Author Bill Wiese discusses the impact of near-death experiences on our faith. Plus, learn how Ben Breedlove was able to inspire millions at the end of his short life.
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WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU
DIE?
AN EYEUITY TO THE AFTER LIFE
SHARES THIS STORY.
AND THEN A MESSAGE FROM THE
GRAVE.
THEY ASKED WHAT WE
THOUGHT OF THE VIDEO, AND WE
DIDN'T KNOW WHAT THEY WERE
TALKING ABOUT.
AND IT WENT VIRAL.
JUST A COUPLE OF DAYS
AFTER BEN PASSED AWAY, HIS
VIDEO HAD ALREADY RECEIVED
MILLIONS OF VIEWS.
WHAT HE SAID...
THIS IS MY STORY.
THIS IS WHAT I BELIEVE.
ON TODAY'S "700 CLUB."
*
[APPLAUSE]
Pat: WELL, WELCOME,
FOLKS, TO THIS EDITION OF
"THE 700 CLUB."
IT LOOKS LIKE THIS
THANKSGIVING WEEK IS NOT THE
TIME TO BE DRIVING
ANYWHERE.
A BRUTAL STORM IS SLAMMING
THROUGH MUCH OF AMERICA
TODAY WITH FREEZING RAIN AND
ICE, AND UP TO NINE INCHES
OF SNOW IN SOME PLACES.
Terry: HOLIDAY
TRAVELLERS UP AND DOWN THE
EAST COAST ARE KEEPING AN
EYE ON THE WEATHER, AND
DRIVERS COULD FACE THAT
TREACHEROUS ROADS BEFORE
THANKSGIVING.
HEATHER CELLS HAS THE
STORY.
Reporter: SEVERE
WEATHER JUST IN TIMES FOR
THE HOLIDAYS.
I WOULD HAVE LAIKD TO
LIKED TO GO ON TUESDAY, BUT
I'M GLAD I'M LEAVING TODAY.
Reporter: THE POWERFUL
STORM IS MARCHING EAST,
EXPECTED TO BRING WITH IT
RAIN, SNOW, AND POWERFUL
WINDS.
NOT THE KIND OF FORECAST
HOLIDAY TRAVELLERS WANT TO
HEAR.
MY SON SAID, DON'T YOU
THINK ABOUT DRIVING.
AND I'M SO GLAD WE'RE NOT
DRIVING.
I HIT A BRIDGE COMING
OVER, AND THE CAR JUST WENT
AIRBORNE SIDEWAYS, AND I WAS
DOING 20, WHITE KNUCKLE.
Reporter: AND THOSE IN
FOR THE AIRPORT COULD BE IN
FOR HOLIDAY DELAYS, TOO.
25MILLION AMERICANS ARE
EXPECTED TO GET ON A PLANE
THIS WEEK.
BUT ANYONE HEADED TO AN AREA
AFFECTED BY THE WINTER STORM
COULD FACE MAJOR DELAYS.
OVER 12.
I CAME HERE FOR THE WEEKEND
AND CAN'T GET HOME.
HAD TO SPEND THE WHOLE NIGHT
IN HERE IN HIS AIRPORT, ON
THIS COLD FLOOR.
Reporter: THE WEBSITE
FLIGHT AWARE SHOWS FLIGHT
CANCELLATIONS AND DELAYS IN
TEXAS, MIAMI, ATLANTA, D.C.,
AND NEW YORK.
IT SHOULD CLEAR THE EAST
COAST BY THANKSGIVING DAY,
BUT THE COLD WILL REMAIN.
I TRY TO BUNDLE UP AS
MUCH AS I CAN.
Reporter: HEATHER
CELLS, CBN NEWS.
Pat: WELL, THERE ARE
MANY WHO SAY IT IS WORSE
THAN MUNICH.
THE SURRENDER TO ADOLPH
HITLER.
FOR NO GOOD REASON, WE HAVE
SURRENDERED TO IRAN, AND WE
ASK OURSELVES, WHY DID THEY
DO IT?
AS USUAL, THE PRESIDENT, WHO
IS A GREAT SPEECH-MAKER IS
OUT MAKING SPEECHES,
DEFENDING THE AGREEMENT ON
IRAN'S NUCLEAR PROGRAM.
AND ONE OF THE CRITICS OF IT
SAYS THE PRIME MINISTER
OF -- EXCUSE ME, IS THE
PRIME MINISTER OF ISRAEL.
JOHN JESSUP HAS THAT STORY
FROM WASHINGTON.
Reporter: PAT, ISRAEL'S
BENJAMIN NETANYAHU
REPORTEDLY WARNED PRESIDENT
OBAMA THAT THE DEAL ON
IRAN'S NUCLEAR PROGRAM COULD
TURN OUT BADLY.
HE MADE THAT WARNING DURING
A PHONE CALL THIS WEEKEND.
CHRIS MITCHELL HAS THE STORY
FROM JERUSALEM.
Reporter: THE PHONE
CALL BETWEEN NETANYAHU AND
OBAMA TOOK PLACE ON SUNDAY.
A PARLIAMENT MEMBER
DESCRIBED THE CALL TO AN
ISRAELI TV STATION.
THE PRIME MINISTER MADE IT
CLEAR TO THE MOST POWERFUL
MAN ON EARTH THAT IF HE
INTENDS TO STAY THE MOST
POWERFUL MAN ON EARTH, IT IS
IMPORTANT TO MAKE A CHANGE
IN AMERICAN POLICY.
BECAUSE THE PRACTICAL RESULT
OF HIS CURRENT POLICY IS
LIABLE TO LEAD HIM TO THE
SAME FAILURE THAT THE
AMERICANS ABSORBED IN NORTH
KOREA AND PAKISTAN.
AND IRAN COULD BE NEXT IN
LINE.
NETANYAHU ANNOUNCED AN
ISRAELI TEAM WILL BE HEADING
TO THE U.S. TO DISCUSS THE
GENEVA ACCORD, WHICH HE SAID
MUST DISMANTEL IRAN'S
NUCLEAR CAPABILITIES.
WILLIAM HAGUE DEFENDED THE
AGREEMENT TO PARLIAMENT.
MR. SPEAKER, THIS
AGREEMENT MEANS IT CANNOT
MAKE PROGRESS DURING THE
PERIOD OF THE INTERIM
AGREEMENT.
IN OTHER WORDS, IF IRAN
IMPLEMENTS THE DEAL IN GOOD
FAITH, AS IT HAS UNDERTAKEN
TO DO, IT CANNOT USE THESE
ROUTES TO MOVE CLOSER TO
OBTAIN A NUCLEAR WEAPONS
CAPABILITY.
Reporter: THE QUESTION
MANY HAVE IS IRAN DEAL IN
GOOD FAITH AFTER ITS LONG
TRACK MEMBER OF VIOLATING
THE U.N. RESOLUTIONS.
MEANWHILE, AND PERHAPS
IRONICALLY, DEEP IN THE
DESERT, ISRAEL HOSTED ITS
LARGEST EVER MILITARY
EXERCISE.
IT INCLUDED COMBAT SQUADRONS
FROM THE UNITED STATES,
GREECE, ITALY, AND ISRAEL.
IT IS A VERY GOOD
OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO
CONTINUE TO WORK ON EFFECT
SEES, TO BECOME MORE LOGIC
LOGICISTICLY SOUND, AND HOW
TO OPERATE TOGETHER TO
SUCCEED TO HAVE STABILITY IN
THE REGION.
WE LIVE IN A TOUGH WORLD,
A DANGEROUS WORLD.
ISRAEL LIVES IN A DANGEROUS
NEIGHBORHOOD, AND WE NEED
THE BEST EQUIPPED, BEST
TRAINED FORCES AS POSSIBLE
TO PROTECT OUR PEOPLE AND
OUR SECURITY.
WE ALSO NEED ALLIES.
AND WE HAVE GREAT ALLIES
HERE.
Reporter: WHEN ASKED
ABOUT MILITARY ACTION IN
REGARDS TO IRAN, SHAPIRO
SAID ALL OPTIONS ARE STILL
ON THE TABLE.
CHRIS MITCHELL, CBN NEWS,
JERUSALEM.
THE MAYOR OF PHILADELPHIA
AND OTHER CITY LEADERS ARE
WARNING THEY WON'T TOLERATE
THE KNOCK-OUT GAME IN THEIR
CITY.
IT IS THE POLITICAL LEADERS
AND LAW ENFORCEMENT WHO ARE
FIGHTING BACK AGAINST THE
DEADLY ATTACK.
WHERE TEENS APPROACH
STRANGERS AND TRY TO KNOCK
THEM OUT IN JUST ONE PUNCH.
AT LEAST TWO PEOPLE HAVE
DIED.
