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Lee: HIS HEART WAS A
TICKING TIME BOMB, AND HE
WAS WILLING TO LIGHT THE
FUSE.
AND I SAT BACK, AND
WAITED FOR MY HEART TO
BURST.
Lee: HEAR WHAT SAVED
HIS LIFE.
I KNEW THAT EVERYTHING
WAS GOING TO BE OKAY.
Lee: ON TODAY'S "700
CLUB."
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[APPLAUSE]
Pat: WELCOME, LADIES
AND GENTLEMEN, TO THIS
EDITION OF "THE 700 CLUB."
HAPPY TO HAVE YOU WITH US.
IS THE SUPREME COURT GOING
TO EXERCISE RESTRAINT AND
ALLOW THE DEMOCRATIC
PROCESSES AROUND THE COUNTRY
TO TAKE HOLD?
WE HOPE SO.
BUT FOR THE SECOND DAY IN A
ROW, THE SUPREME COURT IS
TAKING AN HISTORIC CASE,
INVOLVING SAME-SEX MARRIAGE,
AND THESE CASES COULD HAVE A
PROFOUND IMPACT ON THE
FUTURE OF THE FAMILY IN
AMERICA.
Kristi: PAT, TODAY THE
COURT IS LOOKING AT A
FEDERAL LAW, THE DEFENSIVE
MARRIAGE ACT.
WE HAVE TWO REPORTS FROM CBN
NEWS, STARTING WITH EPHRAIM
GRAHAM.
Reporter: THE BIG
QUESTION BEFORE THE U.S.
SUPREME COURT TODAY IS NOT
WHETHER GAY MARRIAGE SHOULD
BE LEGAL.
IT IS WHETHER OR NOT THE
FEDERAL GOVERNMENT SHOULD
RECOGNIZE THOSE UNIONS AND
GIVE BENEFITS TO SAME-SEX
COUPLES.
THERE ARE STILL, 1,138
RIGHTS WE DON'T HAVE RIGHTS
TO.
Reporter: THE DEFENSIVE
MARRIAGE ACT, DOMA,
BASICALLY SAYS THE FEDERAL
GOVERNMENT ONLY RECOGNIZES
MARRIAGES BETWEEN A MAN AND
A WOMAN.
THAT MEANS GAY MARRIED
COUPLES DON'T RECEIVE
BENEFITS.
WHEN EDDIE'S SPOUSE DIED IN
2009, SHE WAS FORCED TO PAY
A $360,000 ESTATE TAX, MONEY
SHE WOULDN'T HAVE OWED THE
I.R.S. IF HER PARTNER WAS
MALE.
BEFORE THE HIGH COURT CAN
WEIGH IN, JUSTICES MUST
DECIDE WHETHER THE GROUP OF
HOUSE REPUBLICANS LEADING
THE CHARGE HAS THE AUTHORITY
TO MAKE THE CASE.
DOMA SUPPORTERS ALSO ARGUE
THERE IS AN EVEN BIGGER
QUESTION TO CONSIDER.
IT WOULD LITERALLY
TRANSFORM THE CULTURE.
I THINK IT WOULD HURT
CHILDREN, BECAUSE CHILDREN
DO BEST WHEN THEY'RE RAISED
IN AN ENVIRONMENT WITH A MOM
AND A DAD.
SAME-SEX MARRIAGE AS A
POLICY MATTER WOULD SAY THAT
CHILDREN DON'T NEED MOMS OR
DADS.
Reporter: AND
SUPPORTERS URGE THE COURT TO
ALLOW DEMOCRACY TO PLAY OUT,
AND EVEN SOME PROTESTORS
THINK THAT IS WHAT WILL
HAPPEN IN THE END.
THERE IS A CHANCE THAT
DOMA WILL STILL BE THERE,
BUT I THINK OVER TIME THERE
WILL BE GAY MARRIAGE.
Reporter: TODAY'S
HEARING COMES AFTER THE
COURT HEARD THE FIRST GAY
MARRIAGE CASE ON TUESDAY.
CBN'S JOHN JESSUP WAS AT THE
COURT FOR THE CHALLENGE TO
CALIFORNIA'S PROPOSITION 8,
HERE IS HIS REPORT.
Reporter: TWO DAYS, TWO
HEARINGS, AND TWO POLAR
POINTS OF VIEW.
AND BOTH SIDES DELIVERED
STRONG SHOWINGS AT THE
COURT.
GAY, STRAIGHT, BLACK,
WHITE, MARRIAGE IS A CIVIL
RIGHT.
Reporter: THE JUSTICES
TOOK UP THE CHALLENGE TO
PROPOSITION 8, THAT DEFINES
MARRIAGE AS BETWEEN A MAN
AND A WOMAN, AND EFFECTIVELY
BANS GAY MARRIAGE.
AFTER 80 MINUTES OF ORAL
ARGUMENTS, EVEN QUESTIONING
WHETHER THE CASE SHOULD BE
JUDGED BY THIS COURT,
ATTORNEYS ON BOTH SIDES
SOUNDED CAUTIOUSLY
OPTMISTIC.
WE DON'T KNOW FOR HUIR
WHAT THE UNITED STATES
SUPREME COURT IS GOING TO
DO, BUT WE'RE VERY GRATIFIED
THEY LISTENED, THEY HEARD,
AND THEY ASKED HARD
QUESTIONS.
A VICTORY HERE FOR US
MEANS THIS ISSUE RETURNS TO
THE PEOPLE IN THEIR
LEGISLATURES, AND THEIR
STATES, WHERE THEY BELONG.
HEY, HEY, GO HOME.
Reporter: OPPONENTS OF
GAY MARRIAGE MET ON THE
NATIONAL MALL TO MARCH IN
SUPPORT OF TRADITIONAL
MARRIAGE.
IT IS IMPORTANT TO ME,
AND IT IS IMPORTANT FOR MY
CHILDREN, THAT THE
DEFINITION OF MARRIAGE
REMAINS BETWEEN ONE MAN AND
ONE WOMAN.
Reporter: OLD AND
YOUNG, THEY CARRIED SIGNS
AND WALKED HAND-IN-HAND TO
THE SUPREME COURT.
WHERE THEY CLASHED WITH
PROTESTORS RALLYING FOR
SAME-SEX MARRIAGE.
ONE WOMAN, ONE MAN.
NO HATE.
WE JUST DISAGREE.
Reporter: THIS MAN FROM
MARYLAND SAYS THE SCENERY
DIEWFD HI SCENE REDUCED HIM
TO TEARS.
Reporter: WHAT HAS
BROUGHT YOU TO TEARS.
I WANT TO PERSONALLY
REPENT FOR EVERYTHING I HAVE
DONE.
IF WE DO NOT REPENT OF OUR
SINS, WE WILL NOT RECOVER.
AMERICA WILL NOT RECOVER.
Reporter: SO FIRST
STREET BEFORE THE SUPERIOR
COURT, IS MUCH LIKE THE
DIVIDE IN THE COUNTRY.
YOU HAVE SUPPORTERS OF
TRADITIONAL MARRIAGE, AND ON
THE OTHER, YOU HAVE THOSE IN
FAVOR OF SAME-SEX MARRIAGE.
THOSE SUPPORTERS OF SAME-SEX
MARRIAGE RALLIED.
WITH PEOPLE LIKE THE FIRST
OPENLY GAY BISHOP.
HE TOLD CBN NEWS THAT THE
FIGHT IS REALLY ABOUT LOVE.
AT THE END OF THE DAY,
THE FIGHT IS ABOUT LOVE.
IF LOVE IS THERE, THEN GOD
IS THERE.
Reporter: THE PASTOR IS
ONE WHO PUSHED PROPOSITION 8
TO A VOTE.
HE SAID THE FIGHT IS ABOUT
EXPANDING A LIBERAL AGENDA.
