I'M OUT OF HERE.

Lee: A SECRET

ADDICTION.

ESCORTS AND PROSTITUTES,

AND WHATEVER YOU WANT TO

CALL THEM.

Lee: A TRAPPED WIFE.

I FEEL LIKE HIS BALL AND

CHAIN AT TIMES.

Lee: A BUSTED HUSBAND.

I CAME BACK TO AN EMPTY

HOUSE AND HER MARRIAGE RING

ON THE MANTEL.

Lee: AND A MARRIAGE ON

THE ROCKS.

ONE HALF OF MY LIFE HAS

COME CRASHING DOWN.

Lee: WHY THEY STUCK

TOGETHER.

GOD'S VOICE IS LOUDER TO

ME THAN ANYONE ELSE'S.

Lee: A SPECIAL EDITION

ON "THE 700 CLUB."

Pat: WELCOME TO "THE

700 CLUB."

BLACK SMOKE ISSUED FORTH

FROM THE SISTINE CHAPEL

YESTERDAY.

THAT MEANS NO POPE YET.

AND WE'VE ALSO -- HOW TALL

ARE YOU?

Kristi: 5' 7."

Pat: DO YOU BELIEVE

WE'RE GOING TO SHOW SEVEN

FEET OF REGULATIONS FOR THE

OBAMACARE?

THAT'S A FOOT AND A HALF

TALLER THAN YOU ARE.

Kristi: THAT'S PRETTY

TALL.

Pat: WE'LL SHOW

PICTURES OF WHAT IT LOOKS

LIKE.

AND YOU'VE GOT TO READ

THROUGH ALL OF IT TO GET

HEALTH CARE.

Kristi: REMEMBER THAT

WOMAN WHO HAD THAT BOOK, AND

IT WAS THIS LONG, WHO READ

ALL OF IT, AND I THINK SHE

WAS THE ONLY ONE WHO

ACTUALLY READ IT.

Pat: THEY'RE LOOKING

FOR A POPE OVER IN ROME WHO

WILL HAVE TO HANDLE SOME

TOUGH PROBLEMS FACING THE

CATHOLIC CHURCH.

Kristi: THE CATHOLIC

CHURCH IN LOS ANGELES HAS

REACHED A SETTLEMENT IN FOUR

SEX ABUSE CASES, AND IT IS

GOING TO COST THEM NEARLY

$10 MILLION.

IT IS JUST ONE OF THE ISSUES

THE NEXT POPE MUST DEAL

WITH.

HERE IS CHRIS MITCHELL FROM

ROME.

Reporter: EVEN IN THE

DIGITAL AGE, 115 CARDINALS

COMMUNICATE BY BLACK SMOKE.

HERE IN VATICAN CITY, THERE

IS AN AIR OF EXPECTATION OF

WHEN THE CARDINALS WILL

REACH THEIR DECISION, AND

WHO THE NEXT POPE WILL BE.

IF HISTORY IS ANY JUDGE, IT

MAY NOT BE THAT LONG.

I DON'T THINK IT WILL

TAKE MORE THAN TWO OR THREE

DAYS, AT MOST.

WE HAVEN'T HAD A CONCLAVE GO

OVER FIVE DAYS SINCE 1831.

SO IF THEY GO MORE THAN

THAT, THEN WE KNOW THEY HAVE

PROBLEMS, THAT THEY'RE

HAVING A DIFFICULTY.

Reporter: MANY

CATHOLICS WE TALK TO HERE

ARE MORE CONCERNED ABOUT

OVERALL CHURCH LEADERSHIP

THAN WHO BECOMES POPE.

WE EXPECT A GOOD LEADER

IN THIS AGE, WHERE THERE IS

A CRISIS ABOUT FAITH.

I THINK THEY HAVE LOST A

BIT OF VISION IN THE

FUTURE.

PERHAPS THIS ONE NEEDS TO

GIVE US THE RIGHT

DIRECTION.

I THINK THE POPE IS A

REFLECTION OF THE DIRECTION

THE CHURCH IS GOING TO GO

IN, AND WHAT THE CARDINALS

ARE THINKING.

Reporter: DR. THOMAS

REESE, AUTHOR OF "INSIDE THE

VATICAN," SAYS THE CHURCH

NEEDS TO CONFRONT ONE OF ITS

SERIOUS PROBLEMS.

WE HAVE TO ACKNOWLEDGE

THE SEX ABUSE CRISIS,

ESPECIALLY FOR THE CHILDREN

THAT WERE HARMED.

THE AMERICAN BISHOPS ARE

VERY CONCERNED THAT ANY POPE

THEY WANT TO SEE ELECTED HAS

TO BE INVOLVED IN ANY SEXUAL

ABUSE.

Reporter: HOW THE

CHURCH AND THE NEXT POPE

CONFRONTS THIS ISSUE AND THE

OTHER CHALLENGES FACING IT

REMAINS TO BE SEEN.

BUT THE WORLD WILL BE

WAGING.

THE PAPAL CONCLAVE IS

ATTRACTING WORLDWIDE

ATTENTION.

THEIR REPORTS WILL REACH

NEARLY EVER PLACE ON THE

GLOBE.

CHRIS MITCHELL, CBN NEWS,

VATICAN CITY, ROME.

Pat: THE POPE IS A

SPIRITUAL LEADER OF NOT ONLY

THE CATHOLICS, BUT MANY

OTHERS.

HIS PRONOUNCEMENTS HAVE

GREAT IMPACT IN THE WORLD.

MANY OF US DEEPLY ADMIRED

POPE JOHN PAUL II.

HE WAS LOVED BY PEOPLE IN

AMERICA, REGARDLESS OF THEIR

RELIGIOUS AFFILIATION.

AND I BELIEVE THE CURRENT

POPE IS A TREMENDOUS GUY.

HE JUST IS A LITTLE MORE

RESERVED THAN JOHN PAUL.

WE LOOK TO THE CATHOLICS TO

GIVE SOMETHING THAT WILL BE

A SYMBOL FOR THE RELIGIOUS

VIEWS OF THE CHRISTIANS

AROUND THE WORLD.

AND WE WISH THEM THE VERY

BEST.

YOU KNOW -- I WON'T SAY

ANYTHING MORE ABOUT THE SEX

ABUSE.

THEY'VE GOT THEIR PROBLEMS

AND THEY NEED TO DEAL WITH

IT.

THEY NEED TO DEAL WITH IT IN

THE SEMINARIES.

IT IS A TOUGH THING WHEN

YOU'VE GOT SOME OF THE

PROBLEMS THEY HAVE.

WELL, HERE IS SOME OTHER

GROUPS THAT HAVE PROBLEMS.

HERE AT HOME, THE BOY SCOUTS

ARE TAKING ON A MAJOR MORAL

DECISION.

LEE WEBB HAS THAT STORY FROM

THE CBN NEWS ROOM.

HERE IS LEE.

Lee: PAT, THE BOY

SCOUTS OF AMERICA IS

SURVEYING ITS MEMBERS TO

DETERMINE THEIR VIEWS ON

HOMOSEXUALITY.

THE 13-QUESTION SURVEY WAS

SENT TO MORE THAN A MILLION

ADULTS INVOLVED IN

SCOUTING.

IT ASKED HIM TO SHARE THEIR

VIEWS ON THE IMPACT OF

ALLOWING GAY SCOUT LEADERS

AND MEMBERS.

AND IT ALSO INCLUDES

HYPOTHETICAL SITUATIONS LIKE

THIS ONE: BOB IS 15 YEARS

OLD AND THE ONLY OPENLY GAY

IN A BOY SCOUT TROOP.

IT IS ACCEPTABLE OR

UNACCEPTABLE FOR THE TROOP

LEADER TO ALLOW BOB TO TENT

WITH ANOTHER BOY, WHO IS

HETEROSEXUAL.

DEMOCRATS IN THE SENATE HAVE

FINALLY PUT TOGETHER THEIR

FIRST BUDGET IN FOUR YEARS.

IT INCLUDES NEARLY A

TRILLION DOLLARS IN NEW

TAXES, BUT IT STILL DOESN'T

BALANCE THE BUDGET.

AND THERE ARE PLENTY OF

EXAMPLES OF GOVERNMENT

WASTE.

THE NATIONAL INSTITUTES OF

HEALTH, FOR EXAMPLE, IS

GIVING GRANTS OF

$1.5 MILLION TO FIND OUT WHY

THREE-QUARTERS OF LES

LESBIANSS ARE OBESE, BUT GAY

MALES ARE NOT.

AND THEY'RE SPENDING A

QUARTER OF A MILLION OF

DOLLARS TO STUDY PICTURES OF

ANIMALS IN NATIONAL

GEOGRAPHIC MAGAZINE.

AND DESPITE BUDGET CUTS, THE

GOVERNMENT HAS ADVERTISED

FOR 2600 NEW JOBS IN THE

LAST WEEK AND A HALF.