SOME REPORTS SAY BLACK TEENS
HAVE BE CARRYING OUT SOME OF
THE ATTACKS, AND OTHERS
POINT OUT MANY OF THE
ASSAULTS HAVE BEEN AGAINST
JEWS.
DEMOCRATS ARE GROWING
INCREASINGLY WORRIED ABOUT
THE PROBLEMS WITH OBAMACARE,
AND THEY'RE READY TO LAUNCH
THEIR OWN ATTACKS AGAINST
PRESIDENT OBAMA IF THE
HEALTH CARE WEBSITE ISN'T
FIXED BY THE END OF THE
MONTH.
MANY DEMOCRATS ARE READY TO
PUT DISTANCE BETWEEN
THEMSELVES AND THE WHITE
HOUSE BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT
CONFIDENT THAT THE
ADMINISTRATION HAS A PLAN TO
FIX OBAMACARE.
MANY ARE WORRIED THAT THE
PROBLEMS COULD LEAD TO THEIR
DEFEAT IN 2014.
AND YOU CAN START EXERCISING
AND IMPROVE YOUR HEALTH NO
MATTER HOW OLD YOU ARE.
A NEW STUDY FINDS THAT EVEN
IF YOU START EXERCISING IN
YOUR 60S, IT WILL HELP YOU
STAY HEALTHY AND AVOID MAJOR
DISEASES AS YOU GROW OLDER,
AND IT WILL HELP YOU KEEP
YOUR MIND FIT AS WELL.
THE STUDY WAS PUBLISHED IN
THE BRITISH JOURNAL OF
SPORTS MEDICINE.
EXPERTS SAY IT DOESN'T MEAN
PEOPLE SHOULD WAIT UNTIL
THEIR 60s TO START
EXERCISING BECAUSE THE STUDY
ALSO SUPPORTS THE IDEA THE
SOONER YOU START, THE
BETTER.
EVEN SO, IF YOU HAVEN'T
STARTED YET, IT IS NEVER TOO
LATE.
PAT, YOU'RE ONE OF THE
HEALTHIEST GUYS AROUND, AND
WHAT IS YOUR SECRET?
Pat: I JUST KEEP DOING
IT AND DOING IT AND DOING
IT.
A FEW YEARS AGO, I WAS DOING
SOME HEAVY STUFF.
MY LEG PRESSES, I WARMED UP
WITH 500 POUNDS, AND IT WENT
FROM THERE.
Terry: THAT WAS A
LITTLE OVER THE TOP.
Pat: THAT WAS A LITTLE
OVER THE TOP.
I DID 30 REPS AT 1,000
POUNDS.
NOW I HAVE A TOTAL GYM, AND
I REALLY RECOMMEND THAT.
I KNOW YOU'VE HEARD IT
ADVERTISED, AND I THINK THEY
BROUGHT THE PRICE DOWN FROM
WHAT I HAD TO PAY FOR IT.
ANYHOW, IT IS A TREMENDOUS
MACHINE, AND YOU CAN DO 20
MINUTES, 10 MINUTES, 5
MINUTES, 30 MINUTES.
THEY'VE GOT ABOUT 60
DIFFERENT EXERCISES.
IT IS A TERRIFIC MANAGE.
YOU PUT IT IN YOUR HOME.
Terry: IT DOESN'T TAKE
UP A LOT OF SPACE.
Pat: NO.
IT'S COLLAPSIBLE.
YOU DON'T HAVE TO GO TO A
GYM.
BUT WE HAVE A GYM HERE, ALL
KINDS OF STUFF AT THE
FOUND'S INN.
IT IS AVAILABLE.
Terry: JUST DO IT.
AND WE CAN ALL WALK.
I WALK.
Pat: THAT'S REAL GOOD.
Terry: BUT I NEED TO DO
MORE WEIGHTS.
NOT LIKE YOU DO THEM,
BUT --
Pat: I DON'T LIFT WHAT
I USED TO LIFT.
THAT WAS CRAZY.
BUT, ANYHOW --
Terry: GOOD TO HEAR YOU
ADMIT THAT.
Pat: ALL RIGHT.
GO AHEAD.
Terry: UP NEXT, SCOTT
ROSS GETS IN THE MIDDLE OF A
HOT DEBATE OVER DIVIDING
JERUSALEM.
[YELLING]
JERUSALEM, IT IS NOT FOR
A PALESTINIAN CITY.
[YELLING]
WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO
DO --
WHAT IS THE ISSUE?
Terry: SCOTT TAKES US
INTO THE THICK OF THINGS ON
THE STREETS OF JERUSALEM.
THAT'S NEXT.
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Pat: WELL, IF YOU READ
BIBLE PROPHECY, YOU SEE THAT
THE CITY OF JERUSALEM IS
GOING TO BE THE BURDENSOME
STONE.
YOU SEE JERUSALEM, THE
NATIONS GATHERED AROUND
JERUSALEM.
I MET SEVERAL TIMES WITH
YASSER ARAFAT, AND WHAT
ABOUT JERUSALEM?
AND HE WAS SAYING, WELL,
WE'LL WORK OUT SOMETHING.
THAT SOMETHING WAS WE'RE
GOING TO GET ALL OF IT, IF
POSSIBLE.
AND THAT'S GOT TO BE THE
CAPITAL OF THIS NEW
PALESTINIAN STATE THEY'RE
TRYING TO PUT TOGETHER.
IT IS THE HOT BUTTON ISSUE
THAT HAS LONG SPLIT THE
MIDDLE EAST.
SHOULD THE HOLY CITY OF
JERUSALEM BE UNITED FOREVER
UNDER THE ONES WHO WERE
UNDER THE SENTENCE OF KING
DAVID, OR SHOULD THEY BE
DIVIDED BETWEEN JEWS AND
PALESTINIANS.
OUR SCOTT ROSS TOOK THE
STREETS OF JERUSALEM AND TEL
AVIV TO ASK THE PEOPLE WHO
LIVE THERE WHAT DO THEY
THINK?
Reporter: JERUSALEM,
ITS NAME MEANS CITY OF
PEACE.
YET IT HAS BEEN DESTROYED,
REBUILT, CONQUERED, AND
RECONQUERED MORE TIMES THAN
ANY OTHER CITY IN HISTORY.
THE CITY HAS A ROLE TO
PLAY.
IT IS THE CENTER OF THE
WORLD.
Reporter: FOR 19 YEARS
JERUSALEM WAS DIVIDED
BETWEEN ISRAEL AND JORDAN.
WITH THE OLD CITY ON THE
JORDAN SIDE.
IN 1967, THE SIX-DAY WAR LED
TO THE REUNITING OF THE CITY
UNDER ISRAELI SOVEREIGNTY.
NOW PART OF THE U.S.-BACKED
PEACE PROCESS SEEKS TO SPLIT
THE CITY ONCE AGAIN.
BUT ISRAEL MAINTAINS
JERUSALEM IS ITS ETERNAL,
UNDIVIDED CAPITAL.
PALESTINIANS WANT THE
EASTERN PART FOR THE CAPITAL
OF A FUTURE STATE.
BUT JERUSALEM MAYOR, NIR
BARCOTT, TOLD ME DIVIDING
THE CITY IS IMPOSSIBLE.
IT CANNOT BE DIVIDED.
IT WILL NEVER FUPGZ AS A
FUNCTION AS A DIVIDED CITY.
IT HAS TO BE ONE PHYSICAL
CITY, ENABLING ALL TO
WORSHIP THEIR FAITH THEY'RE
WAY AND TO RESPECT EACH
OTHER.
THERE IS ROOM FOR ALL.
Reporter: CAN YOU
CONVINCE PALESTINIANS OF
THAT.
THE PALESTINIAN RESIDENTS
WHO LIVE IN JERUSALEM
UNDERSTAND THAT.
AND THERE ARE VENTURE
CAPITALIST, AND IT WILL
NEVER WORK.
THERE IS NOT ONE GOOD
EXAMPLE OF A CITY THAT WAS
SPLIT THAT HAS EVER
FUNCTIONED.
Reporter: JERUSALEM IS
MENTIONED BY NAME MORE THAN
800 TIMES IN THE BIBLE.
EVEN MORE IF YOU COUNT DAVID
AND ZION.
660 ARE IN THE HEBREW BIBLE
OR OLD TESTAMENT.
I SAT IN THE PARK, AND MY
KIDS WERE PLAYING IN THE
PARK, AND ZACHARIAH SAID
THERE WILL BE A TIME WHEN
THE CHILDREN PLAY AND MEN
SIT ON THE SIDE.
Reporter: I SAT DOWN
WITH AUTHOR AND BUSINESSMAN
MORSHI AND ASKED HIM ABOUT
THE JEWISH CONNECTION TO THE
CITY.
WHAT DOES JERUSALEM MEAN TO
THE CITY?
WHY JERUSALEM?
