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Faith Nation: September 29, 2021

The battle over the nation's debt limit, with a government shutdown in the balance. And The Biden agenda in Jeopardy. The trillion dollar bipartisan infrastructure plan is up against trillions more in spending. And the battle for the ... Read Transcript


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- [Jenna] Tonight, down to the wire.

The battle of the nation's debt limit

with a government shutdown in the balance.

Plus, the Biden agenda,

the trillion dollarbipartisan infrastructure plan

up against trillions more in spending.

And battle for the commonwealth.

- Terry, I just can't understand

how you can just socomfortably lie to everybody.

And let's just be clear.- That's what you've been

doing all night, buddy.- You, you-

- [Jenna] How thegovernor's race in Virginia

sets the tone for the rest of the nation.

This as hundreds if notthousands of Americans

remain in Afghanistan.

- I believe the level ofdesperation is even worse now.

- [Jenna] All this and moretonight on "Faith Nation."

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- Countdown to the shutdown.

Can beltway lawmakers beat the clock

and keep the government running?

I'm John Jessup.

- Welcome to "FaithNation." I'm Jenna Browder.

30 hours and counting.

That is how long lawmakers have

before the US could facea government shutdown.

Current funding runs outat 11:59:59 tomorrow night.

- Lawmakers are workinglate into the night

to prevent a shutdown, tryingto find the best solution

that both parties can agree on.

- Yeah, complicating the process,

a second looming debt ceiling deadline.

Treasury Secretary JanetYellen says, come October 18th,

the US will hit its debt limit.

Democrats on the Hill vowingto not let that happen.

- For more on where things stand,

we now turn to Capitol HillCorrespondent Abigail Robertson.

Abigail, how likely is itthat a funding bill will pass

before the shutdown?

- Well, John, the good newsis that it's very likely.

The Senate will likely passa funding bill later tonight

or tomorrow morning, andthe House will follow suit

soon after that.

But as for the debt ceiling crisis,

Republicans do not wantto support Democrats

in raising the debt ceiling.

They want Democrats to goabout this on their own

through the budget reconciliation process.

But Majority Leader Chuck Schumer

says that that is not an option.

- Uncharted waters.

Individual senators could moveto delay and delay and delay.

It is very risky and couldwell lead us to default,

even if only one senatorwanted that to happen.

That's very possible.

So you can't do it this route.

Everyone who's studiedit knows it is risky.

- Now Schumer saidDemocrats will move forward

trying to raise the debtceiling on their own

and he asked Republicansto get out of the way.

But he didn't say how they will do this

if they don't use that budgetreconciliation process,

and White House Press Secretary Jen Psaki

also commented on this today,

pointing out that the debtceiling has been raised

with bipartisan supportalmost 80 times in history,

and she says that theadministration is very disappointed

that they don't havethat this time around.

John, Jenna.

- All right, Capitol Hill Correspondent

Abigail Robertson, thank you.

CBN News Chief Political Analyst

David Brody joins us now for more.

You know, David, we arecoming right down to the wire.

We've been here before and they've always,

you know, usually seemto get something passed

or some sort of resolution.

Do you think Democrats

are going to be able topull this off this time?

(David chuckles)

- Jenna, John, my head is exploding.

There's so much going on on Capitol Hill.

We haven't even talkedabout infrastructure

and reconciliation, the two big bills.

Look, yeah.

Do I think they'll get it done?

Yes.

What is that?

What do I mean by they'll get it done?

What is it at this point?

I'm talking about

I don't think there'llbe a government shutdown.

I mean, as Abby pointed out,they're gonna do something

and it'll probably bethis continuing resolution

for a few months.

That's what they always do.

They kick the can downthe road, if you will.

So I don't think thegovernment's gonna shut down.

The debt ceiling deal is awhole different ball of wax.

We can talk about thattill the cows come home.

But look, the problem is

you're not gonna getany Republican senators

to go along with astandalone debt ceiling vote.

