Ultimate Fighter Justin Wren struggled with low self esteem even after achieving his dream of becoming a professional fighter. Plus, Brett Fuller shares his experience of being the chaplain for the Washington Redskins.
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THEY WERE BIG, THEY WERE
STRONG.
Wendy: INSIDE THE
OPTAGONE.
THIS IS HOW I WILL LEARN
TO STICK UP FOR MYSELF AND
TO FIGHT BACK.
Wendy: THE U.F.C. STAR
THEY CALLED THE VIKING.
NOBODY IN THIS WORLD KNEW
HOW WORTHLESS I FELT.
Wendy: HOW THIS
ULTIMATE FIGHTER MET HIS
MATCH.
HE STARTED SPEAKING MY
LANGUAGE.
BRO, YOU CAN'T WIN THIS
FIGHT ALONE.
Wendy: ON TODAY'S "700
CLUB."
[APPLAUSE]
Pat: WELCOME TO THIS
EDITION OF "THE 700 CLUB."
TODAY IS ELECTION DAY IN
SEVERAL STATES.
IT IS A REFERENDUM IN
VIRGINIA ON THE OBAMACARE
HEALTH PROGRAM.
IT LOOKS LIKE THE HEALTH
CARE FIASCO IS HAVING A
HEAVY TOLL ON THE RATEINGS
OF THE PRESIDENT.
A GROWING NUMBER OF PEOPLE
ARE ANGRY AND LOSING THEIR
HEALTH INSURANCE.
Terry: UNDERSTANDABLY.
ABOUT 3.5 MILLION PEOPLE
HAVE GOTTEN CANCELLATION
NOTICES.
NOW THE MEMBERS OF CONGRESS
ARE TRYING TO REPAIR THE
DAMAGE FROM OBAMACARE.
Reporter: WITH GROWING
CRITICISM OF PRESIDENT
OBAMA'S PROMISE IF YOU LIKE
YOUR PLAN YOU CAN KEEP IT,
NOW LAWMAKERS FROM BOTH
PARTIES ARE STEPPING IN TO
SEE THAT THE PRESIDENT'S
PROMISE IS KEPT.
TWO MEASURES ARE IN THE
WORKS THAT
WOULD
ALLOW
CONSUMERS TO KEEP THEIR
COVERAGE IF THEY LIKE IT.
AND OBAMACARE HAS BECOME A
KEY ISSUE IN THE VIRGINIA
GOVERNOR'S CASE.
REPUBLICAN KEN CUCCINEL
CUCCINELLIP.
IT IS A GREAT DRIVING
FORCE.
Reporter: BOTH THE
PRESIDENT AND VICE PRESIDENT
ARE FIGHTING HARD FOR CUCCE
EELLI'S SIDE.
THE OTHER SIDE WILL
GENERATE EVERY KEY PARTY
SYMPATHIZER IN THIS STATE.
THEY WILL SHOW UP.
SO IT IS ALL UP TO YOU.
Reporter: BUT THE
PRESIDENT HIMSELF IS NOT
POPULAR AT THE MOMENT.
THE OBAMACARE CONTROVERSY IS
CREATING POLITICAL FALLOUT
FOR THE PRESIDENT AND THE
DEMOCRATIC PARTY.
THE APPROVAL RATING HAS
TAKEN A HIT.
ACCORDING TO THE LATEST
GALLOP SURVEY, THE PRESIDENT
HAS A 53% DISAPPROVAL
RATING.
40% APPROVE.
AND BACK IN WASHINGTON, SOME
CRITICS ARE STEPPING UP
THEIR ATTACKS ON THE
PRESIDENT.
A FORMER SPEECH WRITER FOR
THE SECOND PRESIDENT BUSH
WROTE IN THE "WASHINGTON
POST": "THE PRESIDENT SAID
IF YOU LIKE YOUR HEALTH CARE
PLAN, YOU WILL BE ABLE TO
KEEP YOUR HEALTH CARE PLAN,
PERIOD.
THIS WAS A PREMEDITATED
DECEPTION.
THIS WAS A LINE IN THE
PRESIDENTIAL SPEECH THAT WAS
CAREFULLY REVIEWED BY THE
ENTIRE WHITE HOUSE SENIOR
STAFF."
OBAMA'S ADVISOR TOLD THE
"WALL STREET JOURNAL" THAT
THEY KNEW THESE 16 WORDS
WERE UNTRUE, BUT OBAMA KEPT
SAYING THEM OVER AND OVER
AGAIN.
IF THAT'S THE CASE, OBAMA
DIDN'T MISSPEAK, HE LIED.
EPHRAIM GRAHAM, CBN NEWS.
Pat: IT IS A TERRIBLE
THING WHEN YOU DON'T TRUST
THE LEADERSHIP, AND I THINK
THAT IS WHAT IS HAPPENING.
WHEN A PRESIDENT LOSES
TRUST, HE IS GONE.
HIS WORD DOESN'T AMOUNT TO
ANYTHING.
WE HAVE A MAN WHO
DELIBERATELY LIED TO GET HIS
PROGRAM THROUGH.
HE WAS SO COMMITTED TO THIS
SOCIALIST AGENDA, HE WAS
GOING TO TELL ANYTHING, SAY
ANYTHING, TRUE OR FALSE, IN
ORDER TO GET IT PASSED.
SO THAT'S WHAT IS
HAPPENING.
WE'VE GOT A VERY FASCINATING
STORY COMING UP.
TERRY, LET ME ASK YOU, WOULD
YOU GO INTO A STRIP CLUB TO
DEAL WITH THE DANCERS AND BE
NICE TO THEM, OR WOULD YOU
STAY OUT?
Terry: H'MMM, I'D HAVE
TO THINK ABOUT THAT.
I WOULD HAVE TO HEAR FROM
THE LORD ON THAT ONE.
Pat: WE HAVE A PASTOR'S
WIFE WHO HEARD FROM THE
LORD.
IT IS A FASCINATING STORY
THAT IS COMING UP ON THIS
PROGRAM LATER ON, SO YOU
DON'T WANT TO MISS IT.
THE PRESIDENT HAS ALSO TAKEN
ACTION ON GLOBAL WARMING.
BUT THAT MIGHT NOT BE
NECESSARY, EITHER.
JOHN JESSUP HAS THAT STORY
FROM THE CBN NEWS ROOM.
HERE IS JOHN.
Reporter: PAT, THE
RECENT PAUSE IN GLOBAL
WARMING COULD LAST FOR
ANOTHER COUPLE OF DECADES,
AND EVEN LONGER.
THE WORLD'S AVERAGE SURFACE
TEMPERATURE HAS NOT GONE UP
SINCE THE LATE 1990s.
THE LONDON DAILY MAIL
REPORTS NEW RESEARCH SHOWS
NATURAL CYCLES HAVE PLAYED A
MAJOR ROLE IN RISING AND
FALLING TEMPERATURES, AND
COULD EXPLAIN BY RISING
TEMPERATURES FROM MAN MADE
GLOBAL WARMING ARE WRONG.
IT IS DESIGNED TO HAVE
FEDERAL AGENCIES, ALONG WITH
STATE AND LOCAL GOVERNMENTS,
WORK TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO
RESPOND TO DRASTIC WEATHER
CAUSED BY GLOBAL WARMING.
AN AMERICAN PASTOR
IMPRISONED IN IRAN IS SAID
TO BE FACING
LIFE-THREATENING CONDITIONS
AFTER A RECENT PRISON
TRANSFER.
SAEED ABEDINI HAS BEEN MOVED
TO A PRISON KNOWN TO BE EVEN
MORE DANGEROUS THAN EVAN
PRISON, WHERE SAEED WAS
PREVIOUSLY JAILED.
PASTOR SAEED IS IN AWARD
WITH MEN CONVICTED OF THINGS
LIKE RAPE AND MURDER.
FAMILY MEMBERS TRIED TO
VISIT HIM MONDAY, BUT WERE
TURNED AWAY.
FOR MORE, LOG ON TO OUR
WEBSITE, CBNNEWS.COM.
MINNESOTA IS A LEADING
FIGHTER AGAINST HUMAN
TRAFFICKING AND IT COULD
SOON INFLUENCE OTHER STATES
ACROSS THE COUNTRY.
AT A BREAKFAST FUNDRAISER, A
DEMOCRAT SENATOR ANNOUNCED
PLANS TO INTRODUCE
LEGISLATION TO THE U.S.
SENATE.
THEY SAY ST. PAUL IS SETTING
AN EXAMPLE AND DECREASING
THE DEMAND BY ARRESTING MORE
THAN 200 MEN THIS YEAR FOR
EXCHANGING SEX FOR MONEY.
THE STATE ALSO PARTNERS WITH
ORGANIZATIONS THAT HELP AND
IDENTIFY WOMEN AND CHILDREN
AS VICTIMS, NOT CRIMINALS.