THERE ISN'T THAT MUCH
INTEREST IN MARRIAGE OR
COMMITMENT AND MO MONOGAMY,
IT'S ABOUT A RIGHT.
THAT LOVE IS AS DESERVING
AND AS IMPORTANT AS A LOVE
FOR STRAIGHT PARENTS.
THERE IS A LOT OF LOVE IN
THE AIR HERE, AND I COULDN'T
BE MORE PROUD TO BE HERE
WITH MY DAD.
IT IS REALLY EXCITING.
Reporter: JOHN JESSUP,
CBN NEWS, THE SUPREME
COURT.
Pat: MARRIAGE, LADIES
AND GENTLEMEN, HAS BEEN THE
FOUNDATION OF OUR SOCIETY.
A STABLE HOME, A HUSBAND, A
WIFE, AND CHILDREN.
AND THIS HAS BEEN THE
FOUNDATION OF OUR SOCIETY
SINCE THE FOUNDING OF OUR
GREAT REPUBLIC.
AND NOW IT IS UNDER ATTACK.
A FEW PEOPLE WANT TO HAVE
THEIR WAY OF DOING SEX
AFFIRMED BY EVERYBODY ELSE.
AND THEY SAY IT'S HOMOPHOBIA
TO BELIEVE THAT A MARRIAGE
BETWEEN A MAN AND A WOMAN IS
SANCTIONED BY GOD.
GOD IS NOT A HOMOPHOBE.
GOD IS IN CHARGE OF THE
WORLD, AND THIS IS THE WAY
HE MADE IT.
WHY?
BECAUSE THIS IS THE WAY YOU
CAN HAVE CHILDREN.
TWO MEN DO NOT HAVE
CHILDREN.
TWO WOMEN DO NOT HAVE
CHILDREN.
THIS IS A MATTER BETWEEN A
MAN AND A WOMAN.
THAT'S THE WAY GOD MADE IT.
SOME MILITARY CHAPLAINS ARE
ALREADY WARNING IF THE
DEFENSIVE MARRIAGE ACT IS
STRUCK DOWN, IT COULD HURT
FREEDOM OF SPEECH.
Reporter: A RULING
AGAINST DOMA COULD PUT
MILITARY CHAPLAINS AT
GREATER RISK FOR
DISCRIMINATION.
RON CRUZ HEADS THE CHAPLAIN
ALLIANCE FOR RELIGIOUS
LIBERTY.
HE SAYS IF DOMA IS STRUCK
DOWN.
CHAPLAINS WILL FIND THEIR
VOICES SILENCED AND THEIR
CAREERS DAMAGED.
IS THE BIBLE LOSING ITS
INFLUENCE IN AMERICA?
A NEW REPORT BY THE AMERICAN
BIBLE SOCIETY RAISES THAT
QUESTION.
IT'S ANNUAL "THE STATE OF
THE BIBLE REPORT" FINDS THAT
77% OF THOSE SURVEYED
BELIEVE VALUES AND MORALS IN
THE U.S. ARE DECLINING.
ONE-THIRD OF THEM SAY IT IS
BECAUSE WE DON'T READ THE
BIBLE ENOUGH.
THE SURVEY ALSO REVEALS A
GAP BETWEEN BELIEFS AND
ACTION.
FOR INSTANCE, 66% SAY THEY
BELIEVE THE BIBLE HAS
EVERYTHING A PERSON NEEDS TO
LIVE A MEANINGFUL LIFE.
BUT 58% SAY THEY DON'T WANT
THE WISDOM AND ADVICE THAT
THE BIBLE HAS TO OFFER.
57% SAY THEY READ THE
SCRIPTURES FEWER THAN FIVE
TIMES A YEAR.
I SPOKE WITH JEFF MORIN OF
THE AMERICAN BIBLE SOCIETY
ABOUT THE SURVEY, AND ASKED
HIM ABOUT THE REPORT'S
FINDING THAT AN INCREASING
NUMBER OF AMERICANS ARE
ANTAGONISTIC TOWARDS THE
BIBLE.
OUR 2013 STUDY DOES SHOW
A NATION DIVIDED, AND THE
CRACKS ARE SHOWING.
WE LOOK AT THE POSITIVE
INFORMATION THAT IS
AVAILABLE ABOUT THE BIBLE,
BUT, ALSO, THERE ARE
CHALLENGES.
SO THERE ARE SIX MILLION
MORE, FROM LAST YEAR TO THIS
YEAR, SIX MILLION MORE OF
WHAT WE CALL BIBLE
ANTAGONISTS.
THEY ARE SAYING THEY'RE NOT
JUST NE NEUTRAL ON THE
BIBLE, DON'T READ THE BIBLE,
BUT ARE AGAINST READING THE
BIBLE.
Wendy: BUT HE POINTS
OUT THAT THE BIBLE IS STILL
THE NUMBER ONE SELLING BOOK
IN AMERICA.
ISN'T THAT INTERESTING THAT
PEOPLE ARE BECOMING MORE
ANTAGONISTIC TOWARDS THE
WORD OF GOD?
Pat: I WOULDN'T MAKE
TOO MUCH OF THAT.
THE BIG PROBLEM IS APATHY.
NOT REALLY ANTAGONISM.
I THINK IN THE YOUNGER
GENERATION, THERE IS A WHOLE
NEW MOVE TOWARDS
UNDERSTANDING THE BIBLE AND
ABIDING BY ITS PRINCIPLES.
THE WORD OF GOD STANDS.
THE WORD OF GOD STANDS.
SOMEBODY SAID IT IS LIKE A
LION.
YOU DON'T HAVE TO DEFEND A
LION, JUST TURN HIM LOOSE.
I THINK THE SAME THING WITH
THE WORD OF GOD.
IT IS QUICK AND POWERFUL,
AND SHARPER THAN A TWO-EDGED
SWORD.
Wendy: THE GOVERNOR OF
FLORIDA WANTS MORE
INFORMATION ABOUT A
CLASSROOM LESSON INVOLVING
STOPPING ON A PAPER WITH THE
NAME JESUS ON IT.
HE HAS ASKED THE SYSTEM TO
LOOK INTO THE LESSON.
THE LESSON IS SUPPOSED TO
DEAL WITH THE POWER OF
CERTAIN WORDS, BUT ONE
STUDENT, RYAN, ROTELLA,
REFUSED.
HE WAS A STRONG MORMON, AND
SAID IT WOULD OFFEND HIS
RELIGIOUS BELIEF.
HE WAS SUSPENDED.
THE SCHOOL HAS APOLOGIZED
FOR THE ASSIGNMENT, AFTER
DEFENDING IT AT FIRST.
THE GOVERNOR SAYS THE LESSON
WAS OFFENSIVE AND
INTOLERANT.
THE PRICE OF OIL COULD FALL
IN THE NEXT DECADE.
AN ANALYST WITH CITIGROUP
SAYS ONE REASON IS BECAUSE
THE UNITED STATES IS GOING
TO START REDUCING MORE
NATURAL GAS.
HE ALSO SAYS CARS AND TRUCKS
ARE GETTING MORE
FUEL-EFFICIENT, SO THEY
WON'T NEED AS MUCH FUEL.
CITIGROUP ANALYST SAYS BOTH
OF THOSE FACTORS WILL CUT
DOWN ON THE DEMAND FOR OIL,
AND THAT COULD LEAD TO LOWER
PRICES.
AND THAT WOULD BE VERY NICE,
PAT.
Pat: WENDY, THE NICE
THING ABOUT THIS NATURAL GAS
IS THAT MANY BUSINESSES ARE
SWITCHING TO NATURAL GAS.