So in other words, youneed 60 to raise it.

They're not gonna get 10 GOP senators.

So how are Democrats gonnapass the debt ceiling vote

without going through reconciliation,

which Chuck Schumer says he won't do.

So, you know what?

I don't know.

That's why I'm not a USsenator or a congressman.

And I'm happy about that,let me just confirm.

- Senator David Brodyhas a nice ring to it.

David, though, what doyou make of the argument

some are making that 90%of the debt was incurred

before President Biden was inoffice, under President Trump?

Do Republicans bear responsibilityto raising the ceiling

on the allowable amount of debt?

- You know, I mean,you can play that game,

and I call it a game,maybe it's not a game.

I mean, there's no doubt,going back to George W. Bush,

and Trump for sure,they raised money like,

raise money, excuse me, they spent money

like there was no tomorrow as well,

so they're guilty of it.

I think there's anargument to be made there.

Having said that, let's be clear.

The Democrats are aparty of tax and spend.

Don't take my word for it.Take their word for it.

That's what they say, tax and spend.

And so, you know, thatthat's what they want to do.

It's kind of comical becauseJoe Biden the other day

said about this $3.5 trillion (scoffs)

budget reconciliation bill,

he said, it's a $0 reconciliation bill.

Everybody's like "$0?"

Like yeah, because it'sall gonna be paid for.

Okay, yeah, and I'vegot a bridge in Brooklyn

I'd like to sell you as well.

(Jenna softly laughs)

- Yeah, there's no suchthing as a free lunch.

David, Republicans say Democratswill shoulder the blame

if this fails, pointing outthat they control the House,

the Senate and the White House.

Is that how the publicwill view it though?

- Yes, and just likeRepublicans got blamed

for the last shutdown when Trumpwas president, so for sure.

That's the way politics works.

And when Democrats control the levers,

they control the power.

When they control the power,they control the narrative,

and they ultimately will take blame

for what's happening herewith the public as well.

Sure thing.

- Yeah.

All right, CBN's David Brody.

Thank you so much, David.

- You bet.

- Well, to a state electionwith national implications.

The Virginia governor's raceis rounding the final bend

before Election Day.

Last night, the two menvying for the top job

met for their second and final debate.

Democrat Terry McAuliffe, whoformerly held the position,

and Republican GlennYoungkin went head to head,

battling on everythingfrom abortion to education,

and of course, the Trump factor.

CBN's Brody Carter is here now

with a look at last night's debate

and where the race stands now.

Brody, we're six weeks out

and it's looking like thisis a pretty close race.

- Well, it certainly is.

Early voting for Virginia'sgovernor began September 17th.

Recent polls give McAuliffea 3 1/2% lead over Youngkin.

Many political watchersclosely watching this race

for any indication ofhow voters might feel

as we approach next year's midterms.

- I just can't understand

how you can just socomfortably lie to everybody.

And let's just be clear.- That's what you've been

- doing all night, buddy.- You, you-

- [Brody] It's a political sparring match

between Democrat Terry McAuliffe,

who served as governor from 2014 to 2018,

and Republican hopeful Glenn Youngkin.

- He's a total wannabe Donald Trump.

- There's an over and under tonight

on how many times you'regonna say Donald Trump,

and it was 10 and youjust busted through it.

You're running against Glenn Youngkin.

- [Brody] Youngkin findshimself walking a fine line

after getting Donald Trump's endorsement

while also trying towin back suburban voters

who left the party duringTrump's tumultuous presidency.

- If Donald Trump runsfor president in 2024,

will you support him?

- Yeah, who knows who's gonna be running

for president in 2024,

in all candor.- If he's the nominee,

will you support him?- Who knows?

- [Brody] Blow after blow,the two drew political lines

on dozens of issues, includinghot topics in education,

mandatory vaccinations, and abortion.

- My opponent on the other hand

is the most extreme abortioncandidate in the country.