IT IS A NAME BECAUSE --
IT COULD BE A NAME BECAUSE
THERE IS A CITY NEXT TO
RESOURCES ON THE SHORES,
WHICH IS WHERE MOST PEOPLE
PUT THEIR CAPITAL CITIES.
Reporter: THE CITY
BEING DIVIDED AT ONE POINT,
REUNITED AGAIN IN '67, WILL
IT BE DIVIDED AGAIN?
I DON'T THINK IT CAN.
JERUSALEM THAT IS BUILT AS A
CITY THAT IS COMPACTED
TOGETHER.
BUT IN HEBREW IT DOESN'T SAY
COMPACTED.
IT JUST SAYS REUNITED
TOGETHER.
GOD IS SAYING THIS IS A CITY
THAT WILL BE TORN ASUNDER,
BUT I'M GOING TO BRING IT
BACK TOGETHER.
Reporter: I TALKED WITH
ISRAELIS IN TEL AVIV, AND
THEY SAY THEY'RE WILLING TO
SHARE THE CITY, BUT NOT
DIVIDE IT.
MY HEART -- IT IS
SOMETHING THAT I CANNOT
AGREE WITH, YOU KNOW.
Reporter: RIGHT.
THAT MY TOWN IS GOING TO
BE SEPARATED.
WE BELIEVE THAT JERUSALEM
IS SUPPOSED TO BE JEWISH
FOREVER.
BUT I DO BELIEVE FOR THERE
TO BE A SOLUTION, THERE IS
GOING TO BE GOOD FOR BOTH OF
THE PEOPLE.
Reporter: CAPINSKI SAYS
GOD HAS A PLAN FOR THE CITY,
WHETHER THE WORLD BELIEVES
IN IT OR NOT.
WHAT DO OTHER NATIONS SAY
WHEN YOU OR OTHER GROUPS
SAY -- WHEN YOU SPEAK THE
WAY YOU'RE SPEAKING NOW,
WITH YOUR ARGUMENT, YOUR
POINT OF VIEW?
HOW DO THE PALESTINIANS
RESPOND TO THAT?
THE SECRET -- I THINK THE
SECRET TO UNDERSTANDING THIS
COUNTRY IS THAT FACTS ARE
COMPLETELY IRRELEVANT.
Reporter: FACTS ARE
IRRELEVANT?
FACTS ARE COMPLETELY
IRRELEVANT.
PERCEPTION OF REALITY IS
WHAT COUNTS.
TO BELIEVE WHAT IS GOING ON
HERE, ESPECIALLY
PALESTINIANS, YOU NEED TO
UNDERSTAND WHAT THEY
PERCEIVE.
THEY REALLY BELIEVE WHAT
THEY BELIEVE BECAUSE THEY'VE
BEEN TOLD THAT'S WHAT THEY
NEED TO BELIEVE.
SO DIALOGUE WITH THE
PALESTINIANS TODAY HAS
BECOME ALMOST IMPOSSIBLE.
Reporter: JERUSALEM IS
NEVER MENTIONED BY NAME IN
THE QURAN, BUT MUSLIMS
INTERPRET A REFERENCE TO THE
FURTHEST MOSQUE BEING
al-OXA MOUNT.
THEY ARE PASSIONATE ABOUT
THEIR CONNECTION TO THE
CITY.
THIS IS ALL ARAB TOWN.
Reporter: THEY EVEN
ARGUE AMONG THEMSELVES.
I DON'T THINK IT IS FAIR
TO GIVE --
NEVER, EVER TO GIVE.
JERUSALEM IS ONLY FOR
PALESTINIANS.
NOT PALESTINIANS.
[YELLING]
THEY CAN HAVE THE WAILING
WALL.
Reporter: AS ONE OF THE
MOST CONTESTED PLACES ON
EARTH, THE BIBLE SAYS
JERUSALEM WILL BE BE A
STUMBLING BLOCK TO THE
ENTIRE WORLD.
WE PRAY FOR THE PEACE OF
JERUSALEM.
WHAT ARE WE PRAYING FOR?
THE WORD FOR PEACE IS
SHALOM.
WE'RE PRAYING FOR THAT
COMPLETION, WHEN THE
HEAVENLY AND THE EARTHLY
WILL BE CLEARLY SEEN AS
BEING UNITED.
IT IS NOT A FUTURE EVENT.
IT IS A FUGE REVELATION.
Reporter: DO YOU THINK
IT IS GOING TO HAPPEN IN
YOUR LIFETIME?
I BELIEVE IT WILL.
Reporter: SCOTT ROSS
FOR CBN NEWS, JERUSALEM.
Pat: VERY PERCEPTIVE,
THANK YOU, ROSS.
THERE IS A MYTH THAT THE
ARABS HAVE THAT MOHAMMED
RODE A HORSE, AND THE HORSE
ASCENDED TO HEAVEN.
BUT BEFORE IT GOT TO HEAVEN,
IT WENT, I BELIEVE, FROM
MECCA TO JERUSALEM, AND ITS
HOOF TOUCHED DOWN ON THE
TEMPLE MOUNT AND SPRANG UP
TO HEAVEN.
AYESHA, WHO WAS MOHAMMED'S
FAVORITE WIFE SAYS, WELL, HE
SAID HE WENT TO HEAVEN, BUT
THE TRUTH WAS HE WAS IN BED
WITH ME ALL NIGHT LONG.
[LAUGHTER]
Pat: HE NEVER LEFT.
BY AYESHA -- BUT ON THE
STRENGTH OF THAT SUPPOSED
DREAM, THAT BECOMES THE
SYNAGOGUE, OR THE TEMPLE
FARTHEST AWAY.
AND THEY HAVE ABSOLUTELY NO
CLAIM TO JERUSALEM
WHATSOEVER.
THAT IS FOUNDED IN FACT.
NONE WHATSOEVER.
THIS IS A FANTASY.
IT IS AN ELUTION. ILLUSION.
IT IS A MYTHICAL DREAM THAT
PROBABLY NEVER HAPPENED.
AND THEY BASE IT BY SAYING
JERUSALEM IS THE THIRD MOST
HOLY PLACE IN IRAN.
IT IS NONSENSE.
SO WHAT HAPPENED?
THERE IS A CHURCH ON THE
TEMPLE POINT, EIGHTH CENTURY
CHURCH.
THE MUSLIMS TORE IT DOWN AND
BUILT THE DOME OF THE ROCK,
ON THE PLACE WHERE SOLOMON'S
TEMPLE WAS BUILT.
AND THEY HAVE THE OXAMON,
ALSO ON THE TEMPLE MOUNT.
THE JEWS FOR SOME REASON
ALLOWED THAT TO HAPPEN.
DURING THE SIX-DAY WAR, IT
WOULD HAVE BEEN BETTER IF
THEY HAD TORN THAT THING
DOWN.
IF THEY'RE GOING TO REBUILD
THE TEMPLE OF SOLOMON ON
THAT SITE, THE DOME OF THE
ROCK HAS GOT TO COME DOWN.
BUT IN ANY EVENT, THE NATION
OF THE WORLD WILL FIGHT ON
JERUSALEM.
AND IF YOU READ CAREFULLY
THE BIBLE, THERE IS NO
BATTLE OF ARMAGEDDON.
HAR MOUNT OF MAGEDDO, AND IT
SAYS THE NATIONS GATHER
THERE, BUT THE FINAL BATTLE
IS THE BATTLE OVER
JERUSALEM.
YOU'LL FIND IT IN THE
HEADLINES, JERUSALEM.
I REMEMBER SOME YEARS AGO
TALKING TO NETANYAHU BEFORE
HE BECAME PRIME MINISTER,
AND HE SAID THE STATUS OF
JERUSALEM IS
NON-NEGOTIABLE.
THAT WAS HIS POINT.
OTHER OF HIS SUCCESSORS HAVE
SAID -- OR PREDECESSORS, I
SAY, SAY IT IS NEGOTIABLE.
WHO KNOWS.
BUT THEY'RE GOING TO FIGHT
OVER IT.
TERRY, THAT IS A NICE
PIECE.
Terry: VERY NICE
PEACE.
NETANYAHU IS STILL HOLDING
FAST TO THAT.
Pat: HE SHOULD.
BECAUSE IT IS THE UNDIVIDED
CAPITAL.
THE UNITED STATES CONGRESS
HAS VOTED TO MOVE OUR
EMBASSY TO JERUSALEM.
THE STATE DEPARTMENT HAS
REFUSED TO DO IT.
THEY KEEP OUR ACTIVITIES IN
TEL AVIV BECAUSE THEY DON'T
WANT TO, QUOTE,"UPSET THE
ARABS."
THAT'S FOR YEARS.
THEY OUGHT TO SAY, LOOK,
THIS IS THE CAPITAL.
THIS IS WHERE THE GOVERNMENT
OFFICES OF ISRAEL ARE
LOCATED.