THE AUDIENCE AT THIS
BREAKFAST SHEARED FROM ONE
OF THOSE VICTIMS.
I'M 42 TODAY, AND I
STARTED AT 16.
AND I JUST RECENTLY GOT OUT
OF THE LIFE FOUR MONTHS
AGO.
( applause ).
I THOUGHT THIS WAS WHAT I
WAS GOING TO BE DOING FOR
THE REST OF MY LIFE, UNTIL I
WAS IN MY CASKET, BURIED.
Reporter: MINNESOTA
HOTELS ARE ALSO PART OF THE
FIGHT.
THEY MAKE ROUTINE PHONE
CALLS TO POLICE TO REPORT
ANY STRANGE ACTIVITY.
PAT, AS YOU STATED IN THE
PAST, THIS IS A BLIGHT ON
HUMANITY.
Pat: IT IS A SHOCKING
THING, THE TRAFFICKING IN
WOMEN.
IF THERE IS ANYTHING
APPROPRIATE FOR THE DEATH
PENALTY, THEN IT IS THESE
PEOPLE WHO ARE ENGAGED IN
TREATING WOMEN AS OBJECTS
AND ANIMALS.
THE INTERESTING THING ABOUT
MINNESOTA, THEY HAVE THESE
VERY BEAUTIFUL,
BLONDE-HEADED, NORDIC GIRLS,
AND THEY WERE HIGHLY
PRIZED.
AND SO YEARS AGO WE DID A
THING ON TRAFFICKING, AND IT
WAS TRAFFICKED FROM
MINNESOTA INTO CHICAGO, AND
THESE PIMPS WOULD PICK THEM
UP --
Terry: I REMEMBER
THAT.
Pat: YOU REMEMBER
THAT?
THE WHOLE IDEA OF A BLONDE,
SWEDISH, NORWEGIAN-TYPE WAS
VERY HIGHLY SOUGHT.
AS I RECALL, ONE OF THE
LEADING PRO FOOTBALL PLAYERS
WAS INVOLVED IN SOME OF THAT
STUFF.
IT WAS QUITE A -- WE HAD A
MEMBER OF THE VICE SQUAD
FROM MINNESOTA TALKING ABOUT
SOME OF THESE THINGS, AND IT
WAS SHOCKING.
SO I CONGRATULATE THE
SENATOR ON THIS ACTION.
AND I HOPE OTHERS WILL DO
THE SAME THING.
WE'VE GOT TO STOP IT.
IT IS JUST SOMETHING THAT WE
CANNOT ALLOW.
IN A SOCIETY SUCH AS OURS.
WE MUST GO ON THE WAR PATH,
I SHOULD SAY, AGAINST HUMAN
TRAFFICKING.
WHETHER IT IS IN THE UNITED
STATES, INDIA, OR CHINA, OR
WHEREVER IT IS AROUND THE
WORL.
WE'VE GOT TO SEE IT
STOPPED.
JOHN?
Reporter: CHAOS ERUPTED
MONDAY IN THE COURTROOM OF
EGYPT'S FIRST ELECTED
PRESIDENT.
MOHAMMED MORSI FACES CHARGES
OF MURDER AND INSIGHTING
VIOLENCE.
GEORGE THOMAS BRINGS US THIS
REPORT FROM EGYPT.
George: IT IS HARD TO
IMAGINE MORE THAN TWO AND A
HALF YEARS AGO IN THIS
FAMOUS SPOT, THE FAMOUS
TAHRIR SQUARE BECAME THE
EPICENTER FOR TENS OF
THOUSANDS OF EYPTIANS, WHO
WERE CHANTING, CALLING FOR
FREEDOM.
CALLING FOR THE REMOVAL OF
HOSNI MUBARAK.
THIS WEEK, ANOTHER TURN
EVENTS IN THIS NATION, THE
TRIAL OF MOHAMMED MORSI AND
14 TOP LIEUTENANTS IN THE
MUSLIM BROTHERHOOD.
EYPTIANS SAW MORSI FOR THE
FIRST TIME SINCE HIS REMOVAL
FOUR MONTHS AGO.
HE STRUCK A DEFIANT TONE THE
MOMENT HE ENTERED THE
COURTROOM.
"I AM THE LEGITIMATE
PRESIDENT OF THE PUBLIC.
I AM HERE AGAINST MY WILL."
HE EVEN REFUSED TO WEAR A
PRISON UNIFORM.
INSTEAD, WORE A DARK SUIT.
HE IS THE HEAD OF THIS
COURT.
HE REFUSES TO WEAR THE
DEFENDANT'S CLOTHES BECAUSE
HE IS NOT A DEFENDANT.
George: MORSI AND 14
OTHER MUSLIM BROTHERHOOD
MEMBERS COULD FACE THE DEATH
PENALTY IF CONVICTED.
THE TRIAL SPARKED PROTEST
ACROSS THE CITY.
THIS IS A SHOW TRIAL.
WE ARE TELLING THE JUDGES OF
EGYPT NOT TO TAKE PART IN
THIS TRIAL.
George: MORSI WAS
EGYPT'S FIRST
DEMOCRATICALLY-ELECTED
PRESIDENT.
BUT AFTER JUST ONE YEAR IN
OFFICE, EYPTIANS AR HAVE
HAD ENOUGH OF HIM.
THEIR POWERFUL ARMY REMOVED
HIM FROM OFFICE.
THE MUSLIM BROTHERHOOD
FAILED TO COME UP WITH ANY
GOOD PUBLI POLITICAL OR
ECONOMIC SOLUTIONS.
INSTEAD, THEY TRIED TO TURN
EVERYBODY ISLAMIC.
George: AUTHORITIES
HAVE THROWN THOUSANDS OF
BROTHERHOOD MEMBERS IN
JAIL.
HUNDREDS OF PRO-MORSI
SUPPORTERS HAVE BEEN
KILLED.
NOW THERE IS CONCERN THAT
EGYPT IS TURNING INTO A
MILITARY DICTATORSHIP.
THE POLITICAL DIRECTION
OF OUR COUNTRY IS TURNING
MORE MILITARY.
AS LONG AS THE ARMY IS
RULING EGYPT, THE CURRENT
PRESIDENT DOES NOT REPRESENT
US.
George: MEANWHILE, SOME
20,000 SECURITY FORCES ARE
ON THE STREETS TO PREVENT
ANY POTENTIAL UNREST.
GEORGE THOMAS, CBN NEWS.
Reporter: BACK HERE AT
HOME, THE SENATE IS MOVING
AHEAD WITH A GAY RIGHTS
BILL, BUT THE MEASURE
DOESN'T LOOK LIKE IT HAS ANY
FUTURE IN THE
HOUSE.
THE BILL IS CALLED ENDA.
IT WILL BAN DISCRIMINATION
AT WORK BASED ON SEXUAL
ORIENTATION OR GENDER
IDENTITY.
54 DEMOCRATS AND 7
REPUBLICANS CLEARED THE BILL
ON MONDAY.
BUT HOUSE SPEAKER JOHN
BOEHNER OPPOSES IT, MAKING
IT UNLIKELY THE HOUSE WILL
TAKE IT UP.
BOEHNER SAYS IT WILL CREATE
FRIVOLOUS
LAWSUITS.
THE BILL WOULD GRANT SPECIAL
STATUS TO GAY, LESBIAN, AND
TRANSGENDER PEOPLE.
RESEARCHERS FROM HARVARD AND
FRANCE FOUND THAT PEOPLE WHO
FOLLOWED THE MEDITERRANEAN
DIET HAD A BETTER CHANCE OF
LIVING PAST 70 WITHOUT
PHYSICAL OR MENTAL ISSUES.
THEY STUDIED 10,000 PEOPLE
OVER 15 YEARS.
THEY STAYED HEALTHY AND
DIDN'T HAVE DISEASES LIKE
CANCER, STROKE, HEART
DISEASE, AND DIABETES.
IT CONSISTS OF VEGETABLES,
WHOLE GRAINS, BEANS, NUTS,
AND OLIVE OIL.
PAT, I DON'T KNOW ABOUT YOU,
BUT ALL OF THIS TALK ABOUT
FOOD IS MAKING ME HUNGRY.
Pat: I HAD A LITTLE
CEREAL THIS MORNING.
Terry: YOU'RE GOOD TO
GO.
Pat: AND ANTI-
ANTI-OXIDANT BERRIES.
DO YOU DO THIS MEDITERRANEAN
STUFF?
Terry: IT IS HEALTHY
LIVING IN GENERAL.
IT IS NOT REAL STRINGENT,
BUT I THINK A LOT OF US TRY
TO DO IT.