- Businesses are not gonna come to a state

where they're putting wallsup around their state.

He's against gay marriage.

He's against abortion.

- [Brody] PrudenceRobertson of the pro-life

Susan B. Anthony Listsees abortion as key,

especially with so manystates taking action

and the Supreme Court preparingto hear a related case

in its next term.

- Abortion should be the preeminent issue

because, when you think about it,

none of those other issues matter

if a person isn't giventhat first chance at life,

that right to live outside the womb.

- [Brody] Youngkin defendedhis pro-life stance,

omitting instances of rape

or if the baby threatensthe life of a mother.

He re-clarified his supportof a pain threshold bill

to protect babies 20weeks after conception.

- Well, if Terry wins, hewill do everything that he can

to enshrine Roe versusWade in the Constitution.

He stated that explicitly last night.

So if he does win this candidacy,

we will see abortion unbarred.

- Current polls show therace is now a toss-up.

Demographically, McAuliffehas a large advantage

in Northern Virginia and theEastern Tidewater region.

Youngkin runs a lead in Western Virginia,

and Richmond appears to be the area

with greatest political sway.

The candidates also debatedthe end of right to work,

border policies, creating jobs, racism,

and lowering the crime rate.

Other points of contentionsurrounded much more talk

about what to be expectedas the coming days draw near

to November 2nd.

John and Jenna, back to you.

- All right, Brody Carter, thank you.

And joining us now, Julia Manchester,

political reporter with The Hill,

who's been following this race closely.

Julia, welcome.

Great to have you with us this evening.

Let's start with some of thepolling Brody had mentioned.

Real Clear Politics has McAuliffeleading by three points.

In your estimate, do youthink last night's debate

moved the needle at allfor either candidate?

- Well, I think it'scertainly moved the needle

with their bases.

Look, I think you saw twothings happen last night.

You saw Terry McAuliffe very much trying

to drive this message home:Glenn Youngkin is Donald Trump

and that they're essentiallythe same candidate,

despite Donald Trump not running

for any public office this year.

And then you had Glenn Youngkin

very much trying to appeal to a broader,

I guess, group of voters.

I think you saw them bothtrying to appeal to their bases,

but at the same time, trying to appeal

to moderate voters in Virginia.

And we think those moderate voters,

the few swing voters thatare left in Virginia,

really could change thetide in this election.

We don't have any immediatedata out after that election;

however, it'll be interesting to see,

after the debate, excuse me,

but it'll be interesting tosee how it impacts the race.

- Julia, you of coursewere there last night

covering the debate.

There is a moment from last night,

a comment that McAuliffe made,

that's getting a lot of play.

McAuliffe said, "I don't think parents

should be telling schoolswhat they should teach."

Youngkin's campaign quickly produced

a new attack ad about that today.

Julia, how do you think McAuliffe's remark

about parents and schoolsplays with voters,

especially those criticalswing suburban voters?

- Well, I think this is a issue

that plays very wellwith the Republican base.

And a lot of theseconservative activist voters,

like you've seen in Virginia,

are very much being vocal about issues

like transgender issues in the classroom

and critical race theory.

You know, McAuliffeproduced a good sound bite

for Republicans and yousaw Republicans in Virginia

very much take advantage ofthat last night and today.

In terms of the swing voters,

we don't really know what issues

are going to stick with them yet

because, after that debate,

we're seeing both of these campaigns

push completely different messages

on completely different issues.

You have Governor Ralph Northamjust a couple of hours ago

giving a press conferenceabout Youngkin's,

what he said was misinformation

Youngkin was spreading about the vaccine.

And then you have the Youngkin campaign

very much focusing on thesecomments McAuliffe made.

So you have the Democratstalking about vaccine mandates

as well as abortion rights,and then you have Youngkin

very much focusing onthis issue of education.

So we know those are very important

to their respectivebases, but we don't know

what's going to tip thetide on the swing vote.