AND IT MEANS THAT OUR BASIC
INDUSTRIES, ESPECIALLY OUR
CHEMICAL INDUSTRY, IS GOING
TO BE TREMENDOUSLY
COMPETITIVE IN THE WORLD
MARKET BECAUSE WE'LL HAVE
THE ACCESS TO THE CHEAPEST
NATURAL GAS ON THE PLANET.
AND THIS SOMETHING THE
FEDERAL GOVERNMENT HAS
DOBE.
DONE.
WHAT WE'RE ASKING IS WILL
THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT
PLEASE STAY OUT OF IT.
JUST KEEP YOUR HANDS OFF
THIS DEAL AND LET PRIVATE
ENTERPRISE DO ITS THING, AND
LOOK AT THE PROSPERITY THAT
IS COMING ABOUT.
I WAS READING AN ARTICLE A
FEW MINUTES AGO ABOUT THE
RESURGENCE OF RAILROADS.
AND GREAT, LONG TRAINS ARE
LINING UP IN NORTH DAKOTA,
AND BEING FILLED UP WITH
OIL, AND THEY'RE ON THEIR
WAY TO THE WEST COAST.
AND OTHER TRAIN TAKES THEIR
PLACE BECAUSE OF THE
TREMENDOUS OIL BOOM THAT IS
TAKING PLACE ON PRIVATE
LAND, BY PRIVATE ENTER
ENTERPRISE IN THIS FRACKING
REVOLUTION THAT WE'RE
SEEING.
CONGRATULATIONS.
LET'S NOT BURDEN THE
PETROLEUM INDUSTRY WITH
UNNECESSARY REGULATIONS.
LET THEM DO THEIR THING.
AND BLESS US ALL.
SOME FEDERAL PLANS TO
MONITOR PRIVATE E-MAILS IS
SPARKING ACTION AT THE STATE
LAW.
IN CALIFORNIA, ONE LAW MAKER
HAS INTRODUCED A BILL TO
HELP PROTECT ELECTRONIC
COMMUNICATIONS.
Reporter: IF LAW
ENFORCEMENT WANT TO READ
YOUR COMMUNICATIONS BY CARDS
AND LETTERS, THEY MUST GET A
WARRANTS.
ON THE COMPUTER, IT IS A
DIFFERENT STORY.
IF YOU'VE ALREADY OPENED
YOUR MAIL OR THE MESSAGE IN
THE IN BOX IS MORE THAN SIX
MONTHS OLD, FEDERAL AGENCIES
CAN LOOK AT THEM.
THE LAW IS VERY
CONFUSING, AND HAS PERMITTED
THE GOVERNMENT TO SEARCH
YOUR E-MAILS, HELD BY
PROVIDERS WITHOUT A
WARRANT.
Reporter: E-MAIL
PRIVACY GOT NATIONAL BILLING
WHEN DAVID PETRAEUS'
EXTRA-MARITAL AFFAIR WAS
DISCOVERED BY PERSONAL
E-MAILS.
STATE SENATOR MARK LENO
WANTS TO MAKE SURE
INVESTIGATORS HAVE TO GET A
SUBPOENA WHEN IT COMES TO
SEARCHING ELECTRONIC
COMMUNICATIONS.
ALL WE'RE SAYING IS YOU
NEED TO GO TO A COURT, MAKE
THE CASE THAT THERE IS A
REASONABLE CAUSE TO BELIEVE
THAT SOME ILLEGAL ACTIVITY
IS ON GOING.
Reporter: LENO
SPONSORED A BILL LAST YEAR
THAT PASSED THE LEGISLATURE,
EVEN THOUGH IT WAS OPPOSED
BY TOP WIRELESS PROVIDERS,
SUCH AS VERIZON AND AT&T.
THEY SAID IT WOULD UNDULY
BURDEN WIRELESS PROVIDERS
AND EMPLOYEES WITH MULTIPLE
NUMBERS OF REQUESTS FROM
AUTHORITIES FOR
INFORMATION.
AND POLICE WERE ALSO OPPOSED
TO IT, SAYING IT WOULD SLOW
DOWN CRIMINAL
INVESTIGATIONS.
GOVERNOR JERRY BROWN VETOED
THE BILL.
NOW WITH HOME LAND SECURITY
SECRETARY JANET NAPOLITANO
SAYING THAT THE PERSONAL
GOVERNMENT WILL CRACK
PERSONAL E-MAILS, LENO IS
TRYING AGAIN FOR PROTECTION
AT THE STATE LEVEL.
JOHN WAGGI, CBN NEWS.
THANKS, JOHN.
A DIET RICH IN SOY COULD
HELP WOMEN FIGHTING LUNG
CANCER LIVE LONGER.
THEY STUDIED THE DIETS OF
NEARLY 75,000 CHINESE WOMEN
FOR A WHOLE DECADE.
IT FOUND THAT WOMEN WHO ATE
A HIGH SOY DIET BEFORE THEY
WERE DIAGNOSED WERE 20% MORE
LIKELY TO BE ALIVE THAN
THOSE WHO DIDN'T.
RESEARCHERS SAY ONLY 15% OF
WOMEN WHO DEVELOPED LUNG
CANCER ARE STILL ALIVE AFTER
THEIR DYINGNIZES.
A SIMILAR STUDY REPORTED
THAT WOMEN WHO ATE LOTS OF
SOY WERE LESS LIKELY TO
DEVELOP LUNG CANCER IN THE
FIRST PLACE.
I'VE HEARD GOOD THINGS AND
BAD THINGS ABOUT SOY.
I'M CONFUSED.
Pat: WENDY, YOU'RE
RIGHT.
I'M A FAN OF SOY, BUT THEY
FOUND MORE AND MORE ESTROGEN
IN IT, AND WOMEN WHO ARE
PRONE TO BREAST CANCER WOULD
FIND THAT SOY WOULD
ACCELERATE THE GROWTH OF
THOSE CANCEROUS CELLS.
SO THE JURY IS STILL OUT ON
SOY.
I'M A GREAT FAN OF SOY.
I THINK IT IS TERRIFIC.
BUT, NEVERTHELESS, THERE ARE
SOME DOWN SIDES, AND THAT'S
WHAT THE DOWNSIDE IS, FOR
WOMEN, THIS ESTROGEN THING.
AND FOR MEN, I DON'T THINK
MEN ARE ALL THAT KEEN ON
TAKING TOO MUCH ESTROGEN
INTO THEIR BODIES.
THEY WANT MUSCLE-BUILDING
TESTOSTERONE.
Wendy: THAT'S TRUE.
Kristi: WENDY LITERALLY
TOOK THE WORDS OUT OF MY
MOUTH BECAUSE THERE ARE SO
MANY PROS AND CONS.
ISN'T THAT THE CASE WITH ALL
OF THE RESEARCH.
UP NEXT, WE'RE GOING TO TAKE
YOU TO THE SCENE OF A
TERRORIST ATTACK THAT IS ALL
TOO REAL, ONLY IT ISN'T.
SEE WHERE EMERGENCY WORKERS
TRAIN FOR DISASTERS WHEN WE
COME BACK.
Pat: THE NEWS IS FULL
OF THESE REPORTS, NATURAL
DISASTERS, MASSIVE TRAFFIC
ACCIDENTS, TERRORIST
ATTACKS.
WELL, WHEN DISASTER STRIKES,
FIRST RESPONDERS HAVE TO BE
ON THE SCENE QUICKLY.
AND THEY HAVE TO WORK AS A
TEAM.
THEY ALSO HAVE TO PRACTICE
WHAT TO DO SO THAT THEY CAN
BE PREPARED.
OUR CHUCK HOLTON TAKES US
UNDERGROUND TO SHOW HOW
THESE RESPONDERS TRAIN FOR
EMERGENCIES.
HERE IS CHUCK.
HELP!
Reporter: A TERRORIST
EVENT IN A CROWDED SUBWAY.