AND WE NEED TO HAVE OUR
EMBASSY THERE.
Terry: IT IS A GREAT
DISRESPECT TO THE JEWISH
PEOPLE.
Pat: IT IS, BECAUSE WE
SAY WE DON'T WANT TO FEAPPED
OFFEND THE ARABS.
YOU WATCH, IN THE LONG
HISTORY THAT WILL BE THE
STUMBLING BLOCK FOR ALL
NATIONS.
Terry: COMING UP, MEET
A MAN WHO WENT TO BED ONE
NIGHT AND WOKE UP IN HELL,
WHERE HE SPENT 23 MINUTES.
BEST-SELLER BILL REESEY
JOINS US NEXT.
AND THEN A SISTER TELLS
ABOUT HER BROTHER.
HE WOKE WHAT HE SAID WAS
HEAVEN, AND HE EXPERIENCED A
PROFOUND, UNEXPLAINABLE
PEACE.
Terry: SEE HOW A VIDEO
ABOUT THIS TEENAGER'S
EXPERIENCE IN HEAVEN GOES
VIRAL.
Pat: WELL, WE'RE COMING
UP ON THANKSGIVING, AND IT
IS NICE TO BE THANKFUL.
IT IS ONE OF THE THINGS YOU
CAN BE THANKFUL OF IS
SOMEBODY SAYS I'M GLAD THAT
I'M LOOKING DOWN ON THE
GRASS, INSTEAD OF LOOKING UP
AT THE ROOTS.
BUT, IN ANY EVENT, WE'RE ALL
JUST A HEARTBEAT AWAY FROM
ETERNITY.
IN AN INSTANT OUR LIVES CAN
BE OVER.
WELL, WHAT HAPPENS NEXT?
IT HAS FASCINATED HUMANS
SINCE THE BEGINNING OF
TIME.
TAKE LOOK.
Reporter: DEATH IS A
TOPIC THAT MOST PEOPLE THINK
ABOUT.
THERE ARE MANY QUESTIONS
AND DIFFERENT BELIEFS ON
WHAT HAPPENS ONCE LIFE IS
OVER.
"NEW YORK TIMES"
BEST-SELLING AUTHOR BILL
REESE HAS FOUND ANSWERS TO
SOME OF THOSE QUESTIONS IN
HIS NEW BOOK, "WHAT HAPPENS
WHEN I DIE."
HE SHARES THIS KNOWLEDGE AND
FIRSTHAND ACCOUNTS OF WHAT
TAKES PLACE IN THE AFTER
LIFE.
Pat: WELL, IT IS
FASCINATING, AND WE WELCOME
BACK TO "THE 700 CLUB" THE
GENTLEMAN WHO HAS BEEN THERE
AND COME BACK.
BILL WEISS.
HIS BOOK IS CALLED "WHAT
HAPPENS WHEN I DIE."
IT HAS FIRSTHAND ACCOUNTS OF
A NUMBER OF PEOPLE WHO HAVE
HAD THIS EXPERIENCE.
IT IS AVAILABLE WHERE BOOKS
ARE SOLD.
BILL, NICE TO SEE YOU.
LET'S HEAR AGAIN THAT
STORY.
YOU WENT TO BED.
YOU WERE A CHRISTIAN.
YOU WEREN'T PARTICULARLY
THINKING ABOUT DYING, AND
ALL OF A SUDDEN SOMETHING
HAPPENED TO YOU.
THANK YOU DR. ROBERTSON,
IT IS AN HONOR TO BE HERE
WITH YOU.
THIS WAS NOT A NEAR-DEATH
EXPERIENCE I HAD.
THIS WAS AN OUT-OF-BODY
EXPERIENCE THAT WOULD BE
CLASSIFIED AS A VISION IN
THE BIBLE, AS 2 CORINTHIANS,
WHERE PAUL WAS CAUGHT UP IN
HEAVEN IN A VISION.
SO GOD GAVE ME A VISION AND
SHOWED ME THIS HORRIBLE
PLACE OF HELL.
Pat: 23 MINUTES IN
HELL.
WHAT DID YOU SEE?
I SAW PRISON CELLS, A
LARGE OPEN AREA, A PIT, A
FIRE, AND I SAW PEOPLE
BURNING IN THIS PRISON, IN
THIS BIG PIT.
THERE WERE DEMONS SHOVING
PEOPLE BACK IN, TORM
TORMENTING PEOPLE.
I SMELLED THE STENCH.
IT IS THE MOST FOUL ODORS
YOU CAN'T IMAGINE.
Pat: THAT IS SO
HORRIBLE.
THE HUMAN MIND CAN'T
COMPREHEND IT.
Reporter: HELL WAS A
PLACE PREPARED FOR THE DEVIL
AND HIS ANGELS.
HE DIDN'T INTEND IT TO GO
FOR PEOPLE.
ALL GOOD COMES FROM GOD.
IN THE PREPARATION, HE
WITHDREW HIS ATTRIBUTES.
HELL IS DARK BECAUSE GOD IS
LIGHT.
THERE IS ONLY HATRED BECAUSE
1 JOHN 4: 16 SAYS GOD IS
LOVE.
AND ON AND ON IT GOES.
Pat: DID YOU SEE A LAKE
OF FIRE?
I SAW A PIT OF FIRE.
Pat: WHAT WAS THAT
LIKE?
RAGING FLAMES INTO THIS
HIGH, OPEN TAVERN.
Pat: WERE PEOPLE IN IT?
YES.
THOUSANDS.
THEY WERE HANGING AND
SCREAMING.
THE SCREAMS ARE SO LOUD YOU
WANT TO GET AWAY FROM THAT,
BUT YOU CAN'T.
YOU HAVE TO ENDURE THAT FOR
ALL OF ETERNITY.
Pat: THE THING THAT
STRIKES YOU WHEN YOU BEGIN
TO READ THIS, THEY TALK
ABOUT EVERLASTING FIRE FOR
EVER AND EVER AND EVER AND
EVER AND EVER.
RIGHT.
Pat: THERE IS NO END.
THERE IS NO END.
ISAIAH 8: 28 SAYS, "THOSE
WHO GO DOWN TO THE PIT,
THERE IS NO TRUTH FOR
THEM."
REVELATION 14: 10-11 SAYS
THE SMOKE OF THEIR TORMENT
EXTENDS FOREVER AND EVER.
Pat: TO THINK THEY WILL
BE TORMENTED WITH THE DEVIL
AND HIS ANGELS FOREVER.
THAT IS SO HORRIBLE.
YOU CAN'T DIE IN THAT DEAL,
CAN YOU?
RIGHT.
THAT'S WHY US AS CHRISTIANS
ARE TO PROCLAIM THE GOSPEL.
JESUS DIED A HORRIBLE DEATH
ON A CROSS TO KEEP US OUT.
HE DOESN'T WANT ONE PERSON
TO GO TO THIS HORRIBLE
PLACE.
BUT BECAUSE HE LOVES US, HE
GIVES US A FREE WILL TO
CHOOSE.
NO ONE IS IN HELL BECAUSE
THEY DIDN'T KNOW.
THEY DECIDED TO PUSH GOD
AWAY.
Pat: WHAT GOT YOU OUT
OF THE THING?
GOD LIFTED ME UP OUT OF
HIS DARK TUNNEL WHERE I SAW
THESE PEOPLE SCREAMING AND
MAGGOTS, AND DEMONS AND
SNAKES.
HE LIFTED ME UP OUT OF HIS
HORRIBLE FACE.
I DIDN'T SEE HIS FACE.
I JUST SAW THE OUTLINE OF A
MAN STANDING IN THE LIGHT.
Pat: WHEN YOU WERE
FINISHED, YOU WERE PRETTY
MUCH SHOOK UP.
IT MUST HAVE TORN YOU UP FOR
DAYS AND MONTHS ON END?
IT DID.
I WAS TERRIFIED.
AND MY SCREAMS WOKE UP MY
WIFE.
AND SHE PRAYED FOR ME, AND
GOD REMOVED THE HORROR FROM
MY MIND.
HAVE THE MEMORY, BUT HE
REMOVED THE HORROR.
Pat: YOU HAVE FIRSTHAND
ACCOUNTS OF PEOPLE WHO DIE?
RIGHT.
BECAUSE THERE ARE A LOT OF
MISCONCEPTIONS ABOUT THE
AFTER LIFE.
THERE IS AN AFTER LIFE,
THERE IS A HEAVEN AND HELL.
I SHARED 34 TRUE STORIES OF
NEAR-DEATH EXPERIENCES OR
CLINICAL DEATH EXPERIENCES
THAT PEOPLE HAVE HAD IN
HOSPITALS.
THAT THEY'VE SEEN HEAVEN OR
HELL, AND WHAT THEY WRITE
ABOUT IT.