- All right, Julia Manchester,

political reporter with TheHill, we are out of time.

Thank you so much forbeing with us, Julia.

- Thank you.

- [Jenna] Coming up, the battleover abortion in America,

from Texas to Capitol Hill.

The latest on the fight for life

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- Welcome back.

The Supreme Court and its use

of the so-called shadow docket

faced criticism on Capitol Hill today.

On occasion, the highcourt will hand down orders

and summary decisions withouthearing oral arguments

by the way of that docket.

That was the case earlier thismonth, when the court decided

not to block a controversialabortion law in Texas

outlawing the procedure afterabout six weeks of pregnancy.

Today, some Democrats in theSenate Judiciary Committee

claimed the Supreme Courtused the shadow docket

to advance a pro-life political agenda.

- We now have two dangerousnew precedents to contend with.

First, with SB8, Texas has created a model

to undermine constitutional rights

by using bounty hunterenforcement schemes.

Second, the Supreme Court hasnow shown that it's willing

to allow even faciallyunconstitutional laws to take effect

when the laws align withcertain ideological preferences.

- With us now, Tony Perkins,

president of the Family Research Council.

Welcome back to "Faith Nation," Tony.

Republican member

- Thank you.- of the Senate

Judiciary Committee,Chuck Grassley of Iowa,

split from his Democratic counterparts,

saying that the court didsomething very ordinary

in the Texas decision.

The premise of today's hearing

was to examine the useof the shadow docket.

Critics say it appeared toundermine the credibility

of the Supreme Court overthe issue of abortion.

Tony, how do you see it?

- I find it very interestingto see Democratic senators

like Dick Durbincomplaining about the court

advancing a political agenda.

That's actually what we'vebeen complaining about

for decades, that thecourt has been advancing

a political agenda.

And here's what proves it.

Nancy Pelosi, after Texas lawwas allowed to go into effect

while the case is being adjudicated,

Nancy Pelosi says, "Well,I'm gonna call Congress

back to the Hill andwe're gonna have a vote

to codify Roe v. Wade into law."

That's what they voted on last Friday.

Now here's the kicker.

It's an admission that abortion on demand

was never the law of the land.

It was invented by the court.

And so now that we have

a constitutionalist majority on the court,

we're looking at this again.

So I just find this very interesting

that those that have usedthe court for so long

to do their legislating isnow, they're now complaining.

- Tony, the House recently passed

the Women's Health Protection Act

with overwhelming Democratic support.

A new article on FRCs blogsays the measure proves

some Democrats are okay with abortion

up until the moment of birth.

How does this bill do that?

- Well, that's just whatI was talking about.

That's the bill that NancyPelosi wanted to push.

It is Roe with an attitude.

What it actually does isit eliminates everything

that the states have doneover the last 50 years

to begin to take back thisterritory from the courts,

whether it's partial birth abortion bans,

whether it's parental consent,whether it's waiting periods,

whether it's ultrasound, and so much more

completely wiped out if thislaw were to go into effect.

Fortunately, it's not gonnaget through the Senate

in its current shape.

So I'm hopeful that we willsee the Senate minority,

the Republicans, hold the line on this.

The court will decide this next,

they're gonna have oralarguments in December.

We'll get a decision next summer.

And hopefully, the court will recognize

that the court interjecteditself back in 1973.

This should go back to the states,

and a majority of the states, I believe,

will stand on the side of life.

- Tony, earlier in our show,

we reported on theVirginia governor's race.

One issue that's becomeprominent in the election

is parents challenging graphic material

found in public school textbooks.

This is something I knowthat you've discussed a lot.

How much are parents making a difference

when it comes to this?

And if you can, in about

just a few seconds that we have left.

- They're making a huge difference.

Look, this is like a platoon

of mama bears descending upon the left

that's had the education of their children

in their clutches for years,and they're now dropping it.