Pat: YOU SEE ONE OF THE
DIET COMPANIES PUSHING THAT,
BUT THAT'S WHAT IT AMOUNTS
TO.
IT'S WHITE FLOUR, SUGAR,
SWEETS OF ALL KINDS, AND
PROCESSED FOOD, AND THEN
TRANS-FATS.
AND THEN YOU GO DOWN THE
LIST, AND A LOT OF RED MEAT
IS A PROBLEM, TOO.
SO IT'S NOT TOO STRENUOUS.
AND I REALLY LIKE NUTS.
Terry: I KNOW YOU DO.
Pat: I LIKE OATMEAL.
Terry: YOU'RE KIND OF A
LIGHT EATER.
YOU DON'T REALLY EAT LARGE
MEALS.
Pat: THE LORD HAS TOOK
MY APPETITE AWAY, AND AS A
RESULT I LOST ABOUT 35,
40 POUNDS.
SO IT IS REAL EASY.
Terry: SPEAKING OF THE
LORD, HERE ARE SOME WORDS
YOU WOULD NEVER EXPECT TO
HEAR FROM GOD: GO TO A STRIP
CLUB.
ONE WOMAN HEEDED THAT CALL,
AND THAT'S NEXT.
*
Pat: THERE WAS ONCE A
PROPHET, AND HIS NAME WAS
JONAH, AND GOD SAID TO HIM,
GO TO NINEVEH AND PREACH.
AND JONAH, NO WAY.
I'M NOT ABOUT TO GO TO THAT
WICKED CITY.
I'M GOING TO GO TO
TARSHISH.
AND SO HE GOT ON A SHIP, AND
THE NEXT THING YOU KNOW, THE
SHIP CRASHED AND THEY THREW
HIM OVER BOARD, AND FISH GOT
HIM AND SPIT HIM OUT.
YOU KNOW THAT'S THE STORY OF
JONAH AND THE WHALE.
IN ANY EVENT, WHAT WOULD
HAPPEN IF GOD SAID GO TO
SOME STRANGE PLACE.
ONE DAY ERIN STEVENS FELT
GOD SPEAKING TO HER, AND
SAID GO SOMEWHERE SHE HAD
NEVER GONE BEFORE.
AND REACH OUT TO PEOPLE SHE
HAD NEVER MET.
AS PAUL STRAND REPORTS, IT
WAS A TRULY LIFE-CHANGING
EXPERIENCE.
Reporter: LAST YEAR
ERIN STEVENS, A TENNESSEE
PASTOR'S WIFE, HEARD A
SURPRISE FROM GOD AT THE END
OF A 21-DAY FAST.
I FELT IN MY SPIRIT GOD
SAY, GO FEED THE STRIP
STRIPPERS.
I KNEW IT WAS FROM HIM,
BECAUSE WHY WOULD I THINK
THAT?
I HAD NEVER BEEN TO A STRIP
CLUB.
Reporter: BUT SHE WROTE
IN DOWN IN HER JOURNAL AND
PICKED UP THE PHONE.
I CALLED THE GENERAL
MANAGER OF THE LARGEST STRIP
CLUB AND SAY, I WOULD LIKE
TO FEED YOUR GIRLS.
I'M NOT GOING TO PREACH.
Reporter: NASHVILLE IS
KNOWN AS THE COUNTRY MUSIC
MECCA, BUT STILL THERE IS A
DARK SIDE THAT HAS STRIP
CLUBS.
THEY WERE JUST OPEN
ARMS.
CAN YOU COME NEXT THURSDAY.
WE'D LOVE TO HAVE YOU.
Reporter: A FEW MONTHS
IN, SHE AND HER
HOME-SCHOOLED SONS BEGAN
MAKING GOODIE BAGS FOR THE
GIRLS, BUT NO PREACHING.
WE JUST TALKED TO THE
GIRLS ABOUT THEIR LIVES.
Reporter: SHE WAS
DETERMINED TO FEED THE
GIRLS, NOT SEEING MUCH
FRUIT, UNTIL ONE YOUNG GIRL
WHO LIVED HERE, IN ANTIOCH,
TENNESSEE, MADE ALL OF THE
EFFORT SEEM WORTHWHILE.
THAT WAS KATHRYN.
SHE IS GOING TO PREACH TO
ME OR HAND ME ONE OF THOSE
TRACKS THAT SAYS HELL AND
DAMNATION, AND THIS IS HOW
TO GO TO HEAVEN.
AND HERE IS A BIBLE.
GO PRAY.
SOMETHING.
AND SHE DIDN'T.
Reporter: BUT ONE
SPECIFIC VISIT REALLY ROCKED
KATHRYN'S WORLD.
ONE DAY SHE BROUGHT MARY
KAY PRACTICES.
AND SHE HAD TEARS IN HER
EYES.
SHE SAID WHAT YOU'VE GIVEN
ME YOU'LL NEVER KNOW.
I'VE BEEN A LIFE-LONG USER
OF MARY KAY, AND I CAN'T
AFFORD IT ANYMORE.
AND THIS WAS
EXTRAORDINARY.
WHY ARE YOU GIVING US STUFF
AND YOU'RE NOT PREACHING.
AND I LOOKED AT HER AND I
SAID BECAUSE YOUR VALUABLE
TO GOD AND YOU'RE VALUABLE
TO ME.
Reporter: KATHRYN NEVER
WANTED TO STRIP.
FOR THE MOST PART, THE
COSTUMERS IN THERE MADE ME
WANT TO CRAWL IN A SHELL AND
HIDE.
I WAS DRINKING A LOT IN
ORDER TO DO IT.
GOD LOVES YOU AS YOU ARE,
WHERE YOU ARE, AND NO MATTER
WHAT YOU'VE DONE, WHO YOU'VE
DONE IT WITH, AND HOW MANY
TIMES YOU'VE DONE IT, HE
STILL SEES YOU AS COMPLETELY
100% FORGIVABLE.
Reporter: AND KATHRYN
BEGAN TO BELIEVE WHAT ERIN
TOLD HER ABOUT HER CHURCH.
THERE ARE OTHER DANCERS
THERE, AND PEOPLE WHO HAVE
DONE PORN.
AND SHE SAID, YOU WON'T EVEN
STAND OUT.
Reporter: KATHRYN
FINALLY WENT, AND THAT
SUNDAY THE BAPTIST CHURCH
BAPTIZED AN ECLECTIC GROUP.
WITH TATTOOS, AND EVERY
RACE, THEY'RE SAYING, I'M
GOING TO BRING JESUS BACK
INTO MY LIFE.
I'M GOING TO LIVE MY LIFE
FOR JESUS.
AND I SAID, WHY CAN'T I?
Reporter: SHE
IMMEDIATELY TURNED AWAY FROM
STRIPPING.
QUITTING THE CLUB WAS MY
FIRST STEP, AND I TOOK IT
THAT DAY.
AND SHE SAID, ERIN, I
WALKED AWAY.
SHE ACCEPTED CHRIST AS HER
LORD AND SAVIOR.
Reporter: ERIN
INTRODUCED HER TO A JOB
RECRUITER RIGHT AWAY.
A RECRUITER IN OUR CHURCH
HAS FOUND HER A JOB.
SHE IS GOING TO GRADUATE IN
JANUARY WITH A DEGREE IN
CRIMINAL JUSTICE.
SHE WANTS TO BE A COP.
Reporter: AND NOW
KATHRYN JOINS ON THOSE
VISITS TO THE STRIP CLUB.
AND THE STRIPPERS STARTED
LISTENING RIGHT AWAY.
I THINK IT WAS THE GLOW
OF HAPPINESS AND GETTING RID
OF DEPRESSION AND
ALCOHOLISM, AND INVITING
JESUS TO CONTROL MY LIFE
INSTEAD OF ME.
Reporter: ERIN HAS
FACED SOME CRITICISM FOR
HANGING OUT WITH AND MAKING
FRIENDS WITH THESE
STRIPPERS, BUT TODD POINTS
TO JESUS.
HE WAS CRITICIZED FOR
HANGING OUT WITH SINNERS AND
HAVING MEALS WITH THEM.
BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT GOING
TO LISTEN TO US UNTIL THEY
KNOW HOW MUCH WE LOVE THEM.
JESUS SAID WE'D BE KNOWN
AS FOLLOWERS BY HOW WE
LOVE.
THE ABORTIONIST, THE
STRIPPER, THE PORNOGRAPHER,
THE ADDICT, THEY'RE NOT OUR
ENEMY.
THEY'RE OUR MISSION FIELD.
Reporter: JUST AS JESUS
IS KNOWN AS THE FRIEND OF
SINNERS, ERIN STEV STEVENS,
THE HOME-SCHOOLING MOM, IS
HEADING INTO THE DARKEST
PARTS OF DOWNTOWN NASHVILLE
AND BECOMING KNOWN AS THE
FRIEND OF STRIPPERS.