Pat: MOST PEOPLE WHO
HAVE BEEN TO HELL, THEY
DON'T REMEMBER IT.
RIGHT.
THAT'S BECAUSE THERE ARE NOT
AS MANY ABOUT HELL AS THERE
IS ABOUT HEAVEN.
BUT THERE ARE QUITE A FEW.
Pat: WHAT DO THEY SAY
ABOUT HEAVEN?
WHAT DO THESE PEOPLE SEE?
SIMILAR THINGS.
THEY SAW THE GATES, THEY SAW
GOLDEN STREETS.
THEY SAW ANGELS.
THEY SAW PEOPLE.
AND THEY SAW FRUIT TREES AND
RIVERS AND SO FORTH.
AND THE THRONE.
SOME SAW THE THRONE OF GOD,
AND SO FORTH.
BUT THEY ALL FELT THIS
OVERWHELMING LOVE AND PEACE,
THAT THEY FELT AT HOME.
MANY SAW THEIR RELATIVES.
Pat: THEY DID SEE
THAT?
RIGHT.
Pat: THEY RECOGNIZED
PEOPLE?
THAT'S WHAT THEY SAY.
AND NONE OF THEM WANTED TO
COME BACK TO EARTH.
THEY ALL WANTED TO STAY.
QUITE THE OPPOSITE OF HELL.
Pat: NO TEARS, NO
SORROW, NONE OF THAT?
NONE OF THAT.
A COMPLETE JOY.
THEY FELT LOVED AND AT
HOME.
Pat: WHAT THESE PEOPLE,
ANY OF THEM STILL CARRYING
THE BAGGAGE FROM EARTH?
OR WOO THA WAS THAT ALL
GONE?
THEY DIDN'T SAY A LOT
ABOUT THAT.
BUT THEY DID HAVE THEIR
MEMORIES, AND THEY THOUGHT
ABOUT THEIR LOVED ONES.
THAT'S ALL THEY REALLY
MENTIONED ABOUT HEAVEN.
NOT THAT MANY HAD A LOT OF
DETAIL IN THAT RESPECT.
BUT THEN YOU'VE GOT THE
OTHERS THAT HAVE SEEN HELL.
Pat: DID THEY IS SEE
THE SAME THING YOU DID?
THEY SAW THE SAME THING,
DEMONS TORMENTING PEOPLE,
THE STENCH, PEOPLE BURNING,
FIRE, SMOKE, MAGGOTS,
SNAKES.
THEY KNEW THEY WERE ALONE.
AND THE DARKNESS -- YOU CAN
ONLY SEE THROUGH THE FLAMES
AND SEE PEOPLE INSIDE THIS
PIT, AND ALONG THE EDGES.
BUT IT IS SO DARK IN HELL.
AND MOST OF THEM TALKED
ABOUT THE STENCH, THE FOUL
ODORS, AND THE SMELL OF
BURNING SULPHUR.
THERE IS NOT ENOUGH AIR TO
BREATHE.
YOU'RE GASPING FOR AIR.
YOU ARE KEPT ALONE.
YOU'RE ISOLATED.
YOU'RE KEPT IN A PIT --
Pat: AND IT'S FOREVER.
RIGHT.
THAT'S WHY IT IS SO HARD FOR
PEOPLE TO GET THEIR MIND
AROUND IT.
THAT'S WHY WE HAVE A LOT OF
FALSE TEACHINGS ABOUT HELL.
THEY SAY EVERYONE GETS
SAVED.
AND THAT'S NOT TRUE.
HELL IS ETERNAL.
THAT'S WHY JESUS WARNED US,
IT IS REAL, JUST LIKE THE
BIBLE SAYS.
ETERNAL FIRE IS MENTIONED
OVER AND OVER.
46 VERSES HE TALKED ABOUT
HELL.
AND 18 VERSES HE TALKS ABOUT
FIRE.
Pat: THERE IS MORE
ABOUT HELL THAN HEAVEN.
WE DON'T TALK ABOUT HELL
TODAY.
PREACHERS DON'T WANT TO
TEACH HELL.
THEY REALLY DON'T.
THEY CAN'T UNDERSTAND WHY A
LOVE GOD ALLOWS HELL.
BUT THEY HAVE TO REMEMBER
THAT IT IS THE SAME GOD WHO
DIED ON THE CROSS TO KEEP US
OUT.
WHAT MORE CAN HE DO?
Pat: LADIES AND
GENTLEMEN, I WANT TO TALK TO
YOU NOW.
I DON'T WANT YOU TO GO TO
HELL.
GOD DOESN'T WANT YOU TO GO
TO HELL.
JESUS DOESN'T WANT YOU TO GO
TO HELL.
THE DEVIL WANTS YOU TO GO TO
HELL.
IT WASN'T INTENDED FOR YOU
TO BE THERE.
IT WASN'T INTENDED FOR YOU
TO BE THERE.
YOU'RE INTENDED TO BE IN
HEAVEN WITH THE LORD
FOREVER.
BUT YOU CAN MAKE A
DECISION.
DO YOU WANT TO CHOOSE.
THIS THING NEVER ENDS.
I WANT TO MAKE IT AS CLEAR
AS I POSSIBLY CAN.
YOU CAN'T DIE.
ONCE YOU'RE THERE, YOU'RE IN
FOREVER.
THERE IS NO CESSATION TO IT,
FOR ALL ETERNITY.
IT IS SO HORRIBLE WE CAN'T
CONCEIVE OF IT.
AND BEFORE WE GET ANOTHER
MINUTE, I WANT TO ASK YOU,
WOULD YOU CHOOSE HELL OR
WOULD YOU CHOOSE HEAVEN?
AND IF YOU WANT HEAVEN,
YOU'VE GOT TO CALL ON
JESUS.
AND YOU'VE GOT TO ALLOW HIM
TO BE YOUR SAVIOR.
YOU'VE GOT TO TURN YOUR LIFE
OVER TO HIM.
AND IF YOU WANT THAT, I'M
GOING TO ASK YOU PLEASE PRAY
WITH ME RIGHT NOW.
PRAY A SIMPLE PRAYER.
MEAN IT FROM YOUR HEART, AND
GOD WILL HEAR IT AND HE WILL
ANSWER.
SO BOW YOUR HEAD AND SAY
THESE WORDS.
MEN AND WOMEN, BOYS AND
GIRLS, DO IT NOW.
JESUS -- PRAY WITH ME.
JESUS, I KNOW YOU DIED ON
THE CROSS THAT I MIGHT NOT
EXPERIENCE HELL.
YOU DIED TO OPEN THE WAY FOR
HEAVEN SO THAT I CAN LIVE
WITH YOU AND THE FATHER
FOREVER.
AND SO, LORD, RIGHT NOW I
CONFESS MY SIN AND I TURN
AWAY FROM SELFISHNESS AND
SIN AND I TURN TO YOU.
AND I ASK YOU, JESUS, COME
INTO MY HEART.
LIVE YOUR LIFE IN ME, AND
FROM THIS MOMENT ON I AM
YOURS.
THANK YOU, JESUS, FOR
HEARING MY PRAYER.
THANK YOU, LORD.
NOW, IF YOU PRAYED WITH ME,
I WANT TO GIVE YOU A LITTLE
PAMPHLET CALLED -- IT'S WHAT
IS GOING TO HAPPEN NEXT.
IT WILL SHOW YOU SOME OF THE
THINGS YOU JUST DID.
"A NEW BEGINNING."
AND YOU CAN CALL RIGHT NOW,
1-800-759-0700.
SAY I PRAYED WITH PAT, AND I
GAVE MY HEART TO THE LORD.
PEOPLE ARE ON THE PHONE
RIGHT NOW.
I WANT YOU TO CALL IN.
AND WE'LL GIVE THIS TO YOU
FREE.
1-800-759-0700.
I JUST PRAYED, I JUST GAVE
THE LORD MY HEART, AND I'M
NOT GOING TO HELL.
WHAT A WAY TO BE THANKFUL.
BILL WEISS BOOK IS CALLED
"WHAT HAPPENS WHEN I DIE."
AND THIS IS AVAILABLE
WHEREVER BOOKS ARE SOLD,
CHRISTIAN BOOKSTORES,
AMAZON, ALL OVER.
YES, EVERYWHERE.
Pat: YOU NEED TO GET
THIS, FOLKS.
YOU NEED TO READ IT.
IT IS CALLED, "WHAT HAPPENS
WHEN I DIE."
BILL, YOU'RE LIKE A PAUL
REVERE SOUNDING A TRUMPET.
MAY GOD BLESS YOU.
IT IS A MESSAGE OF
WARNING.
IT IS A MESSAGE OF LOVE
BECAUSE IT IS A MESSAGE OF
WARNING.
GOD LOVES EVERY PERSON.