I applaud what moms aredoing all across America.

Keep it up.

They are making a difference.

- All right, Tony Perkinswith Family Research Council.

Good to see you, Tony. Thank you.

- Thanks, Tony.

- Good to be with you.

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- Today, House lawmakers got their chance

to question top military officials

on the chaotic US withdrawalfrom Afghanistan last month.

Joint Chief Chairman General Mark Milley

told members of the HouseArmed Services Committee

now that the US forces are gone,

Al-Qaeda could reorganize in Afghanistan

as soon as early next spring.

- That halting admissioncomes even as some Americans

remain stuck in the country,unable to find a way out.

As CBN's Chris Mitchell reports,

although the United States hasn't revealed

how many Americans are stuck,

the effort to rescue them isn't over.

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at life inside Afghanistanunder Taliban rule:

arrest, abductions, and executions.

- I believe the level ofdesperation is even worse now

without the US troopsthere, without any exit,

and people are hiding at safehouses and hiding on the run.

The Taliban is actually, doorto door, doing executions,

where they go and grab people,

stuffing them in trunks of cars,

and driving them off to execution sites.

I can imagine theon-the-ground panic there

is even worse than it wasduring those evacuation days.

- [Chris] When the USannounced its pull-out

Chad Robichaux joined otherretired special forces members

to form SaveOurAllies.org.

He says they rescued morethan 12,000 US citizens

and Afghan allies during the chaotic weeks

before the US military's final flight out.

- The good news is

is that we're still beingsuccessful with evacuations,

not in the big numbers that we were.

We're still getting 100to 200 people out per day.

- [Chris] This type of rescueoperation is nothing new

to Dave Eubank of the Free Burma Rangers.

- We're trying to help peopleget out any way we can.

And I'm really gratefulto the Tajik government

that, right now, has avery humanitarian look

of how can we help people.

- The White House and State Department

put the number of US citizensleft behind to about 100.

Robichaux says the math doesn't add up.

- [Chad] The truth isit's not a few hundred.

My guess is at least 5,000.

- [Chris] Whatever the number,US citizens are in danger.

- They are hunting down people right now,

trying to get all the names

of anyone they perceive as an enemy.

- They're scared. Theydon't know what to do.

They feel abandoned by our country

that has a responsibility to help them.

- [Chris] Robichaux and Eubanksay leaving no one behind

is an American value.

- The truth is it doesn'tmatter if it's 5,000.

It doesn't matter if it's 200.

It doesn't matter if it's one.

Because from where Icome from as an American,

especially in the specialoperations community,

if one American is behind enemy lines,

if one American's life is in danger,

we will use every bit ofmilitary force and strength

and squash the earth around that person

to rescue that person.

- [Chris] He fears the Bidenadministration, news media,

and much of the world are moving on.

For Afghan women, life got a lot worse

after this Taliban decree:

All widows under the age of 35

whose husbands were killedin the previous regime,

if they are still widowed,will marry the Mujahideen

of the Islamic Emirate.

- We have 20 million women

that are immediatelydeclared as sex slaves.

The amount of trafficking,sex trafficking,

that's gonna happen out of Afghanistan.

- [Chris] Article 2: Allpatriotic and Muslim parents

of Afghanistan are calledupon to give your daughters

over the age of 18 to begiven to their husbands

in order to maintain Islamic ethics.

- [Dave] Actually,almost every day, Chris,

I have started to cry

because I thought of these little girls

left in the hands of the Taliban,

and that's the biggest thing.

- [Chris] And Article 3:

All women working in government offices

are now ordered to stay in their homes.

- The murder and persecution of Christians

and all that stuff is happening right now,

and it seems like not only the White House

and the mainstream media,

but their entire internationalcommunity wants to be silent.

- [Chris] Yet the internationalcommunity may soon decide

if the Taliban will beAfghanistan's recognized government.

The Taliban just nominated an ambassador

to represent them at the UN.

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