PAUL STRAND, CBN NEWS,
REPORTING FROM MT. JULIA,
TENNESSEE.
Pat: THAT'S WHAT JESUS
DID.
THEY SAID HE IS A FRIEND OF
DRUNKARDS AND SINNERS --
Terry: US.
Pat: YES.
AND HE SAID, WHO DID THE SON
OF MAN COME TO SAVE?
HE SAID, I CAME TO SEEK THE
LOST, NOT THE RIGHT THE
RIGHTEOUS.
BUT ANYBODY WHO THINKS
THEY'RE RIGHTEOUS IS A
SINNER.
PEOPLE WANT LOVE, AND YOU
THINK THOSE DIRTY, FALLEN
WOMEN, WHO NEEDS THIS, BUT
THEY'RE SEEKING LOVE.
MANY OF THEM HAVE BEEN
TRAPPED IN THAT KIND OF
THING, AND THEY DON'T KNOW
WHAT TO DO ABOUT IT.
AND IT IS AN ENDLESS CYCLE
OF DRUGS AND ALCOHOL AND
SEX.
Terry: ONCE YOU'RE IN
IT, IT IS HARD TO GET OUT.
Pat: BUT GOD BLESS
HER.
I DIDN'T THINK OF
NASHVILLE'S MUSIC CITY OF
HAVING THAT DARK SIDE.
Terry: THERE ARE MANY
CITIZENS LIKE THAT.
WELL, COMING UP, TALK ABOUT
PICKING ON THE WRONG GUY.
AN ULTIMATE FIGHTER SHARES
HOW HE WAS BULLIED AS A
CHILD.
I REMEMBER EVERY PART OF
ME FEELING LIKE IT WAS
BROKEN AND CRUSHED.
I ALWAYS WANTED TO BE
SOMEONE DIFFERENT AT THAT
AGE.
Terry: FIND OUT WHAT
HAPPENED WHEN HE STARTED TO
FIGHT BACK.
THAT'S NEXT.
*
Pat: WHEN I WAS A KID,
I FOUGHT THE HEAVY WEIGHT IN
THE GOLDEN GLOVES, AND I
THOUGHT BOXING WASN'T TOO
BAD.
IT GETS YOUR HEAD KNOCKED IN
OCCASIONALLY, BUT IT WAS
ACCORDING TO RULES, AND
THREE ROUNDS AND YOU'RE
OUT.
BUT THERE IS SOMETHING NOW
CALLED THE ULTIMATE FIGHTING
CHAMPIONSHIP AND THAT
OCTAGON THAT IS ABSOLUTELY
BRUTAL, AND I DON'T LIKE
IT.
BUT MANY MILLIONS THINK IT
IS A GREAT SPORT, IF YOU
DON'T MIND GETTING YOUR FACE
SMASHED IN EVERY TIME YOU
STEP IN THE RING.
HE HAS DISHED OUT HIS SHARE
OF BEATINGS INSIDE THAT
CAGED WALL.
HE SPENT HIS LIFE TRYING TO
PROVE THAT HE WAS THE
TOUGHEST OF THE TOUGH.
UNTIL ONE DAY JUSTIN LEARNED
THAT YOU CAN'T WIN UNTIL YOU
SURRENDER.
Reporter: JUSTIN WAS
LOOKING AT JOSH, AND HE IS
REINING DOWN THE LEATHER
HARD.
PEOPLE CALLED HIM THE
VIKING.
PROFESSIONAL FIGHTER JUSTIN
REND, ONE OF THE ULTIMATE
FIGHTERS IN THE ULTIMATE
FIGHTING CHAMPIONSHIP.
AND JUSTIN WAS A LEADING
CONTESTANT IN THE 2009
SEASON OF THE REALITY SHOW
"THE ULTIMATE FIGHTER."
BUT THE MAN WHO HAD BECOME A
FIERCE WARRIOR WAS NOTHING
LIKE THE AWKWARD AND SHY
TEENAGER HE ONCE WAS.
CLASSMATES MADE FUN OF
JUSTIN AND HARASSED HIM.
AT TIMES IT GOT PHYSICAL.
I JUST REMEMBER EVERY
PART OF ME FEELING LIKE IT
WAS BROKEN AND CRUSHED.
THAT I WASN'T GOOD ENOUGH.
THAT I WAS WORTHLESS.
I ALWAYS WANTED TO BE
SOMEONE DIFFERENT AT THAT
AGE.
Reporter: HE WAS AFRAID
TO STAND UP TO THE BULLIES
UNTIL HE DISCOVERED THE TV
SHOW, "THE ULTIMATE
FIGHTER."
THEY WERE BIG, THEY WERE
STRONG.
THEY WERE OLYMPIC WRESTLERS
AND OLYMPIC BOXERS.
AT THAT NOMINATE MOMENT, I
FOUND THIS IS HOW I WILL
LEARN HOW TO STAND UP FOR
MYSELF AND FIGHT BACK.
Reporter: IN HIGH
SCHOOL, HE JOINED THE
WRESTLING TEAM, AND HE GREW
BIGGER AND STRONGER AND WON
A NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP.
THE BULLYING HAD STOPPED, BU
IT DIDN'T IMPROVE HIS
SELF-ESTEEM.
INSTEAD, HE FELT WORSE AND
WAS DIAGNOSED WITH
DEPRESSION.
JUSTIN STARTED DRINKING AND
SMOKING MARIJUANA TO BATTLE
THE SADNESS.
I JUST ALWAYS REMEMBER
FIGHTING DEPRESSION.
FIGHTING SADNESS AND ANGER
ALL AT THE SAME TIME, LIKE
THESE TWO WARRING EMOTIONS
OF ME BEING ANGRY BECAUSE
I'M SAD, AND BEING SAD
BECAUSE I'M ANGRY.
WHATEVER THIS WHOLE IN MY
HEART WAS, IT HAD TO BE
FULFILLED.
Reporter: AFTER HIGH
SCHOOL, JUSTIN ACHIEVED HIS
DREAM OF BECOMING AN
ULTIMATE FIGHTER WHEN HE
EARNED A SPOT WITH THE
U.F.C.
HE QUICKLY BECAME A FAN
FAVORITE, BUT JUSTIN NEVER
CONQUERED HIS BATTLE WITH
DEPRESSION.
THE DRINKING GOT HEAVIER,
AND THE DRUGS GOT STRONGER.
IT DIDN'T MATTER HOW MANY
PEOPLE SCREAMED MY NAME OR
CAME TO WATCH ME FIGHT OR
ASKED FOR MY AUTOGRAGH OR
TOOK MY PICTURES, I FELT ALL
ALONE.
I DID SUCH A GOOD JOB OF
HIDING MY DEPRESSION, THAT
ABSOLUTELY NOBODY KNEW.
FROM REPORTERS SAYING HE WAS
THE NEXT BIG THING, TO MY
PARENTS BEING SO PROUD OF
ME.
NOBODY IN THIS WORLD KNEW
HOW WORTHLESS I FELT.
Reporter: BUT JUSTIN
WAS LOSING HIS ABILITY TO
HIDE HIS ADDICTION.
HE STARTED SKIPPING TRAINING
CAMP.
AND HIS EXTREME DRUG USE
CAUSED HIM TO BLACK OUT FOR
DAYS.
ONE DAY HE WOKE UP FROM A
STUPER AND CHECKED HIS
VOICEMAIL.
HIS BEST FRIEND HAD LEFT HIM
A MESSAGE.
HE SAID, I CAN'T BELIEVE
YOU MISSED MY WEDDING.
I CAN'T BELIEVE YOU MISSED
BEING MY BEST MAN.
AND I REMEMBER FEELING
NAUSEOUS.
I REMEMBER JUST THINKING, I
AM SUCH A SCREW-UP, THAT I
LOVE THIS GUY AND I HURT HIM
DEEPLY.
Reporter: THEN DAYS
LATER, HE WAS KICKED OFF THE
ULTIMATE FIGHTER FOR
SKIPPING PRACTICE AND
SUSPICION OF DRUG USE.
WHEN HE MOM FOUND OUT, SHE
WENT TO HIS HOUSE AND SHE
DISCOVERED LARGE AMOUNT OF
DRUGS AND JUSTIN LIVING IN
FILTTH.
MY DRUG ADDICTION WAS NO
LONGER ABLE TO BE HIDDEN,
AND MY DEPRESSION WAS NO
LONGER ABLE TO BE HIDDEN.
I ABSOLUTELY NEEDED AND HAD
TO HAVE A CHANGE.
Reporter: HIS MOM
CALLED AN OLD FRIEND OF
JUSTIN'S THAT SHE KNEW HAD
BECOME A PASTOR.