DEAD AND WOUNDED LITTER THE
STATION, WHILE RESCUERS RUSH
IN TO HELP.
FORTUNATELY, THIS IS ONLY AN
EXERCISE.
BUT FOR THE TRAINERS IN THIS
SCENARIO, IT DOESN'T FEEL
THAT WAY.
FIRST RESPONDERS FROM AROUND
THE NATION TRAVEL HERE, TO
THE MOUNTAINS OF WEST
VIRGINIA, TO GO
UNDERGROUND.
WE WILL TAKE UNITS FROM
THROUGHOUT THE COUNTRY,
SUPPORT TEAMS, CIVILIAN
FIRST RESPONDERS, AND WE
WILL TAILER EXERCISES TO
WHAT THEIR COMMANDERS NEED.
WHETHER IT BE A DRUG
LABORATORY, A COLLAPSED
PARKING STRUCTURE, A MOCK
HOSTAGE RESCUE, TO ACTUAL
EXTRACTION FROM COLLAPSED
STRUCTURES OUTSIDE AS WELL.
Reporter: A TUNNEL THAT
WAS ONCE PART OF A STATE
TURNPIKE SERVES A NEW
PURPOSE: TAKING DISASTER
RESCUE TO A WHOLE NEW
LEVEL.
WE CAN HAVE SMOKE IN
HERE, AND THE ECHO IN THE
TUNNEL SHOWS THE REALISM.
YOU'LL HAVE JACK HAMMERS,
AND PEOPLE CRYING FOR HELP.
Reporter: TODAY'S
EXERCISE, A SIMULATED TERROR
ATTACK ON A SUBWAY TRAIN.
LOCAL WEST VIRGINIANS SERVE
AS VICTIMS, AND THE TRAINING
UNIT CAME ALL THE WAY FROM
PORTLAND, OREGON.
A RESPONSE LIKE THIS,
THIS TYPE OF SCENARIO, IS
VERY RARE.
THAT'S WHY WE TRAVEL FROM
PORTLAND TO DO IT.
WE TRAIN ROUTINELY, BUT YOU
DO NOT GET A TUNNEL AND A
RAIL CAR WHERE YOU CAN
CONTROL THE SMOKE AND THE
VICTIMS.
WE COME IN AND DO A SWEEP
OF THE SCENE AND DETERMINE
IF WE CAN WORK AROUND THEM.
WHAT WE'RE DOING IS TRYING
TO GET THOSE FOLKS OUT OF
HARM'S WAY WHILE OUR D.O.T.
GUY RENDERS THEM OKAY.
Reporter: A MAJOR CAR
PILEUP INSIDE A TUNNEL LIKE
THIS WOULD BE A NIGHTMARE
DISASTER.
IT WOULD SEE ALL AGENCIES
CONVERGING ON THE SCENE.
IF THEY HAVE NEVER WORKED
TOGETHER BEFORE, THEY MIGHT
NOT BE ABLE TO DO IT AS
EFFECTIVELY.
THESE ARE THE GUYS THAT
ARE GOING TO SHOW UP, AFTER
THE FIRST RESPONDERS ARE
THERE, AND THESE ARE THE
PEOPLE THAT ARE GOING TO
SHOW UP AND BE THE HEAVY
LIFTERS.
THEY BRING THE HEAVY
EQUIPMENT AND THE PERSONNEL
THAT ARE NEEDED TO DO A VERY
LARGE EVENT.
Reporter: EMERGENCY
WORKERS COME FROM FAR AND
WIDE BECAUSE THIS LEVEL OF
REALISM ISN'T AVAILABLE
ANYWHERE ELSE.
THIS IS THE FIRST TIME IN
A LONG TIME WE HAVE ACTUALLY
HAD LIFE ACTORS.
I THINK THE LIVE ACTORS
PROVIDE A SENSE OF REALISM
AND EMERGENCY.
WE HOPE WE NEVER HAVE TO
USE THIS, BUT THE MORE
PREPARED WE ARE, THE BETTER
WE ARE IN CASE SOMETHING
HAPPENS.
Reporter: THE MILITARY
GETS TO USE THE TUNNEL AS
WELL.
HERE UNITED STATES MARINES
CONDUCT CHEMICAL AND
BIOLOGICAL TRAINING IN A
SIMULATED DRUG LAB.
SPECIAL OPERATIONS ALSO
COME FROM AROUND THE COUNTRY
TO TRAIN IN THIS SPECIALLY
CONSTRUCTED CAVE COMPLEX,
WHICH IS BUILT TO LOOK JUST
LIKE THE ONES IN
AFGHANISTAN.
IT DOESN'T GET MUCH MORE
REALISTIC THAN THIS.
IN THE MOUNTAINS OUTSIDE
CHARLESTON, WEST VIRGINIA,
I'M CHUCK HOLTON FOR CBN
NEWS.
Pat: CLUCK IS OUR GO
TO, BOOM-BOOM MAN.
Kristi: HE IS LIKE G.I.
JOE.
Pat: HE IS TERRIFIC.
Kristi: LATER WE'LL
BRING IT ON WITH YOUR E-MAIL
QUESTIONS.
JOHN SAYS, WHAT IS THE
SIGNIFICANCE OF THE EGGS AND
BUNNIES DURING THE
CELEBRATION OF EASTER.
MY SON ASKED ME THE SAME
QUESTION THIS MORNING.
"IS IT WRONG IF I ALLOW MY
CHILDREN TO CELEBRATE WITH
EASTER EGGS AND BUNNIES AND
EASTER EGG HUNTS?"
WE'RE GOING TO TACKLE THAT
AND MORE.
BUT FIRST, MEET AN ALCOHOLIC
WHO WAS SO DRUNK THAT NOT
EVEN A REMAB CLINIC WOULD
TAKE HIM.
THE GUY SAYS, YOU CAN'T
COME IN HERE BECAUSE I HAVE
150 GUYS IN HERE TRYING TO
GET SOBER.
I CAN'T LET YOU IN.
Kristi: HEAR WHAT HE
SAYS, UP NEXT.
Pat: I WANT TO
INTRODUCE YOU TO JIM
CHRISTENSEN.
JIM LOVED A GOOD DRINK.
HE LOVED A GOOD ANYTHING,
ACTUALLY, FROM BEER TO CRACK
TO HUFFING GLUE.
FOR DECADES, JIM CHRISTENSEN
TOOK IN AS MUCH JUNK AS HIS
BODY COULD HANDLE, AND HE
WOULDN'T STOP.
UNTIL ONE DAY IN REHAB JIM
PUT DOWN THE BOTTLE AND
PICKED UP A BIBLE.
THREE, TWO, ONE!
Reporter: AS A YOUNG
BOY GROWING UP IN CHICAGO,
JIM CHRISTENSEN EXCELLED IN
SCHOOL AND SPORTS.
BUT WHEN HE GOT TO BE A
TEENAGER, HIS LIFE CHANGED.
HIS MOTHER, WHO HAD BEEN
ABUSED WHEN SHE WAS A
TEENAGER, TOOK HER ANGER OUT
ON HIM.
I WAS NEVER GOOD ENOUGH.
NONE OF US WERE.
SHE ALWAYS COMPARED US TO
OTHERS.
AND I'LL NEVER AMOUNT TO
ANYTHING, I WAS TOLD.
I'M NO GOOD.
Reporter: THE CONSTANT
CRITICISM TOOK ITS TOLL.
ONE DAY I'M BUILDING A
MODEL AND I STARTED TO SNIFF
THE GLUE THAT I USED TO
BUILD IT.
Reporter: JIM STARTED
DRINKING AND DOING DRUGS.
HE WAS KICKED OUT OF SCHOOL
AND JOINED THE ARMY AT 17.
TWO YEARS IN, HE WAS BUSTED
FOR DRUNK POSSESSION AND
DISHONORABLY DISCHARGED.