Pat: IT IS A TOTAL

FRAUD, WHAT HAS BEEN PUT

OUT, AND THE PRESIDENT HAS

GOT EGG ALL OVER HIS FACE.

AND THESE THINGS -- THEY'RE

GOING TO SPEND HOW MUCH

MONEY TO FIND OUT WHY

LESBIANS ARE FAT?

PLEASE.

I MEAN, THAT'S YOUR TAX

DOLLARS AT WORK.

YOU GO THROUGH A LIST OF THE

HORRIBLES OF WHAT GOES ON AT

THE GOVERNMENT, AND YOU SAY,

ARE THESE PEOPLE OUT OF

THEIR MIND?

AND YET THEY'RE BORROWING

MONEY FROM CHINA TO STUDY,

FOR EXAMPLE, THE IMPACT OF

ALCOHOL ON CHINESE

PROSTITUTES.

I MEAN, LIKE, WHO CARES?

MAYBE THE CHINESE CARE, BUT

WE SHOULDN'T BE PAYING OUR

TAX MONEY, NOR SHOULD WE BE

BORROWING FROM CHINA TO

STUDY THEIR PROBLEM.

WHEW!

DON'T GET ME STARTED.

ALL RIGHT, WELL, LEE, LET'S

LOOK AT SOMETHING ELSE.

Lee: PAT, PRESIDENT

OBAMA'S NEW POLICY GROUP,

ORGANIZING FOR ACTION, IS

HOLDING A SUMMIT IN

WASHINGTON, AND THE

PRESIDENT IS A FEATURED

SPEAKER.

THE WHITE HOUSE SAYS O.F.A.

IS DESIGNED TO HELP THE

MIDDLE CLASS.

BUT CRITICS FROM THE LEFT

AND THE RIGHT ARGUE IT LOOKS

MORE LIKE A LOBBYING GROUP

TO PUSH THE PRESIDENT'S

AGENDA.

JENNIFER WISHON EXPLAINS.

Reporter:

SOME WATCHDOG

GROUPS CALL IT A SCANDAL

WAITING TO HAPPEN, AND

THEY'RE ASKING PRESIDENT

OBAMA TO SHUT DOWN WHAT THEY

CALL A NEW DANGEROUS ARM OF

HIS PRESIDENCY.

THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT

"ORGANIZING FOR ACTION," THE

NON-PROFIT CREATED OUT OF

THE PRESIDENT'S RE-ELECTION

MACHINE, OBAMA FOR AMERICA.

IT IS DESIGNED TO REDIRECT

THE POWER OF HIS POLITICAL

CAMPAIGN TO BACK HIS POLICY

AGENDA,

DEPLOYING

RESOURCES

TO PROMOTE ITEMS LIKE GUN

CONTROL, IMMIGRATION REFORM,

AND CLIMATE CHANGE.

IT IS RUN BY FORMER TOP

OBAMA ADVISORS.

EVEN THE GROUP'S WEBSITE

LOOKS AN AWFUL LOT LIKE THE

PRESIDENT'S CAMPAIGN.

RAISING QUESTIONS ABOUT

WHERE THE GOVERNMENT AND THE

WHITE HOUSE ENDS, AND THE

POLITICAL ACTIVITIES BEGAN.

MICHELLE OBAMA HELPED

LAUNCHED IT.

THIS IS YOUR MOVEMENT.

GOING FORWARD, IT COULD BE

WHATEVER YOU MAKE OF IT.

Reporter: TONIGHT

O.F.A., AS IT IS KNOWN, IS

HOLDING ITS FOUNDER SUMMIT.

DONORS HAVE ACCESS TO THE

COMMANDER IN CHIEF HIMSELF.

THE COST FOR A SEAT AT THE

TABLE, $50,000 PER PERSON.

I JUST THINK THAT IS

WRONG.

Reporter: BOB EDGAR IS

PRESIDENT OF "COMMON CAUSE,"

A GROUP DEDICATED TO OPEN

AND ACCOUNTABLE GOVERNMENT.

HE SAYS THE PRESIDENT IS

BLOWING HIS CHANCE TO PROVE

HE IS SERIOUS ABOUT CAMPAIGN

FINANCE REFORM AND

MINIMIZING THE MONEY THAT

MONEY PLAYS IN POLITICS.

ONCE THE PRESIDENT WON

RE-ELECTION, HE SHOULD HAVE

STOPPED, THOUGHT ABOUT THIS

ORGANIZATION, AND ORGANIZED

FROM THE BOTTOM UP, AND NOT

FROM THE TOP DOWN.

Reporter: THE WHITE

HOUSE SAYS O.F.A. IS FOR

AVERAGE AMERICANS, AND IT

DENIES REPORTS THAT MEGA

DONORS WHO BUNDLE $5,000 FOR

MORE FOR O.F.A. WILL GET

THEIR OWN QUARTERLY MEETINGS

WITH THE PRESIDENT.

O.F.A. WAS SET UP TO

PROMOTE THE PRESIDENT'S

PUBLIC POLICY AGENDA.

AND AS ANYONE WOULD EXPECT,

HE WOULD MEET WITH THEM TO

DISCUSS HIS AGENDA.

THERE IS A PRICE SET FOR THE

MEETING FOR THE PRESIDENT IS

ABSURD.

Reporter: THE GROUP

PROMISES TO HELP RAISE

MILLIONS OF DOLLARS TO

EMPLOY AN ARMY OF POLITICAL

ACTIVISTS TO ADVANCE THE

PRESIDENT'S AGENDA.

JENNIFER WISHON, CBN NEWS,

WASHINGTON.

Lee: IT IS OBVIOUS THAT

CARNEY HAD A PREPARED

STATEMENT TO GO FOR THE

PRESS.

Pat: YOU KNOW HE DID.

$50,000 FOR DINNER.

THAT'S A RIGHT EXPENSIVE

DINNER, EVEN IF THE CHEF AND

THE WHITE HOUSE IS UP TO THE

TOP FORM.

$50,000 IS A LOT OF MONEY

FOR FORS FILET MIGNON.

Lee: THE ASSOCIATED

PRESS REPORTS THAT A DRAFT

OF AN APPLICATION FOR A

THREE-PERSON FAMILY RUNS 15

PAGES.

THE ONLINE VERSION HAS 21

STEPS, SOME WITH ADDITIONAL

QUESTIONS.

APPLICATION WILL BE CHECKED

BY THREE FEDERAL AGENCIES,

INCLUDING -- YOU GUESSED

IT -- THE I.R.S.

MORE THAN FOUR MILLION

APPLICATIONS FOR FINANCIAL

ASSISTANCE ARE EXPECTED NEXT

YEAR.

THE NEW COVERAGE STARTS

JANUARY 1st, AND

ADMINISTRATION OFFICIALS SAY

IT IS BEE REFINED.

BUT THEY SAY PICKING A

HEALTH PROGRAM WILL BE AS

EASY AS SHOPPING ON THE

INTERNET IS NOT TRUE.

REPUBLICAN SENATOR MITCH

McCONNELL SENT OUT THIS

PROPOSAL OF THE 20,000 PAGES

OF THE OBAMACARE

REGULATIONS.

IT IS MORE THAN SEVEN FEET

HIGH.

AND AS YOU CAN SEE, ALL OF

THAT PAPER IS WRAPPED UP IN

RED TAPE.

Kristi: WOW!

Pat: THAT'S WHAT

HAPPENS WHEN YOU HAVE A

WHOLE LOT OF PAID POLITICAL

APPOINTEES MAKING

DECISIONS.

THEY HAVE LOST TOUCH WITH

REALITY.

SEVEN FEET OF REGULATIONS

WRAPPED IN RED TAPE.

Kristi: WOW!

Pat: THAT'S WHAT THEY

HAVE GOT.

AND, YOU KNOW, I'M GLAD TO

SEE THAT THE A.P. IS

STARTING TO TURN RIGHTEOUS.

NOT FULLY RIGHTEOUS, BUT

PARTIALLY RIGHTEOUS.

THEY ARE STARTING TO REPORT

THINGS AS THEY ARE, AND GOOD

FOR THEM.

LET'S HOPE THEY DO MORE OF

THAT.

THIS IS A SWITCH.

BUT, HEY, WE'LL TAKE

EVERYTHING THAT COMES.

KRISTI?

Kristi: ALL I CAN SAY

IS THAT OLD SAYING, A

PICTURE IS WORTH A THOUSAND

WORDS.

Pat: IF YOU WERE

STANDING BESIDE IT, IT WOULD

TOWER OVER YOUR HEAD.

Kristi: RIDICULOUS.

UP NEXT, THEY'RE BULLYING

THEIR OPPONENTS WHILE SAYING

THEY'RE THE VICTIMS.

WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT THE

SCHOOL YARDS HERE.

BEN SHAPIRO TELLS US HOW TO

BEAT THEM AT THEIR OWN GAME,

COMING UP ON "THE 700

CLUB."