PASTOR JEFF INVITED JUSTIN
TO A CHRISTIAN RETREAT.
JEFF USED THESE WORDS,
I'M TELLING YOU, REAL PEOPLE
WITH REAL PROBLEMS REALLY
NEED REAL ANSWERS FROM A
REALLY REAL GOD.
HE SAID, I PROMISE YOU, HE
IS REAL.
Reporter: JEFF
CONVINCED JUSTIN TO COME,
AND EVEN PAID FOR HIS FLIGHT
TO TEXAS.
I WAS SURROUNDED BY MEN
THAT ABSOLUTELY LOVED GOD,
WHICH FREAKED ME OUT BECAUSE
I NEVER MET PEOPLE THAT I
ACTUALLY FELT REALLY DID
LOVE GOD.
JEFF STARTED SPEAKING MY
LANGUAGE.
BRO, YOU CAN'T WIN THIS
FIGHT ALONE.
HE IS THE ULTIMATE FIGHTER.
JESUS WENT ON THE CROSS.
HE DIED FOR YOUR SINS.
BUT, BRO, THAT'S NOT IT.
THAT'S NOT WHERE THE STORY
ENDS.
HE WAS BURIED IN THE GRAVE,
AND THREE DAYS LATER HE
AROSE.
HE DEFEATED IT ALL FOR YOU.
AND ALL YOU HAVE TO DO IS
SUBMIT.
ALL YOU HAVE TO DO IS TAP
OUT.
AND TO ME THAT WAS CRAZY,
BECAUSE TAPPING OUT MEANS
GIVING UP, IT MEANS
SURROUNDING.
YOU'RE TELLING ME I'M GOING
TO WIN -- YOU'RE TELLING ME
I'M GOING TO WIN WHENEVER I
SURRENDER, WHENEVER I WAVE
THE WHITE FLAG, WHEN I GIVE
UP.
HE SAID, BRO, I PROMISE
YOU, THIS IS THE ONE TIME
WHEN YOU GIVE EVERYTHING UP
AND YOU GIVE YOUR LIFE OVER,
AND YOU SAY, I CAN'T DO THIS
WITHOUT YOU, GOD, I HAVE TO
HAVE A RELATIONSHIP WITH
YOU, JESUS, AND I PROMISE
YOU YOU'RE GOING TO BE GIVEN
THE GREATEST VICTORY YOU
HAVE EVER WON.
Reporter: JUSTIN PRAYED
TO ACCEPT JESUS AS HIS
SAVIOR.
I JUST REMEMBER GIVING MY
LIFE TO CHRIST.
PRAYING, AND SAYING, GOD, I
CANNOT DO THIS WITHOUT YOU.
I AM JACKED UP AND I CAN'T
SAVE MYSELF, AND I NEED
YOU.
AND MY HEART WAS FINALLY AT
REST.
AND I FINALLY HAD NOT A
HAPPINESS THAT WAS
TEMPORARY, BUT A JOY THAT I
KNEW WAS THERE TO STAY.
THAT WORTHLESSNESS WAS TAKEN
AWAY, AND THE WORTH AND THE
VALUE IN WHO GOD IS AND WHO
JESUS IS AND WHO HE MADE ME
TO BE WAS INSTANTLY PUT
THERE.
AND JESUS SET ME FREE
SPIRITUALLY, SET ME FREE
EMOTIONAL, AND SET ME FREE
PHYSICALLY FROM THOSE
DRUGS.
IT WAS ALL GOD.
Reporter: JUSTIN MIGHT
REJOIN THE U.F.C. IN THE
FUTURE, BUT FOR NOW HE IS IN
FULL-TIME
MINISTRY
WITH
HIS
FIANCEE.
IN FACT, THEY PUT THEIR
WEDDING ON HOLD FOR A YEAR
WHILE JUSTIN LEADS A MISSION
TRIP TO THE CONGO.
HE SAYS HIS LIFE IS
FULFILLED ALL BECAUSE OF
JESUS CHRIST.
I TAPPED OUT, AND I
SUBMITTED MY LIFE TO CHRIST,
AND HONESTLY, I WAS GIVEN
THE GREATEST VICTORY I HAD
EVER WON.
Pat: THE BIBLE SAYS
JESUS BECAME OBEDIENT, AND
HE LEARNED BY THE THINGS
THAT HE SUFFERED.
HE BECAME OBEDIENT TO THE
DEATH ON THE CROSS.
HE HAD ALL THE POWER.
JESUS CHRIST HAD ALL POWER.
HE SAID, LISTEN, I CAN CALL
A THOUSAND ANGELS.
I CAN CALL LEGIONS OF
ANGELS, ENOUGH TO BEAT UP
THE WHOLE ARMY OF ROME.
I DON'T HAVE TO DO THIS.
I HAVE MORE POWER THAN ALL
OF THEM COMBINED.
I AM GOD.
AND YET HE BECAME OBEDIENT
TO THE DEATH ON THE CROSS.
HE BECAME A SERVANT.
HE HUMBLED HIMSELF, BECAME A
MAN, WAS BEATEN, CURSED,
SPIT UPON, REVIALED, LAUGHED
AT, AND ULTIMATELY DIED.
WHY DID HE DO IT?
BECAUSE HE SAW YOU.
HE SAW ME.
HE KNEW -- HE KNEW THAT YOU
AND I NEEDED A SAVIOR.
AND WE WEREN'T GOING TO
SUBMIT OURSELVES TO SOME
HIGH AND MIGHTY LORD WHO
DIDN'T COME DOWN NOW WHERE
WE WERE, BUT WE WOULD SUBMIT
OURSELVES TO A SUFFERING
SERVANT, WHO WASHED PEOPLE'S
FEET AND WHO HUMBLED
HIMSELF.
AND RIGHT NOW THE SUFFERING
SERVANT IS STANDING AT THE
DOOR OF YOUR HEART, AND HE
IS KNOCKING.
HE IS SAYING, LISTEN, I DIED
FOR YOU.
I GAVE MY HEART FOR YOU.
WOULD YOU LET ME COME IN?
AND LIVE MY LIFE IN YOU.
AND IF YOU SAY YES, HE WILL
SAY, I'M GOING TO COME AND
I'M GOING TO MAKE YOU A
BRAND NEW PERSON.
I'M GOING TO GIVE YOU JOY
YOU'VE NEVER KNOWN.
I'M GOING TO TAKE AWAY THE
SADNESS AND THE GRIEF AND
THE SELF-LOATHING AND ALL OF
THE OTHER STUFF THAT GOES
ON.
AND I'M GOING TO MAKE YOU A
NEW CREATURE.
IF YOU WANT THAT, PRAY WITH
ME RIGHT NOW.
PRAY THESE WORDS.
BOW YOUR HEAD.
SAY THESE WORDS WITH ME, BUT
MEAN THEM IN YOUR HEART.
JESUS -- THAT'S RIGHT --
JESUS, YOU KNOW THE TURMOIL
THAT HAS GONE THROUGH MY
MIND.
YOU KNOW WHAT I'VE BEEN
THROUGH.
AND YOU KNOW HOW I HATE TO
SURRENDER.
BUT, LORD, BECAUSE OF YOU, I
SURRENDER MYSELF.
I GIVE IN, LORD, TO YOU.
AND I SUBMIT MYSELF TO YOUR
CONTROL.
AND FROM THIS MOMENT ON, I
AM YOURS.
TAKE ME, LORD.
I GIVE MYSELF TO YOU.
THANK YOU, LORD.
THANK YOU, LORD, FOR HEARING
MY PRAYER.
THANK YOU, IN JESUS' NAME.
IF YOU PRAYED THAT PRAYER
WITH ME, I WANT TO GIVE YOU
SOMETHING TO START YOU OUT.
YOU SAY, I'VE PRAYED, AND
WHAT DOES IT MEAN?
IT IS A SIMPLE PRAYER WITH
SOMEBODY ON TELEVISION, AND
WHAT DOES IT MEAN?
WELL, I WAS IN OUR AUDIO
BOOTH A FEW YEARS AGO, AND I
DID 70 MINUTES OF A VERY,
VERY IMPORTANT TEACHING.
ABOUT THE EXCHANGED LIFE,
AND WHAT IT MEANS TO BE BORN
AGAIN.
WHAT IT MEANS TO BE BAPTIZED
IN THE HOLY SPIRIT.
IT'S ALL HERE.
AND I'LL GIVE IT TO YOU FREE
IF YOU CALL AND SAY, I
PRAYED WITH PAT AND I GAVE
MY HEART TO THE LORD.
NO FINANCES, NOTHING.
IF YOU DON'T WANT TO GIVE US
YOUR NAME, THAT'S FINE.
JUST CALL AND TELL ONE OF
THESE PEOPLE ON THE PHONE, I
JUST PRAYED.