HE DOESN'T WANT PEOPLE TO GO
TO HIS HORRIBLE PLACE.
BUT PEOPLE CHOOSE EVERY DAY
TO REJECT JESUS CHRIST AS
OUR LORD AND SAVIOR.
HE DOESN'T WANT THEM TO, BUT
HE CAN'T FORCE THEM BECAUSE
HE IS A GOD OF LOVE.
Pat: WELL, I HOPE MANY,
MANY SAID YES TO HIM.
GOD DOESN'T WANT TO FORCE
YOU TO DO ANYTHING.
BILL WEISS, THANK YOU FOR
BEING HERE.
ONCE AGAIN, THE BOOK "WHAT
HAPPENS WHEN I DIE?"
IS AVAILABLE WHEREVER BOOKS
OR SOLD.
IF YOU PRAYED WITH ME,
PLEASE CALL AND WE'LL SEND
YOU A BOOKLET THAT WILL TELL
YOU WHAT YOU'VE DONE AND
WHAT WILL HAPPEN NEXT.
THERE IT IS, "A NEW DAY."
IT'S 1-800-759-0700.
TERRY, A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE
SAYING YES TO JESUS.
THEY'RE NOT GOING TO HELL.
Terry: I PRAY THAT'S
THE TRUTH, PAT.
OUR LINES ARE OPEN, AND WE
DO HOPE YOU'LL CALL.
STILL AHEAD, HIS NAME IS
BEN, AND HIS YouTube
VIDEO ABOUT HEAVEN WENT
VIRAL.
HE SAYS HE BELIEVES THAT
GOD LET HIM EXPERIENCE THAT
SO HE WOULDN'T BE AFRAID OF
DYING AND SO HE WOULD KNOW
THAT HEAVEN IS WORTH IT.
Terry: FIND OUT WHAT
HAPPENED TO BEN IN HEAVEN,
LATER ON TODAY'S "700
CLUB."
AND WELCOME BACK TO "THE
700 CLUB."÷
A GOVERNMENT OFFICIAL IN
BRITAIN WARNS THAT
CHRISTIANS IN PARTS OF THE
WORLD FACE EXTINCTION
BECAUSE OF THE PERSECUTION
THEY FACE.
THAT OFFICIAL IS A MUSLIM.
SHE SAYS THE BIRTHPLACE OF
CHRISTIANITY, THE PARTS OF
THE WORLD WHERE CHRISTIANITY
FIRST SPREAD, IS NOW SEEING
LARGE SECTIONS OF THE
CHRISTIAN COMMUNITY
LEAVING.
AND THOSE THAT ARE REMAINING
ARE FEELING PERSECUTED.
WORESI CALLED ON LEADERS OF
ALL FAITHS AND GOVERNMENTS
IN THE WEST TO FIGHT THE NEW
SECTARIANISM BREAKING OUT
WORLDWIDE.
THE AIR FORCE ACADEMY HAS
TAKEN MORE STEPS TO COMPLY
WITH THE DEMANDS OF
ATHEISTS.
CBN NEWS ALREADY REPORTED
THEY FORCED THE ACADEMY TO
STOP USING THE PHRASE "SO
HELP ME GOD" IN THE CADET
HONOR OATH.
NOW COMES WORD THAT THE AIR
FORCE HAS GONE EVEN
FURTHER.
OFFICIALS HAVE EVEN REMOVED
THE PHRASE FROM HANDBOOKS
AND REMOVED POSTERS,
INCLUDING THAT PHRASE.
YOU CAN ALWAYS GET THE
LATEST FROM CBN NEWS BY
GOING TO OUR WEBSITE AT
CBNNEWS.COM.
PAT AND TERRY WILL BE BACK
WITH MORE OF "THE 700 CLUB"
RIGHT AFTER THIS.
Terry: TWO YEARS AGO ON
CHRISTMAS DAY, BEN DIED AT
THE AGE OF 18.
AFTER YEARS OF STRUGGLING
WITH AN INCURABLE HEART
CONDITION.
JUST DAYS BEFORE HIS DEATH,
BEN POSTED A VIDEO ON
YouTube. IT QUICKLY
WENT VIRAL, CONVINCING
MILLIONS OF PEOPLE OF WHAT
BEN ALREADY KNEW FIRSTHAND,
THAT HEAVEN IS REAL.
*
WHEN YOUR CHILD IS
DIAGNOSED WITH A SERIOUS
HEART CONDITION, IT KIND OF
MAKES YOU TAKE A BIG
BREATH.
THE WHEELS START TURNING IN
YOUR MIND AND IN YOUR
HEART.
HOW IS THIS GOING TO CHANGE
OUR FAMILY?
HOW IS IT GOING TO CHANGE
BEN'S LIFE?
WHAT ARE HIS CHANCES?
IN HIS THREE-MONTH
CHECKUP, HIS PEDIATRICIAN
HEARD A LITTLE HEART MURMUR,
AND THAT PERSISTED.
SO HE SUGGESTED WE SEE A
CARDIOLOGIST.
THE DOCTOR DIAGNOSED HIM
WITH HYPERTROPHIC
CARDIOMYOPATHY, WHICH IS
BASICALLY A THICK HEART.
ONE OF THE FIRST THINGS
THE DOCTOR EXPLAINED WAS
HE'LL HAVE IT THE REST OF
HIS LIFE AND THAT THERE IS
NO CURE.
WE DECIDED THAT DOESN'T MEAN
BEN'S LIFE IS GOING TO BE
SHORT.
M WHY WORRY ABOUT
SOMETHING TODAY THAT HASN'T
HAPPENED, AND YOU REALLY
DON'T KNOW IF AND WHEN IT
WILL EVER HAPPEN.
WE TURNED TO GOD AND SAID,
GOD, THANK YOU FOR TODAY.
AND THANK YOU FOR GIVING US
THIS BEAUTIFUL LITTLE
CHILD.
* GOD LOVES ME, THIS I
KNOW *
BEN AND I WERE BEST
FRIENDS GROWING UP.
HE IS ONLY A YEAR AND A HALF
YOUNGER THAN I AM.
BEN MADE IT SO HARD TO
REMEMBER HE WAS SUFFERING AT
ALL ON A DAILY BASIS BECAUSE
HE WAS SO HAPPY AND JOYFUL.
WHEN HE WAS A LITTLE BOY,
HE WOULD TELL US HIS HEART
WAS BUMPING.
SOMETIMES HIS HEART WOULD
BEAT FAST.
AND SO THAT WAS HIS CLUE TO
US THAT HE WAS EXPERIENCING
AN ARRHYTHMIA.
THE FIRST TIME HE CHEATED
DEATH WAS WHEN HE WAS FOUR
YEARS OLD.
HE HAD A 45-MINUTE-LONG
SEIZURE AND ALMOST DIDN'T
MAKE IT.
HE SAW A BRIGHT LIGHT THAT
HE KNEW IN HIS HEART WAS AN
ANGEL.
AFTER THAT, HE HAD A TONSIL
SURGERY, WHERE HE HAD HIS
FIRST CARDIAC ARREST.
AND THANKFULLY THEY REVIVED
HIM.
ON DECEMBER 6, AT HIS HIGH
SCHOOL, HE HAD A SECOND
CARDIAC ARREST.
WHEN I GOT TO THE
HOSPITAL, HE WAS VERY
DISORIENTED, BUT HE WAS
TALKING.
SO WE OBVIOUSLY WEREN'T OUT
OF THE WOODS.
BUT I WAS JUST SO THANKFUL
THAT HE HAD MADE IT.
THEN WE UNRAVELED WHAT HAD
HAPPENED.
HIS HEART DID STOP
BEATING FOR A FULL THREE
MINUTES.
DURING THOSE THREE MINUTES
HE HAD A VISION WHERE HE
AWOKE IN WHEN HE DESCRIBED
AS THE WAITING ROOM OF
HEAVEN.
AND SAID HE EXPERIENCED A
PROFOUND, UNEXPLAINABLE
PEACE.
HE WAS STANDING IN FRONT
OF A MIRROR.
HE DIDN'T SEE JUST HIS
REFLECTION.
SHE SAW HIS WHOLE LIFE FLASH
BEFORE HIM.
HE SAYS IT WAS THE BEST
FEELING.
BUT EVEN AFTER HE CAME BACK
FROM THAT EXPERIENCE, HE WAS
STRUGGLING SPIRITUALLY.
HE WAS STRUGGLING WITH
DYING.
I FOUND HIM SITTING OUT
ON OUR DOCK.
AND I ASKED HIM, BEN, WHAT
ARE YOU DOING OUT HERE?
AND HE SAID, WELL, RECENTLY
I'VE BEEN COMING OUT HERE,
BY THE STILLNESS OF THE LAKE
AND THE QUIET, TO ASK GOD
QUESTIONS.