*

Pat: HEY, I'VE GOT A

BOOK HERE BY A GUY NAMED BEN

SHAPIRO.

MAN, HE IS A WONDER KING.

HE IS AMAZING.

HE GRADUATED FROM LAW

SCHOOL, SUMA KUM LAUDI.

AND BEN SHAPIRO IS CARRYING

ON.

AND HE HAS WRITTEN A BOOK

CALLED "BULLYING."

AND BULLYING DOESN'T JUST

MEAN BIG KIDS PICKING ON

LITTLE KIDS.

YOU CAN ALSO FIND BULLYING

IN POLITICS.

YOU MIGHT BE SURPRISED TO

FIND OUT WHO SOME OF THOSE

BULLIES ARE.

TAKE A LOOK.

Reporter: BULLYING, IN

WASHINGTON, IT IS POLITICS

AS USUAL, WITH SOME OF THE

BIGGEST DEFENDERS BEING

THOSE WHO PROTEST AGAINST

THE PRACTICE THE MOST.

BULLYING HAS MORVE MORPHED

INTO WHAT SOME CALL THE

USUAL.

THAT'S HOW BRIGHT.COM'S

AUTHOR, BEN SHAPIRO SEES

IT.

HE EXPERIENCED FIRSTHAND

WHEN HE RECENTLY CAME OUT

AGAINST THE PRESIDENT'S GUN

BAN PROPOSALS ON THE PIERCE

MORGAN SHOW.

YOU'RE ABSURD, YOU'RE

STUPID.

Reporter: IN HIS NEWEST

BOOK, "BULLIES, HOW THE LEFT

CULTURE OF FEAR AND IN

INTIMIDATION SILENCES THE

MEDIA," HE SAYS BULLIES ARE

PLAYING THE SEX AND RACISM

CARD, ALL THE WHILE CLAIMING

TO BE VICTIMS.

Pat: BEN SHAPIRO IS

JOINING US NOW FROM

WASHINGTON.

GOOD TO SEE YOU.

THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME.

Pat: WHAT DO THESE GUYS

DO ON THE LEFT?

GIVE US A FEW HORROR

STORIES.

EVERY TIME THE LEFT HAS A

POLICY IT WANTS TO PUSH, THE

ONLY WAY IT CAN PUSH THE

POLICY IS BY SUGGESTING THAT

WE ON THE OTHER SIDE ARE

MORALLY DEFICIENT.

THE LATEST EXAMPLES ARE ON

THE SEQUESTRATION, AND

PRESIDENT OBAMA IMPLYING THE

OM REASOONLY REASON WE

WON'T BUY INTO THIS PLAN IS

BECAUSE WE DON'T LIKE POOR

PEOPLE OR TEACHERS.

AND ON GUN CONTROL, STACKING

A BUNCH OF 7-YEAR-OLDS

BEHIND HIM TO MAKE THEPOINT

IF WE JUST LOVED KIDS A

LITTLE MORE, WE WOULD AGREE

WITH HIM ON GUN CONTROL.

IT ALWAYS COMES DOWN TO THE

SAME ARGUMENT.

IF WE DON'T AGREE WITH THE

LIBERAL POINT OF VIEW, IT

COMES DOWN TO THE PROBLEM

THAT WE ARE HORRIBLE

PEOPLE.

Pat: RACISTS,

SEXISTS -- THE THING IS,

THAT RHETORIC HAS WORKED,

HASN'T IT?

YEAH.

Pat: THE AMERICAN

PEOPLE SAY OBAMA CARES ABOUT

ME AND MITT ROMNEY DIDN'T

CARE ABOUT ME.

HE SOLD IT.

AND WHY?

IF YOU LOOK AT THE 2012

ELECTION, THIS IS WHY THEY

LOST.

MITT ROMNEY DEFINED BARACK

OBAMA AS A NICE GUY, A GOOD

FATHER AND FAMILY MAN,

BELIEVED IN THE

CONSTITUTION, JUST NOT VERY

GOOD AT BEING PRESIDENT.

AND THE POLLS REFLECTED

THAT.

BARACK OBAMA PAINTED MITT

ROMNEY AS THE WORST GUY

SINCE STALLIN, HE HAD

BINDERS FULL OF WOMEN

BECAUSE HE DIDN'T LIKE

THEM.

AND MOST AMERICANS GIVEN A

CHOICE BETWEEN A GOOD

GUY/BAD PRESIDENT OR A

HORRIBLE HUMAN BEING WILL

CHOOSE GOOD GUY/BAD

PRESIDENT.

Pat: WHAT ARE THE

REPUBLICANS GOING TO DO TO

FILL THAT GAP.

I THINK THEY HAVE TO STOP

ARGUING POLICY.

CIVILITY IS LIKE THE GENEVA

CONVENTION.

ONCE YOU STEP OUT OF

CIVILITY, YOU HAVE TO

REPLY.

THE PROPER RESPONSE, WHEN

CALLED A RACIST, OH, NO, I

HAVE BLACK FRIENDS.

THE PROPER RESPONSE IS NO,

RACISM IS SOMETHING TO WHICH

YOU DON'T AGREE.

THAT'S SOMETHING THAT

REPUBLICANS NEED TO DO ON A

MORE REGULAR BASIS.

Pat: THAT'S WHAT LITTLE

KIDS ON THE PLAYGROUNDS DO,

YOU'RE A LIAR, NO, YOU'RE A

LIAR.

YOU HAVE TO EXPOSE THEIR

TACTICS.

ALL LIBERALISM IS BADE ON

FLIGHT OF HAND.

THEY DON'T HAVE FACTS OR

EVIDENCE.

THEY ARE ARGUING CHARACTER,

AND WE'RE ARGUING POLICY.

ARGUMENTS ABOUT CHARACTER

WILL ALSO DEFEAT ARGUMENTS

ABOUT POLICY.

WE HAVE TO TAKE IT OFF THE

TABLE.

AND WE HAVE TO MAKE IT CLEAR

TO THE LEFT, IF THEY ARGUE

CHARACTER, WE'LL ARGUE

CHARACTER, AND THEN WE CAN

ACTUALLY GET DOWN TO WHAT IS

BEST FOR THE AMERICAN

PEOPLE, AS OPPOSED TO

"YOU'RE A BAD PERSON."

Pat: KIND OF LIKE WHAT

THEY USED TO SAY IN

MASSACHUSETTS, IF YOU WON'T

LIE ABOUT US, WE WON'T TELL

THE TRUTH ABOUT YOU.

DO YOU THINK THE MEDIA IS

GOING TO PLAY THAT?

THEY SEEM COMPLICIT IN THIS

OBAMA THING.

ALTHOUGH NOW THEY'RE

BEGINNING TO QUESTION HIM.

ONCE THEY SHUT THE WHITE

HOUSE TOURS DOWN, HE BROUGHT

CRITICISM ON THEM.

THE MEDIA ARE THE BIGGEST

BULLIES BECAUSE THEY HIDE

BEHIND OBJECTIVITY TO

PRETEND THEY'RE TELLING THE

TRUTH.

THE FACT THAT GEORGE

STEPANOPOULOS IS CONSIDERED

AN OBJECTIVE REPORTER AFTER

BEING IN THE CLINTON

ADMINISTRATION -- THAT'S

ABSURD.

THAT'S WHY HE WAS ASKING

MITT ROMNEY, FOR EXAMPLE,

ABOUT CONTRACEPTIVE LAWS IN

THE STATE.

IT HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH

ANYTHING, BUT HE WAS

ATTEMPTING TO PUSH OUT THIS

OBAMA TALKING POINT.

THE MEDIA MUST BE DESTROYED

AS IT CURRENTLY STANDS.

NOW THEY'RE SHOWING A LITTLE

SKEPTICISM BECAUSE IT IS

SAFE TO COME OUT.

NOW THAT OBAMA HAS BEEN

RE-ELECTED.

BUT DON'T BE FOOLED, THIS IS

A MEDIA VERY MUCH IN THE

POCKET OF THE DEMOCRATIC

NATIONAL COMMITTEE, AND IT

IS A DEMOCRATIC PARTY THAT

CONTROLS THE MEDIA.

Pat: BEN, THANK YOU FOR

YOUR BOOK, "BULLIES."

AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR

INSIGHTS.

I HOPE YOU'RE SUCCESSFUL.

THANKS SO MUCH.

Pat: BEN SHAPIRO,

AMAZING.

AMAZING.

Kristi: I'LL SAY THIS,

PAT, WE DEFINITELY DON'T

KNOW WHERE HE STANDS --

THAT'S SARCASM.

Pat: WERE YOU

BULLIED -- YOU HAD ALL KINDS

OF BAD THINGS HAPPEN?

Kristi: I WAS NEVER

BULLIED, BUT I DID HAVE

EXPERIENCES OF GENUINE

RACISM.