I JUST SURRENDERED, AND I
JUST RECEIVED JESUS.
THE ANGELS IN HEAVEN WILL BE
REJOICING WITH YOU.
IT IS A TOLL-FREE NUMBER.
NO MONEY, NO FINANCES, NO
COST.
1-800-759-0700.
HERE IS TERRY.
Terry: WELL, COMING UP,
HE IS A PASTOR WHO'S CHURCH
FEATURES 85,000 SCREAMING
FANS EVERY SUNDAY.
MEET WASHINGTON REDSKINS'
CHAPLAIN BRETT FULLER WHEN
WE RETURN.
WELCOME BACK TO "THE 700
CLUB."
THE UNITED NATIONS IS
WARNING THERE IS A RISK OF
GENOCIDE IN THE CENTRAL
AFRICAN REPUBLIC.
THE COUNTRY HAS BEEN IN
TURMOIL SINCE ISLAMIST
MILITANTS OUSTED THE
PRESIDENT IN MARCH.
ISLAMISTS ARE IN SIGHTING
VIOLENCE IN THE TOWNS WHERE
CHRISTIANS AND MUSLIMS USED
TO LIVE IN BUSINES PEACE
AND DO BUSINESS TOGETHER.
HUMAN RIGHTS GROUPS HAVE
ACCUSED REBELS OF WIDESPREAD
LOOTING, KILLINGS, RAPES AND
RECRUITMENT OF CHILD
SOLDIERS.
A NEW JERSEY COUPLE IS SUING
GOVERNOR CHRIS CHRISTIE FOR
SIGNING A BILL THAT BANS GAY
CONVERSION THERAPY.
THE COUPLE CLAIMS THE BAN
VIOLATES THEIR FREEDOM OF
SPEECH BECAUSE IT PREVENTS
THEM FROM SEEKING TREATMENT
FOR THEIR TEENAGED SON.
HE SUFFERS FROM UNWANTED
GENDER CONFUSION, AND HAS
EVEN CONTEMPLATED SUICIDE.
THE BILL BANS THERAPISTS WHO
WANT TO HELP TEENAGERS WHO
WANT
TO OVERCOME SEXUAL
TENDENCIES.
PAT AND TERRY WILL BE BACK
WITH MORE OF "THE 700 CLUB"
RIGHT AFTER THIS.
Terry: WELL, BRENT
FULLER IS NOT YOUR TYPICAL
PASTOR.
FOR STARTERS, MANY OF HIS
CONGREGANTS ARE WORKING ON
SUNDAY.
HE IS THE CHAPLAIN TO ONE OF
THE MOST POPULAR TEAMS IN
THE NFL, AND RECENTLY HE SAT
DOWN WITH OUR SPORTS
REPORTER, SEAN BROWN, TO
TALK ABOUT HIS TWO PASSIONS,
FAITH AND FOOTBALL.
Reporter: THE
WASHINGTON REDSKINS ARE ONE
OF THE MOST VALUABLE NFL
TEAMS IN PROFESSIONAL
FOOTBALL.
BRETT FULLER SERVES AS THE
CHAPLAIN FOR THE TEAM.
ACCORDING TO PASTOR BRETT,
THERE IS A LOT MORE TO THE
JOB THAN JUST PRAYING
BEFORE, DURING, AND AFTER
GAMES.
MY RESPONSIBILITY IS THE
TO BE A CHAPLAIN TO THE
ENTIRE ORGANIZATION, NOT
JUST THE BALLPLAYERS.
ALTHOUGH THE BALLPLAYERS ARE
MY TARGET, THERE ARE 350 OR
MORE EMPLOYEES WHO WORK IN
THE ORGANIZATION.
I WILL WANDER THE HALLS OVER
IN THE FRONT OFFICE, AS WELL
AS THE FOOTBALL SIDE, TO SEE
HOW PEOPLE ARE DOING AND
PRAY FOR THEM.
Reporter: ONE OF THOSE
PEOPLE WAS DEFENSIVE END KED
RICK OLSON.
THE PASTOR DID A GREAT
JOB OF LEADING ME AND NOT
PACIFYING ME.
TELLING ME WHAT THE WORD IS,
AND ALLOWING ME TO READ IT.
AND EVER SINCE THEN I'VE
JUST BEEN, YOU KNOW, FULL
OUT.
Reporter: WHILE PASTOR
BRETT OFFICIALLY BECAME THE
TEAM CHAPLAIN AROUND THE
2001 SEASON, HE HAS BEEN
MINISTERS TO PLAYERS AND
COACHES SINCE HE FIRST MOVED
INTO THE AREA IN THE
1980s.
IT STARTED WHEN HE ASKED
REDSKINS' HALL-OF-FAMER
DERYL GREEN TO SPEAK.
I REALIZED THERE WERE A
FEW HOLES IN HIS TESTIMONY,
AND I SAID, MR. GREEN, DO
YOU MIND IF WE GET TOGETHER
AND DO SOME STUDYING BECAUSE
MAYBE I CAN HELP YOU.
I SHOWED UP AS HIS DOOR ON
TUESDAY AT 6 A.M.
I SAID, I'M ONLY GOING TO
TAKE 30 MINUTES.
IF YOU DON'T WANT ME BACK, I
WON'T.
AFTER THE 30 MINUTES, HE
SAID, CAN YOU COME BACK ON
THURSDAY.
THAT BEGAN AN OUTREACH TO
THE WASHINGTON REDSKINS.
Reporter: SINCE THAT
TIME, THE PASTOR HAS BECOME
A BEACON OF LIGHT IN A
SOMETIMES DARK BUSINESS.
THE NFL IS A "NOT FOR
LONG LEAGUE."
AND I'M NOT THE THE FIRST TO
COIN THAT PHRASE.
YOU COULD BE HERE FOR A CUP
OF COFFEE AND THEN BE GONE.
THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO ARE
LITERALLY HIRED AND FIRED
EVERY WEEK.
YOU HAVE TO MEET THESE FOLKS
AND SAY I'M PRAYING FOR
YOU.
ANYTHING I CAN DO, LET ME
KNOW.
Reporter: HE SAYS WHILE
PRAYING FOR FRIENDS AND
PLAYERS ARE IMPORTANT, THE
CHAPEL SERMONS HE HAS IS A
SUCCESS.
AND BY THAT, HE IS NOT JUST
TALKING ABOUT THE GAME.
THEY HEAR PRINCIPLES FOR
SUCCESS, WHAT IT MEANS TO BE
A GREAT DAD, AND HOW TO BE
AN EXCELLENT EMPLOYER, WHICH
GOD HAS CALLED YOU.
TO YOU FAITHFUL TO GOD WITH
YOUR TALENTS.
TO SEE GOD BE GLORIFIED
THROUGH WHAT YOU'VE DONE.
Reporter: THE REDSKINS
HAVE HAD A ROUGH SEASON, BUT
PASTOR BRETT IS THERE DURING
THE HIGHS AND LOWS OF NFL
FOOTBALL.
MY JOB AS CHAPLAIN IS TO
SERVE THAT COMMUNITY AS BEST
I KNOW HOW, THROUGH THE
GOSPEL.
THERE ARE A NUMBER OF PEOPLE
WHO ARE NOT CHRISTIANS.
MY JOB IS NOT TO ALWAYS TRY
TO TAKE THE GOSPEL AND BEAT
THEM OVER THE HEAD, BUT TO
SERVE THEM WHERE THEY ARE,
AND SERVE THEM SO THEY WILL
INQUIRE ABOUT WHO MY GOD
IS.
Terry: WE LOVE TO BRING
YOU INTERESTING INTERVIEWS
WITH SOME OF THE TOP
ATHLETES IN THE COUNTRY.
AND WE WOULD LOVE TO HAVE
YOU SEE HOW GOD IS
MINISTERING TO THEM.
YOU CAN WATCH MORE
TESTIMONIES FROM SOME OF
THESE TOP ATHLETES.
JUST GO TO CBNSPORTS.COM.
KEVIN WRITES, "WILL THERE BE
SIN IN HEAVEN.
THE ANSWER IS NO, RIGHT?
IF THE ANSWER IS NO, HOW DID
THE ANGELS WORK DURING THE
REBELLION?"
WE'RE GOING TO LET PAT
ANSWER THAT QUESTION AND
MORE AFTER THIS BREAK.
Terry: I DON'T KNOW
ABOUT YOU, BUT TWO ME IT IS
AMAZING THAT THANKSGIVING
REALLY IS JUST AROUND THE
CORNER.
IF YOU'RE A "700 CLUB"
PARTNER, WE WANT YOU TO KEEP
WATCHING YOUR MAILBOX.
WE'RE GOING TO BE SENDING
YOU A SPECIAL PACKAGE,
CALLED, "THE KEYS TO A
JOYFUL THANKSGIVING."