WHAT HAPPENED IN HIS VISION,
HE SAID THAT HE BELIEVES
THAT GOD LET HIM EXPERIENCE
THAT SO HE WOULDN'T BE
AFRAID OF DYING, AND SO HE
WOULD KNOW THAT HEAVEN IS
WORTH IT.
AND SO I ASKED HIM, WERE YOU
HAPPY THAT YOU WOKE UP?
AND HE STARTED CRYING REALLY
HARD.
AND HE SAID, I GUESS.
AND THAT WAS REALLY HARD.
THAT WAS REALLY HARD FOR ME
TO HEAR.
AND SO I TOLD HIM, BEN, I
KNOW YOU MAY NOT WANT TO BE
HERE RIGHT NOW, BUT IT IS
FOR A VERY IMPORTANT
PURPOSE, AND YOUR LIFE IS A
GIFT, AND YOU HAVE TO USE
IT.
AND HE SAID, I THINK YOU'RE
RIGHT.
WE WERE ANXIOUS THAT WE
WEREN'T IN CONTROL.
WE WERE OUT OF CONTROL.
AND HIS CONDITION WAS OUT OF
CONTROL.
WE COULDN'T HELP HIM LIKE WE
WANTED TO.
WE LOOKED AT PHILLIPIANS 4,
6 AND 7, WHERE IT SAYS, "THE
ANXIOUS ARE NOTHING, BUT LET
YOUR REQUEST BE KNOWN TO
GOD.
AND THE PEACE OF GOD THAT
SURPASSES ALL UNDERSTANDING
WILL GUARD YOUR HEART."
I LOOKED UP TO BEN AND I
SAID, BEN, YOU KNOW MORE
ABOUT THIS PEACE OF GOD THAN
WE DO.
WILL YOU TELL US WHAT IT WAS
LIKE?
EXPLAIN IT TO US.
HE SAID, YOU KNOW THAT
PEACE IS SO AMAZING.
IT'S SO HARD TO DESCRIBE.
HE SAID, BUT YOU DON'T HAVE
TO WORRY ABOUT ME.
I'M GOOD BECAUSE I'VE GOT
THAT PEACE THAT IT'S TALKING
ABOUT RIGHT HERE.
CHRISTMAS MORNING FOR OUR
FAMILY MEANS GETTING UP
REALLY EARLY, IN OUR
JAMMIES, OPENING PRESENTS
AND MAKING THAT LAST AS LONG
AS WE CAN.
IT WAS RIGHT AFTER THAT
THAT HE AND HIS BROTHER WENT
OUTSIDE.
I LOOKED OUT OUR KITCHEN
WINDOW, AND I SAW SOME
NEIGHBORHOOD BOYS JUMPING ON
THE TRAMPOLINE, AND VIDEOING
IT, AND HE WAS SMILING
REALLY BIG.
I DIDN'T REALIZE THAT WOULD
BE THE LAST TIME THAT I SAW
THAT SMILE.
AND I LOOKED OUT THE
WINDOW.
HE HAD ALREADY PASSED OUT.
WE RUSHED OUT THERE, AND
WE BEGAN ADMINISTRATING
C.P.R. RIGHT AWAY.
THE AMBULANCE CAME.
AND THINGS WERE FRANTIC AND
CHAOTIC.
SO WE WENT ON TO THE
HOSPITAL.
AND THERE WAS FINALLY A
POINT WHERE THE DOCTOR
CONFIRMED THAT, UM, THAT
THEY DID ALL THEY COULD DO.
WE HAD TO START DEAL WITH
REALITY.
AND THE FACT THAT OUR SON
HAD JUST PASSED AWAY.
ARE YOU GOING TO BELIEVE
EVERYTHING YOU'VE ALWAYS
BELIEVED, THAT THERE IS A
GOD?
THAT THERE IS A HEAVEN?
AND, UM...THAT YOUR SON IS
GOING THERE.
IT WAS HARD TO LEAVE HIM.
BUT YOU KNOW THE TRUTH ABOUT
GOD IS WHAT MAKES THE
DIFFERENCE.
SOME FRIENDS ASKED SEAN
AND I WHAT WE THOUGHT ABOUT
THE VIDEO, AND WE DIDN'T
KNOW WHAT THEY WERE TALKING
ABOUT.
WE SAT DOWN AND WATCHED
THE VIDEO.
AND HE HAS THIS UNBELIEVABLE
SMILE ON HIS FACE, AND YOU
COULD TELL HE SAYS A PEACE.
THE PEACE THAT HE TALKED TO
US ABOUT AND HE PRAYED FOR
US TO HAVE.
JUST A COUPLE OF DAYS
AFTER BEN PASSED AWAY, HIS
VIDEO HAD ALREADY RECEIVED
MILLIONS OF VIEWS.
PEOPLE WERE CONNECTING WITH
IT, AND GOD WAS USING IT TO
REACH THEIR HEARTS.
AND THERE WERE THESE AMAZING
STORIES OF PEOPLE SAYING, I
DIDN'T BELIEVE IN GOD
BEFORE.
I JUST THOUGHT ALL OF THAT
WAS A STORY.
OR I WANT TO KNOW MORE ABOUT
GOD.
WHERE CAN I GO AND FIND
OUT?
AND I FEEL LIKE I HAD A
FRONT ROW SEAT TO GOD'S BIG
PLAN.
IT WAS AMAZING.
HE JUST SIMPLY SAID, THIS IS
MY STORY.
THIS IS WHAT I BELIEVE.
WHAT DO YOU THINK?
I THINK HE WAS BEING
CALLED BACK HOME.
BUT HE HAD A JOB TO DO
BEFORE HE LEFT.
Terry: LIFE IS VERY
TEMPORARY.
YOU KNOW, WE'RE HERE FOR A
BRIEF, BRIEF TIME.
AND WHAT WE DO WITH THIS
LIFE DETERMINES WHERE WE
SPEND ETERNITY.
YOU KNOW, THERE IS SO MUCH
OF LIFE THAT IS OUT OF
CONTROL, JUST AS BEN'S
PARENTS SAID.
THERE ARE SO MANY THINGS
THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO
CONTROL, BUT IN TIME WE FIND
OUT THAT WE CAN'T.
BUT THERE IS ONE THING WE
CAN CONTROL, EACH AND EVERY
ONE OF US.
WE CAN CHOOSE.
WE CAN CHOOSE.
WILL WE CHOOSE JESUS?
WILL WE CHOOSE GOING OUR OWN
WAY?
WILL WE CHOOSE JUST
SUFFERING THROUGH LIFE AND
NOT KNOWING WHERE WE'RE
SPENDING ETERNITY?
WHEN GOD SETS BEFORE US THE
OPPORTUNITY TO SAY YES.
YOU KNOW, THERE IS SO MUCH
AROUND US THAT DECLARES WHO
HE IS, THE WONDER OF HIS
LOVE, THE GOODNESS OF HIS
CHARACTER.
THE WORLD THAT WE LIVE IN,
THE ORDER OF THINGS.
SOMEBODY HAD TO THINK OF
THAT.
ASK GOD TO REVEAL HIMSELF TO
YOU.
PAT ASKED YOU A FEW MOMENTS
AGO TO PRAY AND INVITE
CHRIST INTO YOUR LIFE.
TODAY IS A DAY OF GOD
SPEAKING TO YOU.
IT IS NOT CHANCE THAT YOU'RE
WATCHING THIS PROGRAM OR
HEARING THESE STORIES.
ONE OF THE TERROR AND HORROR
OF HELL, AND THE OTHER OF
THE WONDER AND THE PEACE AND
THE CERTAINTY OF HEAVEN.
AND IT ALL HINGES ON YOUR
DECISION.
YOU SEE, GOD HAS ALREADY
MADE THE DECISION FOR YOU
AND FOR ME.
HE SENT JESUS.
THE PATH IS CLEAR.
THE DOOR IS OPEN.
THE QUESTION IS: WILL YOU
EXCEPT IT?
WILL YOU RECEIVE HIM?
IT REALLYIN REALLY TRULY IS
THAT SIMPLE.
IT IS ACKNOWLEDGING THAT
YOU, LIKE ME, LIKE ALL OF
US, ARE A SINNER IN NEED OF
A SAVIOR.
IT IS WHY JESUS CAME.
THERE WAS A SACRIFICE MADE
THAT PAID FOR ALL OF US.
EVERY SINGLE ONE WHO WOULD
SAY YES TO HIM.
AND THAT SACRIFICE CAME WITH
THE PROMISE OF ETERNAL
LIFE.
NOT JUST EAT TERNA ETERNAL
LIFE, BUT THE PRESENCE AND
THE LOVE AND THE POWER OF
GOD.
GOD IS NO RESPECTER OF
PERSONS, BUT HE SAYS WHAT HE
HAS GONE TO PREPARE FOR US,
THIS HEAVEN HE HAS PROMISED
US, IS BEYOND ANYTHING WE
COULD HOPE FOR OR IMAGINED.