BACK IN CIVILIAN CLOTHES,
JIM MET AND EVENTUALLY
MARRIED MARTHA.
HE WAS FUNNY.
HE WAS OUTGOING.
HE WAS WITTY.
HE WAS EVERYTHING THAT I
WASN'T.
Reporter: MARTHA KNEW
JIM USED DRUGS OCCASIONALLY,
BUT SHE DIDN'T KNOW HE WAS
SNORTING COKE EVERY DAY.
MY NOSE WOULD START TO
BLEED.
BECAUSE OF THAT, I WOUND UP
GETTING INTRODUCED TO CRACK
COCAINE.
Reporter: A HEAVY CRACK
BINGE BROUGHT ON A HEART
ATTACK.
A DOCTOR TOLD JIM IF HE
SMOKED CRACK EVEN ONE MORE
TIME, HE COULD DIE.
I REALIZED THIS THING HAS
TAKEN EVERYTHING THAT I LOVE
FROM ME.
IT WAS MY NUMBER ONE
PRIORITY.
NOT MY CHILDREN, NOT MY
WIFE, NOT MY JOB.
Reporter: JIM CLEANED
UP HIS ACT FOR ABOUT A
MONTH.
THEN ONE DAY SOMEBODY PUT
IT IN FRONT OF ME, AND AS
INSANE AS IT MAY SOUND, I
DID IT.
AND I SAT BACK, SCARED TO
DEATH, WAITING FOR MY HEART
TO BURST.
Reporter: JIM KEPT
JUICING CRACK, AND AFTER 20
YEARS IN THE PIZZA BUSINESS,
HE LOST HIS JOB.
WITH NO INCOME, HE TOOK
MONEY FROM HIS WIFE TO BUY
DRUGS.
AT THIS POINT IN TIME, I
WANTED SO MUCH TO HATE HIM.
BUT I DIDN'T.
I STILL LOVED HIM.
Reporter: EVENTUALLY
HIS FAMILY CONVINCED HIM TO
GO TO A SALVATION ARMY REHAB
CENTER.
HIS WIFE AND DAUGHTER
DROPPED HIM OFF, BUT HE
DIDN'T WANT TO KEEP HIS END
OF THE BARGAIN.
MY DAUGHTER AND MY WIFE
WERE YELLING FROM THE CAR TO
GO IN.
AND HE JUST KEPT WALKING
DOWN THE STREET.
HE WAS LIKE A COLD STONE,
JUST WALKING DOWN THE
STREET, LIKE HE DIDN'T EVEN
KNOW US.
AND FINALLY I SAID TO HER,
HONEY, WE'VE JUST GOT TO LET
HIM GO.
HE'S GOT TO DO WHAT HE'S GOT
TO DO.
AND ALL WE CAN DO IS PRAY
THAT GOD WILL KEEP HIM
SAFE.
AND IF HE DOESN'T, IT'S NOT
OUR FAULT.
AND I WALKED AND FOUND A
TAVERN, AND THEY DROVE OFF.
AND I SPENT MY LAST COUPLE
DOLLARS, GOT A COUPLE OF
BEERS, AND I SAYS, WELL,
OKAY, I'M READY.
AND THAT'S WHEN I WALKED
DOWN, BACK TO THE
REHABILITATION CENTER.
AND THE GUY AT THE DESK
SAYS, YOU CAN'T COME IN
HERE.
AND I SAYS WHY?
AND HE SAYS, YOU SMELL LIKE
ALCOHOL.
I'VE GOT 150 GUYS IN HERE
TRYING TO GET SOBER.
I CAN'T LET YOU IN.
WELL, IT WAS THE IN MIDDLE
OF WINTER, THE LAST WEEK OF
FEBRUARY, AND IT WAS COLD.
I WALKED THE STREETS ALL
NIGHT LONG.
I HADN'T EATEN FOR ABOUT
THREE DAYS.
I WAS STARTING TO COME DOWN
FROM THE DRUGS.
SO NOW I'M COLD AND I'M
HUNGRY AND PENNILESS.
Reporter: JIM FELT
COMPLETELY ABANDONED, BUT
GOD WAS WITH HIM.
THERE WAS SOMETHING
WALKING WITH ME.
I DON'T KNOW IF IT WAS AN
ANGEL, BUT THEY KEPT ME
SAFE.
I WAS WALKING SOME PRETTY
HARSH STREETS.
THEY WERE, LIKE, JIM, TAKE A
LOOK.
THIS IS YOUR LIFE.
I DIDN'T LIKE IT.
Reporter: JIM SOBERED
UP AND WAS ALLOWED TO CHECK
INTO THE REHAB CENTER.
THERE HE HAD ANOTHER
ENCOUNTER WITH GOD.
I WAS AT THE LOWEST POINT
OF MY LIFE, AND THERE WAS A
BIBLE SITTING ON THE BUNK.
I PICKED IT UP, AND AT THAT
MOMENT, I WAS SPOKEN TO.
AND I REMEMBER REAL CLEAR
THE WORDS SPOKEN TO ME WAS,
"JIM, IF YOU SERVE ME, I
WILL RENEW YOUR LIFE."
AND I WENT, WOW!
AT THAT MOMENT I REALIZED
THAT I WAS JUST GIVEN A
PROMISE.
AND AT THAT MOMENT, I WAS
FILLED WITH THIS HOPE.
THE SHAME, THE GUILT -- IT
JUST LEFT ME.
AND I JUST KNEW -- I KNEW
THAT EVERYTHING WAS GOING TO
BE OKAY.
Reporter: JIM GAVE HIS
LIFE TO CHRIST.
HE WAS IMMEDIATELY DELIVERED
FROM HIS CRACK ADDICTION.
BUT MARTHA COULDN'T BELIEVE
HE HAD CHANGED, SO SHE
WOULDN'T TAKE HIM BACK.
JIM MOVED IN WITH HIS SISTER
AND VOLUNTEERED AT HER
CHURCH.
I MADE A PROFESSION OF
FAITH AT THE EASTER SUNRISE
SERVICE.
TO STAY, I WANTED TO MAKE A
CONFESSION OF FAITH AMONGST
OTHER BELIEVERS.
Reporter: MEANWHILE,
MARTHA AND THEIR FIVE
CHILDREN HAD BEEN FORCED TO
MOVE INTO A ONE-BEDROOM
APARTMENT AFTER THE BANK
FORECLOSED ON THEIR HOME.
WHEN THE TWO YOUNGEST
WANTED TO GO OUT AND SEE
HIM, I FELT LIKE THEY
BETRAYED ME.
BECAUSE I WAS A GOOD
PARENT.
THEY WERE OUT THERE FOR
ALMOST A WEEK.
AND THEY CAME BACK AND THEY
WERE SO EXCITED.
AND I COULDN'T BELIEVE THAT
THEY WERE SO EXCITED FROM
SEEING THEIR DAD AFTER
EVERYTHING HE PUT US
THROUGH.
AND THEY WERE SAYING HOW DAD
LISTENS TO CHRISTIAN MUSIC.
DAD GOES TO CHURCH.
DAD DOESN'T SWEAR ANYMORE.
Reporter: JIM MOVED
BACK IN WITH HIS FAMILY.
IN TIME, MARTHA FORGAVE
HIM.
WHEN HE WOULD DRIVE ME TO
WORK, WE STARTED TO PRAY
TOGETHER.
AND I THINK THAT'S WHAT
BROUGHT US CLOSER.
Reporter: JIM'S FORMER
BOSS GAVE HIM ANOTHER SHOT
IN THE PIZZA BUSINESS.
HE STARTED BACK AS A BUSBOY,
WORKED HIS WAY UP TO
MANAGER, AND EVENTUALLY
BOUGHT THE SHOP HE MANAGED.
IT IS MY DREAM COME
TRUE.