YOU'LL FIND A RECIPE FOR
GORDON'S TURKEY POT PIE.
AND A BEAUTIFUL CENTER PIECE
WITH A WONDERFUL SCRIPTURE
ON IT.
"FOR
THE LORD IS GOOD, AND HIS
UNFAILING FAITHFULNESS TO
EACH GENERATION."
AND EVERY YEAR THE ROBERTSON
FAMILY GIVES TO A NEEDY
FAMILY THE AMOUNT THEY SPEND
ON THEIR THANKSGIVING MEAL.
WE DELIVER 100,000 MEALS AND
FOOD AND SUPPLIES TO ONE
MILLION FALT FAMILIES HERE
IN AMERICA.
IF YOU'RE NOT A CBN PARTNER,
YOU CAN STILL GIVE.
ALL YOU HAVE TO DO IS CALL
US TOLL-FREE AT
1-800-759-0700 OR YOU CAN
WRITE TO US.
AND WE THANK YOU IN ADVANCE
FOR CARRYING ABOUT OTHERS.
Pat: I BELIEVE THEY'RE
ALREADY SELLING CHRISTMAS AT
WAL-MART.
Terry: LET US JUST HAVE
THANKSGIVING FIRST.
Pat: WE COULDN'T EVEN
HAVE HALLOWEEN AND THEY HAVE
CHRISTMAS.
Terry: THAT'S THE
TRUTH.
WE HAVE SOME E-MAIL
QUESTIONS.
LET ME START WITH KEVIN'S
QUESTION.
HE SAYS, "WILL THERE BE SIN
IN HEAVEN?
WELL, THE ANSWER IS NO.
IF THAT ANSWER IS NO, HOW
DID SATAN AND HIS ANGELS SIN
DURING THE REBELLION?"
Pat: THE FIRST SIN WAS
PRIDE, WHERE SATAN BEGAN TO
LOOK AT HIS OWN BEAUTY AND
HIS OWN WISDOM, AND HE SAYS,
I AM SMART.
I AM BEAUTIFUL.
I CAN RUN HEAVEN BETTER THAN
GOD.
AND THAT IS THE FIRST SIN.
IT IS THE MOST IMPORTANT
SIN.
AND IT IS THE SIN THAT WE
ALL HAVE.
I IMAGINE THE ONE WHO ASKED
THAT QUESTION HAS A LITTLE
BIT OF IT, TOO, BECAUSE IT
IS PRIDE.
WE THINK WE'RE SO SMART AND
WE THINK WE CAN DO A BETTER
JOB OF OUR LIFE THAN GOD.
I AM THE MASTER OF MY SOUL,
I AM THE CAPTAIN OF MY
FAITH.
YOU KNOW, AND I CAN DO A
BETTER JOB THAN GOD.
THAT'S WHERE SIN CAME FROM.
WHERE DID IT START?
IT STARTS IN THE HEART OF
PEOPLE.
AND IT IS ARROGANCE AND
PRIDE.
WILL THERE BE ANY SIN?
SOONER OR LATER SATAN AND
HIS ANGELS WILL BE REMOVED
FROM HEAVEN.
AND THERE WILL BE NONE OF
THAT WHEN THE FINAL TIME
COMES.
BUT RIGHT NOW, YES, THERE IS
SIN.
BUT SIN IN HEAVEN, WELL,
THAT'S WHERE IT STARTED.
BUT IT'S NOT GOING TO REMAIN
THERE FOREVER.
IT IS GOING TO BE DEALT
WITH.
AND THERE WILL BE NO SORROW,
NO SIN, NO SUFFERING, NO
PAIN, NO TEARS.
IT WILL ALL BE BEAUTIFUL.
ALL RIGHT.
Terry: BASED ON THAT
FIRST QUESTION, I THINK THIS
SECOND QUESTION, ALL FROM A
KEVIN, MIGHT BE HIM AS
WELL.
"I HEARD THAT GOD SENT SATAN
TO EARTH AFTER THE GREAT
BATTLE IN HEAVEN.
WHY DIDN'T GOD SEND HIM
STRAIGHT TO HELL.
WOULDN'T THAT HAVE MADE
THINGS EASIER?"
Pat: IT REALLY WOULD.
I THINK IT WOULD BE GREAT IF
EVERY CRIMINAL WOULD BE SENT
TO HELL.
WHY DON'T WE JUST SHOOT THE
SUCKER.
THATHAT'S WHAT YOU'RE
SAYING.
LET'S WIPE THEM ALL OUT.
GOD DOESN'T WORK THAT WAY.
I'LL TELL YOU WHY.
BECAUSE IF HE DID, WE WOULD
BE SCARED, AND WE WOULD
SERVE HIM FOR FEAR.
GOD WANTS US TO SERVE HIM
OUT OF LOVE.
HE IS LETTING EVIL HAVE ITS
OWN COURSE.
HIS ANSWER WAS A LITTLE BABY
IN BETHLEHEM AND A CROSS ON
CALVARY, AND PEOPLE COMING
TO HIM VOLUNTARILY WHO COME
TO HIM AND LIVE FOR HIM, NOT
BECAUSE THEY'RE SCARED OF
HIM, BUT BECAUSE THEY LOVE
HIM.
THAT'S WHY GOD DIDN'T GET
RID OF EVERYBODY.
AND THAT'S WHY IN A
GOVERNMENT OF LAWS, WE CAN'T
DO IT EITHER.
Terry: TERESA SAYS,
"WHY DOES GOD LOVE US SO
MUCH?"
Pat: GOD IS LOVE.
HE IS NOT LOVING, BUT HE IS
LOVE ITSELF.
WHY DOES HE LOVE US THIS
MUCH?
BECAUSE HIS WHOLE NATURE IS
FILLED WITH LOVE.
SO THIS IS MERELY A
REFLECTION OF WHO HE IS AND
WHAT HE IS.
AND THE THING IS YOU AND I
KNOW WE'RE NOT WORTHY OF
THAT LOVE.
WE'RE NOT DESERVING OF IT.
WHAT WE'RE DESERVING OF IS
HELL.
AND GOD LOVES US.
SEE WHAT MANNER OF LOVE THIS
FATHER HAS SHOWN TO US, AND
WE WILL BE CALLED THE
CHILDREN OF GOD.
IT IS A MYSTERY, BUT
RECOGNIZE HE IS LOVE.
Terry: JONATHAN
SAYS, "I HATE TO BE ONE OF
THOSE FOX HOLE CHRISTIANS
WHO ONLY RELIES ON MY FAITH
IN TIMES OF NEED.
I JUST FEEL AS IF I STRAY
UNLESS THERE IS SOME SORT OF
CRISIS.
OBVIOUSLY, I DON'T WANT TO
LIVE MY LIFE FROM CRISIS TO
CRISIS, SO WHAT CAN I DO TO
MAKE SURE THAT MY FAITH IS
STRONG ALL THE TIME?"
Pat: WHEN YOU EAT A
GOOD MEAL, THANK GOD FOR
IT.
WHEN YOU TURN ON WATER AND
IT IS HOT AND COLD AND YOU
HAVE PLENTY OF IT AND IT IS
FRESH AND CLEAN, THANK GOD
FOR IT.
WHEN YOU HAVE THE FREEDOM TO
GO WHERE YOU WILL, YOU THANK
GOD FOR IT.
IF YOU HAVE A WIFE, THANK
GOD FOR HER.
A HUSBAND, THANK GOD FOR
HIM.
YOUR CHILDREN, THANK GOD FOR
THEM.
EVERY TIME YOU TURN AROUND,
ALWAYS BE GRATEFUL.
Terry: STEVEN SAYS,
"CAN YOU EXPLAIN THE
DOCTRINE OF THE ELECT?
IT IS CONFUSING TO ME AND
SEEMS TO THROW OTHER VERSES,
LIKE JOHN 16, OUT THE
WINDOW."
Pat: IF YOU PUSH THESE
THINGS TOO FAR, YOU GET
EXTREME CALVINISM.
YOU GET ALL OF THAT STUFF
LIKE SUPER LAPARIAN, AND ALL
OF THAT STUFF.
GOD HAS A TENSION BETWEEN
MAN'S FREE WILL AND HIS FORE
KNOWLEDGE.
IF YOU GO ONE SIDE OR THE
OTHER, YOU GET UNBALANCED.
THE APOSTLE PAUL SAID, "WORK
OUT YOUR SALVE VATION WITH
FEAR AND TREMBLING."
OKAY.
FOR IT IS GOD THAT IS IN
YOU, AND THE WILL TO DO OF
HIS GOOD PLEASURE.
SO THE HOLY SPIRIT AND GOD
IS WORKING WHILE YOU'RE
SPIRIT IS WORKING, AND
YOU'RE MOVING TOGETHER.