I GOT SPIT ON THE FACE AND

CALLED A NAME.

Pat: SPIT IN THE FACE

IN LIBERAL MASSACHUSETTS?

Kristi: WHEN I WAS

GROWING UP, WE MOVED EVERY

THREE YEARS OF MY LIFE.

MASSACHUSETTS FOR ME WAS THE

PLACE I EXPERIENCED THE

GREATEST BLATENT FORM OF

RACISM.

WHERE IT WASN'T JUST

SH-SH-SH.

IT WAS LET ME TELL YOU WHO

YOU ARE, AND SPAT, IN MY

FACE.

Pat: THEY DID THAT?

YES.

WALKING TO SCHOOL, AND ON

THE SCHOOL BUS, THIS LITTLE

BOY SPIT IN MY FACE AND SAID

WHAT ARE YOU DOING HERE?

Pat: IN MASSACHUSETTS?

SHI MASSACHUSETTS.

Pat: AND YOU STAYED

SWEET?

BECAUSE OF JESUS.

Pat: OR YOU WOULD HAVE

HIT HIM IN THE FACE?

YES.

I CRIED.

AND MY MOTHER AND FATHER

TALKED TO ME ABOUT JESUS,

AND WHATEVER NAME SOMEBODY

SAID TO ME, I'M A CHILD OF

GOD.

YOYOU SHRUG IT OFF AND ASK

GOD TO BLESS HIM.

BUT DON'T GET CLOSE.

Pat: MY BOXING COACH

SAID YOU HIT ME IN ONE

CHEEK, YOU TURN THE OTHER

CHEEK.

KRISTI WHO SURVIVED

MASSACHUSETTS, AND THE

JUSTICE DEPARTMENT WANTS TO

BEAT UP ON ALABAMA AND

GEORGIA, AND LOUISIANA.

Kristi: THE BOTTOM LINE

IS IT HAPPENS EVERYWHERE.

EVERYBODY HAS ISSUES, AND

PRAISE JESUS FOR JESUS.

Pat: THAT WAS VERY

INSPIRING.

Kristi: ARE YOU

INSPIRED?

Pat: YOU'RE VERY

INSPIRING, KRISTI.

Kristi: I'M GLAD I

COULD HELP YOU IN SOME

WAYS.

UP NEXT, A SNOOPING WIFE

FOUND OUT MORE THAN SHE

EXPECTED.

THERE WERE PAGES OF

DIFFERENT PROSTITUTES, THEIR

NAMES, AND ALL OF THEIR

STATS.

AND SOME HE HAD

WRITTEN, LIKE, WHAT HE HAD

DONE WITH THEM.

Kristi: THE ADDICTION

THAT POISONED THIS MARRIAGE,

AND THE CURE, COMING UP ON

"THE 700 CLUB."

Pat: MARRIAGE, 50% OF

THE MARRIAGES END IN DIVORCE

IN AMERICA.

SHOCKING.

THE AMOUNT OF POVERTY AMONG

SINGLE WOMEN, VICTIMS OF

DIVORCE, APPALLING.

THE DAMAGE TO WOMEN,

APPALLING.

AND WE HAVE SO-CALLED

NO-FAULT DIVORCE LAWS, WHERE

IT IS SO EASY TO GET OUT OF

A MARRIAGE.

BUT INSIDE OF MARRIAGES,

WHAT IS HAPPENING IS THE

PORNOGRAPHY ON THE INTERNET,

THE PORNOGRAPHY THAT IS

AVAILABLE ON CABLE TV, AND

THE PORNOGRAPHY ON MAGAZINES

AND BILLBOARDS, AND THE SEX

INDUSTRY HAS BEEN

GLORIFIED.

THESE PEOPLE ARE HEROS.

YOU KNOW, HOW TO MAKE LOVE

LIKE A PORN STAR.

THIS BECOMES A BIG THING.

OKAY, WELL, IT ISN'T

SURPRISING THEN THAT MEN GET

ADDICTED TO INTERNET

PORNOGRAPHY.

AND TIM ALLEN WAS SUCH A

MAN.

HE ALSO WAS FREQUENTING

PROSTITUTES.

HE LEFT FILES OF HIS SEXUAL

ESCAPADES RIGHT IN HIS HOME

OFFICE UNTIL ONE DAY THE

WIFE BEGAN TO INQUIRE, AND

LOOK THROUGH THESE MATERIALS

AND WAS SHOCKED.

Reporter: WHEN AMY

ALLEN WENT SNOOPING THROUGH

HER HUSBAND, TIM'S OFFICE

FILES, WHAT SHE FOUND BROKE

HER HEART.

HE HAD PAGES OF DIFFERENT

PROSTITUTES, THEIR NAMES,

ALL OF THEIR STATS, AND HOW

TO GET AHOLD OF THEM. AND

SOME HE HAD WRITTEN, LIKE,

WHAT HE HAD DONE WITH SOME

OF THEM.

AND THAT WAS CRUSHING.

I SAID, I'M OUT OF HERE.

I CAN'T DEAL WITH THIS

ANYMORE.

WHAT I CAME BACK TO WAS

AN EMPTY HOUSE WITH HER

WEDDING RING SITTING ON THE

MANTEL OF THE HOUSE, AND I

REALIZED IT WAS OVER.

Reporter: TIM'S SECRET

SEX ADDICTION HAD FINALLY

COME TO LIGHT, AND HIS

MARRIAGE TO AMY WAS OVER.

IT ALL STARTED IN HIS

CHILDHOOD.

PORNOGRAPHY HAD BEEN IN

MY LIFE SINCE I WAS ABOUT

NINE, PROBABLY EVEN BEFORE

THAT.

PLAYBOY, MY GRANDPARENTS --

MY GRANDFATHER HAD IT.

I LOOKED FOR IT ALL OF THE

TIME WHEN I WAS DOWN THERE.

Reporter: TIM'S

ADDICTION TO PORN ONLY

INCREASED AS HE GOT OLDER.

UNFORTUNATELY, AFTER HE

MARRIED AMY, HE BEGAN

PLAYING OUT HIS FANTASIES

WITH OTHER WOMEN.

THE PORNOGRAPHY STUFF IN

MAGAZINES WAS NOT ENOUGH

ANYMORE.

THAT WAS ACTUALLY SOMETHING

DIFFERENT AND INTERESTING.

I WANT MORE OF THAT.

Reporter: AT HOME, AMY

KNEW SOMETHING WAS WRONG IN

THEIR RELATIONSHIP, BUT

COULDN'T QUITE FIGURE IT

OUT.

I FELT LIKE HE DIDN'T

EVEN WANT TO BE WITH ME.

I FELT LIKE HIS BALL AND

CHAIN AT TIMES.

Reporter: AS THE

INTERNET GREW IN POPULARITY,

TIM'S LUST FOR OUTSIDE SEX

GREW OUT OF CONTROL.

TIM DEVELOPED AN ON-GOING

RELATIONSHIP WITH A WOMAN

SHE MET ON THE WEB.

AMY FOUND OUT WHEN SHE FOUND

CONDOS IN A BAG THEY BOTH

SHARED.

I WAS YELLING AT HIM, AND

SCREAMING OBSCENITIES,

SAYING WHAT IS WRONG WITH

YOU?

I PACKED SOME BAGS AND TOOK

THEM DOWN TO HIS OFFICE THAT

DAY AND PUT THEM IN HIS

TRUCK.

I'M ABOUT READY TO THROW

AWAY EVERYTHING SINCE WE'VE

MET, EVERYTHING I'VE WORKED

FOR, FOR AN AFFAIR I HAVE

WITH THIS YOUNG WOMAN THAT I

DON'T EVEN REALLY LIKE, BUT

IT WAS SEX.

AND THAT STILL HAD ITS

TENTACLES ON ME.

Reporter: EVENTUALLY

AMY AND TIM TRIED TO SALVAGE

THEIR MARRIAGE.

AND TIM MOVED BACK HOME.

THEY STARTED GOING TO

CHURCH, BUT TIM'S MIND WAS

ELSEWHERE.

HE STILL CRAZED SEX.

YOU GET ON THE INTERNET

AND YOU SEE ESCORTS AND

PROSTITUTES, AND WHATEVER

YOU WANT TO CALL THEM,

OFFERING WHAT I WANTED FOR

MONEY.

NO STRINGS ATTACHED.

Reporter: TIM CRUISED

THE CITY STREETS AND THE

INTERNET TO SET UP

RENDEZVOUSES WITH

PROSTITUTES.

THAT'S WHEN AMY FOUND HIS

FILES IN HIS HOME OFFICE.

SOME OF THE STUFF SHE WAS

READING WAS HORRIBLE.

BUT I HAD PUT IT DOWN, AND

SHE FOUND IT AND PACKED

EVERYTHING UP AND LEFT.

Reporter: AMY MOVED

BACK HOME WITH HER MOM.