AND YET IT IS YOURS.
IT IS FREE FOR THE ASKING.
WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO
WITH IT?
INVITE JESUS CHRIST INTO
YOUR LIFE.
THERE IS A NUMBER THAT WILL
COME UP ON YOUR SCREEN.
IF YOU WOULD LIKE SOMEONE TO
PRAY WITH YOU TODAY, MAYBE
TAKE YOU THROUGH THE
SCRIPTURES TO ANSWER MORE
QUESTIONS, OUR NUMBER IS THE
IS TOLL-FREE,
1-800-759-0700.
PRAY THAT PRAYER, THE PAT
TALKED ABOUT, ACKNOWLEDGING
JESUS THAT YOU ARE THE
SAVIOR OF MY SOUL, AND TODAY
I WANT TO MAKE YOU THE LORD
OF MY LIFE.
THEN CALL THAT NUMBER AND
SAY, I WOULD LIKE THE "NEW
DAY" PACKET.
PUT TOGETHER JUST FOR YOU.
HOW DO YOU GROW IN YOUR
FAITH?
HOW DO YOU COME TO FORM A
REAL RELATIONSHIP WITH THE
LIVING GOD?
HE IS RIGHT THERE WAITING
FOR YOU.
SAY YES TODAY.
WE'RE GOING TO BE BACK WITH
MORE OF "THE 700 CLUB" AFTER
THIS.
SO STAY WITH US.
IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO KNOW
MORE ABOUT BEN'S STORY, HIS
SISTER, ALI, HAS WRITTEN A
STORY CALLED "WHEN WILL
HEAVEN BEGIN."
UP NEXT, WE'LL "BRING IT
ON."
Pat: WELL, YOU SEE ADS
FOR BLACK FRIDAY.
THAT MEANS WHEN THEY GET
INTO THE BLACK, THEY'RE
SELLING SO MUCH THEY'RE NOT
IN THE RED.
THEY'RE IN THE BLACK.
AND THEN WE HAVE
CYBER-MONDAY, AND PEOPLE ARE
BUYING ON LINE.
AND THEY'RE RIGHT AROUND THE
CORNER.
BUT THE BEST DEAL MAY COME
ON A DIFFERENT DAY.
IT'S CALLED "GIVE BACK
TUESDAY."
AND ANY CONTRIBUTION YOU
MAKE TO CBN FROM NOW UNTIL
NEXT TUESDAY IS GOING TO BE
MATCHED, DOUBLED.
OUR PARTNERS HAVE SAID THEY
WILL MATCH DOLLAR FOR DOLLAR
EVERY DONATION YOU MAKE
BETWEEN NOW AND TUESDAY.
Terry: WOW, THAT'S A
DEAL.
Pat: IT IS.
SO IF YOU GIVE $100, THEY'LL
GIVE $100.
AND IF YOU GIVE A THOUSAND,
THEY'LL GIVE A THOUSAND.
AND IF YOU GIVE $10,000,
THEY'LL GIVE $10,000.
Terry: THAT'S A DEAL.
SO PEOPLE DO THAT BY
CALLING?
Pat: ABSOLUTELY.
MAKE A PLEDGE.
Terry: TIME TO ANSWER
SOME E-MAIL.
THIS IS TAMMY WHO SAYS, "SO
WE GO TO HEAVEN WHEN WE DIE,
RIGHT?
HOW COME PAUL TALKS ABOUT US
BEING' ASLEEP ALL OF THE
TIME'."
AND SO I HEARD PEOPLE SAY
OUR BODIES ARE IN A STATE OF
SLEEP UNTIL THE
RESURRECTION.
SO WHAT GIVES?"
Pat: PAUL SAYS THEY
SLEEP IN RESURRECTION, BUT
HE IS TALKING ABOUT DEATH.
THE IDEA OF SOUL SLEEP IS
NOT BIBLICAL WHATSOEVER.
Terry: THIS IS WINSTON
WHO SAYS, "JESUS SAID NO MAN
HAS SEEN GOD.
BUT MOSES SAW GOD.
I DON'T GET IT."
Pat: WELL, YOU KNOW,
ELIJAH WAS A PROPHET.
HE WENT INTO A CAVE AND
GOD'S POWER CAME BEFORE
HIM.
AND AT THE END, GOD SAID,
NOW, YOU COVER YOUR FACE
BECAUSE ALL I'M GOING TO LET
YOU SEE IS MY BACKSIDE.
YOU'RE NOT GOING TO SEE MY
FACE.
I'M JUST GOING TO WALK
THROUGH, AND YOU LOOK AT THE
BACK.
I THINK THAT JESUS SAID
NOBODY HAS SEEN THE FATHER
BUT THE SON, WHO CAME FROM
THE FATHER.
AND THE GLORY OF GOD -- WHEN
YOU BEGIN TALKING ABOUT
THESE SPIRITUAL THINGS,
WE'RE DEALING WITH MYSTERIES
THAT WE DON'T REALLY
COMPREHEND.
SO TO SPEND TIME PARSING
EACH THING LIKE THIS, I
THINK IS A FRUITLESS
ENDEAVOR.
I DON'T MEAN TO PUT YOU
DOWN, BUT I THINK YOU CAN
WASTE A LOT OF TIME AND
THINGS THAT REALLY AREN'T
GOING TO AFFECT THE WAY YOU
LIVE.
AS FAR AS I KNOW, HE SAID
NOBODY HAS SEEN THE FATHER.
WHAT DID MOSES SAY?
HE CAME OFF THE MOUNTAIN
WITH HIS FACE SHINING.
BUT DID HE LOOK STRAIGHT AT
THE FATHER?
WAS HE IN THE GLORY OF GOD?
WAS HE SURROUNDED BY THE
SICANA GLORY?
THE BIBLE DOESN'T SAY HE
STARED GOD IN THE FACE.
IT DOESN'T SAY THAT.
HE CAME OFF THE MOUNTAIN AND
HE WAS GLOWING.
Terry: THIS IS SEAN WHO
SAYS, CTRL+I , "I FELL IN
LOVE WITH A CHURCH GIRL.
UNFORTUNATELY THINGS DIDN'T
WORK OUT FOR US AND WE BROKE
UP.
I HAVE ASKED GOD TO TAKE
AWAY THE PAIN FROM THAT
RELATIONSHIP, BUT IT
REMAINS.
TO MAKE MATTERS WORSE, I SEE
HER AT CHURCH EVERY WEEK.
SHOULD I FIND A NEW
CHURCH?"
Pat: I CAN'T TELL YOU
TO FIND A NEW CHURCH.
YOU MUST REALLY HAVE BEEN IN
LOVE.
IT MUST HAVE BEEN A VERY
PAINFUL SEPARATION.
AND I'M SORRY FOR YOU.
BUT I THINK TO KEEP -- IT'S
LIKE YOU'VE GOT A WOUND AND
YOU KEEP TEARING THE SCAB
OFF.
I THINK YOU MIGHT FIND
ANOTHER CHURCH AND GET ON
WITH LIFE BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY
YOU'RE RELIVING THAT.
AND YOU LOVE THIS WOMAN.
THIS CHURCH GIRL.
AND IT MUST BE VERY
PAINFUL.
Terry: I'M SURE IT IS.
Pat: SO I'M SORRY.
Terry: THAT'S A
PERSONAL DECISION.
Pat: YEAH, IT IS A
PERSONAL DECISION.
GO SOME PLACE ELSE.
GO TO THE METHODIST CHURCH.
[LAUGHTER]
Terry: WHERE DID THAT
COME FROM?
Pat: YOU HAVE TO GO
SOME PLACE.
WE HAVE MUCH MORE FAITHFUL
GIRLS.
Terry: NOT THAT THIS
GIRL ISN'T --
Pat: I'M ONLY KIDDING.
PLEASE.
WE LEAVE YOU WITH THESE
WORDS FROM THE LAST BLESSING
FROM PROVERBS, CHAPTER 3.
"FEAR THE LORD AND DEPART
FROM EVIL.
IT WILL BE HEALTH TO YOUR
FLESH AND STREN T STRENGTH
TO YOUR BONES."
FEAR THE LORD, HEALTH AND
STRENGTH.
THAT'S TODAY'S LAST
BLESSING.
WELL, ON WEDNESDAY ON "THE
700 CLUB," THE MIRACLES
BEHIND THE FIRST
THANKSGIVING.
AND PLUS WE'LL TAKE YOU
BEHIND THE -- WELL, WHAT
WILL WE DO?
Terry: THE MACY'S DAY
PARADE IS GOING TO BE FUN.
Pat: ARE WE GOING TO
SHOW THE BACKGROUND?
WE'LL SEE YOU THEN.
BYE-BYE.