOU START A NEW DAY IN YOUR
LIFE.
WE'VE GOT GREAT INFORMATION
HERE ON HOW DO YOU WALK WITH
THE LORD?
HOW DO YOU LIVE WITH HIM?
HOW DO YOU LET THE LOVE OFç
GND REIGN SUPREME IN YOUR
LIFE?
AND THEN IT SPILLS OVER INTO
THE LIFE OF THE ONE YOU
LOVE.
THE BOOK, OF COURSE, IS
AVAILABLE AROUND THE COUNTRY
WHEREVER BOOKS ARE SOLD.
PAT?
Pat: THANKS, TERRY.
FOLKS, WE LEAVE YOU WITH
TODAY'S POWER MINUTE FROM
ISAIAH: "NO WEAPON FORMED
AGAINST YOU SHALL PROSPER.
AND EVERY TONGUE WHICH RISES
AGAINST YOU IN JUDGMENT YOU
SHALL CONDEMN."
THIS IS THE HEART TAGE Oçç
HERITAGE OF THE SERVANTS OF
THE LORD.
THAT'S ALL OF THE TIME WE'VE
GOT.
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR BEING
WITH US.
"THE 700 CLUB" WILL BE ON AT
THE SAME TIME TOMORROW.
UNTIL THEN, THIS IS PAT
ROBERTSON.
SEE YOU THEN.
BYE-BYE.