SHE STARTED ATTENDING CHURCH

AND ACCEPTED CHRIST AS HER

SAVIOR.

GOD WAS HELPING ME TO SEE

IT THROUGH HIS EYES, AND

THAT WE'RE ALL SINNERS.

Reporter: TIM WAS AT

HIS LOWEST POINT: HIS

MARRIAGE WAS OVER AND HIS

LIFE WAS AS A CROSS-ROADS.

HE STARTED READING CHRISTIAN

BOOKS ON SEXUAL ADDICTION.

I WAS READING ABOUT THE

CHURCH, AND WHAT DOES THIS

HAVE TO TELL ME ABOUT

MYSELF.

I KNEW THERE WAS SOMETHING

WRONG BECAUSE ONE HALF OF MY

LIFE JUST CAME CRASHING

DOWN.

Reporter: THEN ON THEIR

EIGHTH WEDDING ANNIVERSARY,

AMY GAVE TIM A CALL.

WE BOTH FILED FOR

DIVORCE.

HE FILED IN MARYLAND AND I

FILED IN SAN DIEGO.

SO THERE WAS NOTHING TO

LOSE.

WE WERE VERY, VERY HONEST IN

OUR FEELINGS.

SHE STARTED TALKING ABOUT

STILL LOVING ME, WHICH

HURT.

I DIDN'T WANT TO HEAR THAT.

BUT AT THE SAME TIME, IT WAS

IMPACTING ME.

HOW CAN SHE STILL LOVE ME?

THAT'S PART OF WHAT I WAS

ASKING MYSELF AT THE TIME.

SHE ALSO READ SOME SCRIPTURE

TO ME ABOUT SIN IS SIN.

Reporter: TIM COULDN'T

GET AMY'S WORDS OUT OF HIS

MIND.

HE FINALLY CRIED OUT TO GOD

FOR HELP.

I JUST KEPT READING ALL

THIS STUFF, WHO HE WAS AND

WHAT HE DID.

AND JESUS IS WHO HE SAID HE

IS.

I BROKE DOWN, IN THE

BASEMENT OF THE HOUSE IN

MARYLAND.

AND IF YOU ARE WHO YOU

ARE...YOU HAVE TO HELP ME.

IF YOU'RE GOD, IF YOU ARE

WHO YOU SAY YOU ARE, HELP

ME.

Reporter: TIM FOUND A

CHURCH AND MET WITH THE

PASTOR.

AND I OPENED UP TO HIM

ABOUT IT, AND JUST FELT AND

KNEW I COULD TRUST HIM AND

HE WOULD BE OPEN AND WOULD

PRAY AND WOULD SUPPORT ME IN

ANY WAY HE POSSIBLY COULD.

Reporter: AMY AND TIM

BEGAN TO TALK.

AS THEY GREW IN THEIR FAITH,

THEY DECIDED TO MEET.

I GAVE HER HER RING BACK,

AND TOLD HER THAT I WAS

SORRY.

AND TOLD HER THE THINGS I'D

DONE ARE UNFORGIVE BELIEVE,

FORGIVABLE, BUT I'M

FOLLOWING JESUS.

I WAS AFRAID BECAUSE I

DIDN'T WANT IT TO HAPPEN

AGAIN.

GOD'S VOICE WAS STRONGER TO

ME THAN ANYONE ELSE'S.

MY PARENTS SAID, DON'T GO

BACK WITH HIM.

HIS PARENTS SAID, DON'T GO

BACK WITH HIM.

BUT I LISTENED TO GOD'S

VOICE, AND I'M GLAD I DID.

Reporter: THEIR LOVE

FOR EACH OTHER HAS GROWN,

AND TIM AND AMY NOW HAVE TWO

DAUGHTERS.

THE GROWING THAT WE WERE

DOING, AND THE INTIMACY THAT

WE ARE NOW SHARING, AND

WHERE THE LORD IS CONTINUING

TO BRING US BACK IS

SOMETHING I NEVER

UNDERSTOOD.

AND IT IS A WONDERFUL

THING.

IT TAKES TIME.

AND IT TAKES FORGIVENESS

OVER AND OVER, AND IT TAKES

AGAPE LOVE, THIS KIND OF

LOVE FOR US.

WE ARE TOGETHER BECAUSE

OF JESUS.

IT IS SOMETHING ONLY HE CAN

DO.

Pat: WHAT A STORY.

LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, I

CAN'T EMPHASIZE STRONGLY

ENOUGH THE TREMENDOUS IMPACT

THAT PORNOGRAPHY OR EVEN THE

PLAYBOY IMAGE, THE PICTURES

OF NAKED WOMEN, OR WHATEVER,

WHAT IT DOES TO A LITTLE

BOY, EIGHT, NINE, 10, 11

YEARS OLD.

TIM RAN INTO PLAYBOY AT HIS

GRANDFATHER'S, AND ALTHOUGH

PLAYBOY WAS THE CUTTING-EDGE

OF ITS DAY, IT IS PRETTY

TAME COMPARED TO WHAT IS

BEING DONE NOW.

BUT I IT WAS ENOUGH TO

ENTICE AND SEDUCE A LITTLE

BOY.

AND I WANT YOU TO UNDERSTAND

THAT PORNOGRAPHY IS AS

DEVASTATING AND COMPELLING

AS HEROIN OR COCAINE OR ANY

OTHER MIND-ALTERING DRUG.

YOU NAME IT, CRACK OR

WHATEVER.

IT IS VERY HARD TO GET -- TO

OVERCOME.

AND IN TIM'S CASE, HE LET IT

GROW BECAUSE IT FEEDS ON

ITSELF.

AND YOU WANT A LITTLE MORE

AND A LITTLE MORE AND A

LITTLE MORE.

NOW, THIS IS A BUSINESS.

IT IS A HUGE BUSINESS.

IT IS A MULTI-MULTI-

MULTI-MULTI-BILLION DOLLAR

BUSINESS.

ENGAGED IN BY SOME LARGER

CORPORATIONS.

IT'S NOT JUST A FEW GUYS IN

A GARAGE MAKING OUT SOME

DIRTY PICTURES.

IT IS A MASSIVE CAMPAIGN.

AND THE DEVIL IS USING THAT

TO DESTROY THE LIVES OF

PEOPLE.

AND MEN KNOW THAT YOUR

CAREER IS AT STAKE, YOU'RE

MARRIAGE IS AT STAKE, YOUR

LIFE IS AT STAKE.

AND YOU NEED TO GET FREE

FROM THIS STUFF.

AND WIVES, YOU NEED TO

UNDERSTAND, TO KNOW WHAT

YOU'RE UP AGAINST, WHAT

YOU'RE COMPETING AGAINST.

AND YOU NEED TO BRING ALL

KINDS OF LOVE AND AFFECTION

INTO YOUR MARRIAGE.

AND SO THE TWO OF YOU NEED

TO KNOW YOU'VE GOT A

PROBLEM, AND YOU NEED TO

KNOW HOW TO DEAL WITH IT.

NOW, JESUS CHRIST IS THE

ANSWER.

HE CAN SET YOU FREE FROM

THIS PERVASIVE ADDICTION.

HE CAN CAN SET YOU FREE.

AND HE CAN GIVE YOU A WHOLES

SU WHOLESOME RELATIONSHIP,

WHERE YOU'RE A WONDERFUL

FATHER, WHERE YOU'RE A

WONDERFUL HUSBAND, WHERE

YOU'RE A SUCCESSFUL

BUSINESSMAN, WHERE YOUR ROLE

IN SOCIETY IS ASSURED AND

YOU'RE NOT ASHAMED OF THE

STUFF YOUR SLIPPING AROUND

DOING WHEN NOBODY IS

LOOKING.

BUT RIGHT NOW, IF THE LORD

IS SPEAKING TO YOU, I WANT

YOU TO DO SOMETHING.

I WANT YOU TO RENOUNCE THIS

ADDICTION.

AND ASK GOD FOR HELP.

I WANT YOU TO DO IT RIGHT

NOW.

DON'T SAY, WELL, I'LL DO IT

TOMORROW.

I'VE GOT ONE MORE HOOKUP

COMING.

NO, NO.

NOW.

NOW!

AND I WANT YOU TO PRAY WITH

ME RIGHT NOW.

AND I WANT YOU TO SAY THESE

WORDS, BUT MEAN THEM IN YOUR

HEART.

SO PRAY WITH ME.

LORD JESUS CHRIST -- THAT'S

RIGHT, PRAY NOW.

LORD JESUS CHRIST, YOU KNOW

WHAT HAS GAINED CONTROL OF

MY MIND AND OF MY THOUGHTS

AND OF MY HEART.

BUT I DON'T WANT TO BE A

SLAVE.

I BELONG TO YOU, JESUS.

AND I COME TO YOU, AND I SAY

PLEASE SET ME FREE.

AND FROM THIS MOMENT ON I

CONSCIOUSLY RENOUNCE THE

HOLD OF SEDUCTION AND

PORNOGRAPHY ON MY LIFE.