I'VE ALWAYS WANTED A PIZZA
PLACE OF MY OWN.
Reporter: TODAY THE
BUSINESS IS THRIVING, AND
THREE OF HIS CHILDREN WORK
AT THE SHOP WITH HIM.
HE IS ALSO BACK IN UNIFORM.
LAST YEAR, EASTER SUNDAY,
I WAS ENROLLED AS A SOLDIER
IN THE SALVATION ARMY.
AND IN ORDER TO DO THAT, TO
WEAR THE UNIFORM, YOU CAN'T
DRINK, YOU CAN'T SMOKE OR DO
DRUGS.
TO WEAR THAT UNIFORM TODAY,
FOR ME, IS A SIGN OF VICTORY
THAT GOD HAS GIVEN IN MY
LIFE.
JESUS SAID THAT HE'S THE
LIGHT, AND HE IS THE LIGHT
THAT WILL GET YOU OUT OF
YOUR DARKNESS.
IT IS A MIRACLE, WHAT HE
HAS DONE.
HE SAVED MY LIFE.
WE HAVE TO GIVE UP LORDSHIP
OF OUR OWN LIFE AND LET
JESUS BE LORD, AND TRUST
HIM.
AND HE'LL SHOW YOU WHAT
HE'LL DO, AND IT'S AMAZING.
Pat: WHAT A TESTIMONY.
TRUST HIM, AND HE'LL SHOW
YOU WHAT HE CAN DO.
LISTEN, JESUS CHRIST IS
ABLE.
THE WONDER OF GOD.
THE WONDER OF GOD.
IF YOU'LL SERVE ME, I'LL
BLESS YOU.
IF YOU'LL SERVE ME, I'LL
BLESS YOU.
I DON'T WANT YOU TO DO
THINGS THAT HURT YOU.
I'M NOT TRYING TO RESTRICT
YOUR FREEDOM.
I WANT TO HELP YOU FROM
BEING HURT.
I WANT TO KEEP YOU OUT OF
TROUBLE.
AND I WANT TO BRING YOU INTO
A PLACE OF BOUNTY AND
BLESSING AND FULFILLMENT AND
JOY.
JOY UNSPEAKABLE AND FULL OF
GLORY.
THAT'S WHAT GOD INTENDS FOR
YOU.
NOT CONDEMNATION.
NOT A WHIP.
NOT CHAINS AND SHACKLES.
BUT FREEDOM.
FREEDOM.
HE WANTS YOU TO BE FREE.
AND IF YOU WOULD LIKE THAT
FREEDOM, ASK THE ONE WHO
DIED TO GIVE IT TO YOU.
HIS NAME IS JESUS.
AND WE WANT TO PRAY RIGHT
NOW.
AND IF YOU WILL PRAY WITH ME
AND YOU WILL SAY THESE WORDS
AND MEAN THEM IN YOUR HEART,
HE WILL HEAR, AND HE'LL
ANSWER.
DO YOU WANT TO BE FREE?
I KNOW YOU DO.
PRAY THESE WORDS.
JESUS -- THAT'S RIGHT, PRAY
WITH ME.
JESUS, I KNOW YOU DIED ON
THE CROSS FOR ME.
LORD, I'VE SINNED.
LORD, I'M UNWORTHY.
BUT, GOD, YOU SAID YOU LOVED
ME.
AND RIGHT NOW I COME TO YOU
WITH ALL MY PROBLEMS, AND I
SURRENDER EVERYTHING TO YOU
AT THIS MOMENT.
LORD, JESUS, I'M YOURS.
I ASK YOU TO COME NOW INTO
MY HEART.
LIVE YOUR LIFE IN ME, AND I
WILL LIVE FOR YOU.
AND I WILL SERVE YOU ALL THE
DAYS OF MY LIFE.
NOW, IF YOU PRAYED THAT
PRAYER WITH ME, I'M GOING TO
SEND YOU SOMETHING, IF
YOU'LL GIVE ME A CALL.
I HAD.
I HAD THE JOY SOMETIME AGO
OF GOING INTO OUR STUDIO
ROOM AND MAKING A COMPACT
DISC OF WHAT HAPPENS WHEN
YOU COME TO JESUS, WHEN
YOU'RE BORN AGAIN, WHEN YOU
HAVE AN EXCHANGED LIFE, WHEN
YOU'RE RESCUED FROM DEATH
AND BROUGHT INTO LIFE.
IT'S CALLED "A NEW DAY."
I'LL SEND IT TO YOU FREE IF
YOU'LL DO ME THE COURTESY
AND GIVE ME YOUR TELEPHONE
CALL.
IT IS CALLED "A NEW DAY."
IT'S FREE, ABSOLUTELY FREE.
CALL RIGHT NOW.
YOU JUST PRAYED WITH ME AND
YOU'RE FREE.
YOU FEEL SOMETHING WONDERFUL
GOING ON EN YOUR LIFE.
IT IS 1-800-
1-800-759-0700.
IT'S A TOLL-FREE NUMBER.
THIS WEEK CHRISTIANS MARK
WHAT IS CALLED HOLY WEEK,
EASTER SUNDAY, PALM SUNDAY,
AND SO FORTH.
EASTER IS THE DAY THAT WE
CELEBRATE, IS THE DAY WHEN
JESUS ROSE FROM THE GRAVE.
IN THIS VIDEO OF THE SKIT
GUYS, IT IS THE CONSUMMATE
EVENT IN THE LIFE OF THE ONE
WHO CHANGED THE WORLD.
* YOU ARE A GOOD SHEPHERD
* I HOLLER OUT FOR YOU
* YOU ARE A GOOD SHEPHERD
* YOU KNOW ME BY NAME
* MEET ME BY THE WATERS
* AND I WILL NEVER CHANGE
* YOU ARE A GOOD SHEPHERD
* YOU ARE ALL I NEED
* YOU BRING PERFECT PEACE
* YOU ARE A GOOD SHEPHERD
* YOU SAY IT'S TIME TO
* EVEN THOUGH I AM
SURROUNDED *
* YOU ARE A GOOD SHEPHERD
* YOU CALL ME YOUR OWN
* THE CUP WILL OVERFLOW
* YOU COULDN'T HAVE KNOWN
* YOU ARE MY GOOD
SHEPHERD *
* YOU SHOW ME LOVE
* MY CUP WILL OVERFLOW
* WITH YOUR GOODNESS
* WITH YOUR GOODNESS AND
LOVE *
*
Reporter: WELCOME BACK
TO "THE 700 CLUB."
THE GOVERNOR OF NORTH DAKOTA
HAS SIGNED LEGISLATION
EFFECTIVELY BANNING MOST
ABORTIONS IN THE STATE.
ONE MEASURE OUTLAWS THE
PROCEDURE IF A FEE FETAL
HEART BEAT CAN BE
DETICKETED.
ANOTHER MAKES NORTH DAKOTA
THE FIRST STATE TO BAN
ABORTIONS BASED ON GENITAL
EFFECTS.
THE MEASURES ARE SET TO TAKE
EFFECT AUGUST 1st, BUT THE
GOVERNOR ACKNOWLEDGES A
COURT BATTLE IS LIKELY.
PARENTS WILL BE ALLOWED TO
CHOOSE WHERE TO SEND THEIR
CHILDREN TO SCHOOL IN
INDIANA.
THE STATE SUPREME COURT HAS
UPHELD A SCHOOL VOUCHER LAW
THERE.
THE JUSTICES RULED THE LAW
DOES NOT VIOLATE A STATE
CONSTITUTIONAL BAN ON PUBLIC
FUNDS GOING TO RELIGIOUS
INSTITUTIONS.
THE COURT RULED INSTEAD THAT
THE VOUCHER LAW PRIMARILY
BENEFITS FAMILIES, NOT
SCHOOLS OR RELIGIOUS
GROUPS.