AND WE DON'T HAVE THE
ANSWERS TO THE MYSTERY.
WHEN YOU GET TO HABR,
HEAVEN, YOU'LL FIND OUT THE
ULTIMATE ANSWER HOW FREE
WILL AND FREE DESTINATION,
HOW THE ELECTION CAN GO
ALONG WITH JOHN 3: 16.
THEY'RE BOTH PART OF THE
TRUTH, DON'T NEGLECT EITHER
PART OF IT.
Terry: THIS IS A VIEWER
HAD SAYS, "IF YOU WERE A
BETTING MAN, WHAT WOULD YOU
SAY THE ODDS ARE OF THE END
TIMES HAPPENING SOMETIME IN
THE NEXT 50 YEARS.
BETTER OR WORSE THAN
50/50?"
Pat: MY DEAR, I USED TO
BE ONE OF THOSE EXTREME
BETTING MEN.
Terry: WELL, THEN,
WE'LL LISTEN CLOSELY.
Pat: I WOULDN'T GIVE
ODDS ON THAT BECAUSE I DON'T
KNOW.
BUT IT DOES SEEM -- IT DOES
SEEM THAT THE THINGS ARE
SHAPING UP.
THE REGATHERING OF THE JEWS
IN ISRAEL.
THE NATIONS COMING AGAINST
ISRAEL.
THE FOMAT IN THE EARTH.
THE VOLCANOS, AND THE
POTENTIAL OF AN ASTEROID
STRIKE -- ALL OF THESE
THINGS ARE HAPPENING.
Terry: EVEN
TECHNOLOGY.
Pat: WE HAVE THE
TECHNOLOGY TO DESTROY
OURSELVES, AND WE DIDN'T
HAVE THAT BEFORE.
AND PEOPLE RUNNING TO AND
FRO AND KNOWLEDGE INCREASES,
AND ALL OF THIS.
IT IS ALL POINTING DOWN TO A
COMING.
SO I THINK -- I'M NOT GOING
TO PUT ODDS ON ANYTHING LIKE
THAT, BUT I WOULD SAY IT IS
MUCH NEARER THAN WE FIRST
BELIEVED.
Terry: THAT'S IT.
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR
QUESTIONS, EVERYBODY.
WE LOVE HEARING FROM YOU.
Pat: WINTER -- WINTER
IS COMING, AND FOR RAYMOND
BYRD, THAT SHOULD HAVE MEANT
MONEY IN THE BANK.
WHEN HIS COMPANY FAILED, HE
AND HIS WIFE HAD A HARD TIME
PAYING THE BILLS, SO THEY
GOT SOME ADVICE FROM A
FAMILY FRIEND.
CAR WASHING IN MINNESOTA
IS VERY IMPORTANT FOR
INDIVIDUALS WHO HAVE NICE
VEHICLES, OF COURSE, AND
WANT TO KEEP THEM IN GOOD
CONDITION.
Reporter: STOCKBROKER
RAYMOND BYRD WAS COUNTING ON
THE POPULARITY OF CAR
WASHING WHEN HE BOUGHT A CAR
WASHING COMPANY IN MINNESOTA
AS AN INVESTMENT.
HIS HOPES FOR LARGE PROFITS
NEVER MATERIALIZED.
AS HIS REVENUES DROPPED,
RAYMOND'S STRESS SOARED.
3 A.M. WAKEUPS WERE
COMMON.
I COULDN'T PAY CERTAIN
BILLS.
Reporter: THE BYRDS
SOON HAD TENS OF THOUSANDS
OF DOLLARS IN DEBT, AND THE
CREDITORS WERE CALLING.
I WAS PRAYING, LORD, WILL
YOU HELP ME FIND NEW
CAPITAL.
WILL YOU HELP ME FIND NEW
PARTNERS.
AND IT WASN'T BEING
ANSWERED.
THIS WIFE, SUSANNE, WAS A
FLIGHT ATTENDANT, BUT HER
SALARY ALONE DIDN'T PAY THE
BILLS.
SO THEY CONSIDERED STOPPING
THEIR TITHES.
MY GIRLFRIEND SAID TO ME,
ARE YOU TITHING?
AND I SAID, GAIL, WE CANNOT
AFFORD TO TITHE.
Reporter: GAIL SHOWED
SUSANNE SCRIPTURES ABOUT HOW
GIVING IS IMPORTANT.
SO THE BYRDS CHANGED THEIR
MIND AND CONTINUED TO
TITHE.
A PASSAGE IN THE BIBLE
CONFIRMED THEY WERE DOING
THE RIGHT THING.
"DO NOT BE CONCERNED
ABOUT TOMORROW FOR TODAY HAS
ENOUGH TROUBLES OF ITS
OWN."
IT LODGED IN MY HEART, IF
YOU ARE MY LORD, AND YOU'RE
THE LORD OF THE UNIVERSE, I
TRUST YOU WITH EVERYTHING I
HAVE.
Reporter: AND THAT
MEANT TRUSTING GOD WHEN HE
SOLD THE CAR WASH COMPANY.
HE USED HIS STOCKBROKER
BACKGROUND TO START A
FINANCIAL PLANNING
BUSINESS.
HIS GOAL WAS TO PAY OFF HIS
DEBT AS SOON AS HE BUILT HIS
CLIENTELE.
HE DID IT MORE QUICKLY THAN
HE EVER THOUGHT POSSIBLE.
NOT KNOWING WHERE I WOULD
PAY IT, TO SUDDENLY HAVING
$43,000 THAT WAS OWED PAID
UOFF IN FIVE WEEKS.
IT WAS ONLY FROM THE LORD.
I DO NOT TAKE ANY CREDIT FOR
HAVING THE ABILITY TO EXPAND
MY BUSINESS THAT QUICKLY.
Reporter: THE BYRDS
FEEL GOD SAW THEM THROUGH
THEIR FINANCIAL STORM
BECAUSE THEY WERE FAITHFUL
TO TITHE, EVEN WHEN THEY
THOUGHT THEY COULDN'T.
NOW THEY ARE ALSO CBN
PARTNERS, AND GOD CONTINUES
TO BLESS THEIR BUSINESS.
IF YOU TRUST IN THE LORD,
HE WILL SEE YOU THROUGH.
HE WILL PROVIDE FOR YOU.
HE DID FOR ME.
HE DID FOR US.
Pat: TRUST IN THE LORD
WITH ALL YOUR HEART, LEAN
NOT UNTO YOUR OWN
UNDERSTANDING.
ALWAYS ACKNOWLEDGE HIM AND
HE WILL DIRECT YOUR PATHS.
THAT'S WHAT HAPPENED HERE.
THE LORD DIRECTED HIM AND
BLESSED HIM, AND HE'LL BLESS
YOU IF YOU TRUST HIM.
TRUST HIM.
THAT'S WHAT GOD IS LOOKING
FOR, PEOPLE WHO WILL TRUST
HIM.
Terry: RELATIONSHIP,
RELATIONSHIP, RELATIONSHIP.
Pat: THAT'S RIGHT.
TRUST, TRUST, TRUST.
OKAY, SOME OF YOU WANT TO
PARTICIPATE AND HELP CBN DO
WHAT IT DOES, AND WE WOULD
LOVE YOUR HELP, AND WE THANK
GOD FOR YOU THAT WE CAN BE
ON THE AIR AND HELP YOU.
AND WE HAVE SOMETHING --
PEOPLE SEEM TO LIKE IT.
I DON'T KNOW FOR SURE WHY.
ANYHOW, IT IS CALLED "HOW
SHALL WE NOW LIVE?"
Terry: WELL, THIS IS
ANN, WHO LIVES IN INDIANA.
SHE SAID, "HOW SHALL WE NOW
LIVE IS A VERY GOOD D.V.D.
I WAS SURPRISED AT THE
ANSWERS.
SO FEW SEEM TO KNOW JESUS.
I WILL PASS IT AROUND TO MY
FAMILY."
Pat: SCOTT ON THE
STREET TALKED TO PEOPLE AND
WE HAVE THE IPSO SURVEYS,
AND I THINK YOU'LL FIND IT
INTERESTING.
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR BEING
WITH US TODAY.
I APPRECIATE EVERYBODY.
TOMORROW, WE'RE GOING TO BE
TALKING WITH MEGA CHURCH
PASTOR MATTHEW BARNETT, THE
SON OF TOMMY BARNETT.
AND TODAY WE LEAVE YOU WITH
THESE WORDS FROM JAMES:
"HUMBLE YOURSELF IN THE
SIGHT OF THE LORD, AND HE
WILL LIFT YOU UP."
HUGHUMILITY, THE GREATEST
VIRTUE.
SEE YOU TOMORROW.
BYE-BYE.