I RENOUNCE IT, AND, SATAN, I

COMMAND YOU IN JESUS' NAME

LOOSEN ME.

AND FROM THIS MOMENT ON I AM

FREE.

FOR THOSE WHO PRAYED THAT

PRAYER WITH ME, I WANT TO

PRAY FOR YOU.

FATHER, IN JESUS' NAME, LET

YOUR POWER AND ANOINTING

FLOOD THESE PEOPLE IN THE

AUDIENCE WHO PRAYED WITH ME

IN JESUS' NAME.

AMEN.

AND AMEN.

LISTEN, I'VE GOT SOME THINGS

I WANT TO SEND YOU.

IF YOU PRAYED WITH ME JUST

THEN.

I'VE GOT A LITTLE BOOKLET

CALLED "LOVE AND MARRIAGE."

WHAT DO YOU DO?

HOW DO YOU GET THINGS

STRAIGHTENED OUT?

LOVE AND MARRIAGE.

AND I'VE GOT SOMETHING ELSE

CALLED A NEW DAY.

IF YOU'VE JUST PRAYED AND

GIVEN YOUR HEART TO THE

LORD, WHAT DO YOU DO NEXT?

WHAT DOES GOD HAVE IN STORE

FOR YOU?

THIS IS A C.D., COMPACT

DISC, AND A BOOKLET, AND

THIS IS ALL FREE.

NO CHARGE.

YOU CAN CALL IN NOW.

WE HAVE PEOPLE ON THE PHONES

WHO ARE SYMPATHETIC, WHO

LOVE YOU, AND THEY SAY CALL

NOW.

WE'RE HERE TO HELP YOU.

THIS IS A WEEK OF

RESTORATION OF MARRIAGES.

THIS IS A WEEK TO SET YOU

FREE.

1-800-759-0700.

CALL RIGHT NOW.

SAY I PRAYED WITH PAT.

I GAVE MY HEART TO THE LORD,

AND I AM FREE.

IF YOU WANT FURTHER PRAYER,

CALL IN MANY WE'RE HERE FOR

YOU.

KRISTI?

Kristi: THANK YOU,

PAT.

THE STORY YOU JUST WATCHED

FEATURED A COUPLE ON THE

EDGE OF DIVORCE.

COMING UP LATER, WE'LL MEET

A PAIR WHO CROSSED THAT

LINE, SO FIND OUT WHY

THEY'RE BACK TOGETHER AND

HOW IT HAPPENED.

THEY'RE HERE LIVE ON THE

SHOW, SO WHATEVER YOU DO,

DON'T GO AWAY.

FIRST, A MARRIAGE ON THE

ROCKS, AN EDITION OF "BRING

IT ON."

ERICA SAYS, "MY HUSBAND HAS

ALWAYS SAID HE IS THE HEAD

OF THE HOUSEHOLD BECAUSE HE

IS MAKING MORE MONEY.

NOW I'M MAKING MORE MONEY,

SO DOES IT MEAN I'M IN

CHARGE?"

PAT IS GOING TO ANSWER THAT

QUESTION, SO WHATEVER YOU

DO, DON'T GO AWAY.

Lee: WELCOME BACK TO

"THE 700 CLUB."

THE COLORADO STATE

LEGISLATURE HAS APPROVED A

MEASURE ALLOWING CIVIL

UNIONS FOR GAY COUPLES IN

THAT STATE.

TWO REPUBLICANS BROKE FROM

PARTY LINES TO PASS THE

BILL.

THE GOVERNOR IS EXPECTED TO

SIGN IT INTO LAW.

THE MOVE MARKS A POLITICAL

SHIFT IN COLORADO.

SEVEN YEARS AGO VOTERS THERE

APPROVED A MEASURE BANNING

GAY MARRIAGE.

WESTMINISTER THEOLOGICAL

SEMINARY IN PENNSYLVANIA HAS

FILED A LAWSUIT AGAINST THE

CONTRACEPTION MANDATE IN

OBAMACARE.

THE SUIT CHALLENGES THE

REQUIREMENT THAT EMPLOYEES

HAVE HEALTH INSURANCE THAT

PROVIDES ABORTION INDUCING

DRUGS.

TWO OTHER INSTITUTIONS HAVE

ALREADY GONE TO COURT

AGAINST THE MANDATE.

YOU CAN ALWAYS GET THE

LATEST FROM CBN NEWS BY

GOING TO OUR WEBSITE AT

CBNNEWS.COM.

PAT AND KRISTI WILL BE BACK

WITH MORE OF "THE 700 CLUB"

AFTER THIS.

Kristi: TIME IS

TICKING, SO WE'RE GOING TO

JUMP IN WITH YOUR E-MAIL

QUESTIONS.

ERICA SAYS, "MY HUSBAND HAS

ALWAYS SAID HE IS THE HEAD

OF THE HOUSEHOLD BECAUSE HE

BRINGS IN A LARGER

PAYCHECK.

RECENTLY I GOT A RAISE, AND

NOW I MAKE MORE MONEY.

SO DOES THIS MEAN I NEED TO

TAKE ON THE LEAD ROLE IN THE

HOME?

WHAT DOES GOD SAY ABOUT

THIS, PAT?"

Pat: THE BIBLE SAYS THE

HUSBAND IS THE HEAD OF THE

HOUSEHOLD.

IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH

WHO MAKES THE MOST MONEY.

INTERESTINGLY ENOUGH, SO

MANY OF THESE WOMEN ARE

OUTCLASSING THE MEN, BY FAR,

IN TERMS OF THEIR EARNING

CAPACITY.

I THINK MANY OF THEM HAVE

ADVISED FOLKS ALONG THE WAY

TO HAVE SEPARATE BANK

ACCOUNTS SO THEY HAVE SOME

CONTROL OVER THEIR OWN

MONEY.

BUT IN TERMS OF SPIRITUAL

DEVELOPMENT OF THE CHILDREN,

IN TERMS OF THE LONG-RANGE

PLANS OF THE FAMILY, THE

HUSBAND IS SUPPOSED TO BE

THE HIGH PRIEST.

HE IS SUPPOSED TO GO BEFORE

THE LORD AND SAY, LORD, GIVE

ME DIRECTION.

AND TOGETHER HE AND THE WIFE

WILL PRAY.

AND THEY ARE TO BE IN

UNITY.

AND THE BIBLE SAYS TO MAN

MAKE PEACE WITH YOUR WIFE SO

THAT YOUR PRAYERS WOULD NOT

BE HINDERED.

SO THERE NEEDS TO BE HARMONY

BETWEEN THE HUSBAND AND WIFE

SO THEIR PRAYERS WILL NOT BE

HINDERED.

ALLEN SAYS "IN 1

CORINTHIANS SAYS THAT THE --

MY WIFE WAS A CHRISTIAN WHEN

WE MARRIED, AND HAS SINCE

WALKED AWAY FROM GOD.

DOES THIS MEAN SHE'LL GO TO

HEAVEN BECAUSE SHE MARRIED

ME, A CHRISTIAN?"

Pat: THAT DOESN'T HAVE

ANYTHING TO DO WITH GOING TO

HEAVEN.

IT HAS TO DO WITH YOUR

CHILDREN.

YOU SEE, IN THE JEWISH

TRADITION, THROUGH THE

WOMAN, FEMALE LINE, THEIR

OFF SPRING BECAME PART OF

THE COVENANT OF ISRAEL.

THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TALKING

ABOUT.

HE SAID LEST YOUR

CHILDREN -- IF YOU READ

FURTHER ON, LEST YOUR

CHILDREN.

SO HE IS TALKING ABOUT THE

CHILDREN.

AND THE CHILDREN COME INTO

THE COVENANT RELATIONSHIP

WITH GOD IF ONE OF THE

MEMBERS IS A BELIEVER.

THAT'S WHAT PAUL WAS

SAYING.

DOES THAT MEAN YOUR WIFE IS

GOING TO HEAVEN OR NOT GOING

TO HEAVEN, I MEAN, IT

DOESN'T APPLY TO THAT AT

ALL.

Kristi: CECILIA

SAYS, "I JUST WANT TO ASK,

SHOULD WE PRAY FOR OUR LOVED

ONES WHO HAVE PASSED AWAY,

AND WHAT DOES THE BIBLE SAY

ABOUT THIS?"

Pat: PAUL WAS WRITING

TO ONE CHURCH WHO DIDN'T

BELIEVE IN THE SECOND COMING

AND DIDN'T BELIEVE IN THE

RESURRECTION, ACTUALLY.

AND HE SAID, IF YOU DON'T

BELIEVE IN THE RESURRECTION,

HOW COME YOU'RE PRAYING FOR

THE DEAD.

THAT DOESN'T MEAN HE

APPROVED OF IT.

ONCE SOMEBODY DIES, THAT

DECISION IS FINAL.