THE VOUCHERS ALLOW PARENTS
TO DECIDE HOW TO USE THEIR
TAX DOLLARS.
BEFORE THAT MONEY WOULD
AUTOMATICALLY BE GIVEN TO
THE PUBLIC SCHOOLS EVEN IF
THE CHILDREN ATTENDED
PRIVATE SCHOOLS.
YOU CAN ALWAYS GET THE
LATEST BY GOING TO
CBNNEWS.COM.
PAT AND KRISTI WILL BE BACK
WITH MORE OF "THE 700 CLUB"
RIGHT AFTER THIS.
Kristi: WELCOME BACK TO
"THE 700 CLUB."
WE'RE GOING TO JUMP RIGHT IN
WITH A QUESTION THAT I WANT
TO KNOW BECAUSE MY
9-YEAR-OLD SON ASKED ME THIS
VERY QUESTION THIS MORNING.
JOHN SAYS, "WHAT IS THE
SIGNIFICANCE OF THE EGGS AND
BUNNIES DURING THE
CELEBRATION OF EASTER.
ISN'T THE DAY ABOUT THE
RESURRECTION OF JESUS
CHRIST?
IS IT WRONG IF I ALLOW MY
CHILDREN TO CELEBRATE WITH
EASTER BASKETS, CHOCOLATE
BUNNIES AND EASTER EGG
HUNTS, AS LONG AS I TELL
THEM THE TRUE MEANING OF
EASTER?"
Pat: I DID A LITTLE BIT
OF RESEARCH TO MAKE SURE I
GOT IT RIGHT.
FIRST OF ALL, THERE IS NO
MENTION OF EASTER IN THE
BIBLE.
NONE.
THE WORD DOES NOT APPEAR IN
THE NEW TESTAMENT.
Kristi: OKAY.
Pat: IT IS IS TAKEN
FROM A GERMANIC GODDESS,
WESTRA, WHO WAS A SYMBOL OF
SPRING.
ALL RIGHT.
THIS GERMANIC GODDESS LIKED
RABBITS, FROM WHAT WE
GATHER.
THE TUTONIC PEOPLE HAD A
MYTH THAT RABBITS WERE
HERMAPHIDITES DID NOT NEED
TO HAVE SEX TO HAVE
BUNNIES.
Kristi: THAT'S WHAT
THEY BELIEVED?
Pat: THAT'S WHAT THEY
BELIEVED.
THE EGG, IN PAGAN MYTHOLOGY
IS THE SYMBOL OF SEX AND
REPRODUCTION.
AND IF YOU LOOK AT SOME OF
THE ANCIENT CATHEDRALS --
NOT CATHEDRALS -- ANCIENT
TEMPLES.
THEY HAVE THE EGG SYMBOL.
THEY HAVE THE FALAX SYMBOL
AND THE EGG.
SO IT IS ALL PAGAN.
SO THIS BUSINESS ABOUT
BUNNIES HAVE TO DO WITH
HERMAPHADITE BUNNIES HAVING
ALL KINDS OF BABIE BABIES.
NOW, WE CHECKED WITH
DISCOVERY CHANNEL, AND
CHECKED WITH THE UNIVERSITY
OF FLOR FLORIDA MARLINS,
UNIVERSITY OF FLORIDA.
IT IS TOTALLY, UTTERLY,
COMPLETELY PAGAN.
PAGAN FERTILITY SYMBOLS.
OKAY.
NOW, IS IT WRONG?
I MEAN, HEY, KIDS WANT
CANDIED EGGS --
Kristi: GOD BLESS
THEM.
Pat: GOD BLESS THEM.
BUT TELL THEM ABOUT JESUS.
DON'T ACT LIKE THIS HAS ANY
SPIRITUAL SIGNIFICANCE
WHATSOEVER.
IF YOU SAY, OKAY, WE'RE
GOING TO HAVE A HUNT FOR
CANDIED EGGS, GO OUT AND
HUNT FOR THEM.
THAT'S A GAME.
PLAY GAMES.
I DON'T SEE ANY SIN IN
THAT.
BUT IF YOU GET INTO THIS
STUFF, KEEP IN MIND WHERE IT
COMES FROM.
AND THE REALTIME WHEN JESUS
WAS CRUCIFIED WAS THE
PASSOVER.
AND SO THE CHURCH WENT
THROUGH A BIG DEAL OF TRYING
TO FIGURE OUT THE EXACT
TIME.
AND THE EASTERN CHURCH SPLIT
WITH THE WESTERN CHURCH.
SO IT IS TOO COMPLICATED TO
DISCUSS BECAUSE I DON'T
FULLY UNDERSTAND WHAT THEY
WERE DOING.
BUT, NEVERTHELESS, IT HAS TO
DO WITH THE VERNAL EQUINOX
AND IT HAS TO DO WITH THE
TIME OF THE FULL MOON, WHICH
PASSOVER IS THE TIME OF THE
FULL MOON, AND IT'S A COUPLE
OF WEEKS AFTER THAT.
YOU'LL FIND EASTER AND THE
PASSOVER CO QUI PASSOVER
COINCIDING ROUGHLY ON THE
CALENDAR.
Kristi: I'M LISTENING
TO YOU ANSWER THIS QUESTION,
AND I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT
HOW I AM GOING TO TELL MY
SON.
Pat: TELL YOUR SON IT
IS A PAGAN SYMBOL FROM THE
OLD TRIBES AND IT HAS
NOTHING TO DO WITH JESUS.
Kristi: AND THE GREAT
THING ABOUT EASTER IS THE
DEATH AND RESURRECTION OF
JESUS.
SARA SAYS, "MY HUSBAND WANTS
TO LEAVE OUR CHURCH BECAUSE
THEY DON'T HAVE A CROSS
ANYWHERE.
HE WAS SAVED THERE, BAPTIZED
THERE, AND WE WERE MARRIED
THERE.
BUT THIS IS BOTHERING SO
MUCH TO THE POINT WHERE HE
HATES GOING TO CHURCH.
DOES A CHURCH HAVE TO HAVE A
CROSS DISPLAYED IN ORDER FOR
GOD TO HONOR THE CHURCH?"
Pat: ABSOLUTELY NOT.
YOUR HUSBAND HAS GOT A
PROBLEM.
HE IS FOCUSING ON
NON-ESSENTIALS.
JESUS CHRIST SAID THEY THAT
WORSHIP GOD WORSHIP IN
SPIRIT AND TRUTH FOR GOD IS
A SPIRIT.
WE AREN'T HUNG UP ON LITTLE
CROSSES OR ICONS OR SYMBOLS
OF THAT NATURE.
GOD IS A SPIRIT.
WE COME TO CHURCH AND WE
WORSHIP IN SPIRIT.
AND THE FACT THAT THERE IS
NO CROSS -- WHAT DOES THE
CROSS TELL YOU?
SO, I MEAN, IT JUST ISN'T
SOMETHING YOUR HUSBAND
SHOULD BE HUNG UP ON.
BECAUSE IF HE IS, HE IS
PUTTING HIS MIND ON
NON-ESSENTIALS.
Kristi: BECAUSE THE
CHURCH ISN'T A BUILDING.
IT IS A BODY OF PEOPLE.
Pat: THE CHURCH IS
WHERE PEOPLE COME TOGETHER
TO WORSHIP GOD IN SPIRIT AND
IN TRUTH.
Kristi: "COULD YOU
PLEASE TELL ME WHAT IS THE
SIGNIFICANCE OF 40 DAYS AND
40 NIGHTS IN THE BIBLE.
WE SEE IT REPEATED ALL OF
THE TIME.
FOR EXAMPLE, NOW NOAH AND
THE FLOOD, MT. SINAI, AND
JESUS AFTER THE RESURRECTION."
Pat: FOUR IS THE NUMBER
OF EARTH.
10 IS THE NUMBER OF
COMPLETION.
FOUR TIMES 10 IS A
GENERATION, A TIME OF
COMPLETION.
TEN 40s IS THE TIME THE
ISRAELIS STAYED.
THREE IS THE NUMBER OF THE
TRINITY, AND YOU'VE GOT
THREE PLUS FOUR IS SEVEN,
AND FIVE IS THE NUMBER OF
GRACE -- YOU CAN GET ALL OF
THESE NUMBERS.
THAT'S THE SYMBOL OF THE 40
DAYS, IT'S A GENERATION.
Kristi: GOOD DEAL.
JULIE SAYS, "THE BIBLE SAYS
NOT TO HAVE ANY GRAVEN
IMAGE?
WOULD OUR WEDDING RINGS AND
OTHER PIECES OF JEWELRY FALL
INTO THAT CATEGORY?"
Pat: THEY'RE NOT
IMAGES.
AN IMAGE IS A REPRESENTATION
OF A PERSON.
THERE REALLY WEREN'T
SUPPOSED TO BE ANY STATUES,
I GUESS EVEN PAINTINGS.
IF YOU WANT TO CARRY THIS TO
EXTREME, YOU TAKE ALL OF THE
STATUES OUT AND YOU TAKE ALL
OF THE PAINTINGS OUT.
I DON'T THINK THAT GOD
REALLY IS APPLYING THAT TO
US TODAY.
BUT IT IS SO EASY, YOU KNOW,
IN SOME OF THE CHURCHES, THE
BIG CHURCHES, WHERE THERE IS
A STATUE OF A SAINT, AND
PEOPLE HAVE RUBBED HIS FEET
ALMOST DOWN BECAUSE THEY
THINK THERE IS SOME MAGIC
THERE.
IT IS EASIER TO KNEEL BEFORE
THE STATUE OF THE VIRGIN,
AND YOU THINK YOU'RE PRAYING
TO HER.
OR YOUR STATUE OF JESUS, AND
YOU'RE PRAYING TO HIM.
AND GOD SAID BASICALLY THE
REASON HIS NAME IS "I AM" OR
"HE WHO CAUSES EVERYTHING TO
BE," AND HE DOESN'T WANT TO
BE TIED DOWN.
HE DOESN'T WANT ANYBODY TO
SAY WHAT HE LOOKS LIKE
BECAUSE THEY DON'T KNOW.
HE IS GOD ALMIGHTY.
HE IS THE GROUND OF BEING,
AND YOU CAN'T MAKE A STATUE
OUT OF BEING.
THAT'S WHY THE COMMANDMENT
IS THERE.
OUR GOD IS A SPIRIT.
AND THEY THAT WORSHIP MUST
WORSHIP IN SPIRIT AND IN
TRUTH.
Kristi: YOU GOT ME
REVVED UP A BIT TOWARDS THE
END.
I WAS ABOUT TO GET A
TAMBOURINE.
I THINK WE'RE DONE, PAT, BUT
ANY TIME YOU WANT TO ASK PAT
A QUESTION, IT IS SO EASY.
ALL YOU HAVE TO DO IS LOG ON
TO CBN.COM.
I'M SURE THERE IS AN ICON
THERE THAT SAYS, "ASK PAT A
QUESTION."
WHEN A HINDU FARMER NEEDED
CLEAN WATER, HE DECIDED TO
DO SOMETHING RADICAL.
HE PRAYED TO THE CHRISTIAN
GOD FOR HELP.
HERE IS EXACTLY WHAT
HAPPENED NEXT.
AND WE'RE GOING TO HEAR WHAT
HAPPENED NEXT AND HOW IT
CHANGED AN ENTIRE VILLAGE.
Reporter: RAISING
LIVESTOCK IN THE HILLS OF
NORTHWEST INDIA CAN BE A
VERY DIFFICULT JOB,
ESPECIALLY IF YOU DON'T HAVE
A CLOSE WATER SOURCE.
SOHAN HAD TO WALK TWO MILES
TO GET WATER FOR HIS FAMILY,
CATTLE, AND GOATS.
HE BEGGED HIS HINDDU GODS
FOR HELP, BUT NOTHING
CHANGED.
THEN A LOCAL PASTOR
ENCOURAGED HIM TO PRAY TO
JESUS.
IN MY HEART, I WOULD PRAY
TO JESUS EVERY MORNING,
NOONTIME, AND EVENING, FOR
WATER CLOSE TO MY HOME.
Reporter: IT WASN'T
LONG UNTIL SOHAN SAW HIS
PRAYERS ANSWERED.
CBN LIVING WATERSS TEAM CAME
TO HIS VILLAGE.
THIS WELL IS A BIG
BLESSING TO MY VILLAGE, IT
IS ALSO A BLESSING TO MY
CATTLE AND GOATS.
NOW I
CAN BATHE
THEM AND
GIVE THEM PLENTY OF
WATER TO
DRINK.
I AM SO HAPPY.
Reporter: SOHAN
AND
HILLS FAMILY GAVE THEIR
LIVES TO CHRIST, AND THEY
WEREN'T THE ONLY ONES.
168 OTHER VILLAGERS WERE
BAPTIZED BECAUSE THEY SAW
THE WELL AS A TANGIBLE SIGN
THAT GOD IS REAL
AND
HE
LOVES
THEM.
I BELIEVE JESUS CHRIST IS
THE ONE, TRUE GOD BECAUSE HE
GAVE ME WATER AFTER I PRAYED
FOR A WELL.
MY FAMILY DRINKS WATER FROM
IT AND THEY
ARE
HAPPY
AND AT
PIECE.
WHEN I DIE, I KNOW I WILL BE
IN HEAVEN WITH JESUS
CHRIST.
Kristi: WHAT A GREAT
STORY.
I'M WATCHING THAT STORY AND
I'M THINKING, THIS ONE MAN,
BECAUSE OF HIS FAITHFULNESS,
OTHER MEMBERS WERE BLESSED
BECAUSE OF HIM.
ISN'T THAT THE WAY IT IS?
WHEN WE HONOR THE LORD AND
OBEY, NOT ONLY DOES GOD
BLESS US, BUT SO MANY PEOPLE
ARE WATCHING AND THEY'RE
BLESSED IN TURN.
LISTEN, IF YOU BECOME A "700
CLUB" MEMBER, NOT ONLY WILL
YOU BE BLESSED, BUT YOU'LL
BLESS THE NATION.
WE NEED YOU.
CALL, 1-800-759-0700.
AND DON'T FORGET, "LIFE
BEYOND THE GRAVE, PART TWO"
IS OUR GIFT TO YOU WHEN YOU
BECOME A "700 CLUB"
PARTNER.
PAT?
Pat: THANK YOU.
PRAISE THE LORD.
THAT'S ALL OF THE TIME WE'VE
GOT FOR TODAY'S PROGRAM.
TOMORROW WE'RE GOING TO HAVE
A SPECIAL TIME OF COMMUNION,
AND WE'RE GOING TO REMEMBER
WHAT IS CALLED MUNDY
THURSDAY.
TODAY WE LEAVE YOU WITH
THESE WORDS FROM JESUS FROM
MATTHEW 17: "IF YOU HAVE
FAITH AS A MUSTARD SEED,
NOTHING WILL BE IMPOSSIBLE
FOR YOU."
THAT'S ALL OF THE TIME WE'VE
GOT.
WE INVITE YOU TO CALL WHEN
THE PROGRAM IS OFF THE AIR,
AND THE NUMBER IS
TOLL-FREE.
THANK GOD FOR EVERY ONE OF
YOU.
FOR WENDY AND KRISTI, THIS
IS PAT ROBERTSON.
SEE YOU TOMORROW.
BYE-BYE.