YOU'RE NOT GOING TO PRAY TO

CHANGE IT.

SO

WHY BOTHER?

PRAY FOR THE SURVIVORS.

PRAY FOR THE CHILDREN.

PRAY FOR THE SURVIVING

SPOUSE, ETC.

BUT THE PERSON IS DEAD IS

DEAD, GONE.

YOUR PRAYERS ARE NOT GOING

TO HAVE IMPACT WITH THEIR

ULTIMATE DESTINY.

Kristi: SHERRY

SAYS, "I'M HAVING A HARD

TIME UNDERSTANDING

SCRIPTURE.

THE BIBLE STATES IN THE

BEGINNING WAS THE WORD, AND

THE WORD WAS GOD AND THE

WORD IS GOD.

AND JESUS SAID, WHEN YOU SEE

ME, YOU HAVE ALSO SEEN THE

FATHER.

AND SO WHY DOES JESUS SAID

NO ONE KNOWS THE TIME BUT

THE FATHER.

HELP ME UNDERSTAND."

Pat: THE TRINITY IS A

MYSTERY, BUT THIS IS THE WAY

IT IS.

WE BELIEVE IN ONE GOD,

ETERNALLY EXISTENT IN THREE

PERSONS.

THERE IS THE FATHER, WHO IS

THE CREATIVE MIND.

THERE IS THE SON, WHO IS THE

AGENT OF CREATION, AND THERE

IS THE SPIRIT THAT FLOWS

FROM THE RELATIONSHIP OF THE

FATHER AND SON, THAT IS THE

ACTIVE FORCE THROUGHOUT THE

UNIVERSE.

BUT THEY ARE SEPARATE

PEOPLE.

NOW, JESUS WAS TALKING,

ACTUALLY, WHEN HE WAS HERE

ON EARTH.

WHAT HE SAID IS RIGHT NOW

THE ANGELS DON'T KNOW WHEN

I'M COMING, AND I DON'T

KNOW.

BUT HE SAID, YOU'VE SEEN ME,

YOU'VE SEEN THE FATHER.

BECAUSE HE WAS GOD.

JESUS WAS GOD.

BUT THIS PARTICULAR THING,

HE SAID THE FATHER HAS KEPT

UNTO HIMSELF.

SO, LISTEN, PEOPLE, FOR

HUNDREDS OF YEARS, HAVE

TRIED TO FIGURE HIS BABY

OUT.

SO DON'T THINK I'M GOING TO

WRITE A BOOK ABOUT IT.

BUT THAT'S THE WAY IT IS.

THAT'S WHAT THE -- THAT'S

CORRECT THEOLOGY, WHAT I

JUST TOLD YOU.

HOW IT ALL WORKS, WHEN WE

GET TO HEAVEN, WE'LL FIND

OUT.

Kristi: DANIELLE SAYS,

"HI, I'M 8 YEARS OLD, AND

WHY DID GOD LET SIN INTO

THE WORLD WHEN HE KNOWS WHAT

IS GOING TO HAPPEN IN OUR

LIVES?"

MY SON ASKS ME THE SAME

QUESTION.

Pat: GOD ALLOWED

FREEDOM IN ORDER TO HAVE A

PERFECT BEING.

YOU HAVE TO HAVE FREEDOM.

LIKE YOUR CHILDREN.

YOU DON'T WANT YOUR CHILDREN

TO COME AND HUG YOU BECAUSE

THEY KNOW YOU'RE GOING TO

BEAT THE DAY LIGHTS OUT OF

YOU IF THEY DON'T.

YOU WANT THEM TO HUG YOU

BECAUSE THEY LOVE YOU.

THAT'S A VOLITIONAL ACT, AND

GOD WANTS OUR LOVE FREELY.

THAT MEANS WE HAVE THE

DECISION TO SAY NO, AS WELL

AS YES.

OTHERWISE IT IS NOT A

LEGITIMATE DECISION.

SO HE GAVE US FREEDOM.

HE KNEW THAT MEN WOULD SIN.

HE KNEW THAT SATAN WOULD

FALL.

HE KNEW THESE THINGS, BUT HE

ALLOWED HIS CREATURES TO

HAVE FREE WILL.

BUT WHAT HAS HE DONE?

HE HAS SENT HIS SON TO

REDEEM THE UNIVERSE.

AND HE IS GOING TO PROVE TO

THE ANGELS, THE

PRINCIPALITIES IN POWERS,

THAT LOVE OVERCOMES

REBELLION AND HATRED.

AND ONE DAY HE IS GOING TO

SAY ENOUGH OF THIS.

YOU'VE HAD YOUR RUN, AND NOW

I'M GOING TO TAKE YOU AND

PUT A CHAIN ON YOU AND LOCK

YOU UP IN A BOTTOMLESS PIT

WHERE YOU'RE NOT GOING TO

GET OUT ANYMORE.

AND FROM THEN ON OUT IT WILL

BE SWEETNESS AND LIGHT FOR

THOSE OF US WHO LIVE IN THE

KINGDOM OF GOD.

AT THAT POINT, THERE WILL BE

NO MORE SIN, NO MORE

SUFFERING, NO MORE PAIN.

Kristi: GOOD JOB.

Pat: OH, I'M SO GLAD.

[LAUGHTER]

Kristi: WE'RE GOING TO

RETURN BACK TO MARRIAGE WEEK

BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT WE'VE

BEEN TALKING ABOUTMENT WHILE

SOME COUPLES MAY HAVE HIS OR

HER BATH TOWELS, OR HIS OR

HER COFFEE MUGS, THIS COUPLE

HAD HIS OR HER SIDES OF THE

HOUSE.

FIND OUT WHAT REPAIRED THIS

BROKEN HOME, UP NEXT.

Kristi: SO HOW MUCH BAD

BLOOD WAS THERE BETWEEN DALE

AND JANET FOREHAND?

THERE WAS A LOT OF FINGER

POINTING AND VERBAL ABUSE.

IN FACT, AT ONE POINT, BOTH

OF THEM HIRED PRIVATE

INVESTIGATORS TO SPY ON THE

OTHER PERSON.

BUT CHECK THIS OUT, IT

ACTUALLY GOT WORSE.

TAKE A LOOK.

Reporter: THE MINUTE

DALE SAW GINA AT CHURCH, HE

KNEW HE HAD TO MEET HER.

THEY FELL IN LOVE, DATED FOR

FOUR YEARS, AND MARRIED IN

1988.

WE WERE DOING A LOT OF

THE THINGS WE WERE TOLD DO

TO DO.

THE PROBLEM IS YOU CAN GET

SO BUSY CHASING THAT DREAM,

YOU CAN LOSE EACH OTHER IN

THE PROCESS.

DALE AND I WERE MARRIED

FOR SEVEN AND A HALF, ALMOST

EIGHT YEARS, WHEN THERE WAS

JUST KIND OF THIS SLOW

EROSION THAT BEGAN TO TAKE

PLACE.

Reporter: ARGUING

TURNED TO YELLING, AND THE

FIGHTING ESCALATED.

THEN ONE DAY DALE PACKED

GINA'S BAGS AND KICKED HER

OUT OF THE HOUSE.

Kristi: I WAS RIVETED

BY THE STORY.

WHAT HAPPENED NEXT?

YOU KNOW WHAT HAPPENED

NEXT?

DALE AND GINA FOREHAND BOTH

ARE HERE WITH US TO TELL US

WHAT HAPPENED NEXT.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

THANK YOU.

Kristi: NINE YEARS AGO,

AND YOU GUYS ARE BACK AND

STILL SMILING.

WE HAVE A LOT TO SMILE

ABOUT.

Kristi: THERE YOU GO.

WHEN I READ YOUR RESEARCH,

THE THING I THOUGHT WAS

FASCINATING, THAT SO MANY

CHRISTIAN COUPLES CAN RELATE

TO, BOTH OF YOU WERE VERY

ACTIVE IN YOUR CHURCH.

BOTH OF YOU HAD THE

CHRISTIAN HOME AND CHRISTIAN

FAMILY.

AND BY ALL ACCOUNTS, I'M

SURE EVERYBODY SAID, ISN'T

IT LOVELY.

THE TRUTH OF THE MATTER WAS,

YOU MIGHT HAVE BEEN PRAISING

AT CHURCH, BUT AT HOME, YOU

GUYS WERE THROWING BOOKS AT

EACH OTHER.

TELL US ABOUT THAT TIME.

WE GOT VERY GOOD AT

WEARING THE MASK.

BUT IN THE FOUR WALLS OF OUR

HOME, OUR MARRIAGE WAS DYING

A VERY UGLY DEATH.

IT WAS EXCRUCIATING.

WE WERE NOT THE HAPPY COUPLE

INSIDE OF OUR HOME.

WE HAD GOTTEN SO GOOD AT

PLAYING THE GAME AND

PRETENDING EVERYTHING IS

OKAY.

I THINK THAT IS WHAT WE LOVE

ABOUT OUR STORY IS WE'RE

TAKING OUR MASK OFF.

WE ARE TELLING OUR STORY,

AND SAYING WE'RE LIKE SO

MANY OTHER COUPLES WHO HAVE

WALKED THROUGH THE JOURNEY,

THE HARD THING CALLED

MARRIAGE.

BUT THERE IS IS GOD'S

REDEMPTION AND HOPE AND

HEALING.

IF YOU DO THE HARD WORK, YOU

CAN HAVE A GREAT MARRIAGE.

ABSOLUTELY.

Kristi: WHY DO SO MANY

CHRISTIANS WEAR MASKS?

DO WE FEEL LIKE IF IT IS NOT

PERFECT, WE'RE NOT TRUE

CHRISTIANS?

I THINK SO.

I THINK WE HAVE TAKEN THAT

ROLE.

AS BILL AN DALE AND I

ALWAYS SAY WE HAVE EXCHANGED

SPIRITUAL INTIMACY FOR THIS

ACTIVITY THAT MAKES US LOOK

LIKE WE'RE WALKING WITH GOD

WHEN WE'RE REALLY NOT.

WHEN WE WERE KIDS, OUR MASKS

WERE THE PLASTIC ONES, AND

YOU GOT YOUR HAIR ALL CAUGHT

IN IT, AND IT STUCK TO YOU

AND IT SUFFOCATED YOU, AND

YOU ENDED UP WANTING TO TAKE

IT OFF.

I THINK THAT IN THE

CHRISTIAN WORLD TODAY, IN

THE CHURCH, WE'VE GOTTEN SO

GOOD AT HIDING BEHIND

BECAUSE WE HAVE TO PUT ON

THIS PERSONA THAT WE'RE

FINE, AND WE'RE

SUFFOCATING.

BUT TODAY YOU CAN TAKE IT

OFF AND SAY, I'M

STRUGGLING.

CAN CAN YOU HELP ME.

Kristi: I WANT TO SPEND

THE REST OF THE INTERVIEW

TALKING ABOUT HOW BECAUSE SO

MANY COUPLES, CHRISTIAN

MARRIAGES, ARE FALLING BY

THE WAY SIDE.

SURE.

Kristi: SO WHAT DID GOD

DO THAT BROUGHT YOU.

GUYS BACK

TOGETHER.

TELL US ABOUT THE HIGH.

WHEN GINA ASKED ME TO

COME BACK HOME, WE HAD SO

MUCH FEAR.

WE STOPPED BLAMING EACH

OTHER, AND LOOKING AT

OURSELVES AND THE PART WE

PLAYED IN THE BREAKUP OF OUR

MARRIAGE.

Kristi: WHAT WAS THE

CATALYST?

THAT'S THE THING.

TO FILL EVERYBODY IN, YOU

GUYS WERE LIVING IN THE SAME

HOME FOR ABOUT 15 YEARS

HATING EACH OTHER BECAUSE

THE JUDGE SAID SO, BUT THEN

YOU GUYS HAD GOTTEN A

DIVORCE.

RIGHT.

Kristi: AND BY ALL

ACCOUNTS, YOU GUYS WERE

STILL JUST AS UNHAPPY AS YOU

WERE BEFORE.

WHAT WAS IT THAT TOOK THAT

PRIDE AWAY AND SAID, I'M

WRONG.

I'M SORRY.

I THINK FOR ME, THERE WAS

JUST THIS STRIPPING.

THERE WAS THIS MOMENT WHERE

IT WAS NO LONGER POINTING

THE FINGER AT DALE BECAUSE

DALE WAS NOW OUT OF THE

PICTURE.

NOW I WAS FORCED TO GO, OH,

MY GOODNESS, I HAD A PART TO

PLAY.

THERE IS THIS PART WHERE

YOU'RE GOING, HE DID THIS

AND HE DID THAT, AND YOU

NEVER TURN IT BACK IN.

IT IS LIKE THE SCRIPTURE

WHERE DAVID SAID, SEARCH ME,

OH, GOD, KNOW MY HEART AND

SEE WHAT IS GOING ON IN MY

LIFE.

THAT KIND OF GOT TURNED BACK

ON ME.

SUDDENLY IT WAS, LIKE, OOH,

I DID HAVE A PART TO PLAY IN

THIS.

I DID HAVE A PLACE WHERE I

CAUSED SOME BREAKDOWN IN

THIS RELATIONSHIP.

THEN IT WAS, LIKE, NOW WHAT

DO I DO WITH THIS.

BIBLICALLY, I REALLY NEED TO

GO TO HIM AND POP

APOLOGIZE.

WHILE ALL OF THIS STRIPPING

WAS GOING ON IN MY LIFE, THE

SAME THING WAS GOING ON IN

DALE'S.

BUT WE WERE APART, SO WE

DIDN'T KNOW IT.

A SITUATION BETWEEN OUR

CHILDREN CAUSED ME TO HAVE

TO COMMUNICATE WITH HIM.

IN THAT CONVERSATION, IT IS

LIKE THE HOLY SPIRIT SENT

THIS OUT THROUGH ME.

I JUST SAID, WHAT IN THE

WORLD HAVE WE DONE?

CAN WE JUST -- CAN YOU JUST

COME HOME AND LET'S TRY TOP

PUT IT BACK TOGETHER.

EVEN AFTER I SAID THAT, I

WAS, LIKE, I DON'T EVEN KNOW

IF I WANT TO DO THAT BECAUSE

IT IS SCARY AND IT IS HARD

AND RISKY.

BUT WHEN GOD IS IN THE

MIDDLE OF IT, GREAT THINGS

HAPPEN.

IT WAS HAPPENING TO DALE,

THE STRIPPING, AND IT WAS

LIKE GOD PREPARED US BOTH

FOR THAT PERFECT TIME.

Kristi: WHAT I HEAR IS

YOU BOTH HUMBLED YOURSELF.

ABSOLUTELY.

Kristi: I INTERVIEWED

SOMEBODY WHO SAID THE KEY TO

BROKEN MARRIAGES IS NOT

MONEY, LACK OF SEX -- IT IS

SELFISHNESS.

AND YOU SAY I'M SORRY, AND

YOUR FOCUS IS LONGER HER AND

HIM, AND IT'S YOU, LORD, AND

RESTORATION HAPPENS.

AND NOT ONLY DID GOD RESTORE

YOUR MARRIAGE, TELL US WHAT

HAPPENED WITH YOUR SON.

THE DAY WE GET REMARRIED,

OUR SON COMES INTO OUR

BEDROOM AND SAYS, HEY, MOM

AND DAD, SINCE GOD PUT MY

FAMILY BACK TOGETHER, TELL

ME HOW I CAN ACCEPT CHRIST

AS MY SAVIOR.

I ALWAYS SAY NEVER, EVER

UNDERESTIMATE YOUR SINGLE

ACT OF OBEDIENCE.

BECAUSE YOU NEVER KNOW WHAT

THAT ONE ACT OF OBEDIENCE

WILL DO.

BECAUSE NOW HERE WE ARE WITH

A MINISTRY.

IF YOU WILL TRUST GOD, AND

YOU HUMBLE YOURSELF, HIS WAY

AND HIS WORDS, THEY WORK.

Kristi: I'M JUST ABOUT

TO STAND UP AND SHOUT

HALLELUJAH, BECAUSE YOU GUYS

GAVE ME HOPE AND I'M NOT

EVEN MARRIED.

BLES MARRIED.

GOD BLESS YOU.

THANK YOU GUYS FOR YOUR

TESTIMONY AND YOUR HOPE.

PRAISE GOD.

FOR MORE ADVICE, CHECK OUT

THEIR BOOK.

IT'S CALLED "LET'S GET

REAL."

THAT'S WHAT WE NEED TO DO.

DON'T GET ME STARTED

TALKING.

AND THERE IS A "LET'S GET

REAL" WORK BOOK, AND THIS IS

GOOD FOR MARRIAGES.

GO TO cbn.com AND YOU CAN

GET THIS, THE WORK BOOK, AND

YOU CAN GET EVERYTHING.

PRAISE GOD.

I'M DONE.

GOD BLESS YOU.

PAT, YOU'RE TURN.

Pat: MY GOODNESS, WHAT

IS GREAT TESTIMONY.

TOMORROW WE'RE GOT A

SHOCKER.

MY PRODUCER SAID I'M NOT

SURE WE'RE GOING TO SHOW ANY

OF THIS ON TELEVISION.

YOU BETTER WARN PEOPLE.

THIS IS WHAT GOES ON IN

YALE.

I WENT TO YALE LAW SCHOOL.

THEY HAD NAKED PARTIES.

THEY HAVE LESSONS ON SEX

FROM THE MAIN PURVEYORS.

IT IS UNBELIEVABLE.

AND WE'LL HAVE IT ON

TOMORROW'S "THE 700 CLUB."